Open mike 17/02/2014

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178 comments on “Open mike 17/02/2014”

  1. amirite 1

    WTF? They voted for this? A charter school receives state funding of $19,664 a student compared to the average state and integrated school funding of $7000 a student.

    • Andrew 1.1

      comparing the funding of a small charter school, to the “average” state funding of all public schools is rather disingenuous at best. Given a new state school and a new charter school of the same size, both schools will be funded exactly the same.

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.1

        Wrong. These private schools need far more funding than public schools because they have to take their cut of profits.

        And millions of public tax payers money has already been poured into promoting these profit making private schools.

        Just total waste, a money sucking exercise by privateers, enabled by the National Government.

        • Andrew

          Wrong. Once again, public schools and charter schools are both funded in the same way.

          • Colonial Viper

            You’re a fucking liar. Or a sophist. Regardless. FOR PROFIT charter schools either get paid more, or they take SHORT CUTS to cheapen kids’ educations.

            So which is it?

            • Andrew

              Fuck off dickhead. You are the liar. What part of “get funded the same” can’t you get your fucking thick head around. Jesus, arguing with cats makes more sense than you do sometimes.

              • Colonial Viper

                Meh. You’re an untrustworthy neoliberal shill. Same neolib formula of taking public money and pocketing it for private profit. Its not even creative, its cookie cutter.

        • adam

          I think the term you’re looking for C.V is pirates. Oh they may have letters of marque, don’t change what they are.

          • tricledrown

            Schrillglands go back to propaganda school 5 eyed f/wit
            How does $18,000 odd per pupil work out cheaper than $6,000 to $7,000 per pupil.

        • srylands

          They don’t get more funding than public schools.

          Anway, profit signals drive the economy, and these signals are important for the efficient operation of markets. We should have more for profit providers in education. Over teh next decade that will happen. There is no alternative.

          • framu

            the economy is a part of the world not the other way round


            education isnt about settings up competition for the sake of profit

            what drives good education isnt the same thing which drives good business

          • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

            Here Srylands, I fixed it for you:

            Anyway, manipulation of profit signals by vested interests drive the economy into the ground, and thus it is important that these signals are not taken as the be all and end all of how we organise our society . We should remove the profit motive from education. Over the next decade that will happen. There is no alternative.

            • srylands

              No you are wrong.

              • McFlock

                Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, SSpylands. Your sad devotion to that ancient Free Market religion has not helped you conjure up a single supporting fact, or given you enough clairvoyance to make reliable predictions.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Hmmmmm reminds me of Governor Tarkin chiding Lord Vader…

                  • McFlock

                    not quite – the reply was “I find your lack of faith disturbing”, then T stepped in to stop DV mime-choking the only yank at the table. Fecking pc-gone-mad Tarkin and his wuss liberal intelligensia ways 🙂

              • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                @ Srylands

                No you are

                [That is the problem with comments lacking any justification: two can play at that game 🙂 ]

                • Murray Olsen

                  Your comment seems incredibly well justified, blue leopard. The rubbish that the 5 eyed monkey taps out randomly, on the other hand……

                  • Colonial Viper

                    The problem with arseholes like Shitlands and Andrew is that they have been tasked with destroying any basis for fact based discussion.

                    To them, lies and facts are completely interchangeable and their only preference is the one which wins the oligarchs more power and money.

                    • Andrew

                      So i am an asshole now for telling the truth? You know when you have well and truly got the better of you when you resort to that kind of crap.

                      show me i’m wrong, show me where charter schools get more money than state schools. and don’t give me that start up costs bollocks that DTB did below, because state schools are able to get start-up costs as well.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Of course you’re telling lies.

                      Private sector enterprises are motivated by profits, and these ones especially by taking tax payers money and putting them into privateer’s pockets.

                      It is yet another transfer of public monies away from public institutions into the private sector. Yet another re-run of the neoliberal formula that we have seen time and time again.

                    • Andrew

                      so that’s a no then on the show me i’m wrong call. good to know, thanks for playing.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Hey you smug shit, we all know what you K Street Righties are up to.

                      Private for profit organisations where public monies are going into privateers hands.

                      Thanks, but we’ve seen this same neoliberal episode over and over again.

                    • greywarbler

                      Charter schools will be a nice little earner for an entrepreneur/s, and they can be kept not-for-profit because the people running them will ensure that they take a nice big amount in salary and have useful vehicles that can be owned by the school , and possibly they will have a company that owns the furniture and then the school can lease it back from them.

                      Now that’s a good one, there is a profit on top of the cost price made when leasing the furniture to the school, and the lease costs are paid by the school year after year back to the private company.

                      Some charter schools may achieve much but it appears that there won’t be the same surveillance and bureaucratic checks on the teachers as there are in state schools, or on the running of the schools. What will come out in ten to twenty years will be some doozy stories. Some children will be glorified by their success, and some would be villified if anyone knew what dodgy methods had been adopted. ‘Power, unchecked, tends to corrupt and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.’

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Yep. Brilliant. Leasing computers and tablets, office space; admin staff and cleaners all well above minimum wage and all friends and family.

                      You see these arent real “entrepreneurs”. They are merely old fashioned scammers and rorters. The basis of the modern neolib Right Wing.

                  • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                    @ Murray Olsen

                    Oops, thanks, yes you are quite correct – the comment I made can be justified. Indeed, I should have written that I wasn’t providing any- not that it was lacking justification. 🙂

      • amirite 1.1.2

        Why does a private for-profit business need state funding?

        • Andrew

          That is a question that i don’t really know the answer to. But at a guess, I would say it is because they are aiming at teaching and helping the lowest 20% of achievers. The majority of whom are from impoverished backgrounds who’s parents are unable to afford as actual “private” education.

          But as it said, a complete guess.

          • Draco T Bastard

            That is a question that i don’t really know the answer to.

            What you really mean is that you don’t want to admit the reason why they need state funding – they want the guaranteed profits that state funding provide.

            • Andrew

              no, that is not what i really mean thanks very much. i thought putting words into other people mouths is a ban-able offence on this site.

              there is no guaranteed profit, they are funded in the same way that public schools are. if they meet their obligations and student performance is as expected, and they can make a profit then good on them. i very much doubt there will be large profits, and if so i would be certain that you would see the funding models changed to reflect that.

              • Colonial Viper

                Your rationale is a fictional nonsense.

                The only reason these shitty outfits exists is to divert funds out of the tax payers pockets into private hands, exactly as per the US charter schools model.

              • Flip

                Lets assume they are funded the same way. How would they then make any profit? They’d need to do something cheaper than the state system or alternatively obtain funding from other sources. Right?

                So if they do it cheaper what does that mean to your mind?

                Funding from other sources? Why then do they want the same state funding?

                You’ll need to explain how charter schools (with any profit motive) will provide better education? I do not see how it is possible.

                If it is a not for profit then presumably it is some sort of special interest school. The thing that special interest schools have that the state system does not is they get to choose pupils so do not need to provide the same level of social service. For this privilege they should not receive the same level of state funding. I think they should receive some as I’ll assume the parents still pay taxes but not to the same level as the state system.

                • Andrew

                  How would they then make any profit?
                  i don’t know. they may not actually be driven by profit. I guess when the first charter school makes a profit we will see how they did it and if it had any negative effect on educational outcomes.

                  You’ll need to explain how charter schools (with any profit motive) will provide better education? I do not see how?
                  sorry man, no idea. I don’t work in education so ill leave it to them. All i was doing was pointing out the inaccuracies of the first comment around funding levels.

                  The thing that special interest schools have that the state system does not is they get to choose pupils
                  I was not aware of this. I was under the impression that one of the reasons they get funded the same is that they cannot turn away any child that applies.

                  If you are correct, then i agree they should not get funded the same.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    They aren’t funded the same.

                    They are funded to ensure that the privateers make profits and to siphon money away from public institutions.

                    Its the same multi-decade neoliberal episode rerun over and over again.

            • Andrew

              and to add to that:

              charter schools will receive per-pupil funding from the government just like regular state schools do, however, they will be established and operated by “non-profit, community organisations including Iwi and Pacific Island groups, school trustees, faith-based educational organisations, and not-for-profit and for-profit management groups.”

              what are charter schools?

              i think the key is in the words “not-for-profit”. There are also “for profit management groups”, but as i said, i doubt there will be large profits and the majority will be not-for-proffit.

              • Draco T Bastard

                i thought putting words into other people mouths is a ban-able offence on this site.

                I didn’t put words in your mouth – I just translated what you said. And, yes, that is actually what you said once the full paragraph was taken into account.

                charter schools will receive per-pupil funding from the government just like regular state schools do

                If that was true then these schools wouldn’t be getting huge, upfront start-up costs covered by the government which they don’t have to pay back.

                i think the key is in the words “not-for-profit”.


                The owners of Sanitarium is a not-for-profit group but Sanitarium makes a huge profit.

              • Colonial Viper


                Another multinational millionaire funded right wing neoliberal economics think tank

                Fuck your K-Street kind and the horse you rode in on.

  2. herald cartoonist ‘nails’ my concerns about the banning of the rap-group… in..whose next..?

    phillip ure..

    • Tim 2.1

      Well legit refugees are next! They plan on putting them in a Fijian Jail – its the final solution

    • weka 2.2

      Methinks you missed the irony in that cartoon phil… “First they banned some misogynist thugs, and I did not object because I was not a misogynist thug.”

      “ in..whose next..?”

      Hopefully anyone else with a recent history of actively inciting violence and hatred against women.

      • phillip ure 2.2.1

        ah..well..if they need a permanent member of the banning-committee..

        ..i’m sure you’d be up for might even get a uniform..

        ..or at the very least..some epaulets and an insignia..

        ..and is there a little glow of self-satisfaction/mutual-back-slapping amongst you all..?

        ..’we sure stopped them..from performing..!’..

        ..and then..’who shall we target next..?..quick..!..someone get the gig-guide..!..and a song-lyrics website..!

        ..we’ll start in the sixties..and move forward from there..!..

        ..let’s set up an email-tree..!..’

        ..and you a green..?

        ..whoar..!.. that eco-fascist label does apply..?..

        .i always thought it was just a rightwing slur..

        ..and those stockings of yours are so very very blue..aren’t they..?

        ..for a green..

        ..phillip ure..

        • fender

          Bloody hell, forgot to have your morning bong?

          -Artistic freedom comes with responsibilities, it’s not a licence to be reckless-

          • phillip ure

            and which minor beaurucrat gets to decide what is ‘responsible’..

            ..and what is not not ‘reckless’..?

            ..(i mean..are you bloody listening to yrslf/ves..?..)

            phillip ure..

            • fender

              Inciting violence is reckless. Rappers using a concert and Twitter to urge fans to harass a woman who objected to their act is reckless.

              Keith was/is reckless with his own health. If immigration suspected he was going to traffic drugs into the country he may have been turned down also.

              If you have/are busted for possession of drugs the U.S. may deny you access to their shores.

              • “..Inciting violence is reckless..”

                the rolling stones:..streetfighting man..?

                “..the time is right for violent revolution..’

                a list of other artists as long as yr arm..

                ..phillip ure..

                • fender

                  You keep concentrating on lyrics, but immigration didn’t deny Odd Future entry because of their lyrics. The reasons given were <a href="">Inciting violence and for using a concert and Twitter to urge fans to harass a woman who objected to their act.

                  • stop trying to ‘egg’ it..

                    ..this was an exercise in moral-panic/censorship..

                    ..nothing more..

                    ..nothing less..

                    ..and the further the distance gets from it..

                    ..the more shabby it will seem..

                    ..and..who are you targeting next..?

                    ..and why didn’t you target eminem..?

           fucken hypocrites..!

                    ..phillip ure..

                    • fender


                      I now believe you when you (all too often) proudly state that you fried your brain with crack.

                    • @ fender..

                      ..really..?..that’s all you’ve got..?

                      ..slaggng me over my drug/crack-habits of 20 + yrs ago..?

                      ..oh well..that’s clearly you/this argument done and

                      ..a retreat into wholesale ad-hom always signifies that..

                      ..phil 1..fender zip..

                      ..(and..have a history of using/getting out of it’..on you..?..

             brain-damage there tho’

             blue-stockinged/book-burning hypocrite/!..)

                      ..phillip ure..

                    • fender

                      When you keep going off on a tangent and won’t consider the ACTUAL reasons immigration turned them down I’m left thinking you did fry your brain. What else should I think? You can’t read properly?

                      “..phil 1..fender zip..”

                      If it’s points you are looking for, here have 20, you want a gram with that?

                      Immigration had their reasons, they stated them. Accept their reasons or go fight the perceived injustice with them.

                    • as a final word to fender..

             and bad are as bad as the worst of the bottom-dwellers @ the kiwiblog-swamp..

                      ..and that shit you are so bravely slinging from yr positions of anonymity..

             just really splattering right back all over yr anonymous

             yr words..then go read the shit there..

                      ..and see how you would be so much more at home there..

                      ..there are so many more of yr sort..there..

                      ..and i did say that was a ‘final’ word..

             can now go and stand with bad in the fuck-off-corner..


             with him..

                      ..i can’t be bothered dealing with a fucken intellectual-vaccuum..

                      ..phillip ure..

                    • fender

                      “Final word”

                      Good, fuck off you idiot. McFlock summed you up perfectly last week when he called you a “sanctimonious prick”.

                      Wail-oil will be glad to have you around, someone more pig-headed than himself.

                    • bad12

                      Phillis, Phillis, wah wah wah, i describe you as having the intellect of a four year old below and you turn around and prove it,

                      One moment it’s ”wah wah wah you don’t play nice and i am now going to toss my toys and ignore you”,

                      Next???, you continue with your pointless diatribe in the comment above, the filthy smack head junkies curse, a rotten brain certainly has exhibited a growing case of this in yourself in the last couple of days,

                      Your drivel is as pointless as your whole life seems to have been…

                • i wonder what dave dobbyn thinks about all this..?

                  ..given his long record as an osr..


                  ..and how about those talking heads..?

                  ..’burning down the house’..(!)

         that isn’t an incitement to the young/dumb/impressionable to engage in serial-arson..

                  ..i’m a blue-stockinged-censor..!

                  ..i ban..therefore i am..?

                  ..phillip ure..

          • Ron

            But who decides the limits of that freedom or what is art for that matter

        • bad12

          Phillis, a four year old’s explanation of why we should be promoting violence???…

        • weka

          Wow, an actual, genuine invoking of Godwin’s Law and a slew of ad hominems in the absense of any addressing of the actual issues. And in the first reply no less. That’s pretty bad even by your standards phil.

          • bad12

            Phillis doesn’t address the ‘issue’, choosing instead to try and drag the ‘issue’ into a constantly moving panorama of whatever neurons happen to be creating that buzzing noise inside of His cranial cavity at any given point in time,

            Exactly the same as trying to have a debate with a four year old where the topic is above the child’s intellectual level, the twists and turns such a debate take are both hilarious and bizarre…

          • phillip ure

            screw yr ‘godwins’-law’..(that silencing false-construct/cliche)

   act like a book-burning fascist..

            ..and i’ll call you a book-burning fascist..

            ..and how is that lyrics-website ‘reckless–language search going..?

            ..or are they the only ones..?

            ..the rolling stones are coming soon..


            ..’holy rolling-stones ‘reckless’-lyrics..!..batman..!..”

            ..quick..! the email-tree…!

            ..and like i said before..and you a

            ..what is the green party position/policy on book-burning/banning of ‘reckless’-lyrics/lyricists..?

            ..or are you just a reactionary outlier in that party..?

            ..i bloody hope it’s the latter..

            phillip ure..

            • phillip ure

              didyaknow keith richards got busted for smuggling a load of smack into toronto..?

              ..and that he has been a ‘reckless’ role-model for impressionable young new zealanders..

              ..since forever..?

              ..where will you draw the ‘reckless’-line..?

              ..phillip ure..

  3. veutoviper 3

    I am looking forward to seeing this photo of the new Act leader and his wife on ACT party billboards in the lead-up to the general election

    Yesterday in the Herald’s Diary corporate box. Apparently the Diary (Rachel Glucina) had a separate box from the Herald’s main corporate box.

    And another great photo of “in people” in the Diary box at the Nines yesterday. Another one for billboards.

    • Rosie 3.1

      veutoviper, those images are a disturbing start to the day, over toast and coffee. Especially photo number two which made me almost choke on a crumb as I gasped in horror.

      • JanM 3.1.1

        They look made for each other, don’t they

        • Rosie

          two peas in a pod…………..

          • Tiger Mountain

            The horror! WhaleSpew and Pullyer Benefit.

            ACT has a real talent for off publicity pics, “Hillary’s Eyes” on the brothel billboard and John Boscawen balancing a lammington on his bonce and now another shaved bump head as leader to make a gruesome set with “Hideolini”.

          • JanM


      • veutoviper 3.1.2

        Sorry, Rosie. I really felt the need to record these photos for posterity – and possible other uses in the months to come.

        It is a slight follow-on to a discussion some of us (including Karol, Murray Olsen) had over the weekend on the ‘interesting’ bubble of MSM journalists and others that have ongoing interaction on Twitter – some of which is very revealing in respect of sources of information, allegiances etc and biases of The Herald for example. This included discussion on Glucina (The Herald’s gossip columnist) being the one to first publish Norman’s and Peters’ visits to KDC.

        My comment on that thread which included the fact that Judith Collins and Nikki Kaye had been in Glucina’s Diary corporate box on Satureday is here

        John Key, Blogsters and the Dotcom leaks

        Glucina’s Twitter account also includes photos of Collins and Kaye in the box on Saturday.

        But the two photos I posted today are much more mind-blowing.

        • bad12

          Have to giggle at the little bio at the top of Rachel’s Twits page, buried in the middle is this little gem,”No special Talent”,

          A perfect epithet for the majority of the Heralds Jonolists, ”No special Talents” should be the motto of what has become an in-august purveyor of sleaze with the inclusion of ”Rachel”,

          So, Slippery and the National Party Ministers now have besides ‘wail oils’ Blubber boy another source with which to have filth injected into the political discourse, very convenient for this election year,

          The danger here for National is that the Wellington rumor mill does and always has fits and starts of ‘hot gossip’ over various MP’s indiscretions very little of which sees the light of day and becoming quickly overtaken by the next piece of salacious gossip,

          If the Herald wants to have a gossip columnist run a National Party ‘dirt’ campaign on it’s opposition then it runs the risk of having all the filth of who is up who and who is not paying splashed all over Wellington in poster form…

          • Tim

            “If the Herald wants to have a gossip columnist run a National Party ‘dirt’ campaign on it’s opposition then it runs the risk of having all the filth of who is up who and who is not paying splashed all over Wellington in poster form…”

            That’s true! A few are already thinking along the lines of another Manners Mall “Pants on Fire” approach. The Natzis should really start thinking whether or not their dirt campaign is worth it – given their various pieces of dirty linen.
            … but then they really are so arrogant, and believe they have an entire state apparatus under their control, they might try it on.

            I bet the likes of Boger, McKinnon and various others (I think it was mentioned in passing somewhere on another thread a while ago) are starting to think they’re well out of the cesspit that the National Party has become.

        • karol

          Looking at your comment on the Blogsters thread, veto.

          My choice of words re Key “throwing Slater to the wind” – note I wrote “wind” not wolves. It was risky, but clearly Key would prefer to talk about that rather than his role in surveillance activities. Putting it out on the “wind” means it is left to float about without knowing where it will land or the consequences – could disappear from sight, or it could result in lasting damage to Key.

          • veutoviper

            With you, Karol. My “time will tell” was meant along the same lines as you say – will it disappear from sight or will it result in lasting damage to Key. My money is on is the latter. Slater is such a wild card, that this could all backfire badly.

            I wasted more time as a voyeur on Twitter last night and there are a number of MSM journalists whose noses are out of joint as a result of (a) Glucina, a gossip columnist, scooping them on the Peters’ etc visits; and (b) Key stating that he talks with Slater regularly. Not a good move by Key to put these people offside.

            Glucina and Slater have not been good friends in the past (to put it mildly) and this is well documented, so their apparently good relationship now is a subject of discussion/derision on the Twitter bubble, particularly with Slater’s attendance in the Diary corporate box yesterday. Apparently Glucina has been a long time supporter of Key and they also talk. And so it goes on,

            It all feels like an ongoing soap opera – leaving one wondering what surprises, twists etc this week’s episodes will bring.

            • karol

              Life and politics is indeed often like a soap opera.

              The Glucina-Key link is an interesting one – and it is “neoliberal” to the core.

              The thing about the whole “neoliberal” revolution in the 1980s and beyond, is that it has been cleverly multi-pronged: changing the centre of politics, as well as wider discourses,values and attitudes via the news media, education system, the entertainment media, etc.

              They intensified or increased the whole infotainment thing – so news became more entertaining, but also, so that”neoliberal” values became more firmly embeded within entertainment generally.

              • veutoviper

                Indeed, indeed.

                Have a vet appointment soon (one of my dogs, not me) but will search out the Key-Glucina link again when I return.

                Re the whole infotainment thing – personality politics is part and parcel of this; and links in with my discourse with Disreali Gladstone further down this thread.

                Must go for now…

        • Rosie

          No need to apologise veutoviper 🙂

          You alert us to these disturbing images in the name of service to the Greater Good. I didn’t get a chance to read that article that you linked to, but read your comments and had a squizz at the twit photo’s posted by this Glucina person. (I also don’t go anywhere near the Herald so your explanations are helpful to me)

          But more disturbing than the images alone is the links, bonds/ relationships between media and government ministers, politicians, whale yuck etc in a social setting and taking note of who will be pulling the strings. If those images are shamelessly available for all to see, exactly what is going on behind closed doors? These people need flushing out and their agenda’s exposed!

          Have to say, I have much admiration and respect for Madeleine Sami and wondered what of earth she was doing hanging out with such horrid people. Hopefully she is just gathering new comedy material for the next series of Super City.

    • Chooky 3.2

      wife looks nice..(.like her expression )…..not sure about the Cambridge educated import (to try and revive dead horse ACT)

      lol….Bennett and Slater ….another lovely couple…. NACT look like a refined middle class lot ….NOT.( more like a bunch of crooks and con artists)

      • Tim 3.2.1

        Targets for ridicule on so many levels ….
        – the Nouveau Riche
        – the Plagiarists
        – the Slutty Moles
        – the Holier than Thou
        – Bad Taste (from whatever/whichever ‘class’ you have an affinity with)
        – the Movers and Shakers liable to be embarassed by a slug’s presence on a Blue Rinse cocktail circuit.
        – a couple of excuses for Chris Finlayson to prove hisself down with the dirty and normal (a la ‘some of my best friends are Murrays)

        …… on so many levels.

        Slop is slop when it comes down to it – no matter how it’s served up – no matter how much paprika is applied

    • Disraeli Gladstone 3.3

      What’s wrong with the first photo?

      Looks like Whyte and his wife are having fun and are a loving couple. OH NO HOW TERRIBLE BECAUSE THEY DON’T SHARE MY POLITICS!

      • fender 3.3.1

        Nothing wrong with it, the Rodney Hide likeness is appropriate.

        As for the second photo of Bennett and Slater? I’m wondering WHY anyone would want to stand close to Slater, he’s toxic. Is he blackmailing MP’s in order to get photographed with them? Mixing with such a disgusting creep should be damaging politically surely..

        • Disraeli Gladstone

          What I don’t get is people seem to -like- Slater. I can understand a politician thinking he’s useful (a la Key), but people like Collins and Bennett seems to enjoy his company.

          … and as an understatement, he doesn’t seem like a particularly nice person.

          • fender

            “… and as an understatement, he doesn’t seem like a particularly nice person.”

            I agree wholeheartedly.

            As an aside, I feel sorry for John Boscawen, if only he had agreed to shave his head…

          • Murray Olsen

            Collins and Bennett like Blubber Boy because they think the same way he does, using intellectual equipment of pretty much the same potency. Keith Holyoake wouldn’t recognise the NAct of today.

      • veutoviper 3.3.2

        Whyte and his wife probably are a loving couple and having fun.

        But politics 101 – if you want to be taken seriously as a politician concerned with the weightier matters of politics, don’t put yourself in a position where a photo like that is taken and freely available (eg via social media).

        • Disraeli Gladstone

          Boris Johnson has become the most popular politician in the UK solely because he ignored that so called rule you just made up. And it’s not to do with his policies because they’re bluer than anything post-Thatcher. No, it’s because he seems jovial and real and does stupid shit (all planned though no one knows).

          Similarly, the most popular politician in NZ (John Key) also has been photographed and filmed doing stupid shit and if anything became more popular for it because he seems like the ordinary Kiwi.

          Your rule is bad and you should feel bad. Whyte can be the philosopher king on policy and look like a fool having fun with his wife and probably do just fine.

          And by just fine, I mean probably stop ACT from dying for one more election by 0.1% of the vote.

          • veutoviper

            Well DG, you may believe in and support personality politics – I don’t. IMO personality politics ares shallow and dangerous, as indicated by the inciduous undermining of democracy and the real role of government in both NZ and the UK as a result of the focus on personalities, rather than issues.

            In actual fact, I quite like what I have read of Whyte and his wife – a breath of fresh air. But my instincts are that that will be his downfall, and that he will not be long in political world as a result. Fresh air and openness such as that expressed by Whyte to date rarely survives the cut and thrust of politics.

            As for “Your rule is bad and you should feel bad”, LOL. How old are you? 8 years old sprung to mind. It is actually quite good advice, and I don’t feel bad.

            • Disraeli Gladstone

              Oh, I don’t approve of personality politics. There’s a difference between approving it and noticing that it does seem to work.

              I find it amusing you think one single photo of him sticking his tongue out will be his downfall. Not wanting to repeal all employment laws, nope, just this photo.

              And “your _ is bad and you should feel bad” is a reference that is now 11 years old. So if I was 8, I wouldn’t even have been born when it entered internet discourse.

              • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                “Oh, I don’t approve of personality politics. There’s a difference between approving it and noticing that it does seem to work.”

                And there is a difference between noticing that it does seem to work and condoning it by calling it ‘good politics’.

                Please see my response to this linked comment if you wish to know what I think of that attitude

                • Disraeli Gladstone

                  Your entire response to that comment is flawed with: “Because it gets who you want into power?”

                  I’m currently going to vote Labour, albeit reluctantly. Probably. Maybe… I don’t know. I’m a floating voter.

                  That’s doesn’t change the fact that it’s “good politics” (in a strategical sense). It’s bad governance, policy, humanity, but if politics is a contest to win the election, it’s good politics.

                  Politics isn’t some high-minded ideal. I wish it was. But it never will be. Democracy isn’t designed in a way to punish people who practice the Dark Arts.

                  Francis Urquhart will always be there in politics.

                  • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                    Hmm it appears that in your definition of ‘politics’ – a type of strategy without regard for the effects that strategy has on the system – it would be ‘good politics’ for example, for you to say that you were ‘reluctantly voting for Labour’ when in fact you have no such intention – rather it is just something for you to say so that people think you are somewhat ‘on their side’ and remain more receptive to your comments.

                    “Politics isn’t some high minded ideal”

                    Well clearly not according to you, yet you and I both experience the direct benefits right now and every day from those who in the past have acted politically with some high-minded ideals in mind – so I don’t think it is very high minded of you to dismiss such a notion out of hand.

                    • Disraeli Gladstone

                      This isn’t politics.

                      This is merely discussion. This isn’t some argument. I can’t win. I don’t get a prize for besting you all in debate. Money doesn’t sprout from my computer screen.

                      Gosh, this has gotten awfully silly.

                    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                      This is politics
                      It is a discussion about politics

                      What is so ‘awfully silly’?

                      That I suggest you might pay the type of political games that you say you don’t like yet appear to think effective?

                      Or that I imply politics can be about high-minded ideals by suggesting that we experience benefits from those who followed high-minded ideals in the past?

                      I guess you were simply referring to your notion of being denied a prize and money spouting from your computer screen.

      • Chooky 3.3.3

        @ DG….is NACT now going for the Polynesian vote?

        wife looks genuine tongue sticking out ….Cambridge import is trying to mirror her expression


        • Disraeli Gladstone

          Well, that’s a nice side of casual racism to start the week off with.

          • Chooky

            @ DG You can try and frame it as racism …”Weird” and “SUSPICIOUS” are better words!

            It is very WEIRD ….this UK Cambridge philosopher import…suddenly jetted in and INSERTED into NZ politics to rack up support for the dying/dead horse Neo Lib ACT Party….and SUSPICIOUS!

            ACT’s revival which in turn John Keys National Party depends on to be re-elected…

            (especially as Key has been caught continually spying on Winston … illegally? and certainly illegitimately…..Winston who wont be going into coalition with Key after this violation of his privacy)

            ….very weird and suspicious goings on

            • Disraeli Gladstone

              You’re lumping in different cultures (Mrs Whyte is west African) and Polynesian and saying that Mrs Whyte looked genuine. The assertion in your comment being that sticking your tongue out and having darker skin than a Caucasian is all you need to do to look genuinely Polynesian.

              Which is offensive on several different levels.

              So yeah, I’m going to call you out for the racism.

              • Hayden

                You’re lumping in different cultures (Mrs Whyte is west African) and Polynesian and saying that Mrs Whyte looked genuine. The assertion in your comment being that sticking your tongue out and having darker skin than a Caucasian is all you need to do to look genuinely Polynesian.

                Well, he or she could mean that they appear to be going for the Pūkana in a misguided attempt to ingratiate themselves.

              • Chooky

                you are an idiot DG….i stick out my tongue a lot ( as a sign of disrespect to authority…usually behind their backs ) and I have Maori ancestry ….so dont project your British Oxford / Cambridge colonialist put down ‘racist’ crap on me!( …..poking tongue out to you at present time)…get worried when Maori turn their backs to you , lift up their skirts and bare their buttocks ….and …give you a great big BROWN EYE!

                …i was just as saying she looked real and comfortable sticking out her tongue and he didnt…nothing racist about it !

                ….and I still think it is weird and suspicious him jetting in from UK Cambridge … try and revive the NZ political dead horse ACT!

        • Murray Olsen

          They could be copying the Warriors logo.

    • David H 3.4

      Man a warning Please on the second pic. Slater and Pullyer benefit. AArrggggggggg

  4. Tracey 4

    Good time to remind people

    bill english…

    ” effectively acknowledge that Michael Cullen had done something right in his stewardship of the Government’s finances in the past nine years.

    Having condemned his predecessor for many years for paying off debt too quickly, English said: “I want to stress that New Zealand starts from a reasonable position in dealing with the uncertainty of our economic outlook.”

    “In New Zealand we have room to respond. This is the rainy day that Government has been saving up for,” he told reporters at the Treasury briefing on the state of the economy and forecasts.

    English pointed to a graph of the debt track since 1972 and projected five years out from today.

    The recent low was 17 per cent of GDP and the ghastly projection for 2013 is 33.1 per cent and possibly worse, under what Treasury calls a “downside scenario” – 38.6 per cent.

    Unemployment is forecast to rise to 6.4 per cent in 2010 and deficits forecast to be $2.4 billion to $3.5 billion larger over the 2010 to 2013 years than forecast just before the election.

    In the midst of the horrible outlook and depressing uncertainty about how bad it might get, English was forced to change his message about his inheritance from Labour because it was more important to inject some sense of positivity into the situation. He needed to do it for both political reasons and for real financial reasons.

    As Labour finance spokesman David Cunliffe said yesterday, too much negativity could drive confidence down even further.

    Of the plan that Cunliffe demanded of English today, the Finance Minister said: “The plan in essence is quite simple, that is to maintain significant short-term stimulus in the economy, to protect people from the sharp edge of recession and secondly to get on with the job of raising our longer term growth prospects…with some urgency.”

    Tax cuts are on the way; decisions will be made in the New Year on which infrastructure projects will be brought forward and English and Prime Minister John Key will be meeting chief executives of Government departments this afternoon to give them the bad news: don’t ask for any more money in Budget 2009 because you won’t get it.”

  5. CC 5

    What? The oil and gas industry mounting a travelling rogue’s show???

    • Pasupial 5.1


      What oil and gas industry traveling rogue’s show?

      But talking of such rogues [quotes from ODT link below]:

      Two boats, a 14m commercial fishing vessel and a smaller pleasure boat, both draped with banners from pro-drilling group ProGas Otago, sat just off St Clair Beach while an anti-drilling protest was held on the beach. The Otago Surfing Championships and Otago Surf Life Saving Championships were also being held nearby.

      It is understood that while the boats were there surf life-savers received unconfirmed reports from surfers there was something in the water and that fish guts were being thrown from the boats, which surfers were concerned could attract sharks.

      Witnesses saw surf life-savers speak to the men on the boats, the larger of which was shortly afterwards seen doing what witnesses described as ”donuts” in the water. When contacted, Grant Godbaz, secretary of the South Coast Boardriders Association, which was hosting the Otago Surfing Championships, said the incident was a ”recipe for disaster”.

      He said the boat did its turns within about 20m of surfers, who were genuinely concerned for their safety.

    • Rosie 5.2

      CC, The news that NZ Oil and Gas are doing tours of classroom’s in Taranaki?

  6. floyd 6

    Just watched paul henry enabling john key in a supposed talk about policies of 2014. You can see why they got henry back on. Nothing of any consequence but strictly to make key look good. “Yup, I did just say yup to obama”. God give me strength. What a tragic puff piece. I had read a romantic homage to key by prebble who stated that key didn’t talk about anything political while on golf course but here key is saying he did discuss some issues. They need to get on the same song sheet. Also tragic simon bridges trying to be belittling and sneering about Green’s policy of solar power on houses. Doesn’t work, he just looks and sounds silly trotting out the standard unoriginal “just printing money” snigger. However he is good for a chuckle.

  7. Jim in Tokyo 7

    David Sirota has a big expose on public broadcasting in the US:

    American billionaires are flooding PBS and NPR with “documentaries” with titles like “Pension Peril” and “Unintended Consequences: Evils of the Welfare System”.

    millions of unsuspecting viewers wholly unaware that the PBS “reporting” they are watching is not objective news, but instead an ideological advertisement funded by a billionaire trying to manipulate public policy

    And that’s public tv ….

  8. ianmac 8

    Funny that Trolls have disturbing Psychological problems. The trolls who visit this site sort of fit some profiles. Read all about it!

    • Rosie 8.1

      +1 ianmac. The psychological study of trolling is interesting indeed. Nice tie in with topic du jour of Supreme Troll whale oil and photo op’s with people that really shouldn’t be seen with him, if decency prevailed – which clearly it doesn’t in Camp Gnat.

  9. bad12 9

    Laughs out loud from this mornings ‘Matty and Mike show’ on Nine to Noon this morning, the final word went to Hooton,

    ”Russell Normans just announced policy is a good one”, that should have the Beehives 9th floor apoplectic with rage, more than one of this mornings lamington’s may have become a deadly device seemingly designed as a tool of aphyxsiation by a terrorist organization despicably disguised as the local tuck shop,

    What tittilation of angst, anger, or, arrogance will the spin-meisters of the 9th floor try this week to try and regain the political initiative from the Opposition,

    Bridges effort last night via the TV3News was akin to the little child lost in the wilderness beseeching calling for His mummy,

    ”Its printing money”, ”its printing money” simply proving to the Sunday night audience that Slippery the Prime Minister isn’t lacking for competition when it comes to having a vast area of vacant space upstairs in the cranial cavity…

    • ianmac 9.1

      Yep saw Bridges. I thought he might be a bit drunk as his weird accent seemed even weirder. Subsidy indeed? National have given $30mil to Rio, millions to Skycity, and millions for the Green’s house insulation scheme, millions in subsidy to the Film Industry and according to Matthew millions to the meat industry very recently. Hypocrisy is rampant.

  10. Tiger Mountain 10

    John Key t shirt

  11. SHG (not Colonial Viper) 11

    Articles about Cameron Slater on the front page right now: 5
    Plus one about the Herald featuring a photo of Cameron Slater

    He’s got to be loving this!

  12. Penny Bright 12

    You won’t read this on ‘The Daily Blog’! 🙂

    #11 by Penny Bright

    How many people know that the Auditor-General Lyn Provost is a SHAREHOLDER in Sky City?

    Deputy Auditor-General’s overview

    Inquiry into the Government’s decision to negotiate with SkyCity Entertainment Group Limited for an international convention centre.


    1: The Auditor-General has a small shareholding in SkyCity so she has not been involved in this inquiry.

    New Zealand Auditor-General Lyn Provost fails to disclose this rather significant ‘conflict of interest’ when I ask her to conduct an urgent inquiry into the failure of OFCANZ to do ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the NZ International Convention Centre Bill:

    On 21 November 2013

    I have received your email and will consider your request.
    Lyn Provost

    21 November 2013

    I want an URGENT investigation by the OAG into the failure of OFCANZ to do ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the NZ International Convention Centre Bill (not sure if it yet has Royal Assent).

    This Treasury reply confirms that OFCANZ come under Police – which are a ‘Public Entity’.

    18 Inquiries by Auditor-General

    (1)The Auditor-General may inquire, either on request or on the Auditor-General’s own initiative, into any matter concerning a public entity’s use of its resources.


    On 31 January 2014, I received this reply from New ZealandAuditor-General Lyn Provost, to my question ‘are you still a shareholder in Sky City’:


    There is no change in position from June 2012.

    Lyn Provost

    Lyn Provost, Controller and Auditor-General
    Office of the Auditor-General Te Mana Arotake
    Level 2, 100 Molesworth Street, Thorndon, Wellington 6011
    PO Box 3928, Wellington 6140

    Again – file under – ‘You Couldn’t Make This Sh*t Up’!

    Please note that there will be a LOT more to come on this matter….

    Penny Bright

    (For more exposure on the role of the Auditor-General in propping up the bogus Transparency International NZ – have a look at this – )

  13. captain hook 13

    I read that donkeyotey referrred to Kiwis in Oz as guest workers and reciprocal pensions as nice to haves.
    Well he might as well realise that he is just a guest prime ministrer and will be a nice to have get gone.
    And as soon as the smart people in the National party realise that key and slater and the rest are the precursors to a gangster state then the sooner the country can get back to business.

  14. greywarbler 14

    I was thinking about likes and buttons under the comments and thought that I couldn’t see their value here. But I thought again and put a para in one of my random comments. I’ll put it here so it might get counted in the thinking on this.

    Perhaps we do need ‘likes’ for the comments, so that those who do the work and present information, know that they have been looked at and the work read and absorbed, and importantly that interest has been taken, even if no-one feels it is necessary to respond with a plus, an icon or a comment.

    • lprent 14.1

      I’ll have a look around for one that I can configure to show likes only.

      I also have to make sure that it doesn’t cause too much extra load on the database server. Caching in the memcache and/or the database query cache would be the ideal.

      • greywarbler 14.1.1

        Thanks lprent There were quite a few comments for and against which I understand but have decided that what you suggested above would be justified, would need numbers I think though.
        And that’s really all that is needed, a button that increases number of ‘reads’. That count would be feedback and encouraging for those trying to add to our spectrum of knowledge input.

      • Tracey 14.1.2

        can you do number of times viewed? I’m guessing not cos that’s just the page, no way of telling for each post?

      • Flip 14.1.3

        I thought I wanted likes/dislikes but after looking at some other sites it did influence my view of what I read negatively so changed my mind. Likes would be good though.

        Do not know if this is easy but collapsable trees for threads would be good. Like Thunderbird has for e-mail conversations. Makes it easier to follow a particular thread and comment on the right one. The numbering is useful to a point but fails once a thread gets long.

        • Bill

          What does like or like/dislike do for any conversation? I couldn’t give a fuck if somebody ‘likes’ something I’m saying – I want to know their thoughts on the matter in question.

          And if there’s no response, then either everyone reading it agrees….everyone reading it thinks it’s bullshit/unrelated or whatever….or nobody’s reading it. Doesn’t really matter which of those scenarios is the accurate one on any given comment, does it?

          edit example – Joe90 doesn’t tend to attract follow up comment, but from the occasions that they do, it’s probably reasonable to assume a fair few people click through to the links provided.

          • Flip

            “What does like or like/dislike do for any conversation?”

            Agree it does nothing for the conversation but what I was saying is it did something to me as a reader and I did not like what it did.

            Likes are something I’d only use to agree with the comment. Other people may use them differently so may not be useful.

  15. Molly 15

    Just a heads up if anyone is interested in attending a lecture from Natalie Nicholles – an economics consultant from NEF – New Economics Foundation (London).

    Auckland Council is hosting her talk within the Auckland Conversations programme, and it is free to attend. Just register on their site. Wed 26th Feb, Town Hall @ 5.30pm.

    NEF tagline is “Economics as if people and the planet mattered”. Some of their publications have been discussed on The Standard in the past.

    Update: Event is full, waitlist is all you get now.

    • Colonial Viper 15.1

      Seems like there is a hunger for something which is not neoliberal.

      Why are our political parties avoiding that fact like the plague?

      • Tracey 15.1.1

        Possibly because they are so entrenched and so dependent on the status quo, economically speaking, that they genuinely think it’s best, for them. 😉

    • Tracey 15.2

      will be good to read any released paper?

    • Tracey 15.3

      thanks for the link. read some of the site and have bookmarker it. liked this. how refreshing

      We believe that everyone seeking to influence public policy has a duty to be open about how they are funded. nef is proud to have been awarded the highest rating for funding transparency by the Who Funds You campaign.

      nef’s total income for 2011/12 was £3,286,061. It was derived from 3 sources:
      1. Major Grants and Donations

      Tubney Charitable Trust – £400,000
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      Network for Social Change – £155,172
      AIM Foundation – £135,000
      European Commission – £133,603
      Freshfield Foundation – £109,280
      Paul Hamlyn Foundation – £92,000
      The Ford Foundation and the Villum Foundation, through a partnership with Stakeholder Forum for a Sustainable Future – £79,540
      NESTA and the Cabinet Office – £77,625
      The Tudor Trust – £77,400
      People’s Health Trust – £67,500
      OAK Foundation Ltd – £62,000
      The City Bridge Trust – £40,000
      Social Care Institute for Excellence – £35,160
      Barrow Cadbury Trust – £34,000
      New Economics Institute – £32,300
      LankellyChase Foundation – £30,000
      The Royal Academy of Engineering – £25,393
      Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation – £24,500
      R H Southern Trust – £23,000
      Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister – £20,863
      Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust – £20,000
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      We would also like to thank the Roddick Foundation for a generous and completely unrestricted grant.
      2. Individual Supporters

      Our individual supporters gave a total of £121,860 this year. No individual gave more than £5,000.
      3. Earned income

      For over 25 years nef has pioneered social, economic and environmental measurement. Our expertise enables us to generate additional income through consultancy services in impact evaluation and organisational development for charities, the public sector and businesses. Much of this work is carried out by our wholly-owned social enterprise, nef consulting. These contracts do not affect our research and advocacy agenda.

  16. joe90 16

    The disaster you’ve probably never heard of.

    The drought, Brazil’s worst in decades, is a catastrophe.

    In economic terms, it was the fourth-worst natural disaster to hit the planet last year, costlier than even the western United States drought, for a total cost of almost $9 billion, according to insurance analyst Aon Benfield, which researches natural disasters worldwide.

    And in much of the region it’s ongoing.

    • Tracey 16.1

      It doesnt matter cos they have the football world cup and then the Olympics. That will MAKE them money to deal with a drought, right?

      • Colonial Viper 16.1.1

        I wonder if you can you drink electronically created currency units? Can cattle or corn drink up electronically created currency units?

        Hence the suicidal insanity of destroying our natural world in the pursuit of electronically created currency units.

      • miravox 16.1.2

        “It doesnt matter cos they have the football world cup and then the Olympics. That will MAKE them money to deal with a drought, right?”

        Yup. I reckon the World Cup and Olympics will do for Brazil the same as what the Olympics did for Greece’s financial security.

    • weka 16.2

      I wonder how much of the water shortage is due to industrial agriculture.

      • Colonial Viper 16.2.1

        That, climate change and the massive terraforming associated with human activity (incl industrial agriculture).

      • Murray Olsen 16.2.2

        Not much of it, weka. The area called the sertão has had droughts since forever. There are aquifers, but unless you’re a local politician, you don’t have the money to get at the water. When you fly over that area, you see brown with a few lush patches now and then. That’s how you know where the local “colonels” live. There’s not much agroindustry in that area, which is the Northeast of Brazil. The agroindustry is in the South, Southeast, and Central West of the country. Even further north, near the Amazon rainforest, the farming has not really been industrialised. They clear the forest and plant for a couple of years before it loses all the nutrients.

        What is new is that the PT (Worker’s Party) trucks in some water, so that at least the people survive. Despite all their problems, they have lifted many people out of absolute poverty. This is why I have no time for anyone who says they are just the same as the other parties.

        There is some evidence that climate change is making the droughts worse, but the sertão has not been terraformed. It’s basically like it was 200 years ago.

        Thanks for posting that joe90. It was funny hearing the rural accent of the Northeast again. Last time I was there, I looked at raising some money to put a well down in one of the villages, but I wasn’t successful. Maybe one day.

  17. logie97 17

    Cast your mind back, if you are able, to the era B.NACT (Before NACT).
    You know, the period that English lauded for its good financial management.

    It was also the period when the RWNJ’s were decrying MMP for installing a government dog being wagged by its tail.

    So we get Charter Schools. I cannot recall the philosophy being shouted from the rooftops by any of the 58 National MPs. In fact the movement belonged entirely to ACT. Yet, it would appear, their one mp, the soon to be disgraced Banks, has Hekia Parata and Key so tightly by the fuzzies that she and some of her cronies appear to believe that the schools are the best thing since sliced bread…

    • Chooky 17.1

      @ logie 97….not so much Banks as private PR company lobbyists…..Catherine Isaacs (former Roger Kerr and what was the Round Table) in cahoots with USA business interests…this is what ACT is all about …overseas business interests that want to get their reptilian pincers into New Zealand and its assets

  18. mary wilson is chopping colin craig into little tiny wee pieces..

    ..(for his hypocrisies..) almost feel sorry for him..(i did say ‘almost’..)

    phillip ure..

  19. fender 19

    < a href=””>Colin Craig launches legal action

    ‘Craig’s complaint relates to Norman suggesting Craig thinks that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and a gay man’s place is in the closet.’

    Norman forgot to mention Craig wants to hit kids also.

    • BM 19.1

      Bad last couple of weeks for the Ocker

      Serious mutterings must be going on within the green party about Normans performance as leader.

      The dot com stupidity and now this, I have a feeling some one may be out the back sharpening the axe.

      • Zorr 19.1.1

        uh huh

        Or maybe Colin Craig is trying to stay relevant the only way he knows how – by jumping in to the mud and shouting “Look at me!” because he has nothing substantive to add

        • BM

          I think it’s the right thing to do, Craig’s being discriminated against by the certain factions of left because he’s a Christian.
          Unless he jumps on it, the left will keep pushing the he’s a Christian therefore he’s homophobic and a misogynist, which in all probability is blatant lie.

          I’d say Craig is pretty pissed with Norman trying to drag his name through the mud, which is why he’s taking action.

          Russell needs to engage his brain before opening his mouth, expensive mistake to make for the Ocker.

          • North

            Well if you’d heard Colin Craig talking to Mary Wilson on Checkpoint this afternoon you’d know that his resolve to pursue Russel Norman is because apparently Norman has been saying things that will make people “feel negatively” about him. Provoking negative feelings ? Hardly, indeed decidedly not, actionable. Is this a Judith Collins stunt which like hers re Little and Mallard will be played and played then dropped effectively ? Probably right up to the election for the playing and thereafter for the dropping ?

          • millsy

            All Christians are homophobes, etc.

            Norman is just telling the truth,

            If the god botherers had their way, homosexuals would be liquidated en masse.

        • ianmac

          Colin might be aiming for his audience who believe the same way that Colin is alleged to believe. Perfect Conservative Party Platform.

      • McFlock 19.1.2

        You seem to be getting that feeling a lot, lately.

        Given that a court case would be good news for norman on purely political grounds, might I suggest that you’re simply projecting the worries you have for the polished turd we have as pm? Much of the glitter is falling off.

        I mean, if you thought that the opposition leaders weren’t a threat to the government, you’d be gloating about how sad it was that they are the best labgrn have to choose leaders from. But by trying to foment infighting and paranoia, you’re just conceding that the election is in doubt for wee Johnny no-Mates.

    • Chooky 19.2


  20. Morrissey 20


    No. 40: Colin Craig

    “I’m interested in raising the level of debate.”

    —Moon-landing denier, kiddy-whacker and gay-baiter COLIN CRAIG, speaking to Mary Wilson Checkpoint, Radio NZ National, Monday 17 February 2014, 5:20 p.m.

    More liars….
    No. 39 George W. Bush: “We will be standing with the people of Afghanistan and Iraq until their hopes for freedom and liberty are fulfilled.”
    No. 38 Jeremy Hansen: “I read a great column by Paul Thomas in the Herald….”
    No. 37 Alan Seay: “You know, we respect the rights of people to protest….”
    No. 36 Paul Dykzeul: “No we won’t be changing the Listener; it’s got a terrific editor….”
    No. 35 Mark Jennings: “I think Paul’s a bright guy and he will be able to bring a discipline to his performance….”
    No. 34 Willie Jackson: “I thought we’d been sensitive with her yesterday….”
    No. 33 Supt. Bill Searle: “I think what’s happened here is the police officers have done their very best….”
    No. 32 Sonny-Bill Williams: “It’s good to get the win over Papua-New Guinea, a strong Papua-New Guinea side, aahhhh….”
    No. 31 John Palino: “Suggestions that I am somehow orchestrating some grand right-wing conspiracy to unseat Len after the election are so wrong…”
    No. 30 Alan Dershowitz: “I will give $10,000 to the PLO if you can find a historical fact in my book that you can prove to be false.”
    No. 29 John Banks: “I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear. And never, ever would I ever knowingly sign a false electoral return. Never ever would I ever.”

    No. 28 John Kerry: “…we are especially sensitive, Chuck and I, to never again asking any member of Congress to take a vote on faulty intelligence.”
No. 27 Lyse Doucet: “I am there for those without a voice.”
No. 26 Sam Wallace: “So here we are—Otahuhu. It’s just a great place to be, really.”

    No. 25 Margaret Thatcher: “…no British government involvement of any kind…with Khmer Rouge…”

    No. 24 John Key: “…at the end of the day I, like most New Zealanders, value the role of the fourth estate…”

No. 23 Jay Carney: “…expel Mr Snowden back to the U.S. to face justice…”

No. 22 Mike Bush: “Bruce Hutton had integrity beyond reproach.”

No. 21 Tim Groser: “I think the relationship is genuinely in outstanding form.”

No. 20 John Key: “But if the question is do we use the United States or one of our other partners to circumvent New Zealand law then the answer is categorically no.”

No. 19 Matthew Hooton: “It is ridiculous to say that unions deliver higher wages! They DON’T!”

    No. 18 Ant Strachan: “The All Blacks won the RWC 2011 because of outstanding defence!”

    No. 17 Stephen Franks: “Peter has been such a level-headed, safe pair of hands.”

    No. 16 Phil Kafcaloudes: “Tony Abbott…hasn’t made any mistakes over the past eighteen months.”

    No. 15 Donald Rumsfeld: “I did not lie… Colin Powell did not lie.”

No. 14 Colin Powell: “a post-9/11 nexus between Iraq and terrorist organizations…connections are now emerging…”
No. 13 Barack Obama: “Simply put, these strikes have saved lives.”

No. 12 U.K. Ministry of Defence: “Protecting the Afghan civilian population is one of ISAF and the UK’s top priorities.”

No. 11 Brendan O’Connor: “Australia’s approach to refugees is compassionate and generous.”

    No. 10 Boris Johnson: “Londoners have… the best police in the world to look after us and keep us safe.”

No. 9 NewstalkZB PR dept: “News you NEED! Fast, fair, accurate!”

No. 8 Simon Bridges: “I don’t mean to duck the question….”

    No. 7 Nigel Morrison: “Quite frankly, they’ve been VERY tough.”

    No. 6 Herald PR dept: “Congratulations—you’re reading New Zealand’s best newspaper.”

    No. 5 Rawdon Christie: “…a FORMIDABLE replacement, it seems, is Claudette Hauiti.”

No. 4 Willie and J.T.: “The X-Factor. Nah, nah, there’s some GREAT talent there!”

No. 3 John Key: “Yeah we hold MPs to a higher standard.”

No. 2 Colin Craig: “Oh, I have a GREAT sense of humour.”

    No. 1 Barack Obama: “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great champions of freedom and liberty.”

  21. Tigger 21

    Craig’s defamation suit is further proof his party will sink at these elections. Far worse will be said about him further down the track and if he’s going to take umbrage at things like that then wait till the politicians and media really start attacking him.

    Which leaves Key’s coalition hydra short one head.

    • McFlock 21.1

      the thing is, craig can either win or lose.
      Norman can either win or lose.

      If norman loses, craig looks petty and norman takes a wee hit in the polls, but craigs a dick so not too much of a hit.

      If craig loses, he looks even nuttier and norman’s opinions are seen to be confirmed (even though that might not be the actual determination of the case).

      And then there’s the fact that craig is now a politician, which raises his case’s difficulty level.

      • Zorr 21.1.1

        I think it’s one of those situations where Norman can’t lose – because no matter what happens, he is only alienating the extreme right with his stated view of Colin Craig. It shouldn’t affect Green Party support whatsoever and only serves to highlight the rabid foaming attack poodle that is Colin Craig.

  22. captain hook 22

    is colin craig constipated or does he have trouble with his y-fronts and his zipper. anyway to quote that old kids rhyme he should jump into the closet three times and only come out twice!

  23. Yossarian 23

    Come on, it really cant take you that long to ban me & issue your musings.

  24. Clemgeopin 24

    I received an email about this topic/opinion. I wanted to comment on it, but I can’t find where it is exactly! Where is it? Is it not online yet?

    I am referring to :

    Russel Norman to Colin Craig – Bring it on
    by mickysavage

    • karol 24.1

      I saw it too. Sometimes it’s just that an author publishes a post earlier than they intended, hitting the publish button by mistake. Maybe he hasn’t finished writing or editing the post yet…?

    • Chooky 24.2

      …i commented and it immediately went off line…disappeared into the ether….

  25. Yossarian 25

    Ok, enough is enough, your not normally this long in compling a list of thrush, and all my others faults you deem me to have. I shall save you the bother. I shall offski for self imposed exile in KiwiLog.

  26. greywarbler 26

    I picked this up from the Blog list at the side of the page. Some comments on possible changes at Kiwibank on-line set up wondering whether they are in the best interests of the bank and the country. I hope that we don’t have some little Kiwi manager thinking that he/she has to recommend a big overseas company because that will make them look sophisticated and important and possibly cheap.

    The ideal solution is, of course, for Kiwibank to wake up to the very strong local development talent, hire them in and give them true power and air cover to reinvent banking, piece by piece and digital-first. It’s that approach is good enough for the entire UK government, it’s good enough for a tiny antipodean retail bank.

  27. Colonial Viper 27

    Rupert Murdoch scores hassle free $882M tax rebate from Aussies

    What a sweet ride for the modern corporate giant.

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