Open mike 02/03/2022

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  1. Adrian 1

    Luxon on TV1 Breakfast this morning earnestly confirming that he doesn’t know anything.

  2. Jester 2

    We can finally buy RAT tests. We should have been able to do this long ago.

    Price war beckons as The Warehouse starts selling rapid antigen tests | Stuff.co.nz

    • mpledger 2.1

      They were of no use long ago because of their inaccuracy. When the number of cases of covid in the community was tiny, a positive covid results was nearly 100% likely to be wrong. It was just sending well people home to isolate. There only use was in high risk areas such as at the border.

      They are of more use now that PCR testing is getting overwhelmed in Auckland and the rates in the community are much higher. I know of someone who got a negative RAT and a positive PCR.

      • AB 2.1.1

        Yup. RATs have some limited value once things have gone pear-shaped. They'll maybe stop some symptomless Covid-positive people from wandering around and unwittingly infecting other people. That might slow the velocity of an outbreak somewhat – maybe. But it's only mitigation – RATS have no place in the important work of trying to stop things going pear-shaped to begin with.

  3. gsays 3

    Thought I'd group source a query. There appears to be one or two Standardistas who have a bit of beauracratic health knowledge.

    I understand that hospitals are accredited. This accreditation is dependent on different things and one of them is staffing.

    Is this so?

    The staffing of different departments needs to be at a 'safe' level eg numbers, skill mix etc.

    Then if things get really dire, a commissioner can be appointed.

    Am I on the right track

    Cheers in advance, I am away from the net for most of the day.

  4. vto 4

    how is

    USA invading Iraq

    different from

    Russia invading Ukraine

    ?

    • Sanctuary 4.1

      No difference. Two wrongs don't make a right. The people of the Ukraine have an absolute right to self-determination and their cultural identity, AKA freedom.

      This is what freedom actually means rather than being annoyed at having to wear a mask in a pandemic, and tens of thousands of people just like you and me are preparing to kill and be killed for it as we speak.

      • Blazer 4.1.1

        I notice one big difference….the U.S was not subjected to worldwide sanctions and opprobrium.sad

      • vto 4.1.2

        "The people of the Ukraine have an absolute right to self-determination"

        sounds fine, but has never ever ever been put into practice.. that sentence is total nonsense

        even in our own common law there are countless duties one owes to one's neighbours… nobody has the right to do whatever they wish, particularly when that involves putting said neighbour at risk

        ffs this is so basic it shouldn't even need to be said

    • Ad 4.2

      Similarities and differences between the invasions of Iraq and Ukraine are explored here by General Petraeus in a useful interview.

      David Petraeus on What Iraq Tells Us About Ukraine – The Atlantic

  5. hamish 5

    My post yesterday (https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01-03-2022) stirred up a hornets nest… and most of it seems to have stemmed from missing the point I was trying to make.

    The main point of this is about TRUST

    After all, I am told to trust the experts

    But first to address her statement “The vaccine has never been sold as being able to prevent people catching Covid. “

    Google search for “vaccine will preventing covid”

    Google comment displayed above any results

    [quote without link deleted]

    Anne (post 7.4) jumped down my throat, and it looks like the paragraph she was upset about was

    [quote without link deleted]

    The Scottish data tables showed the rates per 100,000.
    (https://www.publichealthscotland.scot/media/11763/22-02-16-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf)

    I will use some made up numbers for ease of clarity and simplicity, to clarify the misunderstanding

    Covid data for Mars for the past week

    Unvaccinated

    Population 1,000,000

    Cases 10,000

    Rate per 100k 1,000

    Two doses

    Population 1,500,000

    Cases 38,000

    Rate per 100k 2,533

    In this example the vaccinated are catching covid at 2.5 time the rate as the unvaccinated, ( or more than twice as likely to catch covid.. )

    The Scottish data ( this is an overview, exact numbers unimportant ) from October consistently showed the double vaxxed and boosted were far better off than the unvaccinated in all categories, but as the Omicron wave hit, and vaccine effectiveness fell, there was a change in the relative rates, and by early January, the bias showed the other way, with higher rates for the double vaxed over unvaxed for cases, hospital admission and death, but the boosted still had better rates.

    They were concerned that people would mis-interpret that data as showing the vaccine was worse than ineffective.

    They suggested part of the problem was ‘it has its limitations when people leave Scotland and do not inform ‘

    So lets run Mars again, but with a corrected population to match the 'error' because some people left without letting the govt know.

    Unvaccinated

    Population 400,000

    Cases 10,000

    Rate per 100k 2,5000

    Two doses

    Population 1,500,000

    Cases 38,000

    Rate per 100k 2,533

    So to make the vaccine look like it is not negative, 600,000 unvaccinated would have to leave without telling the govt.

    The first set of numbers for Mars are actually pretty close to Scottish numbers from dec 25 to 31

    It is interesting that I saw no mention of what I would be the most significant confounder that makes the vaccine look bad. Unvaccinated not bothering to get tested !

    Failure to test is very defiantly happening here ( I know, because unvaxed friends said they would not bother as there was no benefit to getting tested. )

    The Scottish data is a mess…. and If they publish such a mess and people get the wrong idea, whose fault is it? And when it changes from looking good to looking bad and they stop publishing it, they are going to look like they are trying to hide something.

    Beautiful practical example of how to get people to distrust you.

    They ( and people here ) want me to just trust them because they are the experts.

    First cautionary tale, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study by the US public health service. They lied to a group of people with syphilis that they would treat them for free as if they joined the study.

    But the 'experts' instead gave them placebos and watched 128 die.

    I saw no reference in the wiki page to any experts going to jail…..

    Then there is Pfizer, which has paid billions in fines for violating laws, but none of the people ever go to jail, they get to keep their bonuses.

    I could have more trust if the people involved were rotting in jail…

    Medsafe (NZ ) did some work to try and quantify how many people are being killed by the vaccine.

    A rather important number….Look down near the bottom for this section where they looked all cause death data,

    Over large numbers this is a useful tool, and in the past has found problems that would not be observed in other ways.

    However they observed half the expected number of deaths.

    This is a screaming alarm that they have some serious issues with either their data, assumptions or processing.

    This sort of discrepancy should have sent them back to the drawing board to see what was going on, and they have had plenty of time, sitting at home on full pay while remote working….

    How much confidence can you have in their data analysis….

    In God we trust, everyone else, show me the data…

    [quotes without links deleted. Links need to be direct. Please read this .https://thestandard.org.nz/some-notes-on-moderation/. You’re still in premod – weka]

    • weka 5.1

      mod note.

      • Hamish 5.1.1

        Apologies,

        I thought that posting the exact search then quoting the google text would be sufficient in context with the way other posters do.

        And i thought that posting the link to the open mike page and listing the post number would be enough.

        I cant see how to edit, so will repost and embed the links.

        cant see how to edit the existing so will repost w

        • weka 5.1.1.1

          editing comments only lasts ten minutes.

          You have to link to the thing you are quoting directly. eg if it's to a comment in TS, then click on the date/time stamp of that comment, copy and paste the URL to your comment below the quote.

          You said,

          Google search for “vaccine will preventing covid”

          Google comment displayed above any results

          Think about how this works for other, especially moderators. One, google delivers results based on the individual searcher's history. So we're all going to get different results.

          Two, you're asking us to do work when the onus is on you to make your argument and support it.

          You could have done the google search yourself and then linked to that search. But it's still pretty vague, because it then assumes we are going to look at the search and parse what you meant.

          Instead, make your point in your own words, briefly quote to support that, and provide a direct link to that quote.

          • weka 5.1.1.1.1

            a few further pointers.

            Put the link in the clear, not embedded in text. That way it's very easy to see what the link it is to. This is especially important for people reading on a phone.

            eg

            “A deliberate misinterpretation! Of course there are going to be more vaxxed people catching Covid than unvaxxed people you twat. Take New Zealand for example. 95% of the population are double vaxxed and only 5% unvaxxed. Get the picture?

            .https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01-03-2022/#comment-1869695

            Rather than,

            “A deliberate misinterpretation! Of course there are going to be more vaxxed people catching Covid than unvaxxed people you twat. Take New Zealand for example. 95% of the population are double vaxxed and only 5% unvaxxed. Get the picture?

            People make less mistakes with linking this way too.

            Seeing as you know how to use tags, can you please use the quote tags instead of "". Again, this will make it much easier to read and understand what you are trying to say. This is in addition to what Incog has just said, the more you can make your comments comprehensible, the better the debate will be.

          • hamish 5.1.1.1.2

            I was trying to follow the level of linking to substantiate claims that was being praticed by other commenters with respect to general claim etc

            I guess i misjudged

            No problem, I will work at being very pedantic about the linking.

        • Incognito 5.1.1.2

          I’d also ask kindly that you’re more succinct. Your comments tend to be overly long with an awful lot of stuff to unpack and poorly structured, which makes it hard to parse your actual comment. To me, if feels like somebody is trying to gaslight me. Sadly, you’re not the only one doing this here …

      • hamish 5.1.2

        My post yesterday () stirred up a hornets nest… and most of it seems to have stemmed from missing the point I was trying to make.

        The main point of this is about TRUST

        After all, I am told to trust the experts

        But first to address her statement “The vaccine has never been sold as being able to prevent people catching Covid. “

        Google search for “vaccine will preventing covid”

        Google comment displayed above any results “All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19. Staying up to date with COVID-19 vaccination gives most people a high level of protection against COVID-19. You should get a COVID-19 vaccine, even if you already had COVID-19.

        Anne (post 7.4) jumped down my throat, and it looks like the paragraph she was upset about was

        “So much data from government sources is inconsistent, or poorly organized or presented.

        Just look at the Scotland data (which they have stopped publishing) which seemed to show that double vaxxed were more than twice as likely to catch covid as the unvaxed and also more likely to be hospitalized than the unvaxed “

        “A deliberate misinterpretation! Of course there are going to be more vaxxed people catching Covid than unvaxxed people you twat. Take New Zealand for example. 95% of the population are double vaxxed and only 5% unvaxxed. Get the picture?

        The vaccine has never been sold as being able to prevent people catching Covid.

        But you are going to get a mild version of the disease with no long term consequences.

        A factor you choose to ignore.

        From what I understand world-wide… the most serious cases resulting in death are almost always among the unvaxxed so… if you choose to take that risk then be it on yourself if you end up in hospital gravely ill

        . I'm not sure you are worthy of this response but it just might ring a bell.”

        My reply

        The Scottish data tables showed the rates per 100,000. (https://www.publichealthscotland.scot/media/11763/22-02-16-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf)

        I will use some made up numbers for ease of clarity and simplicity, to clarify the misunderstanding, using the same base format as the Scottish data

        Covid data for Mars for the past week. Total population 2,500,000

        Unvaccinated

        Population 1,000,000

        Cases 10,000

        Rate per 100k 1,000

        Two doses

        Population 1,500,000

        Cases 38,000

        Rate per 100k 2,533

        In this example the vaccinated are catching covid at 2.5 time the rate as the unvaccinated, ( or more than twice as likely to catch covid.. )

        The Scottish data ( this is an overview, exact numbers unimportant ) from October and before consistently showed the double vaxxed and boosted were far better off than the unvaccinated in all categories.

        But as the Omicron wave hit, and vaccine effectiveness fell, there was a change in the relative rates, and by early January, the bias showed the other way, with higher rates for the double vaxed over unvaxed for cases, hospital admission and death, but the boosted still had better rates.

        They were concerned that people would mis-interpret that data as showing the vaccine was worse than ineffective.

        They suggested part of the problem was ‘it has its limitations when people leave Scotland and do not inform ‘

        So lets run Mars again, but with a corrected population to match the 'error' because some people left without letting the govt know.

        Unvaccinated

        Population 400,000

        Cases 10,000

        Rate per 100k 2,5000

        Two doses

        Population 1,500,000

        Cases 38,000

        Rate per 100k 2,533

        So to make the vaccine look like it is not negative, 600,000 unvaccinated would have to leave without telling the govt.

        The first set of numbers for Mars are actually pretty close to Scottish numbers from dec 25 to 31

        It is interesting that I saw no mention of what I think would be the most significant confounder that makes the vaccine look bad. Unvaccinated not bothering to get tested !

        Failure to test is very defiantly happening here ( I know, because unvaxed friends said they would not bother as there was no benefit to getting tested. )

        The Scottish data is a mess…. and If they publish such a mess and people get the wrong idea, whose fault is it? And when it changes from looking good to looking bad and they stop publishing it, they are going to look like they are trying to hide something.

        Beautiful practical example of how to get people to distrust you.

        They ( and people here ) want me to just trust them because they are the experts.

        First a cautionary tale, the Tuskegee Syphilis Study by the US public health service. They lied to a group of people with syphilis that they would treat them for free as if they joined the study.

        But the 'experts' instead gave them placebos and watched 128 die.

        I saw no reference in the wiki page to any experts going to jail…..

        Then there is Pfizer, which has paid billions in fines for violating laws, but none of the people ever go to jail, they get to keep their bonuses.

        I could have more trust if the people involved were rotting in jail…

        Medsafe (NZ ) did some work to try and quantify how many people are being killed by the vaccine.

        A rather important number….Look down near the bottom for this section where they looked all cause death data.

        Over large numbers this is a useful tool, and in the past has found problems that would not be observed in other ways.

        However they observed half the expected number of deaths.

        This is a screaming alarm that they have some serious issues with either their data, assumptions or processing.

        This sort of discrepancy should have sent them back to the drawing board to see what was going on, and they have had plenty of time, sitting at home on full pay while remote working….

        How much confidence can you have in their data analysis….

        In God I trust, everyone else, show me the data…

        • Barfly 5.1.2.1

          Hamish I presume you read the report?

          ". Data in this table should not be used as a measure of vaccine effectiveness due to unaccounted for biases and risk factors in different populations. For more information, please see the….."

          I counted FIVE of those warnings.

          • Hamish 5.1.2.1.1

            I did read that, and their musings as to why the data APPEARS to show the vax was innefective.

            And I thought I was very clear that they bear reaponsability for presenting the data the way they did.

            They set themselves up….

            • Barfly 5.1.2.1.1.1

              The devil is in the detail – comparing those vaccinated first because of their far higher risk due to their co-morbidities with those yet to be vaccinated due to their complete lack of co-morbidities is an exercise in foolishness IMO.

              • McFlock

                yup.

                And on the trust side of things, when the vaccines first came out the covid strain of the day (not a bowel movement) was delta, against which several vaccines do massively reduce the infection rate.

                Not sure it's a "trust" issue that covid mutates into new strains.

              • hamish

                They do an age standardization on the base numbers to get the displayed rate.

                for example if I look at the hospitalization table, end Jan start Feb

                Unvaxed base data in the table gives a raw rate of 11.8 but the age standardized rate almost tripples of 32.15

                boosted raw rate 8.7 drops to adjusted rate of 7.47

                So that is a pretty big bias to account for the unvaxed being probably younger and healthier and the boosted older.

                Blending all the age groups into one is a hell of a messy job.

                Israel data used to break it down into 10 yr band, and you could see the differences across the age bands

          • hamish 5.1.2.1.2

            Now I am at my laptop a wee bit more

            you clipped the word 'Warning' from the front, smiley

            In the PDF the whole warning is in red, pretty hard to miss…

            But my memory was that it did not used to be there..

            So looked back at the Jan 12 report

            There is the usual fine print below the table, but then in normal size text is

            "Age-standardised mortality rates for COVID-19 deaths shown in Table 3 are significantly lower for people who have received a booster or third dose of a COVID-19 vaccine compared to individuals that are unvaccinated or have received one or two dose of a COVID-19 vaccine."

            As it was just below table 13, and table 3 is about contact tracing, and table 13 is about deaths, I think it is fair to assume they just missed a "1"

            When the numbers look favorable, all is good, and you promote them, but when they turn against you, ….oops….you look like an idiot

        • Tricledrown 5.1.2.2

          Hamish this is only an opinion.just looked up Scottish public health service website.

          They are saying people are misreporting data cherry picking different data from different days.

          But they make a statement outline the reality.

          Mainly around Deaths 83.7% unvaccinated.

          7.6% I dose within 7days

          7.9% 2 doses within 7days.

          Yet it takes 2 weeks to gain full immunity so in fact if 14days taken into account maybe even lower numbers.

  6. Sanctuary 6

    This 60-70km long "column" of Russian vehicles north west of Kyiv appears to be more of a road bound parking lot than an actual advance, given that its been there for two-three days and hasn't even managed to cover the 100km from the Russian border to Kiev.

    However, this column represents the sort of target artillerists and attack pilots dream about. The fact that the Ukrainian have not be able to dent let alone massacre this Russian traffic jam indicates they've lost the power to conduct even limited offensive action/manoeuvre warfare and the defenders are now in a totally passive mode, awaiting the Russians in Kyiv and Kharkiv (the scene of four major battles in WW2 that left the city in ruins, the fifth battle of Kharkiv in eight decades is now underway) in what I think will be the most violent and prolonged urban street battle since Berlin in 1945 – bigger than Tet and the battle of Huế (a battle that lasted two months).

    The final act of this war is going to be a savage and bloody street battle where the citizens of Kyiv are going to be subject to the indiscriminate barbarism of Russian military brutality we’ve seen previously inflicted on the citizens of Aleppo and the Chetchens.

  7. Adrian 7

    All that may be true Sanctuary but there may be other reasons like a lack of fuel at the front of the queue and the fact that the ground is not frozen as the Russians may have expected and the farmland is too boggy, certainly for fuel trucks, so the roads are the only option. Also the Ukrainians have demolished most of the bridges on the approach to Kviv. Also to keep in mind the early troops that were repulsed were the elite Special Forces units, if they have had their arse kicked there may well be reluctance amongst the leadership to take big risks.

    • Dennis Frank 7.1

      An excellent opportunity for the Ukrainian oligarchs: send in a bunch of mobile fast-food outlets to cruise up & down the line providing better options for soldiers fed up with military hard-tack, employ locals to staff the operation, win/win all round…

  8. Ad 8

    If anyone wants to see an outstanding piece of rhetoric, and get a standing ovation from the most cynical of audiences, take 8 minutes out of your day to check out Zelinsky addressing the EU Parliament yesterday. It will put a wistful note of light in an otherwise dark day.

    Zelensky receives standing ovation after speech to European Parliament – YouTube

    Not even sure Dubcek could match it at the height of the 1968 PRague Spring.

    • Macro 8.1

      Zelenski on phone to Putin:

      "Hi Vladimir you want to hear a joke."

      Vladimir : "OK"

      Zelenski : Kyiv

      Vladimir (puzzled) : I don't get it.

      Zelenski : that's right b**** you don't.

  9. Treetop 9

    How I see the invasion of Ukraine ending.

    Putin will take Kyiv due to Russia having 100 million more population, so a superior army. Other countries are reluctant to send troops as this just prolongs a war so Zelensky will be forced out.

    Once Putin has Ukrainia will this be enough for him?

    • Tricledrown 9.1

      How ever if he gets bogged down like Afghanistan and a Gurilla war by the Ukrainian's.

      Pootin's reign as Dictator of Russia could be over.

      • Treetop 9.1.1

        What do you mean by bogged down like Afganistan?

        I need to look up the history of the Russian Afganistan war 1979 – 1989 to see how it played out.

  10. Anker 10

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bxpM20oXdM

    interesting clip about Lia Thomas, who was born William Thomas and ranked 462 amongst male swimmers in the male category. Now as Lia Thomas swimming in the female category is coming first and breaking all sorts of records in the female category. But hey well trans women are real women.

    tbh I didn’t watch the interview, the opening statement, was 462, now 1st was enough for me."……….

    • Molly 10.1

      For the readers, transcript from a mother of one of the female swimmers here (posted audio yesterday) https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-01-03-2022/#comment-1869801 can be found here:

      https://otter.ai/u/N7gCN1Xqfp6oVI5EeHFcFN6B3mQ

      . No one could believe the insanity. I talked with families far and wide who were curious about what was happening in the Ivy League. My call the lawyer that I knew at the ACLU to ask how the law women's rights in Title Nine might be handled in a case like this. I was trying to be respectful in my language, using trans women and biological women to differentiate and trying to use requested pronouns. I made clear that I didn't want to offend but pleaded that it seemed there was an obvious conflict here for women who already have so much less opportunity in sports, to now have to give spaces away to individuals who identify as women. I was met with the single most stunning response I've ever received on any issue. I was told that the words biological and genetic have no business being in a discussion around sex and gender. I was told trans women are women. They are female. They're girls, no language that minimizes that point should be tolerated. I was told that was an offensive question. My language was out of date. I was told that sex and gender are equally important and that the ACLU is actively removing sex from legal documentations and legal language. I tried to gently prod at the preposterous arguments I was hearing and I was met with an absolute brick wall when she concluded with let me tell you with certainty, the ACLU will never represent cis women against women.

      But not to worry, the schools were ready and prepared to address any confusion their athletes might have. mandatory meetings were called with scripts read off by coaches from the athletic department or in some cases handed out the girls already caught off guard and intimidated but upset. We're now silenced. They were manipulated, coerced and emotionally blackmailed. They were told their leagues and their schools had spoken and made their positions clear. They his athletes had made the decisions to be a part of these schools and this league and they needed to support it. They were told if they had opinions, or were asked to speak, they had to clear it through their coaches and their athletic department leaders. This was also of course for their own protection has no one wants their team slung through the mud. Finally, they were told their first priority needed to be the safety and protection of their of their trans classmates who are being thrust into the media. Any harm or damage that befell their classmates due to expressing opinions that might not support them would be their responsibility. Work done Message received. Now there was little to no chance they would speak out. I know girls from Harvard, Penn, Dale and Dartmouth, that all received various versions of this same message. After these meetings, I spoke to my daughter the influence was clear.

      But it came up again before IV Championships where the girls usually share a space for all the teams. I asked my daughter what she would do with Leah was changing in there. And she said resignedly. I'm not sure I'd have a choice. I still can't believe I had to tell my adult age daughter. You always have a choice about whether you undress in front of a man. What messages have these girls been receiving this year? How many of the other girls were feeling this my heart was ripped apart. Damage far greater than the sports arena was now apparent to me.

      Those of you so certain of the non-evidential inclusion of transwomen in women's sports, should be able to withstand listening/reading this and coming up with justification for this situation.

      I await your comments below, but anticipate your continued silence.

      • Hamish 10.1.1

        I saw a response somewhere that the girls may have to make a hard choice, but if enough do it now they could save girls sports.

        If all the girls decided that at the start whistle, they all just sat down instead of racing, and face being kicked of the teams, they would send a message.

        Why bother trying when you have no chance.

        Embarrass enough people with trans only races like that and you might get girls sports to survive.

        For the trans, have trans sports…

        • Molly 10.1.1.1

          "For the trans, have trans sports…"

          Or … for the reasons of safety and fairness, compete in the appropriate biological sex, weight and age categories – as everyone else does.

    • Jimmy 10.2

      That is very amusing, but not for the other female swimmers. Jonah Lomu should have converted and played female rugby. Imagine that. He was already hard to stop,

      • Anker 10.2.1

        Very very unfunny for the female swimmers, especially when Lia goes into their change room.

        and this mother trying to stand up for her daughter and being silenced. It’s an outrage.

        There has been a lot of talk about crazy views of the protesters at parliament, but tbh, I don’t see a lot of difference between some of their unscientific views and the idea that Lia is really a woman cause she feels like one and so therefore can compete with the women

      • Molly 10.2.2

        The testimony of the mother is far from amusing, as is the situation and the impact.

        What is it that you find funny?

        • Jimmy 10.2.2.1

          Í can simply not get my head around how a person who is/was male, can compete in the same league as women. "Amusing" was the wrong word, I actually think it is crazy and unfair. Like I said above what if Jonah Lomu had played against women? What if Novak Djokovick played in the womens comp? We know what the result would be. IMO Laurel Hubbard should not have been in the womens weightlifting. Perhaps there needs to be a mens, womens and a third category.

          • Molly 10.2.2.1.1

            Perhaps there needs to be a mens, womens and a third category.

            There is no need for the expense of a third category, when categories based on fairness and safety already exist. No one is prevented from participation or competition.

            It is crazy and unfair.

    • crashcart 11.1

      This along with the disabled man who is to be deported to India after 22 years living in NZ reflect really poorly on this government and the lack of value they place upon disabled people. Far to often we have heard similar stories.

      • Cricklewood 11.1.1

        Pretty much out and out discrimination if you ask me… has the disability commissioner had anything to say?

        Somewhat galling that this Govt is very vocal about 501s when they’re kicking people out during to disability.

        • mpledger 11.1.1.1

          I am favor of having a high bar for giving people the gift of NZ citizenship but in this case the child is a NZ citizen so her disability status should have no impact on the decision about the status of the rest of the family.

          • Barfly 11.1.1.1.1

            I am aware that the rules around citizenship by birth in the country were changed quite a while back I don't remember the details but I imagine the poor young girl is not a citizen.

            • Craig H 11.1.1.1.1.1

              Agree – people born in NZ on or after 1 January 2006 are only citizens if either or both parents are NZ citizens or have residence class visas.

              • Tricledrown

                Thanks to Winston Peters

                • Craig H

                  Possibly, although this particular provision was added to the relevant Bill in 2004 and passed in 2005 before NZ First were in government with Labour.

        • Craig H 11.1.1.2

          Maybe we'll see some courage somewhere in government to change the settings, not just make exceptions every now and then. The settings go back to at least 2005, must be time for another review.

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  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    9 hours ago
  • Sharp-elbowed and loving it
    It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who feels they work their guts out that in fact no one is working as hard as me.It doesn't seem to take a lot to persuade someone who knows somebody taking the welfare system for a ride that they’re all ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    9 hours ago
  • Then why did she do it?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    9 hours ago
  • Is Applying “Tough Love” To A “Fragile” Nation The Right Answer?
    The Question Christopher Luxon Needs To Ask –  And Answer: How was it possible for a nation of barely three million citizens to create and maintain an infrastructure that functioned, schools and universities that turned out well-educated and enterprising citizens, a health system that kept its people healthy, and a workforce ...
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  • The limits to realism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    10 hours ago
  • UNSOCIAL MEDIA – Following the Trolls
    From TODAY FM archives — Wilhelmina Shrimpton and Simon Morrow take a deep dive into trolling and cyberbullying. From the high profile to the general public, Kiwis across all walks of life are being targeted, and some are paying the ultimate price. So what drives us to troll, who is ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    10 hours ago
  • Govt prescribes stiff medicine for some beneficiaries while easing access to drugs containing pseudo...
    Buzz from the Beehive One of two new announcements on the government’s official website  – given plenty of publicity by the mainstream media over the past 24 hours – has been pitched as the first steps in a “reset” of the welfare system.  Stiff medicine for beneficiaries, in effect. The ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    12 hours ago
  • We’re not as fragile or as lazy as Luxon says
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    13 hours ago
  • Talking over the Silence.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    14 hours ago
  • LINDSAY MITCHELL: National needs to go further
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    15 hours ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National spreading panic about the economy
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    17 hours ago
  • The promise of passive house design
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  • Deep in the Uncanny Valley of AI
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    18 hours ago
  • Introducing: Big Worm Farm
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    19 hours ago
  • Why Massey is broke
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    20 hours ago
  • You keep Luxin' when you oughta be thruthin'
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago
  • The PM spoke of the need for tough choices – and then opted to beat a retreat when gays and Gaza a...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago
  • Keynesian Wisdom.
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    1 day ago
  • BRIAN EASTON: Puffing policy
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Is 2.8% per year population growth too much?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Will the 2024 RLTP be yet another debacle?
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    2 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #07
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    2 days ago
  • Immigration Issues.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Trust us, we know what we’re doing
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • The Left’s Timidity
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    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • OLIVER HARTWICH: Absurd – NZ courts can now decide on climate change
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Still waiting on that turnaround
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Mihi Forbes and the great Atlas conspiracy
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    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    4 days ago
  • Puffing Policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we need the money’. He explained that no-excise-duty ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • Luxon is one of three prime ministers pressing for a ceasefire in Gaza – but the two-state solutio...
    Buzz from the Beehive Two days after hundreds of people rallied outside the New Zealand parliament and the US embassy in Wellington to protest against what they maintain is genocide in Gaza,  Prime Minister Chris Luxon joined with the Prime Ministers of Australia and Canada to express their  concerns that ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • All jellied up with possum grease
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Equality comes to Greece
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER:  Iron in her soul.
      “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche   Chris Trotter writes – TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to Feb 16
    Net emigration of New Zealanders overseas hit a record-high 47,000 in the 2023 year, which only partly offset net immigration of 173,000, which was dominated by arrivals from India, the Philippines and China with temporary work visas. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Stop Whispering.
    There's nothing to sayAnd there's nothing to doStop whispering, start shoutingStop whispering, start shoutingYesterday our government surprised a few of us by standing up for something. It wasn’t for the benefit of people who own holiday homes and multiple investment properties. Neither were there any tobacco companies or fishing cartels ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • “I'm Not Keen on Whataboutism, But What About…”
    Hi,Not sure how your week is going, but I’ve had a pretty frustrating one. I’ve been trying to put my finger on it, and I think it’s perhaps distilled in this message I got on Twitter:What got me a bit riled up is that it was a response to the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National passing bad policies under urgency
    If National really had faith in its welfare policies, it wouldn’t be ramming them through Parliament under urgency – a step that means the policies can’t be exposed to select committee debate, public submissions, expert commentary, media scrutiny and all the normal democratic processes that this coalition appears to hold ...
    5 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 16-February-2024
    It’s Friday so once again here”s our roundup of some of the articles that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt looked at the Government’s war on Auckland. On Tuesday Matt covered the ongoing issues with the rail network. On Thursday Matt ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    5 days ago
  • The Dawn Chorus for Friday, February 16
    The six things to note in my view at 6.30 am on Friday, February 16 in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy are: Read more ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Iron In Her Soul.
    “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich NietzscheTELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP for Auckland Central is the odds-on ...
    5 days ago
  • Dig this
    Resources Minister Shane Jones yesterday told a breakfast hosted by Energy Resources Aotearoa precisely what they wanted to hear. “We campaigned to rehabilitate relegitimise and stand up for working families who derive their income,  derive their hope and derive purpose in regional New Zealand through a flourishing, growing, forward-leaning energy ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #7 2024
    Open access notables Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course, van Westen et al., Science Advances: Here, we show results of the first tipping event in the Community Earth System Model, including the large climate impacts of the collapse. Using these results, we develop a physics-based and ...
    5 days ago
  • A rejection of the rule of law
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Shrugging-Off The Atlas Network.
    Upholding The Status-Quo: The Left’s election defeat is not the work of the Atlas Network. It is not even the work of David Seymour and Act. It is the work of ordinary citizens who liked the Right’s stories better than they liked the Left’s. If the Right’s stories were made ...
    5 days ago
  • BARRIE SAUNDERS: Treaty Principles – all rather problematic
    Barrie Saunders writes – When ACT’s leader said they wanted legislation to state what the Treaty principles mean, my first thought was this will be controversial and divisive.  Clearly it is. The first reference to the principles of the Treaty were contained in the 1975 Act establishing the Treaty of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Luxon Rejects The “Rejection Election” At His Peril.
    Fitting Right In: National retailed a reactionary manifesto of right-wing, racially-charged policies to the electorate throughout 2023. No talk back then of ignoring the overwhelming political preferences of the voting public and making a strong stand on principle. If Luxon’s pollsters and focus-groups were telling him that the public was ...
    5 days ago
  • Valentine’s Day went unnoticed on the Beehive website – but it is not “baa, humbug” to celeb...
    Buzz from the Beehive None of our ministers – a quick check with the Beehive website suggests – found cause to mention, let along celebrate, Valentine’s Day. But two ministers – Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Rural Communities Minister Mark Patterson – ensured that National Lamb Day did not pass ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • Are You A Leftist?
    Nothing To Lose But Our Chains: The emancipatory movement which the Left, understood correctly, has always been, cannot accommodate those who are only able to celebrate one group’s freedom by taking it from another. The expectation, always, among leftists, is that liberty enlarges us. That striking-off a person’s shackles not ...
    5 days ago
  • An unlawful directive
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • I’ve been doing this all wrong
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • New study suggests the Atlantic overturning circulation AMOC “is on tipping course”
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    6 days ago
  • Valentines from ACT.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Tax cuts paid for by 13k more kids in poverty
    MSD advised the government that the indexation change it passed under urgency last night is likely to put around 7,000 extra children (and potentially up to 13,000) into poverty. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government has reverted indexation for main beneficiaries to price inflation from wage inflation under ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Fuel Tax Fight and Rail Fail update
    The two stories we covered at the start of the week continue to be in the headlines so it’s worth looking at the latest for each of them. Regional Fuel Tax Mayor Wayne Brown promised some ‘argy-bargy’ over the government’s decision to cancel the Regional Fuel Tax and he’s ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Arsonists
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • I don’t know!
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 7 examples And who actually makes the decisions? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know. America is a complex country, conservative on the one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out.   Tucker Carlson: Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate the settlement to this conflict? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know the details, of course it’s difficult for me to judge, but ...
    6 days ago
  • Fresh thinkers
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    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • It is not about age, it is about team.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • ROBERT MacCULLOCH: Fletcher Building – it is time to break up NZ’s most useless company.
    Robert MacCulloch writes –  Gosh, the CEO of Fletcher Building, Ross Taylor, says today’s announcement of a half-year loss of $120 million for the company is “disappointing” and was “heavily impacted” by the Convention Centre losses. He must be crying all the way to the bank (to quote Las ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Mortgage rates seen high for even longer
    Government and borrower hopes for early mortgage cost relief look likely to be thwarted. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Stronger-than-expected US inflation data out overnight is expected to delay the first US Federal Reserve rate cut into the second half of 2024, which in turn would hold mortgage rates ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, the first of the new Parliament. And to start the Parliament off, there's a bunch of first readings. A bunch of other bills have been postponed, so first up is Duncan Webb's District Court (Protecting Judgment Debtors on Main Benefit) Amendment Bill, followed by Katie ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Three Waters go down the legislative gurgler – but what should we make of Local Water Done Well?
    Buzz from the Beehive Local Government Minister Simeon Brown – it seems fair to suppose – was flushed with success after the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation. As he explained, repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing his government’s Local Water Done Well ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on five of Luxon’s Gaza absurdities
    Earlier this week, PM Christopher Luxon met with 48 public service CEOs to make sure they were on board with his plans to cut spending on public services so that National can proceed to give the revenue away to those New Zealanders least in need. This wasn’t the only absurdity ...
    7 days ago
  • Love and the Fairer Sex.
    This morning I woke early with many thoughts in my head of things said, events of the week, things that matter. I’m afraid none of them involved Seymour, Willis, or Luxon so if you’re looking for something political maybe take the day off and come back tomorrow. You won’t find ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    7 days ago
  • He stood up to Muldoon and Lange and the Fji army
    Gerald Hensley, who died aged 88 on Saturday, was the key official who presided over the tumultuous events that followed the election of the Lange Labour Government in 1984. He was also instrumental in helping a key Fijian official escape the country during one of the 1987 coups. A diplomat ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    7 days ago
  • At a glance – Has Arctic sea ice returned to normal?
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    1 week ago
  • Halo dunia!
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    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
    As a treat today I have lined up a favourite in the music slot. I love Turnaround, I cannot hear it too often, and I feel in need of a treat when I make myself listen to the Prime Minister the way I did this morning.He too, has favourites that ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • ELE LUDEMANN: Trusting locals
    Ele Ludemann writes- A government-knows-best and predilection for central control was another unfortunate feature of the 2017-2023 Labour governments. One of the worst polices as a result of that was what started as Three Waters and became several more. The National-led government is much more trusting of locals ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Legislation to flush away Three Waters has become a certainty – but we must wait for details on th...
    Buzz from the Beehive A  three-day information drought was broken, just after Point of Order published yesterday’s Buzz from the Beehive, and two significant ministerial announcements were made. First, the Budget will be delivered on 30 May, telling us which genuine savings have been made by eliminating waste and which ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago
  • Rise of the Lobbyists.
    An unpopular opinion, I love Auckland.Not so much the transport or the house prices - those are pretty dire. But there’s a lot to like. We’ve a vibrant, multicultural city in a beautiful location with, mostly, friendly locals. From the native bush of the Waitakeres to the Gulf islands, it’s ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago
  • The holes in National’s water reform pipes
    Young renters just have to watch on as pipes keep failing and the Government and councils point fingers at each other, because all the incentives are for ratepayers to block rates increases, water meters, water charges and the creation of new entities. File Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: The National-ACT-NZ First coalition ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago

  • Greater support for social workers
    The Coalition Government is enhancing the professionalism of the social work sector and supporting the vulnerable people who rely on them, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says.  The Social Workers Registration Legislation Amendment Bill passed its third reading in Parliament today. It amends the Social Workers Registration Legislation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Government delivers greater freedom and choice for sick New Zealanders
    The coalition government is delivering on its commitment to making principled decisions by getting rid of red tape that doesn’t make sense and allowing sick New Zealanders greater freedom and choice to purchase effective cold and flu medicines. A bill amending the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 is being introduced, and changes to the Medicines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • Government begins reset of welfare system
    The Coalition Government is taking early action to curb the surge in welfare dependency that occurred under the previous government by setting out its expectations around employment and the use of benefit sanctions, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. In 2017, 60,588 sanctions were applied to beneficiaries who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • State of the Nation
    Ka nui te mihi kia koutou. Kia ora, good morning, talofa, malo e lelei, bula vinaka, da jia hao, namaste, sat sri akal, assalamu alaikum. Thank you for coming to my first State of the Nation as Prime Minister. Thank you for coming to a speech where I don’t just ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • West Coast tourism attractions officially open
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will attend the official opening of two highly anticipated tourism projects on the West Coast today – Pike29 Memorial Track, dedicated to the memory of the Pike River miners, and Pounamu Pathway. “The Pike29 Memorial Track is a way to remember and honour the men ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Independent ferry service advisory group in place
    Appointments to the Ministerial Advisory Group tasked with providing independent advice and assurance on the future of KiwiRail’s inter-island ferry service have been made, State Owned Enterprises Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “It’s important for New Zealand that KiwiRail is focused on ensuring safe, resilient, and reliable ferry services over the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Joint statement from the Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
    The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on reports of Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah. We are gravely concerned by indications that Israel is planning a ground offensive into Rafah.   A military operation into Rafah would be catastrophic. About 1.5 million Palestinians ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Govt will deliver on expanded breast screening
    The coalition Government has made the first steps in delivering on its promise to  extend free breast screening to women aged 70-74, Health Minister Shane Reti says. “As part of the 100 day plan, the Government has now met with officials and discussed what is needed in order for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government announces woolshed roadshows in support of sheep farmers
    The Government celebrates National Lamb Day (15 February 24) and congratulates sheep farmers on the high-quality products they continue to produce. Agriculture Minister McClay hosted bipartisan celebrations of National Lamb Day with industry representatives at Parliament this week to mark the anniversary of the first frozen lamb exports that left ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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  • Speech: Address to the NZ Economics Forum
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