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Open mike 23/02/2020

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  1. Sacha 1

    How NZ's health system is racist: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/119627680/why-do-maori-suffer-inequality-in-the-health-system-some-experts-say-its-white-privilege

    The Waitangi Tribunal red flagged the ongoing disparities in Māori health last year. It determined a likely cause of disparities was racism, both systemic and personal, and stereotyping in the health system.

    If Māori were treated the same as non-Māori in health, the tribunal found, there should be no difference in health outcomes or interventions.

  2. Robert Guyton 2

    "On February 6, 2020, weather stations recorded the hottest temperature on record for Antarctica. Thermometers at the Esperanza Base on the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula reached 18.3°C (64.9°F)—around the same temperature as Los Angeles that day. The warm spell caused widespread melting on nearby glaciers.

    The warm temperatures arrived on February 5 and continued until February 13, 2020. The images above show melting on the ice cap of Eagle Island and were acquired by the Operational Land Imager (OLI) on Landsat 8 on February 4 and February 13, 2020."

     

    https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/146322/antarctica-melts-under-its-hottest-days-on-record?fbclid=IwAR3OcrCYBnFUTbTamsK5ywoiVQBcxoIHUonwnzDgnwWG_oDcy3g2A-J58cE

     

    Just sayin'

    • Sacha 2.1

      Warmer than Invercargill. 🙂

    • Bill 2.2

      We's fucked. It's over. "How fast?" is the only question I still have. (Sort of, as in "How much time elapses between the body impacting on the ground at a great rate of knots and the actual moment of death?")

    • Alice Tectonite 3.1

      Any particular reason you've dug up a two year old article? 

      • WeTheBleeple 3.1.1

        Cos he thinks a single day's measurements lend controversy to what is actually a trend e.g we just went through our hottest ever decade.

        Following the prompts of bots and boofheads on social media to prove lack of acumen. Spreading the shit to show lack of moral fibre.

        • Incognito 3.1.1.1

          When we need a mind-reading Moderator on this site, you should definitely submit your application with full CV.

          • Sacha 3.1.1.1.1

            I recall a lot of moderating required to manage CV's mindreading. 🙂

            • Incognito 3.1.1.1.1.1

              He has/had a unique mind 😉

              Given that quite a few seem to have trouble reading what is actually written here I’d suggest they leave the mindreading out of it. It can easily lead to putting words into people’s mouths and making stupid assumptions and attributions, which usually lead to a war of words instead of robust debate.

              Given that the pressure on Moderators will increase in Election Year there is bound to be less mindreading and more direct action. For example, some might find themselves shunted onto the Blacklist till Moderators have time and energy to sort out things whilst protecting the flow of comments and debate (and writing Posts!).

              PS CV was before my time as Moderator on this site; I’ve had it relatively easy so far 😉

              • Incognito

                @ Muttonbird: don’t blame us for your predicament. It will be sorted so be patient till the Moderator has time to look into it; you can help (i.e. make it easier for all involved) or hinder and that is for you to choose. My personal advice: choose (your words) wisely. No more communication from me on this.

          • WeTheBleeple 3.1.1.1.2

            Yeah fair call. Should have been some prefix's like 'maybe', and 'perhaps'. But I'm not so stupid I can't draw the dots

            Perhaps he's implying a single weather event makes climate change data controversial. Which is utter tosh.

        • Alice Tectonite 3.1.1.2

          Very likely, given his past form. I was hoping he'd elaborate…

      • Ross 3.1.2

        Any particular reason you've dug up a two year old article? 

        History is more than just stuff that happened yesterday. I like history although I acknowledge that not everyone is a fan. 🙂

        • Alice Tectonite 3.1.2.1

          Climate is more than a day taken in isolation. Taking a single day in isolation looks remarkably like cherry picking which is a classic climate change denier technique.

          As for history: needs relevant context, which you (funnily enough) fail to give.

          • Ross 3.1.2.1.1

            Climate is more than a day taken in isolation.

            Quite correct. But when Robert said that the hottest day on record has been recorded in Antarctica, you didn’t respond. That’s your prerogative but it’s hard to take you seriously. If you wish to call him a climate denier, you are welcome to do so. But given his previous comments on climate change, I think you’d be well wide of the mark.

            • Incognito 3.1.2.1.1.1

              That’s a reasonable comment albeit that Robert’s comment @ 2 was in line with CC, based on a recent observation, and he has no form as a CC ‘sceptic’ or denier.

              Given that you’re a fan of (climate) history, here’s a little treasure trove for you: https://niwa.co.nz/climate/information-and-resources/nz-temperature-record

            • Alice Tectonite 3.1.2.1.1.2

              If your post was meant to be a reply to Robert's then why didn't your make it one?

              Why I questioned you: you have form and have run these sort of distractions before. Robert's posting history shows he generally understands climate whereas yours contains repeated climate denial lines. As I said, context is important…

              Did you bother to read the article about Antarctica? It provides some context: warm temperatures becoming more frequent this century when they were previously rare.

              As you interested in climate history, perhaps you could look up what happened last time there was very high atmospheric CO2. What was Antarctica covered in? 

               

              • RedLogix

                perhaps you could look up what happened last time there was very high atmospheric CO2. What was Antarctica covered in? 

                Oh I dunno … 

              • Ross

                yours contains repeated climate denial lines.

                You must be thinking of someone else. But if you can post a copy of what I’ve said in the past, you’ll realise that.

    • RedLogix 3.2

      @ Ross

      I read you as a reasonably smart contributor here; so I offer this simple, concrete explanation. Imagine people are walking past your shop doorway and you're measuring and recording their height (a simple smart camera would do the job). 

      Over the period of a week or so you'd notice that the data fell within a certain upper and lower limit. (You'd also quickly notice the bi-modal difference between males and females, but for the sake of the analogy, lets set that aside.) The actual height of any given person would be both stochastic and normally distributed within this range. The vast majority of people fall within 3 standard deviations of the average. Hopefully this 101 Statistics is familiar to you.

      Interestingly you'd find some extreme outliers that happen at very low frequencies, but they are very rare. What is more interesting is that the reason why they are such outliers often has underlying medical causes that puts the reason for their extreme into a different class than the usual causes of height variation. Or imagine you were recording the temperature in a room on a daily basis, that was usually held between 20 – 30 degC. Then one day the data came back at -40degC for just that one day, then returned to normal. Is this real data? It's way more likely this one day was because the instrument had been turned off, rather than representing a real variation. On this basis it's reasonable to discard this extreme outlier because it will contaminate the long term record if you leave it in.

      But then if you leave the camera recording long enough something else becomes apparent; over the period of decades the average height slowly increases.  The change is far too small to notice on a daily or even yearly basis, but as a whole generation passes by it becomes obvious. At the large secondary school I went to I was one of the two or three tallest, but these days I get a crick in my neck looking up at them.

      Note carefully … while the frequency of very tall kids between say 184 and 194cm  has increased significantly, the frequency of the extreme outliers (274cm)  has not … because the reason why they are so extreme is not driven by the underlying mechanism (improved nutrition in this case) that is causing the average height to rise.

      Sorry if this is a laborious explanation, hopefully the parallel to climate change is obvious to you. I've made this point a few times now; both climate deniers and alarmists indulge in cherry picking weather events and climate to suit their agenda. They also frequently misrepresent extreme events without properly attributing them.

      In simple terms climate is just weather trended to a 30 year basis. What we clearly see in the data is that over this time frame, average temperatures everywhere are rising. Case closed. What we don't know, and this is critical to understand, is what impact the increasing heat energy in the system is going to have on the variability of the weather and what impact on extreme events this will have. It’s reasonable to hypothesise that variability will increase but exactly how and where is not obvious; case definitely still open.

      That complicates the discussion a lot.

  3. Herodotus 4

    Various govts over the years have attempted to make life bearable for those in need: give $50 winter heating allowances, meals at school, hardship allowances, etc. 

    When will those in power ever learn to fix the cause not try a bandage cure the symptoms ? if benefits, wage conditions are inadequate why not go the rather root ? Or do they not trust those in need to spend the $ wisely ?

    • JanM 4.1

      Probably because as soon as you raise income the landlords will put the rent up

      • WeTheBleeple 4.1.1

        Rent caps. Screw these racketeering assholes.

         

        • Sacha 4.1.1.1

          Rent caps only work if there are enough homes already. Say, after a big state house building programme or when financial speculation incentives are structurally removed from the system.

  4. Sacha 5

    So that's where the recent party-line digs about art auctions have fitted in: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/410130/labour-got-donations-from-two-accused-in-national-party-case

    Labour Party president Claire Szabo said in a statement that Zheng Hengjia donated $10,000 by buying a piece of art at a silent auction in April 2017.

     

    • Incognito 5.1

      Never put all your eggs in one basket.

    • Puckish Rogue 5.2

      A bob each way so they backed a winner, wonder if they got anything for their donation angel

      • mac1 5.2.1

        A piece of art? He got a piece of art.

        I bought a piece of art in a NZLP auction. Can't remember what I paid for it, a print. But I got no favours for it.

        I once donated, with permission from the artist, an art work for auction. It went for a good sum. I was given it by the artist who has since died, thereby immeasurably increasing its value. The painting was bought by a National party supporter who I know. I hope she is enjoying it, because she got no favours either apart from owning a fine painting by a top artist which is appreciating in value. Sometimes, just sometimes, there is nothing ulterior but a good deal all round. I lost a painting, another person got it, the NZLP got a good donation- all happy.

      • mac1 5.2.2

        A piece of art?

        I bought a piece of art in a NZLP auction. Can't remember what I paid for it, a print. But I got no favours for it, except for seeing it every day.

        I once donated, with permission from the artist, an art work for auction. It went for a good sum. I was given it by the artist who has since died, thereby immeasurably increasing its value. The painting was bought by a National party supporter who I know. I hope she is enjoying it, because she got no favours either apart from owning a fine painting by a top artist which is appreciating in value. Sometimes, just sometimes, there is nothing ulterior but a good deal all round. I lost a painting, another person got it, the NZLP got a good donation- all happy.

        • Puckish Rogue 5.2.2.1

          Yes thats it, I'm sure the guy was just being benevolent laugh

          • mac1 5.2.2.1.1

            Can you point otherwise? To what personal benefit this man has achieved from buying an art work? You're saying that $10 grand buys influence? That's pretty cheap…….. in at least two ways.

            You need at least $200 grand it seems for two MPs of superior quality.

            Silent auction, indeed!

      • McFlock 5.2.3

        well, ten grand one way and a hundred k the other.

        I guess they knew who was more likely to grant favours.

        • Puckish Rogue 5.2.3.1

          Price is what you pay value is what you get…

          • Incognito 5.2.3.1.1

            What value did the voters get from paying the price?

            • Puckish Rogue 5.2.3.1.1.1

              Beats me but they don't seem the type to throw around some cash without expecting something in return

              • Incognito

                In other words, just more hot air from you?

                Pity, because we could have had a robust debate about the perverse influence of donations (declared and undeclared) on NZ politics.

                I see you’ve found another topic to use your considerable bandwidth on.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Well heres my view, no public funding of political parties and all donations to be declared or up to $50 or some similar number

                  Whatever is easiest

                  • Incognito

                    Here’s my view: equal State funding for each political party standing in the Election. No monetary private donations at all.

                    • In Vino

                      Agree. And I have a similar proposition regarding private schools:

                      that private schools should be allowed to retain their 'special character' in curriculum, etc, but that in funding per student they should be strictly kept down to that of state schools.

                    • Incognito []

                      I can live with that too 😉

  5. Puckish Rogue 6

    Interesting post from kiwiblog, can any Greenies confirm if its correct?

    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2020/02/greens_panicking.html

    'I won’t lie, the last two polls aren’t looking good for us. Last night’s poll marks the second in a row that indicate we are at risk of falling below the 5% threshold'

    • Incognito 6.1

      You don’t have to be a “Greenie” to draw your own conclusions from polls. Unless you’re severely mathematically challenged or biased.

      • Puckish Rogue 6.1.1

        I actually wanted to know if the email was correct and that kiwiblog wasn't telling porkies, I'm well aware that NZFirst are well below the threshold and that the Greens are floundering (#labournomates) and its a beautiful thing to see

        • Incognito 6.1.1.1

          Why didn’t you actually ask the question that you actually wanted to know?

          Why not ask the question on KB instead of linking to it here under false pretences?

          Why not test out the e-mail for yourself and report back?

          Why not stop wasting our time and attention here with your little wind-ups?

          BTW, these are rhetorical questions.

          • Puckish Rogue 6.1.1.1.1

            Why didn’t you actually ask the question that you actually wanted to know?

            – I did

            Why not ask the question on KB instead of linking to it here under false pretences?

            – No false pretences and more Greenies on here than on kiwiblog I suspect

            Why not test out the e-mail for yourself and report back?

            – I don't like giving emails out to political parties, who knows what they'll do with them

            Why not stop wasting our time and attention here with your little wind-ups?

            – Its political and interesting don't you think

            BTW, these are rhetorical questions.

            – Because I respect you enough as a poster to give you honest answers to questions

            • Ed1 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Well you will be pleased to know that the huge group of "undecided" means that your concern may well be misplaced. The government is also showing that they can still achieve a lot even with a party that is trying to position itself to appeal to National voters who may well be looking for another home. The mutual respect means that any of the three parties can advise that they will not support particular legislation; without that breaking the government. No small party has flourished from trying to work with National, who do not understand working with others; it was good that Bridges made his position clear. I am confident that the Green Party will achieve over 5%; I am however disappointed that the government did not accept the recommendation from the review to reduce the 5%  threshold. 

            • In Vino 6.1.1.1.1.2

              PR – do you actually understand the nature of a rhetorical question?

              The common example is, 'What use is it to be rich if you are not happy?'

              No answer expected, because the question is already telling you; 'It is no use to be rich if you are not happy,'

              Try looking again at Incognito's questions in that light.

              • Puckish Rogue

                I did and I took it to mean that Incognito was being a flibbertigibbet so I answered completely truthfully, because I'm good like that

                • In Vino

                  But you haven't looked at his/her questions again and understood what he/she was telling you. Too depressing?

                  • Puckish Rogue

                    Because this:

                    Why didn’t you actually ask the question that you actually wanted to know?

                    – I did

                    After that it was all moot wasn't it, Incognito was assuming I had ulterior motives for the question I asked whereas I actually asked the question I wanted an answer for

                    • In Vino

                      Evasion

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Naah not really, I'm asking the question I want answered anything else is other peoples business I guess

                    • Incognito []

                      Sigh

                      Your first attempt at a question @ 6 was vague, ambiguous, and pretty much unanswerable to anyone who had not read the post on KB or even for those who had read it. Your Q was followed by a link to divert traffic away to the sewer blog and quoted text that was self-evident.

                      Then, @ 6.1.1, you state that you actually wanted to know about the e-mail address, which you could have explained in the first place @ 6.

                      Diverting traffic to KB is generally not a good idea and with your personal political preferences, it was a logical assumption that this was your false pretence. Never mind, you would not have admitted it in any case.

                      Why ask if the e-mail address is legit if you have no interest whatsoever in sending them an e-mail?

                      Your diversion and wind-ups are time wasters and not “political and interesting”, IMO.

                      A rhetorical Q does not require an A but you seem unable to stop bleating.

                      So, here we are, answering your Q that you actually don’t give a toss about. Let’s just say that you have burnt quite a bit of credit with me for no gain whatsoever. Consider it throwing away money at a silent auction and leaving empty-handed.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      I wasn't asking if the email address was correct, I was asking if the information in the email that was sent was correct.

                      IE was the information sent correct or was the information sent incorrect

                      "Let’s just say that you have burnt quite a bit of credit with me for no gain whatsoever."

                      Wow thats quite an arrogant statement don't you think

    • Ad 6.2

      The Green Party campaign director going out into print like that is a really clear public warning that there's a really good chance the Green Party is about to go the way of the Maori Party.

      Even in a mediocre government run by inherited surpluses and a single person's charisma, the Green delivery has been the standout worst since 2017.

      The Green Party deserves the arse card this year.

      • swordfish 6.2.1

        .
        Latest UMR / CB / RR Polls were conducted 7-8 months out from the 2020 Election.

        Based on results from the same Pollsters at the same point in the run-up to previous Elections going back to 1999 … & making a few crucial assumptions about differing electoral contexts (always a tricky business) … I'm still predicting that:

        Greens are heading for 6.0 – 6.5% Party Vote.

        • Puckish Rogue 6.2.1.1

          So I'm curious and you're quite switched on, whats your prediction for the party vote for National, Labour, NZFirst and Act?

          • swordfish 6.2.1.1.1

            .
            Well, if you twisted my arm … then … (apart from retaliating with a quick jab in the Kidneys) … I'd be forced to say something along the lines of:

            Green: 6.2%

            NZF: 5.7%

            But I haven't even begun to look at the Major Parties … needs to be done in a systematic way … so a few weeks away yet.

            (Then again, in a few weeks’ time COVID-19 might be all we’re interested in talking about).

            • Puckish Rogue 6.2.1.1.1.1

              NZFirst that high? Interesting

              • Sacha

                They have a track record of a decent bounce at the poll that counts.

              • swordfish

                 

                Consider NZF Poll support at the same point during their last 2 stints in Govt:

                I'll use Colmar Brunton as an example:

                2008

                Colmar Brunton

                April 2008 (same point out from Election): 1.5%

                (Up 2.57 points on this at subsequent Election)

                 

                CB 4 Poll Average (Dec 2007-April 2008):: 1.9%

                (Up 2.17 points on this at subsequent Election)

                 

                CB Average over previous 12 Months: 2.2%

                (Up 1.87 points on this at subsequent Election)

                 

                2008 Election Result (Party Vote): 4.07%

                 

                 

                1999

                Colmar Brunton

                April 1999 (same point out from Election): 2%

                (Up 2.26 points at subsequent Election)

                 

                CB 4 Poll Average (Dec 1998-April 1999): 2.2%

                (Up 2.06 points at subsequent Election)

                 

                CB Average over previous 12 Months: 2.2%

                (Up 2.06 points at subsequent Election)

                 

                1999 Election Result (Party Vote):4.26%

                 

                 

                2020

                Colmar Brunton

                Feb 2020  (same point out from Election): 3.3%

                CB 4 Poll Average (July 2019 – Feb 2020): 3.8%

                CB Average over previous 12 Months: 4.1%

                2020 Election Result (Party Vote): looking very 5.5-6.0%

                 

                A similar comparison with UMR figures suggests something broadly similar, while TV3 Reid Research / CM stats would suggest NZF are heading a little lower (close to the 5% threshold).

                So, the upshot of all of that – plus one or two assumptions about differing political / electoral contexts – plus a little bit of magic – leads me inexorably towards a 2020 NZF Party Vote of  5.7%

                5.68% to be exact 🙂

                 

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Thats cool but dont think Bridges ruling out Winnie will have an impact on his right leaning voters, they won't be happy knowing a vote for Winnie is a vote for Labour and all that

                  • swordfish

                    .
                    Yeah … but the problem with that argument:

                    Oppo Leader John Key also ruled out forming a coalition or entering any kind of support arrangement with NZ First in the run-up to the 2008 Election …

                    … and yet, as you can see, NZF still ended 2.6 points higher (at the 2008 Election) than they were polling in the Colmar Brunton 7 months out (ie the same point we're at currently).

                    3.3% (NZF in latest CB)
                    + 2.6
                    = 5.9%

                     

                    • veutoviper

                      Thanks for that, swordfish.  Do you have similar information for NZF for the Colmar Brunton polls for 2011, 2014 and 2017?   I would be interested to see whether the same trends happened then between the polls and election results – but only if you have the info readily available.  

                    • swordfish

                       
                      veutoviper

                      NZF

                      .
                      2011

                      Colmar Brunton

                      April 2011 (same point out from Election): 2.7%

                      (Up 3.9 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB 4 Poll Average (Sep 2010 – April 2011): 3.0%

                      (Up 3.6 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB Average over previous 12 Months: 2.6%

                      (Up 4 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      2011 Election Result (Party Vote): 6.59%

                       

                       

                      2014

                      Colmar Brunton

                      Feb 2014 (same point out from Election): 3.1%

                      (Up 5.56 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB 4 Poll Average (July 2013 – Feb 2014):: 3.5%

                      (Up 5.16 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB Average over previous 12 Months: 3.4%

                      (Up 5.26 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      2014 Election Result (Party Vote): 8.66%

                       

                       

                      2017

                      Colmar Brunton

                      Feb 2017 (same point out from Election): 11%

                      (Down 3.8 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB 4 Poll Average (June 2016 – Feb 2017): 10.3%

                      (Down 3.1 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      CB Average over previous 12 Months: 10%

                      (Down 2.8 points on this at subsequent Election)

                       

                      2017 Election Result (Party Vote): 7.2%

                       
                      I think it’s most useful / appropriate to focus on NZF’s two stints in Govt (though, of course, they were ailing third term administrations = so no perfect comparisons).

                    • veutoviper

                      Thanks for the extra information, swordfish.  Really appreciate it.

                      I agree that it is probably "most useful / appropriate to focus on NZF’s two stints in Govt (though, of course, they were ailing third term administrations = so no perfect comparisons)".   However, it is also interesting to see that the trends appear to have continued for the 2011 and 2014 elections.  Re the 2017 election, the opposite downward trend in actual result is not surprising given the high polling and the extraordinary events that took place pre-election.  

                      I have also tracked down your various predictions etc in Oct and Aug 2019 here on TS and looking at the whole lot together is now on my To Do list but have a few other priorities to be cleared before that can happen.  Thanks again. 

    • mauī 6.3

      Time to sack the odious suit Shaw… and put a real socialist in charge – Bradford or McDonald.

      • Puckish Rogue 6.3.1

        Not trying to be funny but don't the Greens have a thing about equal gender representation and currently they 8 MPs but only two males…so a split of 75-25

         Mind you I suppose he could be sacked and still stay on

      • Psycho Milt 6.3.2

        Time for the Green Party to ditch environmenatlism in favour of socialism?  I have to admit this makes as much sense as anything else you post.

    • I haven't been back and checked the email, but that quote matches my memory of it.  However, the email was a request for donations, which always come with a message about how the county is doomed if you don't bung the party some dosh right away. This one was no different in that respect, and DPF's post is just the usual "fomenting happy mischief" in the interests of the National Party.

      • Puckish Rogue 6.4.1

        Though Labour should be worried, the Greens falling under 5% wouldn't do them any favours

        • Psycho Milt 6.4.1.1

          Oh, for sure.  I tend towards the view that the country would quite literally be doomed if the Greens fall below 5%, so I immediately bunged the party some dosh as requested.  I don't think many in Labour share that opinion about the value of the Greens, though.

          • Puckish Rogue 6.4.1.1.1

            (I'm no fan of the Greens of course) Thats quite short-sighted of Labour I'd have thought

          • McFlock 6.4.1.1.2

            I suspect the Greens have more support in Labour than you imagine – quite a few people do "christmas tree" voting (Labour and Green), and the smart way would be to electorate Labour and party vote Green, as they're the ones closest to the threshold.

            NZ1, on the other hand, I reckon most Labour and Greens could take or leave. Supergold card good, immigration, guns, fossil fuel policies bad lol.

            • Psycho Milt 6.4.1.1.2.1

              I hope you're right that I'm wrong(!) about Labour in this respect.

              … quite a few people do "christmas tree" voting (Labour and Green)...

              Me too. Apologies to whoever the Green candidate in my electorate will be, but I probably won't even learn your name – keeping the Labour electorate MP as this electorate's MP will be my priority.

      • Incognito 6.4.2

        … DPF's post is just the usual "fomenting happy mischief" in the interests of the National Party.

        Indeed, that’s why I frown upon unthinking commenters who link to it with questionable motives.

      • Muttonbird 6.4.3

        Yep. The email to members/supporters/donor is just normal fundraising technique. I get these all the time from Labour saying how hard the fight is going to be and how every little bit helps. Will you chip in?

        Farrar may as well have done a post on each Party's election year email correspondence with their supporters but he chose to highlight the Greens' email because that is the Party he is most afraid of this week.

  6. Anne 7

    What's a silent auction?

    • Puckish Rogue 8.1

      I like it! I mean my one hope for the election was to see Winnie gone, didn't care who got into power as long as Winnie was gone but to see the Greens floundering at this stage in the cycle is just the cherry on the top.

      Lets face it Winnies going to be going at the Greens big time from now until the election to get back into parliament so its going to be a rough ride for them

      Maybe if they get a shellacking in the election it might force them to think of a better way, a way to be able to work with all parties for the sake of the environment… wink

      • mac1 8.1.1

        Remind me again why the 5% threshold is a Good Thing? Remind me again why doing deals with electorate seats because of the MMP rule giving parties with electorate seat/s a % of the seats commensurate with their party vote , but otherwise restricting minor parties to a 5% threshold?

        So far people on this blog have advocated for special deals for three parties, Greens, ACT and NZF. I bet others would welcome TOP with 2.4% on the 2017 vote, the Conservatives etc.

        I am sure that a Green/NZF % would outweigh a ACT, Conservative, TOP, Maori league.

        It might even encourage the full impact of MMP by inducing the National Party to shrug off its factions and devolve into at least two parties similar to the ones it coalesced from in the Thirties. 

        • Puckish Rogue 8.1.1.1

          Well I'd like MMP changed (no I don't want FPP), last election the largest party has nothing to do with government and to me thats wrong because that means 44% of the voters are ignored.

          This election it looks like Labour will be a one term govt and as much as I'll enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left (and I will) it'll still be a really large percentage of voters that're now ignored.

          Is MMP the best electoral system, can it be improved? If the threshold can be lowered then what other changes can be made to make the system fairer?

          • mac1 8.1.1.1.1

            If the polls you are citing are correct, then it would easily be possible that the party/coalition with a higher percentage of the vote would goive way to one party with a buy-in deal in Epsom with a lower vote.

            FFP has dealt that situation in NZ before. One reason why we went to MMP. Now the intricacies of MMP could deliver the very same result if the Greens and NZF were to fall below the 5% threshold without buy-in deals in Nelson, Auckland Central, Northland as have been suggested.

            • Puckish Rogue 8.1.1.1.1.1

              Theres more chance of me spontaneously growing my hair back then there is Jones winning Northland.

              Nelson is a possibility but not until Smith retires (hes really well liked up there) 

              Auckland Central isn't likely either (no matter what Bradbury thinks)

              To see how it is to win an electorate seat even with a deal just look at Epsom:

              Act 16 500 votes and National 10500, I mean with the deal on you'd expect Act to be higher 

              • Incognito

                To see how it is to win an electorate seat even with a deal just look at Epsom:

                Act 16 500 votes and National 10500, I mean with the deal on you'd expect Act to be higher

                Incorrect!

                The numbers you are quoting are the Candidate votes for David Seymour (16,505) and Paul Goldsmith (10,986), respectively.

                The Party votes were:

                Green Party 3,263

                National Party 22,875

                Labour Party 9,575

                New Zealand First Party 1,229

                ACT New Zealand 696

                https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2017/electorate-details-12.html

                No wonder that you predict even four seats for ACT

                A large proportion of the Epsom electorate are very well informed (and another part is not, when you look at the number of votes for the other candidates!). However, in other electorates there may be too many “low info” voters to pull it off so this makes these a risky proposition. There’s something counter-intuitive or counter-instinctive to vote for the enemy to win the war and obviously many can’t bring themselves to doing it.

              • Prickles

                “He’s really well liked up there”. Not by anyone I know. And the Labour and Green candidates got more votes than he did last time round so many locals clearly think it’s time for him to go. 

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Well maybe you need to start talking to other people.

                  The Tasman electorate was Labour from 1972 to 1990 when it was won by Nick Smith, he held it for two elections before heading to Nelson

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_(New_Zealand_electorate)#1990_election

                  He then won the Nelson electorate in 1996 which hes held ever since, a couple of points to note is that his lowest voting turnout was 2017 when he only got 40% of the vote plus prior to Nick Smith Labour had held that seat since 1957

                  So you and your friends may not like him but enough people certainly do

                  • Incognito

                    Reading comprehension does not seem to be your strong point. You have not rebutted Prickles’ comment at all. Nick Smith’s share of the vote went down by 12.13% and the combined vote of the Labour and Green’s candidates was higher than Nick’s.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_(New_Zealand_electorate)#2017_election

                    Only 40.69% of the Nelson voters voted for him, and 53.97% for Labour+Greens but they were ignored. This wrong should be corrected in September, don’t you agree?

                    • McFlock

                      wow, Matt Lawrey really jumped up for the Greens.

                      And Nick Smith last gained in % support in 2008. Going down ever since (although one was almost level). Wonder if it's a demographic change in the electorate.

                    • Incognito []

                      Quite a few regulars on this site are in the Nelson area. I can’t comment.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      "Only 40.69% of the Nelson voters voted for him, and 53.97% for Labour+Greens but they were ignored. This wrong should be corrected in September, don’t you agree?"

                      I agree, ignoring that many votes is not good at all.

                      Maybe a power sharing model oer something could be instigated or maybe STV could give a clearer decision.

                    • McFlock

                      Selecting electorate mps via STV or similar isn't a bad idea.

                  • Prickles

                    From what I can gather from speaking to people across the political spectrum here at the top of the South (not just my friends and family – some of whom, incidentally, are blue to the depths of their souls – family that is, not friends so much) even the blue ones think that nick smith has passed his use-by date. Of course when he is at the market he surrounds himself with sycophants. He’s not so keen in taking the time to speak to anyone with a different perspective on what is important. He does, however, deign to speak to anyone slightly red or green who may enable him to get his photo in the local paper. Many locals are embarrassed to have him “representing” us. The only person nick smith represents is nick smith.

              • In Vino

                Just a asde, PR,    when I got a reverse mirror view of my back, I was astonished to see how old age had brought on hairiness, almost as much as the chest.  Have you checked your own back lately? I suspect that you may have already grown those hairs you offer on condition.  Or they will soon appear anyway. You may then consider yourself as paying a debt.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Ahh see I wrote my hair back not my back hair because I don't need any help growing my back hair

                  When they talked about growing hair where there was none before they never mentioned the back, shoulders, nose or ears…

                  • In Vino

                    Yes…  Every so often, one needs to put ones reading glasses on when looking in the mirror.

          • mikesh 8.1.1.1.2

            Whatever form of election we have, it will result in voters who supported the losing parties "being ignored". So what?

            • Puckish Rogue 8.1.1.1.2.1

              Just because thats the way its always been doesn't mean it always has to be that way

          • Incognito 8.1.1.1.3

            According to the simplistic belief about democracy, up to 49% of the voters are ‘ignored’ at any given time (and sometimes more). In your thinking, it is wrong to ignore 44.4% of the voters but is it ok to then ignore 36.9% of the voters?

            You sound like a semi-utilitarian.

            Is MMP the best electoral system, can it be improved? If the threshold can be lowered then what other changes can be made to make the system fairer?

            Feel free to read/re-read my Post: /mmp-mark-ii/

            • Puckish Rogue 8.1.1.1.3.1

              As I said:

              "This election it looks like Labour will be a one term govt and as much as I'll enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the left (and I will) it'll still be a really large percentage of voters that're now ignored."

              I don't want a really large percentage of voters ignored

               

              • Incognito

                I don’t want a really large percentage of voters ignored

                MMP is a step in the right direction but not a magic bullet. The FPP mentality is still strong, partly because it underpins the status quo.

                Contrary to common belief, irrespective of who’s in Government, nobody is more or less ignored and status quo prevails, by and large. This is good and bad because there are definitely members of (our own as well as the global) society who are literally on the cliff’s edge or are falling between the cracks. Nobody seems to give a rat’s arse because they all are too busy looking at and appeasing the ‘majority’ or the ‘centre’.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  This next election is basically a FPP election. Labour (maybe the Greens sneak in) v National (with a couple of Act seats), NZ (the media?) just doesn't seem to "get" MMP

                  I mean I'm legit in wanting to see National and the Greens compromise to work together or Labour and Act or even National and Labour (they have more in common than differences)

                  I just think that no party has all the answers, National need some prompting from the left, the Greens need some conservatives to smooth out the edges etc etc

                  • Incognito

                    I believe there is more cooperation and collaboration going on than the SMS make us believe. It is in the MSM’s interest to magnify differences and contrast these as insurmountable fault lines. The public seems to swallow this without choking. Interestingly, and dare I say it, many political blogs and their commentariats seem to be even worse …

                  • lprent

                    Your statement pretty much defines you as a idiot politically.

                    I’d say that the probability of NZF getting back in approaches certainty – simply because they are small targeting their audience. Of course that is why their audience doesn’t get picked up in polling. Cynical buggers those NZF voters – they don’t talk to pollsters and never really have. The small audience is course why the Nats are gunning for them again – but using the same tactic and pretext as last time. FFS how stupid are those impotent dildos?

                    And what rough edges? Problem with the greens is that politically they don’t have them. It makes it hard for them to develop a ‘voice’. And BTW: conservationist parties of the type you’re wanting basically don’t exist politically. Offhand I can think of about 8 in my lifetime. They lose their deposits.

                    The important difference between National and Labour is that Labour thinks longer term and is more fiscally prudent on a long term basis. No point in trying to do what National does of developing a beneficiary bashing strategy as National does if all that means is that the opportunities are closed off for their kids. Cutting taxes for Labour is what you do AFTER you manage to grow the whole economy rather than just giving to their donors to squander. etc..

                    In my opinion National are short-term accountants who can’t think past their own wallets and their prejudices, and who hate to invest in a future. They are inherently economic wastrals because they selfishly don’t consider the whole of our future together.

                    In other words, if Labour headed down your proposed path, then I’d have a great deal of satisfaction in raising a revolution. It is the reason why Shearer was a darling of the right and something that a lot of us helped kick out.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Well as the self-proclaimed worlds greatest sy-sop I bow to your greater knowledge in all things political

                      [lprent: self-proclaimed worlds greatest sy-sop. That is an outright lie. Banned until October 2021 – unless you make a public abject apology or find evidence that I actually said or wrote that phrase.

                      From my memory this was just some dumbarse meme made up by one of the fools from kiwiblog. And you have had similar bans for this before. ]

                    • stunned mullet

                      impotent dildos ?

                    • lprent

                      impotent dildos – they vibrate all over the place saying that they have a purpose and a reason for existence, but never actually even try to do something about achieving it. Instead other people waste far too much time on them.

              • I don't want a really large percentage of voters ignored

                Oh, it's worse than that. The binning of their votes effectively redistributes their vote share to parties they didn't vote for.  That's the whole basis of National trying to drive NZF below the threshold, eg suppose a hypothetical example of 100 votes, of which National gets 46 and 10 votes are wasted. National goes from having 46 out of 100 votes to 46 out of 90, so its vote share goes from 46% to 52% and a ruling majority. That's the unspoken reason for National and Labour setting the threshold so high in the first place.

        • Ad 8.1.1.2

          – 5% helps stop loony extremists get in to Parliament. Doesn't stop them, but it helps.

          – doing deals is completely part of the cooperative nature of MMP

          – bringing in one or two MPs with deals can however add a bit of spice to a government, and even one or two good big concepts. Painful as it was, we wouldn't have merged Auckland without it. 

          – National MPs know which way their bread is buttered. There's only the Alliance to look to on that lesson. They have a really good chance at winning this year – unusually after only one term and new leadership. 

          • mac1 8.1.1.2.1

            Are the Greens and NZF, or for that matter TOP,  loony extremists?

            • Ad 8.1.1.2.1.1

              Greens and New Zealand First got in over 5%.

              They cater to a small fringe each, but they're not completely loony. 

              • Incognito

                Loony is in the eye of the beholder 😉

              • mac1

                If the Greens and NZF were below 5% as some pundits predict for September 2020 was my starting point. Funnily enough, when some political questionnaire came out in 2017,  I was closest to TOP, they said. I was surprised at that; so definitely not loony!

                I’m not frightened by the NZF left faction, and the Greens when not reduced to their authoritarian rump are also fine with me as partners.

              • Andre

                It's quite an extremist conformity view that you have to have at least 1 in 20 of your fellow citizens to share a similar set of beliefs in order to not be labelled a loony extremist.

                Me, I'd be happier holding off labeling someone a loony extremist until those sharing their set of beliefs falls below 1 in 120 of the population.

          • I Feel Love 8.1.1.2.2

            44% are ignored, yet 56% aren't? Sounds like democracy to me. 

            • mac1 8.1.1.2.2.1

              On the money, IFL. The Nat voting centre-right are disciplined enough to recognise that they have to accommodate their factions within the party. That's why there is a bit of a move to the right in their pronouncements, and candidate selection, to shore up their support there.

          • Sacha 8.1.1.2.3

            Labour supported merging Auckland’s councils, and the Nats led most of the work on it with Rodney as a convenient figleaf. Would have happened without his party.

            • Ad 8.1.1.2.3.1

              Maybe. It wouldn't have looked  like this. 

              • Sacha

                Without a convenient yellow figleaf they would have had to acknowledge more of the extreme elements as their own party’s agenda. Much like charter schools, etc. Guess that may have been unpalatable enough to discard. As it was, they did not go through with subsequently privatising Watercare.

          • mikesh 8.1.1.2.4

            If "looney extremists" are what some voters want why shouldn't they get into parliament. NZ is deemed to be a democracy when all is said and done. Better to have a zero threshold and let the chips fall where they may. The high 5% threshold benefits only the status quo.

            Today's "looney extremist " party may well be tomorrow's majority party.

            • Ad 8.1.1.2.4.1

              And I would agree with you, once they've got the credibility and policy-sense to get to 5%.

      • Ed1 8.1.2

        You are demonstrating an attitude that, I am sorry to say, is closer to a National Party ethos than that of The Green Party, Labour or even NZ First. National are careful about what they say in public, but their policies and decisions when in government have demonstrated they are prepared to write off a large segment of our population. Labour and the Green Party have demonstrated that they are about all New Zealanders – they want thriving businesses to create the equal opportunities that National only pays lip service to. NZ First has positioned itself as being between National and other parties – the 'keep them honest'" mantra that worked well for "Captain Sensible". All three however are looking to govern for all New Zealanders. If we truly believe in equal opportunity, respect for others, then we must accept that our personal views will not be held by all. To promote a system for our elections that seeks to make it hard for new parties to start, or to exclude smaller parties due to an arbitrary level of votes that they have to achieve, is in my view destructively elitist. Your attitude towards NZ First is disrespectful to a large number of New Zealanders , and essentially bordering on being anti-democratic. I appreciate that many see politics as if it is a card game  – it has meaning for most New Zealanders that is beyond that level; do not demean whatever party you support by effectively saying that some people matter more than others.

        • Incognito 8.1.2.1

          Well said!

          If we truly believe in equal opportunity, respect for others, then we must accept that all of our personal views will not be held by all.

          FIFY

    • Ad 8.2

       

       

      The Greens just don't have a compelling electorate candidate for Auckland Central. Nikki Kaye is just a really, really good electorate MP. 

      The Greens could propose a more attractive deal in Nelson. 

      Nick Smith is finally down to a reachable majority of 4,000 – with a running start, a pole vault and a favorable wind.

      2017

      Nick Smith       14,966

      Rachel Boyack 10,956

      Matt Lawrey       8,324

      Nelson is the place to secure the Greens future in Parliament, if Labour really needs it. 

      I'd be very surprised if the PM goes for any deal anywhere though.

      • Puckish Rogue 8.2.1

        Yeah Nelsons probably the best option, once he retires that is.  I've been up to Nelson at Christmas time the last few years and Nick Smith just seems really popular (this was at the Nelson market to be fair) so  many people at his tent and hardly ayone else at the others

        • Ad 8.2.1.1

          He has delivered for the Nelson area like the proverbial milkman. 

          That Waimea Dam is one of his biggest deliverables. Sure it's going over budget – what major infrastructure doesn't? It's a real region-changer.

        • Robert Guyton 8.2.1.2

          I'm thinking, "flies" and remembering the Nick Smith sculpture made from cow manure.

      • Incognito 8.2.2

        I'd be very surprised if the PM goes for any deal anywhere though.

        I don’t think so either but I think it is largely irrelevant for two reasons:

        One, will the electorate in question actually understand the ‘hint’, ‘suggestion’, ‘guidance’, or ‘instruction’ to vote for their non-preferred candidate to change the chances (possible outcome) of a certain coalition deal in Wellington?

        Two, voters are free to vote in the way they see fit and nobody, not even the PM, can make them vote in another way, thankfully.

        Epsom seems to be the only electorate so far that has shown enough political nous to pull it off successfully. Barry Coates and David Parker had 9,852 votes combined, which could have been used to try thwarting the National/ACT deal.

  7. joe90 9

    It's Christmas time, turkeys.

    /

    • Puckish Rogue 10.1

      This is good news for Trump

      • Morrissey 10.1.1

        Truly foolish comment. Are you a member of the Democratic National Committee, perchance? no

        • Puckish Rogue 10.1.1.1

          Seriously? You don't think Trump wants to go up against Saunders? Of course he does, so this is good news to Trump. 

          • Sacha 10.1.1.1.1

            Heck, even Pooters agrees with you.

          • Morrissey 10.1.1.1.2

            Dunno about Saunders, but he certainly wouldn't want to go against Sanders. Trump fears Bernie almost as much as the corrupt and delusional DNC fears him.

            Trump knows, just as well as you and everyone else knows, that in every metric, Bernie Sanders outperformed Trump in 2016. The DNC installed the unlikeable and unelectable Clinton instead.

            • Puckish Rogue 10.1.1.1.2.1

              Incorrect. Trump wants to against a socialist that honeymooned in Russia, supported the Sandinistas, recently had a heart attack, millionaire that owns three homes (but rich people are bad), wants to take away peoples healthcare that they like and replace with a health care system that he doesn't know how much will cost or how to implement it

              Trump would have had problems with Gabbard but the DNC took care of that,  the only candidate Trump would like to go against more would be Warren

              • Morrissey

                a socialist that honeymooned in Russia,

                That is wrong…how, exactly?

                supported the Sandinistas,

                Whereas you support the Contra terror squads illegally armed and supported by the United States?

                recently had a heart attack,

                He's a lot fitter than Trump.

                millionaire that owns three homes (but rich people are bad),

                Don't think he said all rich people are bad. His critique is more analytical and intelligent than your portrayal of it.

                wants to take away peoples healthcare 

                <snip rest of ignorant Leighton Smith-level ranting>….

              • RedLogix

                Trump would have had problems with Gabbard but the DNC took care of that, 

                I'm inclined to agree. In my view the DNC are running this election as a losing proposition, with the explicit intention of using it to knock out elements of the party they don't like. The last thing they want is someone they cannot control like Sanders, Yang or Gabbard actually winning.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  I've got a lot of time for Gabbard and Yang, she went on Joe Rogan and he went on Ben Shapiro

  8. Morrissey 11

    Reasons to feel hopeful about America

    No. 1: Max Blumenthal

  9. Puckish Rogue 12



    Tuckers nailing it again

    • Bill 12.1

      It's not unusual for Tucker to hit the nail on the head. It basically depends on the topic. On war, he's on point. On the bullshittery of liberal elites, he's on point. Immigration and other stuff…not so much.

      Anyway. I'm not really awaiting responses from the liberal twats who bought into the Steele Dossier, the Russia Hoax and the Mueller as white knight bullshit – like, how they going to square this nonsense that's coming from the intelligence community now that both Trump and Sanders are Putin puppets?! 🙂

      • McFlock 12.1.1

        Sanders got hookers in Moscow, too? golly.

        • Bill 12.1.1.1

          That the supposed shit on Trump, is it?

          The obvious question that peeps who bought the kompromat line is this…

          If Russian intelligence services had dirt on Trump, then how much more dirt do you think lies in the hands of the FBI and CIA?

          I don't think there's a soul out there who would claim Trump is anything but a corrupt and venal expression of humanity…but who is more likely to have the ability to exercise leverage over him?

          As a possible pointer, we might look to his foreign policy, how that stacks up against the rhetoric he spouted when running for office, and whether it favours Russian interests or US Intelligence Community interests.

          Arming fascists in Ukraine. Attempting a coup in Venezuela. Killing the German/Russian pipeline deal. Arming head-choppers in Syria. Pulling out of Russia/US arms treaties. And etc.

          • McFlock 12.1.1.1.1

            Maybe the FBI and CIA have a problem with the concept of blackmailing potus, for some reason.

            And try listing the way he fucked up NATO and handed over bases to Russian soldiers in Syria, and fucked the Kurds.

            But rather than having this debate a fucking cheeto again, I've not seen anyone say Sanders is a Russian tool. Sure, I've seen suggestions that Russia fucking with the elections again is helping Sanders, but nothing in the vague ballpark of them having leverage over him.

            • Bill 12.1.1.1.1.1

              The ground you've stood on these past years…wobble, wobble.

              • McFlock

                This from the guy who names the Steele Dossier and then appears to not recognise the reference.

                 

                • Bill

                  The Steele Dossier was as shit smeared toilet paper. I said that at the time.

                  Maddow on MSNBC and all the other Russia Hoax pundits notwithstanding…plus the soggy pissed on mess that was the Mueller Report (you geddit?) and the bullshit impeachment that sought to resurrect elements of failed propaganda…it’s all only served to highlight the shit of both that dossier and subsequent ramblings and rantings.

                  But hey. You believed it all. Such is life.

                  • McFlock

                    Which is all irrelevant to your "That the supposed shit on Trump, is it?".

                    Which actually makes sense – I really can't understand how you regard the Mueller Report as a "soggy mess" when half a dozen people got sent to prison because of it. But if you're not bothering to refresh your memory or keep track of the news, then your sloganeering makes more sense. They're just bardic phrases, rather than accurate descriptions.

                     

                     

          • Poission 12.1.1.1.2

            The obvious question that peeps who bought the kompromat line is this…

            If Russian intelligence services had dirt on Trump, then how much more dirt do you think lies in the hands of the FBI and CIA?

            The Russian strategy may be even more complex then thought due to asymmetric behaviour. such as Surkov.

            “It was the first non-linear war,” writes Surkov in a new short story, “Without Sky,” published under his pseudonym and set in a dystopian future after the “fifth world war”:

            In the primitive wars of the 19th and 20th centuries it was common for just two sides to fight. Two countries. Two groups of allies. Now four coalitions collided. Not two against two, or three against one. No. All against all.

            https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/hidden-author-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov/382489/

             

            • RedLogix 12.1.1.1.2.1

              The explanation may be simpler in this sense; in a world where all nations are connected physically, socially and economically …. it is inevitable they will also influence each other politically.

              Why would you expect otherwise?

      • Puckish Rogue 12.1.2

        Pretty sneaky those Russians to get both of them like that

    • RedLogix 12.2

      Of the many sources I routinely touch base with, Carlson's often the best value.

      No-one is all-seeing or perfect, but he's worth listening to.

  10. Fireblade 13

    Sustainable NZ leader Vernon Tava allegedly asked his party secretary to 'doctor' membership records.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/02/sustainable-nz-leader-vernon-tava-accused-of-ordering-membership-records-doctored.html

    • WeTheBleeple 13.1

      Schadenfreude bath time. He (or his buddies) also doctored the parties online presence (FB) so detractors were blocked. Was not interested in folk asking hard questions, or having a conversation. Only co-opting others media for smearing Greenpeace & the Green Party with. And did I mention he’s got a problem with his hands…

  11. joe90 14

    And we have a winner.

    • Morrissey 14.1

      Darn! He would have been the perfect candidate for either leader of ACT or president of Federated Farmers.

  12. joe90 16

    From Syria to the Arctic.

    //

    The Yamal Peninsula contains some of the biggest known reserves of natural gas on the planet. This remote peninsula in the Russian Arctic extends for 700 kilometres into the Kara Sea, and now several pipelines, offshore gas fields, and liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals have made it their home. Those tens of millions of cubic metres of natural gas have attracted Russia's state-owned gas companies and several international investors; in 2008, Gazprom announced its Yamal Project, to unlock the region's hydrocarbons on a vast scale.

    Yamal is also home to 15,000 people, 10,000 of whom are Nenets reindeer herders

    Indigenous rights activists have also raised concerns about what this large-scale energy extraction could mean for the Nenets and other indigenous peoples of Russia's far north. Dmitry Berezhkov is a member of the Itelmen people from the Kamchatka Peninsula and the former vice-president of the Russian Association of Indigenous Peoples of the North (RAIPON), a Moscow-based NGO. Berezhkov says that he was pressured by the Russian security services in the capital into framing RAIPON as a threat to the state.

    […]

    I spoke to Berezhkov about the consequences of natural gas exploitation for indigenous people in Russia's north. The interview has been edited for length and clarity.

    Maxim Edwards: What does the future hold for the indigenous peoples of the Yamal Peninsula? 

    Dmitry Berezhkov: More gas fields are being developed, further to the north and east of the peninsula and towards the other side of the gulf of the River Ob. The gas pipeline network is like an octopus; it spreads across the land. And for every pipeline and for every road, they take another piece of land away from reindeer herders. For now, reindeer herders try to use the rest of the land, but that means their herds may become smaller, and they are now starting to compete with each other for pastures. The problem is developing gradually, it gets a little worse every year.It's like a game of chess, they build one pipeline, then the herds move elsewhere.The growing infrastructure means that reindeer herders have to find new areas to graze, and if there are none, they have to put pressure on the same areas with even more reindeer. For example, the herds eat reindeer moss (Ru: Ягель), and the increased competition means that less of it is left. And less food for reindeer could mean smaller herds, and slaughtering animals which can't be fed. Either the government will sponsor a programme to kill reindeer, or the flocks will die out because of starvation. I don't know. But I think that over the next one or two decades, a huge number of reindeer will die in the Yamal. More indigenous people will settle in the villages, which can lead to social diseases, alcoholism, and other things like that. They will lose their language and traditional livelihood. I think that's the future.

    https://globalvoices.org/2020/02/20/pipeline-problems-for-indigenous-peoples-on-russias-yamal-peninsula/

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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
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  • How Do You Feel? What Do You Think?
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    2 days ago
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    2 days ago
  • A “new Society” post-COVID19 will definitely emerge. The question is: on what path?
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: Everything you need to know about the wage subsidy
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    PosseBy chloeanneking
    2 days ago
  • The massacre of prisoners in Modelo jail, Bogota, March 21
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • We are not America
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • When will we know the lockdown is working?
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    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    3 days ago
  • Lock Down: Day 1
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • A Compelling Recollection.
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    3 days ago
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Aggressive action to address climate change could save the world $145 trillion
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    3 days ago
  • After the Pandemic
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    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    4 days ago
  • Coronavirus – Cuba shows the way
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Using privacy law to prevent the death penalty
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • It’s Time For Disaster Socialism.
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    4 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #12, 2020
    Tamper with The System? Well, we already are. But there's a difference between accidentally trickling sand into a precision gearbox versus formulating a plan to alter it on the fly with improvements in mind. One action is more or less innocently unscrupulous, the other amenable to earning an easy ...
    4 days ago
  • Avoidable hospitalisations: Helping our health system get through COVID-19
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    5 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: 10 questions to ask your employer proposing redundancy
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    PosseBy chloeanneking
    5 days ago
  • An equitable way to support business
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: Together Alone
    We're about to do something unprecedented as a nation. We hope that by taking this extraordinary action before a single life in New Zealand has been lost to the deadly novel virus we will save tens of thousands of lives. Our  lives. We'll do it together, in households, in isolation ...
    5 days ago
  • Why timing is everything: ‘A time to refrain from embracing’ starts today
    “There is a time for everything,    and a season for every activity under the heavens.”So writes the author of Ecclesiastes, a book in the Old Testament that’s counted as a ‘wisdom’ book and written as if by an unnamed king of Jerusalem. But who would have thought there would be a time ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    5 days ago
  • Dealing with the Covid-19 Tsunami.
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    PunditBy Brian Easton
    5 days ago
  • What about renters?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Living within our means.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • Transparency and the pandemic
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • ‘Overjoyed’: a leading health expert on New Zealand’s coronavirus shutdown, and the challengin...
    Michael Baker, University of Otago Overjoyed. That’s not a word epidemiologists normally use, but that’s how I felt after hearing Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement about New Zealand’s COVID-19 shutdown of everything except essential services for at least four weeks from midnight on Wednesday. More than anything, I just ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • One way to solve the housing crisis
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The pros and cons of planting trees to address global warming
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bruce Lieberman It seems like such a simple, straightforward, empowering idea: plant trees – a lot of trees – all over the world, and watch the planet’s temperature fall. Who doesn’t love a tree or two, even far more – the right ...
    6 days ago
  • Not a grand coalition, but a government of national salvation
    According to Newshub, Simon Bridges is open to joining a “grand coalition” with Labour as we hunker down to go into a month long lockdown. The idea is sound. Before now, the role of the opposition was to scrutinise and oppose. In the context of what almost amounts to a ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    6 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: hospitality workers & wage subsidy entitlements
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    7 days ago
  • Lifting our game against COVID-19
    We need to be lifting our game against COVID-19. You and I need to help those working to prevent the spread of COVID-19 while they’re trying to lift the testing and treatment efforts. We don’t want to be playing this game running backwards. Best to play it solidly forward, from ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    7 days ago
  • The maths and ethics of minimising COVID-19 deaths in NZ
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    7 days ago
  • All aboard the Covid Train
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    PunditBy Phil Vine
    7 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    7 days ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Enlightenment when?
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    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
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    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
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    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
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    1 week ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
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    1 week ago
  • GFC vs Covid-19
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    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • Nobody Left Behind.
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    1 week ago
  • Rebuilding a truly “Democratic” counter, or a “moderate Republican” bolt-hol...
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Abortion law reform a win for women
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • How to spot bogus science stories and read the news like a scientist
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Why New Zealand needs to continue decisive action to contain coronavirus
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Parliament and the pandemic II
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • When a virus goes viral: pros and cons to the coronavirus spread on social media
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • How to survive 14 days of self-isolation
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    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion Legislation Bill passes third reading
    Some fave speeches:     ...
    Boots TheoryBy Stephanie Rodgers
    2 weeks ago
  • Why Leadership Matters – More Than Anything.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #11, 2020
    2 weeks ago
  • 68-51
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The ‘herd immunity’ route to fighting coronavirus is unethical and potentially dangerous
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Eight new COVID-19 cases today. It’s no surprise when you look at some numbers
    So, as I sit at home with a very, very slight headache (i.e. not at work when I would otherwise be so), the now familiar figure of Ashley Bloomfield reports eight new confirmed cases of COVID-19  including two in Waikato. A surprise, given that we had just twelve yesterday? No. ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    2 weeks ago
  • The WINZ Paradox versus the new COVID-19 Reality: Get real people, seriously…
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • The Air New Zealand bailout
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why NZ’s tough coronavirus travel rules are crucial to protecting lives at home and across the Pac...
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • The tiniest of teeth
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • One simple, common factor to success against COVID-19
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • National should isolate Simon Bridges
    The Coalition Governments $12.1 billion economic package to help combat the financial effects of COVID-19 was generally well received across the board, even amongst many business leaders who would normally be critical of a Labour led Government.However there was one glaringly obvious exception, Simon Bridges. The so-called leader of the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • How testing for Covid-19 works
    With confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand up to 12, many influential people are writing open letters and opinion pieces and doing press conferences asking why we aren’t pulling out all the stops and testing thousands of people a day like they are in South Korea. The thing is, ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    2 weeks ago
  • The COVID-19 package and the limits of capitalism
    by Daphna Whitmore The willingness to put human life before business shows that sometimes capitalism is capable of suspending its relentless drive for profit. For a short time it can behave differently. Flatten the curve is the public health message since COVID-19 suddenly overwhelmed the hospital system in northern Italy. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago

  • Week That Was: COVID-19 Alert Level 4
    The COVID-19 situation in New Zealand is moving fast - and to avoid what we've seen overseas - the Government's response must be to move fast too. We're committed to keeping New Zealanders safe and well-informed every step of the way. ...
    2 days ago
  • SPEECH: Green Party Co-leader James Shaw – Ministerial statement on State of National Emergency an...
    Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  The scale of what we face right now is unlike anything we have ever seen before. Overcoming it is our common purpose. ...
    5 days ago
  • Winston Peters urging New Zealanders overseas to stay put
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging New Zealanders overseas to stay where they are amid the COVID-19 pandemic. "We are reaching a point where the best option for most New Zealanders offshore is to shelter in place, by preparing to safely stay where they are.” "This includes following the instructions ...
    6 days ago
  • New Zealanders overseas encouraged to shelter in place
    Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging the tens of thousands of New Zealanders travelling overseas to consider sheltering in place, in light of COVID-19.  “Since 18 March, we have been warning New Zealanders offshore that the window for flying ...
    6 days ago
  • Ground-breaking abortion law passes, giving NZers compassionate healthcare
    Ground-breaking law has passed that will decriminalise abortion and ensure women and pregnant people seeking abortions have compassionate healthcare. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Package supports Kiwis to put collective health first
    The Green Party says that the measures announced by the Government today will help families and businesses to prioritise our collective health and wellbeing in the response to COVID-19. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winston Peters: COVID-19 rescue package ‘more significant’ than any worldwide
    As New Zealanders brace for a global downturn due to Covid-19, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters says his Coalition Government’s rescue package "more significant" than any other he's seen around the world. The Coalition is to reveal a multi-billion-dollar stimulus plan on Tuesday afternoon designed to cushion the economic blow ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Our response to COVID-19
    We know some people are feeling anxious about COVID-19. While the situation is serious, New Zealand has a world-class health system and we’re well-prepared to keep New Zealanders safe. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • ‘Demerit Points System’ will address youth crime
    Darroch Ball MP, Spokesperson for Law and Order A New Zealand First member’s bill drawn from the ballot today seeks to overhaul the youth justice system by instigating a system of demerit points for offences committed by young offenders. “The ‘Youth Justice Demerit Point System’ will put an end to ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Investment in kingfish farming
    Hon. Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund is investing $6 million in a land-based aquaculture pilot to see whether yellowtail kingfish can be commercially farmed in Northland, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. A recirculating land-based aquaculture system will be built and operated ...
    3 weeks ago
  • 1BT grants for Northland planting
    Hon. Shane Jones, Minister for Forestry Forestry Minister Shane Jones has announced two One Billion Trees programme grants of more than $1.18 million to help hapu and iwi in Northland restore whenua and moana. “Many communities around Aotearoa have benefited from One Billion Trees funding since the programme was launched ...
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand reaffirms support for Flight MH17 judicial process
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    3 weeks ago
  • PGF investment in green hydrogen
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    3 weeks ago
  • Coronavirus support for Pacific
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    3 weeks ago
  • Green Party passes landmark law to ensure deaf and disabled voices heard equally in democracy
    Chlöe Swarbrick's Members Bill to support disabled general election candidates has passed into law. ...
    3 weeks ago

  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
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    2 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
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    3 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
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    3 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
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    4 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
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    4 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
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    4 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
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    4 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
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    4 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
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    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
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    4 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
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    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
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    5 days ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
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    5 days ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
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    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister’s statement on State of National Emergency and Epidemic Notice
    Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
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    5 days ago
  • Deadline for domestic travel extended
    People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
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    5 days ago
  • Mortgage holiday and business finance support schemes to cushion COVID impacts
    The Government, retail banks and the Reserve Bank are today announcing a major financial support package for home owners and businesses affected by the economic impacts of COVID-19. The package will include a six month principal and interest payment holiday for mortgage holders and SME customers whose incomes have been ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government working to keep air freight moving
    Minister of Transport Phil Twyford has today announced details of the Government’s support package to keep key air freight moving and ensure New Zealanders retain access to essential goods during the four-week level 4 lockdown. “The Government is working with airlines and air freight operators to ensure New Zealand’s key ...
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    6 days ago
  • New Zealand moves to COVID-19 Alert Level 3, then Level 4 in 48 hours
    New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 3 – Restrict New Zealand to move up to COVID-19 Alert Level 4 – Eliminate, in 48 hours Two-staged approach to give people and businesses time to prepare  Level 3, from tomorrow Non-essential businesses must close All events and gatherings must be ...
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    7 days ago
  • Prime Minister: COVID-19 Alert Level increased
    Good afternoon  The Cabinet met this morning to discuss our next actions in the fight against COVID-19.  Like the rest of the world, we are facing the potential for devastating impacts from this virus. But, through decisive action, and through working together, do we have a small window to get ...
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    7 days ago
  • Govt takes significant economic decisions as NZ readies for Alert Level 4 in COVID-19 fight
    The Government is announcing significant further support for the economy, workers and businesses as the country unites to prepare for Alert Level 4 in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet today agreed to remove the cap on the Government’s wage subsidy scheme, which will inject a further $4 billion into the ...
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    7 days ago
  • Govt backs RBNZ move to support economy with lower interest rates
    The Government is backing the Reserve Bank’s latest action to support the economy by reducing longer-term interest rates, meaning lower costs for businesses and mortgage holders, and a lower currency to help our exporters. The Minister of Finance has signed a memorandum of understanding and a letter of indemnity with ...
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    7 days ago
  • Government statement on commercial cooperation during COVID-19
    The Government has asked the Commerce Commission to take account of the exceptional circumstances created by COVID-19 when monitoring business behaviour in coming weeks.   “The purpose of my request to the Commerce Commission is to make sure businesses can work together in ways that will allow them to provide ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand temporarily closes diplomatic posts in Barbados and Myanmar due to COVID-19
    The New Zealand Government has temporarily closed its High Commission in Bridgetown, Barbados and its Embassy in Yangon, Myanmar due to the COVID-19 pandemic, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Due to the increasing scarcity of air links in and out of Bridgetown and Yangon, and the pressure COVID-19 is placing ...
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    1 week ago
  • Supporting Māori communities and businesses through
    Associate Health and Whānau Ora Minister Peeni Henare has today announced the Government’s plan to support Māori communities and businesses in the face of COVID-19. “Our Government’s $12.1 billion economic package will help many Māori whānau, workers and businesses, whether it’s through wage subsidies, income support and worker redeployment, or ...
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    1 week ago
  • Guidelines for hospitality establishments released
    The Government and the hospitality industry have worked together to produce guidelines to assist with managing and reducing transmission of COVID-19, Health Minister David Clark announced today.  The guidelines developed between the Government, Hospitality New Zealand and SkyCity Entertainment Group, set out how the new restrictions on physical distancing and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Nation steps up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2
    Four stage Alert System for COVID-19 announced New Zealand moved up to COVID-19 Alert Level 2 – Reduce Contact New Zealanders over 70 and those with certain medical conditions told to stay at home as much as they can to reduce risk of contact with the virus Workplaces to implement ...
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    1 week ago
  • PM Address – Covid-19 Update
    Kia ora koutou katoa I’m speaking directly to all New Zealanders today to give you as much certainty and clarity as we can as we fight Covid-19. Over the past few weeks, the world has changed. And it has changed very quickly. In February it would have seemed unimaginable to ...
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    1 week ago
  • NZ and Singapore commit to keeping supply and trade links open, including on essential goods and med...
    New Zealand and Singapore have jointly committed to keep supply chains open and to remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the commitment. “This is an important collective response, and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Joint Ministerial Statement by Singapore and New Zealand -Covid-19 situation
    JOINT MINISTERIAL STATEMENT BY SINGAPORE AND NEW ZEALAND AFFIRMING COMMITMENT TO ENSURING SUPPLY CHAIN CONNECTIVITY AMIDST THE COVID-19 SITUATION  The COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis.  As part of our collective response to combat COVID-19, Singapore and New Zealand are committed to maintaining open and connected supply chains. We ...
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    1 week ago
  • Transit between Australia and New Zealand
    Travel restrictions, closing our border to almost all travelers came into force from 23:59 on Thursday 19 March 2020 (NZDT).  All airlines were informed of these restrictions before they came into force. Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says “The transit of passengers between Australia and New Zealand has been agreed upon and ...
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    1 week ago
  • $100 million to redeploy workers
    The Government has allocated $100 million to help redeploy workers affected by the economic impact of COVID-19, with the hard-hit region of Gisborne-Tairāwhiti to be the first helped, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford, Forestry and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Employment Minister Willie Jackson announced today. Phil Twyford ...
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    1 week ago
  • More support for wood processing
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is ramping up support for Tairāwhiti’s wood processing sector to bolster the region’s economy at a time of heightened uncertainty, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Following earlier announcements today of a regional support package for Tairāwhiti, Minister Jones has also announced a ...
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    1 week ago
  • Govt steps in to protect Air New Zealand
    The Coalition Government has stepped in to protect Air New Zealand with a significant financial deal that protects essential routes and allows the company to keep operating. The Government and Air New Zealand have agreed a debt funding agreement through commercial 24-month loan facilities of up to $900 million*. The ...
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    1 week ago
  • Stronger border measures to protect NZers from COVID-19
    The Government has taken further measures to protect New Zealanders from the COVID-19 virus, effectively stopping all people from boarding a plane to New Zealand from 11:59pm today, except for returning New Zealanders, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today.  New Zealanders’ partners, legal guardians or any dependent children travelling with ...
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    1 week ago
  • Action on indoor gatherings and events to protect public health
    The Government has reinforced its commitment to protecting the health of New Zealanders from COVID-19 through the cancellation of indoor events with more than 100 people.  “Protecting the health of New Zealanders is our number one priority, and that means we need to reduce the risks associated with large gatherings,” ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealanders advised not to travel overseas
    The New Zealand Government is advising New Zealanders not to travel overseas due to COVID-19, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “We are raising our travel advice to the highest level: do not travel,” Mr Peters said. “This is the first time the New Zealand Government has advised New Zealanders ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Govt announces aviation relief package
    Transport Minister Phil Twyford today outlined the first tranche of the $600 million aviation sector relief package announced earlier this week as part of the Government’s $12.1 billion COVID-19 economic response. The initial part of the aviation package aims to secure the operators of New Zealand’s aviation security system, and ...
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    2 weeks ago