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Open mike 15/03/2019

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102 comments on “Open mike 15/03/2019”

  1. bwaghorn 1

    79 people dead in 10 years from police chases.
    It’s time to stop.
    I dont blame the cops they are doing their job . But it isnt worth it.

    • BM 1.1

      Automatic 1 year in prison for anyone who runs from the police.

      People need to know that if you run you will pay a high price, at the moment with the wet bus ticket criminal system we’ve got, people try their luck because if you’re caught there’s no real punishment.

      • bwaghorn 1.1.1

        Aagh so double down on stuidity?? Not surprisingly from a right winger.
        They’ll run harder dont ya think.

        • James 1.1.1.1

          Of course – tell the police to ignore them and remove any consequences for the baddies.

          That will make them pull over.

          • bwaghorn 1.1.1.1.1

            Innocent lives to catch a car thief that they will more than likely get at some point down the track .
            Not worth it really .

        • BM 1.1.1.2

          Nope, as I said, there’s no real punishment if you run, so you’ll try your luck.

          No punishment if you get away vs slap on the hand if you’re caught vs fine/PD for whatever made you run.

          Consequences of actions are what’s been missing from NZ for a very long time.

          A year in prison would make many think twice before they bolted.

          Obviously, a bit complicated for you bwaghorn, maybe you should stick to rooting sheep.

          • solkta 1.1.1.2.1

            Such decisions need to be made in seconds which does not leave time for thinking twice.

            • BM 1.1.1.2.1.1

              Just run an advertising campaign along the same lines as what was done for drink driving.
              “You run, you’re inside”.

              Once a few end up in the big house and with an effective advertising campaign, it won’t take before it’s ingrained into peoples heads that it’s not worth it.

              • Barfly

                “Nope, as I said, there’s no real punishment if you run, so you’ll try your luck”

                versus

                “79 people dead in 10 years from police chases”

                BM seriously??

              • riffer

                A cynical observation could be that the Police should run a campaign more or less saying the truth…

                “You run, we’ll chase you until we catch you or you die.”

                Wouldn’t make any difference but.

              • greywarshark

                BM
                You’re wasting your time here. You are sunk in your own propaganda.
                But you have a use. You demonstrate to active thinkers here, the large group of people who live their lives according to a recitation of learned directives which they chant whenever they feel discombobulated. It is a settling process and they can then proceed slowly forward like a giant tortoise surrounded by its shell. They don’t understand much and that is a great comfort to them though they don’t understand that either.

              • Hongi Ika

                Like + 100%

          • Hongi Ika 1.1.1.2.2

            Like + 1000%

        • Gabby 1.1.1.3

          The harder they run, the bigger they’ll crash waggers.

      • cleangreen 1.1.2

        BM.

        Do you ever do any research before you open your blogs?

        Police chases are not accepted in our ‘progressive regions of the world.

        I have spoken before about my personal experience while working in Canada during the 1969 era when there was a rash of Police chases then.

        There was a massive public rally to stop police chases and the pursuit by police was then abandoned as the young offender was often killed in the pursuit.

        Police and the Government in Canada also were very concerned about the safety of others on the roads were not harmed should they have continued the chases.

        No real negative effects were felt after then chases were abandoned.

    • ianmac 1.2

      A remark from one of the drivers who ran and survived a chase was, “I’d do it the same again.” Suppose the thrill of the chase is a motivation.

      • bwaghorn 1.2.1

        The od muppet killing himself I have no problem with . When said muppet kills the dizzy teens in the car with him or worse a complete innocent then it’s not worth it.

    • Incognito 1.3

      Maybe they should look into using drones instead of cars chasing cars.

  2. Jenny - How to get there? 2

    The Principal’s Association has issued a vaguely ominous public statement, (presumably motivated by a genuine concern), saying they cannot guarantee the safety of students who attend the climate protests. And threatening punitive action against students who do attend.

    The Principle’s Association say that their views are echoed by that of the police.

    Principals have told RNZ while the march’s message is commendable, they cannot guarantee students’ safety if they decide to attend…..

    ….The Secondary Principals’ Association is refusing to endorse tomorrow’s climate change marchand says studentsare likely to be marked as truant if they attend the protest.

    How it would be seen if the police or the authorities issued such a statement before any other public protest march?

    Admittedly, protesting is unsafe, going on strike is unsafe. It upsets the social order. It makes those in authority feel uneasy, they often don’t know how to respond to a perceived challenge to their power and authority.

    Somehow, I get the idea that in this case, the Principal’s Association’s concerns are motivated by more than just the safety of the students.

    Revealed by this statement:

    “There are lots of ways of putting pressure on,” he said. “A protest is one, it is global, it has got the newspapers, it is good, but what happens next?

    “Or is that just the fish and chips wrappers for next week?”

    This is a political statement. expressing a cynical subjective conservative viewpoint. ‘Protest is pointless, it doesn’t work’, 

    ‘protest is just fish and chip wrapping.’

    Also, suggesting that there are other ways of putting pressure on, but not suggesting any, is dishonest. What are these ‘other ways’?

    I think that if the Principal’s Association was really genuinely concerned about student safety at these protests, and worried about how they would get there safely, then they would have issued another statement entirely. (Let me paraphrase what this statement would probably look like)

    Because of our concerns about student safety at these protests and their travel arrangements, the Principal’s Association  urge our members to attend in solidarity with our students, to protect and guard them. We also urge schools to contact the organisers and offer to provide busses to make it safer for students who wish to attend these protests to get there.

    We are also urging those parents who can, to take the day off, and also attend as an act of solidarity with their children and as a further guarantee of their safety.

    Climate change is a safety issue. It makes us all unsafe. If the Principal’s Association was really concerned about their student’s current and future safety, then they would be doing their very best to make sure that these protests are as successful and safe as possible.

    Personally I wish these brave young adults all the best, and that their daring and courageous protest in the face of opposition from the authorities goes off without mishap.

    This is a view which is not shared by authoritarians, who are probably wishing for harm to befall them, so that they can say, ‘I told you so’. And, ‘It is best (and safer),to do nothing’.

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384735/no-guarantees-on-safety-for-striking-students-principals

    • Andre 2.1

      One of mine is going. His mother offered to write whatever note he needed to mollify the school. His response was “Nah, getting marked truant and pissing off the authorities is part of the point.”

      • A 2.1.1

        I like this kid

      • Anne 2.1.2

        Sounds like he’s a chip off the old block!

        • Andre 2.1.2.1

          Nah. His head functions a whole lot better than mine did at that age.

          • Bewildered 2.1.2.1.1

            I am sure with that attitude he will be a great success

            • Andre 2.1.2.1.1.1

              He’s got fairly good judgement about when to keep a lid on it and when to let it loose.

              In any case, a more precise expression of what he was trying to say would be that taking away the risk of consequences makes it much less significant as a protest.

    • mauī 2.2

      I suppose it’s what you would expect from a collection of pointless authoritarian figures. “Getting in the way” springs to mind…

      The amount of pointless assemblies that we were put through while missing out on actual learning. Great to see the kids getting some of their own back and learning so much more today.

    • bwaghorn 2.3

      How does one counter argument put up by muppets like collins and garner that because people aren’t living a completely carbon free life they cant be activists for change . ?
      My view has always been it has to come from the top as little bits from the bottom will achieve nothing .

      • Andre 2.3.1

        Hand the microphone to AOC.

        “Living in the world as it is isn’t an argument against working towards a better future.

        The Green New Deal is about putting a LOT of people to work in developing new technologies, building new infrastructure, and getting us to 100% renewable energy.”

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/03/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-mocks-report-green-new-deal-hypocrisy/3049218002/

        • Brewildered 2.3.1.1

          The educated response

          AOC is a ‘pompous little twit’ with a ‘silly’ climate plan, says Greenpeace co-founder. … But Patrick Moore, one of the original founders of Greenpeace, called her expensive plan “silly” and repeated his claim that she is a “pompous little twit.” “It’s a silly plan.

          [lprent: Silly is saying this without a link. This is your warning. Read the policy. ]

          • Andre 2.3.1.1.1

            Patrick Moore may indeed have been influential in the early days of Greenpeace. But his ideals and Greenpeace’s ideals parted company several decades ago. Not that that necessarily discredits him: these days I don’t think much of Greenpeace either. But it makes his trading on his long-gone ties to Greenpeace pretty dishonest.

            What does seriously discredit him, however, is his vocal climate-change denialism. Along with his other pro-corporate anti-environmental activities.

            https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/patrick-moore-climate-doubter/

    • A 2.4

      How ridiculous this all is. Climate change is unsafe and involves extinction.

    • Wensleydale 2.5

      It’s sad. The subtext to all this seems to be “Stupid children. You’re defying authority, accomplishing nothing and should be here at school learning important stuff like… how to throw a ball around a muddy paddock. Having principles or feeling passionately about things likely to affect your futures are both enormous wastes of time, and once we’ve finished raging impotently at your impertinence, we’re going to mark you down as absent. That’ll teach you!”

  3. Sanctuary 3

    The “important” Auckland schools are more concerned with brand perception than setting an example of democratic participation.

    • Incognito 3.1

      Schools used to be great institutions to teach obedience, complacency, and knowing your place (and rights) in society. Many a class war was fought in schools and the education system. Luckily, we have moved on from that.

      • Dennis Frank 3.1.1

        I went to Wanganui Tech before it changed it’s name to Wanganui Boys College (1964) but it continued to incorporate military drill as part of the instruction. So much for modernisation! I recall being made a corporal, and having to ensure that my rabble of ten other boys stood in a straight line.

        Having to do marching on a sweltering summer’s day was a pain in the proverbial. Fortunately deviation from short back and sides was forbidden, so the contaminating effect of the Beatles starting to grow their hair on the distant cultural horizon was inconsequential here.

  4. Gabby 4

    They’re covering their arses for when some lawyer parent comes after them for allowing young Nigel to jeopardise his partnership slot by getting filmed by Comrade Jian’s boys engaging in dissident activities.

    • bwaghorn 4.1

      It could be just pointing out that teachers duty of care only exists if kids are at school.

    • Anne 4.2

      Tell you what, back in the Cold War days it didn’t take much to be branded a dissident. I joined the Labour Party. That was enough to alert the ‘thought police’ to yet another potentially dangerous subversive on the loose among the populace. 😯

  5. patricia bremner 5

    I think a large number of parents will take their children park and accompany them then return them to school. The protest is at lunch time in Rotorua on the Village Green.

    It surprises me how this is seen as a ‘One off’ This is just the beginning of civil action.
    Next target will be big emitters shakers movers and political groups.

    Watch as these organised youth promise their 18 year franchise to a political group who promise to enact carbon limiting laws, and push for new strategies.

    is the beginning of a political world wide change unlike any other in history.
    It is not only the climate that has changed, it is the perception of wisdom with age.
    We have fed our wants at the expense of their future needs and they have lost trust.

    Those who are throwing ‘wagging’ comments are deliberately playing the age card.
    That won’t wash with such informed youth, and they also understand some might damage their careers through obvious support, so they have approached seniors in the related science fields to speak on the day

    After all we caused this through political choices, so who are we to say yay or nay?
    I hope this is a unifying electrifying moment in Gaia’s history..as we have made her sick, perhaps the concerted actions of the young will improve her health.

    I intend to go to support. I hope others will do the same.

    • Anne 5.1

      I love it. They are the new generation of the 60s and 70s. I hope they look to that generation of young activists for support and advice because as they grow older they’re going to need it. The establishment types – and they’re everywhere – can be ruthless and venal against those who have been pigeon-holed as ‘trouble makers’ – no matter how undeserved.

      Does anyone know if there is a march planned on Auckland’s North Shore?

    • greywarshark 5.2

      Patricia B
      True.
      This is long. If just a few read and offer thoughts they would be good to know.

      I have been thinking how we are not able to grasp the extent of our looming problems and seem to get narrower in our thinking, as at the same time our vista has open up with the ‘globalisation’ dumped on our hapless country with the capitualisation to capitalism with few restraints by personally ambitious Labour subversives and Treasury free-market devotees. We have been detached from the going-together mentality by the ‘ashpirationals’. What’s next for us is going to require some deep thought, and it needs to be across disciplines as they say in universities. And at the heart of getting the deep thought going is education, learning, discussion, workshops, conferences, then talking with the wider public and getting human-sized schemes going. Education at all levels, but particularly for today’s young is the most important thing in our land for their lives. Not just any sort of education though – but of facts and ideas and critical thinking and pragmatic idealism. Either aim above the present mark and think of how we can achieve the necessary plus a bit better, or look at the present and note whether policies still serve us well and formulate new ones that demonstrate to the country they offer new and better outcomes for all.

      I think too – taking the thoughts of education an young people further, that our concept of education has to change dramatically. This morning I heard criticism from Bahlie Huck? who I think introduced NCEA and National Standards (have to check on this to get my facts right) about present Labour Coalition initiated models to change education. Part is to take some control from Boards. About time – that way you get replication of the minds of middle-class accountants and university-educated wives, both rather narrow in their thinking outside their particular interests.

      It is obvious that my cohort’s education did not fit us to manage our lives and understand the likely future changes. We have been fed propaganda about how
      things would be, and so deeply ingrained has that been, that we are quite unprepared for this desolate future that has been devised while we were on our Rip Van Winkle paths.

      A different approach has to be taken from about age 9, based on understanding how they can be an agent in the world and have some choice about their own lives. Learning critical thinking, problem solving, how to run effective meetings so all participate and that good ideas and solutions can flow. Learn how to say why, and then find the reasonable answer. How to assess their own capabilities, and others’; their own tendencies and others.

      They need to learn ‘raw’ management of projects ie using paper and pencil and simple methods, working with a group using all their individual abilities, to think out a plan to make something, as the first part of two. The second is to make the thing, using raw skills ie not 3D printing. Teach people to be self-reliant first, then how to use new technology as well but know the basics and not be deferring to machines and technology all the time. Keeping the superiority of capable, imaginative human beings above that of smart machines – discriminating in favour of people; this is important. At present we are saturated in technology worship and it’s an addiction that is bad for the human race; compare it to alcohol, it is so satisfying, takes your mind away from cold reality, gives empty calories so little real food is eaten, and you get a malnourished lesser version of the once vital person.

      Then after five years of secondary education, the student goes into part-time work, doing apprenticeships, intern work, and back to school for part of the week doing some basic, and some specialised subject. Work and education are integrated. The young person finds out their natural abilities, but does a mix of physical work that is unskilled, some semi-skilled, and some requiring more advanced education. A well-rounded education of different tasks. And the result would be people making better political choices based on the needs of the country, plus their own needs and that of their age cohort, but with experience of others needs and wants, and that of the planet. It is necessary to understand that it is our nurturer not our bottomless treasure chest. It is time for us to grow up, as Mother Nature’s cupboard has bare shelves in it.

      Present education loads kids and parents with costs, among these for expensive uniforms, that have a competitive element to them relating to our school being different from yours and better. The children could dress simply in t-shirts with stick on labels denoting school, instead I was told over $100 for embroidered polo shirts for summer for an ordinary school. Basic shorts, skirts, trousers for cold winters, track pants even to bring practicality instead of fashionable ideas attaching social stigma to uniforms (woollen skirts trailing round girls ankles for the ‘good’ schools, or showing lots of leg with skirts and shorts above the knee for both genders.) Such matters make a difference to identity-finding young people. A set of uniforms, colour co-ordination for smartness and effective design for practicality with mix and match in design for choice. Seems a good idea but historical defiance to change.

      Children have been growing up faster, getting false sophistication and sexualisation, at too young an age as a precocious preparation for adulthood. Then they are denied a pathway to work and individual earning in our society. And this is growing with the use of robotisation, efficiencies and AI and what next? So we are keeping kids in a period of long childhood, denying them skills to make decisions and then a pathway to establishing their own lives, also sufficient security for starting life partnerships with a place to live in together. The young are being cheated. The education system has to stop its process of enabling this and help youngsters to learn how to learn what they need to know, and comprehend the routes to finding truth useful to good decision making. They need to gain confidence in their ability to think around their problems, even just how to recognise them, and know where to go for advice on their options. Parents can help, but in this fast-changing world, it is hard for them to know what to do, and they have to cope with change also.

      • patricia bremner 5.2.1

        Greywarshark, that is a thought provoking read. I think you are right about pen and paper problem solving, though I see the speed of thought of the visual world also. Reflection is not valued enough now.
        The awful events of today have left me feeling flat and more than sad…thanks for your response, a wee bright spot in a sad day.

  6. A 6

    Stuff is running an article about how you can be a millionaire by age 65 if you save $300 a week.

    No comments section so unfortunately no snarky comments to follow. Disappointing because they would have been the most interesting part of the page.

    • Wensleydale 6.1

      I’ve always suspected Stuff do a sort of ‘threat assessment’ before deciding on whether or not to allow comments. I’ve also noticed that comments on particularly controversial stories will on occasion mysteriously vanish into the ether.

  7. Sabine 7

    on the extension of article 50

    • Rosemary McDonald 7.1

      Isn’t she just what is needed in politics? Pity it seems like she is over it all and inclined to get out.

      • greywarshark 7.1.1

        She can sure get her point across. And speak fluently and understandably (even to the non Scots).

        • Rosemary McDonald 7.1.1.1

          ” And speak fluently and understandably (even to the non Scots).”

          It’s my father’s tongue. A Glasgow lad he was.

      • Sabine 7.1.2

        yes she is. She is very much what is needed.

  8. Dennis Frank 8

    Richard Harman has an update on the climate-change bill on Politik: http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1524/Attack-on-Shaw-unlikely-to-stop-historic-compromise-James-Shaw-Todd-Muller-Zero-Emissions-Bill-Productivity-Commission.htm

    “POLITIK understands there are still some issues to be resolved; the most notable would appear to be the degree of political independence of the Climate Change Commission. It would seem that NZ First and National may be at odds on this.”

    “Though NZ First’s Manifesto seemed to call for an independent Climate Change Commission (which is supported by both Labour and National), it is understood NZ First want Parliament to be the ultimate setter of any climate change targets.”

    “National has a different vision. It sees the Reserve Bank as a model and wants the Climate Change Commission to stand above politics. Privately National MPs will say they want to avoid a situation in the future where the climate change targets could easily get hijacked by a Government dependent on the Greens for survival.”

    An interesting conundrum – I see merit on both sides of this. I trust James will rebound fast and tough it out. His mana as negotiator will depend on how he can finesse such a substantial impasse.

    “Muller remains optimistic that he and Shaw at least, can agree on the final legislation. If they can, it will be an historic achievement to surely rank alongside legislation like the 1993 Electoral Act or the 1988 Reserve Bank Act as an example of Parliament at its best, working on a bipartisan basis on an important piece of legislation.”

  9. Andre 9

    The senate votes 59-41 that there’s no border emergency to justify misappropriating funds to build a wall.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/3/14/18264306/senate-republicans-block-trump-emergency-resolution

    The immediate effect is precisely zero, because Tangerine Twitler will just veto it, and there’s not enough votes in either the House or the Senate for an override. It should be hugely influential when things get to the courts, however. The constitution explicitly says Congress decides how to spend money, the prez doesn’t. And now Congress has very explicitly said no to spending money to build a wall.

    To precisely nobody’s surprise, a number of Repug senators have proven themselves to be all mouth and no spine when it comes to respecting the Constitution and their oaths to protect it. Ted Cruz, Thom Tillis, Ben Sasse are among those notables.

  10. esoteric pineapples 10

    Huey Long is often claimed to be a populist at best and a fascist and corrupt at worst but I find him quite interesting in videos like this.

    • alwyn 10.1

      Why does that clip remind me of the famous Cunliffe speech in South Auckland?

      Huey was actually quite well spoken when he wasn’t in his full flow of populist rhetoric.
      Pity he was murdered though. Politics in the US might have been very different in 1936 if the Kingfish had still been around.

  11. Andre 11

    Some of many reasons Bernie won’t be prez.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/kfile-bernie-nationalization/index.html

    Seriously, if John Kerry could get successfully swiftboated out of thin air, what kind of smears will get conjured up when there’s actual substantial source material to start with?

  12. Siobhan 12

    More than 220 children abused in Oranga Tamariki care in 2018

    An investigation into abuse in state care has found more than 220 already-damaged children were further harmed in 2018.

    Of the reported abuse, 36 children were sexually harmed, 182 physically harmed, 35 neglected and 83 emotionally harmed by caregivers, family members, other children and Oranga Tamariki staff.

    The majority of the abused were placed with families they had remained with, or returned to, after state intervention; families said to be supported by Oranga Tamariki – Ministry for Children.

    Now lets see how much press attention this gets, or, for that matter, how much traction it gets on NZ Political Blogs.

    Bashing a politician over the head clearly isn’t ‘the New Zealand Way’…but having 220 CHILDREN bashed while under supervision of the State’…???….????….

    • Rosemary McDonald 12.1

      Hiya Siobahn.

      Yes….seemingly this latest report about incidents of abuse of children in state care is a no-go for many. I’m wondering why, as if it was released under a different government some sites would be running hot with ‘it’s all the Natz fault’ comments.

      Again….sigh….the headline will have been read and most shied away as we wouldn’t want it to look like The Current Mob are not doing any better than the last.

      Read the article folks…actually all three as the Herald, Stuff and Natrad covered it…
      the numbers are so high because Oranga Tamariki are using a different data gathering method…”The new findings, the first from Oranga Tamariki’s new reporting system on child harm, were described as “distressing” by chief executive Grainne Moss.”

      With that cleared up….I agree… all that palava because James Shaw was attacked and nothing about this headline is just bloody strange. And saddening.

      Stuff, like the Herald last year has done some decent long form articles about this national shame and has strived to go below the surface and seek information and opinion from a variety of people.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111266757/more-than-220-children-abused-in-oranga-tamariki-care-in-2018

      To address this…we as a nation are going to have to break down the usual tribal lines (political, socio economic, cultural etc) and put aside some of our usual prejudices.

      The last time I wrote here on TS about my family’s experience providing foster care I was told I was ‘part of the problem of abuse in care’. Such is TS, and it’s commitment to encouraging ‘robust debate’.

      Anyhoo…a million years ago as we sat opposite the selection panel after we applied to be foster parents we were asked what we hoped to contribute. Other than the obvious loving, safe, warm family environment stuff, we said we expected that while we were caring for the children (many, many children) CYFs would be supporting the parent(s) to make the necessary improvements in their lives so they can safely have their children returned.

      Naive. Much?

      IMO. Substance abuse would be the first on the list of contributing factors. Kiwis drink too much. Period. And many folk get seriously nasty when they’re pissed. The day that drinking (and using chemicals to get off ones face in general) is treated as socially unacceptable as smoking tobacco we will see a marked improvement in the lives of, well, all of us.

      • Siobhan 12.1.1

        greetings Rosemary,
        We too were foster parents for a number of years and I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest even with cross over of these stats and differing methodology, these numbers are way too low.

        Interesting to read your comment “CYFs would be supporting the parent(s) to make the necessary improvements in their lives so they can safely have their children returned.”..that stuff used to drive me nuts..especially when one of our foster kids mothers became a supposed ‘success’ story…while her kid, who was in care their whole life, was left to wander around, a total lost soul, once they turned 17. Like we said to the case worker..”You’ve had 17 years to prepare for this, how can there be literally NO PLAN in place.”.

        And, and I know this is a controversial topic, but I have met people who foster for the money. Which some people find ridiculous, because the allowances are not enough to cover proper care, but for some folk the cost of a child is negligible, it really is a money making venture.

        And the fact is the social workers can’t ‘afford’ to see the bad motives of some FP because there are simply no other options…a roof over the head is better than sleeping under a bridge…that’s about the state of things in ‘Gods Own’.

        • Rosemary McDonald 12.1.1.1

          Sadly, I doubt there is a cyfs horror story I either hadn’t experienced first hand, or heard first hand from someone else.

          You see to me…”success” would equate to having got your shit together enough so your child can return to your care…where that child almost invariably desires to be, however happy that child is with the foster parents.

          Don’t they know at cyfs that these kids grow up not understanding why they were not worth the effort?

          And yes. We encountered a few foster parents who somehow managed to do very well financially out of the system. We barely made ends meet…and we’re seriously good budgeters and smell of an oily rag types. Every dollar went to the care of the child/children. Some folk are much more adept at extracting $$$ from the system.

          We had the same expectations of, and most importantly for our foster children as we did for our own. More than once we were told by some ink-still-wet -on -their-degree childless social worker that this was unreasonable.

          • WeTheBleeple 12.1.1.1.1

            Shane

            He was 14 and he slept
            Curled up in our dog kennel
            Under an old cooking apple tree
            That had seen

            It was better, he said
            than the last foster care
            and the one before that
            and back through the years

            He had the prettiest longest eyelashes
            This side of the Caribbean
            and he
            Won hearts and minds
            and he
            Broke them again

            The prize, he said, is Doctor’s bags
            Chemists shelves
            And surgery swag
            As he lit out from his captors
            Once more

            He was caught then escaped
            Till too aged for such japes
            Then they took him to Waikeria
            To grow old.

    • greywarshark 12.2

      I fear that this is a statistic that is all-embracing, which is probably an activity which in turn would be part of the statistic.

      Does it include every sharp word spoken, or any time someone has touched one of the children? Where is the love in society?

      I remember the case of an anally-retentive teacher at a school camp treating a naughty boy as if he was an advanced pervert. He had dropped his trousers and mooned at some girls. She hustled him away, shut him in a hut on his own, and personally drove him back to his home in disgrace. And he would have been labelled for ever no doubt, certainly at his schools.

      The tight lipped mouths of the middle class improvers with their desire for ‘naice’ behaviour and ‘compliance’ with rules that other middle class women and men have written
      ensure that there will be a cycle of ever-tightening regulations to be broken. The more the stats, the more money they can demand, and the worse the situation appears.
      We know that bad things happen in some families. Having some officious official find you out for something and put a bad mark against you just makes people’s lives hell. Especially with the targets set under neolib welfare which are uncompromising and often inhuman.

      The middle class can neglect their children and give them little love and kind guidance, but look good from the outside. They may send their kids to boarding school at a fairly early age. They find time for their kids in school holidays and the children don’t know what normal family life is like. But appearances matter; they give brownie points. There are a number of UK authors who spent a considerable amount of time at boarding schools; their characters developed or were squeezed into odd shapes as a result. Robert Morley said about his old school, which asked him a number of times to visit, that the only reason to return would be to set it on fire.

      Yet another author who spent a considerable time at a UK orphanage which ruled with a long rein, Leslie Thomas, used to run away occasionally. Then when he was tired and hungry, he would go to the nearest police station and they would give him a jam butty and a cup of tea and take him home. He would receive a lecture and settle back into the institutional life again. He grew into a man with a sensitive nature, a sense of humour, a work ethic and wrote many popular novels.

      Helping kids, and their parents with options that they could choose from so as to finding some satisfaction in their lives and controlling their faulty behaviour would be a change of direction for these ‘welfare’ agencies. Probably now the recipients regard the officials as the enemy and their work just adds to the difficulties that parents face. Celia Lashlie had some ideas and was succeeding in helping people break through their familiar behaviours that cycled into violence and in the documentary made, as she knew she was dying she had tears in her eyes that she couldn’t stay on earth and keep on the good work that had promised so much. She castigated herself for not looking after her health as she advanced her project. What a great person. Anyone who is upset at the
      Oranga Tamiriki statistics, all of which need caring attention, and some are pitifully serious and not getting the full attention needed, could carry on Celia’s work.

      Celia’s Army – Be part of the change.
      (https://celiasarmy.nz/

      (https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/105573733/new-film-captures-the-legacy-and-final-days-of-social-justice-campaigner-celia-lashlie

      Lashlie’s cure to end cycle of crime
      28 Aug, 2010 9:29am
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10669480

      Where is the Love? Was it just a lie?
      (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHPNUN-U8E

      • gsays 12.2.1

        Celia gets 5 stars from me, the courage shown by Ms Lashlie, both in archive footage, her actions in and and out of the prison system and in the interviews leading up to her death is inspirational.

        A true kiwi hero.

      • Rosemary McDonald 12.2.2

        I just read the Herald article you linked to GWS….

        “She wants to crack open the apathy of the average person who has no idea what really goes on, and because she believes we are in the mess we’re in because we are training people to disassociate from emotion.

        From prison officers to social workers, people are told to work by the book and to leave their heart, soul and intuition at home, she thinks.

        Sure, the book is grim reading, she says, and of course there are extraordinary people out there doing extraordinary things.

        But she is “over ” the superficial debate and she is “over” CYF acting like bullies.

        She is critical of the Government’s new push for the faster permanent placement of children, which will leave in its wake, for some, a burning anger and resentment and a pathway to prison. ”

        I was wondering why I had not read that before as it is something I would have most definitely remembered. Hmmm… August 2010 my partner hospitalised as he battled leukaemia.

        Thanks for posting that link. Now…must try to buy that book…

        • greywarshark 12.2.2.1

          I was thinking about you this morning Rosemary. Hoping you are going well.

  13. Gosman 13

    Don’t want to blow my own trumpet (Oh alright, yes I do :-)) but I did call the Brexit Article 50 extension weeks ago.

    • Wensleydale 13.1

      Give yourself a pat on the head, Gossie. And a chocolate fish. It’s a genuine tragedy that your talent continues to go unrecognised by the unenlightened peasantry. As an ignorant prole myself, I feel naught but overwhelming shame. We can only aspire to one day scale similar heights of greatness.

      • Sam 13.1.1

        Gooie can have rat burgers to share with his rodent friends while they say to each other isn’t this better than crashing out of the EU in 2019.

        The rules are by definition 100% certain. However the EU outcome is also 100% certain. See every country in the EU now even Germany. They’re Economically fucked! Don’t fall for the EU propaganda and Remain narrative. Gooies idiocy = Your Demise. Good Luck!

    • left_forward 13.2

      O mighty Gos, your powers of prediction are f’king amazing! Like Wensley oracle, I prostrate myself before ye.
      [Apologies Wensley if that was not prostration].

    • Andre 13.3

      I am not worthy to roll in your spittle.

  14. greywarshark 14

    Chris Trotter is asking how NZ is getting on with its international relations comparing Helen Clark and Jacinda Ardern.

    It was an insight which propelled Clark towards the “realist” school of international relations pioneered by Hans Morgenthau. At the heart of Morgenthau’s realism was his belief that the relationships between countries should be guided by an assessment of the power each is able to bring to the task of advancing and defending their national interests. Ethical considerations are not irrelevant to this sort of calculation, but neither are they pivotal. In Morgenthau’s opinion: “A good foreign policy minimizes risks and maximizes benefits.”

    Clark’s realism proved highly effective in advancing New Zealand’s national interest. She earned the respect of four-fifths of humanity by declining to join in the USA’s illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003. More impressively, she persuaded the Chinese to put their trust in New Zealand, and thus became the first western leader to negotiate a free trade agreement with the People’s Republic….

    This is a long way from Morgenthau’s realism. Absent from New Zealand’s current foreign policy is the constant and careful calculation of precisely how much diplomatic power is available to us at any given moment for the advancement of our national interest.

    I hadn’t heard about Hans Morgenthau. 1.31
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsfh7OOZM9c

    Structural Realism – International Relations 9m+

    Morgenthau’s life. 4m+
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnF7Ro_HI0
    An interesting man.
    Armenians and Turks – still sensitive today.
    Fraud breaker.

    Father of International Realism
    This graphically explains the man and his thoughts. 4m+
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00jNQB39-0I

    • Cinny 14.1

      Grey, OT…

      Thanks for the post about the Living Wood Fair over in Golden Bay the other day, I heard back from the local paper today and the reporter there is going to do a piece on it 🙂

      Will post the link etc when it’s published.

      • greywarshark 14.1.1

        Beaut Cinny
        That’s good hive-minding or whatever.

      • Robert Guyton 14.1.2

        I’m looking forward to that article also, Cinny. I read all I could about the Living Wood Fair and am inspired to do something along those lines down here in Riverton next year. We have already a good resource with our forest garden venue, yurts and tipi, cob-oven, coppiced hazel and chestnut and lots of other “woodlander” stuff. I’m presently building a “hobbit hole”, shingled-roof in the form of a wizard’s hat, adobe floor and plan to wattle and daub the walls. Activities like those would interest folk who yearn to live in or near living trees, Imo.

      • marty mars 14.1.3

        Come over for it – awesome event. And you never know who you’ll meet 😊

    • Gabby 14.2

      So Helen bought a ‘first woman’ badge by selling out NZ. Bargain.

  15. Andre 15

    The Barbecued BLOTUS is now openly threatening violence on political opponents if things don’t go his way.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/trump-tough-people-military-police-bikers.html?via=homepage_taps_top

    • alwyn 15.1

      On the other hand, and much to my surprise, the lower paid people in the USA appear to be doing better with Trump in charge. Incomes are picking up and the higher increases are in the lower income groups.

      This is an extract from a newsletter I get from Roy Morgan each day. The original article was in the AFR which is pay walled so there is no point in providing the link.
      If you do have access you can find it there.

      “Roy Morgan Summary
      Goldman Sachs estimates that growth in wages across the US economy is currently around 3.4 per cent, and 4.4 per cent in sectors with low wages. The investment bank’s research also shows that wages for workers in the bottom 50 per cent of the US wage distribution is rising by around four per cent a year, compared with about two per cent for those in the top half. The higher growth in low-income wages gained pace from mid-2018, in the wake of the Trump administration’s company tax cuts package”

      So we have the lowest group up by 4.4%
      The bottom half up by 4%
      The top half up by 2%
      Overall the average is up by 3.4%
      The increases have picked up since the tax cut in mid-2018.

      Well. Who would have thought it?

      • Andre 15.1.1

        So the Tantrump hasn’t yet broken the Obama recovery. How does that relate to the problem that he’s just seriously trashed the democracy norm that threatening violence on political opponents is simply unacceptable?

      • greywarshark 15.1.2

        If they have less lower cost imports coming into the country and citizens have turned to buying USA manufactured stuff, and that includes some manufacturing outlets on islands that are included in USA overlordship, maybe that’s why they are better off. Simple economics would then cause a rise in demand for workers and willingness to pay some more. Good for the USA. Do they agree with other countries having the same opportunity within their borders?

  16. greywarshark 16

    Economics as we’ve got them shoved up our noses and /or other orifices. We have in the backs of our minds TIAA.

  17. greywarshark 17

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018686503/kate-raworth-a-good-doughnut

    Kate is the author of Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st Century Economist which sketches out a regenerative, circular economic model that, she says “meets the needs of all within the means of the planet”.

    Kate Raworth will be in New Zealand in May, in conversation with Rod Oram speaking about Doughnut Economics at 7pm on Monday May 13th, opening the Auckland Writers Festival.

    This woman is good looking and a great thinker and seems a consummate leader in the making. She might be able to lead us to a different watering hole, and get our leaders to drink there, instead of the usual clustering place where they all get tanked up on their shitty misleading mechanical methods that they are so stoked up with.
    And that leave us floundering, but that is the triumph of the individual over the masses.

  18. Andre 18

    😆

    I know most people are humour-exhausted about the least-self-aware most-projectionist buffoon ever, but trust me, this one’s still good for a smile …

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-beto-orourke-hand-insult-twitter_n_5c8ad1ebe4b0d7f6b0f13cf0

  19. Poission 19

    Breaking news shots fired at mosque in chch.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111313238/evolving-situation-in-christchurch

    Beware the ides of march.

  20. mosa 20

    Can’t pick up my friends son from school as it is all locked down.
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384790/shots-fired-at-mosque-in-central-christchurch

  21. mpledger 21

    Saw this on a blog about the college cheating scandal.

    Admissions Scandal: When Entitlement Buys Acceptance

    Overriding all this is the research showing that wealth and power corrode people’s moral compasses. Many studies show that the privileged act less ethically than the rest of us. They get their way in so many areas of life, they begin to feel that it is their due. Studies show that people driving expensive cars are less likely to stop for pedestrians at crosswalks than people driving less expensive cars. Rich people are less empathetic and compassionate toward people in distress. They are less adept at recognizing others’ emotions. If told that they may help themselves to candy in a bowl, but whatever is left over will be given to children, the wealthy will take more than others. They are more likely to endorse greed as good, to cheat in order to win a contest, and to negotiate unethically. People who are powerful are more likely to make moral decisions based on rights and self-interest rather than broader concepts like duties and obligations, caring and purity. Some studies show that children of wealthy people tend to be like their parents; whether they are in kindergarten or college, they tend to be more selfish than their peers.
    https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/admissions-scandal-when-entitlement-buys-acceptance

  22. Stunned Mullet 22

    Did you take special lessons in how to come across as a complete cunt or does it come naturally ?

    [lprent: Don’t be a completely ridiculous fuckwit.

    There are quite a lot of activists that I know who have been under surveillance, arrested, infiltrated by police for no particularly obvious reason bearing in mind that most of their activities were legal and the others were arguably in the public interest. In particular my niece.

    As far as anyone could tell, the real organised nutters seldom get that type of attention. If you have any evidence to the contrary then bring it up. Otherwise this looks to me to be simple diversion. Sending to OpenMike ]

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

    • Stuart Munro. 22.1

      Decades of surveillance of harmless folk like Keith Locke make people cynical.

      • Stunned Mullet 22.1.1

        I am sickened by those who carry out such attacks. I am also sickened by those who take the opportunity for a smart assed quip.

        Make no mistake. This is a black day for this country.

        • Jilly Bee 22.1.1.1

          Talking about smart assed quips – have you had a look at Kiwiblog Stunned Mullet, I was almost tempted to log on so I could comment, but thought the better of it. I thought Sanctuary’s comment was rather pertinent.

          • Stunned Mullet 22.1.1.1.1

            Yes I saw this at Kiwiblog…

            ‘David Farrar
            This is a time for kindness and humanity. Few people in NZ will not be shaken by this. Let’s support each other and remember that our common humanity is far stronger than our differences.

            If we want to make a difference today, do it with kindness.’

            and this

            ‘Simon
            Fucking terrible. Looks like the worst day in NZ since Aramoana. Maybe worse.

            Hopefully the Police here in Auckland patrol the Mosques in solidarity.’

            • Sam 22.1.1.1.1.1

              The concerns of other online message boards do not concern us.

            • In Vino 22.1.1.1.1.2

              I am inclined to agree with Jilly Bee. Who is a troll like Stunned Mullet to assume a bullying attitude and think he should set the tone? I found Sanctuary’s remark quite pertinent, and disagree with SM.

            • greywarshark 22.1.1.1.1.3

              If you were truly sensitive Stunned Mullet you wouldn’t use the c word.

        • Stuart Munro. 22.1.1.2

          I thought Sanctuary was pretty much on the mark.

          This appears to be a coordinated attack, so the random nut defense doesn’t quite work this time.

  23. Roflcopter 23

    It took 4 posts … must be a new record.

    [lprent: Banned for 2 weeks for stupid flamewar diversion. That was a completely legitimate comment. ]

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

  24. Muttonbird 24

    I wonder if Jordan Williams of the Tax Dodger’s Union is going to blame the left for this like he did after the attack on James Shaw.

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

  25. greywarshark 25

    Woman in hospital recovering from surgery who had protection order out against man, raped as she prepared to have a shower. Apparently women have to decide early whether to have anything to do with a certain man because once you are in his sights you can never be free again. And you have to prove you don’t want to have sex even when you are in a hospital bathroom. Then the law happily keeps letting the bugger out of prison to continue the harassment and attacks. It’s a life sentence for some victims.

    Crown prosecutor Mike Brownlie said the defendant had a history of assaulting females.
    ‘‘[His criminal history] indicates a consistently violent approach towards women.’’

    Counsel Sonia Vidal said his previous convictions should not be considered and there was ‘‘no additional violence associated to the intercourse’’.

    Judge Callaghan said there could be no ambiguity over the issue of consent.
    ‘‘She said very clearly ‘no’ for him during all intercourse.’’
    The judge sentenced him to eight years and one month and issued him with a warning under the three-strikes legislation.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/southland/man-jailed-raping-woman-hospital

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    PunditBy Brian Easton
    6 days ago
  • What about renters?
    The government today announced the latest part of its pandemic relief package: a six-month mortgage holiday for people whose incomes have been affected by the pandemic. Which is great, because these people are going to need help, and that's what the government should be doing. At the same time, it ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Living within our means.
    Years ago the Argentine sociologist Carlos Weisman wrote a book titled “Living within our Means.” It was a critique of Argentine society that focused on the paradoxical question of why, in a land of plenty, there was so much economic instability, inequality, corruption and political turmoil. His conclusion was basically ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • Transparency and the pandemic
    Parliament will be leading by example and adjourning tomorrow after a special sitting to consider an epidemic notice and state of emergency. Day-to-day oversight of the government will be delegated to a select committee. But that's not the only overight mechanism. The OIA will still be law, and (so far) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • ‘Overjoyed’: a leading health expert on New Zealand’s coronavirus shutdown, and the challengin...
    Michael Baker, University of Otago Overjoyed. That’s not a word epidemiologists normally use, but that’s how I felt after hearing Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement about New Zealand’s COVID-19 shutdown of everything except essential services for at least four weeks from midnight on Wednesday. More than anything, I just ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • One way to solve the housing crisis
    How much homelessness is caused by house hoarding? We're about to find out. The pandemic has destroyed tourism, which means that house hoarders who put their hoarded properties up as short-term tourist rentals are now offering them on the ordinary rental market:Property investors are pulling properties from Airbnb to offer ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The pros and cons of planting trees to address global warming
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bruce Lieberman It seems like such a simple, straightforward, empowering idea: plant trees – a lot of trees – all over the world, and watch the planet’s temperature fall. Who doesn’t love a tree or two, even far more – the right ...
    7 days ago
  • Not a grand coalition, but a government of national salvation
    According to Newshub, Simon Bridges is open to joining a “grand coalition” with Labour as we hunker down to go into a month long lockdown. The idea is sound. Before now, the role of the opposition was to scrutinise and oppose. In the context of what almost amounts to a ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Raise the Bar: hospitality workers & wage subsidy entitlements
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • Lifting our game against COVID-19
    We need to be lifting our game against COVID-19. You and I need to help those working to prevent the spread of COVID-19 while they’re trying to lift the testing and treatment efforts. We don’t want to be playing this game running backwards. Best to play it solidly forward, from ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • The maths and ethics of minimising COVID-19 deaths in NZ
    Prof Tony Blakely, Prof Michael Baker, and Prof Nick Wilson The NZ Government must do more to clearly articulate its COVID-19 strategy: eradication or ‘flattening the curve’ mitigation. But to do so means understanding the maths and ethics of both these strategies. In this blog, we adapt our work for ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • All aboard the Covid Train
    A few days ago I was starting to write something about the pandemic, which now seems unconscionable. It took the form of a letter to an agony aunt:“Dear Deidre, I have an ugly confession. I am quite excited by Covid-19.”This is how the piece went:“I’m not a psychopath, honest. Although the ...
    PunditBy Phil Vine
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    1 week ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Enlightenment when?
    I recently encountered the following prescription from a Faculty of Education at a leading New Zealand University. At first I wondered if it was another product of the postmodern generator (http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/), designed to create gibberish in the postmodern form, but I’m told it is real: The “schooled” society: Towards the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
    COVID-19 has plunged Aotearoa New Zealand (indeed, the world) into territory that, while maybe not totally unprecedented, certainly hasn’t been seen during the lifetimes of most of us here today. Our borders are closed to non-citizens, we’re being told not to gather in groups of more than 500 outside/100 inside, ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
    For the last few weeks, I’ve been urging you to prepare yourself, your family, business, and community for Covid-19. Now it’s time for real action.  Yesterday the director-general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield announced another 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, bringing our total to date to 52. ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 15, 2020 through Sat, Mar 21, 2020 Editor's Pick Now Isn’t the Time to Forget About Our Climate Change Efforts   Tasha Tilberg, Lindsey Wixson, and Liu Wen photographed ...
    1 week ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
    by Jan Rivers The article has been corrected to show that it was Ewen MacAskill, former Guardian journalist and not Luke Harding who travelled to meet Edward Snowden with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker Laura Poitras.  Some of the Guardian’s well-known journalists who did not sign the protest letter are ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
    by Cultural Worker Late March 2020 amidst the virus. With gigs crashing and burning all around it was without much hope that I called a long standing rest home booking: “ Hi, I’m supposed to be entertaining at your place this afternoon – is it still on?” “”If you don’t ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
    Whenever people demand real change from their politicians, we're told that "politics is the art of the possible". The implication is that change isn't possible, so we'd better just get used to the sucky status quo. But now that there's a pandemic, a lot of things we were previously told ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
    Together: In leading New Zealand through the Covid-19 Pandemic, the Prime Minister could do a lot worse than allow herself to be guided by the spirit of collective sacrifice and co-operation that animated the New Zealanders of 80 years ago. Most Kiwis alive today have had no opportunity to prove their ...
    2 weeks ago
  • GFC vs Covid-19
    It is said that generals fight the last war. In the case of the early stages of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) they had learned from the Great Depression of the 1930s and they fought intelligently and successfully. Later their advice would be ignored in favour of the Austerians who ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    2 weeks ago
  • Nobody Left Behind.
    Solidarity Forever: All over the world, the arrival of the Covid-19 virus has exposed the fragility of the walls we erect around ourselves and our loved ones. It has shattered our illusions of autonomy and revealed to us how utterly dependent we all are on other human-beings. Finally, we see ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Rebuilding a truly “Democratic” counter, or a “moderate Republican” bolt-hol...
    Looking across the various arguments for/against the leading candidates to take the Democratic Nomination, you might honestly be very hard pressed to tell. There are a number of things that have now started happening since Amy Klobuchar and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg both threw the towel in and immediately (and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion law reform a win for women
    by Daphna Whitmore Abortion is no longer in the Crimes Act in New Zealand. The law reform passed yesterday and now abortion is a medical matter between a woman and her doctor. Many women’s groups and progressive people have campaigned for reform for decades. The women’s liberation movement and some ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • How to spot bogus science stories and read the news like a scientist
    Doug Specht, University of Westminster and Julio Gimenez, University of Westminster When fake news, misreporting and alternative facts are everywhere, reading the news can be a challenge. Not only is there plenty of misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, climate change and other scientific topics floating around social media, you also ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Why New Zealand needs to continue decisive action to contain coronavirus
    Michael Baker, University of Otago and Nick Wilson, University of Otago With some of the toughest border restrictions and a newly-announced NZ$500 million boost to health services, New Zealand is among a small number of countries with a strategy to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. New Zealand is also fortunate in ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Parliament and the pandemic II
    As expected, the government has introduced a sessional order to allow Parliament to operate during the pandemic. You can read it on the Order Paper here, but the short version is that questions and motions can be filed electronicly, select committees can work remotely, and the the Business Committee can ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • When a virus goes viral: pros and cons to the coronavirus spread on social media
    Axel Bruns, Queensland University of Technology; Daniel Angus, Queensland University of Technology; Timothy Graham, Queensland University of Technology, and Tobias R. Keller, Queensland University of Technology News and views about coronavirus has spread via social media in a way that no health emergency has done before. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • How to survive 14 days of self-isolation
    So you’ve recently returned from overseas, come into contact with someone who tested positive, got a bit of a dry cough yourself or perhaps just want to self isolate for 14 days to avoid other people who might have COVID-19. Here are a few tips and tricks to help get ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion Legislation Bill passes third reading
    Some fave speeches:     ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    2 weeks ago
  • Why Leadership Matters – More Than Anything.
    Our Good Fortune: Precisely because she has never been an ideologue (she calls herself a “pragmatic idealist”) Jacinda Ardern has a political nimbleness and spontaneity which, when infused with her exceptional emotional intelligence, produces spectacular demonstrations of leadership. Jacinda's empathic political personality contrasts sharply with the less-than-sunny ways of her ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #11, 2020
    2 weeks ago
  • 68-51
    The Abortion Legislation Bill has just passed its third reading, 68-51. NZ First MPs bailed because their referendum amendment didn't pass, but there were plenty of MPs to provide a majority without them. The bill is a long way from perfect - most significantly, it subjects pregnant people who need ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The ‘herd immunity’ route to fighting coronavirus is unethical and potentially dangerous
    As most of the world tries to suppress the coronavirus spread, some countries are going it alone – trying to manage the pandemic through so-called “herd immunity”. Herd immunity means letting a large number of people catch a disease, and hence develop immunity to it, to stop the virus spreading. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Eight new COVID-19 cases today. It’s no surprise when you look at some numbers
    So, as I sit at home with a very, very slight headache (i.e. not at work when I would otherwise be so), the now familiar figure of Ashley Bloomfield reports eight new confirmed cases of COVID-19  including two in Waikato. A surprise, given that we had just twelve yesterday? No. ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • The WINZ Paradox versus the new COVID-19 Reality: Get real people, seriously…
    Many who advocated for, and voted for, the current Coalition – particularly those who voted Labour and the Green Party – expected to see a sea change in the reality of social services. A real, deep change of attitude, approach of process through which the system negotiates the difficult and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago

  • Christchurch Hospital Hagley ICU to open to support COVID-19 response
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients.   The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago
  • Government supports Air NZ freight flights
    The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister’s statement on State of National Emergency and Epidemic Notice
    Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Deadline for domestic travel extended
    People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Mortgage holiday and business finance support schemes to cushion COVID impacts
    The Government, retail banks and the Reserve Bank are today announcing a major financial support package for home owners and businesses affected by the economic impacts of COVID-19. The package will include a six month principal and interest payment holiday for mortgage holders and SME customers whose incomes have been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government working to keep air freight moving
    Minister of Transport Phil Twyford has today announced details of the Government’s support package to keep key air freight moving and ensure New Zealanders retain access to essential goods during the four-week level 4 lockdown. “The Government is working with airlines and air freight operators to ensure New Zealand’s key ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • New Zealand moves to COVID-19 Alert Level 3, then Level 4 in 48 hours
    New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 3 – Restrict New Zealand to move up to COVID-19 Alert Level 4 – Eliminate, in 48 hours Two-staged approach to give people and businesses time to prepare  Level 3, from tomorrow Non-essential businesses must close All events and gatherings must be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Prime Minister: COVID-19 Alert Level increased
    Good afternoon  The Cabinet met this morning to discuss our next actions in the fight against COVID-19.  Like the rest of the world, we are facing the potential for devastating impacts from this virus. But, through decisive action, and through working together, do we have a small window to get ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt takes significant economic decisions as NZ readies for Alert Level 4 in COVID-19 fight
    The Government is announcing significant further support for the economy, workers and businesses as the country unites to prepare for Alert Level 4 in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet today agreed to remove the cap on the Government’s wage subsidy scheme, which will inject a further $4 billion into the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Govt backs RBNZ move to support economy with lower interest rates
    The Government is backing the Reserve Bank’s latest action to support the economy by reducing longer-term interest rates, meaning lower costs for businesses and mortgage holders, and a lower currency to help our exporters. The Minister of Finance has signed a memorandum of understanding and a letter of indemnity with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government statement on commercial cooperation during COVID-19
    The Government has asked the Commerce Commission to take account of the exceptional circumstances created by COVID-19 when monitoring business behaviour in coming weeks.   “The purpose of my request to the Commerce Commission is to make sure businesses can work together in ways that will allow them to provide ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New Zealand temporarily closes diplomatic posts in Barbados and Myanmar due to COVID-19
    The New Zealand Government has temporarily closed its High Commission in Bridgetown, Barbados and its Embassy in Yangon, Myanmar due to the COVID-19 pandemic, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Due to the increasing scarcity of air links in and out of Bridgetown and Yangon, and the pressure COVID-19 is placing ...
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    1 week ago
  • Supporting Māori communities and businesses through
    Associate Health and Whānau Ora Minister Peeni Henare has today announced the Government’s plan to support Māori communities and businesses in the face of COVID-19. “Our Government’s $12.1 billion economic package will help many Māori whānau, workers and businesses, whether it’s through wage subsidies, income support and worker redeployment, or ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Guidelines for hospitality establishments released
    The Government and the hospitality industry have worked together to produce guidelines to assist with managing and reducing transmission of COVID-19, Health Minister David Clark announced today.  The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Nation steps up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2
    Four stage Alert System for COVID-19 announced New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2 – Reduce Contact New Zealanders over 70 and those with certain medical conditions told to stay at home as much as they can to reduce risk of contact with the virus Workplaces to implement ...
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    1 week ago
  • PM Address – Covid-19 Update
    Kia ora koutou katoa I’m speaking directly to all New Zealanders today to give you as much certainty and clarity as we can as we fight Covid-19. Over the past few weeks, the world has changed. And it has changed very quickly. In February it would have seemed unimaginable to ...
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    1 week ago
  • NZ and Singapore commit to keeping supply and trade links open, including on essential goods and med...
    New Zealand and Singapore have jointly committed to keep supply chains open and to remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the commitment. “This is an important collective response, and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Joint Ministerial Statement by Singapore and New Zealand -Covid-19 situation
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    1 week ago
  • Transit between Australia and New Zealand
    Travel restrictions, closing our border to almost all travelers came into force from 23:59 on Thursday 19 March 2020 (NZDT).  All airlines were informed of these restrictions before they came into force. Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says “The transit of passengers between Australia and New Zealand has been agreed upon and ...
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    1 week ago
  • $100 million to redeploy workers
    The Government has allocated $100 million to help redeploy workers affected by the economic impact of COVID-19, with the hard-hit region of Gisborne-Tairāwhiti to be the first helped, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford, Forestry and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today. Phil Twyford ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • More support for wood processing
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is ramping up support for Tairāwhiti’s wood processing sector to bolster the region’s economy at a time of heightened uncertainty, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Following earlier announcements today of a regional support package for Tairāwhiti, Minister Jones has also announced a ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Govt steps in to protect Air New Zealand
    The Coalition Government has stepped in to protect Air New Zealand with a significant financial deal that protects essential routes and allows the company to keep operating. The Government and Air New Zealand have agreed a debt funding agreement through commercial 24-month loan facilities of up to $900 million*. The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Stronger border measures to protect NZers from COVID-19
    The Government has taken further measures to protect New Zealanders from the COVID-19 virus, effectively stopping all people from boarding a plane to New Zealand from 11:59pm today, except for returning New Zealanders, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today.  New Zealanders’ partners, legal guardians or any dependent children travelling with ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Action on indoor gatherings and events to protect public health
    The Government has reinforced its commitment to protecting the health of New Zealanders from COVID-19 through the cancellation of indoor events with more than 100 people.  “Protecting the health of New Zealanders is our number one priority, and that means we need to reduce the risks associated with large gatherings,” ...
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    2 weeks ago