National Council of Women open letter to John Key

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1. Julz 1

   23 April 2015 at 8:41 am

   Excellent to see the Council doing the right thing. this young woman is going to need all the support she can get.
2. Sans Cle 2

   23 April 2015 at 9:01 am

   Hear Hear.
3. Draco T Bastard 3

   23 April 2015 at 9:03 am

   This type of well-intentioned sexism might seem harmless.

   It wasn’t well intentioned. He knew that she didn’t want him to do it and yet he still did it thus it was nothing more than a power play. Him asserting his power over her.
4. just saying 4

   23 April 2015 at 9:17 am

   Yeah, not impressed with this kind of semi-apologism.
   It’s nice to bring in the wider picture, but it’s not okay to absolve Key from moral responsibilty.
   It’s not clear there was any real apology offered and I don’t think it is accurate to just assume good intentions in this or any of the many times this kind of incident happens in the wider communities. People may like to think well of themselves, but it’s mostly about what people with power believe they are able to get away with imo.
   It used to be believed that bullies, and narcisists in general, felt inadequate and were unaware of the effects of their behaviour. Most of the more recent research suggests the opposite is true.
5. Heather Grimwood 5

   23 April 2015 at 10:07 am

   Congratulations to NCW on your stance in sending and ‘broadcasting’ the contents of your letter. It emphasises real nub of the problem. May it kindle a huge much-needed reformation of attitudes and behaviour, and bring a secure and decent community for our women. Goodness knows we’ve tried for ever!!!
6. tracey 6

   23 April 2015 at 11:21 am

   A Letter that should never have to be written to a Prime Minister in 2015.
7. Heather Grimwood 7

   23 April 2015 at 12:42 pm

   Perhaps, during his Gallipoli trip he will give some thought to womens’ matyrdom too.
   • tracey 7.1

     23 April 2015 at 3:19 pm

     women??????
8. Heather Grimwood 8

   23 April 2015 at 1:38 pm

   please read ‘martyrdom’
9. Stickler 9

   23 April 2015 at 2:57 pm

   Meanwhile, what has the Minister of Women’s Affairs done? Spoken out in support of Key.

   With friends like these……

   Guess she and the waitress were both afraid of calling out the Prime Minister in case they lost their jobs. Good thing one of them found some courage.
   • Murray Rawshark 9.1

     23 April 2015 at 3:27 pm

     Tautoko.
10. Murray Rawshark 10

    23 April 2015 at 3:25 pm

    “We are disappointed to learn of your unwanted touching of a cafe worker.”

    This is not the only unfortunate phrase in this letter. Disappointed? How about outrage? Disappointment is something you feel when you expect better of someone. What reason did they have to expect better of FJK? Certainly not because he supported Cunliffe when he apologised for domestic violence. Not when he wore his stupid t-shirt that might as well have read “I’ll bash Bronagh if I feel like it.”

    I can only assume that the council is worried about government funding, which is another indictment of FJK.
11. Potato 11

    23 April 2015 at 3:42 pm

    Minister for Women Louise Upston defending Key, ‘no comment’ from other women in the Nats with one exception. Wanna guess who is sympathizing with the waitress by saying that Key has ‘overstepped the mark’ ?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/67981595/minister-for-women-standing-by-prime-minister-after-ponytail-incident
    • tracey 11.1

      23 April 2015 at 4:17 pm

      Collins is making me sick… she is distorting the image of herself and using others for political or personal gain

      she used a poor public servant’s personal detalis for a personal vendetta
      she said “a speech by Turei was “vile, wrong and ugly, just like her jacket today”
      she is no friend of vulnerable or downtrodden woman this former minister of police and justice who presided over appalling police culture toward women and cut down a Law Commission effort to bring justice to sexual violence victims.
      Her public outburst and lies about Katie Bradford?
      She is a bully who now pretends she doesn’t like bullying?
      • Potato 11.1.1

        23 April 2015 at 4:28 pm

        Agree and she’s also no friend of Key. I personally believe that when Key falls or walks away she’ll be putting herself forward to replace him.
        • tracey 11.1.1.1

          23 April 2015 at 4:40 pm

          She’s definitely using SST gig to project an image of someone that is not her
12. Heather Grimwood 12

    23 April 2015 at 4:06 pm

    To MS re wording of NCW letter: I certainly would have worded the first sentence more strongly, and think some phrases verging on deferential, BUT THE NCW ARE SUPPORTING THAT WOMAN and I applaud them for doing so.
13. prosaic 13

    23 April 2015 at 6:00 pm

    My friend Charlotte was so angry about the PM’s behaviour she wrote a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHBJ-5h0KV4
    • Potato 13.1

      23 April 2015 at 11:44 pm

      Well done to Charlotte !! Off to share on facebook 🙂
14. peterlepaysan 14

    23 April 2015 at 7:45 pm

    Actually, it is not just Key.

    National party members have a “born to rule” attitude largely based on wealth and associated “influence”.

    Both Key and Aaron Gilmore are on the same spectrum, and very close.

    It does seem a bit rich that Key cautioned his own party about third term arrogance after winning the last election.

    Ex state house kid, ex Wall Street trader, ruler of NZ, rich enough to give away the ruler’s pittance of a salary, Minister of Tourism and spends ihis “vacations” at home in Hawaiii?

    NZ is a mediaeval fiefdom we are but serfs, peasants and wenches available for the whimsw and pleasures of the aristos.

    Anyone know of good tumbril and/or guillotine makers?
    • joe90 14.1

      23 April 2015 at 8:18 pm

      textoteuses …
15. fisiani 15

    23 April 2015 at 8:37 pm

    Please keep this smear campaign going as long as possible. Obviously many posters reckon it will make people change their voting. You do not seem to realise that with every Honest John gaffe whether his pronunciation or handshake or mincing walk or beer drinking or gentle playful hair tug that the average person realises that John Key is an ordinary bloke with a few flaws doing an extraordinary job. He is not St Cunliffe. He is not like the career politicians. He does the job because he is good at it. Better than anyone else.
    • Paul 15.1

      23 April 2015 at 8:44 pm

      What would Key have to do for you to stop defending him?
      I dread to think….
16. Reddelusion 16

    23 April 2015 at 8:46 pm

    What a silly letter from a person with a silly job
    • Paul 16.1

      23 April 2015 at 8:48 pm

      What would Key have to do for you to stop defending him?
      I dread to think….
17. Reddelusion 17

    23 April 2015 at 9:57 pm

    That’s the problem Paul you don’t think…….
    • Potato 17.1

      23 April 2015 at 11:46 pm

      It was JK not thinking that started this
18. Reddelusion 18

    24 April 2015 at 12:30 am

    Not thinking I agree but hardly the crime of the century as some on this site would lead us to believe, please don’t give me this abuse of power, consent bollocks, possibly jk ain’t a bad bloke, a bit touchy feely, not thinking, naive, apologise, don’t do it again, move on unless political mileage make a mountain out of a molehill

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