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National’s Standards

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It’s great to see Chris Hipkins abolishing ‘National Standards’ as a matter of priority. This policy was nothing but an unfortunate bit of populism from the previous government, and a Prime Minister in John Key who specialised in band-aid solutions to problems that required stitches.

While it may have made some people feel better that it looked like action was being taken on literacy and numeracy in Primary Schools, in practice National Standards were more hindrance than help.

The policy stigmatised children with disabilities and learning difficulties, it narrowed the curriculum and worst of all it put too much focus on measuring and labelling instead of things that can make a real difference.

Just because I can measure how bad I am at golf by looking at my handicap, and by feeling the sting of it being the maximum number possible, doesn’t mean I can do much to improve it without some intensive one-on-one coaching from a pretty amazing teacher.

Which brings us to the real problem in education. There are lots of pretty amazing teachers out there but we need to attract more. And I would strongly argue that it’s hard to achieve this when the starting salary for a teacher with a Bachelor’s degree is $48,000 and there are plenty of less stressful jobs out there that pay more.

It would certainly take more than that to convince me to spend my working life trying to impart knowledge onto other people’s children in groups of thirty plus at a time.

It’s by no means a less stressful job, but Police start on $56,000 and have their training fully funded so aren’t starting with a student loan. Having good dedicated motivated and talented teachers should be just as high a priority for us as a country as good dedicated motivated and talented cops.

In fact, more of one could lead to needing less of the other.

You also need to provide the best possible learning environment for children and that means better teacher student ratios to allow more specialised help as well as smaller class sizes.

It’s not rocket science. Those are the problems that need addressing if we are serious about lifting educational achievement. They are more expensive than just giving everyone a test and hoping for the best. But hey, you get what you pay for right?

74 comments on “National’s Standards ”

  1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

    band-aid solutions to problems that required stitches.

    Nope: in this case the lying lowlife invented a problem that didn’t exist at all.

    WHEN SEVEN EQUALS 20

    20% – children Anne Tolley says are failing
    16% – the actual number who failed NCEA in 2009. Of these:

    -6% – students who are capable of passing NCEA but chose not to try
    -3% – students with multiple disabilities who can’t pass
    7% = students who could pass but don’t…

  2. Stuart Munro 2

    There is probably significant institutional reform overdue in teaching, and it would be good to borrow a bit more from best practice. Which is Scandinavia.

    Small chance of my hobby horse getting a run – peer tuition. Lifts results by two orders of magnitude. Not expensive. Never mind.

    • Stunned Mullet 2.1

      A number of high schools in Auckland have active peer tutoring programmes – and you are correct they are very effective.

    • greywarshark 2.2

      A hobby horse of mine would give effective outcomes. We have a rich resource in we older people, some of whom will have been ‘kept’ by the government and not expected to do anything for a third of their lives if they live to about 99.

      If each one that was suitable could mentor a child through school for half to an hour a day, the country would boost its rate of initiative by 200% plus, it being rather low at present.

      There isn’t much demand for cow-like stares in the world, which is what comes from the broad mass of the populace especially the older ones. So more clever cows with less of them on the fields, and less bovine humans in the suburbs and rural areas, and we could be world winners.

      Nutty eh!

      • Stuart Munro 2.2.1

        It could work well, I notice U3A is very popular down here. Maybe we could even aim for something along the lines of Japan’s lifelong learning program – knowledge circulating in communities gets expressed in surprising ways.

        • greywarshark 2.2.1.1

          Thanks Stuart I like your ideas.
          And I apologise to all older people who resent the cow-like stares bit. I was just venting at the so often complacent retired generation that I know and which possibly form a great part of the National Party’s conservative, self-centred base who don’t want their boat (cruise ship) rocked.

  3. It’s by no means a less stressful job, but Police start on $56,000 and have their training fully funded so aren’t starting with a student loan. Having good dedicated motivated and talented teachers should be just as high a priority for us as a country as good dedicated motivated and talented cops.

    It’s a function of demand.

    Police total employees (p7): 13,787
    Teaching total staff: 55,020 (excel link but I don’t know if it will work)

    The more people required for a job the less they will be paid. This, apparently, applies across the board and is the complete opposite of what economics tells us.

    • greywarshark 3.1

      I wonder what economics says about the fact that teachers have separate individuals with different variables to which a standardised set of details has to be extended with a variable outcome according to a number of factors, weather, food and energy output, controlled use of brain, parental urgings or not, etc. and for politicians as well as parents there is a lot of delayed gratification.

      Then police look for certain characteristics and are more likely to result in having suitable candidates to send to courtroom or jail. In economic terms that is I suppose a success rate, and each one ‘spoken to’ and discharged is a failure.

    • Enzo 3.2

      It’s also worth noting that the police are male dominated while teachers are female dominated.

      • greywarshark 3.2.1

        Yes the research has tended to indicate that male and female dominated sectors are viewed differently so that could well be a factor.

  4. Chris 4

    I will wait to see what they are replacing it with before getting to excited.

    NS was by no means perfect and needed a massive overhaul but some sort of gauge of where your child is out comparative to the average is IMO quite useful

    IN TANDEM WITH THE TEACHER’S EVALUATION AND OPINION.

    • …but some sort of gauge of where your child is out comparative to the average is IMO quite useful

      Only if you want to destroy some children’s belief in themselves. If you need to divide the community into haves and have-nots.

      • Ed 4.1.1

        ‘Only if you want to destroy some children’s belief in themselves’

        That was the intended result.

      • Chris 4.1.2

        How exactly does it destroy their belief in themselves?

        Are you saying their teachers will give them crap or announce it to the class?

        Because the vast vast majority of parents wouldnt and will just have an idea of what they need to help them with at home in conjunction with the teachers ideas

        • The Fairy Godmother 4.1.2.1

          Except National Standards were very broad and only told you if your child was working below at or above the standard. They didn’t tell you what specific thing they were working on.

          • Chris 4.1.2.1.1

            Agreed

            Which is why I said it needed overhauling

            But I have yet to hear a reason why having a form of it suddenly means you can’t have the teachers evaluation

            Forgive me if people think it is stupid, but in my opinion having a gauge AND a teachers evaluation of your child is ideal to know both how the teacher is going to progress with your child and things you can also help with, that you can actually trust and understand the end goals.

            And no. I am not saying teachers are shit with the trust comment

            • The Fairy Godmother 4.1.2.1.1.1

              Which is what we had before National Standards. Pre National Standards had far more useful information that ns ones. My child was simply reported as well above standards. I felt she was disadvantaged over her brother and sister who weren’t in the ns era because I felt ns encouraged teachers to teach to the middle and get the ones just below the standard above it leaving less time for children at the other ends of the scale.

              • mpledger

                “Well above standard” wasn’t an official NS term – there was only well below, below, at and above. That was part of the problem – the gifted kids got ignored,

                It would be interesting to see if our drop in international tests was because the whole group moved down, the tail-end dropped or the high end dropped. I’m betting on the latter.

            • cathy 4.1.2.1.1.2

              the thing is, children mature at different rates, same as they grow at different rates.

              children that young should not be measured against an arbitrary average but against their own potential, which the teacher who knows the kid can do but national standards cannot.

              like “could do better” means something different in each case depending on what the kid is capable of

              and national standards were meaningless because there was not enough funding to staff our schools adequately, let alone all the other reasons

        • One Anonymous Bloke 4.1.2.2

          How exactly does it destroy their belief in themselves?

          By measuring them to such a narrow “standard”.

          The fact is, National’s changes to education policy are designed with one goal in mind: the wholesale privatisation of the education system and the destruction of teachers’ unions.

          That’s why they copy right wing US “policies” rather than apolitical Finnish ones.

          It’s the only explanation that makes sense.

        • Draco T Bastard 4.1.2.3

          How exactly does it destroy their belief in themselves?

          By telling them that they’re failures.

          Are you saying their teachers will give them crap or announce it to the class?

          It’s going to be on their reports. That’s what anything below and ‘A’ is – a failure according to the limited measurements of National Standards.

          Because the vast vast majority of parents wouldnt and will just have an idea of what they need to help them with at home in conjunction with the teachers ideas

          The vast majority of parents seem to be a bunch of ignorant schmucks that never talk to the child’s teachers. They just want the same, simple and failed system that they had at school. This is what National Standards provided.

          What it didn’t do was provide any information about how best to help the child.

          • Chris 4.1.2.3.1

            So in your world parents walk around saying their kids are failures if they aren’t great at something.

            I think I’ll avoid your world

            • Draco T Bastard 4.1.2.3.1.1

              No, that’s what grades do. It’s what National Standards do.

              The Case Against Grades

              The Effects of Grading

              Most of the criticisms of grading you’ll hear today were laid out forcefully and eloquently anywhere from four to eight decades ago (Crooks, 1933; De Zouche, 1945; Kirschenbaum, Simon, & Napier, 1971; Linder, 1940; Marshall, 1968), and these early essays make for eye-opening reading. They remind us just how long it’s been clear there’s something wrong with what we’re doing as well as just how little progress we’ve made in acting on that realization.

              In the 1980s and ‘90s, educational psychologists systematically studied the effects of grades. As I’ve reported elsewhere (Kohn, 1999a, 1999b, 1999c), when students from elementary school to college who are led to focus on grades are compared with those who aren’t, the results support three robust conclusions:

              * Grades tend to diminish students’ interest in whatever they’re learning. A “grading orientation” and a “learning orientation” have been shown to be inversely related and, as far as I can tell, every study that has ever investigated the impact on intrinsic motivation of receiving grades (or instructions that emphasize the importance of getting good grades) has found a negative effect.

              * Grades create a preference for the easiest possible task. Impress upon students that what they’re doing will count toward their grade, and their response will likely be to avoid taking any unnecessary intellectual risks. They’ll choose a shorter book, or a project on a familiar topic, in order to minimize the chance of doing poorly — not because they’re “unmotivated” but because they’re rational. They’re responding to adults who, by telling them the goal is to get a good mark, have sent the message that success matters more than learning.

              * Grades tend to reduce the quality of students’ thinking. They may skim books for what they’ll “need to know.” They’re less likely to wonder, say, “How can we be sure that’s true?” than to ask “Is this going to be on the test?” In one experiment, students told they’d be graded on how well they learned a social studies lesson had more trouble understanding the main point of the text than did students who were told that no grades would be involved. Even on a measure of rote recall, the graded group remembered fewer facts a week later (Grolnick and Ryan, 1987).

              Research on the effects of grading has slowed down in the last couple of decades, but the studies that are still being done reinforce the earlier findings. For example, a grade-oriented environment is associated with increased levels of cheating (Anderman and Murdock, 2007), grades (whether or not accompanied by comments) promote a fear of failure even in high-achieving students (Pulfrey et al., 2011), and the elimination of grades (in favor of a pass/fail system) produces substantial benefits with no apparent disadvantages in medical school (White and Fantone, 2010). More important, no recent research has contradicted the earlier “big three” findings, so those conclusions still stand.

              Grades Do More Harm Than Good

              For decades, grades have been the primary form of communicating and reflecting student mastery. A myth that has taken hold, but ironically no one thinks grades are able to communicate learning with any sort of accuracy or consistency. Teachers feel compelled to “grade,” (the verb form) any and all student work, believing that a letter or percentage will indicate to students and parents a measure of skill. Students feel conditioned to only pursue summative values and to get “As and Bs” to make mom and dad happy. Parents feel reliant upon teachers to instruct, assess, and communicate learning outcomes through the assignment of grades.

              Thing is, the fact that grading of students is detrimental has been known for decades. Since long before I was born and yet we still use them and National doubled down on the failure.

    • The Fairy Godmother 4.2

      National Standards was great for selfish individuals with a bit of money who don’t care about any children other than their own. This way they don’t have to pay anymore in taxes to make our schools good for all children and if their little precious is not at the working above expectations level it alerts them to the need to pay for tutoring.

      • In Vino 4.2.1

        +1 Good analysis.
        Not many people get to actually care about other people’s children the way teachers do.
        This makes the teacher unions very unpopular with the profit-gouging set.

      • ropata 4.2.2

        +1 Also, the school league tables were offensive and wrong on every level.

    • greywarshark 4.3

      Yes good Chris, but it should mean that the child has room to excel at what is really interesting to them – as well as – getting the basics. I have heard that the rigid factory results required by NatStand has forced teachers to be economical with the truth with some kids.

      Old saying, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Some children are just not able to study, and act out, and help needs to be available to keep those kids on track, and have them enjoying their little successes at school, even if they don’t get much positive from home. I would like to see the simple personal psychological management practice of transactional analysis taught at school, which enables kids to handle their times of upset by recognising their own state and knowing how to remediate it.

      Teaching should be able to be more wide reaching, getting the kids primed up to do their favourite things by ensuring they attend to the basics, sort of like having pudding after the veg. Probably some teachers will be able to get double the results that the kids have at present.

    • repateet 4.4

      And the main thing about it being some sort of gauge of where your child is comparative to the average and that being ‘useful’, is that you can go to your workplace or club and brag about how great your kid is. If they’re classed as well above average.
      Or be smug and walk taller knowing your kid is so capable. If she’s classed as well above average.
      And if you don’t have that satisfaction because your kid is not classed as well above average or at expected levels, you can complain about teachers being hopeless.

  5. roy 5

    And for the video featuring Ill Bill ‘rapping’ about it…

  6. Ad 6

    Enzo surely with a Labour-led government and one of the last powerful union near-monopolies around, and a surplus on the government books like we haven’t seen in a bit, teachers should be able to get a major pay rise this term?

    • dv 6.1

      If they want teachers in Ak schools that will have to be a given.

    • aom 6.2

      Don’t be an prick Ad. Go get yourself qualified as a teacher and bust your arse for a teacher’s wages with long hours and very challenging work days. Bet you won’t then tell the union you don’t want their support, expertise, training assistance and hard won but meagre improvements in pay and conditions. Not likely though eh? Better to support the likes of National Standards and throw stones at the teacher’s unions, even though they predictably said theygoing down that track would compromise the country’s international rankings.

  7. funstigator 7

    I think it’s a bad move. I & other parents from our school found it a useful tool – the class teacher was uninterested/incapable/not supported in maths teaching and NS showed this up, giving us the ability to get remedial in. How many commenters in this thread are parents of primary level children I wonder?

    • dv 7.1

      the class teacher was uninterested/incapable/not supported in maths teaching and NS showed this up,

      I assume the ‘uninterested/incapable/not supported’ teacher did the NS evaluation.

      So how can you be sure the grades were accurate?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 7.2

      It’s a great move: chucking out ignorance based-drivel. Just so long as they replace it with sound pedagogy and ignore the politically-motivated whinging from people who know jack shit about learning.

      As a parent, I think people who vandalise our education system for money – yes, that’s what this is about: privatisation – belong in court, defending themselves against charges of attacking children.

      Look at the top comment on this post: the policy was based on lies in the first place. When you believe lies the problem is you. Sharpen up.

  8. ianmac 8

    “You also need to provide the best possible learning environment for children and that means better teacher student ratios to allow more specialised help as well as smaller class sizes.”
    Good point ENZO. Smaller classes are necessary to facilitate good learning practice. The bigger the class the more necessary it becomes to mass teach rather than individualise according to need. Think about those very bright kids who sink into sleepiness from lack of specific assistance.
    (If big class teaching techniques are still being used when given smaller classes, the kids are no better off. Adapt.)

  9. Grantoc 9

    Hipkins blames National Standards for poor educational outcomes in the primary school sector.

    However National Standards are not responsible for these poor educational outcomes. Standards are designed to measure outcomes. They are not over arching educational strategies or philosophies or learning methodologies or educational systems designed to educate children. They measure how well these elements are performing.

    If educational outcomes in primary school are not what they ‘should’ be then that is the fault of the systems that are in place to educate children. Standards are not designed to educate children, they exist to measure the effectiveness of those systems that actually do educate children.

    Hipkins is using the standards as a whipping boy for poor educational systems. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    • ropata 9.1

      Funny that the NZEI is completely opposed to everything you just said. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

      https://www.nzei.org.nz/NZEI/Media/News_public/2017/Briefing_to_the_Incoming_Minister.aspx

      • Grantoc 9.1.1

        Roparta

        Well I must be saying the right things then. I have little regard for the teacher unions – they strike me as only being interested in protecting the apparent ‘rights’ pf their members.

        They are in my opinion conservative, rigidly ideological and actually, sadly, largely opposed to new developments in educational thinking and practice.

        • ianmac 9.1.1.1

          That is so wrong. Very few teachers go to Union meetings. There is no direction from the union. The teachers provide feedback to the union who represent those views. What has happened over the last nine years is that restrictive ideology has been imposed on what had been a progressive innovative teaching force. Teachers don’t teach for the pay.

          • Grantoc 9.1.1.1.1

            Ianmac

            However they probably have a record of going on strike for pay more so than any other group of unionised workers. And too bad about the disruption to children’s education and parents expectations.

            What was one of their first requests/demands of Hipkens when he took on the mantle of Minister of Education a few weeks ago? Why a pay increase – 5% I think it was.

            Pay and conditions are clearly a prominent factor in their thinking.

            • millsy 9.1.1.1.1.1

              Last time I looked, I could count the amount of times teacher went on strike over the past 30 years on one hand, and have plenty of fingers left over.

        • ropata 9.1.1.2

          You didn’t read the link did you. You have no idea what teachers do. When were you kicked out of school? 1976?

    • Ian 9.2

      This is Hipkins moment and it will be his downfall. He has been totally sucked in by the teachers union that is backing lazy,incompetent teachers.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 9.2.1

        They’re all Marxists too. They’ll be seizing all the private schools any day now. Better get your inbred mokos to Randistan quick!

      • ropata 9.2.2

        Public schools are just education camps for the revolution, giving young Kiwis hope for the future. Those bastard teachers. /sarc

        • In Vino 9.2.2.1

          Ian
          You need an apostrophe after teachers (teachers’ unions – OK?) unless you are happy to be a lazy, incompetent writer. Think about an apostrophe for Hipkins as well – how would you insert it? (It is needed there too.)
          Over 80% of teachers belong to and support their unions. No, they are not protecting the incompetent. Nobody likes picking up the extra work that incompetent teachers cause others to get. In my experience, over 80% of the best teachers and over 80% of those who should not be teaching all belong to the union. I have known a few really good teachers who did not like the union. I have also known a few duds who also refused to join the union.
          Your view is that of someone who knows very little about it all, as I see it.

          • Ian 9.2.2.1.1

            Your rambling nonsence is hard to decipher. I have had a lot to do with teachers over many years and have a great respect for
            good teachers. I have no respect for unioinised ,brainwashed fuckwits that put their personal aspirations ahead of their students.

            • ropata 9.2.2.1.1.1

              Yes everybody went to school Ian.

            • In Vino 9.2.2.1.1.2

              Ian – you have revealed that you are not a good reader. The word is nonsense, not the silly way you spelt it. I just told you that 80+% of good teachers support their union, but you claim to know otherwise.
              Should anyone have any respect for the crap that you are writing?

            • repateet 9.2.2.1.1.3

              And of the teachers you have had a lot to do with, how many were unionised, brainwashed fuckwits who put their personal aspirations ahead of their students? How was that exhibited?

              How welcome do you think “unionised, brainwashed fuckwits who put their personal aspirations ahead of their students” are amongst their colleagues?

            • tracey 9.2.2.1.1.4

              I have no respect for individually contracted, brainwashed fuckwits that put their personal financial and career aspirations ahead of their students.

            • greywarshark 9.2.2.1.1.5

              Ian – You missed the ‘some of my best friends are teachers’ line. That’s a popular one to throw into an argument to make some sort of illusory point. Of the type that you specialise in.

      • JanM 9.2.3

        Spouting that sort of tripe is simply feeding into the devious plot to downgrade the professionalism of teachers to make them the powerless servants of neoliberalism. They were meant to produce, not the creative reflective citizens who were able to make our world a better place, but ‘factory fodder’.
        The unintended consequence of this has been, of course, that teaching is no longer an attractive profession for the people with the intelligence and education to enter, so we have an impending crisis of numbers.
        Well done!!!

    • ianmac 9.3

      “However National Standards are not responsible for these poor educational outcomes. Standards are designed to measure outcomes….”
      Fair comment if only the National Standards did that. Well they don’t.
      Like saying which street is best? Rather depends on the criteria, who is judging, and how they are to be compared to others. That street is best but, but, but….

    • Stuart Munro 9.4

      It’s surprising how much what you measure becomes what you do. Conforming to arbitrarily or worse, interestedly set standards will sabotage any non-standard strategies like tailoring lessons to a class or optimizing for acquisition or deep processing.

      I’ve spent a lot of time teaching in Korea, where measurement is required for every little thing. They spend more per capita on ELT than almost any other country, and for worse results. Try to run a little productive practice as an add-on and they demand assessment – which traumatizes the students and eats all your free time ensuring an objective measure.

  10. greywarshark 10

    The systems in education are set up as a way of educating the children. The National Standards set up a narrow pathway which was closely monitored and all children had to follow it.

    The authorities decided that concentrating on the NS and the pathways to it was the most important part of education. If the children could not learn the required exercises, or rote learn, then they were not regarded as educated. The NS were very restrictive as all were expected to advance together like a herd.

    Children who didn’t enjoy the restrictive NS teaching learned less than they would have normally because so much of the other subjects could not be taught until they had achieved the required NS. The answer is to keep teaching across the curriculum and give extra tutoring to help them understand the concepts for what replaces NS.

  11. Incognito 11

    National Standards was a restrictive straitjacket that prescribed a narrow normative model (one size fits all) that teachers and children had to conform to. It was about power & control; no wonder that National loved it so much, as if it was tailor-made for them …

    • tracey 11.1

      It was a throwback to 50 years ago and was doomed to failure in the world today which bears no resemblance to that of yester-yore. Of course there are bad and lazy teachers. There are those in all professions. That is a giant red herring.

  12. James 12

    It seems to me, reading through the comments that most of the anti NS feeling is ideological and partisan. I have 4 children, a 20yo, currently a student at MIT and went through the NCEA system. a 7yo girl, 9yo boy and a 3yo girl.
    As an involved parent in my children’s education and life, it has been an interesting journey so far. The NCEA system is deeply flawed and promoted mediocrity and an almost “anyone can pass” attitude from the schools, low on credits in one subject make them up somewhere else. Everyone’s a winner and even the most lazy 16 and 17yo’s in the south Auckland school my oldest son attended “achieved”.
    The NS was a good way to measure where my younger two were at in relation to the rest of the kids in the country and was easy to see where we needed to do more work with our children at home as well as where the teachers need to direct that child. My 9yo boy is a high functioning Autistic student and has for his entire life been below NS for his age group, until a few months ago where he made the NS in reading for the first time.
    Above Draco said “Only if you want to destroy some children’s belief in themselves. If you need to divide the community into haves and have-nots.”
    This is rubbish, as at no time was my son made to feel like a have not because he was below nation standards. We simply put more time into his subjects that he was behind in. with my 7yo daughter she has been above and below NS and we have worked with her teacher on individual plans.
    I truly believe that any fall in education standards is not due the NS as NS is only a measure.

    • Robert Guyton 12.1

      The effects of requiring this particular measure, National Standards, has contributed to the recent fall in education standards, no question about it.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 12.2

      Who cares what you believe? Children should be taught on the basis of sound pedagogy, not your reckons.

      The only comment you need to read to understand the issue is at 4.1.2.3.1.1.

      • James 12.2.1

        Geez OAB, a bit harsh there… And hard to make out what your saying “Who cares what you believe? Children should be taught on the basis of sound pedagogy, not your reckons.”
        As you are a parent, is it NS that is making them not achieve, your parenting, the curriculum or the teacher? Also if your children are achieving well is that measured against NS or your idea of where the child should be.
        Is it OK to have an opinion that is not so ideologically aligned with yours?
        As a foot note, I spent my school life in the late 70’s and 80’s split between a Rudolf Steiner school (I was living next door to and went to school with Jeanette Fitzsimons and her children) and State school, both had their merits and drawbacks.
        But the real world is not all flowers and honey unlike my childhood growing up on a farm with hippy parents and an “off the grid lifestyle”.

        • tracey 12.2.1.1

          The real world comes in many guises and does not conform to one perspective. By all means consider NS has been a success for your children. Another possibility is the teaching has been a success for your children and tgat NS was a method by which you coukd acknowledge it cos you didnt trust it was competent before NS?

          Individual plans, btw, are not unique to NS. They existed before as an integral part of teaching.

          You appear to conflate reporting to you against an external measure of “normal” with advancing your child’s learning.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 12.2.1.2

          As a parent, my children travel across bridges, therefore civil engineers should take my reckons into account in their calculations.

          No? And poof! There goes the whole “parental anxiety trumps expertise” argument.

          The National Party creates a constituency for its education policies greedy vandalism by appealing to parental anxiety. Sharpen up.

          Edit: Is it OK to have an opinion that is not so ideologically aligned with yours?

          Sure it is. I am a self-described nobody – my reckons have no value whatsoever. I’m just not sure that pedagogy is ideology but.

          • tracey 12.2.1.2.1

            Nice to point out a difference between ideology and pedagogy. Something Nats struggle with despite having a chief science advisor

    • tracey 12.3

      Where is he in non reading areas?

      You know the work you did with the teacher? Multiply that by the number of children in tge class. Imagine most of your class has english as a second language. Now think about those individual plans and working with each set of parents etc… none of which is time spent preparing lessons and teaching, going to meetings, doing duty.

  13. greywarshark 13

    teachers who have supportive family up till now may spend evening hours up till 11 pm working on keeping up with NS requirements. Most will like to put that time into planning interesting new lesson plans that will be enjoyed and advance the children through their age-specific learning.

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    12 hours ago
  • Face to face meeting delivers significant progress on NZ-UK FTA
    New Zealand and the UK have committed to accelerating their free trade agreement negotiations with the aim of reaching an agreement in principle this August, Trade Minister Damien O’Connor announced. “We’ve held constructive and productive discussions towards the conclusion of a high-quality and comprehensive FTA that will support sustainable and inclusive trade, and ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government taking action to protect albatross
    New population figures for the critically endangered Antipodean albatross showing a 5 percent decline per year highlights the importance of reducing all threats to these very special birds, Acting Minister of Conservation Dr Ayesha Verrall says. The latest population modelling, carried out by Dragonfly Data Science, shows the Antipodean albatross ...
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    2 days ago
  • Adoption laws under review
    New Zealand’s 66-year-old adoption laws are being reviewed, with public engagement beginning today.  Justice Minister Kris Faafoi said the Government is seeking views on options for change to our adoption laws and system. “The Adoption Act has remained largely the same since 1955. We need our adoption laws to reflect ...
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    2 days ago
  • Wider roll-out of cameras on boats to support sustainability and protect marine life
    Up to 300 inshore commercial fishing vessels will be fitted with on-board cameras by 2024 as part of the Government’s commitment to protect the natural marine environment for future generations.  Minister for Oceans and Fisheries David Parker today announced the funding is now in place for the wider roll out ...
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    3 days ago
  • Plan for vaccine rollout for general population announced
    New Zealanders over 60 will be offered a vaccination from July 28 and those over 55 from August 11, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. The rollout of the vaccine to the general population will be done in age groups as is the approach commonly used overseas, with those over ...
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    3 days ago
  • New Zealand introduces Belarus travel bans
    New Zealand has imposed travel bans on selected individuals associated with the Lukashenko regime, following ongoing concerns about election fraud and human rights abuses after the 2020 Belarus elections, Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta has announced. The ban covers more than fifty individuals, including the President and key members of ...
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    3 days ago
  • NZ economy grows driven by households, construction and business investment
    The Government’s efforts to secure the recovery have been reflected in the robust rebound of GDP figures released today which show the economy remains resilient despite the ongoing impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Grant Robertson said. GDP increased 1.6 percent in the first three months of 2021. The Treasury had ...
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    3 days ago
  • Milestone 250th tower continues to improve rural connectivity
    The Government has welcomed the completion of the 250th 4G mobile tower, as part of its push for better rural connectivity. Waikato’s Wiltsdown, which is roughly 80 kilometres south of Hamilton, is home to the new tower, deployed by the Rural Connectivity Group to enable improved service to 70 homes ...
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    3 days ago
  • Quarantine Free Travel pause with Victoria to lift on Tuesday
    Following a further public health assessment of the COVID-19 outbreak in greater Melbourne, New Zealand’s Quarantine Free Travel pause with Victoria has been extended to 11.59pm on Tuesday 22 June, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says. It has been determined that the risk to public health in New Zealand continues ...
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    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister mourns passing of Dr Sir Ian Hassall
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is mourning the passing of Dr Sir Ian Hassall, New Zealand’s first Children’s Commissioner and lifelong champion for children and children’s health. As a paediatrician Sir Ian contributed to a major world-first cot death study that has been directly credited with reducing cot deaths in New ...
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    4 days ago
  • APEC structural reform meeting a success
    APEC ministers have agreed working together will be crucial to ensure economies recover from the impact of COVID-19. Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs David Clark, chaired the virtual APEC Structural Reform Ministerial Meeting today which revolved around the overarching theme of promoting balanced, inclusive, sustainable, innovative and secure growth ...
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    4 days ago
  • Digital hub to boost investment in forestry
    A new website has been launched at Fieldays to support the forestry sector find the information it needs to plant, grow and manage trees, and to encourage investment across the wider industry. Forestry Minister Stuart Nash says the new Canopy website is tailored for farmers, iwi and other forestry interests, ...
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    4 days ago
  • Government continues support for rangatahi to get into employment, education and training
    Over 230 rangatahi are set to benefit from further funding through four new He Poutama Rangatahi programmes, Minister for Social Development and Employment Carmel Sepuloni announced today. “We’re continuing to secure our economic recovery from COVID by investing in opportunities for rangatahi to get into meaningful employment, education or training ...
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    4 days ago
  • NCEA subjects up for consultation
    The education sector, students, their parents, whānau and communities are invited to share their thoughts on a list of proposed NCEA subjects released today, Education Minister Chris Hipkins says. This is a significant part of the Government’s NCEA Change Programme that commenced in 2020 and will be largely implemented by ...
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    4 days ago
  • Major investment in plantain forage programme aims to improve freshwater quality
    The Government is backing a major programme investigating plantain’s potential to help farmers protect waterways and improve freshwater quality, Acting Agriculture Minister Meka Whaitiri announced at Fieldays today. The Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures (SFFF) fund is contributing $8.98 million to the $22.23 million seven-year programme, which aims to deliver ...
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    4 days ago
  • America’s Cup decision
    The Minister responsible for the America’s Cup has confirmed the joint Crown-Auckland Council offer to host the next regatta has been declined by the Board of Team New Zealand. “The exclusive period of negotiation between the Crown, Auckland Council, and Team New Zealand ends tomorrow, 17 June,” said Stuart Nash. ...
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    4 days ago
  • Food and fibres sector making significant strides towards New Zealand’s economic recovery
    The Government is backing the food and fibres sector to lead New Zealand's economic recovery from COVID-19 with targeted investments as part of its Fit for a Better World roadmap, Forestry Minister Stuart Nash said. “To drive New Zealand’s recovery, we launched the Fit for a Better World – Accelerating ...
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    4 days ago
  • Speech to He Whenua Taurikura – New Zealand’s annual hui on countering terrorism and violent...
    Check against delivery Can I begin by acknowledging the 51 shuhada, their families and the Muslim community. It is because of the atrocious violent act that was done to them which has led ultimately to this, the start of a dialogue and a conversation about how we as a nation ...
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    5 days ago
  • Cost of Government Southern Response proactive package released
    The Government has announced the proactive package for some Southern Response policyholders could cost $313 million if all those eligible apply. In December, the Minister Responsible for the Earthquake Commission, David Clark announced a proactive package for SRES claimants who settled their claims before October 2014. It trailed the judgment ...
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    5 days ago
  • New support to reduce emissions from public building and construction projects
    Government agencies are getting new support to reduce carbon emissions generated by construction of new buildings, with the release of practical guidance to shape decisions on public projects. The Ministers for Building and Construction and for Economic Development say a new Procurement Guide will help government agencies, private sector suppliers, ...
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    5 days ago
  • He Whenua Taurikura: New Zealand’s first Hui on Countering Terrorism and Violent Extremism
    The Prime Minister has opened New Zealand’s first hui on Countering Terrorism and Violent Extremism, which is being held in Christchurch over the next two days. The hui delivers on one of the recommendations from the report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch masjidain ...
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    5 days ago
  • Speech to inaugural Countering Terrorism Hui
    E aku nui, e aku rahi, Te whaka-kanohi mai o rātou mā, Ru-ruku-tia i runga i te ngākau whakapono, Ru-ruku-tia i runga i te ngākau aroha, Waitaha, Ngāti Mamoe, Ngai Tahu, nāu rā te reo pohiri. Tena tātou katoa. Ki te kotahi te kakaho ka whati, ki te kapuia, e ...
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    5 days ago
  • Campaign shines a light on elder abuse
    A new campaign is shining a spotlight on elder abuse, and urging people to protect older New Zealanders. Launched on World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, the Office for Seniors’ campaign encourages friends, whānau and neighbours to look for the signs of abuse, which is often hidden in plain sight. “Research suggests ...
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    6 days ago
  • Farewelling sports administrator and philanthropist Sir Eion Edgar
    Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson today expressed his sorrow at the passing of Sir Eion Edgar – a leading sports administrator and celebrated philanthropist who has made a significant impact both within and beyond the sport sector. “Sir Eion’s energy, drive and generosity has been truly immense. He leaves ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government to apologise for Dawn Raids
    The Government will make a formal apology for the wrongs committed during the Dawn Raids of the 1970’s. Between 1974 and 1976, a series of rigorous immigration enforcement policies were carried out that resulted in targeted raids on the homes of Pacific families. The raids to find, convict and deport overstayers ...
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    6 days ago
  • Humanitarian support for Bangladesh and Myanmar
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta today announced that New Zealand is providing NZ $8.25 million in humanitarian assistance to support refugees and their host populations in Bangladesh and to support humanitarian need of internally displaced and conflict affected people in Myanmar.  “Nearly four years after 900,000 Rohingya crossed the border ...
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    6 days ago
  • Poroporoaki: Dame Georgina Kamiria Kirby
    E Te Kōkō Tangiwai, Te Tuhi Mareikura, Te Kākākura Pokai kua riro i a matou. He toka tū moana ākinga ā tai, ākinga ā hau, ākinga ā ngaru tūātea.  Haere atu rā ki te mūrau a te tini, ki te wenerau a te mano.  E tae koe ki ngā rire ...
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    6 days ago
  • Feedback sought on future of housing and urban development
    New Zealanders are encouraged to have their say on a long-term vision for housing and urban development to guide future work, the Housing Minister Megan Woods has announced. Consultation starts today on a Government Policy Statement on Housing and Urban Development (GPS-HUD), which will support the long-term direction of Aotearoa ...
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    6 days ago
  • Clean car package to drive down emissions
    New rebates for electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles start July 1 with up to $8,625 for new vehicles and $3,450 for used. Electric vehicle chargers now available every 75km along most state highways to give Kiwis confidence. Low Emission Transport Fund will have nearly four times the funding by 2023 ...
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    1 week ago
  • Progress towards simpler process for changing sex on birth certificates
    The Government is taking the next step to support transgender, non-binary and intersex New Zealanders, by progressing the Births, Deaths, Marriages and Relationships Registration Bill, Minister of Internal Affairs, Jan Tinetti announced today. “This Government understands that self-identification is a significant issue for transgender, non-binary and intersex New Zealanders, and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Crown speeds up engagement with takutai moana applicants
    The Crown is taking a new approach to takutai moana applications to give all applicants an opportunity to engage with the Crown and better support the Māori-Crown relationship, Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Andrew Little says. Following discussions with applicant groups, the Crown has reviewed the existing takutai moana application ...
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    1 week ago
  • Alcohol and Other Drug Treatment (AODT) Court opens
    The Minister of Justice, Kris Faafoi, and the Minister for Courts, Aupito William Sio, have welcomed the opening of a new Alcohol and Other Drug Treatment (AODT) Court in Hamilton. The AODT Court (Te Whare Whakapiki Wairua) addresses situations where substance abuse and offending are intertwined. “New Zealanders have told ...
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    1 week ago
  • EU and UK FTAs top of list for first ministerial trip since COVID-19
    Trade and Export Growth Minister Damien O’Connor today announced details of his planned visit to the United Kingdom and European Union next week, where he will hold trade and agriculture discussions to further New Zealand’s economic recovery from COVID-19. The visit will add political weight to ongoing negotiations with both the EU ...
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    1 week ago
  • Arihia Bennett to chair Royal Commission Ministerial Advisory Group
    Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu chief executive Arihia Bennett MNZM has been appointed chair of the newly appointed Ministerial Advisory Group on the Government’s Response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch mosques. “Twenty-eight people from diverse backgrounds across Aotearoa have been selected for the ...
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    1 week ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Medical Association General Practitioners' Conference, Rotorua
    Ki ngā pou maha o te whare hauora o Aotearoa, kei te mihiTo the pillars of our health system I acknowledge/thank you Ki te ope hapai hauora o roto o tēnei rūma, kei te mihi To our health force here in the room today, I acknowledge/thank you He taura tangata, ...
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    1 week ago
  • Karangahape Road upgrades are streets ahead
    The upgrades to Karangahape Road makes the iconic street more pedestrian and cycle-friendly, attractive and environmentally sustainable, Transport Minister Michael Wood and Auckland Mayor Phil Goff said at the formal celebration of the completion of the Karangahape Road Enhancements project. The project included widening footpaths supporting a better outdoor dining ...
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    1 week ago
  • Speech to APEC business event
    E ngā tumu herenga waka, ākina ā ngaru, ākina ā tai ka whakatere ngā waka ki te whakapapa pounamu, otirā, ki Tamaki o ngā waka Tena koutou katoa… To the great leaders assembled, who guided your waka through turbulent times, challenging waters and you continue to navigate your respective waka ...
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    1 week ago
  • Pause on Quarantine Free Travel with Victoria extended
    Following an assessment of the COVID-19 outbreak in greater Melbourne, New Zealand’s Quarantine Free Travel pause with Victoria will continue for a further seven days, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says. There are now 93 cases associated with the outbreak in greater Melbourne, spread over four clusters. Contact tracing efforts ...
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    1 week ago