There's a binary switch in the mind, that shifts us between imaginal and real. Our imagination helps us survive by creating possible paths to the future, so we can optimise our personal worlds via our choices.
This psychological process works when we do so via both/and logic: grounding ourselves in the real world but simultaneously investing energy in choices and actions and activities intended to catalyse the world we want.
Thus the alchemy of progress. Problems emerge when co-creating the desired future world with others. Typical is the common one in which folks assume common ground instead of identifying it and agreeing to it. Tacit psychology then takes over and everyone proceeds on the basis of popular delusions.
With sub-cultures, the belief system of the group forms a trap for young (or naive) players. Lotsa folks aren't good at doing reality checks. Critical thinking is now taught at universities, but for those not born with the innate ability to do it as part of normal life, it remains a minority trend.
So the binary switch shifts many from conventional co-created reality (mandated by convention, recycled by msm) into the unconventional co-created reality of the sub-culture. True believers then operate as social justice warriors in an attempt to expose the falsity of the mainstreamers. God is on Billy TK's side, he believes. As the instrument of god's will, his mission is to save the poor deluded Nat/Lab voters.
A mate and I were korero about Covid and 'conspiracies'.
The observation he made was that in the past (20 yrs ago), the folk enquiring along conspiracy lines, had to work hard and seek out info, plus, they tended to be on the margins of society.
Nowadays, dubious information is logarithmically fed to the mainstream, and they are losing their shit. They are not used to being on the outer.
On conspiracy, it was a relatively quiet anniversary of 12/9.
Nowadays, dubious information is logarithmically fed to the mainstream
A key point, I suspect. Enabled by multiculturalism – which was a healthy antidote to mainstream monoculture when it started.
Via postmodernism, diversity of views became paradigmatic. Tolerance of the mentally ill (under the guise of pretending they can be normalised) gives us Trump.
So competing world-views can be rationalised as the sensible product of a caring, tolerant, all-inclusive civilisation. Freedom of choice, caveat emptor. In ancient Rome, tolerance of foreign religions became the norm for centuries until christianity imposed monoculture.
In the nexus of faith, science, and politics, we mustn't lose sight of the fact that the reality of covid-19 is more evident to the specialists who study it than anyone else. Everyone else just has faith that the advice they provide to govt is sensible. We have faith in the msm when it tells us about those infected as a secondary consequence.
We don't believe Bill Gates is using 5G with the UN mandate to make them sick. Our faith in govt decision-making derives from our faith in the scientists whose collective judgments drive public health policy. Seems logical, but it's faith-based, just like Billy's faith in god's will.
Equating public trust in the collective judgement of experienced expert scientists re the Covid-19 pandemic, with faith in Billy TK's intepretation of God's will, may be a stretch.
I'm comfortable with the opinions of practitioners of faith-based movements in matters of faith – heck, the comparatively new religion/cult of Scientology was manufactured in short order by one creative mind – but when faith-based judgements, and consequent actions, are in conflict with science-based precautionary recommendations in matters of public health, then I'd hope that common sense would prevail, eventually.
Oh, headbanging stuff has arrived from the USA to give us the full smorgasbord of their psycho-logic.
The song for today: Daddy started out in San Francisco,
Tootin’ on his trumpet loud and mean.
Suddenly a voice said, “Go forth, Daddy.
Spread the picture on a wider screen.”
And the voice said, “Daddy, there’s a million pigeons
Ready to be hooked on new religions.
Hit the road, Daddy. Leave your common-law wife.
Spread the religion of the rhythm of life.”
I draw the line when it comes to misinformation which can harm others.
When you have a choice to avoid not being harmed by the view of a conspiracy theorist they can do and think what they want. The problem with Covid – 19 is the community spread and a person would need to put their self on home detention to avoid it.
So who is being restricted the most when it comes to misinformation about the transmission of Covid – 19?
Dennis; I was trialling an idea with friends over the weekend; perhaps you'd like to masticate this too: if every human had the power to make real their every imaginary scenario, on a global scale and could repeat and adjust their creation endlessly and instantly, what would happen (take out irreversible chaos or non-existence etc.). Would there be a settling-out to a world that reflects the true human spirit? Would the choices and result reflect the deep subconscious of the human race? Would we reach a steady-state, or be plunged into a flickering super-8 movie where no frame connects with any other?
One friend suggested, "Isn't what you propose what we have now"?
But I like the discourse you co-created. What chaos theory told us about nature is that patterns of order emerge naturally (in an apparently chaotic system). So, since a social system operates similarly to an ecosystem, monocultural trends will persist awhile when produced as a result of system bifurcation, then evaporate or subside into a context of multiculturalism after that.
Would we reach a steady-state, or be plunged into a flickering super-8 movie where no frame connects with any other?
Both/and applies. Some will feel that the flicker is too much, and will gravitate toward the islands of stability. Those islands will grow in response. Firefly humans will dance amidst the flicker. Butterfly humans will flit between islands. You get the picture, eh? Biodiversity.
Human fish will experience fluid cultural chaos as an ocean. Surfers will ride the surface of that. In astrology, ocean is represented by the Pisces archetype (mutable water, fixed water is pond or lake, cardinal water is rain, a spring or run-off originating stream or river). Kinetic energy and potential energy are the physics binary: discovering the emergence of subatomic particles into the physical universe a century ago caused theoretical physicists to postulate a realm of potential energy, with forms and fields also emergent from that. Fields are the tertiary category in physics that are real inasmuch as they are detectable, but we can't sense them so we use the imaginal to describe them. How forms arise in nature remains too hard!
or the truth could be a lot simpler. someone with a reputation of non-payment of fellow musicians(goes down very badly in nz small music scene) who spent way too much time watching online rubbish during lockdown. needs to find another way of self promotion because he has burnt too many bridges in the music scene. as for god being on billys side ,think bob dylan (a LOT closer to god than billy ever will be)says it best in "with god on our side"
Thanks for the identification RG. Can see it better now.
I did not know who it was but had more or less settled on David Seymour except I thought there was something wrong with the hair. Some of the point DS comes out with also fit.
Is this the same Will Ryan from the nutter 'Right Minds' group? I think so. Dangerous people who, along with the likes of BFD (Whaleoil) model themselves on US extremist conspiracy theorists.
If it is, then it is likely the reason for refusing to wear the mask is not so much to do with "freedom" but more to do with gaining media exposure, and being able to credibly complain about personal persecution.
Wonder if he's copped a lifetime ban from Fullers? Poster in the terminal and his fellow passengers will rat him out in a heartbeat. Guess he is now stuck some where.
Alert levels . What is the point about different regional levels when people can simply change levels by travelling?
We have some of the people who went to the demo in Auckland also showing up at meetings in Southland if I have understood correctly ( no idea as to the actual time Line) But if we had trapped Auckland in Auckland then the rest of us could be at level 1.
Also seen stuff with a story from Baker about purpose built facilities at Ohakea Read the idea here first?
I find it illogical too that people in the two areas where Covid is can travel out of those areas at whim. I do think some containment boundaries are required , be it regional or by suburb , until those areas are cleared.
I understand the concern about mixed levels without internal borders, but I think the approach is valid.
Firstly, placing a hermetic seal around Auckland would be counterproductive: it will piss people off even more, and they'll walk out through forests if need be. Even the Berlin Wall wasn't 100%.
Secondly, infection control is about probabilities rather than perfection. There are diminishing returns on efforts in that regard, even if we could ensure 100% compliance. We don't ask people to wear full hazmat suits to go to the shops, even if theoretically that would stop the infections 100%. Masks lower transmission, cheaply, for little effort and training (and if people wear their masks on top of their heads or under their nose, they won't be able to operate a full environment suit).
So if a few Aucklanders leave under level 2.5, what are the odds of them spreading an infection? What are the odds of that not getting detected early in other regions? Spacing in planes lowers those odds even more. A specific aucklander being detected to having an infection on a given day is currently in the region of a million to one.
Third, the levels system is still proportional to the risk presented by specific infection scenarios. Under L4 everyone was locked down. Under L2-3 we're cautious, but not actually too worried that there are clusters or cases we haven't identified as possible contacts. But we still slow stuff down and keep distancing, because if it has gotten out these measures will slow it down.
I like the idea of bespoke isolation facilities, but I'd actually go so far as to suggest that the government should develop some dual-purpose facilities: hotels/conference venues for even a few decades, but can be adapted into an isolation facility or a refugee/disaster processing centre as and when needed. As in, from the design stage up it can operate as one or the other or even both but separately, with neither group crossing paths at any stage.
Thanks for those sound words McFlock. It's practical to sit down and think out the whole situation. We need to understand and not just get irritated with the Why don’t we’s, why can't we's?
Was out in the Albany shopping precinct (mall and adjoining blocks of shops) on Saturday morning and was so impressed with the very high turnout of mask wearers and shoppers using the tracing ap. All ages and ethnicities . I would have put it at about 85%. It was great to see. Then today I was at Glenfield mall for a short visit and the complete opposite was happening. My hubby and myself commented at how many people were wandering around completely mask free. Again all sorts of people and ages. I thought how strange. What it is it that makes some areas compliant and some so non-compliant. Even using the ap was haphazard as I was waiting for the other half (as you do) to finish off what he was doing and was adjacent to the ap and observed people wandering into the mall and not using the ap.
On another subject. I know this is pretty full on but I can see how people get confused with the PM's announcements. Why is it that people coming into the country whether they are showing symptoms or not have to isolate and be tested over two weeks before going on their way. Then on the other hand the Greater Auckland area has clusters of infection being monitored and in some cases in managed isolation yet we allow our region to travel wherever they like all over NZ taking the bug with them to other areas.
I understand that commerce has to carry on, goods have to be carried up north and down south but the logic isn't there for me. Surely we the Auckland region needs to be isolated from the rest of the country , get on top of the virus and then allow free travel. Simplistic I know but I am not a logistics wonk just a curious person . Meanwhile the planes are filling up with us lot up here and going to the ski fields and wherever. No wonder the provinces get sick of us!!
The difference in probability of catching Covid from an Aucklander in or outside of Auckland is negligible to zero This targeting of Aucklanders is bs by a small number of small brain provincial hicks
“Modelling done for the Ministry of Health continues to suggest around a 25 percent chance of cases moving outside of the Auckland region. So while the cases are currently in Auckland, with inter-regional travel open there remains a risk of spreading the virus to the rest of the country.”
I am not a small brained provincial hick thank you. This is our shit up here and for the sake of the rest of the country we shouldn't be allowed to take this shit out of town.
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I apply first principles here. Nothing comes or will come of depriving people of their land no matter how laudable the proposals by others for the future are. The Maori owners have been deprived of their ownership, and have been for many many years since the land was taken for defence purposes without compensation.
The land should be returned to the Maori owners forthwith. If the Maori owners wish to negotiate for parts to be used as a commercial entity then so be it. Maori owners have seen large chunks of this land used for private housing and this is so far away from a defence use or even a Govt use as to be a misuse of power by the current occupiers, in my view.
It was a syndicate of the users of the runways, developers etc. The Todd group owned it for many years then sold to (now) The Templeton group now owns.
Land was Maori owned until the land was taken for Emergency use/defence purposes during WW2. Despite no longer being required for defence purposes or any other public works purpose( the PW Act has strict parameters) the land has never been handed back to Maori. To me all talk of future uses, that take the future use of the land further and further away from the use it was taken for should be put on the back burner.
This is one of my 'bee in bonnet' & hot button issues.
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With a suite of Government income support packages available, Minister for Social Development and Employment Carmel Sepuloni is encouraging people, and businesses, connected to the recent Auckland COVID-19 cases to check the Work and Income website if they’ve been impacted by the need to self-isolate. “If you are required to ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has expressed her condolences at the passing of long-serving former Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea, Grand Chief Sir Michael Somare. “Our thoughts are with Lady Veronica Somare and family, Prime Minister James Marape and the people of Papua New Guinea during this time of great ...
The Government is backing a new project to use drone technology to transform our understanding and protection of the Māui dolphin, Aotearoa’s most endangered dolphin. “The project is just one part of the Government’s plan to save the Māui dolphin. We are committed to protecting this treasure,” Oceans and Fisheries ...
Major water reform has taken a step closer with the appointment of the inaugural board of the Taumata Arowai water services regulator, Hon Nanaia Mahuta says. Former Director General of Health and respected public health specialist Dame Karen Poutasi will chair the inaugural board of Crown agency Taumata Arowai. “Dame ...
New funding announced by Conservation Minister Kiri Allan today will provide work and help protect the unique values of Northland’s Te Ārai Nature Reserve for future generations. Te Ārai is culturally important to Te Aupōuri as the last resting place of the spirits before they depart to Te Rerenga Wairua. ...
Today the Government has taken a key step to support Pacific people to becoming Community Housing providers, says the Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio. “This will be great news for Pacific communities with the decision to provide Pacific Financial Capability Grant funding and a tender process to ...
Conservation Minister Kiri Allan is encouraging New Zealanders to have their say on a proposed marine mammal sanctuary to address the rapid decline of bottlenose dolphins in Te Pēwhairangi, the Bay of Islands. The proposal, developed jointly with Ngā Hapū o te Pēwhairangi, would protect all marine mammals of the ...
Attorney-General David Parker today announced the appointment of three new District Court Judges. Two of the appointees will take up their roles on 1 April, replacing sitting Judges who have reached retirement age. Kirsten Lummis, lawyer of Auckland has been appointed as a District Court Judge with jury jurisdiction to ...
Government announces list of life-shortening conditions guaranteeing early KiwiSaver access The Government changed the KiwiSaver rules in 2019 so people with life-shortening congenital conditions can withdraw their savings early The four conditions guaranteed early access are – down syndrome, cerebral palsy, Huntington’s disease and fetal alcohol spectrum disorder An alternative ...
The Reserve Bank is now required to consider the impact on housing when making monetary and financial policy decisions, Grant Robertson announced today. Changes have been made to the Bank’s Monetary Policy Committee’s remit requiring it to take into account government policy relating to more sustainable house prices, while working ...
The Labour Government will invest $6 million for 70 additional adult cochlear implants this year to significantly reduce the historical waitlist, Health Minister Andrew Little says. “Cochlear implants are life changing for kiwis who suffer from severe hearing loss. As well as improving an individual’s hearing, they open doors to ...
The Local Electoral (Māori Wards and Māori Constituencies) Amendment Bill passed its third reading today and will become law, Minister of Local Government Hon Nanaia Mahuta says. “This is a significant step forward for Māori representation in local government. We know how important it is to have diversity around ...
The Government has added 1,000 more transitional housing places as promised under the Aotearoa New Zealand Homelessness Action Plan (HAP), launched one year ago. Minister of Housing Megan Woods says the milestone supports the Government’s priority to ensure every New Zealander has warm, dry, secure housing. “Transitional housing provides people ...
A second batch of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines arrived safely yesterday at Auckland International Airport, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says. “This shipment contained about 76,000 doses, and follows our first shipment of 60,000 doses that arrived last week. We expect further shipments of vaccine over the coming weeks,” Chris Hipkins said. ...
The Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni has today announced $18 million to support creative spaces. Creative spaces are places in the community where people with mental health needs, disabled people, and those looking for social connection, are welcomed and supported to practice and participate in the arts ...
Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Andrew Little today welcomed Moriori to Parliament to witness the first reading of the Moriori Claims Settlement Bill. “This bill is the culmination of years of dedication and hard work from all the parties involved. “I am delighted to reach this significant milestone today,” Andrew ...
22,400 fewer children experiencing material hardship 45,400 fewer children in low income households on after-housing costs measure After-housing costs target achieved a year ahead of schedule Government action has seen child poverty reduce against all nine official measures compared to the baseline year, Prime Minister and Minister for Child Poverty ...
It’s time to recognise the outstanding work early learning services, kōhanga reo, schools and kura do to support children and young people to succeed, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins says. The 2021 Prime Minister’s Education Excellence Awards are now open through until April 16. “The past year has reminded us ...
Three new Jobs for Nature projects will help nature thrive in the Bay of Plenty and keep local people in work says Conservation Minister Kiri Allan. “Up to 30 people will be employed in the projects, which are aimed at boosting local conservation efforts, enhancing some of the region’s most ...
The Government has accepted all of the Holidays Act Taskforce’s recommended changes, which will provide certainty to employers and help employees receive their leave entitlements, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood announced today. Michael Wood said the Government established the Holidays Act Taskforce to help address challenges with the ...
The Government’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic and faster than expected economic recovery has been acknowledged in today’s credit rating upgrade. Credit ratings agency Standard & Poor’s (S&P) today raised New Zealand’s local currency credit rating to AAA with a stable outlook. This follows Fitch reaffirming its AA+ rating last ...
Tena koutou e nga Maata Waka Ngai Tuahuriri, Ngai Tahu whanui, Tena koutou. Nau mai whakatau mai ki tenei ra maumahara i te Ru Whenua Apiti hono tatai hono, Te hunga mate ki te hunga mate Apiti hono tatai hono, Te hunga ora ki te hunga ora Tena koutou, Tena ...
The Minister of Justice has reaffirmed the Government’s urgent commitment, as stated in its 2020 Election Manifesto, to ban conversion practices in New Zealand by this time next year. “The Government has work underway to develop policy which will bring legislation to Parliament by the middle of this year and ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage and Social Development Hon Carmel Sepuloni today launched a new Creative Careers Service, which is expected to support up to 1,000 creatives, across three regions over the next two years. The new service builds on the most successful aspects of the former Pathways to ...
Overseas consumers eager for natural products in the face of the COVID-19 pandemic have helped boost honey export revenue by 20 percent to $425 million in the year to June 30, 2020, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor says. “The results from the latest Ministry for Primary Industries’ 2020 Apiculture Monitoring ...
Thanks to more than $10-million in new services from the Government, more rangatahi will be able to access mental health and addiction support in their community. Minister of Health Andrew Little made the announcement today while visiting Odyssey House Christchurch and acknowledged that significant events like the devastating earthquakes ten ...
Two month automatic visitor visa extension for most visitor visa holders Temporary waiver of time spent in New Zealand rule for visitor stays Visitor visa holders will be able to stay in New Zealand a little longer as the Government eases restrictions for those still here, the Minister of Immigration ...
The Tourism and Conservation Ministers say today’s report by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment (PCE) adds to calls to overhaul the tourism model that existed prior to COVID19. “The PCE tourism report joins a chorus of analysis which has established that previous settings, which prioritised volume over value, are ...
The Government is providing certainty for the dietary supplements industry as we work to overhaul the rules governing the products, Minister for Food Safety Dr Ayesha Verrall said. Dietary supplements are health and wellness products taken orally to supplement a traditional diet. Some examples include vitamin and mineral supplements, echinacea, ...
The Government is joining the Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime (the Budapest Convention), Justice Minister Kris Faafoi and Minister for the Digital Economy and Communications Dr David Clark announced today. The decision progresses a recommendation by the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Christchurch terror attack to accede to ...
Attorney-General David Parker announced today that an appointment round for Queen’s Counsel will take place in 2021. Appointments of Queen’s Counsel are made by the Governor-General on the recommendation of the Attorney-General and with the concurrence of the Chief Justice. The Governor-General retains the discretion to appoint Queen’s Counsel in ...
The new Resurgence Support Payment passed by Parliament this week will be available to eligible businesses now that Auckland will be in Alert Level 2 until Monday. “Our careful management of the Government accounts means we have money aside for situations like this. We stand ready to share the burden ...
A dry run of the end-to-end process shows New Zealand’s COVID-19 vaccination programme is ready to roll from Saturday, when the first border workers will receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says. “The trial run took place in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch yesterday afternoon, ahead of the ...
From June this year, all primary, intermediate, secondary school and kura students will have access to free period products, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Associate Education Minister Jan Tinetti announced today. The announcement follows a successful Access to Period Products pilot programme, which has been running since Term 3 last ...
The latest update shows the Government’s books are again in better shape than forecast, meaning New Zealand is still in a strong position to respond to any COVID-19 resurgence. The Crown Accounts for the six months to the end of December were better than forecast in the Half-year Economic and ...
The Department of Conservation’s (DOC) new Heritage and Visitor Strategy is fully focused on protecting and enhancing the value of New Zealand’s natural, cultural and historic heritage, while also promoting a sustainable environmental experience, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says. “It has been a quarter of a century since DOC first developed ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Defence Minister Peeni Henare have announced that New Zealand will conclude its deployment of the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) to Afghanistan by May 2021. “After 20 years of a NZDF presence in Afghanistan, it is now time to conclude ...
Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. This is a special time in our country. A little over a week ago, it was the anniversary of the signature by Māori and the British Crown of Te Tiriti O Waitangi (the Treaty of Waitangi), a founding document in ...
The Government is in contact with relevant authorities in Turkey following the arrest of a former Australian and New Zealand dual citizen there, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “Contingency planning for the potential return of any New Zealander who may have been in the conflict zone has been underway for ...
Report by Dr David Robie – Café Pacific. – Author Margaret Mills speaking at the launch of The Nine Lives of Kitty K at Waiheke Library today. IMAGE: David Robie Introduction for the book launch of The Nine ...
Analysis: One new case was enough to force Auckland back into lockdown less than a week after it returned to Level 1. Marc Daalder explains why New Zealand has dealt with nearly a dozen border failures and minor community outbreaks of Covid-19. Only a couple have resulted in an alert ...
Auckland returns to level three lockdown for seven days as of 6am Sunday February 28, with the rest of the country going to level two. Here’s what the experts are saying, via the Science Media Centre.Shaun HendyWith new cases detected in the family of a Papatoetoe High School student, Auckland ...
A new community case in Auckland today has prompted the announcement that the city is to return to alert level three, and the rest of the country level two, from 6am on Sunday. Here’s the latest.What’s happening?Auckland is to move to alert level three from 6am on Sunday, February 28. ...
As of 6am on Sunday February 28, Auckland moves to level three, with the rest of the country going to level two, for seven days. For the latest official advice see here.What happened?A new case, known as “case M”, is a sibling of a student at Papatoetoe High School, which is ...
The discovery of a new community case that can't be definitively linked to existing cases has forced Auckland back to Level 3, Marc Daalder reports Auckland is returning to Level 3 for seven days and the rest of New Zealand will escalate to Level 2 for the same period from ...
In deciding to move Auckland out of lockdown, Jacinda Ardern has decided to take on more risk than she might have previously, Marc Daalder writes New Zealand's approach to the pandemic so far has been a conservative, risk-averse one. Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson has previously spelled out the ideology of ...
Businesses with workers needing to cross the Alert Level boundary near Auckland will need evidence of permitted activity or an exemption. Travel documents that were issued earlier this month remain valid. Any business with workers that have lost ...
Another cased of COVID-19 in the community was not the news anyone wanted to hear on a Saturday evening, Mayor Goff said tonight. “I understand Aucklanders’ frustration at having to return to Level 3 lockdown, with the disruption it causes to everyone’s ...
Last weekend at the sun-drenched soundshell in the Botanic Gardens, Wellington, The Spinoff joined Verb Wellington to present the Garden Party and it was heaps of fun.Photography by Rebecca McMillan On February 20 and 21, a brand new summer festival sprung into life. Held at Wellington Botanic Gardens ki Paekākā, The ...
Our Beehive Bulletin … With the Maori wards issue taken care of through legislation rushed egregiously into law under urgency, control of the country’s water supply is high on the agenda for action by champions of the treaty “partnership”. Ngāti Kahungunu and Ngāi Tahu have joined forces in proceedings against ...
What’s the best way to get adults reading? Get them reading when they’re children – and there’s no better place to start than the Unity Children’s Bestseller Chart.AUCKLAND1 Sapiens: A Graphic History, Volume 1, The Birth of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari and David Vandermeulen, and illustrator Daniel Casanave (Jonathon ...
"The lab assistants developed various amphetamine habits, Linda in HR started sleeping with her co-workers’ wives, a few of the guys from down in IT went undercover as recruits in local criminal organisations and were instantly murdered": a vision from Wellington writer Jordan Hamel There are nine different incident reports, ...
Rebecca Wadey used to love the wellness industry. Now she doesn’t know who to trust.This story was first published on Ensemble. I love a bit of woo woo.As a former wellbeing editor, I’ve interviewed countless experts on how to achieve a work-life balance and live a life of optimal energy. I’ve ...
What do you get if you mix a little bit of Persona with a little bit of Musou? A whole lot of fun.In general, I’m not a fan of artistic crossovers – more often than not, the new work ends up compromising what made each individual component great – but ...
Linda Burgess, who has just spent a fortune on a ball of fluff, reflects on the animals who have left paw prints on her heart.Childhood pets?I don’t come from a particularly animal-loving family and when I was five or six I had to argue persuasively, plead even, to adopt Rastus ...
By Scott Waide in Lae, Papua New Guinea Sir Michael was a man of many titles. He was father, grandfather and chief. As a tribal leader, he was Sana, the peacemaker. His influence and his reputation extended beyond Papua New Guinea’s border to the Pacific and other parts of the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anna Howe, Honorary Professor, Department of Sociology, Macquarie University, Macquarie University The Governor General was handed the report of the aged care royal commission on Friday. It will be made public in the coming week. Overlaying its considerations has been Australia’s 909 ...
Michelle Langstone went to meet the revered and feared chef expecting to meet a tyrant. Portraits by Simon Day.You know when Tony Astle is about to tell you a good story by the way his eyes start to gleam with mischief, and how he leans forward to rest his elbows on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kate Selway, Macquarie University The largest and most destructive earthquakes on the planet happen in places where two tectonic plates collide. In our new research, published today in Nature Communications, we have produced new models of where and how rocks melt in ...
Analysis: The government wants the Reserve Bank to curb house prices, Parliament passes the Māori wards bill, and an MP gets away with a rude word in the House. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra University of Canberra Professorial Fellow Michelle Grattan and University of Canberra Vice-Chancellor and President Professor Paddy Nixon discuss the week in politics. This week Michelle and Paddy discuss the continued probe into the culture of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Geoff Hanmer, Adjunct Professor of Architecture, University of Adelaide This is the second of two articles on the past and future of the university campus. The “dreaming spires” of Oxford University that Matthew Arnold romanticised in 1865 still have a powerful ...
The finance minister spoke to Auckland businesspeople today on the state of the economy a year after Covid-19 landed, and how he hopes to take on another crisis. Toby Manhire went along.Virtual presentations in place of in-the-flesh speeches have become commonplace in these pandemic days, but it wasn’t Covid that ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dominic O’Sullivan, Adjunct Professor, Faculty of Health and Environmental Sciences, Auckland University of Technology and Professor of Political Science, Charles Sturt University The government earlier this year released a discussion paper exploring how an Indigenous Voice to government might work. The Voice ...
Immigration New Zealand is standing by its decision to grant a visa to the partner of Green MP Ricardo Menéndez March and says the application was treated "like any other". ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Nathalie Collins, Academic Director (National Programs), Edith Cowan University Business etiquette has one golden rule: treat others with respect and care. The same is true for encouraging cyber safety at work, on everything from password security to keeping valuable information like tax ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Richard Bryant, Professor & Director of Traumatic Stress Clinic, UNSW Although Australia is now largely COVID-free, the repercussions of the pandemic are ongoing. As the pandemic enters its second year, many people will be continuing to suffer with poor mental health, or ...
Auckland Council has signed off on a new strategy to make it easier to recycle or get rid of inorganic waste, but according to South Auckland community leaders, it doesn’t go far enough.Tucked a few streets back from former prime minister William Massey’s beautiful old homestead in Māngere East is ...
With crowd-friendly dance tunes and affordable drinks, a new dancehall and bar opening tonight is hoping to make going out more accessible for Aucklanders.“In many ways, it’s fucking stupid opening a nightclub in the middle of a global pandemic,” says Sam Walsh, one of the three owners of a new ...
Water New Zealand says the establishment of the new Taumata Arowai board is an important milestone in the journey towards safer drinking water for all New Zealanders. The Minister of Local Government, Nanaia Mahuta has announced that former ...
The PM says there are "many, many people" being treated as contacts of the latest Covid-19 community case, but the government is willing to go further than usual to keep the country at level 1. ...
Listen: This week's Extra Time podcast from RNZ dissects the women's White Ferns' cricket challenge against England, the men's Black Caps vs Australia and the start of Super Rugby The White Ferns have a battle on their hands to fight their way back into their one-day series against England - ...
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In remarks for a Monetary Policy Statement presentation to the Canterbury Employers’ Chamber of Commerce today, Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr has elaborated on the direction received from the Minister of Finance, to have regard to house price sustainability ...
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Good morning and welcome to The Bulletin. In today’s edition: Reserve Bank put in bind by Robertson move, Bridges clashes with top cop, and critical migrant health workers can’t get families in while new arrivals can.Finance minister Grant Robertson will be requiring the Reserve Bank to consider the impact on ...
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Someone investigated how the pandemic transformed Billy TK from blues musician into aspiring politician in a few short months, and provides the historical evidence documenting the transition: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/14-09-2020/how-billy-tk-plunged-down-the-covid-conspiracy-rabbit-hole/
There's a binary switch in the mind, that shifts us between imaginal and real. Our imagination helps us survive by creating possible paths to the future, so we can optimise our personal worlds via our choices.
This psychological process works when we do so via both/and logic: grounding ourselves in the real world but simultaneously investing energy in choices and actions and activities intended to catalyse the world we want.
Thus the alchemy of progress. Problems emerge when co-creating the desired future world with others. Typical is the common one in which folks assume common ground instead of identifying it and agreeing to it. Tacit psychology then takes over and everyone proceeds on the basis of popular delusions.
With sub-cultures, the belief system of the group forms a trap for young (or naive) players. Lotsa folks aren't good at doing reality checks. Critical thinking is now taught at universities, but for those not born with the innate ability to do it as part of normal life, it remains a minority trend.
So the binary switch shifts many from conventional co-created reality (mandated by convention, recycled by msm) into the unconventional co-created reality of the sub-culture. True believers then operate as social justice warriors in an attempt to expose the falsity of the mainstreamers. God is on Billy TK's side, he believes. As the instrument of god's will, his mission is to save the poor deluded Nat/Lab voters.
A mate and I were korero about Covid and 'conspiracies'.
The observation he made was that in the past (20 yrs ago), the folk enquiring along conspiracy lines, had to work hard and seek out info, plus, they tended to be on the margins of society.
Nowadays, dubious information is logarithmically fed to the mainstream, and they are losing their shit. They are not used to being on the outer.
On conspiracy, it was a relatively quiet anniversary of 12/9.
Nowadays, dubious information is logarithmically fed to the mainstream
A key point, I suspect. Enabled by multiculturalism – which was a healthy antidote to mainstream monoculture when it started.
Via postmodernism, diversity of views became paradigmatic. Tolerance of the mentally ill (under the guise of pretending they can be normalised) gives us Trump.
So competing world-views can be rationalised as the sensible product of a caring, tolerant, all-inclusive civilisation. Freedom of choice, caveat emptor. In ancient Rome, tolerance of foreign religions became the norm for centuries until christianity imposed monoculture.
In the nexus of faith, science, and politics, we mustn't lose sight of the fact that the reality of covid-19 is more evident to the specialists who study it than anyone else. Everyone else just has faith that the advice they provide to govt is sensible. We have faith in the msm when it tells us about those infected as a secondary consequence.
We don't believe Bill Gates is using 5G with the UN mandate to make them sick. Our faith in govt decision-making derives from our faith in the scientists whose collective judgments drive public health policy. Seems logical, but it's faith-based, just like Billy's faith in god's will.
Equating public trust in the collective judgement of experienced expert scientists re the Covid-19 pandemic, with faith in Billy TK's intepretation of God's will, may be a stretch.
I'm comfortable with the opinions of practitioners of faith-based movements in matters of faith – heck, the comparatively new religion/cult of Scientology was manufactured in short order by one creative mind – but when faith-based judgements, and consequent actions, are in conflict with science-based precautionary recommendations in matters of public health, then I'd hope that common sense would prevail, eventually.
What might L. Ron Hubbard have made of Billy TK?
Scientology’s multi-million dollar headquarters to open in NZ
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11781005
Oh, headbanging stuff has arrived from the USA to give us the full smorgasbord of their psycho-logic.
The song for today:
Daddy started out in San Francisco,
Tootin’ on his trumpet loud and mean.
Suddenly a voice said, “Go forth, Daddy.
Spread the picture on a wider screen.”
And the voice said, “Daddy, there’s a million pigeons
Ready to be hooked on new religions.
Hit the road, Daddy. Leave your common-law wife.
Spread the religion of the rhythm of life.”
The lyrics in the song are adjusted for the religious. The original as you see is more saucy.
Here is Sammy Davis giving his performance very lively.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKSA049xkiU
Will this be the setting for the left on October 17th?
Thanks Grey for this well-observed lyric – worth bearing in mind as we approach election day.
It's a great little rhyme that sticks in the mind, more and more after the Evangelicals mucked up the country and its election.
I draw the line when it comes to misinformation which can harm others.
When you have a choice to avoid not being harmed by the view of a conspiracy theorist they can do and think what they want. The problem with Covid – 19 is the community spread and a person would need to put their self on home detention to avoid it.
So who is being restricted the most when it comes to misinformation about the transmission of Covid – 19?
Dennis; I was trialling an idea with friends over the weekend; perhaps you'd like to masticate this too: if every human had the power to make real their every imaginary scenario, on a global scale and could repeat and adjust their creation endlessly and instantly, what would happen (take out irreversible chaos or non-existence etc.). Would there be a settling-out to a world that reflects the true human spirit? Would the choices and result reflect the deep subconscious of the human race? Would we reach a steady-state, or be plunged into a flickering super-8 movie where no frame connects with any other?
One friend suggested, "Isn't what you propose what we have now"?
I tend to agree with that friend. 😊
But I like the discourse you co-created. What chaos theory told us about nature is that patterns of order emerge naturally (in an apparently chaotic system). So, since a social system operates similarly to an ecosystem, monocultural trends will persist awhile when produced as a result of system bifurcation, then evaporate or subside into a context of multiculturalism after that.
Would we reach a steady-state, or be plunged into a flickering super-8 movie where no frame connects with any other?
Both/and applies. Some will feel that the flicker is too much, and will gravitate toward the islands of stability. Those islands will grow in response. Firefly humans will dance amidst the flicker. Butterfly humans will flit between islands. You get the picture, eh? Biodiversity.
Human fish will experience fluid cultural chaos as an ocean. Surfers will ride the surface of that. In astrology, ocean is represented by the Pisces archetype (mutable water, fixed water is pond or lake, cardinal water is rain, a spring or run-off originating stream or river). Kinetic energy and potential energy are the physics binary: discovering the emergence of subatomic particles into the physical universe a century ago caused theoretical physicists to postulate a realm of potential energy, with forms and fields also emergent from that. Fields are the tertiary category in physics that are real inasmuch as they are detectable, but we can't sense them so we use the imaginal to describe them. How forms arise in nature remains too hard!
or the truth could be a lot simpler. someone with a reputation of non-payment of fellow musicians(goes down very badly in nz small music scene) who spent way too much time watching online rubbish during lockdown. needs to find another way of self promotion because he has burnt too many bridges in the music scene. as for god being on billys side ,think bob dylan (a LOT closer to god than billy ever will be)says it best in "with god on our side"
That's a very apt comment, woodart, thanks!
cant go wrong listening to bob .
Today's "Jeff Bell" cartoon reveals Billy's bestie, Jamie-Lee Ross in all his glory.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/114832270/jeff-bell-cartoons
Thanks for the identification RG. Can see it better now.
I did not know who it was but had more or less settled on David Seymour except I thought there was something wrong with the hair. Some of the point DS comes out with also fit.
The under-attack Maori language video should be the topic of a post.
Is this the same Will Ryan from the nutter 'Right Minds' group? I think so. Dangerous people who, along with the likes of BFD (Whaleoil) model themselves on US extremist conspiracy theorists.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12364555
If it is, then it is likely the reason for refusing to wear the mask is not so much to do with "freedom" but more to do with gaining media exposure, and being able to credibly complain about personal persecution.
Wonder if he's copped a lifetime ban from Fullers? Poster in the terminal and his fellow passengers will rat him out in a heartbeat. Guess he is now stuck some where.
They published his NZers for Trump rant – google cache
Anyone got a link to one of those graphs that shows Labour as a better financial/economic manager than National?
Alert levels . What is the point about different regional levels when people can simply change levels by travelling?
We have some of the people who went to the demo in Auckland also showing up at meetings in Southland if I have understood correctly ( no idea as to the actual time Line) But if we had trapped Auckland in Auckland then the rest of us could be at level 1.
Also seen stuff with a story from Baker about purpose built facilities at Ohakea Read the idea here first?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122722400/high-risk-covid19-hotels-should-be-ditched-replaced-with-purposebuilt-facilities–experts
I find it illogical too that people in the two areas where Covid is can travel out of those areas at whim. I do think some containment boundaries are required , be it regional or by suburb , until those areas are cleared.
I understand the concern about mixed levels without internal borders, but I think the approach is valid.
So if a few Aucklanders leave under level 2.5, what are the odds of them spreading an infection? What are the odds of that not getting detected early in other regions? Spacing in planes lowers those odds even more. A specific aucklander being detected to having an infection on a given day is currently in the region of a million to one.
I like the idea of bespoke isolation facilities, but I'd actually go so far as to suggest that the government should develop some dual-purpose facilities: hotels/conference venues for even a few decades, but can be adapted into an isolation facility or a refugee/disaster processing centre as and when needed. As in, from the design stage up it can operate as one or the other or even both but separately, with neither group crossing paths at any stage.
Thanks for those sound words McFlock. It's practical to sit down and think out the whole situation. We need to understand and not just get irritated with the Why don’t we’s, why can't we's?
There is no more spacing in planes or on buses. Mask wearing is compulsory. Yet Auckland is still at level 2.5 until a review next Monday.
So the level 2.5 has changed in Auckland and the rest of the country is still at level 2.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Was out in the Albany shopping precinct (mall and adjoining blocks of shops) on Saturday morning and was so impressed with the very high turnout of mask wearers and shoppers using the tracing ap. All ages and ethnicities . I would have put it at about 85%. It was great to see. Then today I was at Glenfield mall for a short visit and the complete opposite was happening. My hubby and myself commented at how many people were wandering around completely mask free. Again all sorts of people and ages. I thought how strange. What it is it that makes some areas compliant and some so non-compliant. Even using the ap was haphazard as I was waiting for the other half (as you do) to finish off what he was doing and was adjacent to the ap and observed people wandering into the mall and not using the ap.
On another subject. I know this is pretty full on but I can see how people get confused with the PM's announcements. Why is it that people coming into the country whether they are showing symptoms or not have to isolate and be tested over two weeks before going on their way. Then on the other hand the Greater Auckland area has clusters of infection being monitored and in some cases in managed isolation yet we allow our region to travel wherever they like all over NZ taking the bug with them to other areas.
I understand that commerce has to carry on, goods have to be carried up north and down south but the logic isn't there for me. Surely we the Auckland region needs to be isolated from the rest of the country , get on top of the virus and then allow free travel. Simplistic I know but I am not a logistics wonk just a curious person . Meanwhile the planes are filling up with us lot up here and going to the ski fields and wherever. No wonder the provinces get sick of us!!
The difference in probability of catching Covid from an Aucklander in or outside of Auckland is negligible to zero This targeting of Aucklanders is bs by a small number of small brain provincial hicks
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/122758106/coronavirus-covid19-restrictions-to-remain-for-a-week-at-least-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-announces
I am not a small brained provincial hick thank you. This is our shit up here and for the sake of the rest of the country we shouldn't be allowed to take this shit out of town.
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This seems a sensible spend for the regional fund? Why wasn't it utilised here, and can it still be repurchased for Kapiti area?
http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=130854
Sep.9/20 Disastrous consequences if Kāpiti Airport is closed
I apply first principles here. Nothing comes or will come of depriving people of their land no matter how laudable the proposals by others for the future are. The Maori owners have been deprived of their ownership, and have been for many many years since the land was taken for defence purposes without compensation.
The land should be returned to the Maori owners forthwith. If the Maori owners wish to negotiate for parts to be used as a commercial entity then so be it. Maori owners have seen large chunks of this land used for private housing and this is so far away from a defence use or even a Govt use as to be a misuse of power by the current occupiers, in my view.
I didn't read who the owners are – Maori?
It was a syndicate of the users of the runways, developers etc. The Todd group owned it for many years then sold to (now) The Templeton group now owns.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/116263291/kpiti-coast-airport-sale-by-todd-property-group-comes-as-a-surprise-to-air-chathams
Land was Maori owned until the land was taken for Emergency use/defence purposes during WW2. Despite no longer being required for defence purposes or any other public works purpose( the PW Act has strict parameters) the land has never been handed back to Maori. To me all talk of future uses, that take the future use of the land further and further away from the use it was taken for should be put on the back burner.
This is one of my 'bee in bonnet' & hot button issues.
Restrictions banning social gatherings of more than six people have come into effect in England. The "rule of six" applies to both indoor and outdoor activities.
Groups larger than six can be broken up by police, with members of the group facing fines of £100 for a first offence, doubling on each further offence up to £3,200.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54142699
Nothing wrong with a six pack
I wonder if bashing oversized groups over the head with a baton produces blood particles that float in the air and spread the virus..
Not easy to beat this beast.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/426001/pumice-layer-delaying-140m-highway-was-known-about-before-work-started
Roads in NZ the biggest fun is getting them afterwards it's pedestrian.
Foundations for two flyovers on the Baypark to Bayfair project are having to be redesigned because of the instability of a buried layer of pumice.
The agency has twice said the pumice was "unknown" and was "discovered" during ground works.
But it now says it knew the pumice was there.
The impact on costs and schedule is still being worked out on a project where the completion has already been pushed back to December 2022.
In April, the agency said: "The unknown pumice layer, which was discovered as part of the ground conditions work, could have wide implications on overall construction in the Bayfair area."
RNZ questioned this as the region is well known for pumice and the agency has had past bad experiences when piles for the nearby harbour bridges threatened to sink.
should the labour party change there name to the middle class party?
They do seem intent upon destroying the middle class – or at least reducing it in to common penury …..