Nats on HNZ dividend – Yes! No! Maybe!

Written By: - Date published: 7:01 am, July 12th, 2016 - 62 comments
Categories: housing, national, Steven Joyce, useless - Tags: , , , , , ,

On Friday Steven Joyce was lecturing us on the necessity of HNZ paying its regular “dividend” to the government (as per the May Budget projections).

Over the weekend Labour released its genuinely comprehensive housing policy, and Steven Joyce went in to meltdown on Twitter. Among his confused and contradictory rants, he suddenly stated that HNZ would not be required to deliver a dividend for the next 2 years:

joyce hnz panic tweet

So – dividends, yes as per budget, or no as per tweet? We the people waited for an answer. And waited. And waited. For a while it seemed like Joyce was going to have to put his money where his tweet was. Vernon Small:

Government’s $92m dividend snafu raises more questions than ministers will answer

Maybe it will go down in history as the $92 million tweet.

…somewhere in the social media hurly-burly about housing policy he managed to announce state provider Housing New Zealand Corporation (HNZC) would not be paying a dividend for the next two years.

Given the Government’s attacks on similar calls from the Greens and Labour – that dividends were a useful financial discipline – it was an extraordinary revelation, especially to be done so casually.

Now even in my bleaker moments I don’t imagine Joyce made the policy up on the hoof – though I stand to be corrected.

But there are some remaining questions. When exactly did the Government accept and approve a nil dividend? And why is it being fudged? … Before the Budget day proper? When the transfer of state houses in Invercargill fell over – revealed the day after the May 26 Budget?

When homelessness became a headline issue?

When housing affordability worsened as Auckland prices renewed their climb?

When Opposition parties said they would forgo dividends?

When the media pointed to big motel bills for people in urgent need of shelter?

Or was it really at Monday’s Cabinet meeting to square away Joyce cock-up?

So the Nats are winging it, but at least we have an answer. Dividends are out, right! Or – are they? Later that day:

Bill English denies U-turn after Steven Joyce reveals Housing NZ won’t pay dividend

Housing New Zealand will not pay $100 million in dividends to the Government over the next two years, following pressure from Labour and the Greens to stop treating it as a “cash cow”.

The decision has not been finalised, but Finance Minister Bill English has signalled it is almost inevitable – while denying the move is a U-turn. …

Citizens, “the decision has not been finalised”. Like Schrodinger’s cat, the dividends exist in a state of quantum indeterminacy, both required and not required, until such time as the Nats stop tweeting, and start thinking, and try to find a clue between them about how to run a country. I suggest that you don’t hold your breath.


It’s a target-rich environment on Twitter these days:

62 comments on “Nats on HNZ dividend – Yes! No! Maybe!”

  1. Greg 1

    Hmm, havnt I heard the last four words somewhere 😉

    “The finance minister has been forced to make one of National’s biggest-ever U-turns… this is panicked and desperate policy on the hoof.”

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/32033355/the-government-panicked-labour-says/#page1

  2. Open mike 2

    In recent weeks the senior Government ministers are apeing what they have been accusing opposition members of for so long – namely, just repudiation, no constructive criticism. Stephen Joyce is inevitably the first to front, perhaps vainly grooming himself to take over the role of the PM as the master of the glib inaccuracy, inevitably forgotten. Bill English can no longer be the master of numbers after his historic veto based on confusion between 1 and 4 years. Not quite in a downward spiral but this Government looks to be on the run, and rattled.

  3. Nck 3

    Horrendous mismanagement of the country by national.

    • gsays 3.1

      Be fair nck, it’s hard to answer major policy decisions when you don’t have access to latest polling figures.

      Really curia need to be available 24hrs a day.

  4. mary_a 4

    Re the HNZ dividend issue … yes, no, whatever …

    I urge anyone who wasn’t tuned in to RNZ’s Guyon Espiner interviewing Bill English at approximately 8.20 am this morning, to listen to the interview, when it’s posted up on the site.

    Espiner’s interviewing skills openly exposed Steven Joyce and English as being desperate liars and cheats! The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing it seems! And to think this lot of incompetents has been charged with running this country!

    God it’s looking better all the time for a Labour/Green government next year!

    • Clare 4.1

      YES!

    • Fustercluck 4.3

      That interview made my morning drive a joy.

    • Heather Grimwood 4.4

      Heartily agree mary_a at 4 !!! Too icy to go swimming this morning and so heard that unbelievable evasiveness by English on Radio NZ. Obviously the Nat hierarchy in shambolic distress and therefore this public disarray.
      Marvellous theatre! Roll on election 2017 !

    • Heather Grimwood 4.5

      Heartily agree mary_a at 4 !!! Too icy to go swimming this morning and so heard that unbelievable evasiveness by English on Radio NZ. Obviously the Nat hierarchy in shambolic distress and therefore this public disarray.
      Marvellous theatre! Roll on election 2017 !

    • Michelle 4.6

      I heard English being interviewed last week by Guyon and he was terrible everything he said and didn’t say. The way he spoke for an educated man was shocking he was mumbling and muttering I suppose when your telling porkies and making up policy as you go along this is what happens

    • Pat 4.7

      LMAO…government sans wheels…..plumbing new depths of farce

    • jcuknz 4.8

      Awhile back I questioned what was available as an alternative to National …today I don’t think they could be worse.

    • gsays 4.9

      Hi Mary, this is what happens when the liar-in-chief is away overseas.

      • leftie 4.9.1

        “liar-in-chief ” rofl, like that !! Perfect description of John the Con.

      • seeker 4.9.2

        @gsays 1.14pm

        Well he’s back to reassure us all, on the online politics page of the N Z H at least, with ‘John Key says’ an apparent revamped version of “Simple Simon says”

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=280

        What an antidote to the ‘twitter and burble’ disease Joyce and English have acquired.

        • Greg 4.9.2.1

          Simple Simon is perfect description, Key takes on the persona when he is delivering a Crosby Textor prepared speech,

          • North 4.9.2.1.1

            Notice how Key and various of the scum around him have taken to prefacing much of what they say with “I reckon……”

            More of the sham Everyman. It’s not working though except to expose and emphasise the sham.

            Bennett interviewed by Campbell last night. Bloody disgraceful. This from the party of ‘personal responsibility’.

    • leftie 4.10

      Yes Mary_a !!

  5. vto 5

    This is a classic case of the leadership of an organisation seeping down through its culture…..

    Key lies, deceives and makes shit up as he goes

    and so does every other Nat now

  6. ianmac 6

    A brilliant interview from Guyon with Bill English this morning. If any one doubted that politicians are capable of twisting and misleading and lying this will be a benchmark. Great work Guyon!
    Odd. That interview was at about 8:15 but has not been posted on replay, but later interviews have been.
    Has Radio NZ had an Editorial interference? Watch this space!

    Update. The Key interview is now up but not the intense interview with English which followed.

    • Ffloyd 7.1

      Lol. “That was ALWAYS our plan, been working on it since Sunday” said Bill clutching his Rosary beads tightly. Bet he needed a double whisky “don’t show it the tap” after that interview. Finally a genuine one!!!

    • gsays 7.2

      Thanks ianmac for the link.

      The other comment to make following the interview is;
      We are supposed to believe that there is no need for a dividend because there is a big capital investment needed, however hnz has paid a dividend to the government during the last few years during the chch rebuild!

      After all, that was just replacing a few broken windows… (sarc)

  7. Enough is Enough 8

    Although they are looking very shabby at the moment, the Nat’s message will be tightened up over the coming weeks.

    The danger is they have no problem swallowing dead rats and will do so again to negate Labour’s policy (that policy which is actually a carbon copy of the Greens).

    Expect the majority of the weekend announcements to be National policy by this time next year.

    Another reason to keep our powder dry for 12 months. We should continue to highlight the issues. But don’t give those wankers the answers until it is too late in the electoral cycle.

    • Michelle 8.1

      Are you trying to say they have no integrity

    • Jones 8.2

      Indeed… they just pretend they didn’t swallow a rat or that no rat existed in the first place. Truly Orwellian.

      • Enough is Enough 8.2.1

        Yep – Think interest free student loans, working for families, paid parental leave.

        Those polices run against everything they believe in. But in a desperate bid for power they held their nose and adopted them all.

        They do whatever it takes. And they are doing it again.

        There is no debate if both sides have the same policy. Easiest way to neutralise Labour.

    • Ch-ch Chiquita 8.3

      Well, according to National’s Facebook page -“Under National’s comprehensive housing plan 100,000 houses are on track to be built over the next three and a half years.”
      Didn’t they say Labour’s plan to build 100,000 over 10 years was not achievable? Wasn’t Labour questioned ‘and who will build?’ – one of the comments on Facebook asked what took you so long and the reply was not enough builders!

    • The thing is, that actually fixing the problems with housing are too large of a dead rat to swallow. (The same way National would never have endorsed a wage subsidy like WFF if Labour hadn’t already passed one)

      National will grab small things in their enthusiasm to eat dead rats that look like they’ll poll well, like not taking a dividend from HNZC, but the Greens and Labour can still beat them over the head for being slow about it, for saying they wouldn’t right up until they did, and for not doing the dozens of other things that need to be done to really have an impact, because the reality is that the housing crisis is a good thing for National’s core constituency, and like opposing the TPPA, it’s something they won’t oppose while still being the party they are today. They’ll just try to distract from it as much as possible.

  8. Adrian Thornton 9

    I agree, great interview on RNZ this morning, I would urge readers of this site to email RNZ morning report with positive feedback, it is very important we give them the courage and support to question our politicians without fear.
    National has obviously been actively building a culture of fear in NZ media, so great to see that project slowly start to come apart.
    morningreport@radionz.co.nz

    • ianmac 9.1

      Yep Adrian. Had already done that to applaud English being properly questioned. And sent a follow up re the non-publication of the English interview. Was it Editorial interference considering that the later interviews were posted? Received a reply that no interference – just short staffed.

    • mary_a 9.2

      @ Adrian Thornton (9) … can we expect some funding cuts to RNZ as a result of Espiner’s sharp, cutting interviews with English last week and now again today, exposing the chicanery of this government?

      He has certainly chewed Billy boy up and spat him out in pieces!

  9. ianmac 10

    You may be right Enough re the Nats adopting Labour Green plans. The hope however is that National may not get away with it as easily now that some journalists are questioning the Government u-turns, evasions and lies.

    The Labour Greens might delay policy release to avoid National attempts to trump, but courage is needed to build up a perception of being idea-rich.

  10. Sabine 11

    they are showing that they don’t care about running the country in any meaningful way, caring about the people in any meaningful way.
    It is now just about scoring points, and a desperate grap and hold on to the loot while they run for the exit.

    the shame in all of this is that HNZ via the National Party led Government is extorting money from our most vulnerable people to shore up its ghost surplus in a mockery of a budget.
    For shame National Party, for shame National Supporter. Your free market mantra is only hogwash, you love the government tit so much you milk the cow until she falls dead.

  11. AB 12

    The “fiscal discipline” argument is a piece of pontificating neoliberal cant in any case. We’ve had this tripe rammed down our throats for 30 plus years. It provides a pseudo-intellectual cover for privatizing or running down public services and thereby lowering the tax burden on the wealthy.

  12. Pat 13

    Will Joyce have his salary garnished to recoup some of the 92 million he has just removed from the governments projected revenue?

  13. Paul 14

    The government’s housing policies in meltdown.
    News?
    The Herald doesn’t think so. Pokemon Go is more important.
    The mainstream media is a big part of the problem; they create by design a distracted and ill-informed populace.
    New laws about the media must be enacted.

    • mosa 14.1

      Yeah on cue One News just had too run a negative report on Labours housing policy and interview someone with an axe too grind last night re the cost of a new home being in the 500-600.000 price range in Auckland of all places.
      Guyon and RNZ is one thing but it does not the get cut through that is needed.
      The Nasty Natz still control the media and that will be Labours biggest challenge to break through , that and the resources to compete against the John Key machine.
      Billboards may be the answer to get the message out after all the iwi kiwi campaign worked a treat.
      When Labour does manage to dislodge the current concrete rock one of their priorities must be a fairer media platform and a new set of standards for public broadcasters that have too be met , having a forum for broadcasting complaints as we have now is not good enough as it has no teeth.
      Labour wont get fair coverage now or in a years time going into the campagin, Key and Joyce will be at their worst and CROSBY/TEXTOR will be helping them to that John Key legacy fourth term.

  14. Brendon Harre 16

    National party housing policy is a complete shemozzle. They have been exposed by Little and Twyford as been doing too little for too long and there attempts to catch up are not working.

  15. Brendon Harre 17

    National party housing policy is a complete shemozzle. They have been exposed by Little and Twyford as been doing too little for too long and there attempts to catch up are not working.

  16. Brendon Harre 18

    National party housing policy is a complete shemozzle. They have been exposed by Little and Twyford as been doing too little for too long and there attempts to catch up are not working.

  17. mary_a 19

    This HNZ issue, exposing National and it’s senior dimwit shit for brains ministers, is emerging as the entertainment of the year 🙂

    Makes me wonder now if the slimy, gutless Key had some idea what was about to come up, so absented himself quickly overseas!

    I hope RNZ pursues this topic, keeping Joyce and English running around chasing their tails.

  18. peterh 20

    Where are all national trolls on this issue hope they done Pauls test

  19. adam 21

    Repeat,

    This is a failed government. With a collection of incompetent Ministers. Who, if we had a media worth their salt would strip the backs of these slackers and nincompoops on a daily basis.

    This is not a government, it’s a bunch of school boys playing at grown ups. Joyce is just one bully amongst a gaggle second raters. This is a government out of ideas, out of skill and lying in the gutter of history.

  20. adam 22

    Repeat,

    This is a failed government. With a collection of incompetent Ministers. Who, if we had a media worth their salt would strip the backs off these slackers and nincompoops on a daily basis.

    This is not a government, it’s a bunch of school boys playing at grown ups. Joyce is just one bully amongst a gaggle second raters. This is a government out of ideas, out of skill and lying in the gutter of history.

  21. The New Student 23

    Pokemon Go servers are down so time to rejoin the real world.

    Still the same old shite under this incompetent Government *sigh*

  22. leftie 24

    Govt blames outdated Budget figures for Housing NZ dividend U-turn

    <a href="https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/govt-blames-outdated-budget-figures-060700249.html

    • Sabine 24.1

      We really have the most incompetent Finance Minister ever, first he can’t math, now he can’t math again (and the Minister of Housing NZ is equally incompetent if she can not get her staff at the ministry to provide the Finance Minister with the ‘correct’ set of data.

      so National has just admitted that two of their highest ranking officials are incompetent at their jobs.

      from your link: The government no longer expects to receive dividends from Housing New Zealand, despite forecasts just six weeks ago of $38 million and $54 million over the next two years.
      Finance Minister Bill English’s office released a statement on request from media saying the figures in the May 26 Budget “appear to be based on older HNZ numbers dating from almost a year ago”.
      The disclosure came after Labour Party MPs accused the government of making housing policy “on the hoof” when Associate Finance Minister Steven Joyce revealed that dividends were no longer expected from the government-owned housing developer and landlord.”

      on can not make up this shit any longer.

      • Sabine 24.1.1

        and the next thing

        is this the only instance where the National Party led Government needs to back paddle due to ‘older (insert what ever department) numbers dating from almost a year ago?:”

      • dv 24.1.2

        I must try that “old numbers’ with my tax returns.

        AND what other data from a year back are they using to make decisions?

  23. Keith 25

    National Party default position 101 when slammed dunked. LIE and lie big!

    Joyce is a disgrace, who the fuck would believe this bunch of crooks?

    • mosa 25.1

      47% of kiwis according to the MSM political polls ,no change for the Nasty Natz for 8 years.
      I predict that it wont change in the next 18 months convincing the public how popular they still are and Crosby / Textor will have a strategy for manipulation for a fourth term and Labours numbers will still fall short for government.
      The herald campaign has already started, they wont talk about Labours housing policy but will devote room for an attack on how Little is not ready to be PM.
      Same strategy as the last 3 campaigns but no big German this time to upset the conservative arrogant well off business white classes who rallied to the cause when Mr Key was attacked and would never condone as PM the dirty tricks campaign run out of his office, he is not responsible for what his staff does and had no idea Mr Slater was cordinating it all even if he and Slater were in contact via text message on a daily basis.

  24. Ffloyd 26

    So, going on present form, if Labour says that they will be bringing in 26week PPL National would trundle out Joyce who would then announce that they would be rescinding English’s tragic veto immediately. But they had been planning to do so for some time anyway. So there!

  25. dave 27

    Does anyoe get the feeling this government is incompetent?????????????hahahahahhahahaahahahaha

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    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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