On Planet Key, the market always provides

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1. BLiP 1

   1 October 2012 at 10:48 am

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   So, in a market ecoomy, wouldn’t a scarcity of labour drive up wages? Are Christchurch employers offering decent money yet?
   • Draco T Bastard 1.1

     1 October 2012 at 5:12 pm

     Are Christchurch employers offering decent money yet?

     Don’t be silly – the amount paid has been capped by EQC and Fletchers. In fact, they’ve been decreasing the wages.
2. ianmac 2

   1 October 2012 at 10:53 am

   “Short of stopping them at the airport and taking their passports off them,…”
   That was a very stupid response from that strange chap Joyce.
   Joyce stood at the open stable door as they bolted and sniffed, “Not my job to make the stable more attractive! Good riddance I say.”
   • felix 2.1

     1 October 2012 at 6:52 pm

     It’s a good illustration of the paucity of right-wing thought.

     Their only possible settings are 100% hands-off laissez faire or 100% totalitarianism.

     Anything else would require far too much work.
3. Kotahi Tāne Huna 3

   1 October 2012 at 11:15 am

   On Planet Key, you provide for the market. Apologies to Yakov Smirnoff.
4. bbfloyd 4

   1 October 2012 at 11:34 am

   The answer is easy….The market will provide chinese workers for three months at a time, to be replaced by more chinese workers for another three months…..

   That is exactly how the bulk of what little building is going on here in auckland….. Anyone taking a slow drive through Botany nowadays would be hard pressed to find a white face on a building site there…

   How hard is it going to be to “think up” the same solution for christchurch?

   A hell of a lot cheaper too! And they work 12-14 hour days, seven days a week….

   Of course, the bulk of the money these workers make will go back to where they came from, but hey, at least we are supporting ordinary people…. just not our ordinary people…..
   • BloodyOrphan 4.1

     1 October 2012 at 12:52 pm

     Gee those houses are likely to built too NZ specs ….. not.
     Nothing wrong with bringing them in, Just have to spend 50,000 per so they can get a Trade Cert first

     (I wonder if we could charge them for it? says Johny Sparkles)
   • Draco T Bastard 4.2

     1 October 2012 at 5:15 pm

     A hell of a lot cheaper too! And they work 12-14 hour days, seven days a week….

     With the results that you can expect – poor quality.
5. Bored 5

   1 October 2012 at 11:59 am

   Why we would think either National or Labour would think / act in any other way after 30 years of neo liberalism? Especially when they can avert their gaze because we are so used to losing our trades people to the Gold Coast because Oz has the $s from a hole in the ground.
6. Augustus 6

   1 October 2012 at 12:14 pm

   Nearly every building contractor I talk to mentions Fletchers as at least a thinking point when considering Christchurch work. EQC’s project manager is doing quite nicely.

   Fletcher has gained 20 percent this year, closing at NZ$9.19 yesterday and valuing New Zealand’s largest publicly traded company at about NZ$6.2 billion ($5 billion).

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   For contractors, they’re less willing to pass on the windfall. Many contractors are experienced specialists in their field and see that as sponging and a disincentive. There is no “market” for them to compete in. \Cheap overseas labour will be the ticket all right. The lack of action on a skills shortage anticipated from day 1 attests to that.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     1 October 2012 at 5:18 pm

     First Link corrected
     Second Link corrected
7. Poission 7

   1 October 2012 at 1:28 pm

   There are two emerging trends here. The difficulty in the ability to find skilled labour,and the increase in the difficulty to find unskilled labour.both which have increased in the last couple of years.

   http://s1250.beta.photobucket.com/user/Poission/media/skilllabour_zpsc7661f51.gif.html?sort=3&o=1

   A number of fundamental or structural changes have appeared,the reluctance of employees to change employers after the introduction of the 90 day rule.

   The ability of the ” market” to vote with their feet,such as Australia.

   The fast deleaveraging of skilled human capital,by business meant many became self employed contractors,often increasing the cost of business inputs.

   That there was little predictive skill in the outcomes at present,is clearly evident if we compare Japan which has a number of the same problems with NZ.one of the response was to utilize factory closure workers during the cleanup,and provide transferable skills training in the construction sector.

   There has been an interesting side effect,using the well developed production techniques of Japanese industry there is fast build techniques such as factory constructed modular housing (transportable) with subsequent reduction in building costs.
   • Draco T Bastard 7.1

     1 October 2012 at 5:26 pm

     The fast deleaveraging of skilled human capital,by business meant many became self employed contractors,often increasing the cost of business inputs.

     I’m constantly amazed by the people who don’t realise that that must happen. Go back 30 years and a business would have enough tools for everyone who worked there. Today each contractor needs to supply the full range of tools which means that the number of tools has increased by a multiple which means more overall cost.

     There has been an interesting side effect,using the well developed production techniques of Japanese industry there is fast build techniques such as factory constructed modular housing (transportable) with subsequent reduction in building costs.

     And the factory produced stuff is usually better as standards are easier to maintain.
8. fatty 8

   1 October 2012 at 1:41 pm

   I hope builders like living in tents
9. tracey 9

   1 October 2012 at 2:41 pm

   Didnt mr joyce tell us in 2008 he wld stop people exodusing to oz. Did he have a plan,,, rhetorical
10. Jokerman 10

    1 October 2012 at 8:07 pm

    The market provides for the economic harvesting of the caterpillar by the Ichneumonidae

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