The response should have been to call in Wellington workplace delegates to stand and show public solidarity at the office and keep on trucking.
Back in the 80s at the sizeable Auckland Trade Union Centre in Grey Lynn, a full time front door security desk was set up following Ernie Abbott’s 1984 murder by suitcase bomb, at the Wellington Trades Hall. The open anti union threats had been escalating for years thanks to Muldoon, and further after Winston’s 1981 “Kiwis Care Tanya Harris march”. At that event signs were spotted–“kill communist union officials”…nice, but that is the dark New Zealanders for you.
The Kiwi Care march was not anything to do with Winston. It was not planned as an Anti-Union March but became hijacked in the Media as such. I spent a good portion of that day blocking Politicians from getting anywhere near the Mic.
I have said what wasn't planned as, and it wasn't anti-union. "Suits" tried to suck up to her all day and she didn't want a bar of them. What the media reported it to be is up to them.
Well, I was involved with the Northern Storeworkers and other unions at the time including retail, and the fact is all around the Auck. CBD employers granted paid time off and encouraged clerical workers too to attend the Tania Harris march with their blessing.
Bosses did not extend the same offer to staff for the two big Queen St NZFOL (NZ Federation of Labour) union marches of 1979 and 1982.
I was a member of the Clerical Union at the time. I don't recall being encouraged to attend or being given time off. Not saying it didn't happen to you though and yes it was hijacked by anti union sentiment people, but in my opinion it simply wasn't planned that way.
CBD employers granted paid time off and encouraged clerical workers too to attend the Tania Harris march with their blessing.
I can attest to that. In my case it was a Public Service department and the bosses also attended that March. I, and one other, were the only two who refused to attend so we stayed behind and ran the joint in their absence. For our pains we were ostracised by the bosses and made to feel like second grade individuals.
Tanya what's-her-name may not have intended as such, but it was hijacked by the anti -Union movement of the day.
if they had to call the police, they probably have had a credible death threat or similar. We're not in the 80s any more. We're post-Ashburton where a man walked into a WINZ office, murdered two staff and injured two others, unions take that shit very seriously. We're also in the age where the leader of a political party has been assaulted on the street while walking to work. And this election in particular is a point of tension where we don't know if we are going to tip into crazy or stronger democracy.
It’s not like the 80s were some placid time weka, we got door security at the TUC because someone had died in a clear attack on Unions. Sure if Police advise to do whatever, that has to be considered, but not at the risk of looking weak under anonymous threat.
Unions act in public and under great scrutiny–just doing a bargaining process agreement before you can even negotiate with an employer, is an example of the complexities faced by union members and organising staff.
In contrast the fruitcakes and would be fascists operate largely undercover and need to be outed where ever possible. Unions should publicly send them a message.
I was in the Wellington Trades Hall just a day before the bombing, working on a union newspaper. It was just fate that I was not there at the wrong time because I finished my duties that day.
I remember that a certain man had come by the place a few days before and had made some undisclosed threats to people in the building. The police were called, given a good description of the man but police apparently did not make much effort to locate him.
This was the time of the Muldoon government, there was a lot of industrial unrest in the country and there had been a recent bus drivers strike. The general consensus around Trades Hall was that police had been told by the Muldoon government not to pursue the matter and the culprit was never apprehended.
Poor old Ernie Abbot was the caretaker there, simply going about his job.
A bunch of commie unionists were not considered worthy of police protection, you know!
The general consensus around Trades Hall was that police had been told by the Muldoon government not to pursue the matter and the culprit was never apprehended.
Mike the Lefty that is of special interest to me.
I knew a small group of people (one in particular) who I later discovered had been up to all manner of under-the-radar political activities – including criminal deeds – in the 1970s and part of the 1980s. There was a close link between Muldoon and at least one of that group. I ended up also being targeted by them.
I was unaware of the extent of their activities nor the link to Muldoon until a number of years later. One of the principle figures fled to Aussie in strange circumstances and spent two years moving around the country – as if he was in hiding. That was, from memory, shortly before the 1984 snap election called by Muldoon.
I did eventually pluck up the courage to inform the police of my knowledge and experiences. The police to my knowledge conducted no investigation.
Just a brief encounter of my experience and I have to say my respect for, and faith in the police took a rapid spiral downward as a result and has never fully recovered.
Thanks for that information Anne. There did seem to be a gang operating under the implicit direction of Muldoon to seek out suspected communist political infiltrators. Bill Such was perhaps its best known target but Ken Douglas and Tom Skinner were also repeatedly harrassed. It was very covert but possibly had links to the SIS. Muldoon had few limits to the extent he would go for political gains.
Not only can I name a couple of the culprits, but I can also name one or two high profile individuals of the day who were involved. I can also name a newspaper that was in on the game. Yes, The Truth newspaper – a misnomer if ever there was one. And yes, there were innocent people caught up in the sting. I was one of them. An untold story thus far but I have in the past hinted at some of my experiences.
The criminal offences committed in the name of the former prime minister, RD Muldoon were numerous and affected a lot of people. Colin Moyle was another well publicised target. There were a few other major events of the period that were subjected to the same behaviour. The fallout from the 1979 Erebus tragedy was one of them. I'll leave it there.
The problem MtL there was a major cover-up. It has taken me almost 30 years to ferret out what really happened.
I would need assistance – someone with journalistic experience perhaps – to help me put it together in an acceptable form. I'm not sure after all these years whether there would be much appetite for the story.
Suffice to say it was tied up with the antics of the Cold War era and the paranoia that accompanied it.
It has crossed my mind but I think Hagar's interests lie in more recent events. 20 years ago he would have been intrigued I am sure, but unfortunately back then I didn't have the knowledge and understanding that I have now.
There is a book that might be of interest Anne, if you are not aware of it already, called “Seeing Red–Undercover in 1950s New Zealand”
By George Fraser. 1995 The Dunmore Press Ltd.
ISBN 0 86469 255 2
George was a jazz musician who also worked at NZBC with a relative of mine, and was recruited by special branch NZ Police who were the precursors of the NZ SIS, to be a plant in the NZ Communist Party and pass on information to them. Many adventures followed as can be imagined.
Interesting TM. I will check out my local library.
I researched the 1960s era for some background knowledge and it is clear there was a period between the hand-over to the newly minted SIS and the Police special branch when there were two spy agenciesa breaking into properties and conducting surveillance activity. My reasonably well informed conclusion is: it was the Police special branch crowd who were active in my case.
The police also put plants in the Labour Party during those decades. As a LP activist in the 1970s and part of the 1980s, I was befriended by one of them. She did a great job pretending to be a good friend and confidant. Imagine my shock and anger when I eventually discovered the truth about her.
Those types did a lot of irreversible damage to innocent people and were never brought to account. To my way of thinking, that is a big stain on the NZ body politic.
I would certainly love to read your story in a book Anne.I suspect the same stuff is happening today, not at the behest of a politician necessarily, but for eg entrenched secretive civil servants at GCSB,SIS and the multifarious intelligence agencies.For that reason your experience is absolutely relevant
I'm 90% sure that at least some of the activity linked to my case was related to the Police and not the SIS. The reason had its genesis in a former cabinet minister who checked out a particular incident at the time it occurred and it was not carried out by the SIS. They are the professionals in the game and there are limits beyond which they cannot go – and I don't believe would want to go. The bunch who were targeting me and others, including some politicians, were amateurs. They were almost certainly acting on behalf of Muldoon, but far enough removed to allow him to deny any direct association had anything come to light.
The problem after all these years is… the evidence has long since disappeared.
Yes, I know a couple of people that looked at the suitcase and left it undisturbed, and another that was meant to be at Trades Hall that day but changed plans.
Coincidentally, Mrs Mac1 and I visited the Trades Hall today and paid our respects to Ernie Abbot in the foyer there. I also found there two other paintings of union people killed. Lest we forget!
Yes, Tiger Mountain, those are they. You have not forgotten. You know, we have met and seen some very decent kiwis on our little travels to Wellington. Some great parents on the ferry, staff as well, and then here in the city. We read of dodgy people in the news and grotesque views in the social media, and we can get a different view of where Kiwis are. Kiwis like Ernie Abbot, Evans and Clarke. Decent folk. Good values. A world away from the sociopaths, the angry misfits and the greedy.
Our political campaigns should be aimed there- to get back the votes of decent ordinary folks, the true heart of our country.
They abound in all walks of life and it amazes me how well informed they are too. But you never hear from them. No clickbait to be had from normal, decent people.
I have to say Mike the Lefty…reading your stories, I have much Respect for you…Tiger Mountain, Anne and others. I did know about the Trades Hall bombing..but all of you have given me real Insight into the level of hate against the Left then.
You …were, and are now, only standing up for our rights.
Does the leader of a political party need real life experience.You know the trials and tribulations of the working class,family life,obligations to children and an understanding of the financial realities facing ordinary people.
Can't see how flying…virgin would be a qualification.
I still don’t know what you’re on about. Is this an exercise in hypotheticals or do you have anything specific you’d like to discuss here? Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Would they have said that about Christ, Mother Theresa and Mother Aubert? Heartless thing to say, especially as a good proportion of our population never will have been parents.
"More than one-quarter of the adults (27 percent) were childfree. More than half of the adults were parents (54 percent). Another 12 percent planned to have biological or adopted children in the future. The remaining 8 percent were childless—they didn't have children, but they wish they could."
We are told that Jacinda Ardern is to write a book about leadership.
Just one problem: Dan Carter has got his book out ahead of hers (see "The Art of Winning: Lessons in Leadership, Purpose and Potential", released in July).
As you well know gsays, winning an electorate is largely about the prevailing mood in the country and the political make up of the electorate-it is never ever a straight fight between two people.
I did so enjoy Chloe taking out Akl Central at the last election though
The mean Canadians find out that unilever/unilateral interpreting of the rules the way they want is not without arbitration/legal clarification.
New Zealand has just won a major trade dispute with Canada over restrictions on diary goods ….
… a CPTPP panel has publishing a ruling this morning in New Zealand's favour.
Hundreds of millions of potential trade for New Zealand dairy diary exporters was being restricted by Canada through a system of import tariffs and quotas, in breach of CPTPP rules, the panel determined.
Canada will now have to comply with the ruling to allow for diary imports, including from New Zealand.
The dispute has been a serious undertaking by the Government – Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern raised the issue in a face-to-face meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
Clearly the Canadians weren't 'pretty solid' in their interpretation of the agreement. 'Pretty solid' seems like a close cousin of 'pretty legal'. It does look like a fair chunk of the blokey part of the electorate finds over-confident, ignorant, opinionated chest-puffing to be pretty appealing though. Probably because it matches their own default methods for navigating the world.
Unfortunately the most flippant came across the best while the earnest two (Greens and NZ 1st) were less convincing. Hands down Seymour appeared the most on to it. He was what made me turn it off, his crime rhetoric.
I thought Willie Jackson did quite well (especially with a reasonably hostile audience – audible heckling). Jenny Marcroft was quite simply outweighted in the debate.
Jeez, you are a kinder judge than I. He has been told off by his boss for his outburst about National getting rid of the minimum wage then when challenged said they would lower it.
I agree it was surprisingly hostile towards Labour.
Hipkins did say Jackson got the "getting rid of MW" wrong, but said that Jackson himself admitted this during the debate.
Hipkins said Jackson was right about ACT's policy being to reduce the MW because it's policy is to freeze it which when inflation is taken into account is a reduction.
Got an email today from Nicola Willis complaining Labour spent billions in 6 years with little to show for it. Wonder what they would've said if Labour had let all businesses go to the wall over Covid instead of propping them up with unprecedented levels of welfare payments.
"Hi Chris,
Yesterday Chris Hipkins said that New Zealand's "economic fundamentals are in good shape."
What a shocker.
Despite Hipkins' assertion about New Zealand's economic fundamentals, the reality is very different.
After six years of wasting billions of extra dollars with little to show for it, New Zealand's economy has fallen into recession.
There are Kiwis struggling to pay their bills every single day and whose mortgages are simply becoming too much to handle.
Inflation is running at 6% driving a prolonged cost of living crisis. Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation and mortgage repayments are too much for many Kiwis to handle
New Zealand is the only country in the Asia-Pacific region in recession.
IMF forecasts indicate we’ll have one of the worst economic growth rates in the world next year – putting jobs and incomes at risk.
Every Kiwi in the country knows these are not sound economic fundamentals, except apparently Chris Hipkins who has shown just how out of touch he is with the lives of every day Kiwis.
New Zealanders deserve competent economic management.
This election the choice is clear – a strong, stable National-led Government that will rebuild the economy to reduce the cost of living and help Kiwis get ahead, including with well-deserved tax relief for the squeezed middle.
Or three more years of a high taxing, high spending Labour-led government that is out of touch with reality and lacks the plans and ideas needed to address the issues facing New Zealanders.
Let’s get our country back on track.
Nicola Willis
National Party Deputy Leader and Spokesperson for Finance"
He [Our PM] also outlined some economic headlines:
Under Labour
The economy is 6.7% larger than before Covid. Since the depths of the Covid recession, New Zealand’s economy has grown by 10.2% compared to 8.8% for Australia, 7.6% for the US, 7.1% for the Euro Area and 6.1% for the UK, according to the IMF.
Unemployment below 4% for eight consecutive quarters
Strong Government finances: Affirmed last week by Fitch. Net debt of 18.9% of GDP, below Australia, the US, and the UK according to the IMF.
Seven trade agreements singed or upgraded; FTAs now cover almost three quarters of New Zealand’s export.
Hahaha… good one. She really said that? It's a little bit like Australia in the last year where the LNP suddenly finds a voice for the "not so well off" after screwing them for years, every year (ROBODEBT anyone?).
It's always a little hypothetical to look back and imagine what would have happened with another party in government. But two things I'm relatively certain of:
The minimum wage today would be lower under National / Act and
The living wage today would be lower under National / Act
With similar inflation / mortgage figures.
Wasn't it Bill English who admitted the National Party wants to keep wages low?
The idea this Govt is more wasteful than others is not supported by evidence. Govts spend more in crisis periods, and the Sixth Labour Govt has faced a few expensive ones. Total Govt spending hit 48.1% of GDP in 2011 under a National Govt with (C&S from Act, UF and TPM).
Just wondering… are posts being blocked on this site due to political affiliation?
[lprent: Typically you’ll be stuck in moderation if the system hasn’t seen you before under your current ‘e-mail’. You have to have one comment approved by a moderator under a e-mail or handle before further comments appear automatically. That reduces the amount of spam we have to clean up.
Or you do certain behaviors like having too many links, or words and phrases that look like trolling to the automatic mechanisms. Again a spam reduction technique.
Or a moderator picked out some previous bad behavior under either you current alias or a previous one and put you into moderation. Read the policy if you wish to avoid that. Basically say something that makes it appear that you thought about what you were saying and explain why. Don’t be a dimwitted parrot – because we consider that to be trolling spam.
In this case it is the first because you’re using different e-mail handles. Pretty obvious if you look at your previous comments in search. The gravators change frequently.
I suggest that stop being such a dickhead and just stick to a single ‘e-mail’. Don’t whine to the moderators because you are too irresponsible to control your own behaviour. ]
You’ve been in Pre-Moderation for almost a month (see https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-11-08-2023/#comment-1963798). You haven’t responded and continued making unnecessary work for the Mods here, also by including too many links. This and the piss-poor quality of your comments suggests that you’re heading for the Exit. I’d suggest you respond to the outstanding Mod note and lift your game if you wish to keep your commenting privilege here – pissing off Mods & SYSOP is not smart.
“New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has the audacity to claim his government never mandated vaccines:
“In terms of the vaccine mandates, I acknowledge that it was a challenging time for people but they ultimately made their own choices. There was no compulsory vaccination. People made their own choices.”
Hipkins was the country's minister when New Zealand instituted mandatory vaccinations for health workers, military, teachers, university students, police officers, travel, many sports, and small businesses.”
[lprent: I also trashed your 2-3 previous versions of this comment. Moderators will get around to freeing up comments in moderation when they get some time.
You also left more than 10 links in the comment. This is a automatic moderation as well because it is a astroturfing technique beloved by dumbarse machines and parrots. While you’re mostly astroturfing a dictionary, it still looks like astroturfing which I disapprove of. You may notice that don’t run any other kinds of advertising on the site. Why should we run yours?
I count two small paragraphs that appear to be your own words (maybe). So I’ve damaged all links.
Use no more than about 2-3 links in comment in future, and write about why people should click into them rather than leaving meaningless clickbait comeons that read like a pimp in front of New Orleans brothel.
Otherwise I’ll start assuming that you’re just a stupid parrot or a autobot and act accordingly. ]
They weren’t coercive measures. They were public health measures exactly like stopping people crapping on a footpath, street, public place, or into a waterway used for drinking water. Or for that matter, on the floor in a office.
Do you approve of people crapping street? If so, could you please explain why?
Similarly restricting people with potentially carrying a notifiable disease from entering an office is no different from requiring that people don’t crap on the floor in a workspace. Both are health risks to the other people in the same location. So we have laws and regulations about health orders to minimize the spread of disease.
They don’t involve coercion as in dragging people away and locking them up. We do have those as well. But they were used in the first part of the lockdowns before we had widespread vaccines and medical treatments, and at the border. Again to slow the spread of the disease the Director of Health ordered most places to be closed and restrictions on travel. Worked too.
The rules about masking and unvaccinated after vaccines became widespread weren’t so much the government as the property owners and managers, employers, retailers could be charged if they allowed violations of a health order. Now that does include the government as a property owner, manager, funder and employer of most health facilities, all military, most teachers, all universities, and all police officers. They are just as bound by health orders as anyone else. The Director of Health who issues those orders is just as bound by the legislation. They are required to act in certain ways under pandemic or epidemic situations.
Frankly you’re an idiot if you haven’t read the relevant legislation. Which as far as I can tell you have not.
The choice of being liable to the consequences of enabling behavior that violates those health orders is left to businesses large and small and organizations. Their response was usually to conform, because the alternative would have been for the health ministry to direct the police to prosecute those organisations.
Now personally I would be all in favour of repealing those restrictions from the health and pandemic response acts /sarc. Provided they also repealed the restrictions on other citizens about beating disease carriers to prevent them from entering our public and work spaces. Shutting them in ghettos. Lynchings. Because that used to be the standard behavior during pandemics during pre-vaccine history. The health legislation is a tradeoff between two forms of ‘freedom’
I would have had a murderous response to having unvaccinated, unmasked medical staff while I was in hospital for emergency care during the lockdown. If not to the individuals, then certainly to those who employed them to endanger me. It is exactly the same degree of reckless behavior as having a medical people do child births with dirty hands.
The ‘coercion’ in the health laws is two way process. You should be extremely wary of unleashing the freedom to remove perceived existential threats in a free manner.
But I guess you just like crapping out bacteria and virus loads wherever you like eh?
Really I suspect that you are simply a selfish arsehole crapping on this site probably as you express your ‘freedom’ to defecate in the street in real life.
Yes I appreciate that SPC
I;m not necessarily backing KS,just wishing for a bit more civility in life .We don’t always agree for instance ,but you never descend to ugly emotive language or abuse
Then again you don’t have a privileged position here
After being on social networks since 1980 while I was using the Waikato uni internal messaging. Since then I have been on local and global BBSes, usenet, blogs, work networks, and the current social media. It has always been my opinion that 'civility' is vastly overrated on social media.
The pattern of people on social media who call for civility are usually that don't have a history of using sites and haven't seen exactly how they deteriorate from trolls uninterested in discussion using them as point scoring toilet.
Or are trolls who are uninterested in discussion and long on wanting to express their opinions without dealing with responses. They use it as an victim excuse to avoid discussion on a topic that they raised. As student of online behaviour it is a pattern that comes up over and over again.
You may not agree with that assessment. I simply don't care because, as usual, you haven't provided any argument to back your ill-informed opinion. You haven't explained the origin of the experience that forms your opinion. Haven't explained why you think more civility is a good idea. Nor have you suggested any other strategies for dealing with the obnoxious who are less interested in listening to other than they are in crapping on a 'free' pavement without dealing with the consequences. (this analogy may be a somewhat too subtle for you as you don't appear to have picked up on why I specifically used it in responding to KS).
There must be a way to get your message across without playground bullying. A smart fellow like you would have many resources at hand
Yes there are many. But the absolute best one for dealing with someone repeating childish and offensive behaviour on a social site is to personally tear one of their comments apart in public and make it about them and their behaviour. That tends to be memorable to them even as they try to sneer at it. It makes them cautious about repeating similar online behaviour. It is a step that is less destructive of their ability to comment and usually less work for a moderators long term than alternatives.
KS came to my attention this time because they made a complaint that I read while I was doing a moderation sweep. They had 4 comments in auto-moderation. 3 were duplicated astroturfs and the other one was a victim statement from a incompetent troll spammer.
They had used a different 'email' yet again.
They'd put more than 10 unnecessary links into a comment.
It was clearly an attempt to astroturf a spam comment on this site.
Claimed victim status when they ran into anti-spam code.
Didn't bother to look for alternate explanations.
Unlike you. I did some work before taking any action.
I read their comments in moderation.
Looked up their previous comments and several changes in identity.
I looked up their previous interactions on the site and found that they had done this kind of behaviour many times before. Not only under this handle and variants of it. But also under other ones. Saw that they had been warned about the behaviour before.
Scanned the web and found the same lines parroted across multiple sites by multiple handles.
There was no personal opinion or thought in what they said, it was just something that they'd copied. They'd dumped it onsite here to try to get a rise
Why should I respect or treat with civility someone who has a history of dropping crap comments here, who wastes our time, and who never engages with replies with discussion or argument, but who always either just makes Trumpian proclamations of their own infallibility or the Trumpian persecution and victim statements, and who is apparently puppet of a spam factory.
So I did a comment that was absolutely bound to offend them personally. I sneered at them. Made references to their real and imaged disgusting behaviour. Wove in an appropriate analogy to their behaviour on this site.
It succeeded in its intent. As you can see it got an offended response in a way that previous moderation had not. Was almost certainly memorable to KS and will help educate them about how others view them. It will also probably give them bragging rights on Kiwiblog or BFH or whatever echo chamber that they parroted their comment from. It will also discourage them from doing the same behaviour here when they come back under that handle or another.
That is the role of a sysop on a social site. They are the BOFH and can do things that others cannot do as easily. It takes time and effort to do that effectively – something that you clearly do not understand. It is about a clinical as any other kind of potty training.
Now perhaps you'd now like to look at your comments, and consider how they would appear to this veteran of social media. I suspect you may have some difficulties with having to look at anything from a perspective other than your own constrained worldview.
You'll note that aside from a few snarky asides, this comment was 'civil'. It is also probably just as offensive to you as my comment was to KS.
Consider that it was meant to be and see if you can figure out why.
Seems to be set to NZ. But I seldom use the dictionary functions, and really don't care what spelling I use. I'm a programmer. So functional legibility and being able to compile /link are about the limits of what I get concerned about whilst writing.
However I can't see any particular Americanisms in the comment you responded to.
So I suspect that you should have been born French and taken a job at the Académie Française at the worlds premier idiotic language police (they appear to recruit heavily from the anally retentive). It doesn't really suit English as the premier bastard sticky language of the world.
There was no forced vaccination. The freedom from forced medical treatment by the state was maintained. However, it was balanced against the freedom of other people to use state-run healthcare facilities in the expectation that they would not be exposed to avoidable (possibly fatal) risks. Why do libertarian nutters not understand that freedom is is dynamic network of reciprocated obligations?
We (NZ) had this out at the time about the vaccines. Make your choice but be aware of the consequences of any choice you make. Certain people, many of whom ended up at the protest at Parliament, had great difficulty, as you indicate, understanding this then and the passage of time hasn't improved their understanding.
Same as any moral dilemma – I am sure those who opposed conscription made the decision not to go to war in the knowledge that there would be consequences.
It just seems to be recently that we have the notion of consequence-free decisions such as these. I guess another name for it is entitlement. I am not talking about those who physically could not have an injection, allergies, having chemo etc etc. These are the people we were trying to protect by halting the spread so their risk could be lessened.
I am not talking about those who physically could not have an injection, allergies, having chemo etc etc.
It became obligatory for anyone who tried to stand -up to the naysayers (remember Rosemary McDonald) to finish up with this proviso because if we didn't, we were accused by said naysayers of "not caring about the immuno compromised" when the opposite was true.
One of my friends was immuno compromised at the time and wanted to have an injection/protection and the lengths that her medical people went to to make sure she was able to have protection. She had access to the alternative and had several boosters before we were being urged to have ours. So immuno compromised plus wanting to be protected did not mean a person could not have the injection.
I think some home 'Drs' and conspiracy theorists made out that just because you were immuno compromised or allergic you couldn't be protected.
Now they seem to be rerunning the force/coercion argument instead of the choice argument. I know if I had felt strongly about the vaccination I would have chosen not to and accepted any consequences of my decisions including whether I kept my job.
If National get in, Upton should remain exactly where he is.
As the Minister who got the RMA through, and with big EU specialist credentials, when Upton speaks National listen. Believe it or not there are earnest blue-greens in there.
Upton will be particularly important if Act get the Environment portfolio and really start burning regulations.
Statistically, yes. As there were pacifists and those who cared for the plight of the working class Tommy amongst the officers at Passchendaele. And there wouldn’t have been those without the Victorian fashion for younger daughters and 4th sons to have a care for charity and the moral education of the less seemly parts of town.
But action didn’t happen until the Tories were turfed out. And here the Tories are those denialists and shoe draggers of all colours of rosette. Yep, right there if the Nats win. Sure.
I’m living in some kind of retconable world where he could drop in at 10 on the list and perhaps even pick up a teal seat somewhere. And really ramp up the electoral urgency for climate action.
C and Cs climate credentials leave a lot to be desired.
And f- me I hadn’t considered a world where those to the right of groundswell get any input into this…The fire at those ‘protests’ is their literal platform.
Don’t worry Ad, Chippy is a riding into town. It’s far from over just yet. Just watching how much the TPU polls continue to say exactly what the Nats want…
This is a positive sign for future lowering of NZ emissions. Apparently might make the Treasury forecast off by $900 million but really who cares. The budget typically misses by a few billion within 6 month anyway.
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This may be rhetorical but here goes: did any of you invest in the $Libra memecoin endorsed and backed by Argentine president and darling of the global Right Javier Milei (who admitted to being paid a fee for his promotion of the token)? You know, the one that soared above ...
Last week various of the great and good of New Zealand economics and public policy trooped off to Hamilton (of all places) for the annual Waikato Economics Forum, one of the successful marketing drives of university’s Vice-Chancellor. My interest was in the speeches delivered by the Minister of Finance and ...
The Prime Minister says the Government would be open to sending peacekeepers to Ukraine if a ceasefire was reached. The government has announced a $30 million spend on tourism infrastructure and biodiversity projects, including $11m spent to improve popular visitor sites and further $19m towards biodiversity efforts. A New Zealand-born ...
This is a re-post from The Climate Brink by Andrew Dessler “But what about when the sun doesn't shine?!” Ah yes, the energy debate’s equivalent of “The Earth is flat!” Every time someone mentions solar or wind power, some self-proclaimed energy expert emerges from the woodwork to drop this supposedly devastating truth bomb: ...
This post by Nicolas Reid was originally published on Linked in. It is republished here with permission.In this article I look into data on how well the rail network serve New Zealanders, and how many people might be able to travel by train… if we ran more than a ...
Hi,Before we get into Hayden Donnell’s new column about how yes, Donald Trump is definitely the Antichrist, I wanted to touch on something feral that happened in New Zealand last week.Members of Destiny Church pushed and punched their way into an Auckland library, apparently angry it was part of Pride ...
Despite delays, logjams and overcrowding in our emergency departments, funding constraints are limiting the numbers of nurses and doctors being trained. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Tuesday, February 18 are:A NZ Herald investigation ...
Now that the US has ripped up the Atlantic alliance, Europe is more vulnerable now than at any time since the mid-1930s. Apparently, Europe and Ukraine itself will not have a seat at the table in the talks between US President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin that will ...
Olivia and Noah and Hana are going to the library!It is fun to go to the library. It has books and songs and mat time and people who smile at you and say, Hello Olivia, what have you been doing this morning?The library is more fun than the mall. At ...
New World Orders: The challenge facing Christopher Luxon and Chris Hipkins is how to keep their small and vulnerable nation safe and stable in a world whose economic and political climate the forty-seventh American president is changing so profoundly.IT IS, SURELY, the ultimate Millennial revenge fantasy. Calling senior Baby-Boomer and Gen-X ...
“This might surprise you, Laurie, but I reckon Trump’s putting on a bloody impressive performance.”“GOODNESS ME, HANNAH, just look at all those Valentine’s Day cards!”“Occupational hazard, Laurie, the more beer I serve, the more my customers declare their undying love!”“Crikey! I had no idea business was so good.” Laurie squinted ...
In 2005, Labour repealed the long-standing principle of birthright citizenship in Aotearoa. Why? As with everything else Labour does, it all came down to austerity: "foreign mothers" were supposedly "coming to this country to give birth", and this was "put[ting] pressure on hospitals". Then-Immigration Minister George Hawkins explicitly gave this ...
And I just hope that you can forgive usBut everything must goAnd if you need an explanation, nationThen everything must goSongwriters: James Dean Bradfield / Sean Anthony Moore / Nicholas Allen Jones.Today, I’d like to talk about a couple of things that happened over the weekend:Brian Tamaki’s Library Invasion and ...
New reporting highlights how Brooke van Velden refuses to meet with the CTU but is happy to meet with fringe Australian-based unions. Van Velden is pursuing reckless changes to undermine the personal grievance system against the advice of her own officials. Engineering New Zealand are saying that hundreds of engineers ...
The NZCTU strongly supports the Employment Relations (Employee Remuneration Disclosure) Amendment Bill. This Bill represents a positive step towards addressing serious issues around unlawful disparities in pay by protecting workers’ rights to discuss their pay and conditions. This Bill also provides welcome support for helping tackle the prevalent gender and ...
Years of hard work finally paid off last week as the country’s biggest and most important transport project, the City Rail Link reached a major milestone with the first test train making its way slowly though the tunnels for the first time. This is a fantastic achievement and it is ...
Engineers are pleading for the Government to free up funds to restart stalled projects. File Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Monday, February 17 are:Engineering New Zealand CEO Richard Templer said yesterday hundreds of ...
It’s one of New Zealand’s great sustaining myths: the spirit of ANZAC, our mates across the ditch, the spirit of Earl’s Court, Antipodeans united against the world. It is also a myth; it is not reality. That much was clear from a series of speakers, including a former Australian Prime ...
Many people have been unsatisfied for years that things have not improved for them, some as individuals, many more however because their families are clearly putting in more work, for less money – and certainly far less purchase on society. This general discontent has grown exponentially since the GFC. ...
A listing of 34 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, February 9, 2025 thru Sat, February 15, 2025. This week's roundup is again published soleley by category. We are still interested in feedback to hone the categorization, so if ...
The Salvation Army’s State of the Nation report shows worsening food poverty and housing shortages mean more than 400,000 people now need welfare support, the highest level since the 1990s. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in our political economy around housing, climate and ...
You're just too too obscure for meOh you don't really get through to meAnd there's no need for you to talk that wayIs there any less pessimistic things to say?Songwriters: Graeme DownesToday, I thought we’d take a look at some of the most cringe-inducing moments from last week, but don’t ...
Please note: I’ve delayed my “What can we do?” article for this video.The video above shows Destiny Church members assaulting staff and librarians as they pushed through to a room of terrified parents and young children.It was posted to social media last night.But if you read Sinead Boucher’s Stuff, you ...
Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Is sea level rise exaggerated? Sea levels are rising at an accelerating rate, not stagnating or decreasing. Warming global temperatures cause land ice ...
Here is a scenario, but first a historical parallel. Hitler and the Nazis could well have accomplished everything that they wanted to do within German borders, including exterminating Jews, so long as they confined their ambitious to Germany itself. After all, the world pretty much sat and watched as the ...
I’ve spent the last couple of days in Hamilton covering Waikato University’s annual NZ Economics Forum, where (arguably) three of the most influential people in our political economy right now laid out their thinking in major speeches about the size and role of Government, their views on for spending, tax ...
Simeon Brown’s Ideology BentSimeon Brown once told Kiwis he tries to represent his deep sense of faith by interacting “with integrity”.“It’s important that there’s Christians in Parliament…and from my perspective, it’s great to be a Christian in Parliament and to bring that perspective to [laws, conversations and policies].”And with ...
Severe geological and financial earthquakes are inevitable. We just don’t know how soon and how they will play out. Are we putting the right effort into preparing for them?Every decade or so the international economy has a major financial crisis. We cannot predict exactly when or exactly how it will ...
Questions1. How did Old Mate Grabaseat describe his soon-to-be-Deputy-PM’s letter to police advocating for Philip Polkinghorne?a.Ill-advisedb.A perfect letterc.A letter that will live in infamyd.He had me at hello2. What did Seymour say in response?a.What’s ill-advised is commenting when you don’t know all the facts and ...
NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi President Richard Wagstaff has called on OJI Fibre Solutions to work with the government, unions, and the community before closing the Kinleith Paper Mill. “OJI has today announced 230 job losses in what will be a devastating blow for the community. OJI needs to work with ...
NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi President Richard Wagstaff is sounding the alarm about the latest attack on workers from Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Brooke van Velden, who is ignoring her own officials to pursue reckless changes that would completely undermine the personal grievance system. “Brooke van Velden’s changes will ...
Hi,When I started writing Webworm in 2020, I wrote a lot about the conspiracy theories that were suddenly invading our Twitter timelines and Facebook feeds. Four years ago a reader, John, left this feedback under one of my essays:It’s a never ending labyrinth of lunacy which, as you have pointed ...
And if you said this life ain't good enoughI would give my world to lift you upI could change my life to better suit your moodBecause you're so smoothAnd it's just like the ocean under the moonOh, it's the same as the emotion that I get from youYou got the ...
Aotearoa remains the minority’s birthright, New Zealand the majority’s possession. WAITANGI DAY commentary see-saws manically between the warmly positive and the coldly negative. Many New Zealanders consider this a good thing. They point to the unexamined patriotism of July Fourth and Bastille Day celebrations, and applaud the fact that the ...
The podcast above of the weekly ‘Hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers on Thursday night features co-hosts & talking about the week’s news with regular and special guests, including: and on the week in geopolitics, including the latest from Donald Trump’s administration over Gaza and Ukraine; on the ...
Up until now, the prevailing coalition view of public servants was that there were simply too many of them. But yesterday the new Public Service Commissioner, handpicked by the Luxon Government, said it was not so much numbers but what they did and the value they produced that mattered. Sir ...
In a moment we explore the question: What is Andrew Bayly wanting to tell ACC, and will it involve enjoying a small wine tasting and then telling someone to fuck off? But first, for context, a broader one: What do we look for in a government?Imagine for a moment, you ...
As expected, Donald Trump just threw Ukraine under the bus, demanding that it accept Russia's illegal theft of land, while ruling out any future membership of NATO. Its a colossal betrayal, which effectively legitimises Russia's invasion, while laying the groundwork for the next one. But Trump is apparently fine with ...
A ballot for a single member's bill was held today, and the following bill was drawn: Employment Relations (Collective Agreements in Triangular Relationships) Amendment Bill (Adrian Rurawhe) The bill would extend union rights to employees in triangular relationships, where they are (nominally) employed by one party, but ...
This is a guest post by George Weeks, reviewing a book called ‘How to Fly a Horse’ by Kevin AshtonBook review: ‘How to Fly a Horse’ by Kevin Ashton (2015) – and what it means for Auckland. The title of this article might unnerve any Greater Auckland ...
This story was originally published by Capital & Main and is part of Covering Climate Now, a global journalism collaboration strengthening coverage of the climate story. Within just a week, the sheer devastation of the Los Angeles wildfires has pushed to the fore fundamental questions about the impact of the climate crisis that have been ...
In this world, it's just usYou know it's not the same as it wasSongwriters: Harry Edward Styles / Thomas Edward Percy Hull / Tyler Sam JohnsonYesterday, I received a lovely message from Caty, a reader of Nick’s Kōrero, that got me thinking. So I thought I’d share it with you, ...
In past times a person was considered “unserious” or “not a serious” person if they failed to grasp, behave and speak according to the solemnity of the context in which they were located. For example a serious person does not audibly pass gas at Church, or yell “gun” at a ...
Long stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Thursday, February 13 are:The coalition Government’s early 2024 ‘fiscal emergency’ freeze on funding, planning and building houses, schools, local roads and hospitals helped extend and deepen the economic and jobs recession through calendar ...
For obvious reasons, people feel uneasy when the right to be a citizen is sold off to wealthy foreigners. Even selling the right to residency seems a bit dubious, when so many migrants who are not millionaires get turned away or are made to jump through innumerable hoops – simply ...
A new season of White Lotus is nearly upon us: more murder mystery, more sumptuous surroundings, more rich people behaving badly.Once more we get to identify with the experience of the pampered tourist or perhaps the poorly paid help; there's something in White Lotus for all New Zealanders.And unlike the ...
In 2016, Aotearoa shockingly plunged to fourth place in the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index. Nine years later, and we're back there again: New Zealand has seen a further slip in its global ranking in the latest Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI). [...] In the latest CPI New Zealand's score ...
1. You’ve started ranking your politicians on how much they respect the rule of law2. You’ve stopped paying attention to those news publications3. You’ve developed a sudden interest in a particular period of history4. More and more people are sounding like your racist, conspiracist uncle.5. Someone just pulled a Nazi ...
Transforming New Zealand: Brian EastonBrian Easton will discuss the above topic at 2/57 Willis Street, Wellington at 5:30pm on Tuesday 26 February at 2/57 Willis Street, WellingtonThe sub-title to the above is "Why is the Left failing?" Brian Easton's analysis is based on his view that while the ...
Salvation Army’s State of the Nation 2025 report highlights falling living standards, the highest unemployment rates since the 1990s and half of all Pacific children going without food. There are reports of hundreds if not thousands of people are applying for the same jobs in the wake of last year’s ...
Mountain Tui is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Correction: On the article The Condundrum of David Seymour, Luke Malpass conducted joint reviews with Bryce Wilkinson, the architect of the Regulatory Standards Bill - not Bryce Edwards. The article ...
Tomorrow the council’s Transport, Resilience and Infrastructure Committee meet and agenda has a few interesting papers. Council’s Letter of Expectation to Auckland Transport Every year the council provide a Letter of Expectation to Auckland Transport which is part of the process for informing AT of the council’s priorities and ...
All around in my home townThey're trying to track me down, yeahThey say they want to bring me in guiltyFor the killing of a deputyFor the life of a deputySongwriter: Robert Nesta Marley.Support Nick’s Kōrero today with a 20% discount on a paid subscription to receive all my newsletters directly ...
Hi,I think all of us have probably experienced the power of music — that strange, transformative thing that gets under our skin and helps us experience this whole life thing with some kind of sanity.Listening and experiencing music has always been such a huge part of my life, and has ...
Business frustration over the stalled economy is growing, and only 34% of voters are confidentNicola Willis can deliver. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Wednesday, February 12 are:Business frustration is growing about a ...
I have now lived long enough to see a cabinet minister go both barrels on their Prime Minister and not get sacked.It used to be that the PM would have a drawer full of resignations signed by ministers on the day of their appointment, ready for such an occasion. But ...
This session will feature Simon McCallum, Senior Lecturer in Engineering and Computer Science (VUW) and recent Labour Party candidate in the Southland Electorate talking about some of the issues around AI and how this should inform Labour Party policy. Simon is an excellent speaker with a comprehensive command of AI ...
The proposed Waimate garbage incinerator is dead: The company behind a highly-controversial proposal to build a waste-to-energy plant in the Waimate District no longer has the land. [...] However, SIRRL director Paul Taylor said the sales and purchase agreement to purchase land from Murphy Farms, near Glenavy, lapsed at ...
The US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act has been a vital tool in combatting international corruption. It forbids US companies and citizens from bribing foreign public officials anywhere in the world. And its actually enforced: some of the world's biggest companies - Siemens, Hewlett Packard, and Bristol Myers Squibb - have ...
December 2024 photo - with UK Tory Boris Johnson (Source: Facebook)Those PollsFor hours, political poll results have resounded across political hallways and commentary.According to the 1News Verizon poll, 50% of the country believe we are heading in the “wrong direction”, while 39% believe we are “on the right track”.The left ...
A Tai Rāwhiti mill that ran for 30 years before it was shut down in late 2023 is set to re-open in the coming months, which will eventually see nearly 300 new jobs in the region. A new report from Massey University shows that pensioners are struggling with rising costs. ...
As support continues to fall, Luxon also now faces his biggest internal ructions within the coalition since the election, with David Seymour reacting badly to being criticised by the PM. File photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāLong stories short, the top six things in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate ...
Not since 1988 when Richard Prebble openly criticised David Lange have we seen such a challenge to a Prime Minister as that of David Seymour to Christopher Luxon last night. Prebble suggested Lange had mental health issues during a TV interview and was almost immediately fired. Seymour hasn’t gone quite ...
Three weeks in, and the 24/7 news cycle is not helping anyone feel calm and informed about the second Trump presidency. One day, the US is threatening 25% trade tariffs on its friends and neighbours. The reasons offered by the White House are absurd, such as stopping fentanyl coming in ...
This video includes personal musings and conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Adam Levy. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). Wherever you look, you'll hear headlines claiming we've passed 1.5 degrees of global warming. And while 2024 saw ...
“The ACT Party can’t be bothered putting an MP on one of the Justice subcommittees hearing submissions on their own Treaty Principles Bill,” Labour Justice Spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
The Government’s newly announced funding for biodiversity and tourism of $30-million over three years is a small fraction of what is required for conservation in this country. ...
The Government's sudden cancellation of the tertiary education funding increase is a reckless move that risks widespread job losses and service reductions across New Zealand's universities. ...
National’s cuts to disability support funding and freezing of new residential placements has resulted in significant mental health decline for intellectually disabled people. ...
The hundreds of jobs lost needlessly as a result of the Kinleith Mill paper production closure will have a devastating impact on the Tokoroa community - something that could have easily been avoided. ...
Today Te Pāti Māori MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi, released her members bill that will see the return of tamariki and mokopuna Māori from state care back to te iwi Māori. This bill will establish an independent authority that asserts and protects the rights promised in He Whakaputanga ...
The Whangarei District Council being forced to fluoridate their local water supply is facing a despotic Soviet-era disgrace. This is not a matter of being pro-fluoride or anti-fluoride. It is a matter of what New Zealanders see and value as democracy in our country. Individual democratically elected Councillors are not ...
Nicola Willis’ latest supermarket announcement is painfully weak with no new ideas, no real plan, and no relief for Kiwis struggling with rising grocery costs. ...
Half of Pacific children sometimes going without food is just one of many heartbreaking lowlights in the Salvation Army’s annual State of the Nation report. ...
The Salvation Army’s State of the Nation report is a bleak indictment on the failure of Government to take steps to end poverty, with those on benefits, including their children, hit hardest. ...
New Zealand First has today introduced a Member’s Bill which would restore decision-making power to local communities regarding the fluoridation of drinking water. The ‘Fluoridation (Referendum) Legislation Bill’ seeks to repeal the Health (Fluoridation of Drinking Water) Amendment Act 2021 that granted centralised authority to the Direct General of Health ...
New Zealand First has introduced a Member’s Bill aimed at preventing banks from refusing their services to businesses because of the current “Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) Framework”. “This Bill ensures fairness and prevents ESG standards from perpetuating woke ideology in the banking sector being driven by unelected, globalist, climate ...
Erica Stanford has reached peak shortsightedness if today’s announcement is anything to go by, picking apart immigration settings piece by piece to the detriment of the New Zealand economy. ...
Our originating document, theTreaty of Waitangi, was signed on February 6, 1840. An agreement between Māori and the British Crown. Initially inked by Ngā Puhi in Waitangi, further signatures were added as it travelled south. The intention was to establish a colony with the cession of sovereignty to the Crown, ...
Te Whatu Ora Chief Executive Margie Apa leaving her job four months early is another symptom of this government’s failure to deliver healthcare for New Zealanders. ...
The Green Party is calling for the Prime Minister to show leadership and be unequivocal about Aotearoa New Zealand’s opposition to a proposal by the US President to remove Palestinians from Gaza. ...
The latest unemployment figures reveal that job losses are hitting Māori and Pacific people especially hard, with Māori unemployment reaching a staggering 9.7% for the December 2024 quarter and Pasifika unemployment reaching 10.5%. ...
Waitangi 2025: Waitangi Day must be community and not politically driven - Shane Jones Our originating document, theTreaty of Waitangi, was signed on February 6, 1840. An agreement between Māori and the British Crown. Initially inked by Ngā Puhi in Waitangi, further signatures were added as it travelled south. ...
Despite being confronted every day with people in genuine need being stopped from accessing emergency housing – National still won’t commit to building more public houses. ...
The Green Party says the Government is giving up on growing the country’s public housing stock, despite overwhelming evidence that we need more affordable houses to solve the housing crisis. ...
Before any thoughts of the New Year and what lies ahead could even be contemplated, New Zealand reeled with the tragedy of Senior Sergeant Lyn Fleming losing her life. For over 38 years she had faithfully served as a front-line Police officer. Working alongside her was Senior Sergeant Adam Ramsay ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson will return to politics at Waitangi on Monday the 3rd of February where she will hold a stand up with fellow co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick. ...
Te Pāti Māori is appalled by the government's blatant mishandling of the school lunch programme. David Seymour’s ‘cost-saving’ measures have left tamariki across Aotearoa with unidentifiable meals, causing distress and outrage among parents and communities alike. “What’s the difference between providing inedible food, and providing no food at all?” Said ...
The Government is doubling down on outdated and volatile fossil fuels, showing how shortsighted and destructive their policies are for working New Zealanders. ...
Green Party MP Steve Abel this morning joined Coromandel locals in Waihi to condemn new mining plans announced by Shane Jones in the pit of the town’s Australian-owned Gold mine. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to strengthen its just-announced 2030-2035 Nationally Determined Contribution (NDC) under the Paris Agreement and address its woeful lack of commitment to climate security. ...
The Government’s commitment to get New Zealand’s roads back on track is delivering strong results, with around 98 per cent of potholes on state highways repaired within 24 hours of identification every month since targets were introduced, Transport Minister Chris Bishop says. “Increasing productivity to help rebuild our economy is ...
The former Cadbury factory will be the site of the Inpatient Building for the new Dunedin Hospital and Health Minister Simeon Brown says actions have been taken to get the cost overruns under control. “Today I am giving the people of Dunedin certainty that we will build the new Dunedin ...
From today, Plunket in Whāngarei will be offering childhood immunisations – the first of up to 27 sites nationwide, Health Minister Simeon Brown says. The investment of $1 million into the pilot, announced in October 2024, was made possible due to the Government’s record $16.68 billion investment in health. It ...
New Zealand’s strong commitment to the rights of disabled people has continued with the response to an important United Nations report, Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston has announced. Of the 63 concluding observations of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD), 47 will be progressed ...
Resources Minister Shane Jones has launched New Zealand’s national Minerals Strategy and Critical Minerals List, documents that lay a strategic and enduring path for the mineral sector, with the aim of doubling exports to $3 billion by 2035. Mr Jones released the documents, which present the Coalition Government’s transformative vision ...
Firstly I want to thank OceanaGold for hosting our event today. Your operation at Waihi is impressive. I want to acknowledge local MP Scott Simpson, local government dignitaries, community stakeholders and all of you who have gathered here today. It’s a privilege to welcome you to the launch of the ...
Racing Minister, Winston Peters has announced the Government is preparing public consultation on GST policy proposals which would make the New Zealand racing industry more competitive. “The racing industry makes an important economic contribution. New Zealand thoroughbreds are in demand overseas as racehorses and for breeding. The domestic thoroughbred industry ...
Business confidence remains very high and shows the economy is on track to improve, Economic Growth Minister Nicola Willis says. “The latest ANZ Business Outlook survey, released yesterday, shows business confidence and expected own activity are ‘still both very high’.” The survey reports business confidence fell eight points to +54 ...
Enabling works have begun this week on an expanded radiology unit at Hawke’s Bay Fallen Soldiers’ Memorial Hospital which will double CT scanning capacity in Hawke’s Bay to ensure more locals can benefit from access to timely, quality healthcare, Health Minister Simeon Brown says. This investment of $29.3m in the ...
The Government has today announced New Zealand’s second international climate target under the Paris Agreement, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand will reduce emissions by 51 to 55 per cent compared to 2005 levels, by 2035. “We have worked hard to set a target that is both ambitious ...
Nine years of negotiations between the Crown and iwi of Taranaki have concluded following Te Pire Whakatupua mō Te Kāhui Tupua/the Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill passing its third reading in Parliament today, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “This Bill addresses the historical grievances endured by the eight iwi ...
As schools start back for 2025, there will be a relentless focus on teaching the basics brilliantly so all Kiwi kids grow up with the knowledge, skills and competencies needed to grow the New Zealand of the future, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “A world-leading education system is a key ...
Housing Minister Chris Bishop and Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson have welcomed Kāinga Ora’s decision to re-open its tender for carpets to allow wool carpet suppliers to bid. “In 2024 Kāinga Ora issued requests for tender (RFTs) seeking bids from suppliers to carpet their properties,” Mr Bishop says. “As part ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour has today visited Otahuhu College where the new school lunch programme has served up healthy lunches to students in the first days of the school year. “As schools open in 2025, the programme will deliver nutritious meals to around 242,000 students, every school day. On ...
Minister for Children Karen Chhour has intervened in Oranga Tamariki’s review of social service provider contracts to ensure Barnardos can continue to deliver its 0800 What’s Up hotline. “When I found out about the potential impact to this service, I asked Oranga Tamariki for an explanation. Based on the information ...
A bill to make revenue collection on imported and exported goods fairer and more effective had its first reading in Parliament, Customs Minister Casey Costello said today. “The Customs (Levies and Other Matters) Amendment Bill modernises the way in which Customs can recover the costs of services that are needed ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jennifer Stone, Principal Research Fellow, School of Population and Global Health, The University of Western Australia Gorodenkoff/Shutterstock Having dense breasts is a clear risk factor for breast cancer. It can also make cancers hard to spot on mammograms. Yet you ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The National Anti-Corruption Commission will finally investigate whether six people referred to it by the royal commission into Robodebt engaged in corrupt conduct. This follows an independent reconsideration by former High Court judge Geoffrey ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Blaxland, Professor, Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, Australian National University Last week in Europe, the United States sent some very strong messages it is prepared to upend the established global order. US Vice President JD Vance warned a stunned Munich ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Reserve Bank has delivered the expected modest rate cut of a quarter of a percentage point, and we’re set for the predictable frenzy of speculation about an April election. The cut is unlikely to ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Hawkins, Senior Lecturer, Canberra School of Politics, Economics and Society, University of Canberra The Reserve Bank cut official interest rates on Tuesday, the first decrease in four years, saying inflationary pressures are easing “a little more quickly than expected”. However, the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The Reserve Bank has delivered the expected modest rate cut of a quarter of a percentage point, and we’re set for the predictable frenzy of speculation about an April election. The cut is unlikely to ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Allan Fels, Professor Allan Fels, Professor of Law, Economics and Business at the University of Melbourne and Monash University., The University of Melbourne Australia is creeping towards adding a divestiture power to its Competition and Consumer Act. Under such a law, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Arjen Vaartjes, PhD Student, Quantum Physics, UNSW Sydney Dmitriy Rybin / Shutterstock What makes something quantum? This question has kept a small but dedicated fraction of the world’s population – most of them quantum physicists – up at night for decades. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Mary Anne Kenny, Associate Professor, School of Law, Murdoch University Australia’s minister for home affairs announced on Sunday that the federal government has struck a deal with Nauru to “resettle” three non-citizens from what’s come to be known as the “NZYQ cohort”. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Matt Fitzpatrick, Professor in International History, Flinders University (From left to right): Neville Chamberlain, Édouard Daladier, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, and Italian Foreign Minister Galeazzo Ciano before signing the Munich Agreement, which gave the Sudetenland to Germany.German Federal Archives/Wikimedia Commons Ukraine ...
The purpose was to establish the facts and provide an independent assessment of government agency activity in relation to allegations that personal data may have been misused during the 2023 General Election. ...
Privacy Commissioner Michael Webster said he is carefully reviewing the referrals raised in the two reports. That work will be done in the context the Privacy Act and the need to ensure individuals’ rights to privacy is protected and respected. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Bhavna Middha, ARC DECRA Senior Research Fellow, Centre for Urban Research, RMIT University The average Australian household size has decreased from 4.5 people per household in 1911 to 2.5 people in 2024. At the same time, the average house size has increased, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Catherine Page Jeffery, Lecturer in Media and Communications, University of Sydney suriyachan/Shutterstock When the Australian government passed legislation in November last year banning young people under 16 from social media, it included exemptions for platforms “that are primarily for the purposes ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Leslie Roberson, Postdoctoral research fellow, Centre for Biodiversity and Conservation Science, The University of Queensland If you’ve ever been stopped by quarantine officers at the airport, you might think Australia’s international border is locked down like a fortress. But when it comes ...
Duncan Sarkies’ latest novel, Star Gazers, is about the collapse of democracy in a society of alpaca breeders. Here are some things his intensive research revealed. 1 How greed works, psychologicallyYes, I guess I already understood greed, but I could never understand why people who already have everything they ...
The proposed cuts would see only two full time Telehealth data and digital roles, and one Planning, Funding and Outcomes (PFO) role remain, reduced from 17 Telehealth support roles (including vacant roles). Roles proposed to be cut include Telehealth ...
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National vs Labour yes. But also ACT vs Greens. Cue Seymour/Rimmer with yet more mouthdrain..
And on the back of his "reckons" of historical icons who woulda voted ACT (Nelson Mandela ! ) He also "reckons" Kate Sheppard !?
And….a bit of
Who seriously thinks he is worthy of a vote?
Those who value money above all else.
Really CTU…retreat? Mr Wagstaff–please stand up to the thugs.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/election-2023-council-of-trade-unions-closes-doors-to-public-calls-cops-after-concerning-response-to-christoper-luxon-attack-ad.html
The response should have been to call in Wellington workplace delegates to stand and show public solidarity at the office and keep on trucking.
Back in the 80s at the sizeable Auckland Trade Union Centre in Grey Lynn, a full time front door security desk was set up following Ernie Abbott’s 1984 murder by suitcase bomb, at the Wellington Trades Hall. The open anti union threats had been escalating for years thanks to Muldoon, and further after Winston’s 1981 “Kiwis Care Tanya Harris march”. At that event signs were spotted–“kill communist union officials”…nice, but that is the dark New Zealanders for you.
The Kiwi Care march was not anything to do with Winston. It was not planned as an Anti-Union March but became hijacked in the Media as such. I spent a good portion of that day blocking Politicians from getting anywhere near the Mic.
Of course it was anti-union. Harris and the suits marched in response to rolling- strikes by engineers, wharfies, meat workers and firemen.
I have said what wasn't planned as, and it wasn't anti-union. "Suits" tried to suck up to her all day and she didn't want a bar of them. What the media reported it to be is up to them.
Well, I was involved with the Northern Storeworkers and other unions at the time including retail, and the fact is all around the Auck. CBD employers granted paid time off and encouraged clerical workers too to attend the Tania Harris march with their blessing.
Bosses did not extend the same offer to staff for the two big Queen St NZFOL (NZ Federation of Labour) union marches of 1979 and 1982.
I was a member of the Clerical Union at the time. I don't recall being encouraged to attend or being given time off. Not saying it didn't happen to you though and yes it was hijacked by anti union sentiment people, but in my opinion it simply wasn't planned that way.
I can attest to that. In my case it was a Public Service department and the bosses also attended that March. I, and one other, were the only two who refused to attend so we stayed behind and ran the joint in their absence. For our pains we were ostracised by the bosses and made to feel like second grade individuals.
Tanya what's-her-name may not have intended as such, but it was hijacked by the anti -Union movement of the day.
if they had to call the police, they probably have had a credible death threat or similar. We're not in the 80s any more. We're post-Ashburton where a man walked into a WINZ office, murdered two staff and injured two others, unions take that shit very seriously. We're also in the age where the leader of a political party has been assaulted on the street while walking to work. And this election in particular is a point of tension where we don't know if we are going to tip into crazy or stronger democracy.
It’s not like the 80s were some placid time weka, we got door security at the TUC because someone had died in a clear attack on Unions. Sure if Police advise to do whatever, that has to be considered, but not at the risk of looking weak under anonymous threat.
Unions act in public and under great scrutiny–just doing a bargaining process agreement before you can even negotiate with an employer, is an example of the complexities faced by union members and organising staff.
In contrast the fruitcakes and would be fascists operate largely undercover and need to be outed where ever possible. Unions should publicly send them a message.
I was in the Wellington Trades Hall just a day before the bombing, working on a union newspaper. It was just fate that I was not there at the wrong time because I finished my duties that day.
I remember that a certain man had come by the place a few days before and had made some undisclosed threats to people in the building. The police were called, given a good description of the man but police apparently did not make much effort to locate him.
This was the time of the Muldoon government, there was a lot of industrial unrest in the country and there had been a recent bus drivers strike. The general consensus around Trades Hall was that police had been told by the Muldoon government not to pursue the matter and the culprit was never apprehended.
Poor old Ernie Abbot was the caretaker there, simply going about his job.
A bunch of commie unionists were not considered worthy of police protection, you know!
Mike the Lefty that is of special interest to me.
I knew a small group of people (one in particular) who I later discovered had been up to all manner of under-the-radar political activities – including criminal deeds – in the 1970s and part of the 1980s. There was a close link between Muldoon and at least one of that group. I ended up also being targeted by them.
I was unaware of the extent of their activities nor the link to Muldoon until a number of years later. One of the principle figures fled to Aussie in strange circumstances and spent two years moving around the country – as if he was in hiding. That was, from memory, shortly before the 1984 snap election called by Muldoon.
I did eventually pluck up the courage to inform the police of my knowledge and experiences. The police to my knowledge conducted no investigation.
Just a brief encounter of my experience and I have to say my respect for, and faith in the police took a rapid spiral downward as a result and has never fully recovered.
Thanks for that information Anne. There did seem to be a gang operating under the implicit direction of Muldoon to seek out suspected communist political infiltrators. Bill Such was perhaps its best known target but Ken Douglas and Tom Skinner were also repeatedly harrassed. It was very covert but possibly had links to the SIS. Muldoon had few limits to the extent he would go for political gains.
Not only can I name a couple of the culprits, but I can also name one or two high profile individuals of the day who were involved. I can also name a newspaper that was in on the game. Yes, The Truth newspaper – a misnomer if ever there was one. And yes, there were innocent people caught up in the sting. I was one of them. An untold story thus far but I have in the past hinted at some of my experiences.
The criminal offences committed in the name of the former prime minister, RD Muldoon were numerous and affected a lot of people. Colin Moyle was another well publicised target. There were a few other major events of the period that were subjected to the same behaviour. The fallout from the 1979 Erebus tragedy was one of them. I'll leave it there.
I love to see all this in a book, have you considered writing one?
The problem MtL there was a major cover-up. It has taken me almost 30 years to ferret out what really happened.
I would need assistance – someone with journalistic experience perhaps – to help me put it together in an acceptable form. I'm not sure after all these years whether there would be much appetite for the story.
Suffice to say it was tied up with the antics of the Cold War era and the paranoia that accompanied it.
Hi Anne,
I value your experiences and a book would of infinite value. Have you thought to contact Nicky Hagar
It has crossed my mind but I think Hagar's interests lie in more recent events. 20 years ago he would have been intrigued I am sure, but unfortunately back then I didn't have the knowledge and understanding that I have now.
There is a book that might be of interest Anne, if you are not aware of it already, called “Seeing Red–Undercover in 1950s New Zealand”
By George Fraser. 1995 The Dunmore Press Ltd.
ISBN 0 86469 255 2
George was a jazz musician who also worked at NZBC with a relative of mine, and was recruited by special branch NZ Police who were the precursors of the NZ SIS, to be a plant in the NZ Communist Party and pass on information to them. Many adventures followed as can be imagined.
Interesting TM. I will check out my local library.
I researched the 1960s era for some background knowledge and it is clear there was a period between the hand-over to the newly minted SIS and the Police special branch when there were two spy agenciesa breaking into properties and conducting surveillance activity. My reasonably well informed conclusion is: it was the Police special branch crowd who were active in my case.
The police also put plants in the Labour Party during those decades. As a LP activist in the 1970s and part of the 1980s, I was befriended by one of them. She did a great job pretending to be a good friend and confidant. Imagine my shock and anger when I eventually discovered the truth about her.
Those types did a lot of irreversible damage to innocent people and were never brought to account. To my way of thinking, that is a big stain on the NZ body politic.
I would certainly love to read your story in a book Anne.I suspect the same stuff is happening today, not at the behest of a politician necessarily, but for eg entrenched secretive civil servants at GCSB,SIS and the multifarious intelligence agencies.For that reason your experience is absolutely relevant
@ Francesca.
I'm 90% sure that at least some of the activity linked to my case was related to the Police and not the SIS. The reason had its genesis in a former cabinet minister who checked out a particular incident at the time it occurred and it was not carried out by the SIS. They are the professionals in the game and there are limits beyond which they cannot go – and I don't believe would want to go. The bunch who were targeting me and others, including some politicians, were amateurs. They were almost certainly acting on behalf of Muldoon, but far enough removed to allow him to deny any direct association had anything come to light.
The problem after all these years is… the evidence has long since disappeared.
Yes, I know a couple of people that looked at the suitcase and left it undisturbed, and another that was meant to be at Trades Hall that day but changed plans.
Coincidentally, Mrs Mac1 and I visited the Trades Hall today and paid our respects to Ernie Abbot in the foyer there. I also found there two other paintings of union people killed. Lest we forget!
FG Evans (Waihi miner 1912) and Christine Clarke (Lyttleton Port picket 1999)?
Yes, Tiger Mountain, those are they. You have not forgotten. You know, we have met and seen some very decent kiwis on our little travels to Wellington. Some great parents on the ferry, staff as well, and then here in the city. We read of dodgy people in the news and grotesque views in the social media, and we can get a different view of where Kiwis are. Kiwis like Ernie Abbot, Evans and Clarke. Decent folk. Good values. A world away from the sociopaths, the angry misfits and the greedy.
Our political campaigns should be aimed there- to get back the votes of decent ordinary folks, the true heart of our country.
They abound in all walks of life and it amazes me how well informed they are too. But you never hear from them. No clickbait to be had from normal, decent people.
I have to say Mike the Lefty…reading your stories, I have much Respect for you…Tiger Mountain, Anne and others. I did know about the Trades Hall bombing..but all of you have given me real Insight into the level of hate against the Left then.
You …were, and are now, only standing up for our rights.
Which NAct will be only too keen to take away.
Yep – nobody got past the stalwarts who staffed that desk.
Does the leader of a political party need real life experience.You know the trials and tribulations of the working class,family life,obligations to children and an understanding of the financial realities facing ordinary people.
Can't see how flying…virgin would be a qualification.
Was this comment meant for
TwitterX orFacebookMeta? It sure reads like it.No.I'm quite genuine .
Should political leaders have a grounding in real life experience.
The so called squeezed middle is about families coping with everyday life.
A single,celibate person would not have much voter appeal,I would suggest.
I still don’t know what you’re on about. Is this an exercise in hypotheticals or do you have anything specific you’d like to discuss here? Say what you mean and mean what you say.
I remember that some media outlets accused Helen Clark of having no empathy for families because she herself had no children.
Would they have said that about Christ, Mother Theresa and Mother Aubert? Heartless thing to say, especially as a good proportion of our population never will have been parents.
Just looked it up on Google! https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/living-single/202107/the-truth-about-people-who-remain-childfree
"More than one-quarter of the adults (27 percent) were childfree. More than half of the adults were parents (54 percent). Another 12 percent planned to have biological or adopted children in the future. The remaining 8 percent were childless—they didn't have children, but they wish they could."
We are told that Jacinda Ardern is to write a book about leadership.
Just one problem: Dan Carter has got his book out ahead of hers (see "The Art of Winning: Lessons in Leadership, Purpose and Potential", released in July).
And Carter knew how to win, of course.
I know Ardern was the P.M of NZ,thats leadership.
Not sure if Carter even captained the AB's.He was a brilliant rugby player,no doubt.
She won. Twice. Never lost.
Tell that to Nikki Kaye.
“Ardern and Kaye have been political rivals for years.
They ran against each other in Auckland Central in 2011 and 2014 – Kaye winning both times.”
https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-national/i-wish-her-all-best-arderns-tribute-nikki-kaye
As you well know gsays, winning an electorate is largely about the prevailing mood in the country and the political make up of the electorate-it is never ever a straight fight between two people.
I did so enjoy Chloe taking out Akl Central at the last election though
Yeah, Chloe is one Green MP who seems to keep a lot better grounded than some of her colleagues. Says what she thinks and is smart in a low-key style.
Martyn Bradbury thinks Chloe is the best thing since sliced bread.
Winner on the rugby field .
Not so much in business ,
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/3977187/Last-of-Carters-Gas-fashion-stores-closes-leaving-1m-debt
Also backed a failed NFT 'business' last year .
The mean Canadians find out that unilever/
unilateralinterpreting of the rules the way they want is not without arbitration/legal clarification.Reporting by Thomas
ManchMnachSome should take note.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300964832/election-2023-live-new-zealand-wins-trade-dispute-with-canada
Clearly the Canadians weren't 'pretty solid' in their interpretation of the agreement. 'Pretty solid' seems like a close cousin of 'pretty legal'. It does look like a fair chunk of the blokey part of the electorate finds over-confident, ignorant, opinionated chest-puffing to be pretty appealing though. Probably because it matches their own default methods for navigating the world.
So was this ruling undertaken by one of those secret arbitration panels we all opposed during TPPA protests
Was Canada trying to protect its own farmers?
Or was there some other reason?
Amazing, I didn't realize that NZ had a significant "diary" export business to Canada.
Must be all of those trees we grow….. /sarc/
I wouldn't have thought that the trade in "diary" goods was a major part of NZ's economy.
I enjoyed the … robust … exchange of views at the Taxpayers Union debate last night.
Hosted (I won't say moderated) by Martyn Bradbury and Damien Grant.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/09/election-2023-willie-jackson-david-seymour-trade-barbs-over-justice-policies.html
While I doubt any views will have been changed in the course of the evening – it was interesting to see the clash of views.
It wasn't until nearly the end of the article that you knew that National's Paul Goldsmith was there as well.
That guy is such a non-entity that if he failed to show up for his own birthday party nobody would notice.
I managed about 3/4 of an hour.
Unfortunately the most flippant came across the best while the earnest two (Greens and NZ 1st) were less convincing. Hands down Seymour appeared the most on to it. He was what made me turn it off, his crime rhetoric.
I thought Willie Jackson did quite well (especially with a reasonably hostile audience – audible heckling). Jenny Marcroft was quite simply outweighted in the debate.
Jeez, you are a kinder judge than I. He has been told off by his boss for his outburst about National getting rid of the minimum wage then when challenged said they would lower it.
I agree it was surprisingly hostile towards Labour.
Get the facts right gsays.
Hipkins did say Jackson got the "getting rid of MW" wrong, but said that Jackson himself admitted this during the debate.
Hipkins said Jackson was right about ACT's policy being to reduce the MW because it's policy is to freeze it which when inflation is taken into account is a reduction.
I was describing what I saw.
You are talking about what Hipkins said about it.
Got an email today from Nicola Willis complaining Labour spent billions in 6 years with little to show for it. Wonder what they would've said if Labour had let all businesses go to the wall over Covid instead of propping them up with unprecedented levels of welfare payments.
"Hi Chris,
Yesterday Chris Hipkins said that New Zealand's "economic fundamentals are in good shape."
What a shocker.
Despite Hipkins' assertion about New Zealand's economic fundamentals, the reality is very different.
After six years of wasting billions of extra dollars with little to show for it, New Zealand's economy has fallen into recession.
There are Kiwis struggling to pay their bills every single day and whose mortgages are simply becoming too much to handle.
Inflation is running at 6% driving a prolonged cost of living crisis. Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation and mortgage repayments are too much for many Kiwis to handle
New Zealand is the only country in the Asia-Pacific region in recession.
IMF forecasts indicate we’ll have one of the worst economic growth rates in the world next year – putting jobs and incomes at risk.
Every Kiwi in the country knows these are not sound economic fundamentals, except apparently Chris Hipkins who has shown just how out of touch he is with the lives of every day Kiwis.
New Zealanders deserve competent economic management.
This election the choice is clear – a strong, stable National-led Government that will rebuild the economy to reduce the cost of living and help Kiwis get ahead, including with well-deserved tax relief for the squeezed middle.
Or three more years of a high taxing, high spending Labour-led government that is out of touch with reality and lacks the plans and ideas needed to address the issues facing New Zealanders.
Let’s get our country back on track.
Nicola Willis
National Party Deputy Leader and Spokesperson for Finance"
Labour… the Horror, I tell ya
Here we go (Stuff – Election 2023 live stream):
He [Our PM] also outlined some economic headlines:
Under Labour
I like this from Willis:
"Wages aren’t keeping up with inflation and mortgage repayments are too much for many Kiwis to handle"
Pure fcuking gold.
Hahaha… good one. She really said that? It's a little bit like Australia in the last year where the LNP suddenly finds a voice for the "not so well off" after screwing them for years, every year (ROBODEBT anyone?).
It's always a little hypothetical to look back and imagine what would have happened with another party in government. But two things I'm relatively certain of:
With similar inflation / mortgage figures.
Wasn't it Bill English who admitted the National Party wants to keep wages low?
No contradiction there then.
Reckless spending..
/
Edward Miller
@labourcartel
The idea this Govt is more wasteful than others is not supported by evidence. Govts spend more in crisis periods, and the Sixth Labour Govt has faced a few expensive ones. Total Govt spending hit 48.1% of GDP in 2011 under a National Govt with (C&S from Act, UF and TPM).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5TEeonbMAAHF8M?format=png&name=small
https://twitter.com/labourcartel/status/1699200448639684716
And Scotty makes four.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/09/06/fourth-act-candidate-resigns-in-lead-up-to-election/
I shared that to FB Joe. It is going to be a sad day if Seymour and his fellow nutters form part of the next government.
Just wondering… are posts being blocked on this site due to political affiliation?
[lprent: Typically you’ll be stuck in moderation if the system hasn’t seen you before under your current ‘e-mail’. You have to have one comment approved by a moderator under a e-mail or handle before further comments appear automatically. That reduces the amount of spam we have to clean up.
Or you do certain behaviors like having too many links, or words and phrases that look like trolling to the automatic mechanisms. Again a spam reduction technique.
Or a moderator picked out some previous bad behavior under either you current alias or a previous one and put you into moderation. Read the policy if you wish to avoid that. Basically say something that makes it appear that you thought about what you were saying and explain why. Don’t be a dimwitted parrot – because we consider that to be trolling spam.
In this case it is the first because you’re using different e-mail handles. Pretty obvious if you look at your previous comments in search. The gravators change frequently.
https://thestandard.org.nz/search/%40author+%22Karl+Sinclair%22/?search_comments=true&search_posts=true&search_sortby=date
I suggest that stop being such a dickhead and just stick to a single ‘e-mail’. Don’t whine to the moderators because you are too irresponsible to control your own behaviour. ]
You’ve been in Pre-Moderation for almost a month (see https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-11-08-2023/#comment-1963798). You haven’t responded and continued making unnecessary work for the Mods here, also by including too many links. This and the piss-poor quality of your comments suggests that you’re heading for the Exit. I’d suggest you respond to the outstanding Mod note and lift your game if you wish to keep your commenting privilege here – pissing off Mods & SYSOP is not smart.
Kiwis are meant to be straight up no bs people…What the hell has happened to us…1984 protocols!
This is sadly why I’m ditching labour. Playing Orwellian semantics it’s not ok…. (Be straight up)
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1698860930644504790?s=46&t=Mb3vWtlQ9iVITzFN3xvWAQ
“Unbelievable.
“New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has the audacity to claim his government never mandated vaccines:
“In terms of the vaccine mandates, I acknowledge that it was a challenging time for people but they ultimately made their own choices. There was no compulsory vaccination. People made their own choices.”
Hipkins was the country's minister when New Zealand instituted mandatory vaccinations for health workers, military, teachers, university students, police officers, travel, many sports, and small businesses.”
Definition coercion
the use of force to persuade someone to do something that they are unwilling to do:
He claimed the police had used coercion, threats, and promises to obtain the statement illegally.
Check out also the Canadian Government’s Justin T bs
https://youtu.be/gS2OeHbO1Yk?si=Sxrz015CZIbGaeHG
[lprent: I also trashed your 2-3 previous versions of this comment. Moderators will get around to freeing up comments in moderation when they get some time.
You also left more than 10 links in the comment. This is a automatic moderation as well because it is a astroturfing technique beloved by dumbarse machines and parrots. While you’re mostly astroturfing a dictionary, it still looks like astroturfing which I disapprove of. You may notice that don’t run any other kinds of advertising on the site. Why should we run yours?
I count two small paragraphs that appear to be your own words (maybe). So I’ve damaged all links.
Use no more than about 2-3 links in comment in future, and write about why people should click into them rather than leaving meaningless clickbait comeons that read like a pimp in front of New Orleans brothel.
Otherwise I’ll start assuming that you’re just a stupid parrot or a autobot and act accordingly. ]
They weren’t coercive measures. They were public health measures exactly like stopping people crapping on a footpath, street, public place, or into a waterway used for drinking water. Or for that matter, on the floor in a office.
Do you approve of people crapping street? If so, could you please explain why?
Similarly restricting people with potentially carrying a notifiable disease from entering an office is no different from requiring that people don’t crap on the floor in a workspace. Both are health risks to the other people in the same location. So we have laws and regulations about health orders to minimize the spread of disease.
They don’t involve coercion as in dragging people away and locking them up. We do have those as well. But they were used in the first part of the lockdowns before we had widespread vaccines and medical treatments, and at the border. Again to slow the spread of the disease the Director of Health ordered most places to be closed and restrictions on travel. Worked too.
The rules about masking and unvaccinated after vaccines became widespread weren’t so much the government as the property owners and managers, employers, retailers could be charged if they allowed violations of a health order. Now that does include the government as a property owner, manager, funder and employer of most health facilities, all military, most teachers, all universities, and all police officers. They are just as bound by health orders as anyone else. The Director of Health who issues those orders is just as bound by the legislation. They are required to act in certain ways under pandemic or epidemic situations.
Frankly you’re an idiot if you haven’t read the relevant legislation. Which as far as I can tell you have not.
The choice of being liable to the consequences of enabling behavior that violates those health orders is left to businesses large and small and organizations. Their response was usually to conform, because the alternative would have been for the health ministry to direct the police to prosecute those organisations.
Now personally I would be all in favour of repealing those restrictions from the health and pandemic response acts /sarc. Provided they also repealed the restrictions on other citizens about beating disease carriers to prevent them from entering our public and work spaces. Shutting them in ghettos. Lynchings. Because that used to be the standard behavior during pandemics during pre-vaccine history. The health legislation is a tradeoff between two forms of ‘freedom’
I would have had a murderous response to having unvaccinated, unmasked medical staff while I was in hospital for emergency care during the lockdown. If not to the individuals, then certainly to those who employed them to endanger me. It is exactly the same degree of reckless behavior as having a medical people do child births with dirty hands.
The ‘coercion’ in the health laws is two way process. You should be extremely wary of unleashing the freedom to remove perceived existential threats in a free manner.
But I guess you just like crapping out bacteria and virus loads wherever you like eh?
Really I suspect that you are simply a selfish arsehole crapping on this site probably as you express your ‘freedom’ to defecate in the street in real life.
Your site so you can be as unpleasant as you like
There must be a way to get your message across without playground bullying.A smart fellow like you would have many resources at hand
I can only assume you enjoy throwing your weight around
Anyone else would be chucked out for starting a "flame war"
I do realize this is a sackable offense speaking out and I'll take whatever punishment happily
KS has been ditching Labour again and again via posts on this site …. This is why … who on the left follows Charlie Kirk?
Yes I appreciate that SPC
I;m not necessarily backing KS,just wishing for a bit more civility in life .We don’t always agree for instance ,but you never descend to ugly emotive language or abuse
Then again you don’t have a privileged position here
This is how I look at it…
Yes there are many. But the absolute best one for dealing with someone repeating childish and offensive behaviour on a social site is to personally tear one of their comments apart in public and make it about them and their behaviour. That tends to be memorable to them even as they try to sneer at it. It makes them cautious about repeating similar online behaviour. It is a step that is less destructive of their ability to comment and usually less work for a moderators long term than alternatives.
Unlike you. I did some work before taking any action.
Why should I respect or treat with civility someone who has a history of dropping crap comments here, who wastes our time, and who never engages with replies with discussion or argument, but who always either just makes Trumpian proclamations of their own infallibility or the Trumpian persecution and victim statements, and who is apparently puppet of a spam factory.
So I did a comment that was absolutely bound to offend them personally. I sneered at them. Made references to their real and imaged disgusting behaviour. Wove in an appropriate analogy to their behaviour on this site.
It succeeded in its intent. As you can see it got an offended response in a way that previous moderation had not. Was almost certainly memorable to KS and will help educate them about how others view them. It will also probably give them bragging rights on Kiwiblog or BFH or whatever echo chamber that they parroted their comment from. It will also discourage them from doing the same behaviour here when they come back under that handle or another.
That is the role of a sysop on a social site. They are the BOFH and can do things that others cannot do as easily. It takes time and effort to do that effectively – something that you clearly do not understand. It is about a clinical as any other kind of potty training.
Now perhaps you'd now like to look at your comments, and consider how they would appear to this veteran of social media. I suspect you may have some difficulties with having to look at anything from a perspective other than your own constrained worldview.
You'll note that aside from a few snarky asides, this comment was 'civil'. It is also probably just as offensive to you as my comment was to KS.
Consider that it was meant to be and see if you can figure out why.
Er umm…"dissing"?
Reason No. xyt.
OK. I didn’t read the KS. comment. Apols.
Lprent- Any chance you could set your setting to English-NZ or English-UK, unless of course you are an American ?
Seems to be set to NZ. But I seldom use the dictionary functions, and really don't care what spelling I use. I'm a programmer. So functional legibility and being able to compile /link are about the limits of what I get concerned about whilst writing.
However I can't see any particular Americanisms in the comment you responded to.
So I suspect that you should have been born French and taken a job at the Académie Française at the worlds premier idiotic language police (they appear to recruit heavily from the anally retentive). It doesn't really suit English as the premier bastard sticky language of the world.
You follow Charlie Kirk on X?
The same stuff floats around on Rebel News … Ani O'Brien reposts that locally and Eva McTin.
There was no forced vaccination. The freedom from forced medical treatment by the state was maintained. However, it was balanced against the freedom of other people to use state-run healthcare facilities in the expectation that they would not be exposed to avoidable (possibly fatal) risks. Why do libertarian nutters not understand that freedom is is dynamic network of reciprocated obligations?
Because being part of a dynamic network of reciprocated obligations is way beyond their ability to comprehend – if I may be so bold.
And I'll boldly agree with you Anne.
We (NZ) had this out at the time about the vaccines. Make your choice but be aware of the consequences of any choice you make. Certain people, many of whom ended up at the protest at Parliament, had great difficulty, as you indicate, understanding this then and the passage of time hasn't improved their understanding.
Same as any moral dilemma – I am sure those who opposed conscription made the decision not to go to war in the knowledge that there would be consequences.
It just seems to be recently that we have the notion of consequence-free decisions such as these. I guess another name for it is entitlement. I am not talking about those who physically could not have an injection, allergies, having chemo etc etc. These are the people we were trying to protect by halting the spread so their risk could be lessened.
It became obligatory for anyone who tried to stand -up to the naysayers (remember Rosemary McDonald) to finish up with this proviso because if we didn't, we were accused by said naysayers of "not caring about the immuno compromised" when the opposite was true.
Yes old habits die hard.
One of my friends was immuno compromised at the time and wanted to have an injection/protection and the lengths that her medical people went to to make sure she was able to have protection. She had access to the alternative and had several boosters before we were being urged to have ours. So immuno compromised plus wanting to be protected did not mean a person could not have the injection.
I think some home 'Drs' and conspiracy theorists made out that just because you were immuno compromised or allergic you couldn't be protected.
Now they seem to be rerunning the force/coercion argument instead of the choice argument. I know if I had felt strongly about the vaccination I would have chosen not to and accepted any consequences of my decisions including whether I kept my job.
Wonder if the Greens had ever considered approaching Simon Upton to get back into politics for them?
No point heckling either Luxon or Chippy as they have minimal environmental action credibility.
Should have stood for the Greens and tried to take teal votes from the Nats.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/497384/next-prime-minister-must-lead-emissions-cuts-simon-upton-report
If National get in, Upton should remain exactly where he is.
As the Minister who got the RMA through, and with big EU specialist credentials, when Upton speaks National listen. Believe it or not there are earnest blue-greens in there.
Upton will be particularly important if Act get the Environment portfolio and really start burning regulations.
Statistically, yes. As there were pacifists and those who cared for the plight of the working class Tommy amongst the officers at Passchendaele. And there wouldn’t have been those without the Victorian fashion for younger daughters and 4th sons to have a care for charity and the moral education of the less seemly parts of town.
But action didn’t happen until the Tories were turfed out. And here the Tories are those denialists and shoe draggers of all colours of rosette. Yep, right there if the Nats win. Sure.
I’m living in some kind of retconable world where he could drop in at 10 on the list and perhaps even pick up a teal seat somewhere. And really ramp up the electoral urgency for climate action.
C and Cs climate credentials leave a lot to be desired.
And f- me I hadn’t considered a world where those to the right of groundswell get any input into this…The fire at those ‘protests’ is their literal platform.
Don’t worry Ad, Chippy is a riding into town. It’s far from over just yet. Just watching how much the TPU polls continue to say exactly what the Nats want…
One Voice confronts the reality of the Oz electorate.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-66470376
Meanwhile here in New Zealand, Peters says NZF would withdraw from UNDRIP.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/132885845/carbon-credit-auction-fails-again-depriving-treasury-of-about-900-million
Carbin credit scheme failure,
Nationals ghost money ain't gonna materialize!! For tax cuts.
This is a positive sign for future lowering of NZ emissions. Apparently might make the Treasury forecast off by $900 million but really who cares. The budget typically misses by a few billion within 6 month anyway.
Thanks, Labour.
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I’ve been receiving an escalating stream of panicked emails from people telling me their longtime physician was retiring, was no longer taking their insurance or had gone concierge and would no longer see them unless they ponied up a hefty annual fee. They said they couldn’t find another primary-care doctor who could take them on or who offered a new-patient appointment sooner than months away.
Their individual stories reflect a larger reality: American physicians have been abandoning traditional primary-care practice — internal and family medicine — in large numbers. Those who remain are working fewer hours. And fewer medical students are choosing a field that once attracted some of the best and brightest because of its diagnostic challenges and the emotional gratification of deep relationships with patients.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/05/lack-primary-care-tipping-point/