It’s the only way we’ll get some decency and better behaviour back into these money making messaging houses. Fine them, money is the only language they respond to.
The issue is they wouldn’t know how to behave like a serious responsible media outlet, they know that after moving toward a driven from the top model.
Collins passed up on a regulator stating they can look after themselves…..she should be made to eat that statement every time she pops her nasty head above the national parapet.
The govt must have bollocks, timings pretty good. Granny’s just handed them a starter for 10. Flush out the horror show that is RNZ currently also.
This kind of thing has been playing on my mind, and likely others, for the week.
Tales for the Terrorist.
Somewhere, isolated in a reinforced concrete cell, sits NZ’s public enemy number one. Of all the things we’d like to say to him kindness and compassion might not even make the list.
Let’s be clear here, I am coming from a place of revenge and vengeance, I want this man to suffer 50 lifetimes worth of shame and guilt. But as he has no shame, other measures are called for.
I want this man to have paraded before him the media of love and compassion. The murals of Muslim heroes, the story of Eggboy, the coverage of the outpouring of love and solidarity New Zealanders have shown in this time of need.
In Stanley Kubrick’s ‘A Clockwork Orange’, Alex was subject to ‘therapy’ consisting of enforced media of atrocities and violence. I want this terrorist to suffer a similar fate but flipped around. The media of love and kindness, relentlessly portrayed.
I want him to see the hakas, the Mob members who’ve ditched the Nazi regalia, the social media mouthpieces who have suddenly gone silent as they furiously delete and delete. I want him to see that he has brought into light a cancer we needed to excise – and that the scalpels are out.
I want daily press releases of white supremacists getting locked up read to his cell. I want Trumps downfall broadcast to him in detail.
I want him to see the image of Jacinda hugging a woman adorning the highest building in the world. I want him to see Arabic commentators from around the world praise her. I want him to see commentators of hate being shamed and called out. I want him to hear of all the divestment from platforms of hate.
I want him to know his literary efforts are pathetic, and also banned. That his name is fading, and all his stupid chan buddies are due for a door knock.
I want to remind him he started something his dumb brain could never comprehend. A movement of love and compassion spreading virally through the world.
I want him to see me today, a white man, planting flowers for the local Mosque.
I want him to know he is the loser every day for the rest of his pathetic life.
Yesterday BBC announced that Teresa May was left in a dark dim room with no windows in Brussels sitting in that room left alone for five hours waiting for a meeting with the EU to request an extension of the Brexit deal.
Looks as if Brussels is teaching the British leader how isolated she will be, when UK leaves the EU?
They are staunch arse-holes that I would be glad to also leave on my plate as they are also demanding UK pay $32Billion EU to leave without a deal!!!!!!!.
cleangreen
You are letting your emotions stop you from looking at the whole picture. It may be helpful if on this thread we looked at matters from the EUs point of view and
that of stability in Europe of nations that are doing as well as can be expected in these times. We have had an example right in our country of government throwing aside a system for a promise of another supposedly better one. I am not impressed with the new system yet it seems we are stuck with it, and getting stucker by the moment. It seems a new situation, and deserves a new word – ‘stucker’ which rhymes with sucker.
Okay ScottGN
A very therapeutic, short and sweet rant. After the release of emotion, then comes the application of reason. A short fart and then work at the other end of the body eh!
You can spare me the condescending drivel greywarshark.
Your comment at 2.1.1 is meaningless rubbish really.
cleangreen was merely making the observation (as have a fair few others too) that Brussels, in their efforts to remind other eurosceptic-minded members that leaving is going to be really, really tough haven’t really given brexit voters in the UK much reason to reconsider.
The PM May, the Tory government and in fact the whole political establishment in the UK has, become a total, dysfunctional mess but the EU grandees in Brussels should take some responsibility for that state of affairs too.
Your drivel is better than mine ScottGN. If cleangreen decided I was wrong he can say so himself. You don’t have to pile in with your sour negative beating up. I don’t like the way that this is happening on this blog. So just talk about the subject. I was jokey. You could be too if you knew how. If you disagree – put your own POV up as you have and don’t think that you can take me down as seems to be an attitude amongst some here.
Not interested in taking anyone down greywarshark. I was simply trying to communicate the idea that I agreed with cleangreen. Maybe I shouldn’t have replied to your reply to cleangreen, anything, anywhere to do with Brexit seems to have become hyper difficult as the mess has intensified. Sorry if I missed your jokey tone, though I find that humour often gets missed in these sorts of environments.
I wanted to demonstrate what a set of ‘bad actors’ the EU lot are, and by treating one of the most ‘enduing nations’ of Europe who stood up for those nations enslaved under the NAZI regime, in two bloody wars that bankrupted Britain after they restored Germany to economic health after the Marshall Plan was agreed to in 1946/47.
So now that Britain has chosen to take its own path, let them do this with the dignity they greatly deserve, not shut their leader in a dark windowless room without company for 5 hours.
That is disgraceful to say it kindly.
I as a Auckland born kiwi, married an English Rose in Toronto in 1976 and we have a very enduring partnership today that has taught me to respect the English for their ‘enduring grace and kindness so I felt the need to stick up for my English part of our family here.
Incidentally I was born on the very day the British and Americans marched into Paris to ‘Liberate’ Paris and take the City back from the NAZI’s. 25th August 1944.
He wanted to sow discord and hate and see his name everywhere. I’d like him to see that he failed. He imagined a media filled with revenge attacks and chaos. He failed. He utterly failed.
I want him to see all the Muslim leaders applaud as Winston tells them he’ll spend the rest of his life in isolation. I want him to see close ups of their smiles.
I’ve read your comments, you are much smarter than this one.
I’m a bit concerned that (some of) my motives in the post are from a dark place. The desire for revenge is understandable but ultimately adds pain to pain. My concerns for me are not my largest concern however.
Many people are feeling a desire for revenge. So we are not alien, and it is healthier to be honest about this crap.
Love and hate emanating from the same soul. It can be confusing. They say the two cannot exist together. I think we’re more complex than twee proverbs.
The desire for revenge in people who (at the very least perceive they) have been minimized is palpable. The word utu has been used lately and it is not an invalid thought.
When you harm a stoic people they show strength and mana as they lend their persecutors seemingly endless rope. But when you attack their guests you cross the line. Lifetimes of restraint might be pulled taught like crossbow strings, to be unleashed by such a heinous insult.
I ask Maori people and other minorities who’ve had a gutsful:
Please consider that we must fight the institutions to stamp out institutionalized racism. That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge. That the fuse point has been lit and we might implode and destroy ourselves or explode into the world an example it desperately needs.
We who have inhaled the long white cloud
To dream upon its hills
Do you remember then the call to peace
To embrace our Mother Earth.
“I ask Maori people and other minorities who’ve had a gutsful:
Please consider that we must fight the institutions to stamp out institutionalized racism. That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge. That the fuse point has been lit and we might implode and destroy ourselves or explode into the world an example it desperately needs.”
I’m Māori.
“That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge.”
Why you think that applies to me, let alone all Māori people and other minorities, is an good example of entrenched racism.
How casual and well-meaning, but ultimately misplaced is your comment, where you indulge and openly acknowledge personal revenge scenarios, and then follow up with a exhortation to Māori to control themselves.
Have a look again at your comment WTB, and see if you recognise it.
Thanks WTB. I appreciate you taking the time to consider my comment.
“I do not assume that includes you and apologise if my statement was too broad.”
Using the term Māori and other minoritieswas lazy and racist, whether you meant that generalisation or not.
It is an accepted turn of phrase to use the collective Māori, when speaking about anything to do with Te Ao Māori, or any group or individual within it. This acceptance unfortunately feeds the prejudice as news items and commentary is often dealing with negative actions or issues, and so the collective gets the blame in this way, every time.
” I was replying to a call for utu that I have heard from three sources now.”
Three Māori individuals or sources do not speak for the Māori race or indeed Māori tikanga – that excuse is quite lame.
You have got it absolutely spot on in your last sentence: “I should have appealed to all people considering a violent reaction.”, but I’m not yet sure that you understand how entrenched this is in NZ to speak in this way about Māori, and other minority groups.
(I used to do it myself without thinking, and had to train myself to do otherwise. Still slip up every now and then, though.)
A friend and I took Margaret Mutu’s Te Ao Maori at Auckland University. It was an eye opener for sure. We suffered white guilt for some time I had no idea. After the guilt I felt quite furious.
In my wild youth they called me n***** lover in various places and I got a couple of my scars defending my right to not be a nazi.
So now, how could I possibly be patronising 😀 (joking)
So easy to be mindless aye. Today I went to do some planting work, threw on some socks only figuring they were thermal when I got out in the sun. Talk about sweat and suffer. Why? It was at a Moslem Temple and I didn’t know if bare feet would be wrong or shirtless even though we were outside and I was too shy to ask thinking they must’ve had enough patronising white folks for the day… Such a dick.
I’ll screw three things up tomorrow. And hopefully learn four.
“Why? It was at a Moslem Temple and I didn’t know if bare feet would be wrong or shirtless even though we were outside and I was too shy to ask thinking they must’ve had enough patronising white folks for the day… Such a dick”
… and such a lovely person. The human condition.
Gardening is such an inclusive activity and endeavour, what an ideal way to practice common-unity. (BTW, A much better way to spend the day than mine, walking into scaffolding poles and trying to install guttering.)
I’m surprised to learn that we’re feeding that wolf.
“One evening, an elderly Cherokee brave told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, ‘My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other wolf is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.’
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked, ‘Grandpa, which wolf wins?’
The old Cherokee simply replied, ‘The one that you feed.’”
There is a classic example of inappropriate and unhelpful “whataboutery” in the Weekend Herald opinion section. The reference to Nigeria is exactly what the Snope article is referring to – I have others referring to the same “incident” so clearly they are quoting from the same website.
If I could give one suggestion … that is to do a couple of quotes from your link …. for the people who do not click through .
That way their view / information makes it onto TS pages ….
“Memes about how many people have been killed by Muslims are definitely going around” on social media in the aftermath of New Zealand, said Elon University computer science Professor Megan Squire. “It’s whataboutism. It’s just classic, ‘Hey, look over there’ misdirection.”
“Research shows that crimes committed by Muslims receive vastly more media attention than similar acts committed by non-Muslims.”
“A January 2019 report published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that every fatal act of violence resulting from extremism in the U.S. in 2018 was linked to far-right ideologies. ”
“The ( NZ ) killings also coincided with a surge of anti-Muslim hate crimes in other regions of the world, including the United Kingdom and Canada, while in the U.S., such crimes have spiked to all-time highs. ”
“Meanwhile, researchers at the University of Warwick in England have found a strong statistical correlation between tweets posted by U.S. President Donald Trump on Islam-related topics and anti-Muslim hate crimes.
The New Zealand massacre drew attention to what Suleiman sees as related problems: the proliferation of anti-Muslim hate speech on the internet, the mainstreaming of such rhetoric, and the willingness of some who consume such material to take that online activity into the real world with acts of violence and intimidation.”
Changing the names from the usa link …. and seeing if the NZ shoe fits …
Some people doubt the scale of Islamophobia in the media, claim it is limited to certain views of Karl du Frense, Ian Wishhart and Judith Collins, and believe the far-right attitudes come from extreme rather than mainstream sources. This thread aims to challenge such assumptions.
Islam as an ideology, as practised in Islamic nations and as taught in many western countries, is fundamentally incompatible with a modern liberal democracy. There are many Muslims who are calling for an Islamic reformation, unfortunately their voices are, as yet, not being heard.
““A January 2019 report published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that every fatal act of violence resulting from extremism in the U.S. in 2018 was linked to far-right ideologies. ””
Which is a good illustration of why the ADL have zero credibility. Firstly because they have conveniently limited the ‘acts of violence’ to those that caused death, and secondly because they missed at least one causing death by a convert to Islam who stabbed 3 people (killing 1) on 12th March 2018.
“…while in the U.S., such crimes have spiked to all-time highs. ””
If that is true, it is hardly surprising given the hatred being preached across the US by Islamic leaders, particularly anti-Semitic diatribes.
Your a dishonest fool Shadrach …. Islamic extremism has been financed and fueled ever since we called Osama Bin Laden a freedom fighter ….. ” The Muslim Terrorist Apparatus was Created by US Intelligence as a Geopolitical Weapon ”
” Brzezinski. He confirms what opponents have charged: that the US began covert sponsorship of Muslim extremists five months *before* the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.”
…” they have used it continuously; and that we are seeing the fruits of this policy. Most recently we have seen the real essence of the Brzezinski doctrine in the horrendous events this past week in Russia (culminating in the school attack) and Israel (the double bus bombing).”
exceropt of a interview with Brezinski ,,,Brezinski can be compared to Kissinger…..
“Le Nouvel Observateur: And also, don’t you regret having helped future terrorists, having given them weapons and advice?
Zbigniew Brzezinski: What is most important for world history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? Some Islamic hotheads or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war? ”
Le Nouvel Observateur: “Some hotheads?” But it has been said time and time again: today Islamic fundamentalism represents a world-wide threat…
And here is our Muslim ‘extremists’ who you are fear-mongering against Shradrach …. you could learn something from them …. your a disgrace to normal NZers
True that!
And those wolves are inherent in everyone and across faiths and religions.
Sikhs (for example) have the 5 Virtues and the 5 Thieves, others have something similar.
The Virtues: Sat, Santokh, Daya, Nimrata and Pyaar – or loosely – Truth, Contentment, Compassion, Humility/Benevolence and Love
The Thieves: Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Hankaar – or loosely – Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment (to materialism), and Ego/Pride
It seems the Thieves are constantly being fed both consciously and unconsciously, and too often it’s all too hard for the Virtues to survive
Reminds me of one bit of lore i know coming from Confucius:
The Three Ways of Acquiring Wisdom – one being taught it as you grow up, the second observing and learning from events and others around you, and the third by personal experience – the bitterest.
For NZ as an entity we have just had an example of the third. It will be bitter indeed if we can’t acquire wisdom as a result of it.
I don’t (now) subscribe to any religion although I do occasionally go to a couple of places of worship with friends and family, and I subscribe to the concept of the ‘Virtues and Thieves’.
The reason being that too often I see various values (not necessarily those as defined above) becoming ritualistic rather than actual belief and practice. Especially so when I see a couple of our politicians constantly veering toward thievery and generally hell bent on making life hard for others. I’m not sure how else to explain it.
Good rave Owt. And I can see why minorities get angry. But I would rather they stick to methods of politeness; and also why we
should try everything along that line until it shows its getting nowhere. And then contemplate other ways.
Think of how the Brit women acted to get the vote.
They had asked for it and been put off.
They served in one of the early wars, Boer and/or WW1 to show that they were individuals who could act as loyal citizens and then asked for the vote and were put off.
They had to sacrifice themselves, make a nuisance of themselves that couldn’t be brushed off. They chained themselves to monuments to formal, pompous government. They were jailed. They went on a hunger strike. They were force-fed with tubes put down into their stomachs. One threw herself onto the public racetrack to die under the Queen’s racehorse.
That was acting against the establishment without making everyone a victim.
But it is better if we can be firm and stick to the kaupapa, like Tuhoe. Be invaded by the country’s forces and put through the trauma of that and being taken to Court. And hold firm and get your Treaty settlement. That is an example of superior strategy and high collective control and mana equal to Ghandis. That has not been understood and honoured by most NZs.
I don’t know if this actually speaks to your comment. But I just wanted to say it all anyway. Let’s press forward being kind to each other, and trying to keep on track, so we can work collectively and well to initiate what we can after thinking, deciding, planning – to cope with the frightening future. We may have to sacrifice ourselves, have a shorter life than we and others expect, but look for worthy, good-natured companions. Without bloodshed and grief that could be avoided.
I like the French group singing with Edith Piaf who seem to represent the strength and togetherness of the French after WW2 and belief that they have something good that will triumph over the dark past. Their religion is to the fore in this video, with nostalgic model village, which has brought dark moments itself, yet one feels that they will overcome this also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gucL2YziPo
This is the group with Edith Piaf on stage.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuKLxx-ETY
I’m not in total disagreement with you @ grey.
But I also remember how we used to treat the battered wife (the woifey, the missus, the possession) constantly being given the biff and told to get back in the kitchen.
At one time, we’d remind her of the sanctity of marriage, then marriage guidance – which if nothing was resolved, a few more appointments, then a few more, then a few more might help.
Now the best advice is to get the hell out of there in the first instance. And in some cases it takes a bloody crane to get her to do so.
Yesterday’s Open Mike was a bit of an eye-opener to me I have to say.
Consider https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-03-2019/#comment-1599314.
After all the hand wringing, and in a lot of cases, exercising of egos and all that went on in that thread – I got 2 replies: WtB and Anne – both of whom I pick have suffered a bit of shit in their lives.
Realistically, the guy that assaulted my ‘second/extended’ family member is not going to change without a fight. (He’s sooooo tuff).
I posted it because I was interested in the reactions.
I (actually he, the victim – because it’s his decision) has a few options – such as an assault complaint, the HRC, and even INZ who could, and should rescind the prick’s visa.
But like others have experienced, results in the past haven’t been all that flash.
just a P.S.
The only thing I feel the need to comply with are the terms and conditions of this site, although I do appreciate some might be offended within those confines.
(I’m half expecting an @ Wayne to pop up at any moment with some sage advice preaching an Alfred Lord Fuckywucky’s idea on law – I’ll remember the Good Lord’s real name the minute I hit the key )
“The story was first published in a 1978 book called “The Holy Spirit: Activating God’s Power in Your Life,” by Billy Graham. Graham admitted he invented the story for a sermon some 40 years ago.
…The story was meant to drive home the concept that we are all born with evil inside us. Our inner darkness, or the “original sin” if you will.
…Which is ironic, because he used a Native American elder to tell a story that a Native American elder would never tell because it’s centered in Christian belief not Native American beliefs.”
Hi Marty.
That’s an interesting bit of background information. I’m not surprised the wolf story is a construct – it sounds “twee”, like the starfish on the beach and other stories of that nature. I didn’t read it as “original sin” at all, more the tendency to catastrophise, attack, blame, plot revenge, replay horror scenes in our minds; all things that humans do (I think) and suffer accordingly. One “wolf” is that soul-destroying behaviour, the other, forgiveness and avoidance of indulging in such thoughts. The response from the Muslim community in New Zealand seems to be to have chosen the life-affirming path, where others are churning through thoughts of revenge and punishment.
That’s how I see it anyway. I’m pretty sure there are religious leaders who have noticed the phenomenon and preached forgiveness as a tool for freeing one’s self of the wolf that gnaws.
“In Stanley Kubrick’s ‘A Clockwork Orange’, Alex was subject to ‘therapy’ consisting of enforced media of atrocities and violence. I want this terrorist to suffer a similar fate but flipped around. The media of love and kindness, relentlessly portrayed”
Don’t know if this would work, but I do quite like the idea, maybe done over a long period of time in very slow and subtle ways, carefully curating all his movie, book, media intake etc, of course at the same time have the right people dive deep into the reasons why he ended up internalizing so much hate and anger.
Adrian That is an interesting idea. Alex was left very sensitive and almost like a goat in a pride of lions, and on a measure of mind strength as vulnerable as he was callous and vicious before.
But your idea could give a new meaning to brain ‘washing’. Wiping the layers of dirt and festering nasty ideas away. Trying to fill his brain for a length of time with positive things, visualisation of himself as a powerfully good person, and overcoming the bad things he comes across, or tolerating the small things as not to make them seem part of a bad tapestry but more like occasional insect bites.
If it worked he might come out being like Superman or Batman or one of the Heroes in popular culture. That would be better I think.
Incognito
One of my reckons is that we are probably so smart that we can do all our own brainwashing, or not. Uncertainty. I would like to come here and be filled with positivity when I get up to rush off and spread it around.
Unfortunately I am not smart, and keep coming here and try to put positivity in, and get negativity back. Some times I turn and try putting negativity in to see if its like a match and I can strike a wee flame of positivity, but rising damp usually prevails. I keep trying though. How long is too long? Why should I give my good stuff away, and get brown things that some say are beans back. Will they grow I wonder, and if so, into what?
One calls it brainwashing, another calls it (re-)education.
If we know how turn (convert) somebody who has committed atrocities into a ‘Super Hero’ why do we wait, why don’t we get on with it and turn all of us into super heroes? My guess is that we don’t know shit about these things and increasing societal problems are not just signs, they are evidence of our ignorance, denial, and refusal to learn and adapt. Just look at our bulging prison population, or (domestic) violence, or …
Due to its dualistic nature, there is no positivity without negativity. You need both to get work done.
You keep trying till you give up but you will never stop moving.
I have the permaculture people to thank, it was their idea and I asked to help. It was very cathartic for me.
You might like what happened next too.
At the bus stop going home I caught an obviously distressed guys eye and smiled. He came over and sat down, and no bull, the conversation goes
“How are you today”
“Well I’ve taken all my medication, but I’m still really upset.
My girl said she loved me then went off with her ex. Mum says there’s plenty of fish in the ocean but I’m still really sad”
“Well of course you are sad. Losing someone hurts.”
“Yes” and he smiles.
His halitosis was peeling paint off the bus seat.
“It’s good you’ve recognized that taking your medication is important when you are feeling hurt, but what about your other self care. Have you eaten today?”
“No”
“Yeah it’s hard to even think of eating sometimes. But it’s important, especially when we’re upset, to take care of ourselves. When I’m upset, I eat pies. Mince and cheese, yum. I like to eat the pie and think about the pie and be grateful for the wonderful pie.”
He laughs.
My bus was pulling in.
“I’m sorry, I have to go, will you be OK”
“Yes” he says.
He gets up and moves off, across the front of the bus as I board. I watch him cross the road, head up, he turns the corner and goes into Wendys.
Less of the old softy eh!
Maybe a bit more of what is the natural (before a shitload of dysfuntion and artificial construct came along to disrupt it all).
And try not to laugh when they all end up wearing their various colosotmy bags trying to keep it all in, within their own perceptions of a polite company.
MSM for example are scurrying around now if you hadn’t noticed (as is dear wee Soimon) trying hard to present themselves as people familiar with a bit of humility – some with an even harder row to hoe, trying to protest their membership to the human race.
And Jesus ….. even Soimon is trying his best to redeem himself by calling for a Royl Kwoiry whilst toding his best not to appear as a cunning shithouse rat who’s more familiar with scuttling up a darinpipe.
I’m not sure of the Caci Clinic’s base hourly rate, nor that of the spin doctor’s fee, or even what the newly discovered Murry is expected to pay to gai membership.
The mathematics of it all should be obvious, even tho’ we might not live to see it all play out
@PB – you really really are awful (but I like you)
Climate change now showing it’s devastating effects in Southern Africa now sadly.
BBC today showed that helicopters flew over central Africa and it looked like an inland sea and the aid rescue was abandoned when the Helicopter failed to locate the “usual land markers” as they were all submersed under water. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-47609136
Here is a guy telling climate change like I don’t want to know about. Got to take my medicine though, knowing that it might not make me better but I have to at least listen.
This is what the world will be like if we do not act on climate change.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17aE91SBMoY
Big Think
Published on Mar 14, 2019
– The best-case scenario of climate change is that world gets just 2°C hotter, which scientists call the “threshold of catastrophe”.
– Why is that the good news? Because if humans don’t change course now, the planet is on a trajectory to reach 4°C at the end of this century, which would bring $600 trillion in global climate damages, double the warfare, and a refugee crisis 100x worse than the Syrian exodus.
– David Wallace-Wells explains what would happen at an 8°C and even 13°C increase. These predictions are horrifying, but should not scare us into complacency. “It should make us focus on them more intently,” he says.
David Wallace-Wells is a national fellow at the New America foundation and a columnist and deputy editor at New York magazine. He was previously the deputy editor of The Paris Review. He lives in New York City. His latest book is The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming (https://goo.gl/ih35YX)
Increased solar activity could be related: “BIG SUNSPOT: Four days ago, sunspot AR2736 didn’t exist. Now the rapidly-growing active region stretches across more than 100,000 km of the solar surface and contains multiple dark cores larger than Earth. Moreover, it has a complicated magnetic field that is crackling with C-class solar flares…”
It seems that on the day of the massacre in Christchurch, that the police and the SAS were coincidentally conducting a full blown mass shooting incident exercise in the city. And could not have been better prepared to react to the mass shooting when it broke out.
‘Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun’
Is the NRA now advocating that all muslims should be armed?
‘After the Sandy Hook massacre in 2012NRA chairman Wayne LaPierre doubled down on its pro-gun stance, rejecting any gun control and blaming violent video games instead’
‘”Isn’t fantasising about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography.”
When these ‘men’ at gun clubs are firing their MSSA at silhouettes of people Wayne, what are they fantasizing about? can you be sure about what they are thinking? perhaps some of your members are getting kicks out of exactly that?
The NRA would have everyone at every mosque and church and temple armed with loaded weapons. All would be facing towards the doors so they could not be surprised by evil entrants with murderous intent behind them.
Yet with all that expert firepower on the spot, guns contributed somewhere between very little and precisely zero to stopping and apprehending the fuckwit.
He was driven off from his second attack at the Linwood mosque by a good man who grabbed the nearest solid object as a makeshift weapon. Then as he was driving away, skilled police driving stopped his car and officers manhandled him out of the car and onto the ground.
I have yet to see any reports that even a single shot was actually fired at the fuckwit. At most, it’s possible that having a gun pointed at him in his disabled car might have persuaded him to get out of his car relatively quietly rather than trying to grab one of his remaining guns to carry on his fuckwittery.
edit: But “good man with a gun” fantasies contributed to making the situation even worse, when at least one private citizen turned up with a gun, diverting police attention and resources to dealing with an apparently expanded threat.
The ‘good man with a gun’ theory explodes quickly as good men probably won’t all arrive at the same time. The first good man to arrive finds the bad man shooting. The second good man to arrive sees two people shooting, the third good man finds……you get the picture. Even if the first good man puts the shooter down, the second good man to arrive sees a man with a gun and people down. I don’t think he’s going to conduct an interview to determine if the armed man standing is good or bad. And the problem escalates from there.
How to solve a moral dilemma and avoid an existential crisis.
When not sure whether you are a good or a bad guy, find a good guy, tell them they are a good guy, and then ask them whether you are a good guy. The answer will set you free.
When not sure whether you are a good or a bad guy, find a bad guy, tell them they are a bad guy, and then ask them whether you are a bad guy. The answer will set you free.
“‘Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun’”
The Christchurch lunatic thought he WAS “the good guy with a gun” FFS.
When it comes to front-line law ‘n order I would prefer on the whole to leave the determination of who are the good guys and the bad guys to an uncorrupted, tax-payer funded police force.
NRA are lunatics – declare them a terrorist organisation and arrest and deport any one of them who comes here.
Fossil fuel execs recorded having a giggle at a Ritz Carlton ….but her emails!
Trump himself was a driving force behind deregulating the energy industry, ordering the government in 2017 to weed out federal rules “that unnecessarily encumber energy production.” In a 2017 order, Zinke called for his deputy secretary—Bernhardt—to make sure the department complied with Trump’s regulatory rollbacks.
The petroleum association was just one industry group pushing for regulatory relief — the American Petroleum Institute, the U.S. Oil and Gas Association and the Western Energy Alliance also were active. But since IPAA created its wish list, the Interior Department has acceded to nearly all its requests:
* Rescinded fracking rules meant to control water pollution.
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* Withdrawn rules that limit climate-change causing methane gas releases.
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* Abandoned environmental restoration of public land damaged by oil development.
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* Ended long-standing protections for migratory birds.
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“Scott Pruitt, he came from Oklahoma, and we have a lot of friends in common and I thought that’s what we were going to talk about, we did that for about three minutes,” Russell said. “And then he started asking very technical questions about methane, about ozone … and if Scott Pruitt thought he was going to go deep nerd …”
The audience began laughing.
“And what was really great is there was about four or five EPA staffers there, who were all like, ‘Write that down, write that down,’ all the way through this,’’ Russell continued. “And when we left, I said that was just our overview.”
The audience laughed again.
“So it’s really a new world for us and very, very helpful.”
this is what you get when you vote for a destroyer rather then a bridge builder who may not build the best bridges but who at least does not burn down the last bridge usable.
So no they and all his enablers and facilitators and excuse makers shall reap the misery they planted.
Its gonna suck for us too, but chances are we will be better prepared as we don’t expect anything but a burned to the ground earth.
This academic specialising in history and watching the white supremacist movement gave a learning experience to me. I knew that there were large groups devoted to the idea, but didn’t take in the breadth. It seems a cult, a bit like Exclusive Brethren in that they divide off from society in their commitments to each other, just interfacing with society as required to do well; are actually hostile to society, but keeping this hidden most of the time.
Professor Kathleen Belew: Christchurch terrorist driven by classic white power ideologies
The Associate Professor of U.S. History and the College at the University of Chicago is the author of Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. In the book she says the soldiers of white power — which the alleged Christchurch mosque shooter claimed to be — “are not lone wolves but highly organised cadres motivated by a coherent and deeply troubling worldview of white supremacy, anticommunism and apocalypse”.
She joins the show to look at the case of the Christchurch shooter and how his tragic story is just the latest in a shocking series of violent events carried out by a small section of society hellbent on starting a race war
This weeks episode of The Listening Post … first story up the medias reaction to the terrorist attack in ChCh. It’s a MUST watch, the story on ChCh is excellent, IMHO.
If the scum bag grew up in Aussie, did the media play a part? Rupert Murdoch…. the narrative his publications spin is in part to blame for the tragedy in ChCh.
Murdoch has been using his media monopoly in Aussie to fuel Islamophobia for decades. Lining his pockets with click bait headlines which distort reality and push a much more sinister agenda.
Media as accessory to the crime?
Nothing comes from nothing: we trace the history of Islamophobia in the western media
(first story up, around 10 mins long)
the politicians role, growing up under Howard in OZ, Bush in the US and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and the beginning of endless war would have also had an affect.
Cinny, that episode highlights why I try and call out the fish wrap aka the herald every time they publish some blatantly biased political propaganda by the usual poodles who we are now all hopefully aware of.
The “white redemption” angle is interesting and needs further investigation. The media versus the media, screening by the media, at a media outlet near you could be the bleeding edge journalism of the times.
I would have to think that Jacinda Ardern’s response was purely her humanity on display and not some act to be part of an organised “white redemption” by media. The media, wittingly or unwittingly, have been using the Goebbels playbook for over half a century.
“While the whole country is mourning, and we as a nation are having to confront the white supremacy which we let grow in our backyard, we at The Pantograph Punch think it is of the utmost importance to ensure we are continuing to centre the voices of our Muslim brothers and sisters. Following the terrorist attack on the Muslim community in Ōtautahi, we’ve compiled an incomplete reading list of voices to listen to, from Muslim perspectives surround the attacks, how to combat white defensiveness and how to talk about tragedies to our children.”
Heat the pot and it will boil over – stochastic terrorism.
Using the Anti-Defamation League’s Hate, Extremism, Anti-Semitism, Terrorism map data (HEAT map), we examined whether there was a correlation between the counties that hosted one of Trump’s 275 presidential campaign rallies in 2016 and increased incidents of hate crimes in subsequent months.
To test this, we aggregated hate-crime incident data and Trump rally data to the county level and then used statistical tools to estimate a rally’s impact. We included controls for factors such as the county’s crime rates, its number of active hate groups, its minority populations, its percentage with college educations, its location in the country and the month when the rallies occurred.
We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.
Of course, our analysis cannot be certain it was Trump’s campaign rally rhetoric that caused people to commit more hate crimes in the host county. However, suggestions that this effect can be explained through a plethora of faux hate crimes are at best unrealistic. In fact, this charge is frequently used as a political tool to dismiss concerns about hate crimes. Research shows it is far more likely that hate crime statistics are considerably lower because of underreporting.
We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.
Is anyone really surprised with this? His rallies are little more than a rant of vitriol; spouting violence, bigotry, and hate. The true believers are numbed beyond reason and emerge from these rallies full of mindless cant. Whatever he says – that is what they will believe. The Trumpist cult is here and now, full of religious fervour, and willing to do his bidding.
Air NZ has parted company with Virgin over Tasman. Virgin had a consequent drop in business and may have to revert to its budget arm Tiger.
Airnz also seems to be cuddling up to Qantas, a koala bear with sharp teeth. But it is playing a long game which it hopes will win, but Qantas has slit our tyres before.
Earlier,Air New Zealand was pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into Virgin, lifting its equity stake to 26 per cent, and answered the call for more cash five years ago at a time when it was fighting a brutal domestic capacity war with Qantas, then on its knees because of international losses….
About seven million passengers last year crossed the Tasman, regarded as one of the most hotly contested airline routes in the world.
For Virgin, the Tasman represents about 5 per cent of its capacity – it makes its money flying the dense eastern Australian domestic routes. But for Air NZ, the Tasman is where it has around 22 per cent of its seats. It has to get it right….
Luxon and Virgin Australia’s chief executive John Borghetti, who by one account haven’t spoken in two years…
Borghetti – who missed out on the top job at Qantas in 2010 -and Luxon are polar opposites.
Both has their own style: Borghetti, with his tailored Italian suits and fast cars, is different to Luxon, a non-drinking Christian (and someone who has previously talked of his interest in a decidedly un-flashy car – a 1966 Riley Elf). The pair clashed when Luxon sat on the Virgin board…
Virgin is now in improving financial shape, in August posting its best underlying result in 10 years, and Borghetti is due to leave the airline within the next year.
Airnz had reps in Australia, who seem to have built up kudos with Qantas . Former Air New Zealand executives Lesley Grant and Andrew David were among the Qantas team, there with Air NZ’s chief revenue officer Cam Wallace.
The Australian airline carries about 24 million passengers a year, with about 5 per cent of that capacity on the Tasman routes….
Air New Zealand, which has about 39 per cent of Tasman traffic, is operating now more widebody jets across the Tasman now and has put more capacity into Brisbane.
There is no room for complacency in the airline market obviously. It appears that there will be competitive pricing across the Tasman for the near future.
Just thinking re above the viewpoint is all about growth still. And somewhere in the articles I was reading it said that Australia is the biggest by far for incoming passengers to NZ. We could start introducing Visas and have a range of results, including cutting our airline traffic between countries to a manageable level. And
perhaps look at having our AirNZ employees working for the country’s best interests and not their own. I find it hard to think that they could think entirely clearly about NZ when they might be offered a job in Qantas for being a good co-operative player between the two companies when the individual thought fit.
No argument with what you’ve just said. Also, the more your remaining meat consumption is shifted away from ruminants (cows, sheep, deer, goats) to non-ruminants like chicken, pork, horse, the better for the environment and climate.
I just enjoy seeing obnoxious sanctimonious show-off prats get busted for hypocrisy.
Attached are about 1800 comments. About halfway through they became more and more vile and include calls for the “assassination of NZ PM”. No, I’m not going to use her name.
The majority of the vile comments come from people with English sounding names and good English skills.
I’m a little concerned about the safety of our Prime Minister, particularly after the global praise for her leadership. It’s at times like these, when a socially conscious leader is drawing huge support that they are most at risk.
I hope her detail and the police in general have recognised the increased threat from right wing extremists against Jacinda Ardern. Already frothing at the bit, I suspect some will begin to go into full meltdown at the sight of among other things, her image on the tallest building in the world embracing Muslins, and the idea she would be nominated for a Nobel peace prize.
I’m sure the authorities are well aware and protection has been hugely increased. The thing is, it’s going to have to continue at an optimum level for a long time.
I hope this event and the PM’s response has helped them take a step back and review their values but I suspect most will double down.
They are already arguing that their speech is being threatened but just how much oppressive speech by the most powerful group in the world should be let go?
The same chilling fears for Jacinda Ardern’s safety also struck me. Without wanting to sound bloodthirsty, I think, or hope, that even the nuttiest Super-Right nutter would have to consider that Jacinda is the mother of a young child, one of the most popular PMs we have had at this time, and anyone who hurt her would be likely to have a very hard time in prison, maybe be lucky to make it to court alive (look at Lee Harvey Oswald), and be bloody lucky to live comfortably afterwards… I hope the fear goes both ways and works as a deterrent.
Horribly uncivilised, but some people work at that horribly uncivilised level – like that cretin last Friday.
Stuff’s editors’ picks: Parliament’s mass staff walkout.
Stuff’s most popular: Nearly 30 back office workers have quit Parliament in three months.
The headlines in Stuff’s politics section: Parliament’s mass staff walkout. Parliament’s back office staff are quitting in droves, costing taxpayers almost $250,000.
Turns out it the exact number is 28, five of whom were executives and it included one retirement. This is from a total of “just over 700 staff” with no data given for the ‘normal’ churn.
It’s understood many of those who have left worked in human resources.
I got a very different impression from those headlines.
After a very quick search I found that “the average turnover rate is around 10 percent” and that last year the turnover was at an all-time high of 16%.
I think that someone expressed an opinion about parliamentary staff and how they would find it hard to change from their basic behaviour over the last nine years of National. Perhaps that accounts for the 16% that left last year. There may be a chance of having a new approach to the politicians passing through, and the people they administer policies to.
Yes, but I was intrigued how these headlines raise an expectation (with me) before even reading the article. The manufacturing (of consent or discontent) process acts through very simple cues, especially when placed ‘at eye level’.
It has now moved to the National section on Stuff’s landing page (online front page), with a photo. So, clearly they (?) want people to read it …
Actually I’v quickly done the maths on the back of my overdue tax return: don’t answer the above question unless you’re sure you know the correct answer.
I know in real life a few people who were in the area at the time. I know, in real life, one or two people who did watch the full thing with more professional background than someone who will use the term “official narrative”.
I chose not to view it because I already knew enough. So the correct answer is “fuck off”.
Certainly sounds like a Nazi puncher – they could use you on the streets in France right now, where the Army has been given the go to shoot the unarmed civilians…
…and by “professional”, do you mean people who will work for money? What happened to respect for unpaid, and charity work? Your politics would benefit from more time with women’s-rights-groups.
Kia ora The AM Show duncan your m8 have had some there true chameleon colours revealed lately there is more dirt to come Iam manukāwhaki coffee social media muppet.
Ka pai to the new social media on line movie makers the old movie maker have been controlled so only content is positive for the 00.1 % and every other class voice is silence a lot of good people use film to get the truth out to the PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE The new Age is here and now.
The west coast mayor is a climate change denier fool.
duncan We know you are lieing you go on the net all the time to read my post you and your m8s have been attacking social media because it gives Eco Maori part of my Mana that is quite plain to see but social media is like Eco Maori all ready out of the box and know one CAN STOP US.
I know I have Bill Gates attention he thinks it OK the Way of the world’s society is at the minute YEA RIGHT.
If the billionaire were socially considering they would be pouring billion in to protecting our Mokopunas future by putting money into green energy and 3 world nation not just drip feeding these problems.
There you go wanker airing this dick heads story he was probably a kid taken into state care abuse by the state hence he commtied those crimes the IDIOT is and was never going to get out of jail with the proal system this is just another kick of dirt in the face of Maori it could have been dead a buryed years ago. But it show how incredibly incompetent the police force is they set up Porter they set him up and new someone was still at large committing these crimes against Wahine WTF.
royal cover up commission look at the little Pike River Mine desaster they got everyone’s to sign a letter of confidentiality What are they hiding. The force is covering its Ass its CORRUPT.
So long as the school systems changes start dilivering better OUT COMEs for the Maori and the lower classes its OK.
The education system is not giving Maori tamariki a fair start up they ladders of Life everyone’s else has a huge head start over OUR Tamariki we need to install a culture in Maori that education is a MUST to achieveing a good life this will lift Maori Mana we need Maori doctors nurses coders every professional sector is lacking in Maori people in them that has to change .
What a load of shit mark just because your lot get the best out of the education system it ain’t delivering the same results for Maori and NZ future will be stained by not correcting the wrongs of a racily biest education system.
Artificial intelligence is a program that learns by its mistakes but a supercomputer can make trillions of choice in second it could run the word once Quntam computers are master no data will be safe they are storing all the world data even the incypted data they are storing that so when they master Quntam computers they will be able to de code the data no secrets in the world will be kept SAFE.
Yes I say that the people the spy’s have been focusing on are not a threat Maori green Muslim people ights these are leftys people they are pro peace that tell me that the spy’s agree with the Alt ight white supremacists that is plan to SEE that backs up my words against these fools. Can see that ational shonky loaded the spy’s up with his redneck m8s and focuses them on people who would take his power away from him plan to see that. Ka kite ano
This is what we have to focouse on human caused climate change not trump brexit all the other bullshit the oil barrons throw up to stop the world taking there power of control on the world with CARBON it is the comidity that controls the world these greedy fools will burn our world for there neanderthal power.
Thanks to Chinas manufacturing power solar wind are cheaper than carbon thermal power green energy uses a fraction of the water that carbon thermal power uses .
Sir David Attenborough has announced his new documentary topic: climate change.
The “urgent” one-off film will focus on the various threats climate change poses and any possible solutions.
Titled Climate Change: The Facts, the new documentary will feature footage from around the world, showcasing the damage and impact global warming has already had on our planet, as well as interviews with climatologists and meteorologists.
He will work to explore the science behind extreme weather conditions experienced all around the world, with a focus on the wildfires in California at the end of 2018.
The NZ UN justice system.
How recruitment works all the boss are Christian so people with the same self righteous ideology rise to the top fast Maori join the force he/she see undignified behaviour he/she is told to ignore it that the system image is protected first and formost.
They are not happy they leave after 6 years because they joined the forces to make a better society for Maori they can see that they were pushing shit uphill.
A bright snot nose self righteous Christian joins his dad was a cop he has been bullied at school has a problem with brown people he rise quickly up the ranks because he has the same opinion as the boss he gets a job with the sis or gcsb be for she /he is 30 years old he now has all the power of and minupulating of the NZ JUSTICE SYSTEM at his fingers tips he can bribe narks under cover witness who one can not defend themselves from to sing a tune against someone Gisborne man his boss has sighted him on a person Next Minute Eco Maori and he loses his marbles his m8 takes over
You see people there is know protacal for people to be given a promotion in the force its up to the bosses who give there redneck m8 all the rizes in rank and pay hence we end up with a justice system that treats the lower classes like shit instead of doing there job and protecting the People
And Maori the lower classes of people have a impossible task at rising up the ranks of the unjustified system.
Ka kite ano
This is after trump has thrown a spanner in the green energy works and tryed to atificaly in flate carbon prices the carbon barons OWN HIS ASS
Around three-quarters of US coal production is now more expensive than solar and wind energy in providing electricity to American households, according to a new study.
“Even without major policy shift we will continue to see coal retire pretty rapidly,” said Mike O’Boyle, the co-author of the report for Energy Innovation, a renewables analysis firm. “Our analysis shows that we can move a lot faster to replace coal with wind and solar. The fact that so much coal could be retired right now shows we are off the pace.”
The study’s authors used public financial filings and data from the Energy Information Agency (EIA) to work out the cost of energy from coal plants compared with wind and solar options within a 35-mile radius. They found that 211 gigawatts of current US coal capacity, 74% of the coal fleet, is providing electricity that’s more expensive than wind or solar.
Most US coal plants are contaminating groundwater with toxins, analysis finds
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By 2025 the picture becomes even clearer, with nearly the entire US coal system out-competed on cost by wind and solar, even when factoring in the construction of new wind turbines and solar panels.
“We’ve seen we are at the ‘coal crossover’ point in many parts of the country but this is actually more widespread than previously thought,” O’Boyle said. “There is a huge potential for wind and solar to replace coal, while saving Ka kite ano P.S The stea tarrifs were aimed at green energy construction links below
The sandflys have my son caught up in their Web of deceit they have there m8 caught in their hinaki because their mother has never supported my MANA They don’t listen to my advice I tryed to get there in laws to help but to no avail they would rather risk there my Mokopunas future prosperity than expose the puppet caught in the sandflys web of Decite Ma te wa I will have the last laugh at them Ka kite ano
Kia ora Newshub what’s the west port mayor saying now about human caused climate change is he still in denial Eco Maori just hopes no people lose their lives.
Yes the Mana of Wai is awesome that is why we must respect Papatuanukue.
NO comment on Saint John the ones in the bay of plenty will know why.
That is not on Wahine being internally searched in Prison illegally you see the authorities play with the innocent people who don’t no there human ights they have tryed and are trying that on Eco Maori I give them the titi but I feel for the people who are innocent that is why the people need to get a education. As for trump the wealthy 00.1 % would rather have a racist bigot who hands them out cash than a person who will look after all the people. What a SHAM he was shit scared before Muler report was released that told me he was guilty now that they have not shown the TRUTH he is using it as a weapon tipical REDNECK. I Seen Muler he is worried
At scotmo is just jumping on that subject to boost his popularity that’s what I see. Ka kite ano
Kia ora Te ao Maori News let’s hope the Crown treats Maori fairly and not just play lip service on the issue Maori have with the way Wai is being treated by some around the Moutu and the other issues we have with water. Hehe I got shonky pulled from the Ngati-porou website I just about chucked up when I seen a photo of him giving one of our great leaders a Hongi he definitely was playing with MAORI MANA. Not just Muslims human rights are being breach but good on them for rising the issue. I have said that Wai Awa needs to be given more respect. The Kaituna awa deaths that local tangata whenua have conserns about. Ka kite ano
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“It hardly strikes me as fair to criticise a government for doing exactly what it said it was going to do. For actually keeping its promises.”THUNDER WAS PLAYING TAG with lightning flashes amongst the distant peaks. Its rolling cadences interrupted by the here-I-come-here-I-go Doppler effect of the occasional passing car. ...
Subversive & Disruptive Technologies: Just as happened with that other great regulator of the masses, the Medieval Church, the advent of a new and hard-to-control technology – the Internet – is weakening the ties that bind. Then, and now, those who enjoy a monopoly on the dissemination of lies, cannot and will ...
Been Here Before: To find the precedents for what this Coalition Government is proposing, it is necessary to return to the “glory days” of Muldoonism.THE COALITION GOVERNMENT has celebrated its first 100 days in office by checking-off the last of its listed commitments. It remains, however, an angry government. It ...
Bob Edlin writes – And what is the world watching today…? The email newsletter from Associated Press which landed in our mailbox early this morning advised: In the news today: The father of a school shooter has been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter; prosecutors in Trump’s hush-money case ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Is another Green MP on their way out? And are the Greens severely tarnished by another integrity scandal? For the second time in three months, the Green Party has secretly suspended an MP over integrity issues. Mystery is surrounding the party’s decision to ...
For the last few years, the Green Party has been the party that has managed to avoid the plague of multiple scandals that have beleaguered other political parties. It appears that their luck has run out with a second scandal which, unfortunately for them, coincided with Golraz Ghahraman, the focus ...
TL;DR: The six newsey things that stood out to me as of 6:46am on Saturday, March 16.Andy Foster has accidentally allowed a Labour/Green amendment to cut road user chargers for plug-in hybrid vehicles, which the Government might accept; NZ HeraldThomas CoughlanSimeon Brown has rejected a plea from Westport ...
What seemed a booming success a couple of years ago has collapsed into fraud convictions.I looked at the crash of FTX (short for ‘Futures Exchange’) in November 2022 to see whether it would impact on the financial system as a whole. Fortunately there was barely a ripple, probably because it ...
Anybody following the situation in Ukraine and Russia would probably have been amused by a recent Tweet on X NATO seems to be putting in an awful lot of effort to influence what is, at least according to them, a sham election in an autocracy.When do the Ukrainians go to ...
TL;DR:Shaun Baker on Wynyard Quarter's transformation. Magdalene Taylor on the problem with smart phones. How private equity are now all over reinsurance. Dylan Cleaver on rugby and CTE. Emily Atkin on ‘Big Meat’ looking like ‘Big Oil’.Bernard’s six-stack of substacks at 6pm on March 15Photo by Jeppe Hove Jensen ...
Buzz from the Beehive Finance Minister Nicola Willis had plenty to say when addressing the Auckland Business Chamber on the economic growth that (she tells us) is flagging more than we thought. But the government intends to put new life into it: We want our country to be a ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee has reported back on the Road User Charges (Light Electric RUC Vehicles) Amendment Bill, basicly rubberstamping it. While there was widespread support among submitters for the principle that EV and PHEV drivers should pay their fair share for the roads, they also overwhelmingly disagreed with ...
Peter Dunne writes – This week’s government bailout – the fifth in the last eighteen months – of the financially troubled Ruapehu Alpine Lifts company would have pleased many in the central North Island ski industry. The government’s stated rationale for the $7 million funding was that it ...
See if you can spot the difference. An Iranian born female MP from a progressive party is accused of serial shoplifting. Her name is leaked to the media, which goes into a pack frenzy even before the Police launch an … Continue reading → ...
Ele Ludemann writes – The government is omitting general Treaty references from legislation : The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last Government in a bid to get greater coherence in the public service on Treaty ...
What was that judge thinking?Peter Williams writes – That Golriz Ghahraman and District Court Judge Maria Pecotic were once lawyer colleagues is incontrovertible. There is published evidence that they took at least one case to the Court of Appeal together. There was a report on ...
TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read:Climate Scorpion – the sting is in the tail. Introducing planetary solvency. A paper via the University of Exeter’s Institute and Faculty of Actuaries.Local scoop:Kāinga Ora starts pulling out of its Auckland projects and selling land RNZ ...
Wellington’s massively upzoned District Plan adds the opportunity for tens of thousands of new homes not just in the central city (such as these Webb St new builds) but also close to the CBD and public transport links. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Wellington gave itself the chance of ...
It’s Friday and we’re halfway through March Madness. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt asked how we can get better event trains and an option for grade separating Morningside Dr. On Tuesday Matt looked into ...
Something you might not know about me is that I’m quite a stubborn person. No, really. I don’t much care for criticism I think’s unfair or that I disagree with. Few of us do I suppose.Back when I was a drinker I’d sometimes respond defensively, even angrily. There are things ...
Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the last week included:PM Christopher Luxon said the reversal of interest deductibility for landlords was done to help renters, who ...
It was not so much the Labour Party but really the Chris Hipkins party yesterday at Labour’s caucus retreat in Martinborough. The former Prime Minister was more or less consistent on wealth tax, which he was at best equivocal about, and social insurance, which he was not willing to revisit. ...
Buzz from the BeehiveThe text reproduced above appears on a page which records all the media statements and speeches posted on the government’s official website by Melissa Lee as Minister of Media and Communications and/or by Jenny Marcroft, her Parliamentary Under-secretary. It can be quickly analysed ...
For forty years, Robert Muldoon has been a dirty word in our politics. His style of government was so repulsive and authoritarian that the backlash to it helped set and entrench our constitutional norms. His pig-headedness over forcing through Think Big eventually gave us the RMA, with its participation and ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Is the new government reducing tax on rental properties to benefit landlords or to cut the cost of rents? That’s the big question this week, after Associate Finance Minister David Seymour announced on Sunday that the Government would be reversing the Labour Government’s removal ...
Saudi Arabia is rarely far from the international spotlight. The war in Gaza has brought new scrutiny to Saudi plans to normalise relations with Israel, while the fifth anniversary of the controversial killing of Jamal Khashoggi was marked shortly before the war began on October 7. And as the home ...
Questions need to be asked on both sides of the worldPeter Williams writes – The NRL Judiciary hands down an eight week suspension to Sydney Roosters forward Spencer Leniu , an Auckland-born Samoan, after he calls Ezra Mam, Sydney-orn but of Aboriginal and Torres Strait ...
Ele Ludemann writes – Contrary to what many headlines and news stories are saying, residential landlords are not getting a tax break. The government is simply restoring to them the tax deductibility of interest they had until the previous government removed it. There is no logical reason ...
I can't remember when it was goodMoments of happiness in bloomMaybe I just misunderstoodAll of the love we left behindWatching our flashbacks intertwineMemories I will never findIn spite of whatever you becomeForget that reckless thing turned onI think our lives have just begunI think our lives have just begunDoes anyone ...
Michael Bassett writes – At first reading, a front-page story in the New Zealand Herald on 13 March was bizarre. A group of severely intellectually limited teenagers, with little understanding of the law, have been pleading to the Justice Select Committee not to pass a bill dealing with ram ...
How much political capital is Christopher Luxon willing to burn through in order to deliver his $2.9 billion gift to landlords? Evidently, Luxon is: (a) unable to cost the policy accurately. As Anna Burns-Francis pointed out to him on Breakfast TV, the original ”rock solid” $2.1 billion cost he was ...
TL;DR: My top 10 news and analysis links this morning include:Today’s must-read:Jonathon Porritt calling bullshit in his own blog post on mainstream climate science as ‘The New Denialism’.Local scoop:The Wellington City Council’s list of proposed changes to the IHP recommendations to be debated later today was leaked this ...
TL;DR:Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said yesterday tenants should be grateful for the reinstatement of interest deductibility because landlords would pass on their lower tax costs in the form of lower rents. That would be true if landlords were regulated monopolies such as Transpower or Auckland Airport1, but they’re not, ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Tom Toro Tom Toro is a cartoonist and author. He has published over 200 cartoons in The New Yorker since 2010. His cartoons appear in Playboy, the Paris Review, the New York Times, American Bystander, and elsewhere. Related: What 10 EV lovers ...
The business section of the NZ Herald is full of opinion. Among the more opinionated of all is the ex-Minister of Transport, ex-Minister of Railways, ex MP for Auckland Central (1975-93, Labour), Wellington Central (1996-99, ACT, then list-2005), ex-leader of the ACT Party, uncle to actor Antonia, the veritable granddaddy ...
Hi,Just quickly — I’m blown away by the stories you’ve shared with me over the last week since I put out the ‘Gary’ podcast, where I told you about the time my friend’s flatmate killed the neighbour.And you keep telling me stories — in the comments section, and in my ...
The first season of Rings of Power was not awful. It was thoroughly underwhelming, yes, and left a lingering sense of disappointment, but it was more expensive mediocrity than catastrophe. I wrote at length about the series as it came out (see the Review section of the blog, and go ...
Buzz from the Beehive Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden told Auckland Business Chamber members they were the first audience to hear her priorities as a minister in a government committed to cutting red tape and regulations. She brandished her liberalising credentials, saying Flexible labour markets are the ...
Chris Trotter writes – TO UNDERSTAND WHY NEWSHUB FAILED, it is necessary to understand how TVNZ changed. Up until 1989, the state broadcaster had been funded by a broadcasting licence fee, collected from every citizen in possession of a television set, supplemented by a relatively modest (compared ...
Bob Edlin writes – The Māori Party has been busy issuing a mix of warnings and threats as its expresses its opposition to interest deductibility for landlords and the plans of seabed miners. It remains to be seen whether they follow the example of indigenous litigants in Australia, ...
The Government has accepted Labour’s change to the Road User Charge (RUC) discount for hybrid vehicles, meaning there will still be some incentive for people to buy greener vehicles. ...
Kicking the most vulnerable people out of state housing and pushing them towards homelessness will result in a proliferation of poverty and trauma across our most vulnerable communities. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader and MP for Waiariki, Rawiri Waititi has penned a letter asking MPs to support his members bill to remove GST from all food. The bill is expected to go through its first reading in parliament this Wednesday. “I’m calling on all political parties to support my ...
This year is about getting real with Kiwis and discussing the tough issues, as the National Government exacerbates inequality and divides New Zealand, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said ...
The Government adding Significant Natural Areas (SNAs) to its already roaring environmental policy bonfire is an assault on the future of wildlife that makes Aotearoa unique. ...
After 12 years of fighting to protect our moana we are finding ourselves back at square one and back at court. Today, the Environmental Protection Agency is sitting in Hawera to reconsider an application from Trans-Tasman Resources to dig up 50 million tonnes of the seabed in South Taranaki. This ...
Minister Shane Jones’ decision to step away from a seabed mining project is evidence of the murky waters surrounding the Government’s fast-track legislation. ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The growth of Treaty of Waitangi clauses in legislation caused so much worry that a special oversight group was set up by the last government in a bid to get greater coherence in the publicservice on Treaty matters. When ministers first considered the need for tighter oversight in 2021, there ...
The Coalition Government’s miscalculation saga continues as it has forgotten an eyewatering $90 million gap in its interest deductibility cost figures, say Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds and Revenue Spokesperson Deborah Russell. ...
He Pou a Rangi Climate Change Commission has today released advice that says if the Government doesn’t act now New Zealand is at risk of not meeting its climate goals. ...
The Coalition Government has today confirmed it is abandoning first home buyers who are struggling to get ahead, says Labour Finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds. ...
The New Zealand public voted for a change in direction at the 2023 general election and that is exactly what this coalition government has been delivering in its first 100 days. There was an immediate focus on the economy, easing the cost of living, cracking down on law and order ...
The Government has left the health system as an afterthought, announcing half-baked targets at the last minute of their 100-day plan, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
Kiwis are still waiting for their promised cost of living support after 100 days of a National Government that is taking us backwards, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The National Government has spent its first 100 days stopping, cutting and reversing. They have scrapped stuff for stuff for the sake of it, without putting up any solutions of their own – and it’s hardworking New Zealanders who will pay for it. ...
100 days of National taking NZ backwardsThe National Government has spent its first 100 days stopping, cutting and reversing. They have scrapped stuff for stuff for the sake of it, without putting up any solutions of their own – and it’s hardworking New Zealanders who will pay for it. ...
The Government must commit to funding free and healthy school lunches, as thousands of people sign the petition to keep them, education spokesperson Jan Tinetti says. ...
If the Government was serious about moving families into public housing, they would build more houses so there is actually somewhere for people to go. ...
The free and healthy school lunches programme feeds our kids, helps them to learn, and saves families money – but it is at risk under this Government, education spokesperson Jan Tinetti said. ...
The Government’s proposed changes to Firearms Prohibition Orders (FPO) add almost nothing new and are merely an attempt to distract from its plans to loosen gun laws, police spokesperson Ginny Andersen and justice spokesperson Dr Duncan Webb said. ...
The great Victorian era English politician Lord Macauley stood in the British House of Parliament and said, "The gallery in which the reporters sit has become a fourth estate of the realm".He understood and outlined even way back then, the significant role and influence media have in a democracy. ...
"The Government is moving quickly to realise an additional $46 million in tariff savings in the EU market this season for Kiwi exporters,” Minister for Trade and Agriculture, Todd McClay says. Parliament is set, this week, to complete the final legislative processes required to bring the New Zealand – European ...
New Zealand’s social workers are qualified, experienced, and more representative of the communities they serve, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “I want to acknowledge and applaud New Zealand’s social workers for the hard work they do, providing invaluable support for our most vulnerable. “To coincide with World ...
Cabinet has agreed to a reduced road user charge (RUC) rate for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs), Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. Owners of PHEVs will be eligible for a reduced rate of $38 per 1,000km once all light electric vehicles (EVs) move into the RUC system from 1 April. ...
Minister of Agriculture and Trade, Todd McClay, says that today’s opening of Riverland Foods manufacturing plant in Christchurch is a great example of how trade access to overseas markets creates jobs in New Zealand. Speaking at the official opening of this state-of-the-art pet food factory the Minister noted that exports ...
Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters met with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi in Wellington today. “It was a pleasure to host Foreign Minister Wang Yi during his first official visit to New Zealand since 2017. Our discussions were wide-ranging and enabled engagement on many facets of New Zealand’s relationship with China, including trade, ...
Kāinga Ora – Homes & Communities has been instructed to end the Sustaining Tenancies Framework and take stronger measures against persistent antisocial behaviour by tenants, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Earlier today Finance Minister Nicola Willis and I sent an interim Letter of Expectations to the Board of Kāinga Ora. ...
Tēna koutou katoa. Greetings everyone. Thank you to the Auckland Chamber of Commerce and the Honourable Simon Bridges for hosting this address today. I acknowledge the business leaders in this room, the leaders and governors, the employers, the entrepreneurs, the investors, and the wealth creators. The coalition Government shares your ...
Minister Winston Peters completed the final leg of his visit to South and South East Asia in Singapore today, where he focused on enhancing one of New Zealand’s indispensable strategic partnerships. “Singapore is our most important defence partner in South East Asia, our fourth-largest trading partner and a ...
Minister of Internal Affairs and Workplace Relations and Safety, Hon. Brooke van Velden, will travel to the Republic of Korea to represent New Zealand at the Third Summit for Democracy on 18 March. The summit, hosted by the Republic of Korea, was first convened by the United States in 2021, ...
ICNZ Speech 7 March 2024, Auckland Acknowledgements and opening Mōrena, ngā mihi nui. Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho. Good morning, it’s a privilege to be here to open the ICNZ annual conference, thank you to Mark for the Mihi Whakatau My thanks to Tim Grafton for inviting me ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Lead Coordination Minister Judith Collins have expressed their deepest sympathy on the five-year anniversary of the Christchurch terror attacks. “March 15, 2019, was a day when families, communities and the country came together both in sorrow and solidarity,” Mr Luxon says. “Today we pay our respects to the 51 shuhada ...
Speech for Financial Advice NZ Conference 5 March 2024 Acknowledgements and opening Morena, Nga Mihi Nui. Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Nor Whanganui aho. Thanks Nate for your Mihi Whakatau Good morning. It’s a pleasure to formally open your conference this morning. What a lovely day in Wellington, What a great ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters held discussions in Jakarta today about the future of relations between New Zealand and South East Asia’s most populous country. “We are in Jakarta so early in our new government’s term to reflect the huge importance we place on our relationship with Indonesia and South ...
Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters has announced that the Foreign Minister of China, Wang Yi, will visit New Zealand next week. “We look forward to re-engaging with Foreign Minister Wang Yi and discussing the full breadth of the bilateral relationship, which is one of New Zealand’s ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today opened the new Auckland Rail Operations Centre, which will bring together KiwiRail, Auckland Transport, and Auckland One Rail to improve service reliability for Aucklanders. “The recent train disruptions in Auckland have highlighted how important it is KiwiRail and Auckland’s rail agencies work together to ...
The Government is proud to support the 10th edition of Crankworx Rotorua as the Crankworx World Tour returns to Rotorua from 16-24 March 2024, says Minister for Economic Development Melissa Lee. “Over the past 10 years as Crankworx Rotorua has grown, so too have the economic and social benefits that ...
Legislation implementing coalition Government tax commitments and addressing long-standing tax anomalies will be progressed in Parliament next week, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The legislation is contained in an Amendment Paper to the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill issued today. “The Amendment Paper represents ...
Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggard has today announced that the Government has agreed to suspend the requirement for councils to comply with the Significant Natural Areas (SNA) provisions of the National Policy Statement for Indigenous Biodiversity for three years, while it replaces the Resource Management Act (RMA).“As it stands, SNAs ...
Agriculture Minister Todd McClay has classified the drought conditions in the Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts as a medium-scale adverse event, acknowledging the challenging conditions facing farmers and growers in the district. “Parts of Marlborough, Tasman, and Nelson districts are in the grip of an intense dry spell. I know ...
The Government is helping farmers eradicate the significant impact of facial eczema (FE) in pastoral animals, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced. “A $20 million partnership jointly funded by Beef + Lamb NZ, the Government, and the primary sector will save farmers an estimated NZD$332 million per year, and aims to ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has completed a successful visit to India, saying it was an important step in taking the relationship between the two countries to the next level. “We have laid a strong foundation for the Coalition Government’s priority of enhancing New Zealand-India relations to generate significant future benefit for both countries,” says Mr Peters, ...
Cabinet has agreed to provide $7 million to ensure the 2024 ski season can go ahead on the Whakapapa ski field in the central North Island but has told the operator Ruapehu Alpine Lifts it is the last financial support it will receive from taxpayers. Cabinet also agreed to provide ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says the launch of a new mobile breast screening unit in Counties Manukau reinforces the coalition Government’s commitment to drive better cancer services for all New Zealanders. Speaking at the launch of the new mobile clinic, Dr Reti says it’s a great example of taking ...
Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
Unlocking economic growth and land for housing are critical elements of the Government’s plan for our transport network, and planned upgrades to State Highway 29 (SH29) near Tauriko will deliver strongly on those priorities, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “The SH29 upgrades near Tauriko will improve safety at the intersections ...
Lower fruit and vegetable prices are welcome news for New Zealanders who have been doing it tough at the supermarket, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. Stats NZ reported today the price of fruit and vegetables has dropped 9.3 percent in the 12 months to February 2024. “Lower fruit and vege ...
Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all. Chair, I am honoured to address the sixty-eighth session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
Tēnā koutou katoa and greetings to you all. Chair, I am honoured to address the 68th session of the Commission on the Status of Women. I acknowledge the many crises impacting the rights of women and girls. Heightened global tensions, war, climate related and humanitarian disasters, and price inflation all ...
The coalition Government is supporting farmers to enhance land management practices by investing $3.3 million in locally led catchment groups, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced. “Farmers and growers deliver significant prosperity for New Zealand and it’s vital their ongoing efforts to improve land management practices and water quality are supported,” ...
Good evening everyone and thank you for that lovely introduction. Thank you also to the Honourable Simon Bridges for the invitation to address your members. Since being sworn in, this coalition Government has hit the ground running with our 100-day plan, delivering the changes that New Zealanders expect of us. ...
Recommendations from the Climate Change Commission for New Zealand on the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) auction and unit limit settings for the next five years have been tabled in Parliament, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “The Commission provides advice on the ETS annually. This is the third time the ...
The coalition Government is beginning its fight to lower building costs and reduce red tape by exempting minor building work from paying the building levy, says Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk. “Currently, any building project worth $20,444 including GST or more is subject to the building levy which is ...
Proposed changes to tax legislation to prevent the over-taxation of low-earning trusts are welcome, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The changes have been recommended by Parliament’s Finance and Expenditure Committee following consideration of submissions on the Taxation (Annual Rates for 2023–24, Multinational Tax, and Remedial Matters) Bill. “One of the ...
Assalaamu alaikum. السَّلَام عليكم In light of the holy month of Ramadan, I want to extend my warmest wishes to our Muslim community in New Zealand. Ramadan is a time for spiritual reflection, renewed devotion, perseverance, generosity, and forgiveness. It’s a time to strengthen our bonds and appreciate the diversity ...
Former Transport Minister and CEO of the Auckland Business Chamber Hon Simon Bridges has been appointed as the new Board Chair of the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) for a three-year term, Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced today. “Simon brings extensive experience and knowledge in transport policy and governance to the role. He will ...
Good morning all, it is a pleasure to be here as Minister of Science, Innovation and Technology. It is fantastic to see how connected and collaborative the life science and biotechnology industry is here in New Zealand. I would like to thank BioTechNZ and NZTech for the invitation to address ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says he is looking forward to the day when three key water projects in Northland are up and running, unlocking the full potential of land in the region. Mr Jones attended a community event at the site of the Otawere reservoir near Kerikeri on Friday. ...
Associate Finance Minister David Seymour has today announced that the Government has agreed to restore deductibility for mortgage interest on residential investment properties. “Help is on the way for landlords and renters alike. The Government’s restoration of interest deductibility will ease pressure on rents and simplify the tax code,” says ...
Sport and Recreation Minister Chris Bishop will travel to Switzerland today to attend an Executive Committee meeting and Symposium of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). Mr Bishop will then travel on to London where he will attend a series of meetings in his capacity as Infrastructure Minister. “New Zealanders believe ...
Pacific Media Watch Earthwise hosts Lois and Martin Griffiths. Earthwise presenters Lois and Martin Griffiths on Plains FM 96.9 community radio talk to Dr David Robie, a New Zealand author, independent journalist and media educator with a passion for the Asia-Pacific region. David talks about the struggle to raise awareness ...
Pacific Media Watch Ismail al-Ghoul, an Al Jazeera Arabic correspondent who was held for 12 hours at Gaza’s al-Shifa hospital, says Israeli forces rounded up Palestinian journalists at the facility and made them kneel on the ground for hours, while naked and blindfolded. “The occupation forces handcuffed and blindfolded us ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tony Wood, Program Director, Energy, Grattan Institute chinasong, Shutterstock Electricity customers in four Australian states can breathe a sigh of relief. After two years in a row of 20% price increases, power prices have finally stabilised. In many places they’re ...
Chumbawamba have reportedly issued the deputy PM a cease-and-desist notice after he used their song 'Tubthumping' before his state of the nation speech. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Deborah Lupton, SHARP Professor, Vitalities Lab, Centre for Social Research in Health and Social Policy Centre, and the ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society, UNSW Sydney kitzcorner/Shutterstock The assertion from Queensland’s chief health officer John Gerrard that ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Martin, Visiting Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University Shutterstock Why are musicians so keen to get played on the radio? It can’t be because of the money. In Australia they are paid at rates so low they ...
"Farmers make a point not to tell our urban cousins how to live, yet Chlöe from central Auckland is hell-bent on having her say about farmers," says ACT Rural Communities spokesman Mark Cameron. “On her first day in the House as Green ...
Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards – Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)Political scientist, Dr Bryce Edwards. It’s been a tumultuous time in politics in recent months, as the new National-led Government has driven through its “First 100 Day programme”. During this period there’s been a handful of opinion polls, which overall just ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tim Curran, Associate Professor of Ecology, Lincoln University, New Zealand Getty Images/Gerald Corsi In the latest move to reform environmental laws in New Zealand, the coalition government has introduced a bill to fast-track consenting processes for projects deemed to ...
Uber has argued it does not have as much control over drivers as the unions suggest, and wants a judgment ruling that drivers are employees and not contractors set aside and sent back to the Employment Court. The 2022 ruling followed a three-week hearing in which four drivers sought to ...
What can and can’t be purchased by disabled people or their carers has been slashed in an effort by the Ministry of Disabled People Whaikaha to save money. The purchasing guidelines, a set of rules that sets out what can be purchased using the various streams of Government disability funding, ...
The Treasury has published today a new Analytical Note by Tod Wright and Hien Nguyen, Fiscal incidence in New Zealand: The effects of taxes and benefits on household incomes in tax year 2018/19 . Analyses of the distributional impact of taxation and government ...
The Treasury has published today a new Analytical Note by Cory Davis, Boston Hart and Benjamin Stubbing, Household cost-of-living impacts from the Emissions Trading Scheme and using transfers to mitigate regressive outcomes . This Analytical Note ...
A coalition of public transport and climate organisations, united as ‘Transport for All’, is actively opposing the government’s transport proposals. The draft Government Policy Statement (GPS) includes plans for higher fares for public transport, ...
Greater Wellington is inviting feedback on proposed changes to its Revenue and Financing Policy. The Revenue and Financing Policy covers the Council’s various sources of funding, and how the cost of services is shared across the region. This includes ...
Labour has conceded it could have done more to deal with disruptive state housing tenants while in government but says the current coalition is going too far. ...
The band has asked their record label to issue a cease and desist to stop the NZ First leader using their 1997 hit to support his ‘misguided political views’. “I get knocked down, but I get up again,” blared through the speakers on Sunday as Winston Peters took the stage ...
By Lydia Lewis, RNZ Pacific journalist Food rationing is underway in remote areas in Papua New Guinea’s Highlands following torrential rain and flash flooding. More than 20 people have been reported dead in Chimbu Province. In nearby Enga Province, the centre of last month’s massacre, a 15-year-old boy has been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Hughes, Lecturer, Research School of Management, Australian National University After months of debate and intrigue, the AFL’s 19th and newest team, the Tasmania Devils, finally launched its jumper, logo and colours in Devonport this week. The Devils will wear green, ...
Brannavan Gnanalingam reviews the debut novel by Saraid de Silva.One of the most baffling things for children who move to a new country is what their parents’ (or grandparents’) lives were like prior to moving – for kids in particular, they’re too busy trying to fit in in their ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephen Gaunson, Associate Professor in Cinema Studies, RMIT University Narelle Portanier/Binge “If you don’t know who your mob are, you don’t know who you are,” Detective Andrea “Andie” Whitford (played by Leah Purcell) is told early into the new crime ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Elise Klein, Associate professor, Australian National University It’s commonly accepted that women do the vast majority of caregiving in Australian society. But less appreciated is that Indigenous women do larger amounts of unpaid care than any other group. Working with the Aboriginal ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne Joe Biden and Donald Trump have both secured their parties’ nominations for the November 5 United States general election by winning a ...
Comment: There has been a striking contrast in trans-Tasman interest about Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi’s visit to New Zealand and Australia. While the Australian press has been full of articles about the visit – including his curious decision to meet with former prime minister and China booster Paul Keating ...
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I hope the Herald gets sued and royally hauled over the coals for this morning publishing the two inch tantrums full name and details of his rantings.
Tone deaf and illegal.
It’s about time our government hauled those haughty motherfuckers all the way to court.
The Article ‘How the Terrorist was Radicalised – tells us nothing.
The Article ‘Why the Concert was Evacuated tells us nothing.
But we click.
It’s the only way we’ll get some decency and better behaviour back into these money making messaging houses. Fine them, money is the only language they respond to.
The issue is they wouldn’t know how to behave like a serious responsible media outlet, they know that after moving toward a driven from the top model.
Collins passed up on a regulator stating they can look after themselves…..she should be made to eat that statement every time she pops her nasty head above the national parapet.
The govt must have bollocks, timings pretty good. Granny’s just handed them a starter for 10. Flush out the horror show that is RNZ currently also.
USA Fairfax what do you expect from white trash ?
This kind of thing has been playing on my mind, and likely others, for the week.
Tales for the Terrorist.
Somewhere, isolated in a reinforced concrete cell, sits NZ’s public enemy number one. Of all the things we’d like to say to him kindness and compassion might not even make the list.
Let’s be clear here, I am coming from a place of revenge and vengeance, I want this man to suffer 50 lifetimes worth of shame and guilt. But as he has no shame, other measures are called for.
I want this man to have paraded before him the media of love and compassion. The murals of Muslim heroes, the story of Eggboy, the coverage of the outpouring of love and solidarity New Zealanders have shown in this time of need.
In Stanley Kubrick’s ‘A Clockwork Orange’, Alex was subject to ‘therapy’ consisting of enforced media of atrocities and violence. I want this terrorist to suffer a similar fate but flipped around. The media of love and kindness, relentlessly portrayed.
I want him to see the hakas, the Mob members who’ve ditched the Nazi regalia, the social media mouthpieces who have suddenly gone silent as they furiously delete and delete. I want him to see that he has brought into light a cancer we needed to excise – and that the scalpels are out.
I want daily press releases of white supremacists getting locked up read to his cell. I want Trumps downfall broadcast to him in detail.
I want him to see the image of Jacinda hugging a woman adorning the highest building in the world. I want him to see Arabic commentators from around the world praise her. I want him to see commentators of hate being shamed and called out. I want him to hear of all the divestment from platforms of hate.
I want him to know his literary efforts are pathetic, and also banned. That his name is fading, and all his stupid chan buddies are due for a door knock.
I want to remind him he started something his dumb brain could never comprehend. A movement of love and compassion spreading virally through the world.
I want him to see me today, a white man, planting flowers for the local Mosque.
I want him to know he is the loser every day for the rest of his pathetic life.
Yesterday BBC announced that Teresa May was left in a dark dim room with no windows in Brussels sitting in that room left alone for five hours waiting for a meeting with the EU to request an extension of the Brexit deal.
Looks as if Brussels is teaching the British leader how isolated she will be, when UK leaves the EU?
They are staunch arse-holes that I would be glad to also leave on my plate as they are also demanding UK pay $32Billion EU to leave without a deal!!!!!!!.
F—-k them.
cleangreen
You are letting your emotions stop you from looking at the whole picture. It may be helpful if on this thread we looked at matters from the EUs point of view and
that of stability in Europe of nations that are doing as well as can be expected in these times. We have had an example right in our country of government throwing aside a system for a promise of another supposedly better one. I am not impressed with the new system yet it seems we are stuck with it, and getting stucker by the moment. It seems a new situation, and deserves a new word – ‘stucker’ which rhymes with sucker.
I’m with cleangreen – fuck ‘em.
Okay ScottGN
A very therapeutic, short and sweet rant. After the release of emotion, then comes the application of reason. A short fart and then work at the other end of the body eh!
You can spare me the condescending drivel greywarshark.
Your comment at 2.1.1 is meaningless rubbish really.
cleangreen was merely making the observation (as have a fair few others too) that Brussels, in their efforts to remind other eurosceptic-minded members that leaving is going to be really, really tough haven’t really given brexit voters in the UK much reason to reconsider.
The PM May, the Tory government and in fact the whole political establishment in the UK has, become a total, dysfunctional mess but the EU grandees in Brussels should take some responsibility for that state of affairs too.
Your drivel is better than mine ScottGN. If cleangreen decided I was wrong he can say so himself. You don’t have to pile in with your sour negative beating up. I don’t like the way that this is happening on this blog. So just talk about the subject. I was jokey. You could be too if you knew how. If you disagree – put your own POV up as you have and don’t think that you can take me down as seems to be an attitude amongst some here.
Not interested in taking anyone down greywarshark. I was simply trying to communicate the idea that I agreed with cleangreen. Maybe I shouldn’t have replied to your reply to cleangreen, anything, anywhere to do with Brexit seems to have become hyper difficult as the mess has intensified. Sorry if I missed your jokey tone, though I find that humour often gets missed in these sorts of environments.
Yes Scott.
I wanted to demonstrate what a set of ‘bad actors’ the EU lot are, and by treating one of the most ‘enduing nations’ of Europe who stood up for those nations enslaved under the NAZI regime, in two bloody wars that bankrupted Britain after they restored Germany to economic health after the Marshall Plan was agreed to in 1946/47.
So now that Britain has chosen to take its own path, let them do this with the dignity they greatly deserve, not shut their leader in a dark windowless room without company for 5 hours.
That is disgraceful to say it kindly.
I as a Auckland born kiwi, married an English Rose in Toronto in 1976 and we have a very enduring partnership today that has taught me to respect the English for their ‘enduring grace and kindness so I felt the need to stick up for my English part of our family here.
Incidentally I was born on the very day the British and Americans marched into Paris to ‘Liberate’ Paris and take the City back from the NAZI’s. 25th August 1944.
If you don’t want to pay the bill, don’t sign up in the first place.
The UK has fucked itself. Or at least England fucked itself. Bring on devolution.
So you want him to see just what an effect he has had ,do you.
Just like the arsonist who can’t resist watching the results of his twisted actions and the vicarious satisfaction it imbues.
Not really.
He wanted to sow discord and hate and see his name everywhere. I’d like him to see that he failed. He imagined a media filled with revenge attacks and chaos. He failed. He utterly failed.
I want him to see all the Muslim leaders applaud as Winston tells them he’ll spend the rest of his life in isolation. I want him to see close ups of their smiles.
I’ve read your comments, you are much smarter than this one.
I’m thinking a cell of bullet proof glass with multiple large screen monitors behind streaming this stuff on endless loops.
Yea that sounds good.
I’m a bit concerned that (some of) my motives in the post are from a dark place. The desire for revenge is understandable but ultimately adds pain to pain. My concerns for me are not my largest concern however.
Many people are feeling a desire for revenge. So we are not alien, and it is healthier to be honest about this crap.
Love and hate emanating from the same soul. It can be confusing. They say the two cannot exist together. I think we’re more complex than twee proverbs.
The desire for revenge in people who (at the very least perceive they) have been minimized is palpable. The word utu has been used lately and it is not an invalid thought.
When you harm a stoic people they show strength and mana as they lend their persecutors seemingly endless rope. But when you attack their guests you cross the line. Lifetimes of restraint might be pulled taught like crossbow strings, to be unleashed by such a heinous insult.
I ask Maori people and other minorities who’ve had a gutsful:
Please consider that we must fight the institutions to stamp out institutionalized racism. That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge. That the fuse point has been lit and we might implode and destroy ourselves or explode into the world an example it desperately needs.
We who have inhaled the long white cloud
To dream upon its hills
Do you remember then the call to peace
To embrace our Mother Earth.
“I ask Maori people and other minorities who’ve had a gutsful:
Please consider that we must fight the institutions to stamp out institutionalized racism. That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge. That the fuse point has been lit and we might implode and destroy ourselves or explode into the world an example it desperately needs.”
I’m Māori.
“That the time is ripe for reform, not revenge.”
Why you think that applies to me, let alone all Māori people and other minorities, is an good example of entrenched racism.
How casual and well-meaning, but ultimately misplaced is your comment, where you indulge and openly acknowledge personal revenge scenarios, and then follow up with a exhortation to Māori to control themselves.
Have a look again at your comment WTB, and see if you recognise it.
Well actually Molly, I was replying to a call for utu that I have heard from three sources now.
I am talking to those who are considering such acts. I do not assume that includes you and apologise if my statement was too broad.
The only revenge scenario I have considered involves the state playing him positive media.
You are right I was a patronising twat. I should have appealed to all people considering a violent reaction.
Thanks WTB. I appreciate you taking the time to consider my comment.
“I do not assume that includes you and apologise if my statement was too broad.”
Using the term Māori and other minorities was lazy and racist, whether you meant that generalisation or not.
It is an accepted turn of phrase to use the collective Māori, when speaking about anything to do with Te Ao Māori, or any group or individual within it. This acceptance unfortunately feeds the prejudice as news items and commentary is often dealing with negative actions or issues, and so the collective gets the blame in this way, every time.
” I was replying to a call for utu that I have heard from three sources now.”
Three Māori individuals or sources do not speak for the Māori race or indeed Māori tikanga – that excuse is quite lame.
You have got it absolutely spot on in your last sentence: “I should have appealed to all people considering a violent reaction.”, but I’m not yet sure that you understand how entrenched this is in NZ to speak in this way about Māori, and other minority groups.
(I used to do it myself without thinking, and had to train myself to do otherwise. Still slip up every now and then, though.)
A friend and I took Margaret Mutu’s Te Ao Maori at Auckland University. It was an eye opener for sure. We suffered white guilt for some time I had no idea. After the guilt I felt quite furious.
In my wild youth they called me n***** lover in various places and I got a couple of my scars defending my right to not be a nazi.
So now, how could I possibly be patronising 😀 (joking)
So easy to be mindless aye. Today I went to do some planting work, threw on some socks only figuring they were thermal when I got out in the sun. Talk about sweat and suffer. Why? It was at a Moslem Temple and I didn’t know if bare feet would be wrong or shirtless even though we were outside and I was too shy to ask thinking they must’ve had enough patronising white folks for the day… Such a dick.
I’ll screw three things up tomorrow. And hopefully learn four.
“Why? It was at a Moslem Temple and I didn’t know if bare feet would be wrong or shirtless even though we were outside and I was too shy to ask thinking they must’ve had enough patronising white folks for the day… Such a dick”
… and such a lovely person. The human condition.
Gardening is such an inclusive activity and endeavour, what an ideal way to practice common-unity. (BTW, A much better way to spend the day than mine, walking into scaffolding poles and trying to install guttering.)
I’m surprised to learn that we’re feeding that wolf.
“One evening, an elderly Cherokee brave told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, ‘My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other wolf is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.’
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked, ‘Grandpa, which wolf wins?’
The old Cherokee simply replied, ‘The one that you feed.’”
Read post I posted as you wrote Robert.
Brilliant Robert.
Here is a link to an article in Snope that, in my opinion, everyone should read.
https://snopescom.cmail19.com/t/ViewEmail/j/05BED2BD65180DAD2540EF23F30FEDED/75EEB567988F57F9F351F20C80B74D5E?fbclid=IwAR1X6LQ2tuP_gIJJLg7iP4RDh5HmCXBcgJ7f-Ad6FPDPdgTIgTqQ7UrUob8.
There is a classic example of inappropriate and unhelpful “whataboutery” in the Weekend Herald opinion section. The reference to Nigeria is exactly what the Snope article is referring to – I have others referring to the same “incident” so clearly they are quoting from the same website.
Thanks Marcus Morris … excellent link .
If I could give one suggestion … that is to do a couple of quotes from your link …. for the people who do not click through .
That way their view / information makes it onto TS pages ….
“Memes about how many people have been killed by Muslims are definitely going around” on social media in the aftermath of New Zealand, said Elon University computer science Professor Megan Squire. “It’s whataboutism. It’s just classic, ‘Hey, look over there’ misdirection.”
“Research shows that crimes committed by Muslims receive vastly more media attention than similar acts committed by non-Muslims.”
“A January 2019 report published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that every fatal act of violence resulting from extremism in the U.S. in 2018 was linked to far-right ideologies. ”
“The ( NZ ) killings also coincided with a surge of anti-Muslim hate crimes in other regions of the world, including the United Kingdom and Canada, while in the U.S., such crimes have spiked to all-time highs. ”
“Meanwhile, researchers at the University of Warwick in England have found a strong statistical correlation between tweets posted by U.S. President Donald Trump on Islam-related topics and anti-Muslim hate crimes.
The New Zealand massacre drew attention to what Suleiman sees as related problems: the proliferation of anti-Muslim hate speech on the internet, the mainstreaming of such rhetoric, and the willingness of some who consume such material to take that online activity into the real world with acts of violence and intimidation.”
https://twitter.com/miqdaad/status/1107564382685446144
https://twitter.com/miqdaad/status/1107564382685446144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1107564382685446144&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthestandard.org.nz%2Fopen-mike-24-03-2019%2F
Changing the names from the usa link …. and seeing if the NZ shoe fits …
Some people doubt the scale of Islamophobia in the media, claim it is limited to certain views of Karl du Frense, Ian Wishhart and Judith Collins, and believe the far-right attitudes come from extreme rather than mainstream sources. This thread aims to challenge such assumptions.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D17X768XgAAWdAL.png
Islam as an ideology, as practised in Islamic nations and as taught in many western countries, is fundamentally incompatible with a modern liberal democracy. There are many Muslims who are calling for an Islamic reformation, unfortunately their voices are, as yet, not being heard.
““A January 2019 report published by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that every fatal act of violence resulting from extremism in the U.S. in 2018 was linked to far-right ideologies. ””
Which is a good illustration of why the ADL have zero credibility. Firstly because they have conveniently limited the ‘acts of violence’ to those that caused death, and secondly because they missed at least one causing death by a convert to Islam who stabbed 3 people (killing 1) on 12th March 2018.
“…while in the U.S., such crimes have spiked to all-time highs. ””
If that is true, it is hardly surprising given the hatred being preached across the US by Islamic leaders, particularly anti-Semitic diatribes.
Your a dishonest fool Shadrach …. Islamic extremism has been financed and fueled ever since we called Osama Bin Laden a freedom fighter ….. ” The Muslim Terrorist Apparatus was Created by US Intelligence as a Geopolitical Weapon ”
” Brzezinski. He confirms what opponents have charged: that the US began covert sponsorship of Muslim extremists five months *before* the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.”
…” they have used it continuously; and that we are seeing the fruits of this policy. Most recently we have seen the real essence of the Brzezinski doctrine in the horrendous events this past week in Russia (culminating in the school attack) and Israel (the double bus bombing).”
exceropt of a interview with Brezinski ,,,Brezinski can be compared to Kissinger…..
“Le Nouvel Observateur: And also, don’t you regret having helped future terrorists, having given them weapons and advice?
Zbigniew Brzezinski: What is most important for world history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? Some Islamic hotheads or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war? ”
Le Nouvel Observateur: “Some hotheads?” But it has been said time and time again: today Islamic fundamentalism represents a world-wide threat…
Zbigniew Brzezinski: Rubbish! ” http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm
And here is our Muslim ‘extremists’ who you are fear-mongering against Shradrach …. you could learn something from them …. your a disgrace to normal NZers
https://twitter.com/hashtag/50lives?src=hash
https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun
Islamic extremism goes back before OBL was even a twinkle in his old mans eye. You’re defence of the indefensible is sickening.
True that!
And those wolves are inherent in everyone and across faiths and religions.
Sikhs (for example) have the 5 Virtues and the 5 Thieves, others have something similar.
The Virtues: Sat, Santokh, Daya, Nimrata and Pyaar – or loosely – Truth, Contentment, Compassion, Humility/Benevolence and Love
The Thieves: Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Hankaar – or loosely – Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment (to materialism), and Ego/Pride
It seems the Thieves are constantly being fed both consciously and unconsciously, and too often it’s all too hard for the Virtues to survive
OWT
I hadn’t heard of those – thanks.
Reminds me of one bit of lore i know coming from Confucius:
The Three Ways of Acquiring Wisdom – one being taught it as you grow up, the second observing and learning from events and others around you, and the third by personal experience – the bitterest.
For NZ as an entity we have just had an example of the third. It will be bitter indeed if we can’t acquire wisdom as a result of it.
I don’t (now) subscribe to any religion although I do occasionally go to a couple of places of worship with friends and family, and I subscribe to the concept of the ‘Virtues and Thieves’.
The reason being that too often I see various values (not necessarily those as defined above) becoming ritualistic rather than actual belief and practice. Especially so when I see a couple of our politicians constantly veering toward thievery and generally hell bent on making life hard for others. I’m not sure how else to explain it.
I’m also not surprised why various indigenous people and ‘minorities’ eventually get really pissed off, and how too often we tell them how they’re entitled to get angry, but just so long as they do it according to our standards of politeness.
Jehan Casinader has quite a good take on things on Stuffed:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111449286/christchurch-mosque-shootings-the-last-thing-we-should-do-right-now-is-close-our-eyes.
It also goes to the way some of our public services have been operating and now the need for an inquiry.
Sorry….constant interruptions so the above might be a bit all over the place……. Might complete my rave later
Good rave Owt. And I can see why minorities get angry. But I would rather they stick to methods of politeness; and also why we
should try everything along that line until it shows its getting nowhere. And then contemplate other ways.
Think of how the Brit women acted to get the vote.
They had asked for it and been put off.
They served in one of the early wars, Boer and/or WW1 to show that they were individuals who could act as loyal citizens and then asked for the vote and were put off.
They had to sacrifice themselves, make a nuisance of themselves that couldn’t be brushed off. They chained themselves to monuments to formal, pompous government. They were jailed. They went on a hunger strike. They were force-fed with tubes put down into their stomachs. One threw herself onto the public racetrack to die under the Queen’s racehorse.
That was acting against the establishment without making everyone a victim.
But it is better if we can be firm and stick to the kaupapa, like Tuhoe. Be invaded by the country’s forces and put through the trauma of that and being taken to Court. And hold firm and get your Treaty settlement. That is an example of superior strategy and high collective control and mana equal to Ghandis. That has not been understood and honoured by most NZs.
I don’t know if this actually speaks to your comment. But I just wanted to say it all anyway. Let’s press forward being kind to each other, and trying to keep on track, so we can work collectively and well to initiate what we can after thinking, deciding, planning – to cope with the frightening future. We may have to sacrifice ourselves, have a shorter life than we and others expect, but look for worthy, good-natured companions. Without bloodshed and grief that could be avoided.
I like the French group singing with Edith Piaf who seem to represent the strength and togetherness of the French after WW2 and belief that they have something good that will triumph over the dark past. Their religion is to the fore in this video, with nostalgic model village, which has brought dark moments itself, yet one feels that they will overcome this also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gucL2YziPo
This is the group with Edith Piaf on stage.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuKLxx-ETY
I’m not in total disagreement with you @ grey.
But I also remember how we used to treat the battered wife (the woifey, the missus, the possession) constantly being given the biff and told to get back in the kitchen.
At one time, we’d remind her of the sanctity of marriage, then marriage guidance – which if nothing was resolved, a few more appointments, then a few more, then a few more might help.
Now the best advice is to get the hell out of there in the first instance. And in some cases it takes a bloody crane to get her to do so.
Yesterday’s Open Mike was a bit of an eye-opener to me I have to say.
Consider https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-03-2019/#comment-1599314.
After all the hand wringing, and in a lot of cases, exercising of egos and all that went on in that thread – I got 2 replies: WtB and Anne – both of whom I pick have suffered a bit of shit in their lives.
Realistically, the guy that assaulted my ‘second/extended’ family member is not going to change without a fight. (He’s sooooo tuff).
I posted it because I was interested in the reactions.
I (actually he, the victim – because it’s his decision) has a few options – such as an assault complaint, the HRC, and even INZ who could, and should rescind the prick’s visa.
But like others have experienced, results in the past haven’t been all that flash.
But we’ll see I guess.
just a P.S.
The only thing I feel the need to comply with are the terms and conditions of this site, although I do appreciate some might be offended within those confines.
(I’m half expecting an @ Wayne to pop up at any moment with some sage advice preaching an Alfred Lord Fuckywucky’s idea on law – I’ll remember the Good Lord’s real name the minute I hit the key )
Sorry
“The story was first published in a 1978 book called “The Holy Spirit: Activating God’s Power in Your Life,” by Billy Graham. Graham admitted he invented the story for a sermon some 40 years ago.
…The story was meant to drive home the concept that we are all born with evil inside us. Our inner darkness, or the “original sin” if you will.
…Which is ironic, because he used a Native American elder to tell a story that a Native American elder would never tell because it’s centered in Christian belief not Native American beliefs.”
https://crossingenres.com/you-know-that-charming-story-about-the-two-wolves-its-a-lie-d0d93ea4ebff
Hi Marty.
That’s an interesting bit of background information. I’m not surprised the wolf story is a construct – it sounds “twee”, like the starfish on the beach and other stories of that nature. I didn’t read it as “original sin” at all, more the tendency to catastrophise, attack, blame, plot revenge, replay horror scenes in our minds; all things that humans do (I think) and suffer accordingly. One “wolf” is that soul-destroying behaviour, the other, forgiveness and avoidance of indulging in such thoughts. The response from the Muslim community in New Zealand seems to be to have chosen the life-affirming path, where others are churning through thoughts of revenge and punishment.
That’s how I see it anyway. I’m pretty sure there are religious leaders who have noticed the phenomenon and preached forgiveness as a tool for freeing one’s self of the wolf that gnaws.
Oh, that old pal of Nixon.
And his son, the Trump sympathizer.
Soothsayers since forever.
I hope people will stop invalidating the feelings of others:
Rather, acknowledge their feelings or leave them to talk to others who understand.
Anger is simply part of the grieving process. It is normal, you are not a fiend. Do not act out, talk about it.
“In Stanley Kubrick’s ‘A Clockwork Orange’, Alex was subject to ‘therapy’ consisting of enforced media of atrocities and violence. I want this terrorist to suffer a similar fate but flipped around. The media of love and kindness, relentlessly portrayed”
Don’t know if this would work, but I do quite like the idea, maybe done over a long period of time in very slow and subtle ways, carefully curating all his movie, book, media intake etc, of course at the same time have the right people dive deep into the reasons why he ended up internalizing so much hate and anger.
Adrian That is an interesting idea. Alex was left very sensitive and almost like a goat in a pride of lions, and on a measure of mind strength as vulnerable as he was callous and vicious before.
But your idea could give a new meaning to brain ‘washing’. Wiping the layers of dirt and festering nasty ideas away. Trying to fill his brain for a length of time with positive things, visualisation of himself as a powerfully good person, and overcoming the bad things he comes across, or tolerating the small things as not to make them seem part of a bad tapestry but more like occasional insect bites.
If it worked he might come out being like Superman or Batman or one of the Heroes in popular culture. That would be better I think.
Why does he deserve all the good stuff? What about others? What about us?
Incognito
One of my reckons is that we are probably so smart that we can do all our own brainwashing, or not. Uncertainty. I would like to come here and be filled with positivity when I get up to rush off and spread it around.
Unfortunately I am not smart, and keep coming here and try to put positivity in, and get negativity back. Some times I turn and try putting negativity in to see if its like a match and I can strike a wee flame of positivity, but rising damp usually prevails. I keep trying though. How long is too long? Why should I give my good stuff away, and get brown things that some say are beans back. Will they grow I wonder, and if so, into what?
All good.
One calls it brainwashing, another calls it (re-)education.
If we know how turn (convert) somebody who has committed atrocities into a ‘Super Hero’ why do we wait, why don’t we get on with it and turn all of us into super heroes? My guess is that we don’t know shit about these things and increasing societal problems are not just signs, they are evidence of our ignorance, denial, and refusal to learn and adapt. Just look at our bulging prison population, or (domestic) violence, or …
Due to its dualistic nature, there is no positivity without negativity. You need both to get work done.
You keep trying till you give up but you will never stop moving.
What a lovely gesture WTB. A lasting ray of hope. Good for you.
I have the permaculture people to thank, it was their idea and I asked to help. It was very cathartic for me.
You might like what happened next too.
At the bus stop going home I caught an obviously distressed guys eye and smiled. He came over and sat down, and no bull, the conversation goes
“How are you today”
“Well I’ve taken all my medication, but I’m still really upset.
My girl said she loved me then went off with her ex. Mum says there’s plenty of fish in the ocean but I’m still really sad”
“Well of course you are sad. Losing someone hurts.”
“Yes” and he smiles.
His halitosis was peeling paint off the bus seat.
“It’s good you’ve recognized that taking your medication is important when you are feeling hurt, but what about your other self care. Have you eaten today?”
“No”
“Yeah it’s hard to even think of eating sometimes. But it’s important, especially when we’re upset, to take care of ourselves. When I’m upset, I eat pies. Mince and cheese, yum. I like to eat the pie and think about the pie and be grateful for the wonderful pie.”
He laughs.
My bus was pulling in.
“I’m sorry, I have to go, will you be OK”
“Yes” he says.
He gets up and moves off, across the front of the bus as I board. I watch him cross the road, head up, he turns the corner and goes into Wendys.
That’s some comfort food there too.
Yes You are right… got me pegged.. old softy. Cheers.
Less of the old softy eh!
Maybe a bit more of what is the natural (before a shitload of dysfuntion and artificial construct came along to disrupt it all).
And try not to laugh when they all end up wearing their various colosotmy bags trying to keep it all in, within their own perceptions of a polite company.
MSM for example are scurrying around now if you hadn’t noticed (as is dear wee Soimon) trying hard to present themselves as people familiar with a bit of humility – some with an even harder row to hoe, trying to protest their membership to the human race.
And Jesus ….. even Soimon is trying his best to redeem himself by calling for a Royl Kwoiry whilst toding his best not to appear as a cunning shithouse rat who’s more familiar with scuttling up a darinpipe.
I’m not sure of the Caci Clinic’s base hourly rate, nor that of the spin doctor’s fee, or even what the newly discovered Murry is expected to pay to gai membership.
The mathematics of it all should be obvious, even tho’ we might not live to see it all play out
@PB – you really really are awful (but I like you)
Climate change now showing it’s devastating effects in Southern Africa now sadly.
BBC today showed that helicopters flew over central Africa and it looked like an inland sea and the aid rescue was abandoned when the Helicopter failed to locate the “usual land markers” as they were all submersed under water.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-47609136
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/19/cyclone-idai-worst-weather-disaster-to-hit-southern-hemisphere-mozambique-malawi
Here is a guy telling climate change like I don’t want to know about. Got to take my medicine though, knowing that it might not make me better but I have to at least listen.
David Wallace-Wells on Big Think
Tech billionaires could end climate change. So why aren’t they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvDDDj7GkiM
This is what the world will be like if we do not act on climate change.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17aE91SBMoY
Big Think
Published on Mar 14, 2019
– The best-case scenario of climate change is that world gets just 2°C hotter, which scientists call the “threshold of catastrophe”.
– Why is that the good news? Because if humans don’t change course now, the planet is on a trajectory to reach 4°C at the end of this century, which would bring $600 trillion in global climate damages, double the warfare, and a refugee crisis 100x worse than the Syrian exodus.
– David Wallace-Wells explains what would happen at an 8°C and even 13°C increase. These predictions are horrifying, but should not scare us into complacency. “It should make us focus on them more intently,” he says.
David Wallace-Wells is a national fellow at the New America foundation and a columnist and deputy editor at New York magazine. He was previously the deputy editor of The Paris Review. He lives in New York City. His latest book is The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming (https://goo.gl/ih35YX)
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/2/22/18188562/climate-change-david-wallace-wells-the-uninhabitable-earth
Increased solar activity could be related: “BIG SUNSPOT: Four days ago, sunspot AR2736 didn’t exist. Now the rapidly-growing active region stretches across more than 100,000 km of the solar surface and contains multiple dark cores larger than Earth. Moreover, it has a complicated magnetic field that is crackling with C-class solar flares…”
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NRA: ‘Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun’*
https://www.npr.org/2012/12/21/167824766/nra-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun
Busted:
It seems that on the day of the massacre in Christchurch, that the police and the SAS were coincidentally conducting a full blown mass shooting incident exercise in the city. And could not have been better prepared to react to the mass shooting when it broke out.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111404324/global-expert-sharpshooters-were-training-in-the-city-just-as-the-christchurch-mosque-shooting-unfolded
*(On the news that the NRA want to stick their oar into the New Zealand debate on Gun violence)
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/national-rifle-association-in-the-us-offers-to-help-nz-gun-owners.html?utm_source=actionstation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=blast1621&source=actionstation&bucket=blast1621&fbclid=IwAR2d5mVdi47XuTfLfQmVPFw5LrTs1JBba04VeuXlhxcm-LCqtBPR07MwJYs
‘Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun’
Is the NRA now advocating that all muslims should be armed?
‘After the Sandy Hook massacre in 2012NRA chairman Wayne LaPierre doubled down on its pro-gun stance, rejecting any gun control and blaming violent video games instead’
‘”Isn’t fantasising about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography.”
When these ‘men’ at gun clubs are firing their MSSA at silhouettes of people Wayne, what are they fantasizing about? can you be sure about what they are thinking? perhaps some of your members are getting kicks out of exactly that?
The NRA would have everyone at every mosque and church and temple armed with loaded weapons. All would be facing towards the doors so they could not be surprised by evil entrants with murderous intent behind them.
Yet with all that expert firepower on the spot, guns contributed somewhere between very little and precisely zero to stopping and apprehending the fuckwit.
He was driven off from his second attack at the Linwood mosque by a good man who grabbed the nearest solid object as a makeshift weapon. Then as he was driving away, skilled police driving stopped his car and officers manhandled him out of the car and onto the ground.
I have yet to see any reports that even a single shot was actually fired at the fuckwit. At most, it’s possible that having a gun pointed at him in his disabled car might have persuaded him to get out of his car relatively quietly rather than trying to grab one of his remaining guns to carry on his fuckwittery.
edit: But “good man with a gun” fantasies contributed to making the situation even worse, when at least one private citizen turned up with a gun, diverting police attention and resources to dealing with an apparently expanded threat.
The ‘good man with a gun’ theory explodes quickly as good men probably won’t all arrive at the same time. The first good man to arrive finds the bad man shooting. The second good man to arrive sees two people shooting, the third good man finds……you get the picture. Even if the first good man puts the shooter down, the second good man to arrive sees a man with a gun and people down. I don’t think he’s going to conduct an interview to determine if the armed man standing is good or bad. And the problem escalates from there.
Tue that all points to how dangerous it is to make split-second decisions when holding a split-second killing machine ready to go.
How to solve a moral dilemma and avoid an existential crisis.
When not sure whether you are a good or a bad guy, find a good guy, tell them they are a good guy, and then ask them whether you are a good guy. The answer will set you free.
When not sure whether you are a good or a bad guy, find a bad guy, tell them they are a bad guy, and then ask them whether you are a bad guy. The answer will set you free.
Mitchell and Web: https://youtu.be/uK-kWRAVmRU
🙂
“‘Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun’”
The Christchurch lunatic thought he WAS “the good guy with a gun” FFS.
When it comes to front-line law ‘n order I would prefer on the whole to leave the determination of who are the good guys and the bad guys to an uncorrupted, tax-payer funded police force.
NRA are lunatics – declare them a terrorist organisation and arrest and deport any one of them who comes here.
Fossil fuel execs recorded having a giggle at a Ritz Carlton ….but her emails!
Trump himself was a driving force behind deregulating the energy industry, ordering the government in 2017 to weed out federal rules “that unnecessarily encumber energy production.” In a 2017 order, Zinke called for his deputy secretary—Bernhardt—to make sure the department complied with Trump’s regulatory rollbacks.
The petroleum association was just one industry group pushing for regulatory relief — the American Petroleum Institute, the U.S. Oil and Gas Association and the Western Energy Alliance also were active. But since IPAA created its wish list, the Interior Department has acceded to nearly all its requests:
* Rescinded fracking rules meant to control water pollution.
[…]
* Withdrawn rules that limit climate-change causing methane gas releases.
[…]
* Abandoned environmental restoration of public land damaged by oil development.
[…]
* Ended long-standing protections for migratory birds.
[…]
“Scott Pruitt, he came from Oklahoma, and we have a lot of friends in common and I thought that’s what we were going to talk about, we did that for about three minutes,” Russell said. “And then he started asking very technical questions about methane, about ozone … and if Scott Pruitt thought he was going to go deep nerd …”
The audience began laughing.
“And what was really great is there was about four or five EPA staffers there, who were all like, ‘Write that down, write that down,’ all the way through this,’’ Russell continued. “And when we left, I said that was just our overview.”
The audience laughed again.
“So it’s really a new world for us and very, very helpful.”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/23/trump-big-oil-industry-influence-investigation-zinke-226106
well they wanted him to shake things up.
guess what, he is shaking things up.
this is what you get when you vote for a destroyer rather then a bridge builder who may not build the best bridges but who at least does not burn down the last bridge usable.
So no they and all his enablers and facilitators and excuse makers shall reap the misery they planted.
Its gonna suck for us too, but chances are we will be better prepared as we don’t expect anything but a burned to the ground earth.
This academic specialising in history and watching the white supremacist movement gave a learning experience to me. I knew that there were large groups devoted to the idea, but didn’t take in the breadth. It seems a cult, a bit like Exclusive Brethren in that they divide off from society in their commitments to each other, just interfacing with society as required to do well; are actually hostile to society, but keeping this hidden most of the time.
The historian interviewed is from the USA and has a very good overview of the white supremacists.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018687962/professor-kathleen-belew-christchurch-terrorist-driven-by-classic-white-power-ideologies
Professor Kathleen Belew: Christchurch terrorist driven by classic white power ideologies
The Associate Professor of U.S. History and the College at the University of Chicago is the author of Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. In the book she says the soldiers of white power — which the alleged Christchurch mosque shooter claimed to be — “are not lone wolves but highly organised cadres motivated by a coherent and deeply troubling worldview of white supremacy, anticommunism and apocalypse”.
She joins the show to look at the case of the Christchurch shooter and how his tragic story is just the latest in a shocking series of violent events carried out by a small section of society hellbent on starting a race war
This weeks episode of The Listening Post … first story up the medias reaction to the terrorist attack in ChCh. It’s a MUST watch, the story on ChCh is excellent, IMHO.
If the scum bag grew up in Aussie, did the media play a part? Rupert Murdoch…. the narrative his publications spin is in part to blame for the tragedy in ChCh.
Murdoch has been using his media monopoly in Aussie to fuel Islamophobia for decades. Lining his pockets with click bait headlines which distort reality and push a much more sinister agenda.
Media as accessory to the crime?
Nothing comes from nothing: we trace the history of Islamophobia in the western media
(first story up, around 10 mins long)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVpt8HPZBQ8
the politicians role, growing up under Howard in OZ, Bush in the US and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and the beginning of endless war would have also had an affect.
Cinny, that episode highlights why I try and call out the fish wrap aka the herald every time they publish some blatantly biased political propaganda by the usual poodles who we are now all hopefully aware of.
The “white redemption” angle is interesting and needs further investigation. The media versus the media, screening by the media, at a media outlet near you could be the bleeding edge journalism of the times.
I would have to think that Jacinda Ardern’s response was purely her humanity on display and not some act to be part of an organised “white redemption” by media. The media, wittingly or unwittingly, have been using the Goebbels playbook for over half a century.
Nice.
“While the whole country is mourning, and we as a nation are having to confront the white supremacy which we let grow in our backyard, we at The Pantograph Punch think it is of the utmost importance to ensure we are continuing to centre the voices of our Muslim brothers and sisters. Following the terrorist attack on the Muslim community in Ōtautahi, we’ve compiled an incomplete reading list of voices to listen to, from Muslim perspectives surround the attacks, how to combat white defensiveness and how to talk about tragedies to our children.”
https://www.pantograph-punch.com/post/amplifying-muslim-voice-a-reading-list
Heat the pot and it will boil over – stochastic terrorism.
Using the Anti-Defamation League’s Hate, Extremism, Anti-Semitism, Terrorism map data (HEAT map), we examined whether there was a correlation between the counties that hosted one of Trump’s 275 presidential campaign rallies in 2016 and increased incidents of hate crimes in subsequent months.
To test this, we aggregated hate-crime incident data and Trump rally data to the county level and then used statistical tools to estimate a rally’s impact. We included controls for factors such as the county’s crime rates, its number of active hate groups, its minority populations, its percentage with college educations, its location in the country and the month when the rallies occurred.
We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.
Of course, our analysis cannot be certain it was Trump’s campaign rally rhetoric that caused people to commit more hate crimes in the host county. However, suggestions that this effect can be explained through a plethora of faux hate crimes are at best unrealistic. In fact, this charge is frequently used as a political tool to dismiss concerns about hate crimes. Research shows it is far more likely that hate crime statistics are considerably lower because of underreporting.
http://archive.li/sxHuV
Is anyone really surprised with this? His rallies are little more than a rant of vitriol; spouting violence, bigotry, and hate. The true believers are numbed beyond reason and emerge from these rallies full of mindless cant. Whatever he says – that is what they will believe. The Trumpist cult is here and now, full of religious fervour, and willing to do his bidding.
Air NZ has parted company with Virgin over Tasman. Virgin had a consequent drop in business and may have to revert to its budget arm Tiger.
Airnz also seems to be cuddling up to Qantas, a koala bear with sharp teeth. But it is playing a long game which it hopes will win, but Qantas has slit our tyres before.
Earlier,Air New Zealand was pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into Virgin, lifting its equity stake to 26 per cent, and answered the call for more cash five years ago at a time when it was fighting a brutal domestic capacity war with Qantas, then on its knees because of international losses….
About seven million passengers last year crossed the Tasman, regarded as one of the most hotly contested airline routes in the world.
For Virgin, the Tasman represents about 5 per cent of its capacity – it makes its money flying the dense eastern Australian domestic routes. But for Air NZ, the Tasman is where it has around 22 per cent of its seats. It has to get it right….
Luxon and Virgin Australia’s chief executive John Borghetti, who by one account haven’t spoken in two years…
Borghetti – who missed out on the top job at Qantas in 2010 -and Luxon are polar opposites.
Both has their own style: Borghetti, with his tailored Italian suits and fast cars, is different to Luxon, a non-drinking Christian (and someone who has previously talked of his interest in a decidedly un-flashy car – a 1966 Riley Elf). The pair clashed when Luxon sat on the Virgin board…
Virgin is now in improving financial shape, in August posting its best underlying result in 10 years, and Borghetti is due to leave the airline within the next year.
Airnz had reps in Australia, who seem to have built up kudos with Qantas .
Former Air New Zealand executives Lesley Grant and Andrew David were among the Qantas team, there with Air NZ’s chief revenue officer Cam Wallace.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12147795
Oct 2018 – Air NZ and Qantas hook up this weekend as Virgin Australia goes it alone
The Australian airline carries about 24 million passengers a year, with about 5 per cent of that capacity on the Tasman routes….
Air New Zealand, which has about 39 per cent of Tasman traffic, is operating now more widebody jets across the Tasman now and has put more capacity into Brisbane.
Asked about the analyst’s report, a Virgin spokeswoman said three new routes which added an extra 17 percent capacity to its operations in the market and contributed to the lower load factor for November.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12215405
There is no room for complacency in the airline market obviously. It appears that there will be competitive pricing across the Tasman for the near future.
Just thinking re above the viewpoint is all about growth still. And somewhere in the articles I was reading it said that Australia is the biggest by far for incoming passengers to NZ. We could start introducing Visas and have a range of results, including cutting our airline traffic between countries to a manageable level. And
perhaps look at having our AirNZ employees working for the country’s best interests and not their own. I find it hard to think that they could think entirely clearly about NZ when they might be offered a job in Qantas for being a good co-operative player between the two companies when the individual thought fit.
Veganism is virtue, huh?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/vegan-youtube-is-imploding-as-stars-like-rawvana-bonny-rebecca-and-stella-rae-change-diets?ref=scroll
Approximately 40% of the average NZ household’s carbon footprint comes from the food we eat.
The single thing everyone can do that will have the greatest impact on that carbon footprint is to reduce the amount of meat and milk we consume.
Doesn’t apply to vegans though – useless sponging bastards. Stop ‘guilting’ us out!
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018687391/10-ways-to-neutralise-your-personal-carbon-footprint
No argument with what you’ve just said. Also, the more your remaining meat consumption is shifted away from ruminants (cows, sheep, deer, goats) to non-ruminants like chicken, pork, horse, the better for the environment and climate.
I just enjoy seeing obnoxious sanctimonious show-off prats get busted for hypocrisy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibjKhZGUua8
Attached are about 1800 comments. About halfway through they became more and more vile and include calls for the “assassination of NZ PM”. No, I’m not going to use her name.
The majority of the vile comments come from people with English sounding names and good English skills.
I’m a little concerned about the safety of our Prime Minister, particularly after the global praise for her leadership. It’s at times like these, when a socially conscious leader is drawing huge support that they are most at risk.
I hope her detail and the police in general have recognised the increased threat from right wing extremists against Jacinda Ardern. Already frothing at the bit, I suspect some will begin to go into full meltdown at the sight of among other things, her image on the tallest building in the world embracing Muslins, and the idea she would be nominated for a Nobel peace prize.
That’s why I put the link up.
I’m sure the authorities are well aware and protection has been hugely increased. The thing is, it’s going to have to continue at an optimum level for a long time.
Don’t assume, pass the link etc to the police etc.
Absolutely. I find it odd that some of the old left find this action difficult to accept.
RWNJ’s will be seething with the good press our PM is getting.
I think they are in shock at the moment.
I hope this event and the PM’s response has helped them take a step back and review their values but I suspect most will double down.
They are already arguing that their speech is being threatened but just how much oppressive speech by the most powerful group in the world should be let go?
The same chilling fears for Jacinda Ardern’s safety also struck me. Without wanting to sound bloodthirsty, I think, or hope, that even the nuttiest Super-Right nutter would have to consider that Jacinda is the mother of a young child, one of the most popular PMs we have had at this time, and anyone who hurt her would be likely to have a very hard time in prison, maybe be lucky to make it to court alive (look at Lee Harvey Oswald), and be bloody lucky to live comfortably afterwards… I hope the fear goes both ways and works as a deterrent.
Horribly uncivilised, but some people work at that horribly uncivilised level – like that cretin last Friday.
Btw, if the comments don’t appear just click onto title at top of video @ 12
I’ve been reporting hundreds of hate comments under NZ coverage all week. This is new though and very disturbing.
When I report comments, they vanish from my view, but I wonder, does they also vanish from others view?
Stuff’s editors’ picks: Parliament’s mass staff walkout.
Stuff’s most popular: Nearly 30 back office workers have quit Parliament in three months.
The headlines in Stuff’s politics section: Parliament’s mass staff walkout. Parliament’s back office staff are quitting in droves, costing taxpayers almost $250,000.
Turns out it the exact number is 28, five of whom were executives and it included one retirement. This is from a total of “just over 700 staff” with no data given for the ‘normal’ churn.
I got a very different impression from those headlines.
After a very quick search I found that “the average turnover rate is around 10 percent” and that last year the turnover was at an all-time high of 16%.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1812/S00114/highest-annual-turnover-of-staff-ever-at-parliament.htm
I think that someone expressed an opinion about parliamentary staff and how they would find it hard to change from their basic behaviour over the last nine years of National. Perhaps that accounts for the 16% that left last year. There may be a chance of having a new approach to the politicians passing through, and the people they administer policies to.
Yes, but I was intrigued how these headlines raise an expectation (with me) before even reading the article. The manufacturing (of consent or discontent) process acts through very simple cues, especially when placed ‘at eye level’.
It has now moved to the National section on Stuff’s landing page (online front page), with a photo. So, clearly they (?) want people to read it …
Lol. Perhaps they might call an enquiry into their association with islamaphobic blog sites instead.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/chch-terror/385460/national-calls-for-inquiry-into-nz-s-intelligence-agencies
Ok, silly question time:
“Has anyone here actually seen the video in question? Any comments on a comparison between the official narrative and the evidence in the video?”
(Side note: since the NZ attack, Youtube have removed the time dated search feature.)
Actually I’v quickly done the maths on the back of my overdue tax return: don’t answer the above question unless you’re sure you know the correct answer.
“official narrative”.
Fuck off.
I know in real life a few people who were in the area at the time. I know, in real life, one or two people who did watch the full thing with more professional background than someone who will use the term “official narrative”.
I chose not to view it because I already knew enough. So the correct answer is “fuck off”.
Certainly sounds like a Nazi puncher – they could use you on the streets in France right now, where the Army has been given the go to shoot the unarmed civilians…
…and by “professional”, do you mean people who will work for money? What happened to respect for unpaid, and charity work? Your politics would benefit from more time with women’s-rights-groups.
I stand by my previous response.
Kia ora The AM Show duncan your m8 have had some there true chameleon colours revealed lately there is more dirt to come Iam manukāwhaki coffee social media muppet.
Ka pai to the new social media on line movie makers the old movie maker have been controlled so only content is positive for the 00.1 % and every other class voice is silence a lot of good people use film to get the truth out to the PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE The new Age is here and now.
The west coast mayor is a climate change denier fool.
duncan We know you are lieing you go on the net all the time to read my post you and your m8s have been attacking social media because it gives Eco Maori part of my Mana that is quite plain to see but social media is like Eco Maori all ready out of the box and know one CAN STOP US.
I know I have Bill Gates attention he thinks it OK the Way of the world’s society is at the minute YEA RIGHT.
If the billionaire were socially considering they would be pouring billion in to protecting our Mokopunas future by putting money into green energy and 3 world nation not just drip feeding these problems.
There you go wanker airing this dick heads story he was probably a kid taken into state care abuse by the state hence he commtied those crimes the IDIOT is and was never going to get out of jail with the proal system this is just another kick of dirt in the face of Maori it could have been dead a buryed years ago. But it show how incredibly incompetent the police force is they set up Porter they set him up and new someone was still at large committing these crimes against Wahine WTF.
royal cover up commission look at the little Pike River Mine desaster they got everyone’s to sign a letter of confidentiality What are they hiding. The force is covering its Ass its CORRUPT.
So long as the school systems changes start dilivering better OUT COMEs for the Maori and the lower classes its OK.
The education system is not giving Maori tamariki a fair start up they ladders of Life everyone’s else has a huge head start over OUR Tamariki we need to install a culture in Maori that education is a MUST to achieveing a good life this will lift Maori Mana we need Maori doctors nurses coders every professional sector is lacking in Maori people in them that has to change .
What a load of shit mark just because your lot get the best out of the education system it ain’t delivering the same results for Maori and NZ future will be stained by not correcting the wrongs of a racily biest education system.
Artificial intelligence is a program that learns by its mistakes but a supercomputer can make trillions of choice in second it could run the word once Quntam computers are master no data will be safe they are storing all the world data even the incypted data they are storing that so when they master Quntam computers they will be able to de code the data no secrets in the world will be kept SAFE.
Yes I say that the people the spy’s have been focusing on are not a threat Maori green Muslim people ights these are leftys people they are pro peace that tell me that the spy’s agree with the Alt ight white supremacists that is plan to SEE that backs up my words against these fools. Can see that ational shonky loaded the spy’s up with his redneck m8s and focuses them on people who would take his power away from him plan to see that. Ka kite ano
Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFcmNu4KdGI
This is what we have to focouse on human caused climate change not trump brexit all the other bullshit the oil barrons throw up to stop the world taking there power of control on the world with CARBON it is the comidity that controls the world these greedy fools will burn our world for there neanderthal power.
Thanks to Chinas manufacturing power solar wind are cheaper than carbon thermal power green energy uses a fraction of the water that carbon thermal power uses .
Sir David Attenborough has announced his new documentary topic: climate change.
The “urgent” one-off film will focus on the various threats climate change poses and any possible solutions.
Titled Climate Change: The Facts, the new documentary will feature footage from around the world, showcasing the damage and impact global warming has already had on our planet, as well as interviews with climatologists and meteorologists.
He will work to explore the science behind extreme weather conditions experienced all around the world, with a focus on the wildfires in California at the end of 2018.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/111478391/trees-slow-climate-change
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/111541194/sir-david-attenborough-tackles-climate-change-in-new-documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZEYz1oGQ0
The NZ UN justice system.
How recruitment works all the boss are Christian so people with the same self righteous ideology rise to the top fast Maori join the force he/she see undignified behaviour he/she is told to ignore it that the system image is protected first and formost.
They are not happy they leave after 6 years because they joined the forces to make a better society for Maori they can see that they were pushing shit uphill.
A bright snot nose self righteous Christian joins his dad was a cop he has been bullied at school has a problem with brown people he rise quickly up the ranks because he has the same opinion as the boss he gets a job with the sis or gcsb be for she /he is 30 years old he now has all the power of and minupulating of the NZ JUSTICE SYSTEM at his fingers tips he can bribe narks under cover witness who one can not defend themselves from to sing a tune against someone Gisborne man his boss has sighted him on a person Next Minute Eco Maori and he loses his marbles his m8 takes over
You see people there is know protacal for people to be given a promotion in the force its up to the bosses who give there redneck m8 all the rizes in rank and pay hence we end up with a justice system that treats the lower classes like shit instead of doing there job and protecting the People
And Maori the lower classes of people have a impossible task at rising up the ranks of the unjustified system.
Ka kite ano
Some Eco Maori Music for the minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yA82CFvisw
This is after trump has thrown a spanner in the green energy works and tryed to atificaly in flate carbon prices the carbon barons OWN HIS ASS
Around three-quarters of US coal production is now more expensive than solar and wind energy in providing electricity to American households, according to a new study.
“Even without major policy shift we will continue to see coal retire pretty rapidly,” said Mike O’Boyle, the co-author of the report for Energy Innovation, a renewables analysis firm. “Our analysis shows that we can move a lot faster to replace coal with wind and solar. The fact that so much coal could be retired right now shows we are off the pace.”
The study’s authors used public financial filings and data from the Energy Information Agency (EIA) to work out the cost of energy from coal plants compared with wind and solar options within a 35-mile radius. They found that 211 gigawatts of current US coal capacity, 74% of the coal fleet, is providing electricity that’s more expensive than wind or solar.
Most US coal plants are contaminating groundwater with toxins, analysis finds
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By 2025 the picture becomes even clearer, with nearly the entire US coal system out-competed on cost by wind and solar, even when factoring in the construction of new wind turbines and solar panels.
“We’ve seen we are at the ‘coal crossover’ point in many parts of the country but this is actually more widespread than previously thought,” O’Boyle said. “There is a huge potential for wind and solar to replace coal, while saving Ka kite ano P.S The stea tarrifs were aimed at green energy construction links below
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/25/coal-more-expensive-wind-solar-us-energy-study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xtf9QE-lME
The sandflys have my son caught up in their Web of deceit they have there m8 caught in their hinaki because their mother has never supported my MANA They don’t listen to my advice I tryed to get there in laws to help but to no avail they would rather risk there my Mokopunas future prosperity than expose the puppet caught in the sandflys web of Decite Ma te wa I will have the last laugh at them Ka kite ano
https://youtu.be/QAB6aXOfUmU
Kia ora Newshub what’s the west port mayor saying now about human caused climate change is he still in denial Eco Maori just hopes no people lose their lives.
Yes the Mana of Wai is awesome that is why we must respect Papatuanukue.
NO comment on Saint John the ones in the bay of plenty will know why.
That is not on Wahine being internally searched in Prison illegally you see the authorities play with the innocent people who don’t no there human ights they have tryed and are trying that on Eco Maori I give them the titi but I feel for the people who are innocent that is why the people need to get a education. As for trump the wealthy 00.1 % would rather have a racist bigot who hands them out cash than a person who will look after all the people. What a SHAM he was shit scared before Muler report was released that told me he was guilty now that they have not shown the TRUTH he is using it as a weapon tipical REDNECK. I Seen Muler he is worried
At scotmo is just jumping on that subject to boost his popularity that’s what I see. Ka kite ano
Kia ora Te ao Maori News let’s hope the Crown treats Maori fairly and not just play lip service on the issue Maori have with the way Wai is being treated by some around the Moutu and the other issues we have with water. Hehe I got shonky pulled from the Ngati-porou website I just about chucked up when I seen a photo of him giving one of our great leaders a Hongi he definitely was playing with MAORI MANA. Not just Muslims human rights are being breach but good on them for rising the issue. I have said that Wai Awa needs to be given more respect. The Kaituna awa deaths that local tangata whenua have conserns about. Ka kite ano