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Open mike 09/11/2019

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80 comments on “Open mike 09/11/2019 ”

  1. A 1

    Well done!

    MarinaTex is a home compostable material designed as an alternative to single-use plastic films. The material is comprised of waste material from the fishing industry and sustainable algae.

    MarinaTex is one of the winners of the James Dyson Award

  2. A 2

    The family court is another basket case institution that needs immediate reform.

    **Must read **

    Another said she went to court to try to finalise the details of her separation and relied on legal aid to do so.

    That meant a caveat was put on the property so that when it sold the cost of her assistance would be repaid.

    "The first lawyer didn't get anywhere, except after three years the judge put the house on the market so that closed the case, apparently.

    "There's no follow up, there's no enforcement and there's no checking so the applicant has to go back to court and apply again and say 'look the orders have not been carried out. Here's the proof please do something else'. Then they start charging you on that amount which is another $4000…I've been three times, it's up to $18,000 and I still haven't got the property on the market."

    That woman said her former partner was still living in the house and was deflecting interest from agents and potential buyers.

  3. Pat 3

    "There is a gathering consensus on what this requires. It must start by putting the economy on an ecological footing. A comprehensive set of environmental targets and policies are required to drive down carbon emissions, pollution and biodiversity loss: a new Sustainable Economy Act combined with a Green New Deal."

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/08/economy-crisis-capitalists-1945-1979

    Not sure Id call it a gathering consensus but it is an increasingly held view…whether anything is done about it is another story

    • Adrian Thornton 3.1

      …"putting the economy on an ecological footing, green infrastructure such as renewable energy, financial reform,fairer distribution of wealth, including housing etc .."It is no longer enough to let the private sector determine the path of the economy and then add a bit of ameliorative social and environmental policy on afterwards.", Yet it was the this exact same so called liberal press lead with gusto by The Guardian that has worked actively and tirelessly to undermine and destroy the one politician in the UK that given the chance would install these measures, the same goes for Sanders who was (and still is) dealt with in the same way by the Guardian and most other so called liberal press.

      As I have said many times here, the Guardian is more of a threat to the progressive Left than any right wing outlet, they and their neo liberal cohorts are the Trojan Horse amongst us, they are the ruthless defenders of the status quo and have shown time and again that they will defend their liberal project over real progressive change every time…

      If you're interested in reading more about the media treatment of Jeremy Corbyn especially from the Guardian look no further..

      https://theguardian.fivefilters.org/better-media.html

      Yes, Jeremy Corbyn has suffered a bad press, but where's the harm?

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/jul/19/yes-jeremy-corbyn-has-suffered-a-bad-press-but-wheres-the-harm

      Jeremy Corbyn is the most smeared politician in history

      https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/jeremy-corbyn-is-the-most-smeared-politician-in-history/18/07/

      • Stuart Munro. 3.1.1

        Bryce Edwards' selection as NZ reporter will certainly do little to lift the Guardian's reputation.

        • Adrian Thornton 3.1.1.1

          True that, though now I think about it he is a good fit… I like it how when you google him Iprent's bit 'Bryce Edwards: Just another political simpleton' comes up in the first page…

          https://thestandard.org.nz/bryce-edwards-just-another-political-simpleton/

          Of course the real danger is that The Guardian has some really good people writing bit's on it occasionally, so lot's of people don't get what their overall ideological direction is pushing.

          • Stuart Munro. 3.1.1.1.1

            I tend to think the Guardian is a bit like Forrest Gump's chocolates – you never quite know what you're going to get. The same used to be true of RT off subjects of direct regime interest – there was a time when they offered occasional smart alternative perspectives, much as Al Jazeera does from time to time.

            The quality of writing used to reveal an underlying quality of thinking that is rare in political commentary, especially in NZ. Bryce would benefit from a spell in the UK – he has at present little or nothing to offer in terms of political commentary.

            • Adrian Thornton 3.1.1.1.1.1

              I still think RT has a few worthwhile shows, especially the Chris Hedges "On Contact'' show, they also regularly interview many former serious jurno's of the Left who (post Russia Gate/Trump)..Pilger, Taibbi etc, have been completely and utterly ostracized from MSM liberal media…not even allowed on to debate, which just shows how weak the liberal media feel their positions are.

              Plus they often have comment from Slavoj Zizek whom I don't always agree with but always enjoy.

              https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/

              • Stuart Munro.

                You're probably right – but I gave up on them about five years ago, when they moved away from the gravitas they'd been building until then. They floated at that time a lot of tragic nonsense about MH17.

      • Pat 3.1.2

        Jeremy Corbyn and the 'treatment of' not a huge concern as I feel a lot of his problem is of his own making…as to the 'slant' of the Guardian, its considered as I read its content….and would note that even with such much of its contribution is superior to many other MSM outlets…especially re CC

  4. Sacha 4

    BNZ spinning cuts in employee entitlements. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/117272768/six-weeks-of-annual-leave-hides-loss-of-other-benefits-bnz-staff-say

    • Added 10 days to annual leave.
    • Removed 10 days of 'domestic leave' to care for sick family etc.
    • Added extra duties by allowing small(est) business customers to go to ordinary branches for more things.
    • Removed annual sales bonuses for staff, after Aussie regulatory crackdown on those. Also removed bonuses from back-office staff with no customer contact at same time. Kept them for business-banking staff and of course senior managers.
    • Cut annual share package from Australian parent bank.
    • Announced billion dollar quarterly profit the next day.

    "We have concluded the NAB share scheme for BNZ employees. This was a discretionary programme so there was no guarantee of what people might get each year. The renewed package we have announced to our people gives them certainty over a wide range of benefits including increased annual leave, superannuation and parental and family leave."

    A spokesman said on Thursday that the leave change was a benefit to staff.

    "The new annual leave offering gives all our permanent employees flexibility to use 30 days' annual leave how and where they see fit."

    • Wensleydale 4.1

      I read that yesterday and roared with laughter. It's like being stabbed in the kidneys and then told, "No, look, we haven't stabbed you at all. We've simply provided you with increased ventilation in order to keep you cool during summer. Because we care."

      BNZ – we'll shit in your ice cream and tell you it's chocolate sauce.

  5. Ad 5

    A salutary and succinct history of how Labour rising star and Wellington ex-mayor Justin Lester went downhill very fast.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/116683919/the-fading-of-a-rising-star–how-justin-lester-lost-the-wellington-mayoralty

  6. Sacha 6

    I/S on the Nats' explicit intent to gut the Zero(ish) Carbon Act: http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2019/11/climate-change-as-predicted.html

    The government wanted "political consensus" and policy durability. They have failed, and they were always going to. National simply has too strong a denier streak for them to ever accept effective policy on this issue. The only way that is ever going to happen is if the government simply enacts strong policy, makes it reality, and dares them to repeal it – just as they did with the anti-nuclear law.

    It will take a bolder governing coalition than this one.

    • Ad 6.1

      NoRightTurn clearly has no capacity to enjoy the moment.

      Simpson's SOP simply better reflects the Paris Agreement language.

      This is the boldest Green-influenced government in the entire world outside of Iceland. Suck it up cupcake.

      The extreme left need to stop bitching and moaning about lack of perfection in the new law, and start preparing to work with the framework.

      • weka 6.1.1

        I agree there's a problem with not enjoying the moment, not least because people in Shaw's position (eg his staff who worked hard on this) are human and need encouragement not just shit thrown at them.

        We also need the I/Ss to be pushing for more change. Shaw understands this. It's not I/S job to work with the framework, that's for other people.

        • Pat 6.1.1.1

          None of that a reason for delusional spin however

          • weka 6.1.1.1.1

            I think his tone is off, but I can't see the problem with his analysis. I don't know if I agree with it, but it makes sense. Calling it delusional spin is just as hom stuff.

            • Pat 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Assume youre meaning the No Right Turn piece?

              • weka

                More the quote in Sacha's comment from I/S but yes.

                • Sacha

                  I/S was explicit at the beginning of that brief post about the context for him:

                  Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office.

                  Not known for mincing his words.

                  • lprent

                    Yeah, National attitude to constraints on reducing greenhouse gas aren’t known for anything except for trying to nobble them. Short-term thinkers who can’t see past the next election – and who simply shouldn’t be in government because of it.

                    However they will do that to any constraint. It doesn’t matter how tough or otherwise you make it.

                    On the whole I think that trying to get farmers involved to making the kind of effort that industry and construction has made in the last decade is a worthwhile attempt. Sure they have short-term mortgage issues. But there is a decent probability that the longer-term way of thinking of the better farmers can nobble the brainless dumbasses in their community.

                    And that is one of the noisiest community amongst the idiot deniers, and the one that National’s urban denier idiots tend to raise as a shield over their stupidity.

                    To get support for doing something effective, you have to work in the incentives to bring whole emitter communities onboard. To a large extent that happened through much of the non-rural industries in manufacturing and construction as well as a goodly chunk of the public. It is why there is widespread support for crucial measures like alternatives for petroleum fueled vehicles.

                    If the agricultural sector can’t get their idiots under control and come up with something effective – then they have only themselves to blame if the government regulates their laggard arses.

                • Pat

                  K…the delusional spin to which I referred was not the piece but the berating of its observations

                  • weka

                    Do you mean Ad's comment? It would help if you said what you meant.

                    • Pat

                      Not just Ad, although he certainly sprang to mind….there is nothing to be gained from pretending the passing of the Act has removed the ability for its goals to be undermined as amply demonstrated by Nationals position….indeed selling it as more than it is is counterproductive as too many will consider the issue resolved (politically) ….The I/S piece is simply one of many already making that point and if that upsets Shaw or those working on this field then Id suggest theyre in the wrong job

                    • weka []

                      Ad certainly seems to believe that government processes are sufficient, and doesn’t have much of an appreciation for how radicals lead on change. Maybe he thinks the situation isn’t that urgent?

                      I haven’t seen Shaw complaining about criticism. In fact he regularly says that we need to do more, and refers to non-parliamentary activism as a positive force.

                      I think there are two issues here. One is how effective the Act *can be given what it is, and what National may do to it. The other is the human aspect, that all the people who worked on this, and those who are relieved something has happened, want to celebrate.

                      The point about whether the general public will get complacent and not understand the limits of the Act, or the context, is a good one worth looking at.

                    • weka []

                      re getting upset, this area of politics and activism is hard on people. Telling those doing the mahi to get another job if they can’t hack it is not wise when we need all hands to the pump. There’s not a lot to lose from being supportive to those people.

                    • KJT

                      I've heard both James Shaw, and Jacinda Adern telling people like 350 org, and the climate demonstrators, that they need to keep the pressure on Government do more.

                      Obviously to make action on AGW, politically possible.

                    • weka []

                      Yep. Best, next move is for people to mobilise around high visibility climate action, and voting next year. Either or both. So much is going to change re CC over the next 12 months.

      • Robert Guyton 6.1.2

        Agreed.

      • marty mars 6.1.3

        the extreme left, as you call us, is the group forcing change – without that pressure, from the many very worried about the disaster unfolding, nothing would happen. Something is happening and it is not enough and too late but yay for doing something

        • Adrian Thornton 6.1.3.1

          +1, look no further than the Sanders effect on the US primaries, hell he has even brought that word we shalt not speaketh back..the working class.

        • KJT 6.1.3.2

          Funny how "extreme left" is now used for people who are about as "left" as Holyoak.

      • lprent 6.1.4

        …moaning about lack of perfection in the new law, and start preparing to work with the framework.

        More importantly trying to figure out to make sure that National can’t screw this one up like they did with the ETS.

        I never liked the ETS. Even in its original form it had far too obvious loopholes. A straight forward simple tax on generating greenhouse gases would have provided a much simpler harder to evade incentive. More pain short-term, but a faster transition to the kind of productive economy that we need in the future.

        But in the usual display of National’s malevolent incompetence, they came into power, and trapped by their political idiotic promises and posturing, they screwed up any coherence to the ETS. To the point where was largely providing disincentives to reducing greenhouse gases.

        This isn’t hard to see. Our overall per capita emissions have been effectively increasing rather than decreasing. They don’t tend to measure it over time per capita… For instance at stats – look at the land-use contribution as the forestry died out and farting and peeing cows increased.
        https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/new-zealands-greenhouse-gas-emissions

        However the net effect of the changes that National brought in were to diminish reduction effect of land use and increasing the number of vehicles.

        That meant that the higher efficiencies that came through from industry and construction, technical innovation like the car fuel usage, and the changes that people made in their own lifestyles were negated by cows, trucks and cars.

        National’s natural constituency…

        • Sacha 6.1.4.1

          A straight forward simple tax on generating greenhouse gases would have provided a much simpler harder to evade incentive. More pain short-term, but a faster transition to the kind of productive economy that we need in the future.

          Yes. And if the Nats had not sabotaged exactly that in the early 2000s (including one of their MPs driving his tractor up parliament's steps) we would be well on our way now to reaping the worldwide upside of being an early changer.

          Worth recalling these earlier opportunities every time farmers and their enablers whine about needing more time to play their part.

      • OnceWasTim 6.1.5

        "Suck it up cupcake"

        It's almost as if he's a Wild Katipo style "soft cock"

        The hope is that both I/S and Wild Katipo will both be around for a bit longer offering up their contributions

    • Sacha 6.2

      The NZ Super Fund shows us exactly what to expect from governments intent on thwarting climate action under the ZCA.

      The Nats simply stopped all annual deposits within the Cullen framework, costing future generations tens of billions towards pre-funding retirement income costs. https://nzsuperfund.nz/nz-super-fund-explained-purpose-and-mandate/contributions-suspension

      A bolder left-leaning govt freed from kowtowing to deadweight Winston and chums can push our carbon action the other way by accelerating delivery. Snowflakes gonna melt in any case.

      • Ad 6.2.1

        National's proposed amendments look like strengthening the political independence of the Commission, rather than the half-assed model we have being set up.

        Also, under the new law the Climate Commission can review the target under certain conditions. Have a look.

        “These significant changes in circumstances include:
        o global action
        o scientific understanding of climate change
        o New Zealand’s economic or fiscal circumstances
        o New Zealand’s obligations under relevant international agreements o technological developments
        o distributional impacts
        o equity implications (including generational equity).”

        https://www.mfe.govt.nz/sites/default/files/media/Climate%20Change/climate-change-response-zero-carbon-amendment-bill-summary.pdf

        And if you are looking for breaking social contracts, it wasn't the Nats who proposed raising the age of superannuation. It was Labour.

        Policy immutability is possible, but it's rare.

  7. Sacha 7

    Thoughtful activist John Darroch reflects on the Oranga Tamariki review report (click on tweet to see rest of thread):

    • marty mars 7.1

      yep ot is still pretending that based on incomplete and outdated information they were justified in trying to take this baby – this shows how sick the culture from the top is – meanwhile they blame everyone else and pretend to take responsibility – not really a great surprise for anyone who knows how these things work

      • Sacha 7.1.1

        I had forgotten how much effort they put into trying to shut down the story, including lawyers.

  8. millsy 8

    Interesting interview with Egon Krenz over at Jacobin if you have a chance to go over there. I would link, but I'm too lazy. He is a bit obtuse at times but worth a read.

    [lprent: Let me assist your laziness: https://jacobinmag.com/2019/11/east-germany-egon-krenz-berlin-wall ]

  9. Adrian Thornton 9

    Breaking News

    Lula is free. He walked out of Sergio Moro's prison today, where he spent almost 2 years as a result of corrupted process conducted by a corrupt judge (now Bolsonaro's Minister of Justice and Public Security) and corrupt prosecutors.

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1192925532897398786?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

  10. Adrian Thornton 10

    Yeh I don't know about that, but it does help to expose the far right (as it is needed) as being unhinged and often violent when they are losing or under pressure, something to keep in mind and remember if Corbyn or Sanders do any good in their respective elections.

  11. marty mars 11

    Not going to end well imo

    I hate religious intolerance from any religion or belief system. If your deity wants you to kill people then YOU are the problem.

    India’s supreme court is expected to make a historic ruling on Saturday over the highly disputed religious site of Ayodhya, which is claimed by Hindus and Muslims.

    The site has been one of the country’s most controversial religious grounds since the Babri mosque, which had been standing since the 16th century, was reduced to rubble by Hindu fundamentalists during a 1992 riot in which more than 2,000 people died.

    …Saturday’s ruling by the supreme court, who are seen as favourable to the Modi government agenda, is expected to rule on the side of the Hindu case.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/08/india-tense-before-ayodhya-ruling-holy-site-muslims-hindus

  12. joe90 12

    tRump campaign is using donation money to buy Jr's book in bulk to drive up sales, adding Jr's signature and flogging them to MAGA for a minimum $50 donation.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5729711/republican-sales-donald-trump-jr-new-book/

  13. It's not wasting time and energy, it's called doing your job, and when it appears as cut and dried as this, failing to do so would be complicit.

  14. marty mars 14

    A really good article imo. The more I read, the more I thought and the more I thought about this, the more I went, yeah wtf?

    As for the rest of us, we shouldn’t reserve our outrage for the most extreme versions of virginity-obsessed misogyny. We should recognize that the very concept of virginity is sexist. We should reject it, and put in its place an embrace of sex as natural, human, pleasurable, and valuable – a relationship to be entered into consensually, sure, but also joyfully and desirously. Yes, let’s do away with abusive, invasive, misogynistic virginity tests. But if we want to fight misogyny, we need to reject virginity itself, too.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/08/ti-hymen-virginity-daughter

  15. Sacha 15

    Chloe Swarbrick contextualises her latest moment in the spotlight. https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2019/nov/09/my-ok-boomer-comment-in-parliament-symbolised-exhaustion-of-multiple-generations

    Baby boomers had stand-up. Gen X got the Netflix specials. Millennials made memes, and the Zoomers are reinventing humour altogether with the likes of TikTok.

    Each generation has inspected the world around us, declared what wasn’t good enough, employed cultural change through media, education, collective action and a few hard-hitting jokes in order to move the goalposts on what is politically possible.

    My “OK boomer” comment in parliament was off-the-cuff, albeit symbolic of the collective exhaustion of multiple generations set to inherit ever-amplifying problems in an ever-diminishing window of time.

  16. Andre 16

    Impeachment timing – Mitch McTurtle might want to drag out the impeachment trial in the Senate for as long as possible to fuck with the Dem primary. Because all the current senators would need to be stuck in Washington sitting through the trial, rather than being out campaigning.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/11/06/776182132/a-disaster-impeachment-could-sideline-senators-in-2020-presidential-campaign

  17. Andre 17

    Listen to this hostage video put out by Jeff Sessions and see if you can work out what future action he's announcing.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-hostage-video_n_5dc50530e4b02bf5793d76a5

  18. joe90 18

    It's not the May Day, parade you dopey prick.

    It's the Victory Day parade, aka show off the tanks and shit day, commemorating the Red Army taking Berlin on 9/5/45.

    • Andre 18.1

      He just wants a few more moments in his happy place – a shitload of pompous spectacle in the midst of a crowd of his supporters.

  19. Agora 19

    Why no mention of Sir Peter Jacksons role in Justin Lesters downfall?

    It was close. Foster owes Jackson. What is the squeeze?

  20. Stuart Munro. 20

    Opportunity knocks for the Gnats to win the next election – bit of tomato sauce & they'll be fine.

  21. Eco maori 21

    Kia Ora 1 News

    The thing is no one sends Hereford calfs on the Bobby calf calf truck anyway.

    That's is cool getting some comunity workers to he with the clean up of Te Tapu Teranga Marae clean up after the ahi they had.

    Angela made a good speech for this year's celebration of the Berlin Wall coming down.

    Awsome that Charlie is getting help to find his Mama s grave on Manawai Island from Kiwis. All our birds of Aotearoa are amazing and beautiful.

    Ka kite Ano

  22. Eco maori 22

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News.

    Awsome that Chailey has had help from Kiwis to find his Mamas grave

    Tangata Whenua are at the bottom of the list of Luntheg cancer treatment ladder.

    Ka pai to the up grade to Manahurehure Marae.

    That lady is just grand standing she is pro national this is the first time Oranga Tamariki CYPS has admitted under Our Labour lead CoalitionGGovernment fault all the other just denied it.

    Congratulations to The Gay Tangata Whenua Wahine who won the Opotiki Mayor this gives me a sore face.

    Ka kite Ano.

  23. Eco maori 23

    Sorry about the editing someone is stuffing with my devices

  24. Eco maori 24

    Kia Ora 1 News.

    Yes Sports is good for the people.

    It looks like boris has been under arm bowling.

    Slashing the legal aid budget and making it near impossible to get legal aid took the legal right away from the common person to be treated fairly from the system or other people or organisations.

    The british tabloids are a Wolf Pack control by you know who.

    Ka kite Ano

  25. Eco maori 25

    The reality is oil and coal carbon is what we have to scrap and focus on lowering our use of the crap take the focus off our farmers come on

    Climate change

    Climate change deniers’ new battle front attacked

    ‘Pernicious’ campaign is unfair on well-meaning people who want to help – expert

    The battle between climate change deniers and the environment movement has entered a new, pernicious phase. That is the stark warning of one of the world’s leading climate experts, Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University.

    Mann told the Observer that although flat rejection of global warming was becoming increasingly hard to maintain in the face of mounting evidence, this did not mean climate change deniers were giving up the fight.

    “First of all, there is an attempt being made by them to deflect attention away from finding policy solutions to global warming towards promoting individual behaviour changes that affect people’s diets, travel choices and other personal behaviour,” said Mann. “This is a deflection campaign and a lot of well-meaning people have been taken in by it.”

    Mann stressed that individual actions – (eating less meat or avoiding air travel) – were important in the battle against global warming. However, they should be seen as additional ways to combat global warming rather than as a substitute for policy reform.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2019/nov/09/doomism-new-tactic-fossil-fuel-lobby

  26. Eco maori 26

    I thank the New leaders of Aotearoa biggest Company Fonterra for lowering or dropping sugar our of their Papatuanuku class products.

    People don't miss the sugar Fonterra's stopped adding to drinks and yoghurts

    Consumers haven't noticed some of the added sugar has been removed from Fonterra's Primo, CalciYum and Fresh & Fruity yoghurts.

    In fact, testing at Colmar Brunton's "sensory facility" indicated people found them equally tasty, or tastier, than higher sugar yoghurts.

    The removal of some of the added sugar from the recipes for Fonterra's big-name consumer products is part of a strategy to reposition Fonterra as a sustainable enterprise

    The move, which will mean around 600 tonnes of added sugar is removed from the collective Kiwi diet a year, is also a recognition that sugar was becoming a major concern for families.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/117148489/people-dont-miss-the-sugar-fonterras-stopped-adding-to-drinks-and-yoghurts#comments

  27. Eco maori 27

    You see oil drilling makes a bigger mess than just Cow farts.

    Indigenous Mapuche pay high price for Argentina's fracking dream

    Community tell of devastating environmental impact on land where their animals grazed

    Albino Campo Maripe in front of a burning well in Neuquén province, Argentina.

    Albino Campo Maripe in front of a burning well in Neuquén province, Argentina. Photograph: Uki Goni/The Guardian

    The roar of the burning gas well could be heard almost a mile and a half away, from atop the high plateau where Albino Campo Maripe stood, looking down at the orange flames lapping the earth in the distance.

    When he was a child, the 60-year-old Mapuche chief used to ride there bareback. Those days are gone for ever. The once-pristine landscape is now dotted with fracking wells and the white patches of land cleared for even more

    Fracking accidents happen regularly in Vaca Muerta (Dead Cow in Spanish), one of the world’s largest shale oil and gas reservoirs. In 2018 alone, there were an estimated 934 incidents at 95 wells

    A spokesman said: “Their houses and cultural or productive activities are several kilometres away from YPF and Chevron’s operations. Nevertheless, the community still claims they should have rights on the lands where YPF and Chevron operate.”

    But Campo Maripe claims the problem is not seepage from below, but from above. “They drilled about 400 wells contaminating everything. They dug pits next to the wells where they dumped the waste without any treatment and threw limestone on it to cover it up. We lost our best land.

    “One of our sisters and her husband died of cancer in 2017,” says Mabel. “The fracking has affected our bones, which become decalcified. I had to have a titanium spine implant; another sister also needs one. Albino had an operation on his arm because of bone loss.”

    Both siblings claim doctors have privately told them the cause is contamination from the wells. “They are scared to talk,” says Mabel. She says one worried doctor asked her: “Are you recording me?”

    “Last year, the grandson of another sister was born with his intestines outside his body. They had to operate [on] him to put them in,” says Mabel.

    “As Mapuches, we’re not fighting for just ourselves or our community,” says Albino Campo Maripe. “We want our children and grandchildren to know that we fought for something that belongs to everyone. Water is life. Every plant is life. The greed of governments is killing the world. The world is not going to end. We are going to end, because we’re killing ourselves.”

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/14/indigenous-mapuche-argentina-fracking-communities

  28. Eco maori 28

    Here how Capitalism really works read and learn.

    Billionaires are wailing that wealth tax proposals by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are attacks on free-market capitalism.

    Michael Bloomberg: billionaire eyes centre lane in Democratic presidential race

    Read more

    Warren “vilifies successful people”, says Jamie Dimon, chief executive of JPMorgan Chase.

    Rubbish. There are basically only five ways to accumulate a billion dollars, and none of them has to do with being successful in a genuinely free market.

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    [big chunk of copied text removed – weka]

  29. Eco maori 29

    Ha I can't even edit my post with the way this is setup

  30. Eco maori 31

    All combustion engines need to be replaced with Electric motors when they need renewing.

    Electric ferry under construction for Wellington will be first in Southern Hemisphere

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/403004/electric-ferry-under-construction-for-wellington-will-be-first-in-southern-hemisphere

  31. Eco maori 32

    This makes me happy that not so many of our Whanau are going to be wasting away in Te Hinaki.

    The police have set an ambitious new goal to reduce the rate of re-offending among Māori by 25 percent in the next five years.

    Police Commissioner Mike Bush admitted bias existed in the police force.

    "Our data tells us that there is a bias in policing, and we've got to remove that bias, so where we police and how we police," he said.

    "We've got to accept that there is a bias in policing and only by acknowledging and removing that bias will we make a difference at that's a key difference for all of us

    "We are five percent into that target, we're really determined to get to that 25 but it takes a lot of moving parts to come to together

    Iwi leader Rahui Papa of Waikato-Tainui was at the launch and said he was optimistic a day would come soon when Māori were no longer pulled over in a car simply because police were suspicious they had done something wrong

    This is the second strategy police have launched to improve their relationship with Māori.

    Wally Haumaha said the last one – set up in 2012 – achieved a 35 percent drop in the number of prosecutions in the youth court.

    Ka kite Ano link below.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/402709/police-launch-strategy-to-reduce-maori-re-offending-by-25-percent

  32. Eco maori 33

    Kia Ora 1 News.

    Of course it was politically motivation to release Winston name. About the same time another person name was being released to O what A coincidence that it just happens to be the same time as the New Zealand Elections YEA RIGHT.

    I thought that the way to establish native trees is to plant them amongst a canopy of old trees.

    Ka kite Ano

  33. Eco maori 34

    Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News.

    I don't think that the trees need to be cut down to establish native trees just plant them amongst the established tree from my research the young natives trees are prone to frost

    Cool that the research on Maui Dolphins is showing how far there rangs is.

    We lost A lot of great leaders in those wars enough said

    Ka kite Ano

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