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1. Paul 1

   23 April 2015 at 7:02 am

   Tony Abbott and John Key.
   Auditioning for Dumb and Dumber 3.
   • sabine 1.1

     23 April 2015 at 7:52 am

     these guys are nothing but the symptoms.

     The disease lays with the people that voted for them, the people that enable them, and the people that cover up for them.

     Greed would be the main motivator i venture to guess.
     • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1

       23 April 2015 at 9:09 am

       +1
       • weka 1.1.1.1

         23 April 2015 at 10:17 am

         +2

         however I am enjoying seeing the fallout. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
     • Merrial 1.1.2

       23 April 2015 at 10:22 pm

       @ sabine: “The disease lays with the people that voted for them, the people that enable them, and the people that cover up for them.”

       Don’t look at me: I didn’t vote for the bastards….
2. red blooded 2

   23 April 2015 at 7:31 am

   Infantile idiocy which also manages to cross the line into sexual harassment. A middle aged, entitled “joker” fingering and tugging and telling a young woman she’s enticing. Yuk!
3. irascible 3

   23 April 2015 at 7:32 am

   Cannot help but notice that the Herald’s gossip columnist, Rachel Gulicima, is attempting a “Hair today- forgotten tomorrow” line in an attempt to blow-wave her friend’s, ,John, fetish behaviour away.
   Marilyn Waring summed it up- behaviour unbecoming of a PM which breaks the law in many ways.
4. BenM 4

   23 April 2015 at 7:32 am

   Slightly off-topic, but I found this bit of the Washington Post article quite refreshing:

   ‘…when he wore a shirt that read “I’m not sorry for being a man” — a reference to a Labour politician’s speech in which he apologized for domestic violence perpetrated by men.’

   This is the first time I’ve seen Cunliffe’s speech characterised this way by any media. NZ’s awful media only ever reported that “Cunliffe is sorry he’s a man”, and refused to go into the context. When it’s reported the way Washington Post reported it — actually mentioning what the speech was about instead of cherry-picking a quote — it makes Cunliffe look a lot more reasonable.
   • Bearded Git 4.1

     23 April 2015 at 10:51 am

     @BenM Very well spotted Ben, and well done the Washington Post.

     Why did the media here not take the same line? The juvenile mischaracterisation of Cunliffe’s speech by the woman-harassing Key was one of the pivotal moments at the last election. Irony? What irony?
     • idlegus 4.1.1

       23 April 2015 at 12:32 pm

       The Guardian yesterday “Key was accused of making light of domestic violence when he was photographed wearing a T-shirt that read “I’m not sorry for being a man”, a reference to a speech made by the Labour party leader David Cunliffe at a Women’s Refuge symposium, when he apologised on behalf of his gender “because family and sexual violence is perpetrated overwhelmingly by men against women and children”. ”

       Seems to me like it was only NZ news that mis-reported the Cunliffe speech.
     • Molly 4.1.2

       23 April 2015 at 1:20 pm

       Kudos should perhaps be given to TDB, where the Washington Post no doubt investigated the story. Several times on TDB, Bradbury has pointed out the arrogance of the tshirt and the intent of Cunliffe’s comment. It is likely that the journalist read some of those items.
   • Murray Rawshark 4.2

     23 April 2015 at 3:02 pm

     When it’s reported properly, it’s obvious to me that FJK is saying that treating women like shit is OK. His actions confirm it. Key’s t-shirt is “Yeah, we bash the missus. So what?”
   • Merrial 4.3

     23 April 2015 at 10:31 pm

     @ BenM: “This is the first time I’ve seen Cunliffe’s speech characterised this way by any media.”

     Indeed. Things have come to a pretty pass when we must depend on overseas media to pick up on the context. But of course the Washington Post would get it. And of course The Herald wouldn’t.
5. amirite 5

   23 April 2015 at 7:33 am

   This
   John Key è un cretino? http://www.ilpost.it/2015/04/22/john-key-cameriera-capelli/
   • te reo putake 5.1

     23 April 2015 at 8:14 am

     The Berlusconi of the Antipodes?

     “… un gesto che ha definito offensivo e molesto”
     • felix 5.1.1

       23 April 2015 at 8:27 am

       He wishes.

       More like the David Brent of the South.
       • te reo putake 5.1.1.1

         23 April 2015 at 8:40 am

         Or Chris the sales rep … “nearly done”
         • felix 5.1.1.1.1

           23 April 2015 at 8:48 am

           oh jesus
           • greywarshark 5.1.1.1.1.1

             23 April 2015 at 11:16 am

             @ felix
             Yes, dear….?
       • swordfish 5.1.1.2

         23 April 2015 at 10:48 am

         “More like the David Brent of the South”

         We’re thinking along the same lines. That was my take on The Guardian site last night: “He’s New Zealand’s answer to David Brent.”
         • felix 5.1.1.2.1

           23 April 2015 at 11:48 am

           Sure is. All that crap he spouted yesterday about “horsing around” and how it’s cool ‘cos he has a “warm and friendly relationship” with everyone.

           I was fully expecting him to say “I’ve created an atmosphere where I’m a friend first, PM second. Probably entertainer third.”
       • swordfish 5.1.1.3

         23 April 2015 at 10:59 am

         Mind you, he probably possesses less self awareness than the Brentmeister-General.
     • ianmac 5.1.2

       23 April 2015 at 9:41 am

       Italian Post,”…un cretino” = “a cretin.”
       Oh dear.
       • te reo putake 5.1.2.1

         23 April 2015 at 9:54 am

         The comments are good, too. “non riesco a smettere di ridere.” (trans: I can’t stop laughing.)
         • Morrissey 5.1.2.1.1

           23 April 2015 at 10:03 am

           D’Annunzio’s assessment of Marinetti applies perfectly to Key: “not just a cretin, but a phosphorescent cretin” and also “un cretino con lampi di imbecillità” —- an idiot with flashes of imbecility.
   • Malconz 5.2

     23 April 2015 at 11:20 am

     Un cretino? Sì, davvero.

     But on a more sinister note, wait for the anonymous leaks about this poor woman’s sexual history to start in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2..
   • Murray Rawshark 5.3

     23 April 2015 at 3:10 pm

     All over Brazil as well:

     http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/internacional/nova-zelandia/primeiro-ministro-puxa-cabelo-de-empregada-na-brincadeira

     Aconteceu em Nova Zelândia (it happened in New Zealand) is a common saying in Brazil for something almost unbelievable, or totally ridiculous. The irony builds.
6. RedBaronCV 6

   23 April 2015 at 8:10 am

   And they will be able to follow right up with a story about the Herald’s efforts.

   Must be a lotta aussies delighted to find that some one has a prime minister as stupid as theirs.
7. miravox 7

   23 April 2015 at 8:20 am

   Meanwhile even in Austria, Neuseelands Premier is sorry…

   Kellnerin an Haaren gezogen: Neuseelands Premier entschuldigt sich
   • ianmac 7.1

     23 April 2015 at 9:58 am

     “John Key hatte eine Kellnerin wiederholt an den Haaren gezogen, um sie “zu necken”
     John key had pulled a waitress repetitive on the hair, in order it “to necken”
     Wonder what that means!
     • Hanswurst 7.1.1

       23 April 2015 at 10:40 am

       It’s like “teasing” or “ribbing” someone.
8. Dont worry. Be happy 8

   23 April 2015 at 8:35 am

   Is it legal for a journo to pretend to be some one else in order to remove any reluctance a oerson may have towards being reported?

   Is it legal for a newspaper to publish a story that has been obtained in this fashion?
9. Gosman 9

   23 April 2015 at 8:45 am

   I’m pretty sure many leftists have made similar claims in the past.
   • felix 9.1

     23 April 2015 at 8:50 am

     Which claim are you disputing?
   • Delia 9.2

     23 April 2015 at 11:19 am

     So that makes it OK? Another dim argument from the dimmer than dimmer brigade called the national voters.
10. Sans Cle 10

    23 April 2015 at 8:55 am

    Germany’s Der Spiegel

    “For him, it was just a “harmless banter”: For months, New Zealand Prime Minister John Key repeatedly pulled a waitress’ ponytail – and could not understand that he violated the woman”

    Goes on to talk about “growing outrage” in NZ
    • dukeofurl 10.1

      23 April 2015 at 9:29 am

      Thats interesting.

      Gets around the claim, “theres better things to talk about- its a left wing beatup” when the rest of the world takes time to notice.
    • Sans Cle 10.2

      23 April 2015 at 9:40 am

      Oops: Proper link, as one above defaults to Der Spiegel homepage
      http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/neuseeland-premier-john-key-und-die-pferdeschwanz-affaere-a-1030036.html
    • ianmac 10.3

      23 April 2015 at 10:01 am

      Der Spiegal: “Für ihn war es bloß eine “harmlose Neckerei”: Über Monate hinweg zog Neuseelands Premier John Key einer Kellnerin immer wieder am Pferdeschwanz – und konnte offenbar gar nicht verstehen, dass er die Frau damit verletzte.”
      “For it was bare a “harmless Neckerei”: Over months of New Zealand pulled again and again Prime Minister John key of a waitress on the horse tail – and could not understand obviously at all that he injured the woman thereby.”

      Ha ha.
      • tracey 10.3.1

        23 April 2015 at 11:54 am

        It’s like reading Glucina 😉
11. Sirenia 11

    23 April 2015 at 9:34 am

    Was even an item on the BBC radio in the middle of the night – heard by local insomniac.
12. weka 12

    23 April 2015 at 10:27 am

    Interesting how many of the headlines are about the PM’s apology and in minimising ways (making it look like he pulled her hair once), but others nail it by focussing on his behaviour.
    • vto 12.1

      23 April 2015 at 12:27 pm

      Exactly weka.

      The international reporting is highlighting the imbalances and biases of the NZ media

      The international media is showing up NZ media

      ………………………

      Mind you, that aint hard when you see Mike Hosking’s rancid pathetic attempt last night on Seven Sharp. The article was hard-hitting but when it came back to wanker Hosking he did his very utmost to minimise it and reduce it. All he could say was “I blame third term-it is”.

      Most pathetic ever
13. repateet 13

    23 April 2015 at 10:41 am

    We deserve to be a laughing stock when we have apologists for John Key on air like Sean Plunket.
14. tracey 14

    23 April 2015 at 11:53 am

    “A Laughing Stock, you say?” laughed John Key. “Oh well akshully I don’t know anything about that, I have a Blind Trust to handle all my invistmints”;
15. rawshark-yeshe 15

    23 April 2015 at 12:30 pm

    BREAKING … and I hope it goes around the world .. gotta love Graham McCready!

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/ponytail-saga-sexual-harassment-complaint-laid-against-john-key-6298530
16. Rolf 16

    23 April 2015 at 1:19 pm

    It is pretty remarkable to se how this rather unimportant event have been blown up, compared to the illegal and criminal spying in China on behalf of the USA by the Key administration. The spying is putting the entire New Zealand welfare and economy at risk, here in China they are now debating if the Free Trade agreement should be terminated, or at least suspended. Nothing is reported on that.
    • vto 16.1

      23 April 2015 at 1:27 pm

      “this rather unimportant event ”

      Nothing could be further from the truth.

      It goes right to the heart of our Prime Minister’s capability to be a Prime Minister
      It goes right to the heart of the sexism/domestic violence issues in this land
      It goes right to the heart of one-half of our population’s values and judgments.

      This is a hugely important event
      • Tracey 16.1.1

        23 April 2015 at 2:41 pm

        “It goes right to the heart of our Prime Minister’s capability to be a Prime Minister
        It goes right to the heart of the sexism/domestic violence issues in this land
        It goes right to the heart of one-half of our population’s values and judgments.”

        some things are worth repeating. well said brother!
        • mac1 16.1.1.1

          24 April 2015 at 12:18 am

          Absolutely on the money, vto.

          I’ve been arguing the first two propositions in Facebook.

          The negative response from many is down to the third.
    • Murray Rawshark 16.2

      23 April 2015 at 3:15 pm

      I sort of agree, Rolf. It is an indictment of the Kiwi psyche, but if it helps get rid of Key, I can see a silver lining. There will be slightly more chance of controlling the US spies whose salries we pay once the Hawaiian has gone.
17. Kay 17

    23 April 2015 at 1:19 pm

    I can report that my Danish friend is aware of said scandal via her local media, as well as BBC World.
    But she is also very upset that her local media seem more concerned with that sort of news story when there are worse things going on in the world (Sound familiar?) Specifically, the situation with African refugees drowning in their attempt to get to Europe.

    I had to assure her that we do know what’s going on in the Mediterranean, and most of us do care, but for the many NZers who have been screwed over so badly by JK, this is our opportunity to see a narssicistic psychopath be totally humiliated on a global scale, so let us have our time of laughing hysterically. In the event that somehow he wriggles his way out of this, at least I’ve enjoyed a few days of karma.
18. emergency mike 18

    23 April 2015 at 4:52 pm

    John Key is now the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to New Zealand. Nothing else comes close.

    He is an international and national laughing stock.
    • rawshark-yeshe 18.1

      23 April 2015 at 7:38 pm

      Dannevirke boy Sir Joh Bjelke Petersen came a close second as premier of Queensland .. a real crook.

      Columnist Phillip Adams, comparing Sir Joh with Peter Sellers’ character, the moronic Chance, in the movie, Being There: “Both (Joh and Ronald Reagan) have visions as limited as their vocabularies, yet both these grotesque garden gnomes are seen as colossi by their deluded followers. The louder we laughed at them, the more powerful they became. The more improbable their careers, the more certain their ascendancy.”

      Former ALP national president Barry Jones: “He is the Ayatollah of the north: How can you have an open debate in the Kafka-like atmosphere of secrecy and cronyism of Joh-style politics?”

      http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Quotable-quotes/2005/04/23/1114152360479.html

      Bjelke-Petersen was a divisive Queensland premier and earned himself a reputation as a “law and order” politician with his repeated use of police force against street demonstrators[4] and strongarm tactics with trade unions, leading to frequent descriptions of Queensland under his leadership as a police state. From 1987 his administration came under the scrutiny of a royal commission into police corruption and its links with state government ministers; Bjelke-Petersen was unable to recover from the series of damaging findings and after initially resisting a party vote that replaced him as leader, resigned from politics on 1 December 1987. Two of his state ministers, as well as the police commissioner Bjelke-Petersen had appointed and later knighted, were jailed for corruption offences and in 1991 Bjelke-Petersen, too, was tried for perjury over his evidence to the royal commission; the jury failed to reach a verdict and Bjelke-Petersen was deemed too old to face a second trial.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joh_Bjelke-Petersen
19. Gerald 19

    23 April 2015 at 5:30 pm

    Well she was only a serving wench in JKs eyes.
20. Michael Morris 20

    23 April 2015 at 6:56 pm

    At least news hasn’t reached China yet. I would hate my Chinese students to think all middle aged New Zealand men in positions of power are bullying sleazes.
21. emergency mike 21

    23 April 2015 at 7:23 pm

    I have previously commented that if and when Paula Bennett became PM of NZ we would reclaim the ‘Bledisloe Stupidity Trophy’ that Australia won from us when they elected Tony Abbott.

    But John Key has pounced and taken it back. Big time. Your move Tony.
    • Paul 21.1

      23 April 2015 at 8:53 pm

      Abbott and Key are off auditioning for Dumb and Dumber 3.
22. Reddelusion 22

    23 April 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Big deal all fish and chip paper tomorrow, seen far worse from many world leaders, You lefties really are a precious sanctimonious lot. For god sake he pulled a pony tail and apologies, far less than Gareth Hughes did who just ran away and hid, protected by his lefties mate
    • Paul 22.1

      23 April 2015 at 8:51 pm

      What would Key have to do for you to stop defending him?
      I dread to think….
    • vto 22.2

      23 April 2015 at 8:58 pm

      ” For god sake he pulled a pony tail ”

      No he didn’t

      idiot

      stupid idiot

      intentionally stupid idiot
    • idlegus 22.3

      23 April 2015 at 9:23 pm

      ‘gareth’ hughes? you sure about that? do all ‘lefties’ look alike to you or something?
    • sabine 22.4

      23 April 2015 at 9:37 pm

      every week Fridays and Saturdays, while I come whith my husband for a coffee, I follow you up to the counter and then when you can’t back out, I grab your balls and twist n squeeze cause I am just horsing around. And when you tell my husband that I should stop, I shall do it againt, just because….and when you speak to your manager, i shall twist n squeeze a bit harder, you know just horsing around.
      what you are trying to get a way from me when I come for coffee….? Oh, come one its not like your the guy i call prince? I just cop a little twist n squeeze, your just a waiter in my local, and hey….whos gonna give ya credit.
      Oh okai then, you really don’t like me fondling your balls with a wee twist n squeeze? Here have two bottles cheap as piss from my Trust Fund Vineyard. That should help you when ya get home to come to grips with me twisnt n squeezin yer balls. As Mike hoskins already said…yer just a selfish waiter, what is so wrong about horsing around, just a wee twist n squeeze yer balls every now and then, mate it’s normal office behaviour. The minister for Men just said that.
      Oh ….that thing with the pictures of me squeezing n twisting the privates of little boys under 13….nah that too is just horsing around.

      You are a pathetic lickspittle
23. Reddelusion 23

    23 April 2015 at 9:59 pm

    Strange fantasy Sabine, get some help
    • Colonial Rawshark 23.1

      24 April 2015 at 12:34 am

      It’s John Key who’s been acting out his strange fantasies mate, please keep up
24. sabine 24

    23 April 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Red delusion, it is a strange fantasy indeed.
    Let’s change the story back to the little girls in school nuniforms having their hair fondled and tugged by the PM (and there is ample photographic evidence of him doing it) , and the confirmed story about the PM fondling and tugging the Ponytail of a young waitress – even while in company with his wife and security detail, even after complaints were made to the wife, the security detail and the manager, and I would agree with you, that this tugging of the hair is a strage fantasy or fetish indeed.
    And it would not even be an issue, if the Prime Minister of New Zealand would have hired someone to let him fondle their Ponytail, or if he would have soughtt consent of the young waitress, or the little girls in school uniforms. But he did not. And I agree with you, that John Key the Prime Minister of New Zealand or anyone else should indeed seek medical help to help him or them controll his or their urges when in public dealing with people that are too young to consent, or that are in a postion where laudly refusing or slapping someone away might not be possible. – Abuse of power you see?

    Anyways, You have finally said something that is human. But then you might not like the idea that someone would just come up and touch you in inapropriate ways without your consent.
25. Reddelusion 25

    24 April 2015 at 12:10 am

    Sabine You sure have read a lot into This event , Interesting, I think it may say more about you than jk, possibly any way that you can portray jk traits ie been successful, been easy going etc as been bad helps lift your self esteem or lack of. Even better a nice bit of transference, it’s not about me it’s the poor kiddies and the powerless I stand up for, how pathetic. Maybe just maybe jk just pulled her pony tail with no evil intent or malice beyond niavity of all the sickos out their like you who are desperate to read more into it for their own gratification or self esteem
    • Colonial Rawshark 25.1

      24 April 2015 at 12:36 am

      Sabine You sure have read a lot into This event

      John Key has a fetish for girls hair. Its been seen many times on the record. This is not a one off event. Why are you protecting him?
      • Potato 25.1.1

        24 April 2015 at 1:01 am

        Indeed. The more photos that appear, the creepier it gets.
26. Reddelusion 26

    24 April 2015 at 12:45 am

    If true, so what, can think of a lot worth fetishers or traits, ie pathological, irrational hate of one man for one is a goody
27. veutoviper 27

    24 April 2015 at 8:32 am

    Another overseas newspaper article/headline to add to the list. Ouch!

    Swiss paper NZZ headlined their article with a picture of Key with Kate Middleton last year captioned “He did not dare do it here”

    https://twitter.com/GeoffMillerNZ/status/590899300210765825

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