… ” Pi said he believed one reason for such violent behaviour among the young was that China’s education system focused too much on hate instead of love.
“We do not have education about love. We believe this is something from and of the West. Instead, we have plenty of violent heroes in textbooks for students to learn from”…
Tai Chi , … codified sword moves. They are EXACTLY the same as the guard and strike positions I taught using the European long sword and single sword techniques. Langswert in German. Just slowed down for muscular tensions.
Did Tai Chi for a few months, all slow motion type training. Thought it was ridiculous.
Months later someone tried to blindside me with a roundhouse kick I dropped them without even thinking, before my thoughts had even registered the attack they were on the ground. Previously matched opponents can barely touch me.
I imagine true mastery of such an art would be hilarious where bullies wear themselves out punching air. Amazing discipline.
It is , actually… now… not many people would realize this , but the European Waltz was designed for Cavalry soldiers,- moreso Officers.
That One , two , three, one , two three step motion is the codified form of the saber footwork…. it is identical, and was in fact designed for that purpose.
It achieved the same thing, fitness, agility and dexterity … it is ALL in the footwork. The Maoris did the same in incorporating the movement’s of animals.
Yeah mate ,… here’s a site I fed off for years, … they talk about over 60 manuals written by the Europeans ,… I have the one by Talhoffer and a few others. They don’t play act , … they have many PHD’s in metallurgy , history and academics with a practical application. They don’t mess around.
The bastard sword, the long sword or hand and a half sword ( all the same thing ) was reputedly the weapon that claimed more lives than any other sword type up to and including in the age of early gun powder.
Simply because of its great versatility. It was a military sword,… the rapier was a civilian dueling sword. The English despised the rapier.It wasn’t until very , very late into the Renaissance that it was finally phased out. It was then that the Calvary saber took its place in the age of the musket.
The movie industry has taught us that martial arts are things that only exist in Asian cultures. As if people weren’t trying to kill each other for thousands of years in the West.
Briefly did ballrom dancing evening classes – one step I was particularly good at was the chassé where the step to the side is followed by a cross behind with the trailing foot then another step to the side.
Exactly the same movement as a side kick with an extra deep backstep to close the gap more quickly from a distance.
I was looking at the tango danced lovingly and lots of fancy footwork there.
Miles away from the folk dancing, the veleta etc that we learned at school. Watching the tango moves, and I thought just as well.
I totally recommend anything with Raul Julia in it. He’s been in some crap movies, but as far as I’ve gotten with his ouvre it seems that the bigger the turd, the more brightly he shines like a diamond.
Dance has (and still is) used for a number of reasons by the military. Fitness and agility is important. The Scottish regiments still use dance today. Scottish country dance not only requires fitness it also promotes teamwork as 8 or 10 dances work together to provide a pattern and formations, much like a rugby team train together on a movement where team work and timing is important.
One of the most famous (within Scottish circles) is The Reel of the 51st Division. The dance was written by Lieutenant J.E.M. ‘Jimmy’ Atkinson of the 7th Battalion The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders while in a POW camp during the Second World War. Captured together with the vast majority of the British 51st (Highland) Division during the Battle of Dunkirk in 1940, Atkinson spent the rest of the war as a POW in Germany. His idea of a reel with a Saint Andrew′s Cross in its key formation was intended to symbolise Scotland and the Highland Division, in adversity.
Atkinson’s letter home with instructions for the dance was intercepted by the German security service, the Abwehr, who spent the rest of the war trying to break the code. However, another version of the dance reached Scotland where it was published while Atkinson was still a POW and became instantly popular.
It is often danced in a set composed entirely of men.
Fascinating – I guess that the Scots love of fitness, action and dancing, inter-relationships with bands and pipes, and vitality for their country shown in battles for Scottish sovereignty – all go together to produce the Tattoos which are remarkable.
Incidentally thinking about POWs I have just read a remarkable book called The Man who broke into Auschwitz and the title is just part of a gripping and poignant true story by Denis Avey.
Other countries without so much uptightness as it seems NZs, westerners have, know how to have a good community event.
Zorba and the other dances are complicated. I was shown how to do it when i shipped to UK on the Fairstar or Fairsky in the 70’s. We could still travel that way if we
didn’t have planes you know. It was enjoyable, took a month?
One of the reasons I enjoy Scottish country dancing is because it is open to many different interpretations. People with a mathematical bend take to it instantly for this reason because it is full of interesting and repeating patterns. Prof of mathematics at VUW Rob Downey, (the most recent recipient of the Rutherford Medal) for instance is one such, and has devised a number of dances as you can see here: https://www.scottish-country-dancing-dictionary.com/rod-downey.html
He is not the only mathematician to do so.
Hugh Foss was another:
Hugh Rose Foss (13 May 1902 – 23 December 1971) was a British cryptanalyst. At Bletchley Park during World War II he made significant contributions both to the breaking of the German Enigma code and headed the section tasked with breaking Japanese Naval codes.
Many of Hugh Foss’s dances are amongst the most popular of dances in SCD. https://www.scottish-country-dancing-dictionary.com/hugh-foss.html
John Drewry who devised over 800 dances was a biochemist at Edinburgh University.
There are literally thousands of dances now in the repertoire. but learning and dancing new dances is not as daunting as it may sound. Each dance will employ a set of different figures, repeated in a certain order to create the new dance. It then becomes a simple matter of remembering the order and going with the flow.
Did some Morris dancing on a marae one Waitangi Day, and the taiaha warriors saw a strong relationship with stick dancing and the taiaha. In olde England when the peasantry were forbade swords by the ruling classes, the English stave was used instead as a weapon and Morris stick dancing uses some of the strikes and blocks from that form.
Good this person is being sorted. A weak man followed by even weaker people. Some on this site have talked about crisis actors – I hope they stfu now and hold their tiny heads in shame.
“In a video released Friday, Jones acknowledged in a sworn deposition stemming from a lawsuit filed by the families of Sandy Hook victims that the school shooting was in fact real. Jones blamed the “trauma of the media and the corporations lying so much” for triggering his extreme distrust in news and information.”
Hmmm… just read a story on vaping,… whereby the author described you perfectly… a pinch faced wowser.
Yep..
Bang on the nail.
DW about the vids… plenty more where they come from,… meanwhile, assuage your vicious little mentality and in crowd echo chamber as best you can. Go ahead, feel free. No one gives a damn anyways. You’ll grow up one of these days. I’ll still be here.
BTW , its Aprils Fools,… you wear it well.
Rod Stewart – You Wear It Well (1972) [HQ+Lyrics] – YouTube
I think marty mars really has made the grade, for sure.
He’s floating in his waka around the world trying to stop us getting into
tin cans and getting lost. Seems to have a good mission.
I was reading about swords and Tai Chi on 2. Then at 2.2 marty mars you come in with something else. Why isn’t it in a new number? It’s hard enough to follow Wild Katipos numerous comments without additions to the thread.
Dang it,… now I gotta apologize. I’m sorry old chap. I did Iaido and Kendo. I hated Katanas,.. they felt like blade heavy meat cleavers that committed your body to overreaching swings with no ‘ live ‘ feel to the blade. The longsword by comparison was like a whip in its return to guard.
I was mentally geared more for Kenjutsu.
I had many interesting discussions with the Sensei’s down there in Hamilton.
I taught them what the ‘ tail’ guard was used for. But Kendo was the codified , sports version to preserve the killing arts of Kenjutsu. I was interested in straight combat to retrace my European heritage, and I drew on all sources, including Jujitsu in regards to Kampfringen,… all of them recognized many of the same techniques as I found in the European arts… they were roughly compatible.
Whoa- now Miyamoto Musashi and the book of five rings,… that IS a study in the sword !!!
He was legendary… hair disheveled, comes out scruffy and half asleep, beats an experienced swordsman using a Katana with little more than a stick on that island !
And in the end ,.. after so many years and so many kills, tells society’s expectations of him to shove it… matures and seeks a more peaceful and humane life and sees the futility of endless warfare.
I had a Japanese mate who told me that duel highlighted Musashi’s favoured technique of pissing off his opponent so that he’d make mistakes.
Sasaki Kojiro was noted for using a longer than usual sword. So Musashi whittled an even longer one out of an old oar – this both satirized Kojiro and robbed him of the reach advantage he’d begun to depend on.
Me brother and I occasionally duel with bokken if he’s in town. He’s much better than me, still doing the manlyman stuff and all, but every so often he’s the one who calls time out to suck his fingers after a good whack lol
Yep lol I sorta want to do more jo and taiaha – double ended pretty hard to stop in proficient hands. Thinking of making my own and teaching the boy to train with me. Good fun.
Sometime one day might be good to set up a taiaha retreat in Golden Bay for all the martial arts people here. Of course you would invite the police to join in and that would prevent them from inflating everything with bad intent.
It would be interesting if new and better attitudes to law and order with police could come about iff they built relationships with the public; for ages they have kept themselves separate and been afraid of being compromised if there were problems amongst people they knew. But I think a new model of fraternisation could be developed.
One of the things that struck me as a general spectator to all three is how bayonet drill is an evolution of quarterstaff technique, which has many similarities to taiaha technique (only so many ways of efficiently bopping someone on the nut, I guess 🙂 ).
I wonder if the British army absorbed any lessons from going head-to-head against taiaha. It’d be fascinating if some of those bayonet drills were influenced by the New Zealand Wars.
ISTR Belich was big on that argument, but I’m not really sure it holds up. Firstly it was a fixed emplacement rather than a broad barrier. Secondly Wellington had done similar efforts in the Peninsula campaign thirty years before, and it’s what really stopped the French from taking Portugal, and it was done by the most famous British general, so well known in Europe. And it was an adaptation of previous military events anyway.
But then as an incrementalist I’m possibly more primed to see evolutionary progression than maybe identifying revolutionary change 🙂
L0L… The reason I like to mix it up is because while local politics is important and that of those overseas also,… is to provide colour and something a little thought provoking,… else it just becomes a very morose and off putting exercise for those who are not particularity inclined towards dry narrow perspectives.
There is a whole big world out there, and its too easily to become egocentric or introspective , or too partisan or too tribal. Its good to think outside just what the newsmedia spouts with its set narratives and agendas , … such as the world of nature, the world of mystery , history and the origins of political movements… otherwise you will end up dried, staid and dull, – and dead before your time… mere parrots of the very news media you claim to despise.
Curiously , somehow,.. these ‘natural and historical things’ finally become political … but only after people come out of their shells and start to consider them… this world is way bigger than just our perceptions, bigger than what this generations politicians think…far , far more than that.
Perhaps this is why it seems’ hard to follow’.
It is not always about what Jacinda Adern or Winston Peters or John Key are up to or what they think,… the world doesn’t revolve around them.
Tai Chis is great. I have started a few times and dropped it, have book and want to practise the moves so they become involuntary. Good for suppleness, flexibility, blood circulation, quieting the mind (would be useful for some), and brings a short serenity which may last through the everyday hurly-burly.
It’s based on the moves used by fighters, but adapted for general public suitability. Has some poetic names, one stance is stroking the peacock’s tail. It’s a bit more mind enhancing and less demanding on the body than gym action and in a group situation it is pleasant to be doing something that is like a slow dance with the group, part of a social interaction with people in balance.
I would say go for it. The Japanese martial art I loved most was Aikido,… but the most functional and easy to train was Japanese jujustu,… for combat purposes only.
But either Aikido or Tai Chi,… would be gentle and great for more fitness, toning and gentle suppleness or meditative purposes… relaxation is the motivation , -without the bone crushing , rip shit and bust of Jujutsu. Jujutsu is a ‘ hard’ art… only designed for combat.
“the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, has pointed out that India has the world’s third largest Muslim population after Indonesia and Pakistan – upward of 180 million people”. ….. “In fact, by the end of 2016, only 23 men from India had left to fight for Isis in the Arab world,” …..
Was this written in our white supremacist manifesto before he committed his terrorist attack against Christchruchs Muslims …”explain why we ought to tolerate sharia law.” ???
Would NZ s mass murderer have agreed with the sentiment ” Rabid rottweilers of racism here – who see racism wherever they look – will relish an opportunity to explain why the Islamic race is better than the Christian race. ”
I’m quoting a poster here at the standard ( dennis Frank) , …. but he’s not alone,……. I have argued with another poster who believes / pretends that the majority of Muslims are hard line extremists …. and they are incompatible with our modern society ….
Two posters espousing some of The sentiments , the beliefs … and putrid justifications….. of our racist white supremacist before he went on the rampage … incorrect fascist opinion dressed up as facts ….the talking points of a terrorist mass murderer.
The Statistics at the beginning of this post …. show up the negative stereotype lies ……. pushed by the dennis franks / wayne mapps and other anti Muslim scaremongers ..such as the National party … and our media.
I think spreading this message …. along with the stories of other Muslim kiwis targeted and harmed in Our terror attack.
Is the best antidote to the fear-mongering speech and harmful stereotypes … that some angry NZers cling to and spread.
“Oranga Tamariki chief executive Grainne Moss has rated her organisation seven to eight out of 10, despite 220 children being harmed in its care over six months in 2018…
… However Dame Tariana Turia, the former Minister for Whānau Ora, strongly disagrees, saying “the number of children being abused in care doesn’t warrant a seven” and rating them three out of 10.”
Does everyone in Aotearoa get the same opportunity for good health, a good education, decent work and an adequate standard of living?
The evidence says no.
In fact, if you are Māori or Pasifika, you are:
👉🏾 More likely to be arrested by police
👉🏾 More likely to be sentence to prison by the court
👉🏾 More likely to live in cold, damp home
👉🏾 More likely to have teachers who don’t believe in you
👉🏾 More likely to be underpaid and undervalued
👉🏾 More likely to have their children removed and placed in state care
👉🏾 More likely to suffer preventable, and early deaths
👉🏾 Less likely to have your babies resuscitated in hospital
Put another way, if you are Pākehā then you are:
👉🏻 More likely to be given a warning by police
👉🏻 More likely to be let off by the court
👉🏻 More likely to live in a wam, dry home
👉🏻 More likely to have teachers that believe in you
👉🏻 More likely to have accrued wealth and be well paid
👉🏻 Less likely to have your children removed and placed in state care
👉🏻 More likely to live a long and healthy life
👉🏻 More likely to have your babies resuscitated in hospital
Is this a ‘fair go’? We don’t think so.
Note the John Key property speculator disease hitting the indigenous Hawaii people with high homelessness rates ,,, it’s engineered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n64ZVQXAbzg
” More likely to have teachers who don’t believe in you”
As an early childhood teacher/lecturer this one resonates with me. The state has no business whatever letting loose teachers on our vulnerable children of all stripes who do not have a clear understanding of equal opportunities and a reasonable working knowledge of our history, including colonialism, te tiriti and enough reo and tikanga to at least be able to acknowledge and respect same. And over the years I have seen and heard enough to make me sad and angry – there are no excuses for this situation!!
FYI uptake for Disability Allowance is lowest for Asians, and second lowest for Maori/PI. Possibly because doctors “know” that brown faces are trying to scam the govt.
Overwhelmingly, nearly 90%, the reason given for not receiving the CDA is ‘not knowing about it’.
This I can relate to regarding the Disability Allowance for adults. My partner, who has a high cost significant physical disability knew nothing about the Disability Allowance until some aberrant (in the nicest possible way) WINZ employee asked if a way to ease our struggling finances was to try and get his DA raised by a few $$$ per week. This aberrant (in the nicest possibly way) WINZ employee assumed he was on the DA…but interestingly was not surprised (and more than a little pissed off) that someone with such obvious high needs had not been offered this assistance.
We’re pakeha, so I doubt if it is a ‘brown face’ thing.
Interesting name for Oranga Tamariki CEO, is it Maori or Irish? Is this person one of the well-paid chiefs helicoptered in from UK? So many have been, to minister to the ‘indians’, as in too many chiefs (highly paid) and not enough indians (which is a name in this case, for the workers who are hardly receiving wages enough to support themselves and families).
Just giving a government department/contracted agency a Maori name doesn’t mean anything but a brownwash, a cynical PC ploy that gummint is making the effort to relate to Maori needs and tikanga. And in a way it is insulting as it is not only Maori who need help and are struggling, though a larger percentage of Maori population numbers than pakeha and tauiwi population numbers are having difficulties. That percentage thing – it has to be understood what its base is and what context it refers to.
Not an immediate helicopter drop….she did her few years learning the Kiwi way of doing things before being ‘recruited’ by MSD. Being in charge of Bupa NZ is not something she should be proud of having on her CV. Was recruited to the cyfs role by Bennett…but probably came to the notice of the National government in relation to her company being largely government funded.
However….I doubt it won’t make any difference to outcomes for at risk children who leads the agency responsible for sorting this shit out until the real reasons for our shameful rates of child abuse are acknowledged.
Ooops…my comment is in moderation. Have I broken the rules?
[A technical issue, Rosemary. Comments with an excess of links go into the mod queue until one the team release them. TRP]
I was watching a very good interview with Democrat presidential hopeful Andrew Yang who is promoting a universal basic income and thought this will never happen in New Zealand because we have a mentality as a nation that anyone who gets money from the government without working for it is a bludger.
Careful with that idea. TOP are the only party who have seriously promoted a UBI, and taken one to an election as key policy, and all the tribals here hated them for it.
When I was in the Greens economic policy working group led by Jeanette Fitzsimons, we attended a conference on UBI featuring its leading academic advocate at the time: Keith Rankin. Think that was ’92. Our group adopted it but I don’t recall if the GP formally did likewise due to being embroiled in the Alliance subsequently.
However it appears to have survived in the form of principle #8 in the current GP economic policy: “Equity and Compassion: Basic material security and sufficient income for all, and a fair distribution of the economy’s benefits and burdens, will lead to better outcomes for all members of our society, including gender and pay equity.”
So much for principle, what about practice? See 4.9 – “The Green Party will: … Explore the introduction of a guaranteed minimum income for all people.” Establish a feasibility study, that means. It’s what leftists do when they want to appear to be supporting something without declaring intent to actually do that thing. To differentiate themselves from Labour on this point, they are explicitly not declaring their intent to use focus groups.
So yeah, ho hum. The usual methodology for manufacturing consent. Weasel words? Technically, yes, but unkind to dismiss the policy on that basis. The Greens are good people who mean well. Evasive policy can be framed as prudent and shrewd. Non-committal stances allow freedom of movement in response to changing times…
Or, maybe as is really the case, we want the space to research, discuss, options, and find out if a UBI, is going to work as intended.
It is called thinking about things before you do them. Including considering unintended consequences.
I support a UBI, but there are other options which may help people sooner. And can be gotten past other parties, and the bad faith, roadblock.
I reckon a full UBI, may well be introduced by a right wing party. When it finally penetrates their self interested brains, that people with no money, cannot buy anything.
Yep, that’s a very good point. Recent years has seen substantial support emerging from rightists. Some commentary I’ve seen goes into differences that have emerged in respect of implementation of the concept. That does indeed give the Greens a sensible basis for caution.
My suggestion would be to use a preliminary conference to discuss the pros & cons of the most well-formulated designs that are available at the time, then have parliament discuss the options. If competing schools of thought become evident, either another conference or perhaps an advisory group established to clarify problems and refine design of the system before reporting back to parliament?
No idea if I’ve ever voted based on a single policy.
I’d be interested to see what happens if Morgan gives them another couple of mill but keeps his mug out of it. He was too much of a jerk to actually be electable.
But if they were well-funded and issued reports in the style of a think tank to prepare the ground and had some passionate but openminded candidates, it might be more successful.
Federated farmers will still be complaining about the left, on the day we rescue them from their flooded or dust bowled farms and put them in state housing.
Fortunately, not all farmers are that stupid.
As we carry another load of hay, for draught relief.
Are you asserting that Andrew Yang is connected to Yang Enterprises? Or just throwing out a random factoid hoping readers make that associative smear themselves?
I’ve had a pretty good search, and found zero connection. Wikipedia claims Andrew Yang’s parents were from Taiwan, while the owners of Yang Enterprises (Li-Woan and Tyng-Lin Wang) are described as Chinese-American.
Andre …. One would hope your conclusion is not as wrong as your argument….. because your rebuttal is based on ignorance.
Throwing out fact-turds like that …. you could work for the Legatum stink tank threw out there. ….
The Taiwan Govt declares itself ….. the official name of “the Republic of China (ROC) ”
“Since the ROC lost its United Nations seat as “China” in 1971 (replaced by the PRC), most sovereign states have switched their diplomatic recognition to the PRC, recognizing the PRC as the representative of all China,” …..
” As of 21 August 2018, the ROC maintains official diplomatic relations with 16 UN member states and the Holy See, ”
” with the election of the Kuomintang (KMT, “Chinese Nationalist Party”) back into executive power in 2008, the ROC government has reverted to the position that “mainland China is also part of the territory of the ROC.”
What does the ridiculous posturing the governments of Taiwan (RoC) and China (PRoC) perform to each other have to do with the question of whether Andrew Yang (US presidential candidate) has any connection to Yang Enterprises (allegedly dodgy US software company)?
cleangreen has apparently invited readers to make that connection by responding to a post about Andrew Yang with mutterings and a link about “the family that rigged the 2000 Florida election.”
I asked cleangreen to clarify that connection (or lack thereof). reason, you too are also welcome to clarify that connection.
Sorry Andre …. that you seem to thick to realize that the people of Taiwan are in the majority Chinese …. and call themselves Chinese.
So your claim “I’ve had a pretty good search, and found zero connection.” is undermined by your bullshit ‘ evidence’ …” Wikipedia claims Andrew Yang’s parents were from Taiwan, while the owners of Yang Enterprises (Li-Woan and Tyng-Lin Wang) are described as Chinese-American.”
I’m not interested in Yang enterprises …. unless there’s a Legatum link …. or money laundering in NZ links / dodgy NZ trusts / NZ shell company’s etc
“Ngāi Tahu is asking why it wasn’t informed or involved when a giant leatherback turtle washed up in its rohe.
The body of a 2.5 metre turtle was found on a farm near Akaroa on Banks Peninsula last week and sent by Department of Conservation rangers to the national museum Te Papa Tongarewa in Wellington.”
Matiu Payne from Lincoln University’s Te Whare Pūtahi says Ngāi Tahu consider the honu a kaitiaki.
Every year a draft resolution is presented to the UN.General Assembly.
Broadly condemning the glorification of Nazism.
“Combating glorification of Nazism, Neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance”.
Every year the US and Ukraine, sometimes Canada, sometimes some poor Pacific country hoping for favours, votes no. The vast majority (130countries ) votes yes,sadly NZ is not one of them .We join the EU in abstaining
..
One year I wrote to Murray McCully, and asked him to explain our stance
He replied that there was wording related to freedom of expression,and rights of peaceful assembly that were of concern .Pretty much word for word the US stance, which adds that as it is a Russian resolution, it is therefore invalid as it has been put forward for political reasons
Each year the resolution is amended and circulated , in the hope of consensus, and each year the vote stays pretty much the same
After the events in CHCh, is it time for NZ to vote in favour of this resolution?
No, it isn’t. As when he oversaw NZ’s sponsorhip of a Security Council resolution against Israel, McCully is correct: freedom of expression is important and Russia is one of the countries looking for ways to diminish it at the UN. The fact that no-one likes Nazis shouldn’t influence our decision-making on freedom of expression.
Note that the resolution specifies the glorification of Nazism
As Nazism’s extreme nationalism advocated the extermination of an entire race/religion, I venture that Nazi speech doesn’t warrant protection
Happily, the vast majority of UN countries agree, just not the most powerful
Note that the resolution specifies the glorification of Nazism
And then leaves it up to local authoritarians to define “glorification,” which is exactly the problem with resolutions in conflict with freedom of expression.
As Nazism’s extreme nationalism advocated the extermination of an entire race/religion, I venture that Nazi speech doesn’t warrant protection
Advocating the extermination of an entire race/religion doesn’t warrant protection and is already not protected, so no change is needed there. That just leaves undefined “Nazi speech,” and the devil is, as usual, in the definitions.
Can’t help feeling NZ’s sponsorship of the SC resolution was a favour to the departing Obama, who relished the opportunity to sock it to Netenyahu.The only time the US abstained on this issue.
And NZ quickly backed down
But from the trio above, there are watchers ready to dispute any mention that relates to their particular sensitivity, ready to ambush commenters no matter how mild or factual related.
The forked tongue of deceiving politicians and the powerful. Using the word ‘political’ as a negative, so implying that it is somehow unacceptable to normal discourse and concern. That is saying that our governments, the organisation of our lives isn’t our concern?!! What is the next word that they will plaster with doggie do? All very Orwellian*.
John Key criticised a matter raised before one of his elections as ‘political’ and implied therefore he shouldn’t have to respond to the matter. Bloody amazing. And even more amazing that we allow these greasy, wily types to carry on with this subterfuge.
* Newspeak – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
Newspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state and the setting of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), by George Orwell. … The long-term political purpose of the new language is for every member of the … among the parts of speech; (ii) the inflectional regularity in the construction and usages of words.
Sorry I got carried away and didn’t put the source for my comment – you might wonder who said something was political? I am referring to the quote in Fransesca’s comment at 8.
He [Murray McCully] replied that there was wording related to freedom of expression,and rights of peaceful assembly that were of concern .Pretty much word for word the US stance, which adds that as it is a Russian resolution, it is therefore invalid as it has been put forward for political reasons
And WtB
I wrote about Nautilus at 14/15 and oil rigs, and you are reminded of Oceania and sound rigs – interesting contrast.
I like the quote from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books. QUOTATION: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.” https://www.bartleby.com/73/2019.html
And someone suggesting that RedLogix might better be called WhiteLogix.
That makes me think of the Red Queen who liked to believe six impossible things before breakfast. “Alice laughed: “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.” “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Quotations/Dodgson.html
Also relevant to today’s reasoning and practice:
What I tell you three times is true.
The Hunting of the Snark.
“Then you should say what you mean,” the March Hare went on.
“I do, ” Alice hastily replied; “at least I mean what I say, that’s the same thing, you know.”
“Not the same thing a bit!” said the Hatter. “Why, you might just as well say that “I see what I eat” is the same thing as “I eat what I see!”
Alice in Wonderland.
“For a complete logical argument”, Arthur began with admirable solemnity, “we need two prim Misses –”
“Of course!” she interrupted. “I remember that word now. And they produce –”
“A Delusion,” said Arthur.
“Ye-es?” she said dubiously. “I don’t seem to remember that so well. But what is the whole argument called?”
“A Sillygism.”
Sylvie and Bruno.
Reading Carroll’s inventive prose, I wonder if it would be a good idea to think of a different and faster way than now of making good decisions for state and local action following the six impossible things each day before breakfast approach.
There would be a meeting of the Initiatives Group later to present them, then put them all on file, after choosing a likely few to be explored further. This by a small clique with an interest and expertise in the subject to see if they could be implemented, who they would benefit, what good they would provide to the whole community now and going forward, and what cost and whether they might save money and time in the long run. Present report to Pilot Action Group for discussion with likely receipt groups at appropriate locations for choice, which location acceptance, implementation and timeline.
I see RNZ Morning Report has been agog today with the possibility of new laws around hate speech.
For my two bobs worth, I utterly oppose hate speech laws. Why?
1/ Unless they are so tightly specific (as in the German anti-Nazi laws) as to be virtually useless in any practical sense they just become a circus for endless knee-jerk culture war clickbait, SJWs will endlessly report Mike Hosking and ZB, RWNJs will endlessly report anyone calling them RWNJs. The MSM will breathlessly report any and all of the professionally outraged Twitterati and they’ll then gleefully report on any moral panic/witch hunts/shit fights that play out as well.
2/ The UK indicates the police become the arbiters of acceptable speech. People will get prosecuted for teaching their dog to do a Nazi salute on Youtube, or making insulting jokes on social media about the Maori language if enough Kaumatua get a trembling lower lip and a tear in the eye over it.
3/ Hate speech laws are a distraction. Words only have agency bveyond the mere hurtful if the speaker some sort of constituency. A crazy dude ranting on the corner about Jewish banking conspiracies is just a crazy dude on the corner, unless he has a constituency of like minded people – and then the issue isn’t what he is saying, but rather why so many people believe it.
NZ already bans “hate speech” based on ethnicity or national origin, via the Human Rights Act, section 61 (yet another piece of legislation that’s in conflict with the Bill of Rights Act – oh, for a written constitution…). Fortunately, NZ cops haven’t yet taken up the invitation to become arbiters of acceptable speech, but the invitation is there.
If the government’s looking to put our legislation even further in conflict with the BoRA’s guarantee of freedom of expression, it’s presumably intended to apply to religious beliefs rather than ethnicity. That must be fought tooth and nail by anyone who gives a shit about freedom of religion.
Freedom of speech – what is it? Unbounded freedom of speech becomes a tool of harassment. Someone with an obsession about people like you calling out at you, even confronting you silently wherever you go, that’s a way around being called on ‘speech’.
And a civilised society – what is it? One with clean streets and neat frontages.
A Truman society where people are really interested in one another – being freely exploited on television?
Oh so sweet and theoretical. I do hope we will all reach that fairyland of peace, love and harmony (harmoney too), soon – on TS for a start.
Oh so sweet and theoretical. I do hope we will all reach that fairyland of peace, love and harmony
You misunderstand me; freedom of expression isn’t about peace, love and harmony. When people have serious and deeply held differences of opinion the resulting dialog is going to be long, heated and ugly to watch.
That is partly my point that you make RL in analysing the process of freedom of expression – it can be very hurtful and long. I don’t want to wait for ages to go through mediation, the Courts, requiring defensive measures if I am being harassed by someone. And when there are so many people with early dementia about, they can’t be reasoned with and shouldn’t be enabled to continue errant behaviour beyond a reasonable and occasional level. Toleration should not be one-sided.
I don’t agree that it is either/or – that the alternatives can’t be better. Balance that’s what we need, more fairness and less rights bandwagons filled with bottles of snake oil.
This is the way we bind people together – proud of you dunner people.
They came in their thousands to learn more about their Islamic neighbours during an open day at Dunedin’s mosque yesterday.
For many, it was their first time visiting a mosque. They were treated to warm Islamic hospitality, including traditional foods and information on the tenets of the faith.”
i would venture a guess that love would not have changed anything for the man who killed people who had their backs turned him, who were on their knees for prayer.
But yeah, it might enlighten a few who ate up the ‘all muslims are evil’ trope fed to them since 9/11 and continuously then.
Quietly smiled at good Methodist minister who did not want yoga classes being held in church hall – ‘It can’t be considered – it is an Eastern mystical tradition’ – or words very similar
He would have looked like a roman till he lifted his toga,
In Petronius’ Satiricon, it is stated that Jews and Nabateans (from today’s Jordan) have the same skin color as Romans; to pass for one of them all one needs is circumcision and ears piercing. But for a Roman to pass for a Gaul or an Aethiopian, it would require a white or black mask, respectively.
Hmmm took a while for Italians to be considered white.
“I understood this to be true after finishing historian David R. Roediger’s Working Toward Whiteness, a book about how new immigrants became white. Between 1886 and 1925, 13 million new immigrants came from southern, eastern and central Europe. Up until that point, people considered white generally hailed from England, the Netherlands, Ireland, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Roediger, a professor at University of Illinois, argues that new immigrants, until they were fully brought into the white family, lived in a state of in-betweeness, meaning they were placed in a racial pecking order below whites but above people of color.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrants-werent-always-considered-white-and-acceptable/amp/
There were huge migrations and turnover of peoples following the collapse of the Roman empire, with quite a lot of the movement south and south-west from central and northern Europe. Italy in Roman times wouldn’t have had many White people in it who weren’t slaves.
The dietry discrimination from the holy roman empire promulgated the schism and reformation.
Like swift in the incessant battle of little endians and big endians,Martin Luther nailed his menu to the door,formulating the reformation and battle between the butter eaters and the olive oil eaters.
“Iwi are pleased that Government has decided to work in partnership with us to develop a plan to implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples,” said National Iwi Chairs spokesperson Professor Margaret Mutu.
“In addition to building and strengthening relations between the Crown and Rangatira, a national plan of action will improve outcomes for our whānau and all New Zealanders. We have wanted this to happen since government gave its support for the Declaration in 2010 and we acknowledge the leadership provided by Minister Mahuta to make it a reality.”
Pita Sharples worked hard to get JK on board with this. JK approved with the proviso the declaration could not override local law (or to that effect).
I think the issue now is giving the document (UNDRIP) some weight?
Margaret is good people, a diplomat who brooks no nonsense. Be interesting how this pans out.
Labour was concerned it added complexity to treaty issues, probably went in the too hard basket without that much thought. But Labour has better leadership now.
the floor was polished
and clacked
with footfall and they lay
quietly disemboweled,
and were viewed.
a card explained: revered once, then dis
repair, now look
their mauri is strong. so they
say breezelessly.
I saw the Maori Jesus
Walking on Wellington Harbour.
He wore blue dungarees,
His beard and hair were long.
His breath smelled of mussels and paraoa.
When he smiled it looked like the dawn.
When he broke wind the little fishes trembled.
When he frowned the ground shook.
When he laughed everybody got drunk.
The Maori Jesus came on shore
And picked out his twelve disciples.
One cleaned toilets in the railway station;
His hands were scrubbed red to get the **** out of the pores.
One was a call-girl who turned it up for nothing.
One was a housewife who had forgotten the Pill
And stuck her TV set in the ******* can.
One was a little office clerk
Who’d tried to set fire to the Government Buldings.
Yes, and there were several others;
One was a sad old queen;
One was an alcoholic priest
Going slowly mad in a respectable parish.
The Maori Jesus said, ‘Man,
From now on the sun will shine.’
He did no miracles;
He played the guitar sitting on the ground.
The first day he was arrested
For having no lawful means of support.
The second day he was beaten up by the cops
For telling a dee his house was not in order.
The third day he was charged with being a Maori
And given a month in Mt Crawford.
The fourth day he was sent to Porirua
For telling a ***** the sun would stop rising.
The fifth day lasted seven years
While he worked in the Asylum laundry
Never out of the steam.
The sixth day he told the head doctor,
‘I am the Light in the Void;
I am who I am.’
The seventh day he was lobotomised;
The brain of God was cut in half.
On the eighth day the sun did not rise.
It did not rise the day after.
God was neither alive nor dead.
The darkness of the Void,
Mountainous, mile-deep, civilised darkness
Sat on the earth from then till now.
Reflects my dismay at the City and sea museum in Wellington.
Gutted the maritime displays, special to generations who worked on fishing boats and merchant ships out of Wellington, in favour of some boring “Windows” with objects, as if all those workers, didn’t exist.
Yes Marty; regarding your comment on 11.
‘Good stuff – more progress – yay’ about UN human rights,- uuuummm
We ‘disabled’ want to see the 2010 Declaration of NZ submission on ‘Human rights of disabled persons’ also come to fruition.
As Maori Party Co-Leader at that time was Tariana Turia n handling that UN declaration on Human rights, and we disabled also included input to her modelled submission so we all had some involvement in putting it together when Tariana Turia held her public Panel called ‘bang on the table.’
We had high hopes in receiving support as we got an addition added to her NZ UN Declaration’ then; – but nothing ever happened to give us any support or recognition.
In the early days of the new Israel I think they laid plastic sheets on the sand and planted through it and created the green heart of today’s Israel. Pity they couldn’t help Palestine to do the same instead of shooting/bombing them.
Hey! What if a Political Party in NZ adopted the tree planting scheme.
Like splitting Palestine in half to both lots of people they, the Western victors, promised it to, during WW2, and instituted a Marshall plan and compensation for the displaced.
As they did in Europe.
Instead of spending billions on arming one side.
But. A peaceful and united Middle East, was never part of the plan.
Whatever one might think of Martyn Bradbury, he has a right to an open hearing where all the evidence is available to him and his legal team.
There is one possibility though and I emphasize it’s just a possibility:
The police’s action with regard to Martyn Bradbury was likely the result of a formal instruction complaint laid by a high profile person. It is possible that is the reason for the request for a closed hearing. The police don’t want to reveal that person’s identity to Bradbury or indeed the public.
Very strange Anne. Wonder if a Judge has the power to overturn the secrecy?
Must be awful to be “tried” without knowing what the evidence against you was. Repeating the Hager case?
@ ianmac
It was all about the book “Dirty Politics” and the hacking of Slater’s emails by Rawshark. My pick is:
Someone – or someone on behalf of someone 😉 – pointed the finger at Martyn Bradbury as an accessory after the fact? Which could be why they wanted to have a look at Bradbury’s bank statements – to see if there was any evidence by way of travel arrangements or payment made to ‘a person of interest’.
In short, the officers on the case were so blindsided by their own political bias they allowed themselves to run amok, dumping on anyone associated with the case who was regarded as coming from the wrong side of the political tracks. That included Nicky Hager of course.
There are good. rational and principled cops.
There are bad, irrational and unprincipled cops.
I hope in the end Bradbury also gets a payment… to which he is entitled given the hit to his reputation and probably his personal life.
Seems like the government policy of transparency does not extend to the judiciary. A privileged caste. Believers still in the patriarchal doctrine that justice is theirs, to be dispensed from on high, and provision is for those carefully selected – not for all.
I agree with Idiot/Savant – that they are operating a bullshit scheme. Why would the bomber expect the system to deliver according to the principle of natural justice? Still naïve after all these years??
We smaller countries are being exploited by the large players, we should remember this. We opened our doors in 1984 to them and know as a country who a home invasion is like. But how do we turn away from our Brexit from the world of individual nations exerting some intelligent, forward-thinking authority for ourselves and not exploiting others similarly to that being practised on us?
https://www.toddenergy.co.nz/exploration/
While actively managing our current permits, Todd Energy is continually re-evaluating and assessing new opportunities to ensure secure energy supplies for New Zealanders into the future.
Are they one of the consortium talking up producing hydrogen in Taranaki? What other forms of energy are they envisaging and researching? I wonder if the increased R&D allocations by govt are proving useful for this?
I understand we cannot do anything about existing permits because of ISDS clauses in trade agreements.
Because the short sighted clots that signed them, knew their idealogy would not legislate for environmental or human interest against corporations. So they didn’t consider it important.
Great new ideas – no problems about worrying about obtaining the resources we want to sell, just mine the seabed! Brave New World! A bit of background for those who are not knowledgable but interested like me, in the various machinations of business and how they interlock.
This morning on Radionz: https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/386015/png-seabed-mining-company-delisted-from-stock-exchange
(Look what it does to the seabed as part of its operations.)
1 April 2019 (Not fooling around)
PNG seabed mining company delisted from stock exchange
The company behind a troubled deep sea mining project in Papua New Guinea has suffered another blow in its delisting from a major stock exchange.
In recent months, Nautilus Minerals has taken out millions in loans, obtained a court protection order against its creditors and put its assets up for sale.
The company, which was to mine the sea floor between New Ireland and New Britain, said its common shares on the Toronto Stock Exchange would be delisted this Wednesday.
In a statement Nautilus said it unsuccessfully tried to appeal the decision and its common shares had been suspended from trading.
Earlier this year:
Jan 2019 NZ https://www.nzresources.com/showarticle.aspx?id=12447
21/1/2019 — Other Minerals and Metals
Nautilus gets latest loan
The aspiring seabed miner Nautilus Minerals Inc (TSX: NUS; OTC: NUSMF) has overcome its immediate hurdle of its next tranche of capital to help complete the mining and shipping equipment for its venture in Papua New Guinea.
The company announced late last week that it had received a new loan from Deep Sea Mining Finance Ltd* for $US500,000 as part of its secured structured credit facility of up to $US34 million.
The funds are for the seafloor massive sulphides project in the Bismarck Sea known as Solwara-1 which contained high grade copper, gold and other minerals.
What is DSMF? and Who?
* Deep Sea Mining Finance Ltd. https://www.banktrack.org/news/investor_alert_deep_sea_mining_project_in_lastditch_search_for_capital
In a last ditch bid to rescue its experimental deep sea mining project ”Solwara 1”, the two largest shareholders of Nautilus Minerals Inc, Russian mining company Metalloinvest and Omani conglomerate MB Holdings, have formed a new company whose sole job is to secure funding for the project by October 31st [1].
It is expected that the first call will be on existing financiers of Nautilus, Metalloinvest and MB Holdings. These include HSBC (United Kingdom), ING Group (Netherlands), BNP Paribas and Société Générale (France); ABN Amro (Netherlands), and Unicredit (Italy) [2].
The Deep Sea Mining Campaign (DSMC) and BankTrack are calling on the banks to publicly distance themselves from this financially and ecologically risky project.
Background to Toronto, Province of Ontario, Canada (city where the Mayor Rob Ford, built like a bouncer, ran at and knocked over an older woman councillor; also took crack, had trouble at home involving call for police help. Apparently a rough and ready city with likely same business style, When he died, his brother Doug Ford took over his Council electorate, and Doug is now Premier of the State of Ontario – with a populist approach.)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwzCj5NT8Cc
Doug Ford –
31/1/2019 The federal carbon levy Doug Ford calls a ‘job-killing’ tax starts Monday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/new-carbon-tax-starts-coming-in-for-4-provinces-that-fought-the-federal-plan
GWS; – yes my old second home of ‘Toronto’ is now a pretty polluted place to be now as the last time I left (1998).the red sunset of pollution was becoming worse than when I first went there from NZ in 1968.
The Toronto skyline is defined as a ‘red sunset’- when the air pollution settles on the horizon as it’s own ‘generated clouds of vehicle,and industrial pollution joins together with the winds bringing north from Detroit and Chicago across Lake Ontario to make a thick large blanket of pollution that in the evening is seen as a ‘red sunset’.
In 1968 it was a thin pink cloud.and then in 1998 was so red it looked like the sky was bleeding.
it looks like they are instituting a ‘secret police’ unit, and that is very bad for us all.
Where is our ‘warm caring, compassionate, transparent’ Government now????
“It promotes, encourages and justifies acts of murder and terrorist violence against identified groups of people,”
“It identifies specific places for potential attack in New Zealand, and refers to the means by which other types of attack may be carried out. It contains justifications for acts of tremendous cruelty, such as the deliberate killing of children.”
Banning this is what a recent several days long fight here was for. The mealy mouthed fuckers who got offended by me swearing at them were fighting for the dissemination of this garbage.
“Free speech”
I hope you are ashamed. I will try to curb my language. Could you please try not to be so ******* clueless.
No I am not ashamed. There are two clear aspects to this; one is that if the manifesto directly promotes and incites physical violence, then existing law is more than adequate to justify banning it. Open and shut case.
The same principle has always applied to moderation here; say anything that incites violence, even indirectly, and you will almost certainly get a permanent ban.
At the same time there is also a wider public interest case that rests on the example of books like Mein Kampf, or Das Kapital that were never banned despite the millions who died as direct consequence of them. There are many, many similar massacres and horrors that we have documented in great detail, as a stark signposts to hell.
For very good reason the we have learned to be wary of book burning; it never leads anywhere good. The problem is always this; who does the banning?
Two different principles in conflict. My suggested resolution is for the ban on the manifesto to be time limited, maybe five or ten years, as a compromise that both sides of the argument could tolerate.
“It’s when people believe they are always 100% right on something that they become extremists, unable to be reasoned with, and implacably convinced of their superiority. Like our shooter.” – RedLogix 17/03
“Justice Minister Andrew Little says he’s fast-tracking a law review which could see hate crimes made a new legal offence. He said the current law on hate speech was not thorough and strong enough and needed to change.”
He stopped just short of saying “Dennis Frank is right”. I opined that the reason the law hasn’t been used is that it ain’t fit for purpose. I explicitly identified the lack of an attached definition of hate speech as the primary reason for no prosecution.
“Mr Little said the Christchurch shootings highlighted the need for a better mechanism to deal with incidents of hate speech and other hateful deeds.”
At the time, Maori historian Paul Moon “released an open letter signed by 27 New Zealanders including Don Brash and Tariana Turia, warning free speech is under threat.” I wonder if Paul has changed his mind?
It’s amazing how little imagination authoritarians have, that they can never seem to visualise how these new powers they so enthusiastically grant the state, could be so easily used against them.
How hard for instance would it be to get the NZ1 party manifesto banned on the grounds that it was ‘hate speech’?
So difficult that no leftist opponent of NZF has even suggested doing so, even though many have complained about their anti-immigration policy since the nineties. Their irrational inconsistency seems inexplicable…
I was talking about folk trying to discuss the manifesto and banging on about free speech to justify it. you led this vile charge. It was not about NZ1st you change the subject in your dishonest way you are being a deliberately misleading shit as usual. You were all gung ho for discussing the crap here and I jumped on you for it because you’re a worthless prick of a man when it comes to peoples feelings.
I’ve really tried to lend you some rope because sometimes you have something but it’s just dig dig dig every fucking comment lefties are idiots Dennis Frank is great what a fucking joke of a man.
I accept that new laws on “hate speech” is opening up a can of worms because everyone has a slightly different idea what constitutes hate speech. However, if they are able to come up with something totally definitive in the sense that the law could not be misinterpreted and it applied only to the more vile examples, then I would support such a move.
I only wish “hate deeds” had been a criminal offence 20 plus years ago. I was a victim of such deeds (albeit linked to political ideology – not racism or religion) and it would have been nice to have been able to seek and obtain justice for what was done. As it was, the police were not interested. They certainly would be now but it’s too late.
It was the same approach I advocated around moderation here for years; hammer the worst and most egregious examples at the margins, and leave the rest to sort themselves out. It’s an idea a good Dutch mate of mine described to me decades ago.
Another way of putting it, always use the minimum force necessary to achieve the desired goal. Otherwise the cure is likely to be worse than the problem you are trying to solve.
Even the current law struggles to define ‘hate speech’. All other categories of crime are connected to something concrete or measurable. But hate is an entirely abstract and subjective concept. Beyond the obvious problem of where to draw the line there is the question of exactly how to legally define the impact.
For example, Brian Tamaki’s ridiculous rant about gays and earthquakes was probably greeted by many in the gay community with gales of laughter; but then some may have felt the offense quite deeply. Yet assuming all gay people think and feel the same is the very definition of prejudice, but any law would have to assume this was the case right from the outset.
The reality is that if you say anything serious at all, someone will be offended. This place proves that if nothing else.
Ah, but you can’t expect a QC to put their money where their mouth is, eh? They need to save all those zillions of dollars for a rainy day.
“Frances Joychild QC does not think a successful case could be mounted against Brian Tamaki in relation to sexual harassment following his speech blaming gay people for the earthquakes.”
👦 Mercenary not a good look for QCs. They be above the fray. Crusading moral advocacy ain’t even a career path here, as far as I can tell, despite being so prominent & traditional in the US legal scene…
Not really; it’s just my training and career that inclines me to think like this. Automation would be easy if nothing ever went wrong, getting the machine or process to do what you expect it to do is usually the easy part. 80% or more of the job is dealing with all the things that can and do go wrong.
Engineering risk management is all about estimating likelihoods and unintended consequences. I’ve spent months sitting through HAZOP meetings; grinding through plant designs in brain crushing detail; methodically deriving and estimating the hazards, then tediously working through the pros and cons of each mitigation.
On here I guess this has carried over into my annoying habit of looking to see where an argument or line of reasoning can go wrong, what it’s weak point’s are and what the counter argument might be. I can see how others can perceive that as egg-headed, cool and aloof.
A very old mate of mine once described me as ‘too neurotic to be a psychopath, but not smart enough to be a proper Aspie’ 🙂
Also I’m naturally inclined to make a defense case for lost causes. It doesn’t make me popular, but you would probably quite like me as your barrister.
What about zen? Aren’t practitioners to be found strolling about wooded glades in Asia, doing one-sided arguing? In anticipation of applause via the sound of one hand clapping…
The other day, me, myself, and I had a huge fight about something so stupid I can’t even remember. I won and was almightily pleased with myself who gave me a pat on the back. Afterwards, I had a few drinks with all three of us and it was such fun to be on speaking terms and together again; the silent treatment from myself had been killing me and I couldn’t do anything about it. Kindness goes a long way and let that be a lesson for all of us.
Great start. And more must be done to eliminate all of this and start getting sustainable. Plus too often ‘down the hole’ is the main way of getting rid of anything.
“Associate Environment Minister Eugenie Sage today announced $381,000 in Government funding to enable farmers and growers to better deal with waste.
The funding, from the Ministry for the Environment’s Waste Minimisation Fund, will mean farmers and growers can more easily recycle or safely dispose of a wider range of on-farm waste such as agrichemicals, scrap metal, soft plastics and used oil.”
We should be re-using engine oil again not disposing of it by re- refining it again.
I lived in Canada and US for 15 yrs, and bought ‘re- refined oil’ that was given back into ‘safe oil deposit centres’ usually they were in most ‘motor parts’ stores.
Thus far, the Greens have done little for low income earners and in my view are unlikely to be widely seen as living up to Metiria Turei’s cause. Hence, the Greens being in power has been a failing from the left perspective.
And what about on the environmental front? Have the Greens done enough in power to appease the environmentalist and fend off a new challenge from TOP?
“TOP just lost their cheque book and their biggest obstacle.”
That hasn’t stopped them from vying to win-over the Green vote. And the withdrawal of their biggest obstacle will better their chances. Helped along by the Greens lacklustre performance in power.
Not sure about that. The Greens are known for shooting themselves in the foot and killing off their own support. Let alone the prospect of being challenged by another Green party.
And to think, one of the reasons Shaw was brought into the leadership was the notion he would increase their support.
On a side note, one wonders how much effort the Greens put into securing more for the sick and unemployed?
Their recent support level of around 7% is historically low (recent) so would indicate a relatively staunch base support level…to remove 15 -30 % of that would appear to me to be highly unlikely…any blue /green party will take their support largely from elsewhere…IMO mainly National
“Their recent support level of around 7% is historically low (recent) so would indicate a relatively staunch base support level”
Yet, with them in power and securing wins their support should be at a high. The fact that it isn’t should be a concern.
If TOP stated new policy that appealed to the left/centre, they would widen their appeal and become more of a threat. And with the Greens in such a precarious position they can’t afford to be to laid-back about it.
Helped along by the Greens lacklustre performance in power.
Yes, who could have predicted that a party with as much as 6% of the vote would fail to dominate the government’s agenda? Incompetence is the only possible answer, right?
Who could have expected them to get more than a ban on further oil exploration that’s been a free gift for opposition propaganda against the major coalition partner, a zero-carbon bill that’s going to be the same, a big increase in DoC funding, etc etc, all achieved against the strong opposing force of a conservative coalition partner that got a higher percentage of the vote than them? Who indeed? Only the most disingenuous of anti-Green propagandists, I expect.
Think of me what you wish but I’m not the problem for the Greens. Sure, they’ve had some wins, but will it be enough to maintain their support, especially when challenged?
Gun Shops.
I have no interest in fire arms themselves.
But just a question, why aren’t the outlets for guns situated in or next to police stations.
In fact, if you could only buy them through the police …
Nine people have died in three separate car crashes this morning
1 April 2019
The latest, is a man whose car plunged into the water near Auckland Airport just after 1am.
Why . The cops are busy enough.
Just regulate what can be brought. And keep a register of all guns . I voluntarily registered mine when I renewed my license recently.
But think of the education of the intelligensia. How can they pontificate on matters they know nothing of if they can’t commiserate with the terrorists by walking mental miles in their shoes.
Think of the tragedy of books lost to mankind forever. Think of the potential loss of information in the age of the internet, this desert of dedicated dissemination of dross.
I taught some prisoners to write poetry once, as an emotional outlet. One guy fancied himself rather clever, a level of delusion similar to a certain praxis posting ponce here. He photocopied his poetry and accompanying sketches (skulls, breasts, snakes, knives) and intimidated people into buying copies for $10.
The first poem. Untitled.
‘She had the greatest tits I’ve ever seen…’
Now, call me a disrespectful asshole but I think A LOT of literature could be burnt and nobody would ever miss it. Including most poetry.
Kia ora The AM Show.
don’t you think all the bad news about The America Cup is actually bad for the competition.????????? Moving it to Tauranga ain’t going to make it more viable NO.The America Cup draws in the billionaire punters
frazer is using the christchurch desaster as a tool for his publicity no one knew who he was before this any publicity is good publicity.
”I’ The scammers love gullible people they play you like a jutebox be careful people you could lose more than money they can steal your reality.
The sandflys are in the same league they are spinning about my reality my neighbours watch them break into my house they will be getting blinded by the sandflys big shiny badges what a joke
Niki Wahine need to be payed Equally as men after all its the Wahine that look after the mokos when things go wrong I also back pay equality as that will give Wahine more power and BIGGER VOICES and influence on the Papatuanukue stage.
Respect needs to be given and it was cool that the Prime Minister showed that after the christchurch desaster.
Respect needs to be valued more on Papatuanukue respect for humanity respect from mother nature respect every one Ka kite ano
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In 2003, the Court of Appeal delivered its decision in Ngati Apa v Attorney-General, ruling that Māori customary title over the foreshore and seabed had not been universally extinguished, and that the Māori Land Court could determine claims and confirm title if the facts supported it. This kicked off the ...
Earlier this week at Parliament, Labour leader Chris Hipkins was applauded for saying that the response to the final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care had to be “bigger than politics.” True, but the fine words, apologies and “we hear you” messages will soon ring ...
TL;DR: In news breaking this morning:The Ministry of Education is cutting $2 billion from its school building programme so the National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government has enough money to deliver tax cuts; The Government has quietly lowered its child poverty reduction targets to make them easier to achieve;Te Whatu Ora-Health NZ’s ...
Kia ora. These are some stories that caught our eye this week – as always, feel free to share yours in the comments. Our header image this week (via Eke Panuku) shows the planned upgrade for the Karanga Plaza Tidal Swimming Steps. The week in Greater Auckland On ...
1. What's not to love about the way the Harris campaign is turning things around?a. Nothingb. Love all of itc. God what a reliefd. Not that it will be by any means easye. All of the above 2. Documents released by the Ministry of Health show Associate Health Minister Casey ...
Trust in me in all you doHave the faith I have in youLove will see us through, if only you trust in meWhy don't you, you trust me?In a week that saw the release of the 3,000 page Abuse in Care report Christopher Luxon was being asked about Boot Camps. ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking about the Royal Commission Inquiry into Abuse in Carereport released this week, and with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent on a UN push to not recognise carbon offset markets and ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 26, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Transport: Simeon Brown announced$802.9 million in funding for 18 new trains on the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines, which ...
The northern expressway extension from Warkworth to Whangarei is likely to require radical changes to legislation if it is going to be built within the foreseeable future. The Government’s powers to purchase land, the planning process and current restrictions on road tolling are all going to need to be changed ...
Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when publishedFirst they came for the doctors But I was confused by the numbers and costs So I didn't speak up Then they came for our police and nurses And I didn't think we could afford those costs anyway So I ...
Photo by Joshua J. Cotten on UnsplashWe’re back again after our mid-winter break. We’re still with the ‘new’ day of the week (Thursday rather than Friday) when we have our ‘hoon’ webinar with paying subscribers to The Kākā for an hour at 5 pm.Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream ...
Notes: This is a free article. Abuse in Care themes are mentioned. Video is at the bottom.BackgroundYesterday’s report into Abuse in Care revealed that at least 1 in 3 of all who went through state and faith based care were abused - often horrifically. At least, because not all survivors ...
Luxon speaks in Parliament yesterday about the Abuse in Care report. Photo: Hagen Hopkins/Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:PM Christopher Luxon said yesterday in tabling the Abuse in Carereport in Parliament he wanted to ‘do the ...
About a decade ago I worked with a bloke called Steve. He was the grizzled veteran coder, a few years older than me, who knew where the bodies were buried - code wise. Despite his best efforts to be approachable and friendly he could be kind of gruff, through to ...
Some of the recent announcements from the government have reminded us of posts we’ve written in the past. Here’s one from early 2020. There were plenty of reactions to the government’s infrastructure announcement a few weeks ago which saw them fund a bunch of big roading projects. One of ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Thursday, July 25 are:News: Why Electric Kiwi is closing to new customers - and why it matters RNZ’s Susan EdmundsScoop: Government drops ...
Hi,I felt a small wet tongue snaking through one of the holes in my Crocs. It explored my big toe, darting down one side, then the other. “He’s looking for some toe cheese,” said the woman next to me, words that still haunt me to this day.Growing up in New ...
Yesterday I happily quoted the Prime Minister without fact-checking him and sure enough, it turns out his numbers were all to hell. It’s not four kg of Royal Commission report, it’s fourteen.My friend and one-time colleague-in-comms Hazel Phillips gently alerted me to my error almost as soon as I’d hit ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Thursday, July 25, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day were:The Abuse in Care Royal Commission of Inquirypublished its final report yesterday.PM Christopher Luxon and The Minister responsible for ...
The Official Information Act has always been a battle between requesters seeking information, and governments seeking to control it. Information is power, so Ministers and government agencies want to manage what is released and when, for their own convenience, and legality and democracy be damned. Their most recent tactic for ...
TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:Transport and Energy Minister Simeon Brown is accelerating plans to spend at least $10 billion through Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) to extend State Highway One as a four-lane ‘Expressway’ from Warkworth to Whangarei ...
I live my life (woo-ooh-ooh)With no control in my destinyYea-yeah, yea-yeah (woo-ooh-ooh)I can bleed when I want to bleedSo come on, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)You can bleed when you want to bleedYea-yeah, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)Everybody bleed when they want to bleedCome on and bleedGovernments face tough challenges. Selling unpopular decisions to ...
Please note:To skip directly to the- parliamentary footage in the video, scroll to 1:21 To skip to audio please click on the headphone iconon the left hand side of the screenThis video / audio section is under development. ...
Given the crackdown on wasteful government spending, it behooves me to point to a high profile example of spending by the Luxon government that looks like a big, fat waste of time and money. I’m talking about the deployment of NZDF personnel to support the US-led coalition in the Red ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:40 am on Wednesday, July 24 are:Deep Dive: Chipping away at the housing crisis, including my comments RNZ/Newsroom’s The DetailNews: Government softens on asset sales, ...
As I reported about the city centre, Auckland’s rail network is also going through a difficult and disruptive period which is rapidly approaching a culmination, this will result in a significant upgrade to the whole network. Hallelujah. Also like the city centre this is an upgrade predicated on the City ...
Today, a 4 kilogram report will be delivered to Parliament. We know this is what the report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care weighs, because our Prime Minister told us so.Some reporter had blindsided him by asking a question about something done by ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Wednesday, July 24, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Beehive:Transport Minister Simeon Brownannounced plans to use PPPs to fund, build and run a four-lane expressway between Auckland ...
NewstalkZB host Mike Hosking, who can usually be relied on to give Prime Minister Christopher Luxon an easy run, did not do so yesterday when he interviewed him about the HealthNZ deficit. Luxon is trying to use a deficit reported last year by HealthNZ as yet another example of the ...
Back in January a StatsNZ employee gave a speech at Rātana on behalf of tangata whenua in which he insulted and criticised the government. The speech clearly violated the principle of a neutral public service, and StatsNZ started an investigation. Part of that was getting an external consultant to examine ...
Renting for life: Shared ownership initiatives are unlikely to slow the slide in home ownership by much. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:A Deloittereport for Westpac has projected Aotearoa’s home-ownership rate will ...
You're broken down and tiredOf living life on a merry go roundAnd you can't find the fighterBut I see it in you so we gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsWe gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsAnd I'll rise upI'll rise like the dayI'll rise upI'll rise unafraidI'll rise upAnd I'll ...
There’s been a change in Myers Park. Down the steps from St. Kevin’s Arcade, past the grassy slopes, the children’s playground, the benches and that goat statue, there has been a transformation. The underpass for Mayoral Drive has gone from a barren, grey, concrete tunnel, to a place that thrums ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections Global society may have finally slammed on the brakes for climate-warming pollution released by human fossil fuel combustion. According to the Carbon Monitor Project, the total global climate pollution released between February and May 2024 declined slightly from the amount released during the same ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Tuesday, July 23 are:Deep Dive: Penlink: where tolling rhetoric meets reality BusinessDesk-$$$’sOliver LewisScoop:Te Pūkenga plans for regional polytechs leak out ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Tuesday, July 23, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Health: Shane Reti announcedthe Board of Te Whatu Ora-Health New Zealand was being replaced with Commissioner Lester Levy ...
Health NZ warned the Government at the end of March that it was running over Budget. But the reasons it gave were very different to those offered by the Prime Minister yesterday. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon blamed the “botched merger” of the 20 District Health Boards (DHBs) to create Health ...
Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
As a momentous, historic weekend in US politics unfolded, analysts and commentators grasped for precedents and comparisons to help explain the significance and power of the choice Joe Biden had made. The 46th president had swept the Democratic party’s primaries but just over 100 days from the election had chosen ...
TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
Te Rangi e tu nei (The sky above us) Te Papa e takoto nei (The land beneath us) Tatou katoa te hunga ora (To us all the living) Tena koutou katoa (Greetings) ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
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… ” Pi said he believed one reason for such violent behaviour among the young was that China’s education system focused too much on hate instead of love.
“We do not have education about love. We believe this is something from and of the West. Instead, we have plenty of violent heroes in textbooks for students to learn from”…
Norman Greenbaum – Spirit In The Sky – YouTube
Tai Chi , … codified sword moves. They are EXACTLY the same as the guard and strike positions I taught using the European long sword and single sword techniques. Langswert in German. Just slowed down for muscular tensions.
Tai Chi Chuan stile Yang: la forma 10 – YouTube
Did Tai Chi for a few months, all slow motion type training. Thought it was ridiculous.
Months later someone tried to blindside me with a roundhouse kick I dropped them without even thinking, before my thoughts had even registered the attack they were on the ground. Previously matched opponents can barely touch me.
I imagine true mastery of such an art would be hilarious where bullies wear themselves out punching air. Amazing discipline.
It is , actually… now… not many people would realize this , but the European Waltz was designed for Cavalry soldiers,- moreso Officers.
That One , two , three, one , two three step motion is the codified form of the saber footwork…. it is identical, and was in fact designed for that purpose.
It achieved the same thing, fitness, agility and dexterity … it is ALL in the footwork. The Maoris did the same in incorporating the movement’s of animals.
Its called ‘ bio-mechanics’ in the game.
Thanks WK that was enlightening.
It’s amazing how muscle memory kicks in when it’s needed. The waltz aye, who’d have thought.
Yeah mate ,… here’s a site I fed off for years, … they talk about over 60 manuals written by the Europeans ,… I have the one by Talhoffer and a few others. They don’t play act , … they have many PHD’s in metallurgy , history and academics with a practical application. They don’t mess around.
ARMA Director bio – Association for Renaissance Martial Arts
http://www.thearma.org/Director.htm
The bastard sword, the long sword or hand and a half sword ( all the same thing ) was reputedly the weapon that claimed more lives than any other sword type up to and including in the age of early gun powder.
Simply because of its great versatility. It was a military sword,… the rapier was a civilian dueling sword. The English despised the rapier.It wasn’t until very , very late into the Renaissance that it was finally phased out. It was then that the Calvary saber took its place in the age of the musket.
The movie industry has taught us that martial arts are things that only exist in Asian cultures. As if people weren’t trying to kill each other for thousands of years in the West.
Briefly did ballrom dancing evening classes – one step I was particularly good at was the chassé where the step to the side is followed by a cross behind with the trailing foot then another step to the side.
Exactly the same movement as a side kick with an extra deep backstep to close the gap more quickly from a distance.
I was looking at the tango danced lovingly and lots of fancy footwork there.
Miles away from the folk dancing, the veleta etc that we learned at school. Watching the tango moves, and I thought just as well.
Ah, the dance of luuurrrrvvee.
Sadly, I’m more of a Fester. 🙁
That was really something – I don’t know how to describe it! I loved the cliche champagne corks popping and frothing. Very cleverly stage effects.
I totally recommend anything with Raul Julia in it. He’s been in some crap movies, but as far as I’ve gotten with his ouvre it seems that the bigger the turd, the more brightly he shines like a diamond.
He’s blinding in Streetfighter 🙂
I’ll look out for it on youtube.
Dance has (and still is) used for a number of reasons by the military. Fitness and agility is important. The Scottish regiments still use dance today. Scottish country dance not only requires fitness it also promotes teamwork as 8 or 10 dances work together to provide a pattern and formations, much like a rugby team train together on a movement where team work and timing is important.
One of the most famous (within Scottish circles) is The Reel of the 51st Division. The dance was written by Lieutenant J.E.M. ‘Jimmy’ Atkinson of the 7th Battalion The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders while in a POW camp during the Second World War. Captured together with the vast majority of the British 51st (Highland) Division during the Battle of Dunkirk in 1940, Atkinson spent the rest of the war as a POW in Germany. His idea of a reel with a Saint Andrew′s Cross in its key formation was intended to symbolise Scotland and the Highland Division, in adversity.
Atkinson’s letter home with instructions for the dance was intercepted by the German security service, the Abwehr, who spent the rest of the war trying to break the code. However, another version of the dance reached Scotland where it was published while Atkinson was still a POW and became instantly popular.
It is often danced in a set composed entirely of men.
Fascinating – I guess that the Scots love of fitness, action and dancing, inter-relationships with bands and pipes, and vitality for their country shown in battles for Scottish sovereignty – all go together to produce the Tattoos which are remarkable.
Incidentally thinking about POWs I have just read a remarkable book called The Man who broke into Auschwitz and the title is just part of a gripping and poignant true story by Denis Avey.
I was thinking of the story I read about the the Cretans Natural Born Heroes and their fitness and sureness of foot on their stony island and looked up their dances.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsqPINgzR3c&list=PL0C1A9CF643F412CB&index=3
Like this Greek one – version of Zorba.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbmbSjeUrxc
Other countries without so much uptightness as it seems NZs, westerners have, know how to have a good community event.
Zorba and the other dances are complicated. I was shown how to do it when i shipped to UK on the Fairstar or Fairsky in the 70’s. We could still travel that way if we
didn’t have planes you know. It was enjoyable, took a month?
Usually, breaking plates in praise of a musician or dancer is considered a part of kefi, the irrepressible expression of emotion and joy.Mar 17, 2019,
https://www.tripsavvy.com/greek-plate-smashing-tradition-1524266
Let’s have more kefi with or without plates.
One of the reasons I enjoy Scottish country dancing is because it is open to many different interpretations. People with a mathematical bend take to it instantly for this reason because it is full of interesting and repeating patterns. Prof of mathematics at VUW Rob Downey, (the most recent recipient of the Rutherford Medal) for instance is one such, and has devised a number of dances as you can see here:
https://www.scottish-country-dancing-dictionary.com/rod-downey.html
He is not the only mathematician to do so.
Hugh Foss was another:
Hugh Rose Foss (13 May 1902 – 23 December 1971) was a British cryptanalyst. At Bletchley Park during World War II he made significant contributions both to the breaking of the German Enigma code and headed the section tasked with breaking Japanese Naval codes.
Many of Hugh Foss’s dances are amongst the most popular of dances in SCD.
https://www.scottish-country-dancing-dictionary.com/hugh-foss.html
John Drewry who devised over 800 dances was a biochemist at Edinburgh University.
There are literally thousands of dances now in the repertoire. but learning and dancing new dances is not as daunting as it may sound. Each dance will employ a set of different figures, repeated in a certain order to create the new dance. It then becomes a simple matter of remembering the order and going with the flow.
Feast your eyes on this: Russian soldiers dancing to music by Boney M.
Did some Morris dancing on a marae one Waitangi Day, and the taiaha warriors saw a strong relationship with stick dancing and the taiaha. In olde England when the peasantry were forbade swords by the ruling classes, the English stave was used instead as a weapon and Morris stick dancing uses some of the strikes and blocks from that form.
These chaps do a good turn at Morris Dancing
Good this person is being sorted. A weak man followed by even weaker people. Some on this site have talked about crisis actors – I hope they stfu now and hold their tiny heads in shame.
“In a video released Friday, Jones acknowledged in a sworn deposition stemming from a lawsuit filed by the families of Sandy Hook victims that the school shooting was in fact real. Jones blamed the “trauma of the media and the corporations lying so much” for triggering his extreme distrust in news and information.”
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/31/18289271/alex-jones-psychosis-conspiracies-sandy-hook-hoax
Jones probably wouldn’t have a platform if the media did it’s job and reported facts.
Instead all we get is Trump impeachment fairy tales and Russian conspiracy theories.
You’re one of the ones saying crisis actors weren’t you? When are you going to admit you’re so in the wrong and you’ve hurt people already hurting?
…’ Instead all we get is Trump impeachment fairy tales and Russian conspiracy theories ‘…
If the cap fits,… wear it , marty…
Lol go away – you’re a thicko bud – put another stupid vid up lol havent seen a bigfoot little hand one for a while ha ha ha
Hmmm… just read a story on vaping,… whereby the author described you perfectly… a pinch faced wowser.
Yep..
Bang on the nail.
DW about the vids… plenty more where they come from,… meanwhile, assuage your vicious little mentality and in crowd echo chamber as best you can. Go ahead, feel free. No one gives a damn anyways. You’ll grow up one of these days. I’ll still be here.
BTW , its Aprils Fools,… you wear it well.
Rod Stewart – You Wear It Well (1972) [HQ+Lyrics] – YouTube
Love the self portrait.
Yeah man Ima hippy.
Like that put-down ‘pinch-faced wowser’ manages to be satisfyingly invective without crossing lines in the sand.
He is one of the media.
Yes WK;
Marty belongs back there on Mars!!!
So WK you need to play David Bowie’s song?Space oddity’ from 1972;
and that reply also went to the wrong spot. lol
Systemic issues lol
too much monday 🙂
Nah ,… i’m goin all soft on marty…
For the now…
I like to cross swords you see, CLEANGREEN me old mate…
Come read this WK;
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/04/01/the-hidden-trucking-industry-subsidy-citizens-environmental-advocacy-centre/
I think marty mars really has made the grade, for sure.
He’s floating in his waka around the world trying to stop us getting into
tin cans and getting lost. Seems to have a good mission.
I was reading about swords and Tai Chi on 2. Then at 2.2 marty mars you come in with something else. Why isn’t it in a new number? It’s hard enough to follow Wild Katipos numerous comments without additions to the thread.
I thought I’d started a new one sorry.
Personally I love swords and have trained with the katana for years. Tai chi is good too – didn’t mean to push into that cool stuff. Sorry wk.
Dang it,… now I gotta apologize. I’m sorry old chap. I did Iaido and Kendo. I hated Katanas,.. they felt like blade heavy meat cleavers that committed your body to overreaching swings with no ‘ live ‘ feel to the blade. The longsword by comparison was like a whip in its return to guard.
I was mentally geared more for Kenjutsu.
I had many interesting discussions with the Sensei’s down there in Hamilton.
I taught them what the ‘ tail’ guard was used for. But Kendo was the codified , sports version to preserve the killing arts of Kenjutsu. I was interested in straight combat to retrace my European heritage, and I drew on all sources, including Jujitsu in regards to Kampfringen,… all of them recognized many of the same techniques as I found in the European arts… they were roughly compatible.
My training was ju jitsu – not gracie – old school + judo based but lots of ground work and dirty stuff.
I prefer to train with bokken rather than katana really – if good enough for musashi and sticks easier to find when needed rather than a sword.
Whoa- now Miyamoto Musashi and the book of five rings,… that IS a study in the sword !!!
He was legendary… hair disheveled, comes out scruffy and half asleep, beats an experienced swordsman using a Katana with little more than a stick on that island !
And in the end ,.. after so many years and so many kills, tells society’s expectations of him to shove it… matures and seeks a more peaceful and humane life and sees the futility of endless warfare.
No wonder hes a sword ‘saint’ in Japan.
I had a Japanese mate who told me that duel highlighted Musashi’s favoured technique of pissing off his opponent so that he’d make mistakes.
Sasaki Kojiro was noted for using a longer than usual sword. So Musashi whittled an even longer one out of an old oar – this both satirized Kojiro and robbed him of the reach advantage he’d begun to depend on.
Cool. I’m about to reread Eiji Yoshikawa’s Musashi again. So much info in there plus a rollicking good read – English translation though.
Yeah I really enjoyed it – it makes a real difference when someone with great writing skills has an equally great story to tell.
Me brother and I occasionally duel with bokken if he’s in town. He’s much better than me, still doing the manlyman stuff and all, but every so often he’s the one who calls time out to suck his fingers after a good whack lol
Yep lol I sorta want to do more jo and taiaha – double ended pretty hard to stop in proficient hands. Thinking of making my own and teaching the boy to train with me. Good fun.
Sometime one day might be good to set up a taiaha retreat in Golden Bay for all the martial arts people here. Of course you would invite the police to join in and that would prevent them from inflating everything with bad intent.
It would be interesting if new and better attitudes to law and order with police could come about iff they built relationships with the public; for ages they have kept themselves separate and been afraid of being compromised if there were problems amongst people they knew. But I think a new model of fraternisation could be developed.
One of the things that struck me as a general spectator to all three is how bayonet drill is an evolution of quarterstaff technique, which has many similarities to taiaha technique (only so many ways of efficiently bopping someone on the nut, I guess 🙂 ).
I wonder if the British army absorbed any lessons from going head-to-head against taiaha. It’d be fascinating if some of those bayonet drills were influenced by the New Zealand Wars.
More firearms and entrenched positions that taught them a lesson 😉
No doubt. I once read an interesting article that posited European trench warfare was invented at Ruapekapeka.
ISTR Belich was big on that argument, but I’m not really sure it holds up. Firstly it was a fixed emplacement rather than a broad barrier. Secondly Wellington had done similar efforts in the Peninsula campaign thirty years before, and it’s what really stopped the French from taking Portugal, and it was done by the most famous British general, so well known in Europe. And it was an adaptation of previous military events anyway.
But then as an incrementalist I’m possibly more primed to see evolutionary progression than maybe identifying revolutionary change 🙂
L0L… The reason I like to mix it up is because while local politics is important and that of those overseas also,… is to provide colour and something a little thought provoking,… else it just becomes a very morose and off putting exercise for those who are not particularity inclined towards dry narrow perspectives.
There is a whole big world out there, and its too easily to become egocentric or introspective , or too partisan or too tribal. Its good to think outside just what the newsmedia spouts with its set narratives and agendas , … such as the world of nature, the world of mystery , history and the origins of political movements… otherwise you will end up dried, staid and dull, – and dead before your time… mere parrots of the very news media you claim to despise.
Curiously , somehow,.. these ‘natural and historical things’ finally become political … but only after people come out of their shells and start to consider them… this world is way bigger than just our perceptions, bigger than what this generations politicians think…far , far more than that.
Perhaps this is why it seems’ hard to follow’.
It is not always about what Jacinda Adern or Winston Peters or John Key are up to or what they think,… the world doesn’t revolve around them.
Thank goodness.
I actually like your videos you big doofus.
🙂
Bless you , you humdinger
Thanks for the Tai Chi Wild One. My 80 year old sister swears by it. Perhaps tomorrow…
Tai Chis is great. I have started a few times and dropped it, have book and want to practise the moves so they become involuntary. Good for suppleness, flexibility, blood circulation, quieting the mind (would be useful for some), and brings a short serenity which may last through the everyday hurly-burly.
It’s based on the moves used by fighters, but adapted for general public suitability. Has some poetic names, one stance is stroking the peacock’s tail. It’s a bit more mind enhancing and less demanding on the body than gym action and in a group situation it is pleasant to be doing something that is like a slow dance with the group, part of a social interaction with people in balance.
I would say go for it. The Japanese martial art I loved most was Aikido,… but the most functional and easy to train was Japanese jujustu,… for combat purposes only.
But either Aikido or Tai Chi,… would be gentle and great for more fitness, toning and gentle suppleness or meditative purposes… relaxation is the motivation , -without the bone crushing , rip shit and bust of Jujutsu. Jujutsu is a ‘ hard’ art… only designed for combat.
“the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, has pointed out that India has the world’s third largest Muslim population after Indonesia and Pakistan – upward of 180 million people”. ….. “In fact, by the end of 2016, only 23 men from India had left to fight for Isis in the Arab world,” …..
This is a rate of roughly 1 extreme extremist per 7 million eight hundred thousand Indian Muslim community members…. https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/05/israel-is-playing-a-big-role-in-indias-escalating-conflict-with-pakistan/
Was this written in our white supremacist manifesto before he committed his terrorist attack against Christchruchs Muslims …”explain why we ought to tolerate sharia law.” ???
Would NZ s mass murderer have agreed with the sentiment ” Rabid rottweilers of racism here – who see racism wherever they look – will relish an opportunity to explain why the Islamic race is better than the Christian race. ”
I’m quoting a poster here at the standard ( dennis Frank) , …. but he’s not alone,……. I have argued with another poster who believes / pretends that the majority of Muslims are hard line extremists …. and they are incompatible with our modern society ….
Two posters espousing some of The sentiments , the beliefs … and putrid justifications….. of our racist white supremacist before he went on the rampage … incorrect fascist opinion dressed up as facts ….the talking points of a terrorist mass murderer.
The Statistics at the beginning of this post …. show up the negative stereotype lies ……. pushed by the dennis franks / wayne mapps and other anti Muslim scaremongers ..such as the National party … and our media.
I think spreading this message …. along with the stories of other Muslim kiwis targeted and harmed in Our terror attack.
Is the best antidote to the fear-mongering speech and harmful stereotypes … that some angry NZers cling to and spread.
Spread this message
https://twitter.com/MesutOzil1088/status/1110170205748187136
Another good woman …… Rashida H. Tlaib …. speaking of …. Christchurch and a controversy involving two faced Chelsea Clinton … and Ilhan Omar .
3 out of 10 generous imo
“Oranga Tamariki chief executive Grainne Moss has rated her organisation seven to eight out of 10, despite 220 children being harmed in its care over six months in 2018…
… However Dame Tariana Turia, the former Minister for Whānau Ora, strongly disagrees, saying “the number of children being abused in care doesn’t warrant a seven” and rating them three out of 10.”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2019/03/oranga-tamariki-smacks-of-racism-dame-tariana-turia.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3fk3H1_hM
Also featured on Natrad right now with Kathryn Ryan.
Does everyone in Aotearoa get the same opportunity for good health, a good education, decent work and an adequate standard of living?
The evidence says no.
In fact, if you are Māori or Pasifika, you are:
👉🏾 More likely to be arrested by police
👉🏾 More likely to be sentence to prison by the court
👉🏾 More likely to live in cold, damp home
👉🏾 More likely to have teachers who don’t believe in you
👉🏾 More likely to be underpaid and undervalued
👉🏾 More likely to have their children removed and placed in state care
👉🏾 More likely to suffer preventable, and early deaths
👉🏾 Less likely to have your babies resuscitated in hospital
Put another way, if you are Pākehā then you are:
👉🏻 More likely to be given a warning by police
👉🏻 More likely to be let off by the court
👉🏻 More likely to live in a wam, dry home
👉🏻 More likely to have teachers that believe in you
👉🏻 More likely to have accrued wealth and be well paid
👉🏻 Less likely to have your children removed and placed in state care
👉🏻 More likely to live a long and healthy life
👉🏻 More likely to have your babies resuscitated in hospital
Is this a ‘fair go’? We don’t think so.
Note the John Key property speculator disease hitting the indigenous Hawaii people with high homelessness rates ,,, it’s engineered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n64ZVQXAbzg
” More likely to have teachers who don’t believe in you”
As an early childhood teacher/lecturer this one resonates with me. The state has no business whatever letting loose teachers on our vulnerable children of all stripes who do not have a clear understanding of equal opportunities and a reasonable working knowledge of our history, including colonialism, te tiriti and enough reo and tikanga to at least be able to acknowledge and respect same. And over the years I have seen and heard enough to make me sad and angry – there are no excuses for this situation!!
FYI uptake for Disability Allowance is lowest for Asians, and second lowest for Maori/PI. Possibly because doctors “know” that brown faces are trying to scam the govt.
Citation? The most recent study I am aware of re the CDA is this one…https://www.cpag.org.nz/assets/161102%20CPAG%20Otara%20CDA%20report%20CS6-WEB_01.pdf
Overwhelmingly, nearly 90%, the reason given for not receiving the CDA is ‘not knowing about it’.
This I can relate to regarding the Disability Allowance for adults. My partner, who has a high cost significant physical disability knew nothing about the Disability Allowance until some aberrant (in the nicest possible way) WINZ employee asked if a way to ease our struggling finances was to try and get his DA raised by a few $$$ per week. This aberrant (in the nicest possibly way) WINZ employee assumed he was on the DA…but interestingly was not surprised (and more than a little pissed off) that someone with such obvious high needs had not been offered this assistance.
We’re pakeha, so I doubt if it is a ‘brown face’ thing.
John Key Derangement Syndrome alive and well
Interesting name for Oranga Tamariki CEO, is it Maori or Irish? Is this person one of the well-paid chiefs helicoptered in from UK? So many have been, to minister to the ‘indians’, as in too many chiefs (highly paid) and not enough indians (which is a name in this case, for the workers who are hardly receiving wages enough to support themselves and families).
Just giving a government department/contracted agency a Maori name doesn’t mean anything but a brownwash, a cynical PC ploy that gummint is making the effort to relate to Maori needs and tikanga. And in a way it is insulting as it is not only Maori who need help and are struggling, though a larger percentage of Maori population numbers than pakeha and tauiwi population numbers are having difficulties. That percentage thing – it has to be understood what its base is and what context it refers to.
Moss was previously at Bupa….that multinational company with the oh-so-solid reputation as awesomely wonderful providers of (largely) State Funded elder care. http://www.ssc.govt.nz/media-release-ministry-vulnerable-children-oranga-tamariki-chief-executive-appointed
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/82559158/former-private-sector-agedcare-boss-grainne-moss-to-head-new-state-carer
https://www.rt.com/uk/325083-bupa-abuse-sidcup-rousell/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4614310/horror-institutional-abuse-Bupa-care-homes-undercover.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11922916/Bupa-care-home-assistant-jailed-for-abusing-vulnerable-residents.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-38833510
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/23/revealed-companies-running-inadequate-uk-care-homes-make-113m-profit
https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/104452/Poison-bedsores-and-agonising-death-so-much-for-Bupa-care
and here in Godzone….
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/03/auckland-rest-home-investigating-claims-of-disturbing-abuse-of-elderly-patient.html
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11944328
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/365008/rest-home-industry-understaffed-under-trained-and-often-appalling
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/101804334/woman-dies-of-septic-shock-due-to-lack-of-care-in-critical-time-of-life
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/04/95yo-rest-home-resident-left-in-chair-for-24-days-report.html
Not an immediate helicopter drop….she did her few years learning the Kiwi way of doing things before being ‘recruited’ by MSD. Being in charge of Bupa NZ is not something she should be proud of having on her CV. Was recruited to the cyfs role by Bennett…but probably came to the notice of the National government in relation to her company being largely government funded.
However….I doubt it won’t make any difference to outcomes for at risk children who leads the agency responsible for sorting this shit out until the real reasons for our shameful rates of child abuse are acknowledged.
Ooops…my comment is in moderation. Have I broken the rules?
[A technical issue, Rosemary. Comments with an excess of links go into the mod queue until one the team release them. TRP]
I was watching a very good interview with Democrat presidential hopeful Andrew Yang who is promoting a universal basic income and thought this will never happen in New Zealand because we have a mentality as a nation that anyone who gets money from the government without working for it is a bludger.
Careful with that idea. TOP are the only party who have seriously promoted a UBI, and taken one to an election as key policy, and all the tribals here hated them for it.
Really. We had a whole strand on UBI a while back.
Myself, Weka and others wrote about it.
The only kickback of note was from some, not all, of the usual right wing suspects.
There was some justified comment about the costs and whether it was the best way of reducing poverty and increasing fairness.
As well as the gap between the initial cost and the benefits coming later.
On the whole the discussions were constructive.
By the way, Red, you are Tribal, in your own way. Especially since you joined the biege brigade.
Only one party has attempted to test a UBI as core policy in an election.
And for all the fine words said about it, I think only me and maybe a couple of others, were willing to back them for it.
Discussing a UBI , was Green policy going into the last election.
Many are still not convinced it is the best way to go.
Which is fine. There are pros and cons.
I specifically asked Russel Norman in person about the Greens UBI; I didn’t catch his answer due to him backing out the door so fast.
Or possibly my hearing isn’t what it used to be 🙂
It’s what suit-wearing leftist politicians do: he was just conforming to the prescription. I checked the GP website: https://www.greens.org.nz/sites/default/files/economic_20140811_1.pdf
When I was in the Greens economic policy working group led by Jeanette Fitzsimons, we attended a conference on UBI featuring its leading academic advocate at the time: Keith Rankin. Think that was ’92. Our group adopted it but I don’t recall if the GP formally did likewise due to being embroiled in the Alliance subsequently.
However it appears to have survived in the form of principle #8 in the current GP economic policy: “Equity and Compassion: Basic material security and sufficient income for all, and a fair distribution of the economy’s benefits and burdens, will lead to better outcomes for all members of our society, including gender and pay equity.”
So much for principle, what about practice? See 4.9 – “The Green Party will: … Explore the introduction of a guaranteed minimum income for all people.” Establish a feasibility study, that means. It’s what leftists do when they want to appear to be supporting something without declaring intent to actually do that thing. To differentiate themselves from Labour on this point, they are explicitly not declaring their intent to use focus groups.
So yeah, ho hum. The usual methodology for manufacturing consent. Weasel words? Technically, yes, but unkind to dismiss the policy on that basis. The Greens are good people who mean well. Evasive policy can be framed as prudent and shrewd. Non-committal stances allow freedom of movement in response to changing times…
Or, maybe as is really the case, we want the space to research, discuss, options, and find out if a UBI, is going to work as intended.
It is called thinking about things before you do them. Including considering unintended consequences.
I support a UBI, but there are other options which may help people sooner. And can be gotten past other parties, and the bad faith, roadblock.
I reckon a full UBI, may well be introduced by a right wing party. When it finally penetrates their self interested brains, that people with no money, cannot buy anything.
Yep, that’s a very good point. Recent years has seen substantial support emerging from rightists. Some commentary I’ve seen goes into differences that have emerged in respect of implementation of the concept. That does indeed give the Greens a sensible basis for caution.
My suggestion would be to use a preliminary conference to discuss the pros & cons of the most well-formulated designs that are available at the time, then have parliament discuss the options. If competing schools of thought become evident, either another conference or perhaps an advisory group established to clarify problems and refine design of the system before reporting back to parliament?
Exactly. A UBI was only ever going to survive in a form that both the left and the right could tolerate.
No idea if I’ve ever voted based on a single policy.
I’d be interested to see what happens if Morgan gives them another couple of mill but keeps his mug out of it. He was too much of a jerk to actually be electable.
But if they were well-funded and issued reports in the style of a think tank to prepare the ground and had some passionate but openminded candidates, it might be more successful.
There was an article somewhere yesterday saying hes pulled all funding and cut ties.
What a dick. He can’t figure out that the biggest thing holding TOP down was him.
I voted for them and got a very grumpy response here . The left lost me with their wedging against rural nz.
The left will save everyone including farmers.
Federated farmers will still be complaining about the left, on the day we rescue them from their flooded or dust bowled farms and put them in state housing.
Fortunately, not all farmers are that stupid.
As we carry another load of hay, for draught relief.
Yang enterprises was the family that rigged the 2000 Florida election. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/florida_election_stolen.html
Are you asserting that Andrew Yang is connected to Yang Enterprises? Or just throwing out a random factoid hoping readers make that associative smear themselves?
I’ve had a pretty good search, and found zero connection. Wikipedia claims Andrew Yang’s parents were from Taiwan, while the owners of Yang Enterprises (Li-Woan and Tyng-Lin Wang) are described as Chinese-American.
Andre …. One would hope your conclusion is not as wrong as your argument….. because your rebuttal is based on ignorance.
Throwing out fact-turds like that …. you could work for the Legatum stink tank threw out there. ….
The Taiwan Govt declares itself ….. the official name of “the Republic of China (ROC) ”
“Since the ROC lost its United Nations seat as “China” in 1971 (replaced by the PRC), most sovereign states have switched their diplomatic recognition to the PRC, recognizing the PRC as the representative of all China,” …..
” As of 21 August 2018, the ROC maintains official diplomatic relations with 16 UN member states and the Holy See, ”
” with the election of the Kuomintang (KMT, “Chinese Nationalist Party”) back into executive power in 2008, the ROC government has reverted to the position that “mainland China is also part of the territory of the ROC.”
What does the ridiculous posturing the governments of Taiwan (RoC) and China (PRoC) perform to each other have to do with the question of whether Andrew Yang (US presidential candidate) has any connection to Yang Enterprises (allegedly dodgy US software company)?
cleangreen has apparently invited readers to make that connection by responding to a post about Andrew Yang with mutterings and a link about “the family that rigged the 2000 Florida election.”
I asked cleangreen to clarify that connection (or lack thereof). reason, you too are also welcome to clarify that connection.
Sorry Andre …. that you seem to thick to realize that the people of Taiwan are in the majority Chinese …. and call themselves Chinese.
So your claim “I’ve had a pretty good search, and found zero connection.” is undermined by your bullshit ‘ evidence’ …” Wikipedia claims Andrew Yang’s parents were from Taiwan, while the owners of Yang Enterprises (Li-Woan and Tyng-Lin Wang) are described as Chinese-American.”
I’m not interested in Yang enterprises …. unless there’s a Legatum link …. or money laundering in NZ links / dodgy NZ trusts / NZ shell company’s etc
your the expert … do tell 😉
Not good enough.
“Ngāi Tahu is asking why it wasn’t informed or involved when a giant leatherback turtle washed up in its rohe.
The body of a 2.5 metre turtle was found on a farm near Akaroa on Banks Peninsula last week and sent by Department of Conservation rangers to the national museum Te Papa Tongarewa in Wellington.”
Matiu Payne from Lincoln University’s Te Whare Pūtahi says Ngāi Tahu consider the honu a kaitiaki.
https://www.waateanews.com/waateanews/x_news/MjE0MjY/Hapū-grieves-for-kaitiaki-turtle
Every year a draft resolution is presented to the UN.General Assembly.
Broadly condemning the glorification of Nazism.
“Combating glorification of Nazism, Neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fuelling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance”.
Every year the US and Ukraine, sometimes Canada, sometimes some poor Pacific country hoping for favours, votes no. The vast majority (130countries ) votes yes,sadly NZ is not one of them .We join the EU in abstaining
..
One year I wrote to Murray McCully, and asked him to explain our stance
He replied that there was wording related to freedom of expression,and rights of peaceful assembly that were of concern .Pretty much word for word the US stance, which adds that as it is a Russian resolution, it is therefore invalid as it has been put forward for political reasons
Each year the resolution is amended and circulated , in the hope of consensus, and each year the vote stays pretty much the same
After the events in CHCh, is it time for NZ to vote in favour of this resolution?
https://www.apnews.com/85865bd166c243c7a58bba56e6fcb1ab
No, it isn’t. As when he oversaw NZ’s sponsorhip of a Security Council resolution against Israel, McCully is correct: freedom of expression is important and Russia is one of the countries looking for ways to diminish it at the UN. The fact that no-one likes Nazis shouldn’t influence our decision-making on freedom of expression.
Note that the resolution specifies the glorification of Nazism
As Nazism’s extreme nationalism advocated the extermination of an entire race/religion, I venture that Nazi speech doesn’t warrant protection
Happily, the vast majority of UN countries agree, just not the most powerful
Note that the resolution specifies the glorification of Nazism
And then leaves it up to local authoritarians to define “glorification,” which is exactly the problem with resolutions in conflict with freedom of expression.
As Nazism’s extreme nationalism advocated the extermination of an entire race/religion, I venture that Nazi speech doesn’t warrant protection
Advocating the extermination of an entire race/religion doesn’t warrant protection and is already not protected, so no change is needed there. That just leaves undefined “Nazi speech,” and the devil is, as usual, in the definitions.
Can’t help feeling NZ’s sponsorship of the SC resolution was a favour to the departing Obama, who relished the opportunity to sock it to Netenyahu.The only time the US abstained on this issue.
And NZ quickly backed down
https://thestandard.org.nz/new-zealand-folds-and-apologises-to-israel/
Try mentioning Jew, Israel or Zionism and see how free you are to express anything? No response? Wait for it.
I will bite.
Not fair to put the three together.
Plenty of ethnic Jews disagree with, the current direction taken by the Israeli Government.
But from the trio above, there are watchers ready to dispute any mention that relates to their particular sensitivity, ready to ambush commenters no matter how mild or factual related.
The forked tongue of deceiving politicians and the powerful. Using the word ‘political’ as a negative, so implying that it is somehow unacceptable to normal discourse and concern. That is saying that our governments, the organisation of our lives isn’t our concern?!! What is the next word that they will plaster with doggie do? All very Orwellian*.
John Key criticised a matter raised before one of his elections as ‘political’ and implied therefore he shouldn’t have to respond to the matter. Bloody amazing. And even more amazing that we allow these greasy, wily types to carry on with this subterfuge.
* Newspeak – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
Newspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state and the setting of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), by George Orwell. … The long-term political purpose of the new language is for every member of the … among the parts of speech; (ii) the inflectional regularity in the construction and usages of words.
https://inktank.fi/13-quotes-from-george-orwells-1984-that-resonate-more-than-ever/
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
“Big Brother is Watching You.”
I did some work for a company Oceania. Great bunch supplying sound rigs to the rock and roll industry.
I’m amazed I didn’t pick up the reference from Orwell. Was probably too busy loving the rock and roll job.
We had a certain way of speaking… 😀
Sorry I got carried away and didn’t put the source for my comment – you might wonder who said something was political? I am referring to the quote in Fransesca’s comment at 8.
He [Murray McCully] replied that there was wording related to freedom of expression,and rights of peaceful assembly that were of concern .Pretty much word for word the US stance, which adds that as it is a Russian resolution, it is therefore invalid as it has been put forward for political reasons
And WtB
I wrote about Nautilus at 14/15 and oil rigs, and you are reminded of Oceania and sound rigs – interesting contrast.
I like the quote from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books.
QUOTATION: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
https://www.bartleby.com/73/2019.html
And someone suggesting that RedLogix might better be called WhiteLogix.
That makes me think of the Red Queen who liked to believe six impossible things before breakfast.
“Alice laughed: “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.” “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Quotations/Dodgson.html
Also relevant to today’s reasoning and practice:
I see RNZ Morning Report has been agog today with the possibility of new laws around hate speech.
For my two bobs worth, I utterly oppose hate speech laws. Why?
1/ Unless they are so tightly specific (as in the German anti-Nazi laws) as to be virtually useless in any practical sense they just become a circus for endless knee-jerk culture war clickbait, SJWs will endlessly report Mike Hosking and ZB, RWNJs will endlessly report anyone calling them RWNJs. The MSM will breathlessly report any and all of the professionally outraged Twitterati and they’ll then gleefully report on any moral panic/witch hunts/shit fights that play out as well.
2/ The UK indicates the police become the arbiters of acceptable speech. People will get prosecuted for teaching their dog to do a Nazi salute on Youtube, or making insulting jokes on social media about the Maori language if enough Kaumatua get a trembling lower lip and a tear in the eye over it.
3/ Hate speech laws are a distraction. Words only have agency bveyond the mere hurtful if the speaker some sort of constituency. A crazy dude ranting on the corner about Jewish banking conspiracies is just a crazy dude on the corner, unless he has a constituency of like minded people – and then the issue isn’t what he is saying, but rather why so many people believe it.
NZ already bans “hate speech” based on ethnicity or national origin, via the Human Rights Act, section 61 (yet another piece of legislation that’s in conflict with the Bill of Rights Act – oh, for a written constitution…). Fortunately, NZ cops haven’t yet taken up the invitation to become arbiters of acceptable speech, but the invitation is there.
If the government’s looking to put our legislation even further in conflict with the BoRA’s guarantee of freedom of expression, it’s presumably intended to apply to religious beliefs rather than ethnicity. That must be fought tooth and nail by anyone who gives a shit about freedom of religion.
Exactly.
‘Sky fairies’ would be hate speech too 🙂
i think bearded sky fairy sounds better then a bloodlusing male deity that advocates for slavery and loves himself a good stoning. See?
Well expressed.
Freedom of speech without fear of punishment is important because it is how people resolve differences of opinion in a civilised society.
It may not always be pretty, we may not always like it … but all other alternatives are worse.
Freedom of speech – what is it? Unbounded freedom of speech becomes a tool of harassment. Someone with an obsession about people like you calling out at you, even confronting you silently wherever you go, that’s a way around being called on ‘speech’.
And a civilised society – what is it? One with clean streets and neat frontages.
A Truman society where people are really interested in one another – being freely exploited on television?
Oh so sweet and theoretical. I do hope we will all reach that fairyland of peace, love and harmony (harmoney too), soon – on TS for a start.
Oh so sweet and theoretical. I do hope we will all reach that fairyland of peace, love and harmony
You misunderstand me; freedom of expression isn’t about peace, love and harmony. When people have serious and deeply held differences of opinion the resulting dialog is going to be long, heated and ugly to watch.
It’s still better than the alternatives.
That is partly my point that you make RL in analysing the process of freedom of expression – it can be very hurtful and long. I don’t want to wait for ages to go through mediation, the Courts, requiring defensive measures if I am being harassed by someone. And when there are so many people with early dementia about, they can’t be reasoned with and shouldn’t be enabled to continue errant behaviour beyond a reasonable and occasional level. Toleration should not be one-sided.
I don’t agree that it is either/or – that the alternatives can’t be better. Balance that’s what we need, more fairness and less rights bandwagons filled with bottles of snake oil.
This is the way we bind people together – proud of you dunner people.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/thousands-mosque-open-day
Good.
That is how you transform the human heart; with love.
Also Matthew 5:44
i would venture a guess that love would not have changed anything for the man who killed people who had their backs turned him, who were on their knees for prayer.
But yeah, it might enlighten a few who ate up the ‘all muslims are evil’ trope fed to them since 9/11 and continuously then.
Last night I linked to this extraordinary and highly relevant story:
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/why-this-wouldbe-mosque-bomber-converted-to-islam/news-story/a076a64fe5a30f566c393f3d1f971f41
It’s not about yelling, or blaming … it’s about a man who loved his daughter so … that one look from her changed him.
Well. I know a virulently racist skinhead who fell for a Maori woman.
He now talks like Hone.
Works.
Yeah I’m pleased jesus was a person of colour. The quotes and sayings attributed to him and about him often have some wisdom.
How to upset a fundamentalist white Christian.
Remind him Jesus, was a dark skinned, Jew!
LOL.
Quietly smiled at good Methodist minister who did not want yoga classes being held in church hall – ‘It can’t be considered – it is an Eastern mystical tradition’ – or words very similar
I got told rice was evil as a child. Because they offer it to foreign idols!
WtB
Lol
He would have looked like a roman till he lifted his toga,
In Petronius’ Satiricon, it is stated that Jews and Nabateans (from today’s Jordan) have the same skin color as Romans; to pass for one of them all one needs is circumcision and ears piercing. But for a Roman to pass for a Gaul or an Aethiopian, it would require a white or black mask, respectively.
Nassim Taleb
Hmmm took a while for Italians to be considered white.
“I understood this to be true after finishing historian David R. Roediger’s Working Toward Whiteness, a book about how new immigrants became white. Between 1886 and 1925, 13 million new immigrants came from southern, eastern and central Europe. Up until that point, people considered white generally hailed from England, the Netherlands, Ireland, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Roediger, a professor at University of Illinois, argues that new immigrants, until they were fully brought into the white family, lived in a state of in-betweeness, meaning they were placed in a racial pecking order below whites but above people of color.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrants-werent-always-considered-white-and-acceptable/amp/
There were huge migrations and turnover of peoples following the collapse of the Roman empire, with quite a lot of the movement south and south-west from central and northern Europe. Italy in Roman times wouldn’t have had many White people in it who weren’t slaves.
The dietry discrimination from the holy roman empire promulgated the schism and reformation.
Like swift in the incessant battle of little endians and big endians,Martin Luther nailed his menu to the door,formulating the reformation and battle between the butter eaters and the olive oil eaters.
https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-events/butter-fueled-protestant-reformation.htm
Ha didn’t know that – thanks for putting it up
Good stuff – more progress – yay
“Iwi are pleased that Government has decided to work in partnership with us to develop a plan to implement the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples,” said National Iwi Chairs spokesperson Professor Margaret Mutu.
“In addition to building and strengthening relations between the Crown and Rangatira, a national plan of action will improve outcomes for our whānau and all New Zealanders. We have wanted this to happen since government gave its support for the Declaration in 2010 and we acknowledge the leadership provided by Minister Mahuta to make it a reality.”
https://www.waateanews.com/waateanews/x_news/MjE0MzA/National-Iwi-chairs-spokersperson,-Dr-Margaret-Mutu-on-Paakiwaha
Pita Sharples worked hard to get JK on board with this. JK approved with the proviso the declaration could not override local law (or to that effect).
I think the issue now is giving the document (UNDRIP) some weight?
Margaret is good people, a diplomat who brooks no nonsense. Be interesting how this pans out.
Labour was concerned it added complexity to treaty issues, probably went in the too hard basket without that much thought. But Labour has better leadership now.
Nanaia, Margaret, Kelvin, Jacinda’s support…
Promising.
Yep + 1
Wrote a poem about pita once and te papa
the floor was polished
and clacked
with footfall and they lay
quietly disemboweled,
and were viewed.
a card explained: revered once, then dis
repair, now look
their mauri is strong. so they
say breezelessly.
A whare tūpuna
will say what to that?
Pita Sharple’s taiaha watches
through glass.
They are alone at night.
That’s a haunting mindpiece mm.
I had a visceral reaction to seeing some things in there. It hurt.
I wrote another one about it which I may share one day.
Agreed. Good poem.
A local favorite:
James K Baxter – The Maori Jesus
I saw the Maori Jesus
Walking on Wellington Harbour.
He wore blue dungarees,
His beard and hair were long.
His breath smelled of mussels and paraoa.
When he smiled it looked like the dawn.
When he broke wind the little fishes trembled.
When he frowned the ground shook.
When he laughed everybody got drunk.
The Maori Jesus came on shore
And picked out his twelve disciples.
One cleaned toilets in the railway station;
His hands were scrubbed red to get the **** out of the pores.
One was a call-girl who turned it up for nothing.
One was a housewife who had forgotten the Pill
And stuck her TV set in the ******* can.
One was a little office clerk
Who’d tried to set fire to the Government Buldings.
Yes, and there were several others;
One was a sad old queen;
One was an alcoholic priest
Going slowly mad in a respectable parish.
The Maori Jesus said, ‘Man,
From now on the sun will shine.’
He did no miracles;
He played the guitar sitting on the ground.
The first day he was arrested
For having no lawful means of support.
The second day he was beaten up by the cops
For telling a dee his house was not in order.
The third day he was charged with being a Maori
And given a month in Mt Crawford.
The fourth day he was sent to Porirua
For telling a ***** the sun would stop rising.
The fifth day lasted seven years
While he worked in the Asylum laundry
Never out of the steam.
The sixth day he told the head doctor,
‘I am the Light in the Void;
I am who I am.’
The seventh day he was lobotomised;
The brain of God was cut in half.
On the eighth day the sun did not rise.
It did not rise the day after.
God was neither alive nor dead.
The darkness of the Void,
Mountainous, mile-deep, civilised darkness
Sat on the earth from then till now.
Reflects my dismay at the City and sea museum in Wellington.
Gutted the maritime displays, special to generations who worked on fishing boats and merchant ships out of Wellington, in favour of some boring “Windows” with objects, as if all those workers, didn’t exist.
Yes Marty; regarding your comment on 11.
‘Good stuff – more progress – yay’ about UN human rights,- uuuummm
We ‘disabled’ want to see the 2010 Declaration of NZ submission on ‘Human rights of disabled persons’ also come to fruition.
As Maori Party Co-Leader at that time was Tariana Turia n handling that UN declaration on Human rights, and we disabled also included input to her modelled submission so we all had some involvement in putting it together when Tariana Turia held her public Panel called ‘bang on the table.’
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/disabilities-report-un
We had high hopes in receiving support as we got an addition added to her NZ UN Declaration’ then; – but nothing ever happened to give us any support or recognition.
‘Don’t hold your breath’
I’m sorry nothing has happened. This needs to be sorted. I am not up to speed on this one so I’ll have to do some research but Kia kaha.
tree huggers i tell ya, tree huggers and their dreams 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=4xls7K_xFBQ
this is awesome and should inspire us to do very much the same rather then cut down any tree/shrub to make space for more concrete.
“The (tree) wall has created a whole new economy”
Damn hippies!
In the early days of the new Israel I think they laid plastic sheets on the sand and planted through it and created the green heart of today’s Israel. Pity they couldn’t help Palestine to do the same instead of shooting/bombing them.
Hey! What if a Political Party in NZ adopted the tree planting scheme.
I like to consider the counter history.
Like splitting Palestine in half to both lots of people they, the Western victors, promised it to, during WW2, and instituted a Marshall plan and compensation for the displaced.
As they did in Europe.
Instead of spending billions on arming one side.
But. A peaceful and united Middle East, was never part of the plan.
No Right Turn’s latest post is interesting.
Whatever one might think of Martyn Bradbury, he has a right to an open hearing where all the evidence is available to him and his legal team.
There is one possibility though and I emphasize it’s just a possibility:
The police’s action with regard to Martyn Bradbury was likely the result of a formal
instructioncomplaint laid by a high profile person. It is possible that is the reason for the request for a closed hearing. The police don’t want to reveal that person’s identity to Bradbury or indeed the public.http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2019/04/a-perversion-of-justice.html
Very strange Anne. Wonder if a Judge has the power to overturn the secrecy?
Must be awful to be “tried” without knowing what the evidence against you was. Repeating the Hager case?
@ ianmac
It was all about the book “Dirty Politics” and the hacking of Slater’s emails by Rawshark. My pick is:
Someone – or someone on behalf of someone 😉 – pointed the finger at Martyn Bradbury as an accessory after the fact? Which could be why they wanted to have a look at Bradbury’s bank statements – to see if there was any evidence by way of travel arrangements or payment made to ‘a person of interest’.
In short, the officers on the case were so blindsided by their own political bias they allowed themselves to run amok, dumping on anyone associated with the case who was regarded as coming from the wrong side of the political tracks. That included Nicky Hager of course.
There are good. rational and principled cops.
There are bad, irrational and unprincipled cops.
I hope in the end Bradbury also gets a payment… to which he is entitled given the hit to his reputation and probably his personal life.
“the officers on the case were so blindsided by their own political bias”
Yes, and when do we get an inquiry into that?
Seems like the government policy of transparency does not extend to the judiciary. A privileged caste. Believers still in the patriarchal doctrine that justice is theirs, to be dispensed from on high, and provision is for those carefully selected – not for all.
I agree with Idiot/Savant – that they are operating a bullshit scheme. Why would the bomber expect the system to deliver according to the principle of natural justice? Still naïve after all these years??
Secret courts are one of the things the “West” didn’t like about the USSR.
A think on NZ and oil exploration permits.
We smaller countries are being exploited by the large players, we should remember this. We opened our doors in 1984 to them and know as a country who a home invasion is like. But how do we turn away from our Brexit from the world of individual nations exerting some intelligent, forward-thinking authority for ourselves and not exploiting others similarly to that being practised on us?
NZ 2018 on our oil permits.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12030912
How gummint manages oil gas.
https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/public/environment/oil-and-gas/default.asp
Otago Daily Times covers aspects of oil and exploration.
https://www.odt.co.nz/tag/oil-exploration
https://www.toddenergy.co.nz/exploration/
While actively managing our current permits, Todd Energy is continually re-evaluating and assessing new opportunities to ensure secure energy supplies for New Zealanders into the future.
Are they one of the consortium talking up producing hydrogen in Taranaki? What other forms of energy are they envisaging and researching? I wonder if the increased R&D allocations by govt are proving useful for this?
And PS on how important it is for the citizens to have access to control of politicians’ taking dictatorship supreme control instead of acting as careful watchdogs and supervisors of the nation’s treasures, including its scientific data.
Note: Canada’s bad example for a start.
30/1/2017
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/canadian-scientists-open-about-how-their-government-silenced-science-180961942/
100% GWS well said.
I understand we cannot do anything about existing permits because of ISDS clauses in trade agreements.
Because the short sighted clots that signed them, knew their idealogy would not legislate for environmental or human interest against corporations. So they didn’t consider it important.
Great new ideas – no problems about worrying about obtaining the resources we want to sell, just mine the seabed! Brave New World! A bit of background for those who are not knowledgable but interested like me, in the various machinations of business and how they interlock.
This morning on Radionz:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/386015/png-seabed-mining-company-delisted-from-stock-exchange
(Look what it does to the seabed as part of its operations.)
1 April 2019 (Not fooling around)
PNG seabed mining company delisted from stock exchange
The company behind a troubled deep sea mining project in Papua New Guinea has suffered another blow in its delisting from a major stock exchange.
In recent months, Nautilus Minerals has taken out millions in loans, obtained a court protection order against its creditors and put its assets up for sale.
The company, which was to mine the sea floor between New Ireland and New Britain, said its common shares on the Toronto Stock Exchange would be delisted this Wednesday.
In a statement Nautilus said it unsuccessfully tried to appeal the decision and its common shares had been suspended from trading.
Earlier this year:
Jan 2019 NZ
https://www.nzresources.com/showarticle.aspx?id=12447
21/1/2019 — Other Minerals and Metals
Nautilus gets latest loan
The aspiring seabed miner Nautilus Minerals Inc (TSX: NUS; OTC: NUSMF) has overcome its immediate hurdle of its next tranche of capital to help complete the mining and shipping equipment for its venture in Papua New Guinea.
The company announced late last week that it had received a new loan from Deep Sea Mining Finance Ltd* for $US500,000 as part of its secured structured credit facility of up to $US34 million.
The funds are for the seafloor massive sulphides project in the Bismarck Sea known as Solwara-1 which contained high grade copper, gold and other minerals.
What is DSMF? and Who?
* Deep Sea Mining Finance Ltd.
https://www.banktrack.org/news/investor_alert_deep_sea_mining_project_in_lastditch_search_for_capital
In a last ditch bid to rescue its experimental deep sea mining project ”Solwara 1”, the two largest shareholders of Nautilus Minerals Inc, Russian mining company Metalloinvest and Omani conglomerate MB Holdings, have formed a new company whose sole job is to secure funding for the project by October 31st [1].
It is expected that the first call will be on existing financiers of Nautilus, Metalloinvest and MB Holdings. These include HSBC (United Kingdom), ING Group (Netherlands), BNP Paribas and Société Générale (France); ABN Amro (Netherlands), and Unicredit (Italy) [2].
The Deep Sea Mining Campaign (DSMC) and BankTrack are calling on the banks to publicly distance themselves from this financially and ecologically risky project.
Background to Nautilus Minerals, based in Toronto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus_Minerals
Background to Toronto, Province of Ontario, Canada (city where the Mayor Rob Ford, built like a bouncer, ran at and knocked over an older woman councillor; also took crack, had trouble at home involving call for police help. Apparently a rough and ready city with likely same business style, When he died, his brother Doug Ford took over his Council electorate, and Doug is now Premier of the State of Ontario – with a populist approach.)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwzCj5NT8Cc
Doug Ford –
31/1/2019 The federal carbon levy Doug Ford calls a ‘job-killing’ tax starts Monday
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/new-carbon-tax-starts-coming-in-for-4-provinces-that-fought-the-federal-plan
GWS; – yes my old second home of ‘Toronto’ is now a pretty polluted place to be now as the last time I left (1998).the red sunset of pollution was becoming worse than when I first went there from NZ in 1968.
The Toronto skyline is defined as a ‘red sunset’- when the air pollution settles on the horizon as it’s own ‘generated clouds of vehicle,and industrial pollution joins together with the winds bringing north from Detroit and Chicago across Lake Ontario to make a thick large blanket of pollution that in the evening is seen as a ‘red sunset’.
In 1968 it was a thin pink cloud.and then in 1998 was so red it looked like the sky was bleeding.
I don’t like where this is going.
http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2019/04/a-perversion-of-justice.html
Mosa
it looks like they are instituting a ‘secret police’ unit, and that is very bad for us all.
Where is our ‘warm caring, compassionate, transparent’ Government now????
Mosa. See Anne above at 13.
Thanks ianmac.
Chief censor on manifesto:
“It promotes, encourages and justifies acts of murder and terrorist violence against identified groups of people,”
“It identifies specific places for potential attack in New Zealand, and refers to the means by which other types of attack may be carried out. It contains justifications for acts of tremendous cruelty, such as the deliberate killing of children.”
Banning this is what a recent several days long fight here was for. The mealy mouthed fuckers who got offended by me swearing at them were fighting for the dissemination of this garbage.
“Free speech”
I hope you are ashamed. I will try to curb my language. Could you please try not to be so ******* clueless.
100% WTB.
My support for you here.
@ WTB
No I am not ashamed. There are two clear aspects to this; one is that if the manifesto directly promotes and incites physical violence, then existing law is more than adequate to justify banning it. Open and shut case.
The same principle has always applied to moderation here; say anything that incites violence, even indirectly, and you will almost certainly get a permanent ban.
At the same time there is also a wider public interest case that rests on the example of books like Mein Kampf, or Das Kapital that were never banned despite the millions who died as direct consequence of them. There are many, many similar massacres and horrors that we have documented in great detail, as a stark signposts to hell.
For very good reason the we have learned to be wary of book burning; it never leads anywhere good. The problem is always this; who does the banning?
Two different principles in conflict. My suggested resolution is for the ban on the manifesto to be time limited, maybe five or ten years, as a compromise that both sides of the argument could tolerate.
Oh just go away you fucking termite.
It isn’t a book. It’s the whining justification of a mass murderer terrorist.
With instructions for kids.
There is no justification. None.
The best poets in the world could not justify that act.
Maybe you fancy yourself as edgy.
Pointless abuse.
It’s the whining justification of a mass murderer terrorist.
That may well be the case, but why should I take your word for it?
Have you read it?
Earlier today I laughed but thought MM might have been a bit premature calling you WhiteLogix, but now I see that nickname is totally apt.
“It’s when people believe they are always 100% right on something that they become extremists, unable to be reasoned with, and implacably convinced of their superiority. Like our shooter.” – RedLogix 17/03
“Justice Minister Andrew Little says he’s fast-tracking a law review which could see hate crimes made a new legal offence. He said the current law on hate speech was not thorough and strong enough and needed to change.”
He stopped just short of saying “Dennis Frank is right”. I opined that the reason the law hasn’t been used is that it ain’t fit for purpose. I explicitly identified the lack of an attached definition of hate speech as the primary reason for no prosecution.
“Mr Little said the Christchurch shootings highlighted the need for a better mechanism to deal with incidents of hate speech and other hateful deeds.”
Could be Aotearoa’s civil rights establishment will tackle him. “The Human Rights Commission says it does not want a change to hate speech laws” was their stance a couple of years ago. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11831648
At the time, Maori historian Paul Moon “released an open letter signed by 27 New Zealanders including Don Brash and Tariana Turia, warning free speech is under threat.” I wonder if Paul has changed his mind?
It’s amazing how little imagination authoritarians have, that they can never seem to visualise how these new powers they so enthusiastically grant the state, could be so easily used against them.
How hard for instance would it be to get the NZ1 party manifesto banned on the grounds that it was ‘hate speech’?
So difficult that no leftist opponent of NZF has even suggested doing so, even though many have complained about their anti-immigration policy since the nineties. Their irrational inconsistency seems inexplicable…
It’s sweary time.
I was talking about folk trying to discuss the manifesto and banging on about free speech to justify it. you led this vile charge. It was not about NZ1st you change the subject in your dishonest way you are being a deliberately misleading shit as usual. You were all gung ho for discussing the crap here and I jumped on you for it because you’re a worthless prick of a man when it comes to peoples feelings.
I’ve really tried to lend you some rope because sometimes you have something but it’s just dig dig dig every fucking comment lefties are idiots Dennis Frank is great what a fucking joke of a man.
You are not worth the effort.
I accept that new laws on “hate speech” is opening up a can of worms because everyone has a slightly different idea what constitutes hate speech. However, if they are able to come up with something totally definitive in the sense that the law could not be misinterpreted and it applied only to the more vile examples, then I would support such a move.
I only wish “hate deeds” had been a criminal offence 20 plus years ago. I was a victim of such deeds (albeit linked to political ideology – not racism or religion) and it would have been nice to have been able to seek and obtain justice for what was done. As it was, the police were not interested. They certainly would be now but it’s too late.
It was the same approach I advocated around moderation here for years; hammer the worst and most egregious examples at the margins, and leave the rest to sort themselves out. It’s an idea a good Dutch mate of mine described to me decades ago.
Another way of putting it, always use the minimum force necessary to achieve the desired goal. Otherwise the cure is likely to be worse than the problem you are trying to solve.
Even the current law struggles to define ‘hate speech’. All other categories of crime are connected to something concrete or measurable. But hate is an entirely abstract and subjective concept. Beyond the obvious problem of where to draw the line there is the question of exactly how to legally define the impact.
For example, Brian Tamaki’s ridiculous rant about gays and earthquakes was probably greeted by many in the gay community with gales of laughter; but then some may have felt the offense quite deeply. Yet assuming all gay people think and feel the same is the very definition of prejudice, but any law would have to assume this was the case right from the outset.
The reality is that if you say anything serious at all, someone will be offended. This place proves that if nothing else.
When Bishop Tamaki claimed that gays caused earthquakes three years ago, a QC reckoned it was hate speech. “Ms Joychild says Mr Tamaki’s speech was a hate speech.” https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/latest-news/news/when-is-it-hate-speech
Ah, but you can’t expect a QC to put their money where their mouth is, eh? They need to save all those zillions of dollars for a rainy day.
“Frances Joychild QC does not think a successful case could be mounted against Brian Tamaki in relation to sexual harassment following his speech blaming gay people for the earthquakes.”
did she further state that she could try…for a price?
👦 Mercenary not a good look for QCs. They be above the fray. Crusading moral advocacy ain’t even a career path here, as far as I can tell, despite being so prominent & traditional in the US legal scene…
QCs arnt above being mercenary…they just charge more…and crusading moral advocacy is indeed a career path, just one that dosnt pay
There’s two sides to this argument? 😳
theres always at least two sides to an argument…especially if youre charging in 6 minute blocks
Well if it had only one side it wouldn’t be an argument would it 🙂
Quite. I’m struggling to see the argument and dismayed there even is one.
OK I get that. And I accept what you are saying in good faith.
There will be other people who hold to quite the opposite view, and then annoying termites like me who hold to both at the same fucking time 🙂
You must be sophisticated to see there are two sides to an argument. Interlechshills like yourself are too clever for peasants and marees.
Not really; it’s just my training and career that inclines me to think like this. Automation would be easy if nothing ever went wrong, getting the machine or process to do what you expect it to do is usually the easy part. 80% or more of the job is dealing with all the things that can and do go wrong.
Engineering risk management is all about estimating likelihoods and unintended consequences. I’ve spent months sitting through HAZOP meetings; grinding through plant designs in brain crushing detail; methodically deriving and estimating the hazards, then tediously working through the pros and cons of each mitigation.
On here I guess this has carried over into my annoying habit of looking to see where an argument or line of reasoning can go wrong, what it’s weak point’s are and what the counter argument might be. I can see how others can perceive that as egg-headed, cool and aloof.
A very old mate of mine once described me as ‘too neurotic to be a psychopath, but not smart enough to be a proper Aspie’ 🙂
Also I’m naturally inclined to make a defense case for lost causes. It doesn’t make me popular, but you would probably quite like me as your barrister.
What about zen? Aren’t practitioners to be found strolling about wooded glades in Asia, doing one-sided arguing? In anticipation of applause via the sound of one hand clapping…
The other day, me, myself, and I had a huge fight about something so stupid I can’t even remember. I won and was almightily pleased with myself who gave me a pat on the back. Afterwards, I had a few drinks with all three of us and it was such fun to be on speaking terms and together again; the silent treatment from myself had been killing me and I couldn’t do anything about it. Kindness goes a long way and let that be a lesson for all of us.
Great start. And more must be done to eliminate all of this and start getting sustainable. Plus too often ‘down the hole’ is the main way of getting rid of anything.
“Associate Environment Minister Eugenie Sage today announced $381,000 in Government funding to enable farmers and growers to better deal with waste.
The funding, from the Ministry for the Environment’s Waste Minimisation Fund, will mean farmers and growers can more easily recycle or safely dispose of a wider range of on-farm waste such as agrichemicals, scrap metal, soft plastics and used oil.”
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-funding-deal-agrichemical-and-farm-waste
Marty,
We should be re-using engine oil again not disposing of it by re- refining it again.
I lived in Canada and US for 15 yrs, and bought ‘re- refined oil’ that was given back into ‘safe oil deposit centres’ usually they were in most ‘motor parts’ stores.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_oil_recycling
Thus far, the Greens have done little for low income earners and in my view are unlikely to be widely seen as living up to Metiria Turei’s cause. Hence, the Greens being in power has been a failing from the left perspective.
And what about on the environmental front? Have the Greens done enough in power to appease the environmentalist and fend off a new challenge from TOP?
Thanks for your concern.
TOP just lost their cheque book and their biggest obstacle. Given that cash is king, I reckon they will struggle to hit 2% in 2020.
100% MF
Don’t like that TC brand fetta cheese. Too sour for my taste.
“TOP just lost their cheque book and their biggest obstacle.”
That hasn’t stopped them from vying to win-over the Green vote. And the withdrawal of their biggest obstacle will better their chances. Helped along by the Greens lacklustre performance in power.
Yes indeed.
TOP are completely trashing the Greens, hitting as much as ten percent (of the Green vote). /sarc
TOP was the first stab at TEAL.
I told a neolib ‘there is no economy without the ecology’ while Key was still in power. He gushed over it like wisdom had sprung up in the room.
‘Some of us have been working on something. Business and environment. Blue-green’ he smugly scoffed as he drank more wine, ‘Gareth Morgan’ he said.
Nobody gave Vernon the memo, or he simply wasn’t invited.
TEAL Team 1.
It would only take the loss of 1 or 2 percent to take the Greens totally out of the game.
but that 1 or 2 % is in fact 15 to 30 percent of current Green support…dosnt look quite so doable in those terms
Not sure about that. The Greens are known for shooting themselves in the foot and killing off their own support. Let alone the prospect of being challenged by another Green party.
And to think, one of the reasons Shaw was brought into the leadership was the notion he would increase their support.
On a side note, one wonders how much effort the Greens put into securing more for the sick and unemployed?
Their recent support level of around 7% is historically low (recent) so would indicate a relatively staunch base support level…to remove 15 -30 % of that would appear to me to be highly unlikely…any blue /green party will take their support largely from elsewhere…IMO mainly National
“Their recent support level of around 7% is historically low (recent) so would indicate a relatively staunch base support level”
Yet, with them in power and securing wins their support should be at a high. The fact that it isn’t should be a concern.
If TOP stated new policy that appealed to the left/centre, they would widen their appeal and become more of a threat. And with the Greens in such a precarious position they can’t afford to be to laid-back about it.
Helped along by the Greens lacklustre performance in power.
Yes, who could have predicted that a party with as much as 6% of the vote would fail to dominate the government’s agenda? Incompetence is the only possible answer, right?
Incompetence is the one thing the Greens aren’t lacking.
Yes, who would have expected the Greens to secure more on the environment from a Prime Minister that has made it her generation’s nuclear free moment.
Who could have expected them to get more than a ban on further oil exploration that’s been a free gift for opposition propaganda against the major coalition partner, a zero-carbon bill that’s going to be the same, a big increase in DoC funding, etc etc, all achieved against the strong opposing force of a conservative coalition partner that got a higher percentage of the vote than them? Who indeed? Only the most disingenuous of anti-Green propagandists, I expect.
Think of me what you wish but I’m not the problem for the Greens. Sure, they’ve had some wins, but will it be enough to maintain their support, especially when challenged?
The level of incompetence amongst those who put themselves forward for office, recognition, status, is pretty high all round, chemmy.
Unfortunately, it seems to be a prerequisite, Gabby.
Gun Shops.
I have no interest in fire arms themselves.
But just a question, why aren’t the outlets for guns situated in or next to police stations.
In fact, if you could only buy them through the police …
Black Monday. – 1st April 2019.
Nine road deaths today, and stated as the worst since 2005 the press said today.
https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=287707
Nine people have died in three separate car crashes this morning
1 April 2019
The latest, is a man whose car plunged into the water near Auckland Airport just after 1am.
He was taken to Middlemore Hospital in a critical condition but has since died.
>> More Accident and Emergency News
© 2019 Newstalk ZB, NZCity
Why . The cops are busy enough.
Just regulate what can be brought. And keep a register of all guns . I voluntarily registered mine when I renewed my license recently.
That’s a really good idea.
+1
now theres an idea
More for the freezepeach warriors to sink their dentures into: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/04/christchurch-terror-attack-the-41-terror-publications-you-didn-t-know-the-censor-banned.html
But think of the education of the intelligensia. How can they pontificate on matters they know nothing of if they can’t commiserate with the terrorists by walking mental miles in their shoes.
Think of the tragedy of books lost to mankind forever. Think of the potential loss of information in the age of the internet, this desert of dedicated dissemination of dross.
I taught some prisoners to write poetry once, as an emotional outlet. One guy fancied himself rather clever, a level of delusion similar to a certain praxis posting ponce here. He photocopied his poetry and accompanying sketches (skulls, breasts, snakes, knives) and intimidated people into buying copies for $10.
The first poem. Untitled.
‘She had the greatest tits I’ve ever seen…’
Now, call me a disrespectful asshole but I think A LOT of literature could be burnt and nobody would ever miss it. Including most poetry.
Kia ora The AM Show.
don’t you think all the bad news about The America Cup is actually bad for the competition.????????? Moving it to Tauranga ain’t going to make it more viable NO.The America Cup draws in the billionaire punters
frazer is using the christchurch desaster as a tool for his publicity no one knew who he was before this any publicity is good publicity.
”I’ The scammers love gullible people they play you like a jutebox be careful people you could lose more than money they can steal your reality.
The sandflys are in the same league they are spinning about my reality my neighbours watch them break into my house they will be getting blinded by the sandflys big shiny badges what a joke
Niki Wahine need to be payed Equally as men after all its the Wahine that look after the mokos when things go wrong I also back pay equality as that will give Wahine more power and BIGGER VOICES and influence on the Papatuanukue stage.
Respect needs to be given and it was cool that the Prime Minister showed that after the christchurch desaster.
Respect needs to be valued more on Papatuanukue respect for humanity respect from mother nature respect every one Ka kite ano
Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.
https://youtu.be/HIqQTrxc15E
Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.
https://youtu.be/ZbZSe6N_BXs