More charter school hypocrisy

21 comments on “More charter school hypocrisy ”

• Comments are now closed

1. tracey 1

   9 October 2015 at 8:09 am

   The report suggests those things which are contributing to good performance are actually down to resourcing, such as class sizes, rather than a new innovative way of teaching (or having non teachers) etc.

   Parata or Seymour say sit is not fair to impose a further requirement on partnership schools but her own Ministry said that Isaac’s suggestion actually aligned with what Ministry and Board is trying to achieve with the schools.
2. ropata 2

   9 October 2015 at 8:16 am

   National’s attacks on education are worse than anything in the TPPA or Dirty Politics. This is the future of our children and our society that they are playing with. What a bunch of dangerous fuckwits.
   • tracey 2.1

     9 October 2015 at 8:19 am

     Seymour told Isaac the review parameters would be revisited in July, most certainly to give her the impression the evaluation comparison might still happen. It did not.

     One of the points of the Charter Schools, as I understand it, is the supposition that they give better outcomes than state schools. So, some kind of comparison is required, in whatever form?

     Out of all the Charter Schools, does anyone know how many have a majority of students from below what we might call decile 5 homes?
     • dukeofurl 2.1.1

       9 October 2015 at 9:14 am

       It seems that the Vanguard school in South Auckland, one of the better run charter schools, still has 20% of the NCEA cohort who dont get any qualification. They dress it up a bit by talking about ‘pass rates’ but exclude those who would be eligible but arent counted to pump up the pass rate.

       This was supposed to be the be all of charter schools, they would not ‘lose the 20% of pupils who fall through the cracks’ that was supposed to be happening to our nasty state schools.
       • tracey 2.1.1.1

         9 October 2015 at 9:19 am

         I was just looking at the military School. Interestingly on their website they don’t mention getting MOE funding, only Tertiary funding and MSD funding. An oversight I am sure.
   • J Ryan 2.2

     11 October 2015 at 9:52 pm

     Give them a go. State schools have a percentage of non performing deadbeat teachers. Can’t get rid of them because of a strong union and so they rot the system and the kids they endeavour to teach. The Teachers Union is not about the children, more about their own selfless needs.
     • ropata 2.2.1

       13 October 2015 at 8:05 pm

       “selfless” 🙂

       another uneducated RWNJ lackwit
3. red-blooded 3

   9 October 2015 at 9:03 am

   Interesting to hear the head of the Education faculty at Massey criticising the ineffectiveness of the “independent” report (only ONE short on-site visit!) on Morning Report this morning and saying there should be much more stringent reviews, but also saying the promised “apples with apples” review isn’t really possible either – because the families opting to send their kids to such schools were obviously motivated and involved in their education and that doesn’t hold true for all families.

   Sorry no link – it’s not up yet.
   • tracey 3.1

     9 October 2015 at 9:20 am

     I DO think Seymour has a point about the schools being new BUT students don’t get that lee-way, they have had a year or more of education and that needs to be properly assessed. IF it comes down to school and class size, funding of staff and Boards then that is NOT a success of Charter Schools per se, but a failure by us all to get the right resources into all our schools.
4. vto 4

   9 October 2015 at 9:06 am

   far right wing people don’t see the hypocrisy

   the reason they don’t see the hypocrisy is that they simply don’t care about others so it doesn’t even hit the drawing board

   fact

   imo
5. AmaKiwi 5

   9 October 2015 at 9:08 am

   Would you do business with or work for someone who is as deceitful, lying, dishonest, and crooked as a NZ politician in power?

   We need a way to remove them from office when they act so offensively. It’s called a “recall referendum.” (Look it up on Wikipedia.)

   Let the people decide. Stop the elected dictators.
   • tracey 5.1

     9 October 2015 at 9:11 am

     Legally proving it is the issue to achieve that. Most of what Key says can be taken more than one way. That is not by accident.
     • AmaKiwi 5.1.1

       9 October 2015 at 1:58 pm

       @tracey

       You don’t have to prove anything except that the majority of voters want Joe Blow out of office.

       You get the required signatures on a petition. The referendum question is straightforward. “Should Joe Blow remain in office?” If the voters say, “No,” a new election is called.

       A cornerstone National policy is flexibility in the workplace. That’s what I want. If our employee (MP, Mayor, etc.) is not performing, his/her employers (the people) need the means to be able to fire him/her.
       • tracey 5.1.1.1

         9 October 2015 at 2:43 pm

         which section of the Act allows for a recall referendum Annakiwi?
         • AmaKiwi 5.1.1.1.1

           9 October 2015 at 9:13 pm

           @ tracey

           I don’t understand your question: “which section of the Act allows for a recall referendum Annakiwi?”

           NZ does not have recall referendums. My point is that our politicians would behave a lot better if we did.
6. tc 6

   9 October 2015 at 9:08 am

   Given the constant pummelling the eduction sector has taken since NACT rode into the treasury benches 6 guns a blazing is this any surprise.

   What is very dissapointing is the feckless opposition not taking this, novopay, national standards, leaky schools etc etc sharpening their rhetoric and opening up some wounds.
   • tracey 6.1

     9 October 2015 at 9:21 am

     Interestingly, Key is on a military photo op leaving the crew to handle the Friday Drops and other stuff.
   • Tautoko Mangō Mata 6.2

     9 October 2015 at 9:57 pm

     “Opposition MPs said the Government was throwing large sums of cash at charter schools and should be demanding that information.”
     http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/286498/charter-schools-'not-being-held-to-account‘
7. savenz 7

   9 October 2015 at 9:54 am

   +100. Charter schools are death to kids education and our way of life. In addition a good one for the opposition to be campaigning against (like Serco). But again the opposition seem missing on action on this one.

   Most Kiwis are parents, grandparents etc. Charter schools is a very mainstream issue as a point of difference.
8. Smilin 8

   9 October 2015 at 9:50 pm

   And the amount of govt money poured into the success of these charter schools when all the public state schools are always scratching for money and its left for them to find the extra or die ,out of balance to put it mildly who runs this shit system, thats right the 1% of the 10% of the richest, all for them and none for all
9. NZJester 9

   11 October 2015 at 8:40 pm

   New Zealand used to have one of the best school systems in the world designed with input from by actual teachers. National got in to power and said Teachers what do they know about education and slowly stared to impose there own ideological ideas on education. Most of those ideas came from overseas and did not work in the original countries they got tried in. The places using the ideas National was saying we should try had been envious the the system National dismantled.
   Our education system has been decimated by Nationals mismanagement and under funding.
   All that money wasted on charter schools if pumped into the regular public schools would have had just as much or even more influence of improved the grades of those same students.

• Comments are now closed

• Log in
• Donate
• Contribute post

• Articles RSS