Open mike 25/07/2011

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  1. happynz 1

    Wow! Lots of lovely white stuff out there this morning. I imagine there are lots of chilly houses here this morning. Rug up Cantabs!

  2. Recently lprent posted Climate of Deception at Fox News. Fox News can be worth watching, it isn’t all bad, but the network has obvious political agendas.

    It may be a case of pot and kettle. Is there also a Climate of deception at The Standard?
    The inevitable “attack the messenger” campaign will probably avoid addressing the self deception.

    What any blog does is it’s own choice, but if posters obviously represent the ambitions if not the views of a political party the integrity of both are interwoven. It’s your call people, but Labour’s credibility is on the line.

    • Tiger Mountain 2.1

      I detected 9 reasons to pulverise this post upon one reading, please PG spare us first thing on a Monday morning in future.

      • Akldnut 2.1.1

        PeteG apart from most of the commentators being of a similar ilk if you were to post this sort of spin at the sewer or kiwi blog you’d be ravaged and not in the nice way you’d get here.

        Mind you looking at the history of your attack lines it wouldn’t be out of the question for you to get that here.

        • Pete George 2.1.1.1

          I’ve been ravaged at KB a damn sight more than here. Obviously people and blogs don’t like being confronted, I don’t either, but sometimes it’s necessary to stand up and point out crap to promote positive change.

          • mickysavage 2.1.1.1.1

            PeteG’s cunning plan is to increase the number of hits on his website to give it credibility.  He does this by posting a confrontational comment and a link early on in the general debate posts.  Today he posted the above and this on the sewer early on:
             

            The Zetetic/Mallard? thing raises wider question about anonymous political blogging. The Internet could be used to promote openness and honesty, the transparency but entrenched party practices can instead allow deception and dishonesty to overcome sensibility.
            No party is immune, but most in the spotlight is the Climate of deception at The Standard.”

             
            Can I urge everyone to avoid the temptation and not click through.
             

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.1.1.1

              You mean that ass-hole is link farming? Figures.

            • weka 2.1.1.1.1.2

              Ooops, too late, but will certainly never visit his site again.

              • Jim Nald

                I figured that out from day one when he was ‘link whoring’. I am sorry I didn’t bring that to the attention of others here previously.
                I have never visited his site and don’t intend to. The tonnes of rubbish he spouts on here give enough indication of how much more garbage he has. I don’t even bother to read his comments on TS and just scroll past them.
                There are many other better things to do. Watching grass grow would give more insight into life, even if not eating it (it = grass).

                [lprent: Link-whoring with appropriate comment isn’t something that we moderate for (we’ll moderate out anyone that does it inappropriately – because they are trying to use this site for spamming). ]

            • Frank Macskasy 2.1.1.1.1.3

              The good thing is that this thread has been reported over at TM’s messageboard; http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=770521&topic=7&#p15515857

              The frenzy shown over “The Standard” suggests that National is getting worried that Labour is a real threat.

              • lprent

                Same thing happened before the last election. This time we are somewhat more prepared when we get the bloody irritating trolls who just try to disrupt the site. They tend not to like my anti troll tactics.

                But we see minor spates of it every time that Labour or the left starts making headway. Nice to see it happen again. Now let’s just hope that none of the Labour MPs (or their servers) disrupt the flow this time.

            • Lazy Susan 2.1.1.1.1.4

              Yes Mickey, I had figured that this was what Pete G (aka as the Secret Squirrel) is up to.

              Unfortunately I did visit his website a couple of times before this realisation. All I found was long-form badly thought out drivel. Needless to say I won’t be going there again, but if that’s the content you want Pete’s site’s the perfect place to be.

    • PeteG You have this annoying habit of trolling.

      You keep having your arse handed to you on a plate by the likes of Felix et al. You destroy threads. Your comments vary between the banal and the stupid.

      Posting here is a privilege. IMHO the Standard is one of the most open and has the most robust debate of any I have seen.

      The only entity with credibility problems is yourself. Time to try and get some.

      • Sookie 2.2.1

        I wish there was a ‘Block Pete G’ application on this site that turns his comments blank as I’m totally fed up with seeing his tedious drivel everywhere, even inadvertently out of the corner of my eye.

    • Ianupnorth 2.3

      trying to boost your blog stats mate?

    • prism 2.4

      What a load of pretentious drivel delivered in a sonorous portentous style, but it’s still drivel and merely gives Pete G filler for his pages. Why not set up a wood-whittling circle Pete G? You might end up with something worth viewing.

  3. Here is a the full video: Core of corruption Part 1: In the shadows, which explores the connection between the alleged hijackers and the ruling elite. Very interesting is the operation Able danger which was sabotaged by elements in the US government. Anthony Schaffer, the officer involved in the operation wrote a book about it and while he still hangs on to he idea that is was al Qaeda who did the dirty on 911 his book is of huge value in it;s contribution to the search for truth.

    Anthony has a facebook page and is linked to mine which has the same name as my moniker here.
    In fact quite a few names from the 911 truth movement are connected to my page so have a visit and get closer to the people who actually do the hard slog.

  4. logie97 4

    Anyone out there got access to Ken Ring’s almanack for July? I gather he predicted pretty settled weather in the north for last week…

  5. NickS 5

    I had a dig around for what Hilary Butler, the expert Sunday interviewed on vaccine risks, was involved with and lo behold found she’s firmly in the anti-vaccinations vaccines-cause-autism* loony camp. And couldn’t science to save her life judging by a most on polio on her blog where she failed utterly to understand that there are other things besides polio that can cause paralysis aka aetiology.

    Though I’m a bit too lazy to go fully into cluebat mode and examine the full extent of her stupidity, I can say “wtf?” in relation to Sunday thinking it was a good idea to treat her as any form of expert. Then there that fact they didn’t bother to interview the likes of Sid Offit and David Gorski over in the USA, who have a long and excellent history of explaining vaccination and dealing with anti-vaccination bullshit. And explaining relative risks, i.e.

    btw, “vaccine damage” (or “vaccine injury” in N-Am) is very much a non-diagnostic tool in the hands of people like Butler as they’ll link just about anything with vaccinations without even critically examining causation. In fact there were only two examples last night that were solid, and without access to ACC’s case files on the serious cases, it’s impossible to say with any certainty the causation of those cases…

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    *I heart science: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/02/yet_another_really_bad_day_for_antivacci.php

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      Scientists have for a long time regarded autism as being 90% plus genetically caused.

      Guess what, they were wrong. A recent large scale study looking at over 1000 children determined that actually more than 50% of the risk for autism comes from environmental factors.

      So don’t be too quick to rule things out especially as chemical exposures are likely to play a significant role in that. (In fact I believe the study specifically implicated anti-depressants. Hundreds of thousands of NZ’ers take these drugs every day. Wonder what that is doing for our autism incidence).

      …without even critically examining causation.

      You know and I know that it is extremely difficult to definitively show causation unless the power of a study is very large, or the effect is very large.

      In many cases association is the best one can hope for, and by the time causation can be undeniably demonstrated, thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are likely to have been harmed.

      • McFlock 5.1.1

        argh shit,
         
        Not touching this with a bargepole 🙂
         

      • NickS 5.1.2

        Except of course, it looks strongly like ASD has many possible causations, so without pinning down specific neurological features and setting up tighter definitions and thus sample groups to turn genetics analysis tools on, the 50% narrow sense hereditary found to date makes a lot of sense. Also, if you were more informed about neurological development (and biochem/genetics) you’d know that there’s a massive knot of potential causations during development in the womb that lay down future brain growth and set up gene regulation in the brain. Thus from my perspective and from my understanding of brain development and ASD I see any attempt to pin ASD causation post birth as somewhat flawed….

        Now the fact that SSRI’s are potentially linked* is actually interesting given the role serotonin in the brain in terms of fixing new neural connections, and I can definitely see that as far more potentially plausible. And I have no issues with that, barring that fact that the rise in ASD diagnoses was explained primarily by better awareness (public, GP’s, etc) + changes in diagnostic criteria that included those on the borderlines and the previously misdiagnosed. So thus I’d argue that SSRI’s might not be playing a role, but that’s what well designed ANCOVA GLM studies are for 😛

        You know and I know that it is extremely difficult to definitively show causation unless the power of a study is very large, or the effect is very large.

        In many cases association is the best one can hope for, and by the time causation can be undeniably demonstrated, thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are likely to have been harmed.

        Aetiology not difficult except when dealing with the likes of ASD where there are multiple potential causations, and in the rest of science it’s down to the design of the study and evidence quality, quantity and the plausibility of causation mechanisms. So as a general statement of truth, you’re wrong. At least for publishable claims of causation. Medical diagnostic’s is where you right, and I should have made what I meant by “critically examining causation” a bit more indepth. Such as mentioning the role of statistical evidence + having plausible mechanisms. which in the case of Butler etc are either absent, or seriously flawed, and Butler provides a very clear example of this with her claims about polio….

        In the case of public health risks from pharmaceuticals, pesticides etc, yes there are serious implications concerning their potential causative links to diseases etc, which is why animal testing + glasshouse and field tests are incredibly important. As is long term population/environment monitoring, and robust research funding…

        There’s also the other implication of the causation certainty issue in that we can’t likewise show with any total certainty that any drug/vaccine etc is 100% safe, so we’re left with balancing relative risk estimates. And given how utterly non intuitive that is, even for the moderately statistically literate, it makes it very easy for the anti-vaccination crowd to over inflate potentially risk, creating what is very much a moral hazard on the basis of the rather well known outcomes of low vaccination rates.

        Anyhow, this slightly tangential to the issue of why Sunday bothered with someone who’s very much a crank, rather than talking with medical professionals/researchers. Especially for a lead piece, in light of the anti-vaccination bullshit and the negative public outcomes of it already seen here in NZ with the measles outbreaks we keep having.

        Now I think you could possibly owe me a beer for this, given I could have been sitting nice a warm in the lounge reading Ben Goldacre’s “Bad Science”, instead of in my freezing bedroom 😛

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        *I can has source plz?

    • NickS 5.2

      And Hilary Butler just keeps looking more and more stupid the more I read her blog…

      /shudder

      • Ianupnorth 5.2.1

        As someone who nearly lost a 3 week old child thanks to an un-immunized child in my 6 y.o class at school I have nothing but contempt for those loonies.
        In any medical scenario there is a very small risk of an untoward event; however, the risks of permanent harm to the masses of population from people not immunizing their children is far greater.
        Re. the SSRI – if you check the weird and whacky ‘Flouride is poison’ (sic) group on Facebook you will find all the crazed anti Fluoride and anti-immunisation brigade quoting all manner of junk.
        One example is that Fluoride is being added to water to sedate the masses and that is why it is the active ingredient in SSRI’s

        • higherstandard 5.2.1.1

          I’ll strongly second Ian’s sentiments having spent part of the day cleaning up the chaos after a potential measles contact was brought onto a ward with immunosuppressed patients.

          Anyone who doesn’t immunise their children, unless there is a very good reason not to, needs a bloody good kick up the arse.

          Hadn’t heard the flouride one before ……….. there’s nowt as odd as folk.

    • seeker 5.3

      Sunday and Hilary Butler stated in the programme that she was not a scientist. I think she had collated much information on vaccines as well cases of nasty outcomes from vaccinations.
      My son had one such outcome as well as my friend whose child was permanently damaged from a whooping cough jab and recived damages(in the UK). Fortunately my doctor asked me if there had been any seizures in our family before he gave my son the whooping cough vaccine; there had and this meant it was not a good idea for my son to have it, as he too could become damaged. We were not warned about MMR though!!!!
      My heart went out to the lad who had been damaged by the whooping cough vaccine and his mother. He was a similar age to my son. Both had been beautiful healthy babies.
      I think he was right in saying that some people are able to take vaccinations some are not. Information should be given to parents about the pros and cons-especially the MMR, which I think is a bit too much for such young babies.

  6. Lanthanide 6

    Well driving to work this morning was an adventure. Never really driven in snow before, and this is pretty deep – about 10cm deep in most places with some drifts deeper. Had the car skid around a little and crunched into the curb where I couldn’t see it, but no major issues.

    Looking out my window I can see a line of trees just past the motorway, and then it’s completely grey-white beyond, can’t see the port hills at all. Seems like the world has shrunk.

    • Lanthanide 6.1

      Still snowing.

      • Lanthanide 6.1.1

        Just saw a plough go past on the motorway, must have been going about 70-80 and shoving a huge plume of snow out the side. Pretty impressive.

        • Lanthanide 6.1.1.1

          Very heavy snow now, can just barely see the motorway and a few ghostly silhouets of cars going past, many of them very very close together so if any of them stop they’ll get rear-ended. Idiots.

          • NickS 6.1.1.1.1

            How thick out your way? We managed 20cm on the lawn out in Shirley and the walk out to Stanmore Rd was fun (new tramping boots, Haix ftw!).

  7. Anne 7

    It seems John Key is at it again. He claims he did tell Phil Goff about the Israeli spy affair. Anyone who saw the TV clip of Goff last week would know he was not lying. Anyone who has ever known Phil Goff would be able to tell you he is not a liar.

    Is John Key a pathological liar in which case he should not be in the top job? Or is he attempting to divert attention from something else – eg. his very revealing initial response to the Norwegian massacre?

    • Anne 7.1

      Update: the above is what I heard on a Radio NZ item, but it appears not to be strictly correct.
      John Key has admitted he didn’t tell Phil Goff, but he claims “he understood the SIS director did..”.

      As the leader of the main opposition party it was the duty of someone to inform Goff. That it didn’t happen is a serious breach of protocol…

      • Treetop 7.1.1

        Key has been complacent in handling the situation with Goff being informed. Had Key seen Goff, Goff may of been able to advise on not leaving loose ends. Key has created loose ends for himself and the public need to have confidence in him when it comes to national security. Key is unable to dismiss the attempt of passport identity theft, he is unable to verify this as well.

        Look where being naive gets you (news of the world hacking) politicians, cops and editors/journalists) a lot of coverups will be uncovered. NZ is no different.

      • Pete George 7.1.2

        No protocol breach apparently – a memory breach by Goff.

        Goff was angry that Key claimed he was briefed on the investigation. After hearing Key’s remark, Goff contacted SIS director Warren Tucker for a ”please explain”.

        Tucker told him he had ”flicked the issue past him” during a regular meeting with Goff in March. The pair meet every eight weeks. Goff said he couldn’t recall the matter being discussed in the meeting, which occurred a week to a fortnight from the quakes.

        Goff said he was shown one of three documents about the investigation this morning, but wouldn’t discuss its contents.

        ”The head of the Security Intelligence Service said he flicked the issue past me and said there wasn’t much to it,” Goff said.

        ”He ‘didn’t dwell on it’, was his comments.

        ”If there had been anything of substance said to me I’m sure I would recollect it.”

        An apology from Goff to the SIS and to the PM will be issued in due course.
        (That’s just a guess).

        • Treetop 7.1.2.1

          More to be covered on this.

          The fact that Goff was involved in diplomacy regarding the 2004 passport scam would have set off alarm bells. The SIS director surely has some notes. I think the Key words here are Key, flicked past, and passport. Sorry but not good enough to flick past at a routine meeting, a sitting on the fence passport identity attempt. Loose ends only create a problem.

          • Pete George 7.1.2.1.1

            “Sorry but not good enough to flick past at a routine meeting”

            If Goff was interested in more detail I presume he could have asked for it. I expect politicians at his level get bombarded with a heap of information and it would be easy to not take it all fully on board.

            If at the time the SIS thought it minor and Goff thought it not worth dwelling on then it would normally have been forgotten and left at that. Goff wasn’t to know the issue would have been stoked by someone. But still, the mistake’s on him and so should be the apology.

            • Colonial Viper 7.1.2.1.1.1

              Glad Key apologised first.

            • Treetop 7.1.2.1.1.2

              The mistake is on the SIS director because it is the job of the SIS to prevent any future passport identity theft. Israel apologised after the 2004 passport identy theft and assured NZ that it would not happen again. Goff is not an SIS operative.

              • Tangled up in blue

                Goff insisted that he was not briefed. SIS director Warren Tucker corrected him saying in fact he did run it past him. Goff isn’t denying it further so yeah it looks apparent that he did made a mistake.

        • Anne 7.1.2.2

          No protocol breach apparently – a memory breach by Goff.

          If Goff had been properly informed of course he would remember it. Especially since he was closely involved with the 2004 passport scandal. Sounds to me like Mr Tucker might be on a damage control exercise. A flick past? Could that mean a momentary, semi-audible mumble designed (perhaps) to be misheard or ‘missed’ altogether?

          • Treetop 7.1.2.2.1

            Who trains SIS operatives?

          • insider 7.1.2.2.2

            Can you define what ‘properly informed’ is and your qualifications to judge? Even Goff admits he was told.

            • Colonial Viper 7.1.2.2.2.1

              Shit dude there are a thousand ways an official can slide information under the nose of an elected representative so that the official can say its been done, but the chances of the elected representative ever remembering any details at all are very slight.

              “Well we’re running out of time, those last couple of bullet points there, low priority items really. If anything else comes up on those we’ll brief you further. Right, next we have some properly important matters…”

        • hawk 7.1.2.3

          To PG:
          As it should be as Goffs comments implied that the SIS director had been lacking in his job and had not informed him.

          If Goff had of checked documents etc then he would have noticed that he had been informed. So this is a serious issue I feel as Goff has accused this man of failing in his role.

          Interesting that when Key makes a slight error by saying “if it was a terroist bombing” he gets heaps on this site. But when Goff makes a unfounded statement gets a oh well he cant of been told properly or a well he just forgot.

          But then it is expected on a site like this to experience that one eyed comment.

        • seeker 7.1.2.4

          @ Pete G.
          ”The head of the Security Intelligence Service said he flicked the issue past me and said there wasn’t much to it,” Goff said.

          ”He ‘didn’t dwell on it’, was his comments.

          “If there had been anything of substance said to me I’m sure I would recollect it.”

          This sounds like the head of SIS did not dwell on it , not Mr.Goff.
          I am appalled that the National Government should be so careless and lacking in respect as regards their obligation to inform the opposition about security matters.It also shows a lack of regard and respect to the citizens of this country in the matter of our security and safety that a matter of security should be “flicked” past the honourable leader of the opposition.
          Of course Phil Goff would remember anything said to him about such matters so I think ‘flick’ is short hand for ‘nothing was said’. Apart from the fact that Mr.Goff is highly intelligent he was a very competent Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade as well as Minister of Defence and would recollect if anything had been said as he was so used to dealing with such matters and would be attuned.
          Mr Goff is certainly up to the play in this situation; more than can be said for the usually underprepared and totally “out of the ball park so as to be nowhere near the play” John Keys.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.2

      Is John Key a pathological liar in which case he should not be in the top job?

      The fact that Jonkey is pathological liar was proven some time ago.

      Or is he attempting to divert attention from something else…

      More than likely.

  8. Tigger 8

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/07/its_the_putting_right_that_counts.html

    DPF running spin lines on Key’s ‘it was global terrorists which is why we’re in Afganisblad, yay NZ’ comment post the Norway tragedy.

    I’m so sick of this odious little slug.

    • logie97 8.1

      May I just say I am eternally grateful to those of you who endure visiting the sewers and reporting back for us. Of course it saves column inches by providing links to support your comments rather than quoting verbatim from their posts but I can take it from your signatures that you are well informed and that it is just more of the b/s that he pours out on Mora’s afternoons. I would prefer not to leave a trace on their respective sites so thank you all very much.

  9. jackal 9

    Tell me about it Tigger

    Jumping to Conclusions

    Speculating on things without enough information is a dangerous practice at the best of times. You run the risk of appearing the fool if that guess work is later shown to be incorrect.

    • McFlock 10.1

      Of course, Hone sucking up to Density Church is a major reason why we shouldn’t…

  10. The Voice of Reason 11

    Charlie Brooker on the stupidity of those who leapt to blame Muslim terrorism for the Norwegian attacks. He’s having a pop at the ‘experts’, but it applies nicely to our PM’s efforts.

  11. rosy 13

    Australian and Malaysian refugee deal . It’ll be interesting to see how it works.

    Malaysia and Australia agreed on Monday to swap refugees in a new strategy aimed at deterring asylum seekers from undertaking boat journeys to Australia.

    The deal will see Australia send 800 asylum seekers to Malaysia over the next four years in exchange for Australia resettling 4,000 registered refugees currently living in Malaysia.

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  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    4 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    4 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    5 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    6 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    6 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    7 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    7 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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