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Another drought for Southern Region? How will ..Dairy farmers deal with that? Water is going to be scarce. More pressure on Councils to “allow” water takes?
Plenty in the Waikato and taranaki currently. Knock knock dairy industry this is the reality of CC calling.
Canterbury and Otago dairy production is in large part secured through irrigation.
Southland could do the same with massive irrigation if it wants to secure dairy production.
Just need to extrude some multi-kilometer pipes straight out of Tiwai Point.
It will be an excellent quandary when growing trees becomes more profitable than milk, now that trees are rapidly overtaking sheep.
Ready for a fascinating read?
Overthrowing the patriarchy with ecstatic sex
Read the full article (and I suggest you will find it more than interesting!) here:
“Variety is the very spice of life, that gives it all its flavor.”
As this was written by an 18th century English poet shouldn't that be "flavour"?
Possibly BG – it was a 'cut-and-paste' job
Thanks BG and Drowsy. It is only an aside, but I think we all benefit from knowing about such 'sidelines'.
Or maybe I just have morbid interests..
Flavour to everyone other than Americans.
Very interesting Robert. Thanks.
I suppose that if the antagonistic battle was a draw, then the person could be hermathrodite.
Steady on. You'll be challenging some folk's worldviews there.
I wonder how many people commenting here read the article. It's pretty interesting. The underlying theme is that sex (how species reproduce) is dimorphic but this doesn't determine behaviour or roles in the way that say Darwin posited. And that Darwin's science was probably affected by his cultural world views.
Also worth noting is that science has been skewed by the historical dominance of men, and that when we allowed more women into science, we can see they asked different questions. I would say because of their experience of being female, and because there is such a thing as women's culture.
Will read the article Robert, but just the title leads me to suspect Jenny has an ideological position that she is fitting her reseach to. Human genes and the process (which happens in the womb, rather than "assigned at birth" is a complex system. But we are either male or female with the very rare exception of intersex people who have nothing to do with being trans or gender ideology.
On a separate but related note, this from Salient
This issue which features things Queer includes pictures of young women showing their masectomy scars. Itt appears to be part of celebrating all things Queer and Trans.
Reseach like Jenny's I suspect is used to support queer theory.
From Robert's link:
Might be a revelation to some, but many have heard this dross multiple times.
The ‘recent’ understanding of what it is to be female, the conflation of material sex based body differences, processes and impacts with societal stereotypes, the analogy with sexual reproduction in other species… etcetera etcetera…
Yes. Nothing new in that article you could not have already picked up from any number of David Attenborough shows. Yes we have long understood that sex manifests itself in any number of different ways in a myriad other species.
But crucially most species evolve one strategy, and stick to it. Humans evolved their own highly complex strategy and one closely linked to our complex societies. There is no reason to think we could mate like bonobos, or preying mantis, without also massively upending our entire social orders as well.
But then that may well be the general idea for some.
Year Zero … perpetual anarchy / permanent revolution … all fixed categories & meanings are "oppressive" and must be immediately & aggressively subverted … everyone outside the Critical Theory Cult is a Fascist, lacking the “unusually-refined moral sensibilities” of the self-enamoured erudite.
In other words … Another day, another Queer Theory fantasist.
Over the years here at TS I have noticed the most radical voices eventually revealing an underlying sexual motif behind their desire to upend everything.
“You know what they're all obsessed with don't you?”
Yes and with the passing of years I only get to manage it about once a day now …
Congrats, you've 'out-Fawltied' Basil – knew you were still up to it
You know she's not talking from gender ideology, right?
Lucy Cooke, (who Robert is quoting @2) seems to be having great fun here.
Might suggesting that Jenny Graves has "an ideological position that she is fitting her reseach to" be akin to judging a book by someone else’s cover?
Pot, meet kettle
I was going to ask you to elaborate Populuxe 1, but you know what? No worries.
Thank you Robert.
Another interesting read:
O.k read the article and it is interesting about the differenct species. Thanks for posting Robert
The edition I posted of Salient show what universities are peddling in terms of Queer Theory and Gender Ideology. The fact that they are showing pictures of young women who have had double mascectomies as something to celebrate should cause a few wake up calls I would hope.
….the different species.
In the meantime, Order has been restored in the Universe, and Justice has been Served, as the Time Honoured game of Quidditch is renamed "Quadball"… because players no longer want to be associated with the inventor of said sport who has been deservedly cancelled due to her outrageous claims that sex is a biological reality.
(I wouldn't be relying on those wake-up calls Anker.)
Maybe not Rosemary.
Yes we must all ban and punish and distance ourselves from J K Rowling immediately.! She has said biological sex is real and women exist!
Have they not yet realized that Rowling want care a toss about this and it only makes the cancellers look petty, ridiculous and authoritarian?
Blackrock signals change in investment strategy,with a change from ESG to value stocks.
Having lost this financial year an equivalent value of around Australia's GDP.
There should be a lesson for those Governments who want to have Private Equity investment funds,being able to invest in strategic assets.
"There should be a lesson for those Governments who want to have Private Equity investment funds being able to invest in strategic assets."
What lesson do you think they should take? Do you propose they should take the most obvious one? That is that Government should sell all the businesses they own to organisations such as BlackRock. Then when the share price falls it will be BlackRock clients who lose money rather than the taxpayer?
This sort of story reminds me of a question Bill Gates was asked in 2000, and the answer he is supposed to have given.
Some reporter asked him, during the dotcom crash, how it felt to have lost a billion dollars in a day. Gates responded that Microsoft was the same company as it had been yesterday and that he still owned the same fraction of it that he had owned yesterday. He hadn't lost anything.
It seems to me that Govts should Nationalise everything, then use the same argument as Gates.
I have a problem with Governments owning any business.
It is that politicians will never admit that they have made a mistake and therefore will never stop throwing money at a business that should be allowed to die. Hence they keep wasting more and more money on stupid investments rather than say that it was a mistake and the business should be wound up.
Sooner or later, in the private sector people will stop putting money into a company and it will collapse if it can't produce goods at a price that people are willing to pay. Governments don't have that constraint. It isn't their money and their only real interest is in trying to show that their judgement was infallible.
The only time a stupid Government owned business gets closed down is after a change of Government. I vote for a change of Government after 9 years so that this can happen. I was really pissed off in 2017 because there wasn't a competent opposition to come to power. Events since then have shown how correct my opinion was.
Sorry, but I don't think of the private sector as being any more honest (often a lot less) or efficient (they hide most of their stuff-ups.)
The privately-owned fossil fuel industry deliberately lied about global warning, and has probably brought us to the edge of extinction.
I never said anything about firms being more, or less, honest or efficient.
I was only discussing whether they were more likely to give up on doing something stupid. Sooner or later a Company has to stop money-losing endeavours. This often coincides with the CEO being sacked. With Politicians running things it happens when they lose an election. A new Government can stop the madder things and talk about how bad their predecessors were. A Government that remains in power doesn't stop things they started. It has nothing to do with their political leanings. They are all the same.
If this is contagious does this mean that the NZRFU might actually be able to acquire Silverlake. That would delight me enormously. Don’t fuck with theAllBlacks!
It would be laughable to look at the latest edition of Salient, if queer theory didn't impact so negatively young women's (and men's ) who get caught up in it so significantly