Leaders’ debate tonight

Written By: - Date published: 2:46 pm, November 16th, 2011 - 84 comments
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The “minor” parties leaders’ debate is tonight at 7pm on TV1.

Will they manage a format that allows the leaders to actually debate this time?

The main winner will be Winston Peters.  Not only does he get a great public platform (hard to come by for NZF this election), but he will also revel in making the most of Key’s apparent teapot tape insult to the elderly.

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  1. the sprout 1
    16 November 2011 at 2:58 pm

    my guess is that tv3 will want to release the teapot transcript tonight before Peters does on the tv1 debate

    • Craig Glen Eden 1.1
      16 November 2011 at 3:16 pm

      Thank goodness Key isnt on it he might only last 2 minutes and get all huffy and leave.

  2. DyanT 2
    16 November 2011 at 5:20 pm

    “Key’s apparent teapot tape insult to the elderly.”

    I’m ‘elderly’ and I was more offended by the media and blogs comments about Don Brash’s age that I am about what Key “might” have said.
    It might be a bit incomprehensible to some of you young blokes; but there are a lot of over 60’s who still have their marbles intact and can use them with discernment and wisdom.
    By the way, I would not vote for Mr Peters even if he was the last man standing.

    • Tiger Mountain 2.1
      16 November 2011 at 6:00 pm

      Heh, but would you vote for ShonKey? is a more salient point.

      I agree about the age thing though DT. It is Don Brashe’s ideology I am concerned with not his age. We all handle our mortality in different ways, many via denial probably. I am in the 50 plus group and know some very onto it people in their 60s, 70s and 80s.

      Some people are old and stuffed in their 20s. The longer lasters keep thinking and doing stuff. The thing is, as a leftie, it is about the kind of ‘stuff’ they are doing.

    • KJT 2.2
      16 November 2011 at 6:03 pm

      Nah. Brash was senile at 20.

      The last time his mind was open.

      Listening to Friedman.

  3. sopa 3
    16 November 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Damn .. my TV is down. I might sleep better ..

  4. William Joyce 4
    16 November 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Oh, dear god! Claire Robinson is on the debate again!
    Taking bets on how many minutes until she states something stupid.

    • fender 4.1
      16 November 2011 at 7:31 pm

      Yes she probably had a cup of tea with Brash earlier, she will be backing ACT if shes wearing her usual National hat.

  5. Carol 5
    16 November 2011 at 7:09 pm

    is there a twitter stream of tweets from the public?

  6. Carol 6
    16 November 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Hone & Winston, quick out of the blocks with their key points. Sharp – to the point.

  7. Blighty 7
    16 November 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Brash looks pretty bad.

    I get annoyed when Mana and the Maori Party say that only 4% of Maori live to 65. That’s not true. It may be that only 4% of Maori are 65 or over but the odds of a Maori man living to 65 is 71% and a Maori woman 80%. It’s less than the general population but it’s not 4%

    • Lanthanide 7.1
      16 November 2011 at 7:40 pm

      Thanks blighty, that number sounded extremely suspicious and I wondered how it could possibly be true.

    • weka 7.2
      16 November 2011 at 8:39 pm

      I didn’t follow your figures, but didn’t Turia say 4% of Maori, Pacific Islanders and poor people?

      • Lanthanide 7.2.1
        16 November 2011 at 9:56 pm

        No, she was specifically saying 4% of Maori.

        She said that her policy for age 60 retirement would apply to Maori, Pacific Islanders and “poor people”.

        The 4% figure really means that for every 100 maori who are alive today, 4 of those maori will be aged 65 or over. That is not the same as saying that only 4% of maori who are born this year can expect to live to 65, as Turia portrayed it.

        Another way to put it: the average age of the Maori population is skewed significantly towards the young end of the spectrum, but that’s got more to do with the size of the families than it has to do with the life expectancy of Maori.

  8. Sookie 8
    16 November 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Russel’s not getting much of a go. That old bugger Winston is impressing me the most so far, he has always amused me, except in 1996 of course.

    • lprent 8.1
      16 November 2011 at 7:53 pm

      Yeah, the old bugger will pick up votes.

      Norman is better than I remember. Hone makes points but isn’t shining. Turia is talking to her audience as far as I can see.

      Brash is a fool on the climate change science.

      Dunne is kind of hilarious the way he tries to squirm into the centre between everyone else. Winston is naturally there

      • Sookie 8.1.1
        16 November 2011 at 8:04 pm

        LOL, Winston slapping down that little pipsqueak from Breakfast telly. This would be sooooo boring without him. Russel’s getting better, calm and collected but still laughing at Brash confusing methane with C02. Bloody old fossil.

    • millsy 8.2
      16 November 2011 at 10:12 pm

      He’s heading back to Parliament. Which is a good thing.

      Key is going to be shitting himself. He might still be able to govern alone, but the thought of Winston waiting in the debating chamber for him is going to unsettle him greatly.

  9. kriswgtn 9
    16 November 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Its a tie between Hone & Winston…

    Brash is a complete fukin idiot

    Dunne- well his hair looks the same

    Tariana> hahhaha tryin to save her ass

    Norman-Nah idiot dont like him- go home to Oz

    Hone- articulate and real and honest

    Winston– well He is the reason I am watching

    My party vote Hone
    My other vote== Labour

    MMP for life

  10. r0b 10
    16 November 2011 at 7:59 pm

    I don’t want Winston back in parliament. But – damn – he is owning this debate. All the best lines.

    • Carol 10.1
      16 November 2011 at 8:02 pm

      And leaked more tape info – a helping hand for Brash when he leaves politics? Or is that speculation?

    • KJT 10.2
      16 November 2011 at 8:03 pm

      What’s wrong with Winston. A comparatively honest politician.

      • r0b 10.2.1
        16 November 2011 at 8:06 pm

        My main issue with him is that I’m not fond of his undertone of racist dog whistling.

        • Jackal 10.2.1.1
          16 November 2011 at 8:17 pm

          He’s just playing to his audience as well. Wouldn’t it be great if we could pick a choose different parts and mash them together into a politician that really speaks for the people.

        • KJT 10.2.1.2
          16 November 2011 at 8:33 pm

          Is it really racist to argue against immigration policies designed to keep wages down and avoid the costs of training New Zealanders.

          • coolas 10.2.1.2.1
            16 November 2011 at 8:46 pm

            At one point Winston said ‘we’ meaning we Maori which I rare for him. Usually he says ‘them’.

  11. RobM 11
    16 November 2011 at 8:03 pm

    From Peters last comment it would appear John and John have a plum job lined up for Brash. It’s just not leader of the ACT party.

    Brash looked a little sheepish.

  12. r0b 12
    16 November 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Oh – Peters backing down from his pledge not to work with either major party. Interesting.

    • lprent 12.1
      16 November 2011 at 8:09 pm

      Hone did the best on MMP. More Maori in Parliament

    • LynW 12.2
      16 November 2011 at 8:10 pm

      backing down or miss quoted?

      • r0b 12.2.1
        16 November 2011 at 8:11 pm

        I’ll have to go back and read the original again – but I’m pretty sure he’s backing down.

        Update: Yeah here’s what he said – pretty definite.

        • ianmac 12.2.1.1
          16 November 2011 at 9:00 pm

          Tracey Watkins skimmed over the position in her column. (Funny that?)
          He said he would not be in Coalition.
          He said he would vote with the good stuff.
          He would vote against the bad stuff.
          Might be a good thing because to guarantee supply or be in coalition means you must back the main party. Perhaps NZF is a step towards not just voting out of party loyalty.

    • Carol 12.3
      16 November 2011 at 8:11 pm

      Was he differentiating between a full coalition and some support agreement, or just talking of working with parties on an issue by issue basis. He was a bit vague.

      • LynW 12.3.1
        16 November 2011 at 8:17 pm

        Will always have respect for him hanging in there re the Wine Box Enquiry long before the rest of the World’s and NZ’s dodgy finance dealings were exposed. Just hard to trust after his dodgy alliances!

  13. Blighty 13
    16 November 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Peter Dunne doesn’t understand the MMP referenda.

    He said he would vote for MMP this election but if there is a run off in 2014 he would vote for STV.

    Umm…. if there is a run-off in 2014 it will be between MMP and whatever the most favoured alternative is – STV won’t necessarily be an option.

    And why would he change from supporting MMP against all comers including STV in 2011 and then vote for STV over MMP in 2014 if it was the alternative?

    If Dunne favours MMP he would surely vote MMP both times. If he favours STV, vote for change and STV both times.

    • Lanthanide 13.1
      16 November 2011 at 10:29 pm

      Ta Blighty, I hadn’t actually thought about that but you are of course right.

      I guess Dunne was imaging it would be FPP vs STV, like the referendum in 1993 was FPP vs MMP.

  14. marty mars 14
    16 November 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Māori party will not work in coalition with act says tariana

    • r0b 14.1
      16 November 2011 at 8:26 pm

      Yeah but it wasn’t what she meant, alas.

      • marty mars 14.1.1
        16 November 2011 at 8:33 pm

        I must have missed it – what does she mean r0b

        • r0b 14.1.1.1
          16 November 2011 at 8:37 pm

          She’s not ruling out working with National while they also work with ACT. She’s only ruling out some direct Maori / ACT coalition agreement, which is never going to happen anyway. So in effect she’s ruling out nothing at all.

        • The Voice of Reason 14.1.1.2
          16 November 2011 at 8:39 pm

          She appears to believe that she is not in coalition with ACT now, so presumably it means that being in Government together is not the same thing, technically, as a formal coalition.

          • Lanthanide 14.1.1.2.1
            16 November 2011 at 10:31 pm

            Note how she said that they vote against National more often than they vote with them.

            Why the fuck are they in coalition?

            • Rodel 14.1.1.2.1.1
              16 November 2011 at 10:52 pm

              Act is in bed with National… Tariana & co are also in bed with National…Sort of a platonic Clayton’s menage a trois?

  15. lprent 15
    16 November 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Turia was great in getting out how coalitions work. Norman clear….

  16. Carol 16
    16 November 2011 at 8:26 pm

    OK. Russel says Greens would talk to Labour first, not the party with most votes.

  17. Jackal 17
    16 November 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Claire Robinson asks: Would you negotiate with the party that has the most votes?

    Peter Dunne: Yes! It will be a John Key led government
    Tariana Turia: The people have given the Maori party the blessing to go with National
    Russell Norman: Depends on outcome but prefers Labour
    Hone Harawira: Can’t be in coalition with Labour or National who kick the poor
    Winston Peters: It’s bad to have one party hold the balance of power.

    • Anne 17.1
      16 November 2011 at 8:49 pm

      It was Tracy Watkins. Didn’t get all the answers she was hoping for either.

      • Lanthanide 17.1.1
        16 November 2011 at 10:26 pm

        Corin Dan had the best questions. Tracy’s questions were blah, and the Maori guy’s questions seemed pretty incomprehensible because no one actually answered what he specifically asked.

      • Jackal 17.1.2
        16 November 2011 at 10:52 pm

        Sorry about that Anne, should have paid more attention. Noticed I didn’t even list what Brash said either… gone before bed time.

  18. lprent 18
    16 November 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Don Brash was the clear loser.

  19. Anne 19
    16 November 2011 at 8:45 pm

    What the hell. Jon Johannsen’s last comment was to the effect that… Labour was mentioned only once during the debate and that shows “how far out of the box they are”.

    Naturally the Nact govt is going to get the most mention because they’re calling the shots. Naturally the PM of the day is going to be mentioned because he leads that govt. Add to that, a significant portion of the debate was made over to the Teapot Tapes which had nothing to do with Labour.

    I find that a stupid thing to say. Thought JJ was better than that.

    • ianmac 19.1
      16 November 2011 at 9:03 pm

      Yes. Mentioning only a few times might mean we know what they are offering.
      The Government might not be clear so we might be looking at them harder.

  20. Olwyn 20
    16 November 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I thought it was a toss up between Hone & Winston. And I was pissed off with the Johannsen guy for saying at the end that that Labour only got a mention during the coalition section, which showed how far out the picture they were, or some such. Maybe I misheard him, but if I heard him correctly, it seemed a bit rich, given that two of the six would rather work with Labour, two did not commit themselves, and two were committed to Nation. And the main reason National got mentioned was because its tea party controversy was pertinent to two of the small party leaders.

    • coolas 20.1
      16 November 2011 at 8:54 pm

      Yep I heard/inferred the same comment – Labour hardly mentioned so they’re irrelevant – what the hell does he mean? Tosser. Who’s he trying to please?

      • Anne 20.1.1
        16 November 2011 at 9:10 pm

        I’ve noticed on Q&A recently that he has started to waffle a lot… trying to avoid straight answers. He used to be reasonable with his analysis. I think somebody’s got to him. Peculiar.

  21. Tiger Mountain 21
    16 November 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Body language and cut through went to Hone and Winston. The others looked tired and predictable. Though Tari and Russell sparked up several times. There is a new constituency out there that actually (rather that “akshully”) likes the rather anemic but backed up by facts Green approach,Winston dropped the ball at the end, as he would, on one matter. Hone will have scored some new fans.

    Overall for certain swingers: Hone and Winston.

    • Lanthanide 21.1
      16 November 2011 at 10:24 pm

      Which is not a surprising outcome, of course. Those parties with the lowest limelight are the ones that gain the most, a la Peter Dunne turning the worm in 2002.

      Hone, when the media are actually giving him a chance, always comes across as passionate and thoughtful and not a loony, whether you agree with his policies or not. I think it’s a pity he bagged Turia so much earlier on but pretty much laid off in the 2nd half.

  22. the sprout 22
    16 November 2011 at 10:14 pm

    1st WINSTON

    2nd HONE

    3rd NORMAN

    a perfect result, short of winston or hone dropping the p bomb

  23. Jackal 23
    16 November 2011 at 10:42 pm

    What’s up with David Farrar’s twitter comment the debate broadcast?

    Don, Tariana, Russell, Hone all actually named a top economic policy Winston and Peter just waffled

    Were they trawling twitter for peoples comments? Farrar then gloats:

    Laughing that my tweet was read out on #onenews. Winston will be annoyed 🙂

    I think Winston Peters won.

  24. kriswgtn 24
    16 November 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Watching the debate tonite- 1 of my flatties remarked shes gonna vote for the first time in her life
    Shes 41 lol

    me and bf were gobsmacked hahahah

  25. rosy 25
    16 November 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Brash: It’s rich countries which basically look after the environment, not poor countries. We want to therefore increase the wealth of the country.

    It’s the rich countries with strong planning regulations and environmental controls, and who have a free press and freedom to protest who look after the environment. Not poor countries who are desperate for foreign capital and relax environmental controls, planning and employment regulations and shut down criticism so foreign investors will build factories to conditions that would not be allowed in their home countries.

    There Don FIFY.

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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    2 days ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
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    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    4 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    5 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    4 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
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    5 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    5 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
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    5 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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    5 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
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    1 week ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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