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Lose yourself in the music

Written By: - Date published: 11:32 am, September 11th, 2016 - 25 comments
Categories: colin craig, national - Tags: , , , ,

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy, there’s vomit on his sweater already, mom’s spaghetti… and Joyce hasn’t even gone in to court to defend National from their theft of Eminem’s music with his ‘pretty legal’ defence.

The court date’s been set down for next May, which should be a fun pre-election distraction.

Of course National might be happier talking about that than housing…

In other court news, I’ve seen much enjoyment in Open Mike etc of Jordan Williams suing Colin Craig for ‘Dirty Politics’ smears.  I particularly liked the comment (can’t find again to attribute sorry) of: if only there was some organisation that was so concerned about waste of public money that could tell us how much a 5 week civil jury trial costs and complain about it…

Craig threatens to sue at the drop of a hat, so it’s pleasing to see him get some of his own medicine, but I notice that Williams’ evidence included a point of saying that Craig hadn’t followed through on his threat to sue Williams over the original allegations, and that must be significant (instead Craig is suing him for unauthorised use of his poems…).

The point about suing for some things and not others could equally apply to Dirty Politic-er Williams, who hasn’t sued Nicky Hager over his entire book of things Williams has done – is that admitting liability over that?  Instead he’s trusting so-called ‘conspiracy theorist’ Hager so much he’s calling Hager as a witness in this case! (as well as fellow Dirty-Politic-er Carrick Graham, and Matthew Hooton and Garth McVicar…)

Of course after Hager’s book one must wonder if Williams has a reputation that can be destroyed and sued over…

25 comments on “Lose yourself in the music ”

  1. Chris 1

    Hooton being called is a good reminder of how embroiled he is in everything Hager exposed. But no doubt RNZ will again obliviously air his commentary on the Monday morning as if he’s got nothing to do with it. Is interesting how RNZ has always been happy to have Hooton provide commentary on filth he’s so much a part of.

  2. Bearded Git 2

    I doubt Hooton is giving evidence willingly; it can do nothing for his reputation.

    On the other hand he would not have wanted to be subpoena’d and so be seen to be forced to appear against his own will, which would have been worse.

  3. james 3

    If you think the Eninimem case will be pre-election fun – you will love Andrew Littles court case for defamation.

    4 or 5 weeks of him being in the news for taken to court – great entertainment.

    He will look like such a winner

    • McFlock 3.1

      when he wins…

        • framu

          Point out the defamation. Quote it

          • James

            You didnt say Please.

            But – I dont have to. They took professional advise and are backing it with their $$$$

            And lets face it – the bush lawyers on here are hardly going to look at any comment subjectively.

            Now – Im sure you think you know everything, and that you are very smart and clever – but unless you have all the information, you really cannot make a comment – so lets leave it for the big boys in court.

            But – anyone that thinks Little was smart in this is delusional.

            • Leftie

              You couldn’t answer the question James.

              Little knows exactly what he is doing, and is not afraid to speak up and stand his ground.

              • James

                Yeah – thats it – but I guess you guys all know more than their very expensive and professional legal council.

                Its going to look great for big brave Andy in court in election year.

                Comrades will rise up behind him – watching him in court each evening in the news – the voters will flock to the left after seeing him in the dock they will become believers – Andy is our man – its a stroke of brilliance.

                Hell – his preferred PM steaks could even make double figures after this.

                • Leftie

                  What an idiotic immature comment you have made James.

                  Andrew Little is a lawyer, he’s well versed in the law.

    • b waghorn 3.2

      And that is the only reason that those nat cronies the hagamans have taken him to court, to try and keep the gravy train running in their direction.

  4. McFlock 4

    Question: if the nats lose or settle, doesn’t that count as an election expense, including the legal fees?

    So they’ll have to update their election returns?

    • dukeofurl 4.1

      No its doesnt count as election expense ( lots of expenses like polling etc arent counted either)
      Knowing how Joyce does ‘election expenses’ – he deliberately spent taxpayers money without accounting for GST so as to make it go further in the 2005 election- Its likely the whole production costs of their ads were ‘structured’ to avoid being included, maybe they were done outside the ‘election period’
      A hint is in how Key gives the date of election long in advance so as they can spend up outside the defined election spending period.

    • Bob 4.2

      “Question: if the nats lose or settle, doesn’t that count as an election expense, including the legal fees?”
      National won’t have to pay a cent, they licensed it through BeatBox Music who have indemnification on the tracks they license.

    • James 4.3

      and if Andrew little loses – will he have to sell his house – or will it be a whip around with all the MP’s who support him on this?

  5. Enough is Enough 5

    It will probably be playing out at the same time as the leader of the opposition is in court defending himself against defamation claims.

    • dukeofurl 5.1

      Wont happen . Remeber how Collins went to court to try and get Little to apologise. Ended up with her apologising as well as Little doing a ‘non apology’

      “the leak of the email Ms Boag sent to the minister and forwarded on her instructions as the responsible minister to the chairman and chief executive of ACC raised an issue of serious public concern, and that Messrs Mallard and Little were entitled to question who was responsible for that leak”.

      So they were vindicated by Collins defamation acation!

      Earl Hagaman has a history of running away from Court actions. Discovery might be something they would prefer to go away with another ‘non apology’

      • Chuck 5.1.1

        “Wont happen” I will think Andrew Little will be very happy to hear you say that dukeofurl!

        Shame the AG report concluded the process was correctly followed in awarding the contract to the Scenic Hotel Group. And before anyone says ahhh but the AG had no ability to talk with the Island nation in question…Little knew this when he demanded the AG investigate.

        “Stinks to high heaven” might just be Little’s pants come 2017.

        It could end up settled on the doorsteps of the court…but not before Labour and Andrew Little will of had to commit already stretched resources to putting up a defense.

        Watching Jacinda’s dad as a witness against Andrew Little, will be worth spending a day in the galleries.

        • Gangnam Style

          “Shame the AG report concluded the process was correctly followed in awarding the contract to the Scenic Hotel Group.” Liar, it said no such thing, they admitted they couldn’t investigate it because out of jurisdiction, liar.

          • Chuck

            “Shame the AG report concluded the process was correctly followed in awarding the contract to the Scenic Hotel Group.”

            “Liar, it said no such thing, they admitted they couldn’t investigate it because out of jurisdiction, liar.”

            Read the report you twit…and I also commented on the jurisdiction bit above (Little knew the AG report could only comment on the NZ side of things).

  6. Enough is Enough 6

    That is kind of subtle point.

    Do you really think the National machine and Crosby Textor are going to allow court case to distract them from the campaign.

    Natioanl has deep pockets. They will pay this off-

    • dukeofurl 6.1

      Trouble is it may the the company that ‘made’ the sound-alike music that is running the case in Nationals name ( a common situation for all sorts of court cases) as they have a whole business built on cheaper generic versions of well known songs.
      National will be legally prevented from saying anything, but a 5 week hearing wont come cheap but there is a lot at stake.
      The other end is that Mathers case is being run by his music publishers Eight Mile Style.
      This was similar

      “Eminem’s music publishing company said it is not possible to simply alter music to escape an infringement because the company owns rights to derivatives.”

    • Anno1701 6.2

      “Natioanl has deep pockets” (sp)

      not as deep as MR Mathers they dont….

      • dukeofurl 6.2.1

        Mathers case is being run by his publisher Eight Mile Style who have hundreds of songs from different artists under management. The collection of royalties is done by the Hard ass dudes at Kobalt

        No strangers to legal battles, Em’s Eight Mile Style had won a few cases dating back to the mid-2000’s.

        “This isn’t the first time Eight Mile Style has taken on a tech giant:
        Apple Inc. reached an out-of-court settlement with the publisher in 2005 after using Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” in an iPod commercial without permission.
        Audi agreed to a settlement in 2011 after using a “Lose Yourself” sound-alike song in a European promotional clip. (Detroit Free Press)”

        The Facebook case seems to have been settled ( probably by paying royalties)

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