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Mike Hosking reckons: Minimum wage increase will be terrible for everyone

Written By: - Date published: 9:55 am, April 9th, 2018 - 159 comments
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Like an obnoxious uncle who has drunk too much at Christmas Mike Hosking continues to loudly broadcast his reckons on all the things that are terrible with this country and with this Government. Like how they and Auckland Council want to stop him driving his maserati and will force him in the near future to live in an apartment with no windows and (gasp) no parking spaces for his cars. This is personal for him. There is no way he will let the Government take his car keys from him while he still draws breath.

He has lots of other reckons. His qualification for having all these reckons and saying them loudly is that he is a rich white male and so of course his reckons should all be listened to because they are right reckons.

And his basic reckon is that being rich is good and being poor is for losers.  This is why he is such a strong supporter of the free market.  It delivers the perfect result, at least as far as he is concerned.

Unsurprisingly he thinks that putting up the minimum wage is a very bad thing. In his latest reckons he said this:

Costs are market-driven, market and demand. The prices for something are based, or should be, on what the market can bear.

The Government coming in over the top of that equation and arbitrarily handing out instruction disrupts the markets. It brings an artificiality into it that the market might not be able to bear, and if it can’t, the only loser is the person out of work. Or worse, the owner out of business.

Further, the more cost you put into the market, the more inflationary it is. The higher the tax on petrol, the more literally everything costs because everything has a transport component to it.

And the more inflation you have, the higher interest rates go. And interest rates affect borrowing, both domestically for things like housing, and commercially for things like business.

Take that poor people.  The only reason you can’t afford to buy or even rent a house is because you took that last minimum wage increase.  It is ALL YOUR FAULT.

I don’t know why he just go full hog and advocate for no minimum wage and pure free market. Sure our grandmothers will then have to engage as slave labour so that we can compete with the third world but at least Hosking’s coffee will be cheaper. And the piece of information he does not seem to understand is that if the minimum wage goes up, and get ready because this is really significant, POOR PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO BUY MORE COFFEE.  Why is it that poor people do not seem to enter into Hosking’s calculations except when they are supplying him with something.

But don’t take my word for it.  After all I am a compromised left wing hack.  But Treasury seems to think the same.  And Branko Martinec in the Spinoff recently read the research into the subject and came up with these comments:

In fact, the consensus among researchers has in recent decades shifted away from the once-thought conventional wisdom that a high minimum wage leads to closures and unemployment. The Ben Hurof these studies was completed in 2014 by two researchers who pored over more than 200 English-language scholarly and policy papers about the minimum wage, mostly published since 2000. They determined that “moderate increases in the minimum wage are a useful means of raising wages in the lower part of the wage distribution that has little or no effect on employment and hours”.

More than 600 economists have signed on to a statement that says “increases in the minimum wage have had little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers, even during times of weakness in the labour market.” Even those you wouldn’t expect to endorse it have. The International Monetary Fund called for the US to raise its minimum wage in 2014. The same year, despite its original warnings in 1999, the Economist declared that “no-one who has studied the effects of Britain’s minimum wage now thinks it has raised unemployment,” and that partly because of this, “The Economist has changed its mind.”

Does that mean the minimum wage has no impact whatsoever on employment? Of course not; many studies show there is usually a small impact, typically on young jobseekers. There is also evidence that employers are responding to wage increases with increased automation. But employers are turning to automation regardless of how high the wage is, because it’s always going to be cheaper to hire an unthinking, unfeeling, tireless machine over a human being – even white-collar jobs are under threat.

A higher minimum wage doesn’t have to be a job- or economy-killer. It can and has been rolled out in numerous locations with none of the cataclysmic results that minimum wage opponents have been warning about for literally 80 years. If the sky hasn’t fallen yet, it probably isn’t going to.

So who are you going to believe?  Someone who thinks the Government wants to take all of our cars away?  Or scores of International academics and researchers including the IMF and the Economist and Treasury officials.

To those on the minimum wage.  Enjoy the increase.  You deserve it.

159 comments on “Mike Hosking reckons: Minimum wage increase will be terrible for everyone”

  1. Baba Yaga 1

    “A higher minimum wage doesn’t have to be a job- or economy-killer. ”

    Doesn’t HAVE to be, no. But certainly can be.

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/vital-teacher-aide-hours-may-be-cut-due-to-minimum-wage-rise/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/02/03/proof-perfect-that-the-minimum-wage-costs-jobs/#30715e88771e

    http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/minimum-wage-rise-will-cost-jobs-say-experts-20170606-gwlo3n

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/07/02/las-minimum-wage-rises-yes-this-really-will-cost-jobs/#7433fe4b41f4

    Perhaps those researchers who pored over “scholarly and policy papers about the minimum wage” should get off their backsides and actually talk to employers and find out what has really happened.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.1

      The only job killers are the bludgers at the top – like Hosking. They’re a dead-weight loss to the economy.

      • JohnSelway 1.1.1

        Being a highly paid broadcaster doesn’t make him a bludger.

        Doesn’t make him any less of a dick either.

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1

          Being a highly paid broadcaster doesn’t make him a bludger.

          Yeah, actually, it does as he’s being paid far more than he’s worth.

          The problem of the rich goes beyond issues of how they get their money, to how they spend it. Their massive spending on luxuries distorts economies, diverting producers from providing goods and services for the more needy. It’s a waste of labour and scarce resources. In some cases, it makes things worse for those on low incomes, for example, by driving up house prices beyond their reach.

          Quote from Why we can’t afford the rich

          • dukeofurl 1.1.1.1.1

            He doesnt think workers should get 4 weeks holiday yet himsealf gets 8 weeks plus.

            His on air time is 2 hrs per day, maybe another 2 hrs prep but he has multiple producers who do all the slog. Then there are others who produce and read out news segments.

          • Gosman 1.1.1.1.2

            His employers obviously don’t think he is being paid too much.

            • dukeofurl 1.1.1.1.2.1

              Well hes surely paid a lot more than his competitors at RNZ who have higher ratings.
              His real benefit is the advertisers like him and are willing to pay extra to play their ads on his segment.
              It cant be the numbers of listeners he has.

              • Gosman

                Yes . Can you think why that might be? I’ll give you a clue. One of those Employers doesn’t get private funding.

                • dukeofurl

                  Ask Fletchers about paying huge money to a ‘top performer’ turned out.

                  What economic model are you referencing that says paying top dollar means top performance ?

                  Cant have being getting enough as his wife has had to ‘go back to work’, but not to worry as she was clearly the best of ‘all the other applicants’

                  • Tuppence Shrewsbury

                    We could ask the same of government departments, they pay top dollar without even asking for top performance

            • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1.2.2

              It’s not about what his employers think. It’s about economics and economically he’s paid too much. Anything more than enough to have a reasonable living standard is too much and is unsustainable.

          • JohnSelway 1.1.1.1.3

            “Yeah, actually, it does as he’s being paid far more than he’s worth.”

            I think he is a cock but it isn’t mine or your business as to what his employer feel he is worth so no, earning a salary doesn’t make one a bludger

            • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1.3.1

              Well, that’s just it – yes it is as we’re the ones coughing up the money to pay him.

          • Babayaga 1.1.1.1.4

            You don’t get to determine what anyone else is worth. That’s up to his employers, and how they rate his performance. It must suck to be so bitter. How does it feel?

            • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1.4.1

              You don’t get to determine what anyone else is worth.

              In a functional society there would be no employers and everyone would have a say.

              Things is, we don’t have a functional society. We have one designed around theft and dictatorship.

              It must suck to be so bitter.

              It must suck too be so stupid that you can only use ad hominems because you lack any argument.

              • Babayaga

                No employers? Not even the state?s. Perhaps you have a working nation in mind that you can point us to where this loopy idea of yours actually works.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Typical RWNJ – demand a working example of a new idea so as to try and shut down the new idea.

                  So bloody stupid.

                  • Baba Yaga

                    So its a new idea, meaning you have no way of knowing whether it will work or not. Yet you describe this hypothetical, untried system as ‘functional’.

              • Tricledrown

                DTB no employers you are a Fringe fanatic right up their with David Seymour.
                So where on earth has this utopian dream ever worked answer nowhere!
                Harnessing capitalism to work for the majority is the only pragmatic solution.
                You cannot undo nature’s survival instinct of competing.
                It’s built into our DNA, your competing with your outlying utopian idea thinking how many people are going to follow, less than 0.01% are interested in your pure Communist ideology.
                Why because it doesn’t work never will
                Because of Human “Nature”, Greed power selfishness cannot be wiped out.
                Hence all communist states end up being serfdoms the very thing they you claim you are trying to overcome!

                • Draco T Bastard

                  So where on earth has this utopian dream ever worked answer nowhere!

                  It certainly won’t work if we don’t try it.

                  Harnessing capitalism to work for the majority is the only pragmatic solution.

                  Always failing isn’t what I’d call pragmatic. Being pragmatic is doing what’s possible and capitalism is obviously, from 5000 years of experience, impossible.

                  It’s built into our DNA

                  1. No it’s not.
                  2. No amount of screeching it in our nature is going to change reality to suit the delusion that is capitalism.

                  Because of Human “Nature”, Greed power selfishness cannot be wiped out.

                  Yeah, actually, it can. There are examples of successful and sustainable societies where greed and selfishness were not accepted (Debt: The first 5000 years by David Graeber).

                  Hence all communist states end up being serfdoms the very thing they you claim you are trying to overcome!

                  This is what’s happened but it’s not written in stone that it must happen.

                • Anno1604

                  “Harnessing capitalism to work for the majority is the only pragmatic solution”

                  Its mildly better than the feudalism it replaced, other than that capatilisms superiority to any other economic/societal system is speculative really

        • Chris 1.1.1.2

          It does make him a bludger if he’s unconsiounably overpaid.

          • dukeofurl 1.1.1.2.1

            He has never in his life ‘built an audience’

            Paul Holmes was there from the beginning when news talk ZB was created, and the audience that existed was handed over to ‘The Hoick’

            he did the same for the evening TV show.
            When The Hoick was on Radio NZ, the audience was there before and after he left.

            Yes the The Hoick has the the gift of the gab, and those people are often rewarded handsomely, but hes never started from scratch and ‘made a show’.

            His real talent is to Kiss Up and Kick Down…….so…difficult.

        • barry 1.1.1.3

          He is a bludger because he expects the poor to subsidise his lifestyle.
          He expects the barista to go without so he can have a cheap coffee.
          He expects the cleaner to go without so his employer can pay him more.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2

      I see your Treasury Department, IMF, and peer-review, and raise you three opinion pieces that I agree with.

      So that’s that then 😆

    • adam 1.3

      Like the links from the Ideological hacks saying the usual lies and spin the Baba Yaga.

      Forbes, are a joke, spin doctors for wall street, and the harbingers of cupidity.

    • Ad 1.4

      Agree it can be.

      That to me is the sense of a mixed Reserve Bank target, agreed to only a fortnight ago with this government.

      We have had low inflation for nearly two decades now, and low headline unemployment for about six years, but still no sustained wage increases.

      So a minimum wage increase is what you have to do when the economy isn’t functioning to assist actual people.

      After all, if Jo and Joe Average aren’t getting more income and more control over that income, what ‘s the point?

      • Nic the NZer 1.4.1

        The new reserve bank targets are fine but i don’t see them making any real difference in practice (they match plenty of other countries more closely now).

        What will make more of a difference is who is actually appointed governor by the government. This would still be more relevant given the previous targets.

        The main take aways regarding the reserve bank and inflation should be,
        1) the reserve bank policy has bugger all impact on inflation (including house prices).
        2) use of monetary policy alone does not, and can not, result in full employment.
        3) the country should stop mostly relying on monetary policy to generate full employment, because it doesn’t work, and because this strategy often pushes the economy towards a state increased inequality.

    • mikes 1.5

      Those links don’t prove anything.

      http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/vital-teacher-aide-hours-may-be-cut-due-to-minimum-wage-rise/
      – Just the PPSTA method of securing a bit more funding maybe. Regardless no actual proof of lost jobs.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/02/03/proof-perfect-that-the-minimum-wage-costs-jobs/#30715e88771e
      = His proof perfect example is not a suitable example at all which anyone could discover with a little bit of research. His bio says he is an expert on a particular rare earth metal, not on anything else.

      http://www.afr.com/news/policy/industrial-relations/minimum-wage-rise-will-cost-jobs-say-experts-20170606-gwlo3n
      – “says experts?” The article linked to simply states “econmists say…..blah, blah”
      Does that mean all economists? Some economists? A couple of economists?
      Since when are economists experts in anything?

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/07/02/las-minimum-wage-rises-yes-this-really-will-cost-jobs/#7433fe4b41f4
      – Theory only, no proof whatsoever

      • dukeofurl 1.5.1

        We do know the the reverse didnt happen either.

        During the depression wages were cut so it would boost employment was the theory.

      • Babayaga 1.5.2

        Those links don’t prove aNything’

        Yes, actually they do. They prove that there is a counter narrative to Mickey’s.

        • Tricledrown 1.5.2.1

          Babayaga no fact’s equals a right wing propagandist.

          • Baba Yaga 1.5.2.1.1

            There are plenty of facts. There is considerable debate about the impact of increases in the minimum wage, and to present this as anything other than a healthy debate is simply dishonest.

            • Baba Yaga 1.5.2.1.1.1

              …a point this report (which actually supports shifts in the minimum wage) makes well…

              http://econofact.org/do-minimum-wages-really-kill-jobs

              • McFlock

                The existence of “debate” cuts both ways.

                In the absence of any demonstrable harm, why not pay workers more?

                • Baba Yaga

                  I don’t disagree. But there isn’t an absence of evidence. There is debate.

                  • McFlock

                    There’s lots of evidence, but your position seems to be that there’s no clear indication of what that evidence means. Some evidence suggests little or no positive effect on employment, some evidence suggests little or no negative effect on employment.

                    So no demonstrable harm. Otherwise there would be little, if any, debate. Like there are very few people who argue that a lungful of seawater is healthy rather than harmful.

                    But we do know that raising the minimum wage means recipients will have more money.

                    So in the absence of demonstrable harm, why not raise the minimum wage? It’s sure to help recipients, and if everyone’s opinion is reasonable and genuine then it’s just as likely to boost employment as it is to lower it.

                    • Baba Yaga

                      “but your position seems to be that there’s no clear indication of what that evidence means.”
                      Not at all. There is evidence that increases in the minimum wage harm employment, there is evidence they don’t. That’s why there is a debate.

                      “Some evidence suggests little or no positive effect on employment, some evidence suggests little or no negative effect on employment.”
                      And some evidence suggests significant impact on employment.

                    • McFlock

                      Both positive and negative.

                      You can’t have it both ways. Either there’s valid debate (in which case there’s no reason to keep wages at their current sub-living level), or increasing the minimum wage will demonstrably affect employment (in which case there’s a clear case to act or not act accordingly).

                      Cowering and doing nothing for fear of something that might happen regardless of what you do is a poor excuse to keep people poor.

        • Violet 1.5.2.2

          Please address the issues raised. 1. Where is the proof of lost jobs? 2. Why is the reference to “expert” valid in this case? 3. Simple questions to which answers would give validity to your comment 4. Again, provide proof.

          • Baba Yaga 1.5.2.2.1

            “1. Where is the proof of lost jobs?”
            That article didn’t claim there were lost jobs.

            ” 2. Why is the reference to “expert” valid in this case?”
            Who mentioned the term ‘expert’? Just read the content…don’t get all heated up because it is written by a white male.

            “3. Simple questions to which answers would give validity to your comment”
            What questions?

            ” 4. Again, provide proof.”
            Of what? Of the increase to the minimum wage in LA costing jobs? Read the article. Even the LA city officials say it will.

    • Sabine 1.6

      What really happens is that we pay our staff the required Minimum Wage and get on with life.

      Cause we need our staff. And we like our staff. And we want our staff to do well, so…to summarize, we – mom and pop business owner – pay the required minimum wage, maybe even a few cent more, and get on with life and business.

      If you business closes because you have to pay a part timer/full timer 0.5$ more per hour then maybe your business has other issues.

      • dv 1.6.1

        I am very happy to pay a bit more for coffee (etc) if it means the worker can feed/support their family.

        • The Fairy Godmother 1.6.1.1

          And if you are a business owner yourself maybe that coffee worker will have some dollars to spend there.

          • Sacha 1.6.1.1.1

            Workers are customers? Gasp!

          • Gosman 1.6.1.1.2

            How many low wage workers spend a significant proportion of their incomes on Coffee?

            • dv 1.6.1.1.2.1

              10

            • Sabine 1.6.1.1.2.2

              it is not about the ‘significant’ amount that is spend on coffee.
              it is that sometimes someone on a low income can buy themselves or someone a coffee, or a nice slice of cake, or pay a nice dinner that is not served by MacDonald.
              but never let that get into your way of thinking. Right Mike 🙂

            • Andrea 1.6.1.1.2.3

              If you want an answer to your question – ask Stats to go snooping or get WINZ to add it to their multipage compendium. Their snoots are in to most personal matters; why not this?

            • Tricledrown 1.6.1.1.2.4

              Goose man what would you know many low wage workers work long hrs and rely on coffee to keep going.

      • Babayaga 1.6.2

        Good for you. I do the same, but then I guess you’re not one of those people who will potentially lose your job.

        • Sabine 1.6.2.1

          No, I am the one who has staff and who pays min wage plus a few cents. I just have a business to loose.

          never mind dear, its all good.

          • Baba Yaga 1.6.2.1.1

            “I am the one who has staff and who pays min wage plus a few cents. ”

            As I said, so do I. But there are people in jobs whose employers struggle to do that. If those businesses have ‘other issues’, as you claimed, then those jobs may well be lost. That was my point.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 1.7

      Strange – all those links are from right-wing propaganda sites.

  2. Draco T Bastard 2

    I don’t know why he just go full hog and advocate for no minimum wage and pure free market.

    The spelling is Hogg.

    The thing about Hosking’s reckons is that he truly doesn’t understand that people down the income bracket need to be able to afford to live and that the minimum wage, as it is, just doesn’t allow that. Instead he looks at wages as a cost that impacts his profits from his bludging shareholding. Although I doubt he does much of that – he’s probably far more into the speculation of buying and selling shares adding absolutely no value but makes him richer. That added cost has to come out of the wages of the poor.

    As I say, it’s always the poor that pay for the rich which is why having rich people like Hosking creates poverty. Always has and always will.

    If we want to address poverty then we need to get rid of the rich.

    • JohnSelway 2.1

      “If we want to address poverty then we need to get rid of the rich.”

      What would your definition of rich be?

      • Sabine 2.1.1

        being able to buy a maserati and drive it at 100 km as that is the speed limit.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2

        Having Unearned Income from ownership such as shares, rental houses, bank accounts etc. As well as simply being paid too much. Million dollar incomes are too much. In fact, IMO, $150k incomes are too much.

        Many of the defences of existing economic institutions are surprisingly weak, but particularly if people start treating those arrangements as natural – as ‘just how things are’ – they can persist on the basis of power.

        Like rent, interest is asset-based unearned income that accrues without any effort. There may be some administration costs in providing a loan, but these tend to be low and can be charged to the borrower. Like rent, interest presupposes that those who produce goods and services for their income produce a surplus that the lenders can buy with their unearned income. Like rent, therefore, interest is parasitic on producers. As Michael Hudson puts it, it is a ‘deadweight cost’ on the economy.42 It is not merely a transfer, a zero-sum game (where gains equal losses), but a negative-sum game – that is, one that, other things being equal, leaves the economy worse off.

        Quotes from Why we can’t afford the rich.

        • Gosman 2.1.2.1

          “…As well as simply being paid too much…”

          Who gets to decide if someone is being paid too much – You?

          • Sabine 2.1.2.1.1

            No, only people like Mike Hoskins and his ilk, that insist in driving a very fast car at 100 km an hour cause that is the speed limit and they must drive a maserati/porsche cause otherwise no one would know that they have money to burn.

            If they were to only drive a car for transport something smaller, less showy and less pricey would do. But then, Mike Hoskins needs his Maserati, its the only thing of value he has.

            • JohnSelway 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Some people love cars (I like Maserati’s myself though don’t have the wallet to own one).

              Who gives a fuck what car he drives. If he wants one and can afford one then all power to him.

              He is still a dick but not because of his car

              • Chchguy

                You don’t want a Maserati…. believe me! I have to fix them!

              • Draco T Bastard

                If he wants one and can afford one then all power to him.

                You’re assuming that we can afford to pay him enough to own one. All the poverty stricken people say otherwise.

          • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1.2

            No, economics.

        • Brigid 2.1.2.2

          In one of Stephen Fry’s book he says the bank manager (or some such) wanted to talk to him about investing his savings.
          He says, that’s money I’ve earned, I’m likely to earn more, why do I now need to invest it, why cant it just sit there as savings? – or words to that effect.

          I like Stephen Fry

  3. Reality 3

    What incredible hypocrisy of Hosking on his mega salary to object to those on lowly incomes having the right to a decent income.

    If he negotiates an ncrease in his contract will we hear him whining about its inflationary impact? NO WAY. What a despicable human being.

    • Anne 3.1

      At least he’s gone from Seven Sharp and can no longer vent his brand of venal, self- entitled spittle there any more.

  4. adam 4

    The greedy, amoral, and pompous are not going to give the poor an inch.

  5. Gosman 5

    The multiplier effect in relation to the minimum wage only goes so far. Minimum wage workers for example tend not to spend their hard earned money on Flat Whites or the like. This means employers paying an increased minimum wage won’t necessarily be the ones to benefit from the greater disposable income that people have.

    • Theodore 5.1

      The corollary to that, Gosman is to pay people $1 per hour.

      Who would benefit in that case?

    • gsays 5.2

      What I can say, from experience, about the minimum wage increase is that my wage has gone up one dollar an hour. Am still not on the living wage but it’s a step in the right direction.
      This was directly because of the minimum increase.

      Anyone running round ‘chicken littling’ over this increase should keep their powder dry till the minimum is in line with the living wage. Then y’all can get excited.

      • Gosman 5.2.1

        Why?

        • gsays 5.2.1.1

          I guess I got an increase as the employer HAS to raise the wages of the majority of the staff, so others who are more skilled/larger responsibility get an increase too.

    • mickysavage 5.3

      Tell me Gosman what is the multiplier effect in giving this money to the wealthy instead. Do we have an explosion of jobs at maserati dealerships when generated resources are funnelled the rich’s way rather than the way of the working poor?

      That is the problem with your analysis. It does not weigh up what the alternatives are.

      • Draco T Bastard 5.3.1

        Tell me Gosman what is the multiplier effect in giving this money to the wealthy instead.

        Houses cost more and the rich get to speculate on shares and money to become richer while doing absolutely nothing of value.

        It’s called bludging.

      • Gosman 5.3.2

        There are only two alternatives when it comes to money mickey. You either spend it or save it. If you spend it then it impacts consumption immediately and the money you spend flows in to someone elses coffers and is likely to increase consumption further (the multiplier effect). This is generally stronger at the lower end of the income ladder. This is because of the second option to do with money – savings. When you save it you don’t immediately impact consumption or others incomes. Howveer you do make it easier for business to access capital and thus invest for growth. The wealthier you are the more you are likely to save of your income.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 5.4

      It goes far further than giving it to the already rich, who might sit on it.

      • Draco T Bastard 5.4.1

        Actually, it’ll be worse than that. They’ll speculate with it without producing anything of value and the extra income that they have will be paid for by the poor thus creating even more poverty.

    • Andrea 5.5

      Trickle up, Gosman.

      With a lift in income there may* be enough in the rainy day box to ‘splurge’. A wish becomes a reality. Someone further up the income chain, further away from the bowl of despair, can also afford to ‘splurge’. And so on.

      It takes several to many steps before the Flat Muck person buys their drink and slightly dearer nibble – yet – it happens.

      *If the Grabbies at the payday loans, the churches, the electricity provider, rent taker, petrol station, bus company – you know what I’m saying here – haven’t got to the mite first. Retailers are low, low, low in the trading food-chain.

    • Tricledrown 5.6

      Goose man. When the minimum wage goes up it has a knock on effect meaning most others get a wage rise as well.
      OECD research shows the higher the minimum wage the stronger your economy.
      Under 9years of National wages barely grew even though company profitability was at record levels.

  6. Kat 6

    Raising wages will raise the price of a cup of coffee ………”show me the logic Mr Hosking”

      • Pat 6.1.1

        youre conflating two different aspects….economists care not whether the money is spent on pointless overpriced beverages in resource wasting establishments to little useful purpose they are speaking in aggregate over the wider economy…so while less may be spent on flat whites or soy lattes in the high street (though likely not) more will be spent at the supermarket or The Warehouse….which is more important?

      • McFlock 6.1.2

        Wage goes up 75c/hr.
        Mojo raises the price by 10c/cup.
        If that is proportionate, Mojo baristas average 7.5cups/hr.

        That’s pretty pathetic for a workforce you can hire as and when needed around known rush times.

        Story should probably read “minimum wage is excuse to hike prices”.

      • cleangreen 6.1.3

        Well the price of everything else has gone up every year realistically if you haven’t noticed Gosman?

        So maybe you don’t shop around for bargains like us poor folks need to?

        So what’s another item increase gonna do? – as most wont even notice it as every week all items are increasing in food items.

        The inflation index does not show the real increases in basic foods that we poor face every week.

      • Kat 6.1.4

        I asked to be shown “logic” not examples of greed or political spin.

        • Gosman 6.1.4.1

          When the prices rises for something Kat do you generally buy more or less of it?

          • Kat 6.1.4.1.1

            Are you suggesting the cafe’s that increase the price of a cup of coffee will sell less.

          • Andrea 6.1.4.1.2

            When prices drop – do you buy more of it? Only if you have the means and need to store it – and some things don’t store well.

            (If in doubt, try putting a cheap lettuce in the deep freeze for later…)

        • Gosman 6.1.4.2

          When the costs involved in making something goes up does that generally make the price go up, down, or stay the same?

          • adam 6.1.4.2.1

            I’ve missed your bullshit economic analysis Gosman, it’s so much fun reading your waffly liberalism. The lies and spin, to convince people that liberalism is the only option economically. Bloody Hilarious.

            What next, organise your mates to stop producing and buying toilet paper for the supermarkets, so you can blame the government for it. Oops you already did that…

          • Kat 6.1.4.2.2

            Depends on the efficiency factors as opposed to cost reductions.

            • Gosman 6.1.4.2.2.1

              I stated general,y not in all cases. However it is good to see you can acknowledge there is logic between raising the costs of the inputs for something and the actual end price.

              • Andrea

                It depends who is raising the costs, doesn’t it?

                The farmers producing cashews or cacao aren’t getting the price rises from scarcity due to a poor season – yet Someone is.

                Seems a lot like minimum wages here. People toiling hard and long for very little reward at all – yet prices to consumers keep rising.

                ‘Oh, exchange rates, fuel costs, taxes, new legislation, blah and so’

                Nothing to do with the workers. Far too much to do with a surplus of ticket clippers and arrangers in the middle. Opportunists and venal ratbags.

              • Kat

                Not if efficiency factors can offset the requirement to increase the end price.

              • Tricledrown

                Goose man. Coffee machines have become more effective than allowing workers to make more coffee per hr.
                Prices should go down and wages go up.

          • UncookedSelachimorpha 6.1.4.2.3

            There are other things that can change without increasing price – e.g. profit expectation.

            For example, Walmart in USA had gross profit around USD$132 billion in 2016 and paid its CEO over USD$22m in 2017 – but pays much of its workforce so little that they rely on government welfare to survive. Like many companies that abuse their staff – they have options to increase pay that do not involve increasing prices.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 6.2

      If an extra $ per coffee is what it takes to treat people properly – then that is fine.

  7. Bill 7

    The idea that a rise in minimum wage will “bust” a business is evinced by all those business owners running around in clapped out second hand cars unable to fill their tanks for the week, right? I mean, really, when was the last time you saw a rich business owner?

    Actually. Insofar as many people who make a go at setting up their own business do do it hard and don’t survive five years, the bullshit he’s spouting almost has a point.

    Of course, a point he’s missing is that with more money going around, more people would find it easier to set up a business and see it survive.

    And the really big point he’s missing is that bigger businesses deliberately undercut smaller businesses cost wise, and/or maneuver to have them excluded from supply chains and distribution networks in the never ending battle for market share.

    But meanwhile, I’m off to spend my $2 a week social security increase. I don’t expect it to have much of an impact on the survivability of the local dairy, but hey….

    • Ed 7.1

      As you say.

      Most of the people employed by businesses paying the minimum wage work for the largest of the corporations.
      How much does McDonalds pay?
      How much does Progressive Enterprises pay?
      How much does Starbucks pay?

      etc, etc

  8. savenz 8

    As well as minimum wage increases I’d like to see some more of that dreaded word – regulation and not on people, on business price hikes and some balls by government to actually tackle the cartels. I know that is high treason in the modern world!

    Such as in the electricity sector – funny enough we all know that a child died in a mouldy state house, however the debate never turned to, why they did not turn on power when they had a heat pump, they did not turn it on, because they can’t afford power, even the cheapest power from a heat pump.

    Sustainable power would provide them with free and reduced priced electricity but not on your Nelly in NZ – instead before getting to that, the debate gets hijacked into keep our electrical profits going on old technology , because they we will milk every last cent off consumers, while trying to stop new tech, to keep their profits going, rather than change or innovate …”

    “For those lacking the time or inclination to plod through the detail of the debate, here is a quick summary. When new renewable technologies such as rooftop solar come into the market and provide serious competition to the established generators and lines networks, those existing players see their profits threatened. To protect those profits they must either kill off the new technologies, or extract more money from their remaining customers, or both.

    If the attempt to protect profits fails, the big companies face write-downs on their asset values and share prices – which would, of course, be the normal and expected outcome in competitive industries subject to market forces.

    The New Zealand electricity industry is not, however, a competitive industry subject to market forces. The production and retailing of electricity is done by a tight oligopoly of five big companies, while distribution of power takes place through natural-monopoly networks whose prices and asset values are protected by a compliant Commerce Commission.

    Over the three decades of so-called “reform” the big players have written into their balance sheets over $14 billion of “revaluations” – pure capital gains, representing the value of wealth extracted from electricity consumers via the industry’s successful rent-seeking.

    Those huge wealth transfers, and the price-gouging of captive customers to sustain them, are directly threatened by the arrival of independent supply based on economically viable renewables technology. Faced with the reality, rather than just the mirage, of real choice for consumers, the industry has rushed to hide behind the skirts of the Commerce Commission and the Government.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/102708888/way-to-be-cleared-for-big-electricity-players-to-prey-on-lowincome-households

  9. savenz 9

    I have not even got to the rort of how if you build a house and require a transformer, you have to pay $7000+ to the electrical company for the transformer, before you get the transformer and then wait for months after paying to hopefully receive the go ahead, but funny enough, you don’t own the transformer in spite of having to pay for it.

    You then have to pay to put in the physical lines to your house, and the meter boxes and even the number you get on the meter box. But that in spite of paying for it all you don’t own it, and you pay a heavy line rental charge to the electrical company for the usage of the infrastructure you just paid to put in but somehow they own. If something goes wrong with it, you also have to pay for the repair to “your” infrastructure. But if you move houses, you can’t remove any of it because if in that instance it “belongs to the electricity company”.

    By the time you do all that, somehow it costs about $25k in costs that benefit the electricity company before you start actually wiring up your own house and pay those costs of the electrical costs of what you do actually own.

    Then they wonder why there are no cheap houses in Auckland and why it costs so much more than overseas to build a house here.

    P.s. The commerce commission is ok with this.

    P.s.s. I’m pretty sure the 14 billion of profits called revaluations is linked to the mafia type extraction of capital from anybody connecting to the grid that new patrons personally pay for but don’t own and are forced to ‘rent’ from the power company their own improvements!

  10. JohnSelway 10

    Is Mike Hosking still a thing? I can’t stand him

  11. Sabine 11

    I think Hoskins is just annoyed that lowly people – not accomplished and worldy people like him and his missus – can also afford a coffee. That makes that cuppa just so much less special. Its like owning a maserati, you can still only drive 100 km an hour but at least you are the only one driving a maserati at 100 km an hour.

    • Naki man 11.1

      Hosking sold his maserati years ago.
      If you think men who buy this type of car havnt driven them around 200km
      then you are dreaming. Speed camera fines are only a problem for poor people.

      • mac1 11.1.1

        200 km/h, Naki man? Slow coach.

        From 2010, “A speeding Swedish driver is facing the world’s biggest ever motoring fine of 650,000 euros – around £538,000 – after being clocked at 180mph while driving through Switzerland. The 37-year-old man’s £140,000 Mercedes SLS AMG was impounded along with his driving licence after soaring along at two hundred and ninety km/h”.

        What I liked about this was that the Swiss system recognised your point about speeding fines being only a problem for poor people. This man was fined according to his income……. hence the 650,000 euro fine and impounding of flash car.

        Would you support a similar system here, Naki man, in enabling your concern for the poor to be realised?

      • Tricledrown 11.1.2

        He has a faster phallic /status symbol now Nakered man.
        But he likes being stuck larger longer traffic jams so he can show off to more lesser motorists.

  12. dukeofurl 12

    Heres the previous NZ miniumum wage rates since 2008
    1 April 2008 $12.00
    1 April 2009 $12.50
    1 April 2010 $12.75
    1 April 2011 $13.00
    1 April 2012 $13.50
    1 April 2013 $13.75
    1 April 2014 $14.25
    1 April 2015 $14.75
    1 April 2016 $15.25
    1 April 2017 $15.75
    Wikipedia

    I well remember the spouting from Hoicking for those years ????

    • SPC 12.1

      It’s like the petrol tax increase – the 3 cents a litre increase occured in 2009 2010 2013 2014 and 2015 and not one MSM commentator masde an issue of it.

      The MW was increased 2009-2017 and little is said by Hosking.

      But then in 2018 …

      • dukeofurl 12.1.1

        National made sure their announcement of 3 x 3c per year ( + GST) was done on 18th December 2012.

        Would you believe they fell for it and the commentariat were already on their hols.

      • Naki man 12.1.2

        SPC
        You have missed the point, people dont mind a increase in petrol tax when the money is spent on new motorways and improving the roads.
        Labour are increasing petrol tax and cutting the roading budget by 5 billion dollars, this after promising no new taxes in there first term.

        • dukeofurl 12.1.2.1

          It is going to be spent on improving the roads
          According the the Governments Policy statement

          Local road improvements +42%
          Local road maintenance + 22%
          Regional improvements +96%
          Road policing +14%
          State highway maintenance + 18%

          And those going down
          State highway improvements -11%
          New state highways -40%

          national has been spending big of its RONS which affect a few areas around the big cities. These roads wouldnt normally be funded as the BCR is below One, but Joyce doesnt care about that anymore.

        • SPC 12.1.2.2

          There is no difference between spending money on new roads and spending money to take cars off existing roads – both result in the same amount of road per car.

          National promised no new taxes in 2008, the petrol tax went up all the same in 2009 and 2010. No one made an issue of it (though there was of GST going up because this is not a common every year occurence – road cost inflation etc).

          So there is precedent for the petrol tax going up NOT to be seen as a new tax.

          • dukeofurl 12.1.2.2.1

            Yes . Ask The Crusher did she VOTE for the increases in tax or ‘excise’ for petrol in 2013 – when the 3 X 3c per year was passed.

            National has always been VERY careful to call petrol increase an ‘excise’
            cigarette increase an ‘excise’
            Alcohol increase an ‘excise’

            The technical difference seems to be that excise is levied at manufacture rather than at sale.

          • Naki man 12.1.2.2.2

            “There is no difference between spending money on new roads and spending money to take cars off existing roads – both result in the same amount of road per car.”

            That nuts, we wont take our cars off the roads, there is no reasonable alternative for nearly all of us. I start work at 4:30am out of town, for those of us who work 12 hour shifts there is barely enough hours in the day without trying to use non existant public transport.

            • SPC 12.1.2.2.2.1

              If you looked you would note that provincial road funding is up, not down. Also up is road safety/median strip funding etc.

              And it is pretty obvious that the (major urban area) public transport funding occurs where it does take cars off roads. Do you have a problem with Aucklanders paying the extra on petrol to cover the cost of that?

              • Keepcalmcarryon

                Provincial roading is up fuck all, $4 billion for city public transport mostly Auckland, $800 million for “the provinces”
                Let’s not pretend this isn’t all about the city.

                • SPC

                  All … $800M …

                  Local road improvements +42%
                  Local road maintenance + 22%
                  Regional improvements +96%
                  State highway maintenance + 18%

                  Most of the roads here are outside of the major urban centres.

        • Tricledrown 12.1.2.3

          They are not cutting the roading budget by $5billion.
          Nakered man.
          They have ditched Nationals roads of political bribery to reduce the massive increase in the road toll becaise National cut road safety programs and police numbers by 1,000 reducing road policing while car numbers have increased.

    • Craig H 12.2

      I came here to post this, so thanks for saving me a job! National almost certainly would have put minimum wage to 50c, so the likely additional impact of Labour’s policy is 25c per hour.

  13. I reckon there is not much that would ever makes Hosking happy.

    He would be best left alone, playing with his toys in his own little sand pit.
    It is just the way he is, a very sad little man.

  14. SPC 14

    His purpose is to remind National voters of their class interest – more immigrants and the lower the MW then they get cheaper workers/goods and services and with immigrants increasing demand for housing – highter property values/rent revenue.

    His column is perpetual class warfare.

    And of course leaving it to Like Mike plus one to put the boot into any left wing resistance (Greens).

    Similalry BS protects his Winnie, while his plus one attacks the Greens (using the female to attack the Greens for their solidarity with the poor, just as the right often use women MP’s to front their beneficiary bashing).

  15. newsense 15

    Hosking is tedious.

    What we really need is a competent minister of broadcasting who doesn’t cost respected left wingers their jobs, so there are some damn lefties in one or two places of authority in the media.

  16. ianmac 16

    How about this:
    Like an obnoxious uncle who has drunk too much at Christmas Mike Hosking continues to loudly broadcast his reckons on all the things that are terrible with this country and with this Government. Like how they and Auckland Council want to stop him owning a gun and will force him in the near future to live in an apartment with no guns and (gasp) no spaces to fire his guns. This is personal for him. There is no way he will let the Government take his guns from him while he still draws breath.

    I thought he sounded just like a solid member of the NRA. 🙂

    • Whispering Kate 16.1

      Are you leg pulling – surely the man doesn’t have a gun, you have to be kidding – put me out of my misery, I am surprised the guy would get a gun permit, and for what reason – he wouldn’t go hunting for fear he would get his hair wrecked out in the bush.

      • ianmac 16.1.1

        Sorry Whispering Kate. Do not think Hosking has a gun. He just comes across as the classic NRA bigot. Just kidding about anasty piece of work.

        • Whispering Kate 16.1.1.1

          Thank the lord for that – the guy is a first class twat – in charge of a gun doesn’t bear thinking about.

  17. mary_a 17

    Hosking is a pathetic, uncaring, Natz loving blow hard gobshite, living in another dimension to the rest of us!

    I’m waiting for his comments re Middlemore hospital. Bit slow coming Mike. Or did I miss them?

    • NZJester 17.1

      Mike does not know what a public hospital is. He would be in private hospitals, not public.
      His answer would be the normal National Party reasoning of “Why not Privatise it”.
      I do wonder if that was Nationals next move if they got in. They would blame all the problems on the boards hiding the underfunding and then put in a privatized hospital system to replace it.

  18. NZJester 18

    If it was truly a free market and everyone had equal power, wages would be higher than they are, but for too long those with money have been fixing the market in their favor paying the National Party to adjust the free market heavily in their favor. Having them let in cheap labor from outside NZ so that the businesses here do not have to offer a fair market wage, and by allowing business to have easy hire and fire schemes or 0-hour schemes that keep out unions by off the record threatening to fire or cut the hours of those who try and organize or join a union.

  19. mosa 19

    Hosking and his ramblings are shared by a large National voting public and media that will do everything to make sure the status quo remains even if that means objecting to the crumbs being thrown in the form of a increase in the MINIMUM wage.

    ” Let them eat cake ” is still relevant today without the outrage of the french peasants.

  20. Pete 20

    Mike Hosking reckons this, Mike Hosking reckons that.

    Does his opinion have some preference to be recognised and valued as an intellectual and sagacious one and considered ahead of the opinion of anyone else? Because he is on the radio his opinion rates serious discussion?

    Mike Hosking reckons this, Mike Hosking reckons that. I reckon he’s a shallow thinking self-absorbed person whose facile opinions deserve far less prominence than they get.

  21. Ian 21

    He doesn’t mention the cost of not supporting low-income earners because it would sound obnoxious and probably be quite a disaster for New Zealand.

    Just image if a government followed Hosking’s prescription and 400,000 New Zealanders were pushed underwater. It would lead to war.

  22. JustMe 22

    I get the impression Mike Hosking deems himself as being the ‘font of all knowledge’.
    He comes across as claiming he knows everything and has an answer for everything.
    Since he is known to be the ‘Mouthpiece of the NZ National Party’ I am sure he is just mouthing(word for word)into print etc everything told to him by say John Key.
    Perhaps it’s well time that Mike Hosking had his enrmous pay packet cut so he starts to know what NZers especially those on low incomes have to live with.
    Still his ‘I know everything attitude’ reflects badly back upon the NZ Herald who allow him to write so much rubbish on an almost daily basis.
    Because of Mike Hosking I now cannot be bothered reading articles in the NZ Herald. The tabloid newspaper with its copious number of National Party Admiration Society ‘journos’ have become too much.

  23. Nic the NZer 23

    Seems Mike Hosking has been turned into a blithering idiot by the economics 101 version of economics.

    Unfortunately economics is taught from the most unrealistic and simplistic, heading towards the more complicated and somewhat realistic concepts. In the simplistic version we its assumed that market demand curves slope down and market supply curves slope up. This is unrealistic even for individuals who often violate the implied behaviour of both demand and supply functions. Individuals also do not transact and conduct business as if prices float and are demand driven (frequently businesses don’t change prices, and workers don’t demand a change in pay just because there is more or less demand at a particular moment).

    In addition it was demonstrated mathematically that in a market, where pay feeds back to individuals participating, even where all the individuals behave according to conforming demand and supply functions the aggregate market demand and supply function could take on any shape at all. This is called the Sonnenschein–Mantel–Debreu theorem. Mike clearly never learned that it proven factually he is incorrect in his assumptions.

    Yes, economists have started to look at actual experiments but these have not demonstrated clearly how markets will respond to changes in the minimum wage with much clarity. Typically though it doesn’t seem to effect the number of jobs much (sometimes the effect seems to be to create more jobs).

    • Pat 23.1

      “Seems Mike Hosking has been turned into a blithering idiot by the economics 101 version of economics.”

      You mean there was a time when he wasnt?

  24. Tricledrown 24

    The Unite unions head was on latent Smiths right wing show yesterday saying the fuel tax was extremely bad for his members.
    But using his logic wage rises would also be bad for his members.

  25. Tricledrown 25

    Goose man your an certifiable idiot. That is one company that aims at the top end of the market their customers won’t quibble over a few cents.
    The wage content of a cup of coffee doesn’t match the large increases.
    Coffee has remained the same price for years even though wages have gone up by a lot more the 25cents more than the normal increase.
    The sheer number of coffee outlets has continued to grow. And must be profitable for this to occur!
    But Gooseman the pathetic propagandist tries to mix smaller amounts of truth with his froth believing people wil fall for his Trolling.

  26. smilin 26

    Pretty simple really people like him are just going to have to wear it for the first time in a bloody long time because what they cost this country is now becoming more obvious and the last thing we need is an obnoxious self serving git bleating about that which he has only an opinion of .And all the rest of us have an opinion that is probably more valid anyway .

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 8 (sanitised version)
    For those folk who find my other Lock-Down Diary versions too “negative” or otherwise unpalatable… Here’s a photo of a pretty flower, .   . Better? Tomorrow’s Sanitised Version: a cute animal video. . . . =fs= ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 8
    . . April 2: Day eight of living in lock-down… Today, my work day starts late. Our rosters and clients have been dramatically changed, lessening (theoretically) the number of people in our work “bubble”.  If just one of us catches covid19 the impact could be considerable as Grey Base Hospital ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • A note on apartments and bubbles
    As Aotearoa enters week two of lockdown, it’s clear we’re all still working out what our “bubbles” look like and how to stay in them to stop the spread of Covid-19. New to the government’s Covid-19 website is some good guidance for people living in apartment blocks. Recent decades have ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    4 days ago
  • Getting in futures shape 
    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” Lenin Don’t we all know that feeling now.

    Prospect Magazine alerted me to this particularly apt quote. It is a much more evocative quote than Hemingway’s “gradually then suddenly” which is also doing ...

    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    4 days ago
  • Maybe axing Clark would be unfair. But what about any of this is fair?
    Yesterday was the day the consequences of the lockdown suddenly got very real for many. Firms have been closing and laying people off since the outset of the quarantine but this has mostly been happening out of the public eye. The mass closure of a number of iconic New Zealand ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    4 days ago
  • Might a ‘Coasean’ social contract mitigate overall societal harm from COVID-19?
    Brian Williamson1, Prof Nick Wilson2 (1Economic consultant, UK; 2University of Otago Wellington) In this blog, we outline how a win-win social contract could be forged to address the major dimensions of response to the COVID-19 pandemic when using a mitigation strategy: the particular need to protect older people from high ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Returning To “Normalcy”.
    Resuming Normal Service: The Republican Party's nominee for in 1920, Warren Harding, promised the American people: “not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration”. If she wishes to remain our prime minister, then Jacinda Ardern will offer New Zealanders the same.HOW EDUCATED AMERICA snickered when the ...
    4 days ago
  • New Zealand’s Government Must Save New Zealand’s Media.
    No Free Society Without A Free And Functioning News Media: If we are to surrender our civil rights to the broader cause of defeating Covid-19, then foreign corporations must, likewise, surrender their right to inflict immense economic and cultural harm on New Zealanders simply because it improves their bottom line.I’M ...
    4 days ago
  • Corona fevers and the madness of models
    by Daphna Whitmore A third of the world is under lockdown and a clear assessment of this measure to curb the spread of COVID-19 is urgently needed.  With any high-stakes decisions it has to be asked what are we dealing with here? Are the measures warranted? Will they achieve their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Lockdown day 8
    I haven’t done a huge amount in the last few days. I’m reading The Poppy War and I’ve sort of poked at a couple of games – I started SOMA but I’m a wimp and I quit while in the first room after the brain scan. I might try it ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    5 days ago
  • Backstage and Theatre
    The swan politicians may be gliding on the water, occasionally snapping at one another. Meanwhile, as the Covid19 crisis illustrates, the officials are desperately paddling below providing the real locomotion. One of the most fatuous recent grandstanding comments (of about a week ago), adding to the public’s anxieties, was ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    5 days ago
  • Legal Beagle: Waiver, the singular Crown and the conduct of Crown legal business
    Much has been written about the importance of discretion in an emergency situation, and the concerns raised by the potential for it to be exercised arbitrarily. Given the quality of the discussion, there seemed little point in adding to it at any length. In particular, I point to the evidence ...
    5 days ago
  • Highlights from Bauer Media’s science-related reporting
    Today has felt surreal. I was all set to touch base online with my science communication students when a colleague shared the news that Bauer Media would be shutting down its publications immediately. The first link I saw implied it was Woman’s Weekly affected, and even that shocked me. But ...
    SciBlogsBy Sarah-Jane O'Connor
    5 days ago
  • Outsiders.
    Bogeymen, Real And Imagined: Is the number of psychopathic and sociopathic individuals in any given society truly as vanishingly small as we like to tell ourselves? Isn’t it more likely that the mass-shooters and serial-killers filling the headlines represent only the tip of a much, much larger iceberg of frightfulness? ...
    5 days ago
  • We have a right to know the rules we are expected to obey
    Outgoing Police Commissioner Mike Bush appeared before the Epidemic Response Committee today, who asked him for the rules police are using to enforce the lockdown. He refused:Police Commissioner Mike Bush has admitted the advice given to Kiwis about what they're able to do during the lockdown hasn't been clear enough. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 7 (sanitised version)
    For those folk who find my other Lock-Down Diary versions too “negative” or otherwise unpalatable… Here’s a photo of my cat, . . Better? Tomorrow’s Sanitised Version: a pretty flower. . . . =fs= ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 7
    . . April 1: Day seven of living in lock-down… This morning I had a brief chat with one of my neighbours, “D” (social distance between us, a good three or four metres). I learned he had resigned from his previous job and had been hired by another company – ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • RIP The Listener, New Zealand’s pioneering voice
    Funnily enough, my thought as I start this post is whether it will be well written enough. Or should that be well enough written? Because so much of what I know about good writing came from my two stints at The Listener, which this morning was shut down due to ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    5 days ago
  • OK, Britney: stop sniping at National for doing its job
    With normal democratic procedures in abeyance, there were two ways to go. First, it was open for the government to dissolve itself and invite the National Party to join a ministry of national salvation. That would have lessened the democratic deficit of the times by having a team of rivals without ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    5 days ago
  • Helpful tips for parents during lockdown
    Dr Kirsty Ross Children and young people can respond differently in times of distress. This also varies by age and developmental stage, with younger children having more magical and imaginative thinking, and older children having more awareness and knowledge of the issues our communities are facing (which brings up ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #13, 2020
    6 days ago
  • Hungary is now a dictatorship
    Hungary has been a virtual dictatorship for a decade now, as Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has gradually eroded its democracy. But now, its official, with the passage of an indefinite emergency law allowing rule by decree:Hungary’s parliament has passed a new set of coronavirus measures that includes jail terms for ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A new Ministry of Works
    While the economy is on pause under lockdown, the government is beginning to plan how to cope with the post-lockdown, post-tourism, post-export education world we will eventually find ourselves in. They're planning a lot of infrastructure spending as economic stimulus, and have asked for proposals which can start the moment ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Capture: Well spaced out
    It's my distraction,  setting up tiny scenes to photograph.  I've got stuck on the Babushka dolls for now.  Something about their bubble shape.  Something about their never changing, smiling features, suggesting persistent equanimity.  Can we get through everything that is being thrown at us and keep at least a tiny ...
    6 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 6
    . . March 31: Day six of living in lock-down… This time I managed to sleep a little longer and the alarm woke me at the pre-set time: 6.55am. Then remembered I was working a later shift and could’ve slept in. Oh well, there are things to do at home. ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • March ’20 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: Diamond Harbour School Blogs I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is unexpectedly missing or ...
    6 days ago
  • Hard News: Poll Pot and the partisans
    Yesterday's Horizon poll showing support for a "Yes" vote in this year's cannabis referendum sliding into the majority for the first time in a year looked like good news for reformers – and it probably is. But the result warrants some scrutiny.The poll is the fifth in a series commissioned ...
    6 days ago
  • Why those bubbles are so important
    For almost a week now, every one of us who isn’t an essential worker has been confined to their bubble. We are allowed to go shopping for groceries, to visit the doctor, and to get a bit of exercise if we stay local. The reason we are doing this is ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    6 days ago
  • A Government System That Works
    The Covid-19 saga will no doubt produce many twists and turns for us before it is finally brought to an end. But one thing it has shown us – and what comfort it should bring us – is that our country’s government is in good hands. I am not thinking ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • Smashing down the barriers: Where are we at with COVID vaccines?
    In the absence of a vaccine or a cure for a deadly disease, staying home in your bubble is what you do, the concept is not new.  To the best of my knowledge last time we did this in NZ was for polio, in the years before a vaccine came ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    7 days ago
  • National Network on Cuba (USA): “Cuban medical solidarity is a pillar of its society and is founde...
    The following statement was released on March 28 by the National Network on Cuba, a coalition of 40 groups, based in the United States. In recent weeks, Cuba has deployed hundreds of medical providers to over a dozen countries in Europe, Asia, as well as to their neighbors in Latin ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Alarming decrease in calves increases fears for endangered Hector’s dolphin
    This has been a terrible summer for Hector’s dolphins. The first indication was very low numbers of dolphin sightings during late spring and early summer. The Otago University Marine Mammal Research Team has carried out routine dolphin surveys at Banks Peninsula for more than 30 years. In all that time, ...
    SciBlogsBy Otago Marine Science
    7 days ago
  • Time for Grant Robertson to reveal package #2?
    On March 17, Finance Minister Grant Robertson was quick out of the blocks with an economic rescue package to help businesses through the inevitable recession resulting from the coronavirus pandemic. Robertson had pulled together a scheme in short order that so far seems to have saved many jobs. In his ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    7 days ago
  • Saving lives
    The purpose of the lockdown is to save lives, by reducing the spread of covid-19. We won't know if its really working for another week, but given the devastation that will result if it doesn't - 14,000 dead is the optimistic scenario - its definitely worth trying. But pausing the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 5
    . . March 30: Day five of living in lock-down… Woke up still in darkness. Alarm hadn’t gone off. Turn to radio clock; it’s a few minutes after 6am… I lie there in the dark, waiting to drift off to sleep… but it ain’t happening. Clock ticks over to 6.55 ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Les Gray: the man who told the truth
    The story of Les Gray, the public sector psychologist who told the truth about his use of cannabis and set off a storm, has a special place in the lore of cannabis reform in New Zealand.When Paul Shannon interviewed Gray for the 'Dope and Hope' issue of Planet magazine in ...
    1 week ago
  • Why now? Historical specificity and the perfect storm that has created trans identity politics
    by Phil Duncan For Marxists, a key concern about social trends is their context – not just their causes, but why they happen when they do.  Events and phenomena have causes, but they also are time or period-specific. While much of the left have capitulated recently to postmodernism, most notably ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Time for a living wage for supermarket workers
    Since the lockdown began, we've all suddenly been reminded who the actually essential workers in our society are: not the people at the top who pay themselves the big bucks and rort the perks, but the people at the bottom they screw over and squeeze: cleaners, warehouse staff, truck drivers ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: MUSIC: Lockdown Grooves
    Kia ora! As I've watched nearly all my remaining work vanish over the past couple of days, it has occured to me that one good way to keep me away from arguing with fools on Twitter all the time (in the knowledge that all we're really doing is processing our ...
    1 week ago
  • A place of greater safety?
    Aotearoa New Zealand has committed to trying to extirpate the virus that causes COVID-19 from its shores. To do that, as a society we’ve moved to “Level 4”. That means adapting to unprecedented restrictions on our personal freedoms, particularly to our rights to move freely and associate with friends and ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • The police and public trust
    When the Prime Minister declared a state of emergency last week, she handed the police powers to enforce it. And almost immediately, we started hearing about heavy-handed, arbitrary "enforcement" by police who (at best) cared more about order than law, or (more likely) had no idea what the rules were ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 4
    . . Lock Down: Day 4 – A photo essay with observations . March 29: Usual wake up routine as RNZ snaps on my radio-clock. Jim Mora’s voice slowly enters my conciousness; there’s talk of a second wave of covid19 taking hold in South Korea; the week in Parliament – ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • COVID-19 vs New Zealand
    Yesterday, New Zealand recorded its first Covid-19 related death on the West Coast. Unfortunately this is unlikely to be the only fatality, with the virus now being found in every region of the country.However despite the significant danger, people are still unfortunately breaching lockdown rules.There’s really only one main very ...
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #13
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Review... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... ‘Misinformation kills’: The link between coronavirus conspiracies and climate denial   Grist / Rob Kim / Stringer / CSA Images  Scientific ...
    1 week ago
  • Rāhui day 4
    The kids did surprisingly well today – meltdown count was about 3, and mostly fairly short ones. (And a fourth while I was writing.) Game-wise I had a go at Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark. It’s a fairly standard RPG with turn-based combat and what they call a “mature storyline” (it ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    1 week ago
  • Letter to a friend
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 3
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #13
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 22, 2020 through Sat, Mar 28, 2020 Articles Linked to on Facebook Sun, Mar 22, 2020 In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters by Chelsea Harvey, ...
    1 week ago
  • Rāhui day 3
    I’m here in lockdown with my flatmate and her two girls (6 and 2) and it. is. a time. They’re usually really active so to start with the only boardgame in the house is the copy of Guess Who that the 6 year old got for her birthday. Flatmate commented ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    1 week ago

  • Government helps Pacific communities fight COVID
    The Government is stepping up efforts to help protect New Zealand’s Pacific communities in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet has agreed that $17 million will be allocated to support a COVID-19 Pacific Response Package, which will: Support Pacific health and disability services facing increased demand; Ramp up public health messaging ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Statement from the Prime Minister on Dr David Clark
    “Yesterday evening the Health Minister advised me of his trip to a beach during the lockdown and offered his resignation,” Jacinda Ardern said.  “Under normal conditions I would sack the Minister of Health. What he did was wrong, and there are no excuses.  “But right now, my priority is our ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Statement from David Clark
    Last night as part of my preparation for the Epidemic Response Committee, I provided the Prime Minister with a complete picture of my activity outside my home during Alert Level 4.  That included the fact that on the first weekend of the Alert Level 4 lockdown I drove my family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • COVID-19 mental health support begins
    A range of support is being rolled out across New Zealand to help people look after their mental health during COVID-19 Health Minister David Clark said this morning. “COVID-19 has brought a lot of uncertainty into our lives and many of us will be feeling some level of distress or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago
  • New Zealanders in Peru to be assisted by Government charter flight
    The New Zealand Government has made arrangements to charter a flight for New Zealanders stranded in Peru to depart the country, following agreement with the Chilean government to allow the necessary transit through Chile, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters announced today. “Like many travellers around the world at the moment, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • COVID-19 Hospital Preparation Well Advanced
    Hospital preparations for COVID-19 are well advanced says Health Minister David Clark. “Hospitals across New Zealand are repurposing buildings and training staff to get ready for COVID-19 patients. This gives me confidence that we are well prepared for any potential increase in COVID-19 patients needing hospital level care,” said David ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Further measures to support businesses
    The Government will be introducing legislation to make changes to the Companies Act to help companies facing insolvency due to COVID-19 to remain viable and keep New Zealanders in jobs. The temporary changes include: Giving directors of companies facing significant liquidity problems because of COVID-19 a ‘safe harbour’ from insolvency ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Govt’s COVID plan, economic strength recognised
    The Government’s plan to cushion the blow of COVID-19 by supporting incomes, jobs and businesses, and position the economy to recover has been backed by another international report. International credit rating agency Moody’s today reaffirmed its highest Aaa credit rating on New Zealand, saying the economy is expected to remain ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Funding certainty for sports through COVID-19
    National sports organisations have been given certainty of funding to ensure they can remain viable through the COVID-19 pandemic, Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “The global spread of COVID-19 has had a significant impact on sport and recreation in New Zealand, including the cancellation or postponement of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Butchers now allowed to process pork
    Changes have been made to allow butchers to process pork, only for supply to supermarkets or other processors or retailers that are open, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has announced. “We carefully weighed the risk of allowing butchers to open their shops for retail customers, but the risk of spreading COVID-19 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Essential workers leave scheme established
    Essential workers who take leave from work to comply with public health guidance are being supported with a leave scheme to ensure they will continue to receive income, say the Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Iain Lees-Galloway and Minister for Social Development, Carmel Sepuloni. A number of essential businesses ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Govt WhatsApp helps share COVID-19 information
    A Government WhatsApp channel has been launched to help make information more easily accessible and shareable in the fight against COVID-19. Govt.NZ, which is free to use on any mobile device, will carry information and news for the public, businesses, healthcare providers, not for profits and local government. It can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Managed departure plan for stranded foreign nationals enables safe, orderly exit
    The Government has announced a plan to enable the safe, orderly exit of tens of thousands of stranded foreign nationals from New Zealand during the current COVID-19 Alert Level 4 restrictions, Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters has said. “When we moved into lockdown a week ago, the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government delivers COVID-19 support to GPs and Pharmacies
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says the Government is delivering on its commitment to support general practice doctors and nurses, and pharmacies on the front-line of our fight against COVID-19. "For us to overcome COVID-19, we need community health services such as general practice and community pharmacy to step up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Susan Thomas the new Chief High Court Judge
    Justice Susan Thomas has been appointed Chief High Court Judge, Attorney-General David Parker announced today.  She replaces Justice Geoffrey Venning who has resigned from the position.   David Parker paid tribute to Justice Venning, who he said had stewarded the High Court very capably over the last five years.   “On behalf ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Business Finance Guarantee – applications open
    Businesses can start applying to their banks for loans under the Business Finance Guarantee Scheme set up to support the New Zealand economy during the COVID-19 pandemic. “We’re moving quickly to protect New Zealand businesses, jobs and the economy during this unprecedented global economic shock,” Finance Minister Grant Robertson said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Work starts on ways to fast-track consents to boost recovery from Covid-19 downturn
    Work is underway looking at measures to speed up consents for development and infrastructure projects during the recovery from COVID 19, to provide jobs and stimulate our economy.  Environment Minister David Parker said the COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis that will have a wide ranging and lasting impact ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Advance payments to support contractors
    Advance payments will be made to transport construction industry contractors to retain the workforce and ensure it is ready to quickly gear up to build projects which will be vital to New Zealand’s COVID-19 economic recovery, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. He said keeping the workforce required to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government seeks infrastructure projects
    The Government has tasked a group of industry leaders to seek out infrastructure projects that are ready to start as soon as the construction industry returns to normal to reduce the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford and Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones say. The Infrastructure ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Health system scaled up to prepare for COVID-19
    Work to scale up the health system in preparation for COVID-19 was today outlined by Health Minister David Clark, as he reported back to the new Epidemic Response Committee. “We are well placed to contain the spread of COVID-19. We have taken early and decisive action at our borders, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Essential media COVID-19 guidelines refined
    The Government is refining its COVID-19 essential business guidance to include the distribution of news publications for communities which are hard to reach. The Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, Kris Faafoi, said the move was in recognition of the importance for New Zealanders who might be harder to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Supermarkets able to open on Easter Sunday
    The Government is ensuring supermarkets can open on Easter Sunday so we can buy groceries, but stay closed on Good Friday allowing workers to take a break. This provides a balanced approach and ensures we avoid large queues that two days closure may cause. “Supermarkets will be able to open ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • New Zealand defence personnel conclude mission at Taji
    Following the successful conclusion of the Building Partner Capacity (BPC) mission at Taji, New Zealand defence personnel are returning to New Zealand from Iraq, in accordance with the Cabinet decision made in June 2019, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today. “New Zealand is very ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • State of National Emergency extended
    The State of National Emergency to help stop the spread of COVID-19 has been extended for a further seven days, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare said. The initial declaration on March 25 lasted seven days and can be extended as many times as necessary. “Since we went into isolation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Strong Govt books support ‘go hard, go early’ response
    New Zealand’s ability to go hard and go early in the fight against COVID-19 has been underpinned by strong Government finances and the growing economy heading into this global pandemic, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Treasury today released the Crown financial statements for the eight months to the end ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Christchurch Hospital Hagley ICU to open to support COVID-19 response
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients.   The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government supports Air NZ freight flights
    The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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