Open mike 28/11/2022

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1. Sanctuary 1

   28 November 2022 at 7:50 am

   Directly criticising the CCP is a minimum ten year jail sentence, and that includes "criticism" like saying, "Long the people!" instead of "Long live the Chinese Communist Party!”

   Xi is not likely to be happy at this eruption of independent thinking in the public sphere.
2. Visubversa 2

   28 November 2022 at 9:10 am

   I don't recall ever seeming Sunny Kaushall's concern for workers in Indian run businesses extend to addressing this type of exploitation.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/130547443/he-worked-70-hours-a-week-for-11-an-hour-for-five-years-his-boss-wouldnt-even-give-him-the-day-off-for-his-wedding
   • Sanctuary 2.1

     28 November 2022 at 10:06 am

     The sordid tale of the right-wing media pile on and politicisation of a murder are part of an onging appalling abuse of media power by, in particular, NZME in Auckland.

     Given the size and normalisation of the abuse of media power by NZME and other outlets, it isn't surprising only the scantest coverage has been accorded by our yellow journalists to the re-election of the Victorian Labor party led by Daniel Andrews. Let's face it – the centrist and right wing pundit class echo chamber have written off Labour, moving on to lobbying for advisor roles with National and mentally redecorating their new Beehive offices while NZME in particular has abandoned any pretence for journalistic ethics and blithely accepts blatent conflicts of interest, overt and covert influence-peddling and propaganda, all for the purpose of advancing rignt wing interests. Abuse of media power is baked into that organisations culture.

     But what Andrews re-election shows is the potentially the power of the MSM is waning. Victorians basically ignored the Murdoch press. That's two in a row in the eye for Murdoch – Albanese and now Andrews.

     What we've got now is a two tier media. On one hand, Ruby Tui can call the PM "Aunty" and still be enormously popular with the kids who happily sing "Tūtira Mai" with her. They revel in their cultural identity and shape a lot of their views from that identity. They watch Tik tok, and get their news from the coconet and other SM. On the other, you've got a traditional media that megaphones the concerns of a well off, globalised and largely white settler ruling class that seeths at co-governance, “Maorification”, is dismissive of different voices and whose relationship with the country is entirely transactional.

     I wonder how long it will be this leads to a bifurcation in political realities, where a bunch small dick Leo Malloy types when confronted with the cognitive dissonance of an election loss whenNewshub and the Herald and talkback told them everyone hates the governmentstart talking about stolen elections and the voter suppression?
   • Peter 2.2

     28 November 2022 at 10:11 am

     Matt McCarten over quite some time has made public cases where workers have been treated appallingly.

     Sunny Kaushall is very visible in the Sandringham tragedy. Whether he has been involved in incidents about employment, exploitation, slavery I don't know. Maybe he's a media darling in this case because the media need him for the way they are playing the situation.
     • Sanctuary 2.2.1

       28 November 2022 at 10:57 am

       The rightwing MSM like Sunny Kaushall because he panders to their racist preconceived prejudices about "Indians" and he allows them to present him as representative of a monolithic ethnicity, rather than NZ born Indians, Fijian born Indians, Muslim Indians, Hindu Indians, Sri Lankans, Sikhs, Tamils, Pakistanis, etc etc etc.

       A lot of what we hear from the likes of Gaurav Sharma and Sunny Kaushall is actually the voice of a specific group – high caste native born Indians with often very BJP inflected politics. Talk to FBIs for example and they’ll often have an active dislike of the high caste new immigrant Indians, who they (rightly) suspect as looking down on them. And don’t get a Tamil started on what they think of Indian nationalists….
     • Visubversa 2.2.2

       28 November 2022 at 12:31 pm

       He is certainly very visible in anything that benefits him personally or advances he political aspirations. He made a big drama about the CRL works in Albert St when they affected the business of the Shakespeare Tavern which he bought in full knowledge of the works that would be done. Now he has more foot traffic and wider footpaths outside his business which he has certainly taken advantage of by placing a number of outside tables on both corners and considerably increased his business capacity.

       He was complaining about diary robberies in 2017 under the Nats – calling them "soft on crime".

       The right wing media are lazy and hop off to him because he can be guaranteed to say exactly what they want.
       • logie97 2.2.2.1

         28 November 2022 at 1:26 pm

         We received an email petition from Kaushall via Change.org. How did he get our email address? The petition itself was full of political rhetoric.
3. Poission 3

   28 November 2022 at 11:29 am

   The silent champion waging a war on crypto ponzi schemes from NZ.

   The crypto ponzi scheme avenger,unmasked by the NYT as one of the few champions against Ponzi Crypto.NYT dedicates whole page to Danny.

   https://www.dehek.com/

   https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz/status/1596311030988431362
4. Incognito 4

   28 November 2022 at 11:34 am

   Some health staff and nurses will be happy, but it is hard to please all at the same time. However, it is an ongoing work in progress.

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/479620/health-staff-working-outside-of-hospitals-set-to-get-a-pay-increase

   https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-takes-action-pay-parity-healthcare-workers
5. Sanctuary 5

   28 November 2022 at 11:34 am

   An old man penned a rambling letter to the editor yesterday.
   • Incognito 5.1

     28 November 2022 at 11:35 am

     Can Stuff please open the comment section!
   • Tony Veitch 5.2

     28 November 2022 at 3:59 pm

     Well, I read it right through – and I haven't a clue what point(s) he was trying to make!

     All I can say, as a Mainlander, Auckland deserves him!
     • Anne 5.2.1

       28 November 2022 at 5:56 pm

       He's an ignorant redneck who suffers from the oft-quoted condition known as Dunning Kruger:

       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

       He's Auckland's version of Trump and the city deserves him.
6. Sacha 6

   28 November 2022 at 1:05 pm

   Regenerative farmer visits NZ https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-drink/130543813/how-groove-armadas-andy-cato-cashed-up-his-music-to-fund-a-farm
7. Ad 7

   28 November 2022 at 1:44 pm

   A big shoutout to the Chatham Islands iwi Ngāti Mutunga o Wharekauri for getting to Heads of Agreement on their Waitangi Treaty settlement.

   Chatham Islands iwi sign treaty settlement agreement | RNZ News

   Looking forward to great new tourism enterprises to come out of this, to make use of the new jet-capable runway.

   And of course a congratulations also to the team at Treaty Settlements, and most certainly to Prime Minister Ardern for being there for it.
   • Poission 7.1

     28 November 2022 at 1:57 pm

     Craigs new 737 arrives next month,Just reading the menu they had at the Den , minced and creamed paua, crayfish,duck,pickled weka,wild pork and kumara …..
   • Gosman 7.2

     28 November 2022 at 2:32 pm

     This is just rewarding genocide. Ngāti Mutunga should be forced to compensate Moriori.
     • Ad 7.2.1

       28 November 2022 at 4:20 pm

       Different cans of worms. This is the states' redress, not iwi-on-iwi.
       • Gosman 7.2.1.1

         28 November 2022 at 4:27 pm

         Ummm… Moriori are not an Iwi. They are an Imi.

         What ability do Moriori have to seek redress from Ngāti Mutunga for the genocide they committed?
8. RosieLee 8

   28 November 2022 at 4:24 pm

   I hope the dairy owners protesting at the murder of one of their workers are all paying their employees the correct rate, and that those workers are fully aware of their pay, visa and immigration rights.
   • Graeme 8.1

     28 November 2022 at 5:02 pm

     I'd like to know what the employer's instructions where regarding pursuing the offenders 100m down the road and trying to recover the till.

     I worked at a servo many years ago in the depth of a recession (amazing what you'll do to pay the mortgage) and that sort of thing was NOT part of the armed robbery manual. And what happened in Sandringham was the reason you didn't even think about it.

     If the poor bugger was doing what his employer expected him to do, then the employer should be in the dock on a manslaughter charge.
     • Visubversa 8.1.1

       28 November 2022 at 5:47 pm

       Bank workers have had that instruction loud and clear for decades. "Hand over the cash, do exactly what you are told, and don't even think of doing anything smart".

       In the meantime, the Banks have closed their unsafe agencies and branches, fitted cameras and silent alarms everywhere, have "bait money" with detectable chemicals all over it, and restricted entry to branches.
     • pat 8.1.2

       28 November 2022 at 7:04 pm

       it makes one wonder if the financial loss was going to be recouped from the worker….why else would you pursue an armed offender out of the store?
     • RosieLee 8.1.3

       28 November 2022 at 7:07 pm

       And maybe family ties complicated the issue.
     • joe90 8.1.4

       28 November 2022 at 7:33 pm

       If the poor bugger was doing what his employer expected him to do,

       Shorts on the till balance would've come out of his pocket.
     • bwaghorn 8.1.5

       28 November 2022 at 7:35 pm

       So did he get stabbed in the street , not in the store?
       • Graeme 8.1.5.1

         28 November 2022 at 8:33 pm

         https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/images-suspected-dairy-workers-killer-released

         "Our enquiries have established after the robbery, at around 8pm, the offender left the store with the cash register drawer and walked about 100m towards Duncan Avenue," Detective Inspector Scott Beard said.

         "He is seen on CCTV footage stopping at a household wheelie bin and placing the drawer inside," Beard said.

         "At this point the victim has approached him and an altercation has taken place, at which time the victim has received several stab wounds.
9. Mac1 9

   28 November 2022 at 6:14 pm

   National is not happy with Labour and the Greens for putting a 60% minimum on MPs voting out the protection against privatising water.

   Grey Power will be happy as we passed at the last national AGM a remit opposing the privatisation of water. I don't need to cite a reference. I was there.

   The opposition was minimal. National has the wrong end of this particular stick.

   I hope that all Grey Power members will thank Labour and the Greens for their endorsement of the necessity to retain the ownership of water in the people's hands.

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