it could reflect that some people with less than 150k but more than a lower amount dont think they need another $60 a week? I would agree with them.
Cunliffe didn’t have the courage to make it what it should have been… a payment to the households earning under 50% of median or thereabouts…. instead he didnt want to be seen to be cutting out the middle class… he’s still doing a josie pagani and flirting with the magical middle class. My household income is about 95k per year. Is he flirting with me? Cos it’s not working.
I am still voting greens after hearing the 3 state of the nation speeches.
I like Campbells interview that showed that not only would middle class NZ want the money, but they recognized interest rates were going up and they were for a second squeeze on their budgets. Though of course I will continue to support the Green party on the list.
JK, I wonder, is the Herald poll anything like the stuff.co.nz polls where where you can repeatedly click on the same option? That is, X amount of votes can be generated by the same person therefore making the poll a total sham, – (as if it was representative anyway!)
Rosie, better to wait for the next Roy Morgan, it’s not necessarily something to hang our coats on as totally correct but as the most frequent of polls will give us an indication within the ongoing trend which we should be able to see both the Labour and Green’s start to the election campaign…
Generally not the next Roy Morgan. You usually want the one that is about 5-6 weeks later to get the immediate effect.
The logic is that they will probably be mid-collecting now so the next poll will only partially reflect. It usually seems to take the NZ public a couple of weeks to actually process/read about/discuss political announcements and come to some considered judgement. Just consider that many only get around to considering opinion from commentators when it shows up in the weekend papers roundups. Then it takes two weeks to collect the canvassing.
Of course the hysterics of the right are busy trying to mould opinion right now in the astroturfing of Stuff. But ultimately that is really just preaching to the converted…. It is as pointless as snap polls on MSM websites.
Yep, the next few Roy Morgans will be interesting reading. All I’ll say for the moment is that in late 2007/early 2008 and in late 2010/early 2011, the Left Bloc was receiving 42% and 40% respectively (and they turned out to be relatively close elections – particularly, of course, 08). Currently, the Left’s averaging around 46% so things aren’t looking too bad (though I still remain slightly – very slightly – pessimistic).
It usually seems to take the NZ public a couple of weeks to actually process/read about/discuss political announcements and come to some considered judgement.
A couple of weeks? More like a couple of months sometimes.
Can someone help with the maths and its relationship to opinions expressed please?
Using a rough estimate of polling as a guide …
Nats 45 %
Lab 34 %
Green 12 %
NZF 4 %
Act 1 %
UF 0.5 %
Con 2 %
Mp 2 %
Others 1
(I understand that the likes of O’Reilly, Barnett, have just one vote each, just like the rest of us…)
so how is it that the Media sources comment from all and sundry on the Right for their views on things and very little from the left?
Now just looking at the above, I would have thought that on the figures of national representation, the likes of Dunne, Boscowan, Prebble, Hide, get a disproportionate amount of air time. For every 49 Right wing commentators, there should be 49 from the Left.
Read the daily blog? you’ve got 49 blowhards right there.
in the press, trotter, mccarten, armstrong (dave), one of the rotation of “academics” pushing a left wing cause. against, hooten, hide and one of the normal business type leaders pushing a right wing cause in the business pages.
pretty evenly balanced. Of course, you’ll hate political journos as they tend to offer balanced opinion and insight. which of course makes them closest right wingers to any right-thinking lefty.
You can’t lie to people if they don’t trust you. I leaving off watching his show until the election is called, then I won’t be played by his obvious right wing bias. I did however flip and catch 30s of it and it look real cheap.
Took my brother in law to David Cunliffe’s SON yesterday, he was really impressed and after voting Key in 2008 and 2011 will be switching to Labour 2014.
Bit simplistic chris73. Do you watch Parliament TV?
If they were docked for asinine, or childish behaviour I’d agree. 😉
But if you are in opposition, with little chance of changing outcomes – then perhaps the public gets more for their money if you are out working in the community – serving your constituents.
If they were docked properly for such behaviour I think we could run Parliament at a profit. It would end up with MPs having to pay us to go there, rather than us have to pay them.
The funny part is that, after penalties were levied, the highest paid MPs would be people like Bakshi, Prasad and Prosser. Can anyone, from memory, say the parties those three belong to?
Slater has been in love with Bananarama for quite a while now. He acts as an enthusiastic chairleader for the state torturers when they inflict anal pain on prisoners with metal rods. He is one very sick puppy and the fact that our PM’s office has direct links with him is a real worry. Farrar probably presages a change of approach on behalf of NAct.
The media ought to have to refer to The New Zealand Initiative as fka the business round table… interesting to see them gaining profile in election year. Been quiet since 2008.. must be slightly worried.
Burt you are on the wrong site but it won’t be hard to find anothet hayseed for National to replace the double dipping dipstock from dipton.
I see Nationals one of many broken promises to get rid of the Maori seats has been completely forgotten Butt Burt if that had happened both Clutha Southland and Invercargill electorates would be marginal andLabour repectfully as Many Maori live in both electorates .
So your side swipe at CV is Hollow.
This time if he stands I hope he prosecutes the National party neatherthals who made threats of violence against A very brave Tatloo.
Burt you don’t have the balls to come any where near Tats bravery.
Even on this site you wouldn’t reveal your real name you coward.
*Parents with an income of less than $150,000 a year will qualify for it for the first year of their newborn’s life.
*Will begin April 1, 2016.
*Parents on modest incomes (up to about $70,000) will qualify for payments for two more years, abating after $50,000.
*Expected to apply to about 59,000 0-1-year-olds and 63,000 1 to 2-year-olds.
*Working for Families tax credits will not be affected.
*Cost of the child payments is expected to be $528 million a year by 2017-18.
Babies born after 1 April 2016 will qualify for the $60/week payment. Not sure when they play to bring in the paid parental leave, but as it’s currently a members bill before the house, they’d have no excuses not to bring that through in their first 100 days.
Actually I think the hard cut-off date will be changed in practice, because otherwise we’ll see a bunch of mothers trying to ensure their babies are delivered after 1st of April, which is unseemly.
A better approach would just be to say any babies under the age of 1 after the 1st of April will receive the payments. That way if they’re born on March 31st they won’t be penalised.
The majority of election year policies are always set in the distant future, not sure what the alternative is, unless you look at National of course.
They do it a little differently. They present a long list of promises short on detail. Then once the election is over those policies get pushed further and further out, whilst policy they never campaigned on gets passed under urgency.
“..”Labour’s policy is not to decriminalise cannabis. That is not our intention.”
that was cunnliffe..
and this from turei makes me puke even more..
“..Greens Co-leader and former Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party member Metiria Turei said cannabis law reform wasn’t one of her party’s major priorities –
-“but it is our policy and we’re not ashamed of it”.
(she’s not fucken ‘ashamed’ of it..?
..wtf..!!!)
..how about you read the truth behind their bullshit..bad..
.and then see how ‘lolz’ you are then..?
..eh..?
..turei viewed the aotearoa legalise pot party as a political vehicle..for her personal ambitions
..tureu viewed the green party as a political vehicle..for her personal ambitions
..she is a carnivorous.dead-animal skin wearing/pot prohibitionist opportunist..
..she comes not within a fucken bulls’ roar of being ‘green’ in any aspect of her life..
..she is a cynical political-opportunist..
..who claims/ed to be ‘green’..
..because she sees that as the best ‘vehicle’ for her personal ambitions..
….slow down…
Phil…
The more votes that Go to the green party the better the chances of change…
Child Poverty is a bigger issue.
National will use cannibis reform to beat us.
Be patient phil take some medical marajuana.
The reforms in the US haven’t been all good .
Let’s get a change of govt first.
Lolz,Lolz, and Lolz again, tell me something Phillip, you have a Blog??? is that not part of your personal ambitions, are you then not trying to ‘use’ your readers as part of those personal ambitions,
You forgot McGillycuddy Serious in your little list of those you accuse Mets of ‘using’ to further Her personal ambitions,as well as the Beneficiaries Movement in which She was also heavily involved back in the early 1990’s,
The Green Party isn’t going to die in a ditch over the issue of decriminalization Phillip, and only a fool would expect them to make such an issue a ‘make or break issue’ in any coalition talks and as i expect the Green’s to be 12-15% of the vote in 2014 why the hell would they…
Wah fucking wah Phillip, grabbing any excuse in an attempt to justify your outlandish attack on Metiria Turei,
Funnily it is not until you are put under pressure that you start waving around the dead bodies of cancer victims in your pathetic, childish attacks,
What Phillip do you think would have happened to the ‘medical marijuana Bill,(if there is one), had it by Chance been pulled from the members ballot, remembering all the while that as part of the Opposition the only way to get such a Bill befor the Parliament is if it is drawn in what is essentially a lottery,
i would suggest in the current Parliament such a Bill even if with luck it had been drawn from the ballot would not have the numbers to pass it’s first reading…
so..arguing for cancer-suffers undergoing chemo..to be able to access the relief cannabis can provide..(a proven medical..as well as an observational..fact..)
..this is ‘cry-baby bullshit’..?
..arguing this..and the rationalities of the colorado-model..vs..prohibition..?
“..What Phillip do you think would have happened to the ‘medical marijuana Bill,(if there is one), had it by Chance been pulled from the members ballot, remembering all the while that as part of the Opposition the only way to get such a Bill befor the Parliament is if it is drawn in what is essentially a lottery,
i would suggest in the current Parliament such a Bill even if with luck it had been drawn from the ballot would not have the numbers to pass it’s first reading…”
i never said i thought it would have passed..
..but turei had the perfect platform to advance that cause..
..to argue for those cancer-patients..for medical-marijuana
..she could have got on all the media outlets..
..she could have pointed out the cruelties to cancer patients..
..she did absolutely fucken nothing..
..zero..zip..nada..
..not a murmer..
..and aside from anything else..
..what does she/the greens think the people who first voted them into office would want her/them to do..?
..and this current benign neglect from turei just emphasises the betrayal by the greens..
..of those pot-advocates who first got them over the line..
..without them/their votes..the green party as it exists would not be there..
..and this is/has been the gratitude they have received..
..ever since then the green party has just turned their backs on them..
..(and as an aside..as for yr serial ‘cry-baby’ ad homs..i have two words..
..one of them is ‘get’ and the other is ‘fucked!’..
This is New Zealand if Cancer patients want access to Cannabis they should have no trouble getting it.
but yes it should be legalised and people not criminalised for their drug of choice
Yes, they differ over leagalising cannabis. On that basis Steven Joyce, and therefore the media, have panicked that there are cracks in the Labour green block… Overlooking that they are
a. two separate parties;
b. no different to Winston wanting to buy back assets, Key doesn’t, Colin Craig wanting to hit his children and Key not wanting that’
it’s not labour policy but it is green policy. That labour will leave it to a conscience vote doesn’t change that it is not their policy to decriminalise, does it?
That is some P Ure bullshit right there! Yeh – I get that cannabis law reform is a priority for you, but that’s no reason to throw a tanty just because it is not as high priority to others. I’m not a fan of the term, but when you agitate for the opportunity to have specialist shops selling expensive luxury items, that truly is; boutique politics.
It’s not so much that I disagree with you about the desirability of cannabis regulation (& taxation)/ decriminalisation, it’s just how tightly you let Gower wind you up over this one.
As for cancer patients; there are Pharmac approved antiemetics, but their side-effect profile may not be well tolerated in all cases. The same could be said of anadamoid agents though. It’s been my experience that chemotherapy patients who want it are presently quite as able to source decent quality herb as any other member of society (anecdotal).
Mr Ure
I have cancer. I have no desire to smoke dope. If I did, it would not be hard to find.
It should be legalised because it’s used by the government and police to target a generation of our kids, mostly Maori, and lock them in Serco profit factories. It is also used to attack our rights in other ways.
As far as legalising dope goes, it should be done for a number of reasons, and the sooner the better. I personally think the medical marijuana issue is a bit of a diversion.
“the medical marijuana issue is a bit of a diversion.”
Actually I think it’s worse than a diversion.
The reason to legalise marijuana is that it’s no-one’s fucking business if you want to smoke marijuana. Simple as that.
The medical thing undermines that stance. The medical thing says that there are legitimate and illegitimate reasons to smoke marijuana and that the govt gets to decide which is which.
The NZ Herald article is just a repeat of the report on 3 News last night. I was at the Cunliffe press stand up after Cunliffe’s speech yesterday. I saw and (mostly) heard Gower asking question after question after question of Cunliffe about the Greens cannabis policy.
I couldn’t hear or see everything – media scrum in small space with sound of people leaving the hall in the background – but it just seemed to me to be Gower pushing the wedge/cracks line re Laour and the Greens.
What I did hear Cunliffe say: the Greens could put such policies on the negotiating table. Cunliffe said he wasn’t going to negotiate such things through the media. He said he wasn’t going to negotiate in advance about what was going to be negotiated when the negotiations start. He supports the Greens’ education policy that was announced the day before.
The only evidence they have of the cannabis policy resulting in “cracks” between Labour and the Greens is this, as quoted in the report, and taken from Cunliffe’s stand up yesterday (omitting most of Cunliffe’s replies):
“They can put on the table what they want to put on the table, but Labour’s policy is not to decriminalise cannabis,” says Mr Cunliffe.
The NZ Herald article just repeats the 3 News report without attribution. I guess they could claim they got the info from Cunliffe’s qu & a yesterday.
Watch for more wedge politics against the left, probably being led by Paddy Gower in future.
phillip you have been played by Gower, 3 News and the NZ Herald – it’s all a beat up, don’t get sucked into their wedge games, aimed at undermining a potential Labour-Greens alliance.
The bit from Turei saying that the cannabis policy was not high priority for them, seemed to follow from 3 News claiming the Greens were ashamed of the policy – if you watch the video of the 3 news report.
His comments here and in previous threads seem to confirm my observation that he has serious issues with strong women who have differing opinions and priorities to him
Resulting in a need to attack them personally rather than engage in discussion
Phil be a bit smarter around this. To say that they are for decriminalization now risks political suicide and pushing a certain chunk of voters away. After the election once in power it becomes much easier to look at. It could even happen quite early on so any backlash dies down after it is decriminalised or legalised (even better) and people see that the sky hasn’t fallen.
..and i wasn’t even going to mention pot this yr..(in that context..)
..but i have thought more on this..and personal-exposure to suffering cancer-patients..
..and realising how many more of them are out there here/now/today..
..made me realise this case must be argued long and hard..
..’go softly’ has been tried fr so long..
..and as for public opinion..?
..i say again..go look at that stuff comments-thread i mentioned earlier..
..90% of the comments support ending prohibition..
..haven’t you noticed the stunning-silences from the prohibitionists..?
..they are silent..because all of their arguments have been laughed out of the room..
..and a well-argued/coherent/humane policy-promise would find little opposition..
..and for now..i would be happy for a promise to extend access to plant-marijuana for those in medical-need..and already legally able to pay $1300 fucken dollars..to a fucken drug-company(!)..for..namely sativex..
..that is not a huge leap..and would face little/no opposition..
..what is so fucken hard about that..?
..and so i have decided ‘no silence’..
..and will argue this case..up ’till the election..and beyond..
..once again..we come back to those cancer-patients..here..now..today..
Do you mean they should bring in legalisation the same way they introduced Rogernomics, Polish? I’d rather they were more open about it. Cunliffe seems to have shut the door by saying it is Labour’s policy to not decriminalise, rather than it is not Labour’s policy to decriminalise. I’d decided not to vote Labour before that anyway, so it’s all a bit moot for me.
Well said Karol, as part of the Government i fully expect the Green Party will attempt to find the ‘numbers’ from across all parties in the Parliament for the decriminalization of Marijuana,
If such an exercise proves to have ‘the numbers’ then i would expect Legislation to ensue, as Lousia Wall showed in the present Parliament ‘contentious social issues’ when cross-party support is sought beforhand can become a simple matter of course…
“phillip you have been played by Gower, 3 News and the NZ Herald – it’s all a beat up, don’t get sucked into their wedge games, aimed at undermining a potential Labour-Greens alliance”.
Thanks for saying it karol. I was just about to trawl through yesterday’s statements re the dope and put it up for phillip.
(And phillip, I have to say, the attention you place on Metiria’s leather jacket is heading in the direction of OTT Comrade. Her choice of clothing has become a sticking point for you. It’s put me in mind of the Chills song despite the affection shown towards the item of clothing in that song)
karol, back to your talk, last night, about the Tova O Brien “cracks” piece: It has been interesting to watch how she has been moulded into a “political reporter”. I remember her many years ago as a host on Radio Active’s Breakfast show when she was literally been shown the ropes of news reading by the politically aware and well informed Liam Luff. She often had trouble with the pronunciation of international and local politicians and leaders, mainly because she had never heard of them. Fair play she was young, green and learning but it seemed there was no connection with the political and social history of her own country. Interesting the changes a few short years make……….
And yes, I do remember Gower’s “take” on Cunliffe becoming leader of the NZLP: the attention on the portrait on the wall and the residence in Herne Bay. Irrelevant stuff. Interesting point that Anne made about the Cunliffe portrait too and how it was a gift from an artist with an intellectual disability. Gower couldn’t have got it more wrong.
Bomber also made reference to Gower’s questions in his report on the conference – though I find Bradbury’s sentence structure a little confusing:
Cunliffe was relaxed, made off the cuff jokes during the speech and managed to persuasively bat away any questions the media scrum tried to put to him on issues he had little interest in focusing on. Patrick Gower kept asking questions about cannabis reform after it was brought up with the Greens, Cunliffe’s best line when asked by Paddy to offer an opinion on Obama saying alcohol was less harmful than cannabis was to say, “I think Obama has more experience on that than me’.
Headlines that Lie: Labour has no intention of backing cannabis policy, so says the headline in today’s Herald online in an obvious and pathetically useless attempt by that rag to create division where there is none,
David Cunliffe’s real stance on the decriminalization of cannabis if a Bill comes befor the Parliament seeking this, Labour will treat the matter as a conscience vote so it’s MP’s will be free to vote for or against decriminalization…
For f**ks sake, what is dishonest about Mets reported comments on decriminalization, the Green Party has a policy of doing just that,
In Government i fully expect the Green Party will put forward a Bill at some stage in the electoral cycle that would decriminalize cannabis,
Befor this occurs tho i would suggest that like Louisa Wall on the conscience vote which saw same sex marraige pass into law an attempt will be made to gain support from individual MP’s across the Parliament,
It is still a democracy Phillip,so we need a majority to make decriminalization happen and your abuse of Metiria Turei is childish and unhelpful…
.,phil it took along time for gay rights to become mainstream.
A change of govt is the best way to advance the cause.
Most university educated MPs will have tried and regularly used marajuana while at University.
I worked on student flats for 15 years less than 25% of those flats were marajuana free ,those students are Now our leaders National labour MPs.
I reckon marijuana decriminalisation IS mainstream. Pollies are always conservatives on these matters though, as the 30% (?) or so who remain against it are a very powerful and reliable voting block.
phillip ure
What’s the matter? Got a fish finger stuck in your throat and now you’re all scratchy and bitey?
Where is the phillip u of yore with an overview who highlights the important factors in the debate?
Well phillip u you make a strong case. Just make sure that you always state what you are talking about – it doesn’t confuse people (me) then. If you don’t rant against Labour or politicians in general and just press for positive moves for the good reasons you state then you’re words will hit the target, they must. Which I agreewith and lots do, is one for aiming at.
Anyone else this morning feeling warm, comforted, even dare I say it loved by the sight of a committed, intelligent, slightly emotional, vulnerable even, tempered to a finely honed sense of deep and historically-proven values by the insidious forces of satanic personal attack who looks poised to offer a stark contrast to the mammon-based PR-focused plastic and shallow moneychanger front for oppression and greed and usher in the end of the era of middling, muddling, systemic passive-aggressive cruel and abusive torture of the most innocent and already-downtrodden victims and any individual who dares to propose supporting them? Good-oh, same here.
You mean a damn good double in the speeches of both David Cunliffe and Metiria Turei on Monday and Sunday,
Definitely!!! two big steps in the right direction and while i might have a moan occasionally about how far up into th middle class these programs are targeted i am eyes open enough to realize that to implement such that middle class has to be taken into the fold to gain electoral support…
I can see how the “middle class welfare” meme might stick in the craw. Got to resist those divide & rule tactics. Universality would be better, but until we see the messes that NACT have swept under the rug while they’ve had charge of the account books, its best not to commit too far as yet.
Parsupial, +1, totally agree, and where there is a perceived or real division in policy ‘we all’ should try and set aside our ‘tribal affiliations’ in favor of discussing the ways and means of finding a compromise solution that both parties members and supporters can accept…
Although I guess this is preaching to the converted, this is a nice little summary of research that shows the trickledown approach to boosting wealth for all is a failed theory. The problem is of course overturning the theory, it’s so ingrained in the general population.
The trickle-down approach has been bad economics. Not only has it failed to deliver on its own terms but it has actively damaged the health of our economy, society and political system. It has supported growing inequality which, rather than boosting economic performance, has deflated it. The UK grew more when we were a more equal country during the post-war, pre-Thatcher era than after. It’s damaging social effects are also mounting. High levels of inequality are increasingly seen as harmful to individual well-being and health, social cohesion and social mobility.
Obama’s attack on trickle-down economics, echoed by Labour Leader Ed Miliband offered hope that our leaders are finally engaging in the possibility of dethroning this damaging philosophy but the recent response to a potential increase in income tax shows that the theory still festers. We must continue to counter an approach that has created a tide of inequality that lifts up the yachts while leaving the rest of us paddling harder. By pulling the rug out from under trickle-down economics other damaging myths can be exposed, such as the argument for high executive pay.
I’ve been thinking lately that we need a maximum income of about $100,000 per year with anything over that to be taxed at 100%.
Combined with a decent UBI this will correct the present massive inequality that’s tearing our society apart.
Considering that this policy would be implemented after banning all foreign ownership it shouldn’t be too hard to return community assets that have been sold off back to the community.
+1 mirvox.
All the corporate welfar Nactional has handed out in tax cits direct lump sums and tax cuts for the well off have only lead to increased poverty especially of those who can’t vote. Children.
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Just missed an item on National Radio must have been first up between 9:10 and 9:30 about outsourcing services to a Perth Company. I think the name of the company was Strike Trust or something similar.
Cannot find anything on RNZ about the item can anyone point me to what the item was about?
Thanks
It is an odd idea, where we contract in an Aussie company to find New Zealand jobs for people on a sickness or disability benefit, and if that person is still in the job a year later the Aussie company get paid $2500.
Hard to see how it works as a business model unless there is a massive chunk of the equation missing, and I strongly suspect there are hidden fees attached to this policy that have not been shared.
Has anyone got details on the company eg. name etc and why it is being run as a trust in NZ?
It is an odd idea, where we contract in an Aussie company to find New Zealand jobs for people on a sickness or disability benefit, and if that person is still in the job a year later the Aussie company get paid $2500.
‘the trust’ you mention is a NZ operation, that was interviewed, and apparently they chose not to apply for the programme as they do not believe there is a way to make it financially viable for them as they did not have a suitable employment network
Xox
Just heard Kathryn on RNZ discussing the privatisation of MSD for placing solo parents and mentally compromised people into work. For a large fee of course. This is another nail in the coffin of public service provision, just like jails etc. More corporate hand over. Despicable that RNZ doesn’t even question the injustice to our public service.
i think/fear that labour have had a rush of blood to the head..
..following the ‘success’ of their american-styling leadership campaign..
..and are planning to subject us to a year-long american-styling election campaign..?
..(shudder..!..)
..i think this whole speech/strategy was ham-fisted..(excuse the non-vegan metaphor..)
..all cunnliffe need to do yesterday..
..was not to release any detailed-policy..
..but to speak directly to the unease felt my many (both left..and nats with a heart..)..
..of/at our current poverty/inequality..
..all cunnliffe needed to do was to speak to those concerns..
..and to promise that a lab/grn govt will be focused on righting those inequities..
..that..and promising to clean up the waterways..
..would have been enough..
..when pressed for policy-detail..cunnliffe answers..
‘..this is all being worked on..everything is on the table..
..we have to rethink how we are running our society..clearly we have some serious problems..ansd a lab/grn govt etc etc..an uncaring key-govt. etc etc..
..and our overall plan will be released at the beginning of the election-campaign..’
…why didn’t cunnliffe just keep it simple like that..?
..why the (un-needed..and instantly attacked) policy-ejaculation..?
..and as for the cannabis issue..?
..all cunnliffe had to say is that ‘we are looking at fast-moving developments internationally..
..and will release a clear policy in that pre-election policy-release..
…why didn’t he leave that door open..?
..and as a p.s..could someone tell me why labour are unable to even think about..let alone countenance as a possibility..let alone argue..
..the logic/rationalities of the colorado-model..?
..and if doubting the public mood on this..go read the comments-thread on that stuff piece from the other day..(highlighted in general debate thread a few days ago..)
..a long comment-list..
..95% arguing for/demanding an end to prohibition..
Phillip, stop f**king lying, read the article i alluded to above in the Herald online, David Cunliffe has said that Labour as a party does not intend to decriminalize, BUT, if the issue comes befor the Parliament He will make it a matter of a conscience vote for Labour MP’s,
i have now heard David Cunliffe say exactly that on RadioNZ national, TV3news, and He has been quoted thus in various newspapers,
By the sound of you, you need a good puff on the ‘medicinal’…
“David Cunliffe has said that Labour as a party does not intend to decriminalize, BUT, if the issue comes befor the Parliament He will make it a matter of a conscience vote for Labour MP’s,”
Another smart move from Labour. Let the GP bring it up, but let Labour support it too without having to lead the way.
Maybe we should start keeping a list of the ways in which L and the GP are going to be in a mutually beneficial relationship.
“all Cunnliffe need to do yesterday was not to release any detailed-policy”
If he had done that Phillip, then all we would be hearing is how Labour has no policy ideas
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No offence Phillip, and if you want to tell me to f-off and mind my own business that is your right. But may I pass on some advice I have been given (and given more than once.)
Maybe some time away from the keyboard today would help the headspace. Get out in the sunshine and look for some of the good things that are still out there.
I know all too well that battling the ills of the world without taking a regular break now and again is unnecessarily destructive to objectivity. Less critical items can artificially inflate their importance. It becomes increasingly difficult to stay focused on the wider issues. In that environment, the human mind has a tendency to foment stress.
When looking for answers look to nature, find a quiet spot and think on the question most bothering you. I guarantee the answer is not sitting in the keyboard.
thanks Polish Pride,
on-line debate can get out of control at the best of times and with politics in particular it is such a simple thing to forget that people are at the other end. We need to look out for each other on-line as we do in real life. I recently took a big dose of my own advice (including a prolonged break from the FB) and must say I am glad I did. Reflection is an important part of any step forward
Have to say, i’m a little envious of the promised banquet, as I am sick of making my own food (The single people out there will understand. ) Enjoy the visit.
Not unsurprisingly serious questions are being raised about the new outsourced “mental health employment services” that MSD and WINZ have contracted out to various “service providers” like the Perth based ‘APM Workcare’, New Zealand based ‘Workwise’ and a few others.
Remember this story from 22 January from Simon Collins, in the ‘New Zealand Herald’, titled “Oz firm paid to find jobs for Kiwis”:
This morning Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ National had Sharon Wilson-Davis, CEO of the STRIVE Community Trust, and Sandra Kirikiri from the Ministry of Social Development (Director of Welfare Reform) answer some good questions on the risks, the feasibility and other matters. Here is the link to the available audio track:
Sharon Wilson-Davis was once also a member on the controversial ‘Welfare Working Group’, that Paula Bennett had hand-picked to discuss getting more persons (also those sick and disabled) into work, as part of fundamental, indeed radical to draconian welfare reforms, of which the last major ones have been implemented since July 2013. There is some info on Sharon (and her ‘Strive Community Trust’) here:
Here is also an older article in the New Zealand Herald from 11 March 2011, where she answers to strong criticism from Sue Bradford and others, that was directed at the ‘Welfare Working Group’ and their aims:
I listened to the interviews that Kathryn Ryan conducted a bit after 09 am today, 28 Jan. 2014, and I was getting even more worried after hearing Sharon admit what very serious risks there are running such an “experiment” with often very vulnerable persons, who may have all kinds of health conditions and issues, that has left them disabled and disadvantaged to compete with “fit” and “healthy” people. Sandra Kirikiri from MSD was apparently a bit short for answers and explanations, and she basically admitted, it is just a “trial”, and it needs to be seen, how it will work. The pressures seem to be on the service deliverers to get persons into jobs, and if they do not meet a high enough success rate, they will run a loss. That fear they must have, running their “businesses”, will simply mean, they will put pressures on the “clients” referred to them, which will put especially mentally ill in very dangerous situations, fearing losing their benefit and else, should they not accept any kind of “ordinary” job on the open marked, that is deemed “suitable” by WINZ case managers, and by the staff working for the providers.
I know that there is an OIA before MSD, asking for more info on all this, and it should be revealing yet more.
This is truly worrying, and MSD are conducting “experiments” with “clients” from high risk groups. Remember ATOS and the Department of Work and Pensions in the UK, I’d say. It is time to stop such risky “experiments”, before any person suffers serious consequences. But we will likely not hear about it, as the providers may not be covered by the Official Information Act.
Shame on this government, shame on Paula Bennett, I can only say!
This whole issue is ideologically driven. The trouble is we have to wait a generation or two before anyone will accept the proof that such acts are not working, but by then, such institutional changes are inground, and bloody hard to reverse.
Why are we paying overseas institutions to run New Zealand institutions? Bad enough when we hire overseas consultants to confirm what we already know. To me this is an appalling waste of money, and if what we suspect is true, an absurd treatment of humanity.
I still think Helen Clark’s dismantling of the mental health hospitals, whereby a lot of people were housed in collective units run by the DHB’s has not been entirely successful. Yes for some living out in the community has been a success, but now we are about to see the supports kicked out from under them.
@Xtasy and philj….agreed privatising services to the most vulnerable is not the way to go…it just means the NACT Bankster Govt ….. of Key and Joyce and pawn poodle Paula Bennett …..is less acountable to the most vulnerable New Zealanders…while screwing them …It is despicable!
…… In the meantime bankster trader ‘custodians’ of New Zealand cream off what they can by selling State Assets and building multi billion dollar privatised toll motorways which will benefit them, their Trust funds and their ‘Chosen’ Bankster overseas mates
1.) All NACT proposed super motorways should be AXED!( we dont need them and they will be an environmental sore)
2.) …the billions saved should be used by the New Zealand Labour /Green government to support the most vulnerable….. mentally and physically disabled and beneficiaries ( this is the Christian way! ….to look after the most vulnerable in society!)
3.) the money saved from the unwanted super motorways costing billions ….can then also be spent on upgrading NZ State free education to a very high quality …..free university education, free polytech education, free apprenticeships, free internships for NEW ZEALANDERS!
….lets look after New Zealanders instead of treating them like delinquents in their own country!!!!
4.).there should be no young New Zealander or any New Zealander left untrained and without meaningful work….this is the job of the NEW ZEALAND government and not the ‘Chosen’ Bankster private companies!!!( from overseas)
Let us ALL take back New Zealand for New Zealanders!
Interesting. The damned economy might pick up and there will be less unemployment which will bugger up the hitherto stable settings of our inflation! Am I on Planet Key I ask? And there is No Answer.
Staff shortage looming for employers
Updated at 7:12 am today The New Zealand economy has soaked up any spare capacity and will be moving into a period of excess demand this year, meaning it could get tougher for employers to get workers, an economist says.
The Bank of New Zealand-Business New Zealand Performance of Services Index (PSI), was up more than a point at 57.5 in December, compared with 56.4 in November. A reading about 50 indicates expansion.
During the past year, the PSI averaged 55.8, compared with 53.9 in 2012.
All five main sub-indices were in expansion last month, including new orders and business, activity and sales, and employment.
Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) economist Craig Ebert said the economy was picking up and becoming much more generalised. “It really tells us that growth is not just good, it’s getting quite strong and it’s going to get stronger,” Mr Ebert said.
“The issue we see ahead of us is how the economy is going to be able to cope with that in terms of supply.
“Overall I think there will be some pressure coming from the demand side of the economy which will start to lift some of those inflation measures over the next 12 to 24 months.”
The economy had soaked up any spare capacity it had during the past few years and if the growth indicators were correct, then the economy would be moving into period of excess demand as soon as this year.
That equated to rising inflation and, in turn, to capacity constraints, including in the labour market, Mr Ebert said.
“It may, for example, turn out that firms find it more difficult to secure staff.”
The property and business category of the index nudged up to 57.5 in December, from 57.4 in November, which the BNZ said showed little sign the property market had fallen into a hole since the Reserve Bank introduced lending restrictions.
The retail category hit 74.5 points which, although not adjusted for seasonal effects, was 13.5 points above December 2012.
Its obvious really, growth is good to a point…lets face it I stopped growing, as did you…if we kept growing the doors would not fit and we would crush the seats…or perhaps our size would have killed us. Once we had grown enough, well that was enough. Wish all the idiots out there whose answer to the economy is “growth” understood this, it cant go on for ever…(and in reality it has stopped except on bankers ledgers of imagined money).
Recovery???? Dont you mean the blip in the graph that makes the short term appear better (as opposed to the constant “real” decline for the last 30 years).
no why should he talk to Patrick Gower and take this doggie’s shit? ….after all David Cunliffe is the next 2014 leader of New Zealand!……..eat your heart out Patrick Gower!
he loved it when they listened to kiwipower or whatever the fuck it was called. No real for it though. looks like the markets over the last 30 yrs have delivered lower than cost power prices.
why wouldn’t he interact with journalists unless he’s worried they’ll see the pitfalls of this rubbish policy?
1. It was a standup in the hall outside the Caucus room.
2. Cunliffe spent 9 minutes answering questions on the scheme.
3. He has a caucus meeting to go to.
4. He left politely and said he had to go to the meeting.
I would expect this sort of spin from a RWNJ but not a reporter.
Gower is probably sore about the response that Cunliffe gave him last night that made it to air on TV3 (don’t usually watch that crappy 3news – it is full of bias – but wanted to see the framing).
A loaded question was posed by Gower about poor people spending the $60 on tobacco & alcohol.
Response from Cunliffe [not verbatim but can be checked on the TV3 Website] – ‘People wouldn’t want me in their houses telling them what to spend their money on and you [Gower] would be the first to call us a ‘Nanny State’ if we did’
I was chuckling about that for the rest of the evening.
The response was spot on – quick and appropriate
Cunliffe ‘can’t think on his feet’ is nonsense – and don’t all you right-wingers know it.
Ha! Well the same comments as above applies. If his tweet was about yesterday, then most of the time Gower kept asking questions about cannabis. He seemed more interested in that than asking questions about the Best Start policy.
Edit: Actually – it’s confusing. In Gower’s twitter stream, it says the tweet was made 3 hours ago. If you roll over the 3 hours, it says 27 Jan 1.37pm
Edit#2: that 27 Jan time is US Pacific Time. Checked it re one of my retweets to @patrickgowernz within the last couple of hours.
He did not ‘just walk off’ He explained quite clearly that he had a caucus meeting and he had to leave.
Sorry to spoil the great story you were trying to concoct.
David Cunliffe has just walked off on a press conference refusing to answer questions about the baby bonus
Gower is trying to be Ace Cub reporter. And there’s a battle of wills going on between him and Cunliffe. Yesterday, Gower dominated a lot of the question time, with mainly only Corrin Dann getting a question in.
If you look at the video of today’s standup, Gower keeps trying to ask questions, but Cunliffe ignores him and takes questions from others. At one point, Cunliffe turns away from Gower. As a teacher I’d pretty much do the same if someone in the class kept trying to dominate the discussion. The rest of the journos are really polite and let other journos ask some questions, but Gower was always trying to be in there hogging the questions.
Yesterday, as soon as the speech was over, before Cunliffe had left the front of the hall, Gower was up the front of the hall in front of the camera, with the camera lights on him. For Gower, it’s always “Me, Me, pick Me”.
Gower will probably become increasingly desperate as Cunliffe’s fortunes rise. After Gower’s failed attempt to push Cunliffe from Labour leadership contention, he must now be worried about his future career.
If his career is his main focus, Gower would be better trying to be a really good journalist, rather than a faux-based jonolist.
The baby bonus I think was a Muldoon term for something Labour instigated to help parents.
Why would Cunliffe play to the plastic jonolists second life games?
Bob Jones has been saying that sort of stuff for years. He once said he’d rather hire someone with a history degree than an MBA, on the basis that they would have a wider view of the world. In those days he was attacking economics, before Randian repeaters took over the faculties. Now he’s attacking scientists, in line with every other fool who doesn’t want to be responsible for global warming. All the while, he’s never stopped attacking workers, women, Maori,……..
BM wipe your bum.
and who saw Steven Joyce on the teevee last night. The look on his dial shows that he knows the game is up.
Byeeee to you and your crowd a.s.a.p.
Bob Jones?? daughter was on the Dole for years she was staying in some run down flat in Dunedin she was suffering from depression very understanable.
Bob Jones would come and visit her in disguise so no one would recognise him.
They give themselves the right to delve into the lives of others, the comfortably off that is. Actually I believe many of the c-o have quite serious mental problems, brought on by feelings of inferiority because of the high demands for achievement and inter-sibling rivalry they experience.
Graeme Aitken, Dean of Education has some very helpful cautions about the Government plan to pay millions for teacher Leadership.
“Focus on social inequality will aid teachers
The education changes announced last week are welcome. They acknowledge teacher professionalism and their ability to lead change. They encourage networking and collaboration within and between schools. They offer attractive career prospects that have the potential to significantly raise the status of teachers and teaching.
They come, however, with some words of caution.
The Prime Minister commented on the “mountain of evidence” that the quality of teaching is “the biggest influence on kids’ achievement”. That is certainly so if we only consider in-school influences but the mountains are more like foothills when set against the Everest of research that shows that socio-economic status is the strongest predictor of achievement.
These changes will have limited impact if they are not accompanied by bold initiatives to address social inequality and poverty.”
Cameron Slater’s latest piece of vindictive nastiness has Greymouth in an uproar. This family has lost four sons (including one killed at Pike River) and they don’t need this shit. Judd’s Mum is after Slater and I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes/
Cameron Slater has just written himself a never-ending debt of horror from the people of the west coast.
This is the second last time I will ever have anything to do with anything about the cunt. Probably just as well draft post was deleted. Worst person alive in NZ.
Tui Bromley seems to have done her job well – making sure that Slater’s reference to Helen Clark was shown up for the lie it was: “The ‘feral West Coasters’ label has been around since 2000, when former Prime Minister Helen Clark was speaking on National Radio at the height of the native timber logging debate, but her comments were taken out of context.
A transcript of the sentence in question shows that Ms Clark actually said: ‘Attitudes of some on the West Coast could be fairly feral’.”
The Greymouth Star is a very enjoyable read and Tui Bromley an entertaining journo. It is highly informative (more so than msm shit) and it has a history relating to this website too believe it or not. Pretty much every single person on the coast reads the local rags ahead of anything mainstream.
Imagine getting an entire region of 30,000 people calling for your blood.
He has received several death threats. What a surprise. What a fool. How ignorant he is. Nothing would surprise me from this point in relation to this issue. Keep it on your radar folks.
That’s the brilliance of the Right Wing leadership. Getting beneficiaries and those on the minimum wage to actually vote for them. The Left can barely do that some days.
The only thing that surprises me is that the Disqus comment service (according to one email that is what getting attacked) doesn’t handle DOS or DDOS attacks. It could be that it is his site as that seems like a more obvious single point of failure.
That he is getting attacked doesn’t surprise me at all.
hang on – who brought in the internet censorship law, where ISPs monitor automatically web traffic and send warning notices? And you still think solidly banning a website because of unpaid tax is laughably impossible?
I think clark overextended himself, and let gower’s crowd do a “funny” editorial on a labour mp (see karol above), but only a little bit.
Seems reasonable. If a company in NZ doesn’t pay it’s taxes it gets shutdown, usually via receivership but the how really isn’t the issue.
What Labour should be doing is saying that they’re going to re-write the tax laws from the ground up so that companies, especially multi-nationals, can’t dodge the taxes that they’re supposed to be paying.
Polish, qualify the view that Socialism is enslavement, if socialism frees someone from poverty using any means then it is hardly enslavement,
It is in fact Capitalism in it’s starkest form that is both inhuman and enslavement, look at the US at the moment, millions of unemployment benefits cancelled and no jobs, that’s the inhuman enslavement of people into total poverty in a land of plenty…
Under Socialism is the goal of the government low unemployment.
Are those who earn well faced with a higher tax to help support those less fortunate.
Is the less fortunate man given enough to live what someone else has determined to be a dignified life?
Does this man have dreams and aspirations that he perhaps cannot afford?
Is his best chance at having them to one day find a job and earn enough so that he can make them come true?
Is the generally accepted life in socialism Get an education, get a job, work until you are 65, then retire?
That is enslavement and is not a system designed to enable man to be happy
It is a system that man essentially has to continuously work for in order to survive. Or has to be reliant on the taxes of others given to him by the state
If the goal of unions was to lobby govt to enact policy to have the goal of the govt to steer society on a course that made human happiness and maximising time spent with friends and family the aim of society. What if the goal of unions was to free people from having to work.
you can earn enough to essentially break free of the enslavement of working under capitalism. It is harder to break free under socialism. The inhumanity of capitalism is in that whilst people can break free, others suffer terribly.
You think a man is free because socialism has taken him out of poverty…….?
I guess it depends on your definition of enslavement.
I watched David Cunliffe’s speech, then switched over to watch the Grammy’s, because of Lorde. She did well. But that pales when I see Pete died yesterday. As you say karol, a life well lived.
Him and Woody laid down the tracks which everyone followed. Thanks joe90, and Te Reo Putake.
Unsurprisingly his site is down so here’s the cache of Pete Seeger’s Statement to the Court prior to his 1961 sentencing for contempt of Congress.
“Thank you, your honor. After hearing myself talked about, pro and con, for three days, I am grateful for the chance to say a few unrestricted words.
First, I should like to thank my lawyer for his masterly presentation of my defense. He has worked over many long weeks and months, knowing that it is beyond my power to pay him adequately for his work. I believe that he, and great legal minds like Justice Hugo Black and Dr. Alexander Meiklejohn, have explained far better than I can why they believe the First Amendment gives an American citizen the right to refuse to speak upon occasion.
Secondly, I should like to state before this court, much as I did before Congressman Walter’s committee, my conviction that I have never in my life said, or supported, or sung anything in any way subversive of my country. Congressman Walter stated that he was investigating a conspiracy. I stated under oath that I had never done anything conspiratorial. If he doubted my word, why didn’t he even question it? Why didn’t he have me indicted for perjury? Because, I believe, even he knew that I was speaking the truth.
Some of my ancestors were religious dissenters who came to America over 300 years ago. Others were abolitionists in New England of the 1840’s and 50’s. I believe that in choosing my present course I do no dishonor to them, or to those who may come after me.
I am 42 years old, and count myself a very lucky man. I have a wife and three healthy children, and we live in a house we built with our own hands, on the banks of the beautiful Hudson River. For twenty years I have been singing folksongs of America and other lands to people everywhere. I am proud that I never refused to sing to any group of people because I might disagree with some of the ideas of some of the people listening to me. I have sung for rich and poor, for Americans of every possible political and religious opinion and persuasion, of every race, color, and creed.
The House committee wished to pillory me because it didn’t like some few of the many thousands of places I have sung for. Now it so happens that the specific song whose title was mentioned in this trial “Wasn’t That A Time” is one of my favorites. The song is apropos to this case. I wonder if I might have your permission to sing it here before I close?”
(At this point the judge refused to hear Pete Seeger sing.)
“Well, perhaps you will hear it some other time. A good song can only do good, and I am proud of the songs I have sung. I hope to be able to continue singing these songs for all who want to listen, Republicans, Democrats, and independents. Do I have the right to sing these songs? Do I have the right to sing them anywhere?”
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Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
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TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers last night features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s release of its first Emissions Reduction Plan;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor and special guest Dr Karin von ...
Open access notablesImproving global temperature datasets to better account for non-uniform warming, Calvert, Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society:To better account for spatial non-uniform trends in warming, a new GITD [global instrumental temperature dataset] was created that used maximum likelihood estimation (MLE) to combine the land surface ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
Te Rūnanga Nui o Ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori invites the current government to work in partnership with them to develop a pathway forward, including the development of a parallel pathway and meaningful policy and strategy for Kura Kaupapa Māori ...
If you haven’t started watching yet, Tara Ward begs you to reconsider. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. In the world of New Zealand reality television, we have many gems in our crown. There’s the delicious second season of the Celebrity Treasure ...
A new poem by Fiona Kidman. The clothes of the dead I did not keep my mother’s furry red beret for long nor the stringy scarves that adorned the necks of my aunts, although I have kept tag ends of gold, the rings and trinkets they wore, the brooches no ...
The government’s announcement that it will re-open the foreshore and seabed controversy by changing the rules on recognising centuries-old Māori customary title for a third time goes against the rule of law and New Zealand values,” Mr Tipa says. ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Lioness by Emily Perkins (Bloomsbury, $25) Roarrrr! Perkins’ brilliant, award-winning, Marian-Keyes anointed, darkly funny, long ...
The 2004 Act vested ownership of the foreshore and seabed in the Crown, extinguishing any Māori claims to ownership and causing widespread outrage and protests among Māori communities. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Antje Deckert, Associate Professor (Criminology), Auckland University of Technology Getty Images Despite the connection between institutional harm and gang membership made clear in this week’s mammoth royal commission abuse-in care report, the government seems unlikely to soften its “get tough on ...
From Lewis Clareburt in the swimming to the start of the rowing – the first seven days of Paris 2024 promise to be big for New Zealand. There are few events that bring the country together quite like an Olympic Games. Nothing quite matches the excitement of getting up in ...
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The Herald’s poll on David Cunliffe’s speech, and Best Start, is showing big numbers opposing it – as is usual with these Nat trolls –
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192808
That says something about the political views of Herald readers, and little else.
it could reflect that some people with less than 150k but more than a lower amount dont think they need another $60 a week? I would agree with them.
Cunliffe didn’t have the courage to make it what it should have been… a payment to the households earning under 50% of median or thereabouts…. instead he didnt want to be seen to be cutting out the middle class… he’s still doing a josie pagani and flirting with the magical middle class. My household income is about 95k per year. Is he flirting with me? Cos it’s not working.
I am still voting greens after hearing the 3 state of the nation speeches.
I like Campbells interview that showed that not only would middle class NZ want the money, but they recognized interest rates were going up and they were for a second squeeze on their budgets. Though of course I will continue to support the Green party on the list.
JK, I wonder, is the Herald poll anything like the stuff.co.nz polls where where you can repeatedly click on the same option? That is, X amount of votes can be generated by the same person therefore making the poll a total sham, – (as if it was representative anyway!)
Rosie, better to wait for the next Roy Morgan, it’s not necessarily something to hang our coats on as totally correct but as the most frequent of polls will give us an indication within the ongoing trend which we should be able to see both the Labour and Green’s start to the election campaign…
Oh absolutely bad12. Really, I ignore all online msm “polls”, especially the stuffed one due to the issue mentioned.
Generally not the next Roy Morgan. You usually want the one that is about 5-6 weeks later to get the immediate effect.
The logic is that they will probably be mid-collecting now so the next poll will only partially reflect. It usually seems to take the NZ public a couple of weeks to actually process/read about/discuss political announcements and come to some considered judgement. Just consider that many only get around to considering opinion from commentators when it shows up in the weekend papers roundups. Then it takes two weeks to collect the canvassing.
Of course the hysterics of the right are busy trying to mould opinion right now in the astroturfing of Stuff. But ultimately that is really just preaching to the converted…. It is as pointless as snap polls on MSM websites.
Yep, the next few Roy Morgans will be interesting reading. All I’ll say for the moment is that in late 2007/early 2008 and in late 2010/early 2011, the Left Bloc was receiving 42% and 40% respectively (and they turned out to be relatively close elections – particularly, of course, 08). Currently, the Left’s averaging around 46% so things aren’t looking too bad (though I still remain slightly – very slightly – pessimistic).
A couple of weeks? More like a couple of months sometimes.
That would be right. Perhaps I should have said “the minimum time” is 5-6 weeks
Rosie – No. I’ve tried that, and I get a message flash up to say I’ve voted
Lprent: Interesting, noted.
JK: Ok, comes back to your original point then – the nat trolls out in force!
Can someone help with the maths and its relationship to opinions expressed please?
Using a rough estimate of polling as a guide …
Nats 45 %
Lab 34 %
Green 12 %
NZF 4 %
Act 1 %
UF 0.5 %
Con 2 %
Mp 2 %
Others 1
(I understand that the likes of O’Reilly, Barnett, have just one vote each, just like the rest of us…)
so how is it that the Media sources comment from all and sundry on the Right for their views on things and very little from the left?
Now just looking at the above, I would have thought that on the figures of national representation, the likes of Dunne, Boscowan, Prebble, Hide, get a disproportionate amount of air time. For every 49 Right wing commentators, there should be 49 from the Left.
Just saying
Read the daily blog? you’ve got 49 blowhards right there.
in the press, trotter, mccarten, armstrong (dave), one of the rotation of “academics” pushing a left wing cause. against, hooten, hide and one of the normal business type leaders pushing a right wing cause in the business pages.
pretty evenly balanced. Of course, you’ll hate political journos as they tend to offer balanced opinion and insight. which of course makes them closest right wingers to any right-thinking lefty.
… and the bulletins on radio?
Try again
No they don’t, they offer RWNJ opinion and whinging.
Surprised at Paul Henry show last night Henry gave Key a Hard time about going into coalition with winston Peters.
He was pretty fair with Cinliffe.
That is surprising. Might have to have a look.
Nah tricledown Henry may as well have sucked him off on live tv.
His first question to his old mate the PM was to ask him whether he agreed that we should all be grateful to have a PM who is so rich and awesome.
That’s why he’s been bought back for election year and that’s the job he’s doing.
Surprised at Paul Henry show last night Henry gave Key a Hard time about going into coalition with winston Peters.
He was pretty fair with Cinliffe.
You can’t lie to people if they don’t trust you. I leaving off watching his show until the election is called, then I won’t be played by his obvious right wing bias. I did however flip and catch 30s of it and it look real cheap.
Took my brother in law to David Cunliffe’s SON yesterday, he was really impressed and after voting Key in 2008 and 2011 will be switching to Labour 2014.
Great work Saarbo!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9655173/MPs-attendance-records-revealed
– Good, though I’d dock them more then 0.2%
Bit simplistic chris73. Do you watch Parliament TV?
If they were docked for asinine, or childish behaviour I’d agree. 😉
But if you are in opposition, with little chance of changing outcomes – then perhaps the public gets more for their money if you are out working in the community – serving your constituents.
If they were docked properly for such behaviour I think we could run Parliament at a profit. It would end up with MPs having to pay us to go there, rather than us have to pay them.
The funny part is that, after penalties were levied, the highest paid MPs would be people like Bakshi, Prasad and Prosser. Can anyone, from memory, say the parties those three belong to?
one for john key..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I&NR=1
phillip ure..
Looks like National Party bloggers David Farrar and Cameron Slater have got a new favourite dictator… http://readingthemaps.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/from-hoxha-to-bainimarama.html
What does this say about their commitment to democracy in NZ?
The RWNJs have never supported democracy in NZ. They just say that they do so that the country will be mislead about their intentions.
Correct. But the public accepts it because National gets stuff done, without endless rounds of consultation and navel gazing.
Slater has been in love with Bananarama for quite a while now. He acts as an enthusiastic chairleader for the state torturers when they inflict anal pain on prisoners with metal rods. He is one very sick puppy and the fact that our PM’s office has direct links with him is a real worry. Farrar probably presages a change of approach on behalf of NAct.
The media ought to have to refer to The New Zealand Initiative as fka the business round table… interesting to see them gaining profile in election year. Been quiet since 2008.. must be slightly worried.
Have you selected your candidate for Southland – yeah, nah.
[Burt TS is not selecting candidates for anywhere, nor is it an entity that you can have discussions with – MS]
Burt you are on the wrong site but it won’t be hard to find anothet hayseed for National to replace the double dipping dipstock from dipton.
I see Nationals one of many broken promises to get rid of the Maori seats has been completely forgotten Butt Burt if that had happened both Clutha Southland and Invercargill electorates would be marginal andLabour repectfully as Many Maori live in both electorates .
So your side swipe at CV is Hollow.
This time if he stands I hope he prosecutes the National party neatherthals who made threats of violence against A very brave Tatloo.
Burt you don’t have the balls to come any where near Tats bravery.
Even on this site you wouldn’t reveal your real name you coward.
One is honoured.
is it correct that this new measure from labour will not kick in until 2018..?
..so..in their second term..?
..have i got that right..?
phillip ure..
Labour’s Best Start
*Parents with an income of less than $150,000 a year will qualify for it for the first year of their newborn’s life.
*Will begin April 1, 2016.
*Parents on modest incomes (up to about $70,000) will qualify for payments for two more years, abating after $50,000.
*Expected to apply to about 59,000 0-1-year-olds and 63,000 1 to 2-year-olds.
*Working for Families tax credits will not be affected.
*Cost of the child payments is expected to be $528 million a year by 2017-18.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192808
No.
Babies born after 1 April 2016 will qualify for the $60/week payment. Not sure when they play to bring in the paid parental leave, but as it’s currently a members bill before the house, they’d have no excuses not to bring that through in their first 100 days.
Actually I think the hard cut-off date will be changed in practice, because otherwise we’ll see a bunch of mothers trying to ensure their babies are delivered after 1st of April, which is unseemly.
A better approach would just be to say any babies under the age of 1 after the 1st of April will receive the payments. That way if they’re born on March 31st they won’t be penalised.
Well spotted. Its not gonna happen is it! Ithink we can call this policy an advertising slogan more than something more concrete.
The majority of election year policies are always set in the distant future, not sure what the alternative is, unless you look at National of course.
They do it a little differently. They present a long list of promises short on detail. Then once the election is over those policies get pushed further and further out, whilst policy they never campaigned on gets passed under urgency.
remind me when the new top up for the top earning teacher/principals comes in?
is it correct that cunnliffe has vowed that there will be no marijuana law reform..
..under a cunnliffe-led labour govt..?
..have i got that right..?
..phillip ure..
Lolz Phillip, did you only read the headline???…
glad you’re ‘lolz’-ing..
..i’m fucken not..!
“..”Labour’s policy is not to decriminalise cannabis. That is not our intention.”
that was cunnliffe..
and this from turei makes me puke even more..
“..Greens Co-leader and former Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party member Metiria Turei said cannabis law reform wasn’t one of her party’s major priorities –
-“but it is our policy and we’re not ashamed of it”.
(she’s not fucken ‘ashamed’ of it..?
..wtf..!!!)
..how about you read the truth behind their bullshit..bad..
.and then see how ‘lolz’ you are then..?
..eh..?
..turei viewed the aotearoa legalise pot party as a political vehicle..for her personal ambitions
..tureu viewed the green party as a political vehicle..for her personal ambitions
..she is a carnivorous.dead-animal skin wearing/pot prohibitionist opportunist..
..she comes not within a fucken bulls’ roar of being ‘green’ in any aspect of her life..
..she is a cynical political-opportunist..
..who claims/ed to be ‘green’..
..because she sees that as the best ‘vehicle’ for her personal ambitions..
..end of story..!
phillip ure..
calm down mr ure, surely you can see the wave of decriminalisation sweeping places.
our turn will come sooner than you think I think
of course i can see sanity breaking out elsewhere..vto
..but not fucken here..
..just the same old same old bullshit..
..with the green brand particularly galling..
phillip ure..
….slow down…
Phil…
The more votes that Go to the green party the better the chances of change…
Child Poverty is a bigger issue.
National will use cannibis reform to beat us.
Be patient phil take some medical marajuana.
The reforms in the US haven’t been all good .
Let’s get a change of govt first.
Lolz,Lolz, and Lolz again, tell me something Phillip, you have a Blog??? is that not part of your personal ambitions, are you then not trying to ‘use’ your readers as part of those personal ambitions,
You forgot McGillycuddy Serious in your little list of those you accuse Mets of ‘using’ to further Her personal ambitions,as well as the Beneficiaries Movement in which She was also heavily involved back in the early 1990’s,
The Green Party isn’t going to die in a ditch over the issue of decriminalization Phillip, and only a fool would expect them to make such an issue a ‘make or break issue’ in any coalition talks and as i expect the Green’s to be 12-15% of the vote in 2014 why the hell would they…
good that you’ve clarified your stance..
..and that you are so fucken lolz/relaxed about cancer patients undergoing chemo..
..unable to access cannabis..?
..this isn’t about me wanting to sit down and smoke a fucken joint..
..i do that anyway..
.it is about the cruelties of denying proven relief to people undergoing a health-hell..
..(and personally..of me seeing people go thru that shit…and how much cannabis can help them..)
.still fucken serial-lolz-ing..?
..and it is tureis’ criminal neglect of that medical marijuana bill that was under her care..
..that says all you need to know about her..
..not a fucken word spoken for those cancer-sufferers..
..all now long-dead..
..phillip ure..
Wah fucking wah Phillip, grabbing any excuse in an attempt to justify your outlandish attack on Metiria Turei,
Funnily it is not until you are put under pressure that you start waving around the dead bodies of cancer victims in your pathetic, childish attacks,
What Phillip do you think would have happened to the ‘medical marijuana Bill,(if there is one), had it by Chance been pulled from the members ballot, remembering all the while that as part of the Opposition the only way to get such a Bill befor the Parliament is if it is drawn in what is essentially a lottery,
i would suggest in the current Parliament such a Bill even if with luck it had been drawn from the ballot would not have the numbers to pass it’s first reading…
and that none of them have the balls/intellect to argue the potent/cogent-case for legalising/regulating/taxing cannabis..?
..the best they can aspire to is the half-arsed/half-baked worst of both worlds..?
..where the state still pisses away vast troves of money playing-prohibition..
..leaves control of the pot-market still under gangs/crims..
..and ..to say ‘no!’ to the river of green money in the form of taxation..?
..have they not heard..?
..do they have no examples of this happening elsewhere..?
..basically..can’t they/you fucken see this…?
..am i shouting in a room full of fucken morons..?
..and you defend this shit..?
..phillip ure..
Wah wah wah Phillip, read carefully my comment above this latest of your cry baby bullshit,
The only person shouting moronically to an empty room is in fact you Phillip…
so..arguing for cancer-suffers undergoing chemo..to be able to access the relief cannabis can provide..(a proven medical..as well as an observational..fact..)
..this is ‘cry-baby bullshit’..?
..arguing this..and the rationalities of the colorado-model..vs..prohibition..?
..this is all ‘cry baby bullshit’…?
ok..guilty as charged..
..phillip ure..
Phillip, please carefully read again my comment made at 9.32am, the last couple of paragraphs in particular,
Then can you please stop being a moronic little cry baby…
i read yr last 2 paras..
“..What Phillip do you think would have happened to the ‘medical marijuana Bill,(if there is one), had it by Chance been pulled from the members ballot, remembering all the while that as part of the Opposition the only way to get such a Bill befor the Parliament is if it is drawn in what is essentially a lottery,
i would suggest in the current Parliament such a Bill even if with luck it had been drawn from the ballot would not have the numbers to pass it’s first reading…”
i never said i thought it would have passed..
..but turei had the perfect platform to advance that cause..
..to argue for those cancer-patients..for medical-marijuana
..she could have got on all the media outlets..
..she could have pointed out the cruelties to cancer patients..
..she did absolutely fucken nothing..
..zero..zip..nada..
..not a murmer..
..and aside from anything else..
..what does she/the greens think the people who first voted them into office would want her/them to do..?
..and this current benign neglect from turei just emphasises the betrayal by the greens..
..of those pot-advocates who first got them over the line..
..without them/their votes..the green party as it exists would not be there..
..and this is/has been the gratitude they have received..
..ever since then the green party has just turned their backs on them..
..(and as an aside..as for yr serial ‘cry-baby’ ad homs..i have two words..
..one of them is ‘get’ and the other is ‘fucked!’..
..mm-kay..?..)
..phillip ure..
This is New Zealand if Cancer patients want access to Cannabis they should have no trouble getting it.
but yes it should be legalised and people not criminalised for their drug of choice
Yes, they differ over leagalising cannabis. On that basis Steven Joyce, and therefore the media, have panicked that there are cracks in the Labour green block… Overlooking that they are
a. two separate parties;
b. no different to Winston wanting to buy back assets, Key doesn’t, Colin Craig wanting to hit his children and Key not wanting that’
factcheck:..they don’t differ at all.. tracey..
..phillip ure
it’s not labour policy but it is green policy. That labour will leave it to a conscience vote doesn’t change that it is not their policy to decriminalise, does it?
you can keep dancing on the heads of pins if you like..tracey..
..i can’t be bothered..with yr tired/cynical-semantics..
..phillip ure..
That is some P Ure bullshit right there! Yeh – I get that cannabis law reform is a priority for you, but that’s no reason to throw a tanty just because it is not as high priority to others. I’m not a fan of the term, but when you agitate for the opportunity to have specialist shops selling expensive luxury items, that truly is; boutique politics.
“..that truly is; boutique politics…”
no it’s not..it’s humane policy..
..it’s giving cancer patients access to relief..
..maybe not so urgent for you..
..more so for those current cancer-patients..
..needing that relief..
(and as for me..?..i already know where to get good quality pot..
..it is not my (selfish) needs i am arguing about/for..
..patients..here..now..today..vomiting from their latest chemo-dose..
..them..
..how/where does that hang on yr fucken priority-list..?
..phillip ure..
PU
It’s not so much that I disagree with you about the desirability of cannabis regulation (& taxation)/ decriminalisation, it’s just how tightly you let Gower wind you up over this one.
As for cancer patients; there are Pharmac approved antiemetics, but their side-effect profile may not be well tolerated in all cases. The same could be said of anadamoid agents though. It’s been my experience that chemotherapy patients who want it are presently quite as able to source decent quality herb as any other member of society (anecdotal).
Mr Ure
I have cancer. I have no desire to smoke dope. If I did, it would not be hard to find.
It should be legalised because it’s used by the government and police to target a generation of our kids, mostly Maori, and lock them in Serco profit factories. It is also used to attack our rights in other ways.
As far as legalising dope goes, it should be done for a number of reasons, and the sooner the better. I personally think the medical marijuana issue is a bit of a diversion.
“the medical marijuana issue is a bit of a diversion.”
Actually I think it’s worse than a diversion.
The reason to legalise marijuana is that it’s no-one’s fucking business if you want to smoke marijuana. Simple as that.
The medical thing undermines that stance. The medical thing says that there are legitimate and illegitimate reasons to smoke marijuana and that the govt gets to decide which is which.
Bollocks to that.
“The medical thing says that there are legitimate and illegitimate reasons to smoke marijuana and that the govt gets to decide which is which.”
Totally agree
The NZ Herald article is just a repeat of the report on 3 News last night. I was at the Cunliffe press stand up after Cunliffe’s speech yesterday. I saw and (mostly) heard Gower asking question after question after question of Cunliffe about the Greens cannabis policy.
I couldn’t hear or see everything – media scrum in small space with sound of people leaving the hall in the background – but it just seemed to me to be Gower pushing the wedge/cracks line re Laour and the Greens.
What I did hear Cunliffe say: the Greens could put such policies on the negotiating table. Cunliffe said he wasn’t going to negotiate such things through the media. He said he wasn’t going to negotiate in advance about what was going to be negotiated when the negotiations start. He supports the Greens’ education policy that was announced the day before.
On the basis of this qu and a, Tova O’Brien did a report on it in 3 News last night.
The only evidence they have of the cannabis policy resulting in “cracks” between Labour and the Greens is this, as quoted in the report, and taken from Cunliffe’s stand up yesterday (omitting most of Cunliffe’s replies):
The NZ Herald article just repeats the 3 News report without attribution. I guess they could claim they got the info from Cunliffe’s qu & a yesterday.
Watch for more wedge politics against the left, probably being led by Paddy Gower in future.
phillip you have been played by Gower, 3 News and the NZ Herald – it’s all a beat up, don’t get sucked into their wedge games, aimed at undermining a potential Labour-Greens alliance.
The bit from Turei saying that the cannabis policy was not high priority for them, seemed to follow from 3 News claiming the Greens were ashamed of the policy – if you watch the video of the 3 news report.
@ karol..what ‘crack’..?
..they have both agreed to go nowhere near the subject..
..as i said..what ‘crack’..?
..there is no ‘crack’ for gower to exploit..
..phillip ure..
Exactly. So why use the scurrilous reports resulting from Gower’s questions, as a stick to beat Turei and the Greens with?
His comments here and in previous threads seem to confirm my observation that he has serious issues with strong women who have differing opinions and priorities to him
Resulting in a need to attack them personally rather than engage in discussion
@ zorr…heh..!
..(cheers 4 the chuckle..eh..?..)
..and i don’t attack people..
..i attack stupid ideas/arguments..
..i praise good ideas/arguments..
..the gender of that stupid/smart person is entirely irrelevant..
..as for yrslf..?..as an example..?
..i have no idea of yr gender..
..but whichever cap fits..?
..eh..?
..’serious issues with strong women’..heh..!..
..phillip ure..
Phil be a bit smarter around this. To say that they are for decriminalization now risks political suicide and pushing a certain chunk of voters away. After the election once in power it becomes much easier to look at. It could even happen quite early on so any backlash dies down after it is decriminalised or legalised (even better) and people see that the sky hasn’t fallen.
@ polish pride..
..yes..i see yr arguments..
..and i wasn’t even going to mention pot this yr..(in that context..)
..but i have thought more on this..and personal-exposure to suffering cancer-patients..
..and realising how many more of them are out there here/now/today..
..made me realise this case must be argued long and hard..
..’go softly’ has been tried fr so long..
..and as for public opinion..?
..i say again..go look at that stuff comments-thread i mentioned earlier..
..90% of the comments support ending prohibition..
..haven’t you noticed the stunning-silences from the prohibitionists..?
..they are silent..because all of their arguments have been laughed out of the room..
..and a well-argued/coherent/humane policy-promise would find little opposition..
..and for now..i would be happy for a promise to extend access to plant-marijuana for those in medical-need..and already legally able to pay $1300 fucken dollars..to a fucken drug-company(!)..for..namely sativex..
..that is not a huge leap..and would face little/no opposition..
..what is so fucken hard about that..?
..and so i have decided ‘no silence’..
..and will argue this case..up ’till the election..and beyond..
..once again..we come back to those cancer-patients..here..now..today..
phillip ure..
Do you mean they should bring in legalisation the same way they introduced Rogernomics, Polish? I’d rather they were more open about it. Cunliffe seems to have shut the door by saying it is Labour’s policy to not decriminalise, rather than it is not Labour’s policy to decriminalise. I’d decided not to vote Labour before that anyway, so it’s all a bit moot for me.
Well said Karol, as part of the Government i fully expect the Green Party will attempt to find the ‘numbers’ from across all parties in the Parliament for the decriminalization of Marijuana,
If such an exercise proves to have ‘the numbers’ then i would expect Legislation to ensue, as Lousia Wall showed in the present Parliament ‘contentious social issues’ when cross-party support is sought beforhand can become a simple matter of course…
+1
“phillip you have been played by Gower, 3 News and the NZ Herald – it’s all a beat up, don’t get sucked into their wedge games, aimed at undermining a potential Labour-Greens alliance”.
Thanks for saying it karol. I was just about to trawl through yesterday’s statements re the dope and put it up for phillip.
(And phillip, I have to say, the attention you place on Metiria’s leather jacket is heading in the direction of OTT Comrade. Her choice of clothing has become a sticking point for you. It’s put me in mind of the Chills song despite the affection shown towards the item of clothing in that song)
karol, back to your talk, last night, about the Tova O Brien “cracks” piece: It has been interesting to watch how she has been moulded into a “political reporter”. I remember her many years ago as a host on Radio Active’s Breakfast show when she was literally been shown the ropes of news reading by the politically aware and well informed Liam Luff. She often had trouble with the pronunciation of international and local politicians and leaders, mainly because she had never heard of them. Fair play she was young, green and learning but it seemed there was no connection with the political and social history of her own country. Interesting the changes a few short years make……….
And yes, I do remember Gower’s “take” on Cunliffe becoming leader of the NZLP: the attention on the portrait on the wall and the residence in Herne Bay. Irrelevant stuff. Interesting point that Anne made about the Cunliffe portrait too and how it was a gift from an artist with an intellectual disability. Gower couldn’t have got it more wrong.
Bomber also made reference to Gower’s questions in his report on the conference – though I find Bradbury’s sentence structure a little confusing:
so..is cunnliffe saying he has never smoked pot..?
..he was never in a ‘choom’-gang..?
phillip ure..
Funny, I thought DC was saying he wasn’t a pisshead.
Headlines that Lie: Labour has no intention of backing cannabis policy, so says the headline in today’s Herald online in an obvious and pathetically useless attempt by that rag to create division where there is none,
David Cunliffe’s real stance on the decriminalization of cannabis if a Bill comes befor the Parliament seeking this, Labour will treat the matter as a conscience vote so it’s MP’s will be free to vote for or against decriminalization…
at least cunnliffe is more honest than turei..
phillip ure..
For f**ks sake, what is dishonest about Mets reported comments on decriminalization, the Green Party has a policy of doing just that,
In Government i fully expect the Green Party will put forward a Bill at some stage in the electoral cycle that would decriminalize cannabis,
Befor this occurs tho i would suggest that like Louisa Wall on the conscience vote which saw same sex marraige pass into law an attempt will be made to gain support from individual MP’s across the Parliament,
It is still a democracy Phillip,so we need a majority to make decriminalization happen and your abuse of Metiria Turei is childish and unhelpful…
.,phil it took along time for gay rights to become mainstream.
A change of govt is the best way to advance the cause.
Most university educated MPs will have tried and regularly used marajuana while at University.
I worked on student flats for 15 years less than 25% of those flats were marajuana free ,those students are Now our leaders National labour MPs.
I reckon marijuana decriminalisation IS mainstream. Pollies are always conservatives on these matters though, as the 30% (?) or so who remain against it are a very powerful and reliable voting block.
phillip ure
What’s the matter? Got a fish finger stuck in your throat and now you’re all scratchy and bitey?
Where is the phillip u of yore with an overview who highlights the important factors in the debate?
greywarbler..i have seen the tears of relief from a cancer/chemo-sufferer..
..as the effects of potent-cannabis kick in..
..and help to put them in another room from their suffering..
..that is the source of the ‘fishfinger’ in my ‘throat’..
..and if you saw that..you might even get a ‘fishfinger’ in yr own ‘throat’..
..this to me is cruel and inhumane..
..(the only ‘legal’-cannabis is the spray..sativex..and that costs $1300 for a months-script..(!)..)
..and this is happening today..every day..
..people are going thru this shit..and doctors will give them vast concoctions of pills..many with horrific side-effects..
..but the proven-relief-option of cannabis (no side-effects)..is denied to them..?
..just what sort of fucken madness is this..?
..and yes..the thought of a ‘progressive-govt/parties not having the balls/intellect to argue for this..?
..to just shelve it..(it’s not a ‘key’ policy’..?..)
..yes..that does fill me with fucken dismay..
..how could it not..?
..phillip ure..
Well phillip u you make a strong case. Just make sure that you always state what you are talking about – it doesn’t confuse people (me) then. If you don’t rant against Labour or politicians in general and just press for positive moves for the good reasons you state then you’re words will hit the target, they must. Which I agreewith and lots do, is one for aiming at.
chrs 4 the advice/wise-words..gw..
..your words make sense..
..it’s just that when turei opens her mouth about pot..
..all that history of betrayal floods back..
..and my blood starts to boil..
..but you are right…i should stick to the political/idea-arguments..
..(and i wd note that i published words of praise @ whoar re tureis wellington speech..
..my anger is at actions..and the lack of them..not so much the person..)
..phillip ure..
Anyone else this morning feeling warm, comforted, even dare I say it loved by the sight of a committed, intelligent, slightly emotional, vulnerable even, tempered to a finely honed sense of deep and historically-proven values by the insidious forces of satanic personal attack who looks poised to offer a stark contrast to the mammon-based PR-focused plastic and shallow moneychanger front for oppression and greed and usher in the end of the era of middling, muddling, systemic passive-aggressive cruel and abusive torture of the most innocent and already-downtrodden victims and any individual who dares to propose supporting them? Good-oh, same here.
*applause*
You mean a damn good double in the speeches of both David Cunliffe and Metiria Turei on Monday and Sunday,
Definitely!!! two big steps in the right direction and while i might have a moan occasionally about how far up into th middle class these programs are targeted i am eyes open enough to realize that to implement such that middle class has to be taken into the fold to gain electoral support…
Bad12
+1 re: speeches.
I can see how the “middle class welfare” meme might stick in the craw. Got to resist those divide & rule tactics. Universality would be better, but until we see the messes that NACT have swept under the rug while they’ve had charge of the account books, its best not to commit too far as yet.
Community not Division!
Parsupial, +1, totally agree, and where there is a perceived or real division in policy ‘we all’ should try and set aside our ‘tribal affiliations’ in favor of discussing the ways and means of finding a compromise solution that both parties members and supporters can accept…
Absolutely.
Isn’t National Super universal? Don’t hear anyone bleating about that!
Trickledown economics doesn’t work
Although I guess this is preaching to the converted, this is a nice little summary of research that shows the trickledown approach to boosting wealth for all is a failed theory. The problem is of course overturning the theory, it’s so ingrained in the general population.
I’ve been thinking lately that we need a maximum income of about $100,000 per year with anything over that to be taxed at 100%.
Combined with a decent UBI this will correct the present massive inequality that’s tearing our society apart.
Considering that this policy would be implemented after banning all foreign ownership it shouldn’t be too hard to return community assets that have been sold off back to the community.
“I’ve been thinking lately that we need a maximum income of about $100,000 per year with anything over that to be taxed at 100%.”
I agree with maximum incomes, but not a dollar value – more a proportionate value – x-times the lowest income. Also a FTT.
With the UBI set at 20,000 the maximum income would be 5x the minimum income and thus proportional 😛
And, yes, all in favour of a financial transaction tax while getting rid of the regressive GST.
+1 mirvox.
All the corporate welfar Nactional has handed out in tax cits direct lump sums and tax cuts for the well off have only lead to increased poverty especially of those who can’t vote. Children.
Help
Just missed an item on National Radio must have been first up between 9:10 and 9:30 about outsourcing services to a Perth Company. I think the name of the company was Strike Trust or something similar.
Cannot find anything on RNZ about the item can anyone point me to what the item was about?
Thanks
It is an odd idea, where we contract in an Aussie company to find New Zealand jobs for people on a sickness or disability benefit, and if that person is still in the job a year later the Aussie company get paid $2500.
Hard to see how it works as a business model unless there is a massive chunk of the equation missing, and I strongly suspect there are hidden fees attached to this policy that have not been shared.
Has anyone got details on the company eg. name etc and why it is being run as a trust in NZ?
‘the trust’ you mention is a NZ operation, that was interviewed, and apparently they chose not to apply for the programme as they do not believe there is a way to make it financially viable for them as they did not have a suitable employment network
Xtasy has posted below in more detail
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-28012014/#comment-764394
Hi Ron,
It wasn’t anything to do with APN in Perth was it?
From karol’s article last week: “Welfare Profiteers”
http://thestandard.org.nz/welfare-profiteers/
Xox
Just heard Kathryn on RNZ discussing the privatisation of MSD for placing solo parents and mentally compromised people into work. For a large fee of course. This is another nail in the coffin of public service provision, just like jails etc. More corporate hand over. Despicable that RNZ doesn’t even question the injustice to our public service.
i think/fear that labour have had a rush of blood to the head..
..following the ‘success’ of their american-styling leadership campaign..
..and are planning to subject us to a year-long american-styling election campaign..?
..(shudder..!..)
..i think this whole speech/strategy was ham-fisted..(excuse the non-vegan metaphor..)
..all cunnliffe need to do yesterday..
..was not to release any detailed-policy..
..but to speak directly to the unease felt my many (both left..and nats with a heart..)..
..of/at our current poverty/inequality..
..all cunnliffe needed to do was to speak to those concerns..
..and to promise that a lab/grn govt will be focused on righting those inequities..
..that..and promising to clean up the waterways..
..would have been enough..
..when pressed for policy-detail..cunnliffe answers..
‘..this is all being worked on..everything is on the table..
..we have to rethink how we are running our society..clearly we have some serious problems..ansd a lab/grn govt etc etc..an uncaring key-govt. etc etc..
..and our overall plan will be released at the beginning of the election-campaign..’
…why didn’t cunnliffe just keep it simple like that..?
..why the (un-needed..and instantly attacked) policy-ejaculation..?
..and as for the cannabis issue..?
..all cunnliffe had to say is that ‘we are looking at fast-moving developments internationally..
..and will release a clear policy in that pre-election policy-release..
…why didn’t he leave that door open..?
..and as a p.s..could someone tell me why labour are unable to even think about..let alone countenance as a possibility..let alone argue..
..the logic/rationalities of the colorado-model..?
..and if doubting the public mood on this..go read the comments-thread on that stuff piece from the other day..(highlighted in general debate thread a few days ago..)
..a long comment-list..
..95% arguing for/demanding an end to prohibition..
..i repeat..
..what are they fucken scared of..?
..phillip ure..
P U
Really: Get over yourself.
Phillip, stop f**king lying, read the article i alluded to above in the Herald online, David Cunliffe has said that Labour as a party does not intend to decriminalize, BUT, if the issue comes befor the Parliament He will make it a matter of a conscience vote for Labour MP’s,
i have now heard David Cunliffe say exactly that on RadioNZ national, TV3news, and He has been quoted thus in various newspapers,
By the sound of you, you need a good puff on the ‘medicinal’…
“David Cunliffe has said that Labour as a party does not intend to decriminalize, BUT, if the issue comes befor the Parliament He will make it a matter of a conscience vote for Labour MP’s,”
Another smart move from Labour. Let the GP bring it up, but let Labour support it too without having to lead the way.
Maybe we should start keeping a list of the ways in which L and the GP are going to be in a mutually beneficial relationship.
“all Cunnliffe need to do yesterday was not to release any detailed-policy”
If he had done that Phillip, then all we would be hearing is how Labour has no policy ideas
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No offence Phillip, and if you want to tell me to f-off and mind my own business that is your right. But may I pass on some advice I have been given (and given more than once.)
Maybe some time away from the keyboard today would help the headspace. Get out in the sunshine and look for some of the good things that are still out there.
I know all too well that battling the ills of the world without taking a regular break now and again is unnecessarily destructive to objectivity. Less critical items can artificially inflate their importance. It becomes increasingly difficult to stay focused on the wider issues. In that environment, the human mind has a tendency to foment stress.
When looking for answers look to nature, find a quiet spot and think on the question most bothering you. I guarantee the answer is not sitting in the keyboard.
I do hope your day improves
Kia kaha
+1 very good sound advice for everyone. Thanks freedom
thanks Polish Pride,
on-line debate can get out of control at the best of times and with politics in particular it is such a simple thing to forget that people are at the other end. We need to look out for each other on-line as we do in real life. I recently took a big dose of my own advice (including a prolonged break from the FB) and must say I am glad I did. Reflection is an important part of any step forward
@ freedom..
“.. Get out in the sunshine and look for some of the good things that are still out there..”
i am doing that tomorrow..going to see/visit with a bunch of vegans i know..
.(..and haven’t seen for awhile..)
..who have turned a dairy-farming-trashed valley..into a minor paradise..
..i am on a promise of a vegan banquet as a welcome-lunch..
..so yr advice is already in hand..
..(and i should add..freedom..that in person i attempt to fill my life with as much humour/good-humour as i can..
..i’m often the one wisecracking/making the jokes/trying to extract the best from any given situation..
(..just don’t get me fucken started on things like how animals..and cancer-patients..just to name two ..are currently treated..eh..?..)
..phillip ure..
Cheers for taking it as intended Phillip.
Have to say, i’m a little envious of the promised banquet, as I am sick of making my own food (The single people out there will understand. ) Enjoy the visit.
Phillip-I respect your right to write in this style but I can’t be bothered reading your stuff because of it.
ok..bg..it isn’t compulsory..
phillip ure..
Not unsurprisingly serious questions are being raised about the new outsourced “mental health employment services” that MSD and WINZ have contracted out to various “service providers” like the Perth based ‘APM Workcare’, New Zealand based ‘Workwise’ and a few others.
Remember this story from 22 January from Simon Collins, in the ‘New Zealand Herald’, titled “Oz firm paid to find jobs for Kiwis”:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11190002
This morning Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ National had Sharon Wilson-Davis, CEO of the STRIVE Community Trust, and Sandra Kirikiri from the Ministry of Social Development (Director of Welfare Reform) answer some good questions on the risks, the feasibility and other matters. Here is the link to the available audio track:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2583727/the-new-trial-to-get-sole-parents-off-benefits-and-into-work
Sharon Wilson-Davis was once also a member on the controversial ‘Welfare Working Group’, that Paula Bennett had hand-picked to discuss getting more persons (also those sick and disabled) into work, as part of fundamental, indeed radical to draconian welfare reforms, of which the last major ones have been implemented since July 2013. There is some info on Sharon (and her ‘Strive Community Trust’) here:
http://www.strive.org.nz/wawcs0148854/idDetails=164/Sharon-Wilson-Davis-–-Chief-Executive-Officer.html
http://igps.victoria.ac.nz/WelfareWorkingGroup/Sharon%20Wilson-Davis.html
Here is also an older article in the New Zealand Herald from 11 March 2011, where she answers to strong criticism from Sue Bradford and others, that was directed at the ‘Welfare Working Group’ and their aims:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10711489
I listened to the interviews that Kathryn Ryan conducted a bit after 09 am today, 28 Jan. 2014, and I was getting even more worried after hearing Sharon admit what very serious risks there are running such an “experiment” with often very vulnerable persons, who may have all kinds of health conditions and issues, that has left them disabled and disadvantaged to compete with “fit” and “healthy” people. Sandra Kirikiri from MSD was apparently a bit short for answers and explanations, and she basically admitted, it is just a “trial”, and it needs to be seen, how it will work. The pressures seem to be on the service deliverers to get persons into jobs, and if they do not meet a high enough success rate, they will run a loss. That fear they must have, running their “businesses”, will simply mean, they will put pressures on the “clients” referred to them, which will put especially mentally ill in very dangerous situations, fearing losing their benefit and else, should they not accept any kind of “ordinary” job on the open marked, that is deemed “suitable” by WINZ case managers, and by the staff working for the providers.
I know that there is an OIA before MSD, asking for more info on all this, and it should be revealing yet more.
This is truly worrying, and MSD are conducting “experiments” with “clients” from high risk groups. Remember ATOS and the Department of Work and Pensions in the UK, I’d say. It is time to stop such risky “experiments”, before any person suffers serious consequences. But we will likely not hear about it, as the providers may not be covered by the Official Information Act.
Shame on this government, shame on Paula Bennett, I can only say!
This whole issue is ideologically driven. The trouble is we have to wait a generation or two before anyone will accept the proof that such acts are not working, but by then, such institutional changes are inground, and bloody hard to reverse.
Why are we paying overseas institutions to run New Zealand institutions? Bad enough when we hire overseas consultants to confirm what we already know. To me this is an appalling waste of money, and if what we suspect is true, an absurd treatment of humanity.
I still think Helen Clark’s dismantling of the mental health hospitals, whereby a lot of people were housed in collective units run by the DHB’s has not been entirely successful. Yes for some living out in the community has been a success, but now we are about to see the supports kicked out from under them.
@Xtasy and philj….agreed privatising services to the most vulnerable is not the way to go…it just means the NACT Bankster Govt ….. of Key and Joyce and pawn poodle Paula Bennett …..is less acountable to the most vulnerable New Zealanders…while screwing them …It is despicable!
…… In the meantime bankster trader ‘custodians’ of New Zealand cream off what they can by selling State Assets and building multi billion dollar privatised toll motorways which will benefit them, their Trust funds and their ‘Chosen’ Bankster overseas mates
1.) All NACT proposed super motorways should be AXED!( we dont need them and they will be an environmental sore)
2.) …the billions saved should be used by the New Zealand Labour /Green government to support the most vulnerable….. mentally and physically disabled and beneficiaries ( this is the Christian way! ….to look after the most vulnerable in society!)
3.) the money saved from the unwanted super motorways costing billions ….can then also be spent on upgrading NZ State free education to a very high quality …..free university education, free polytech education, free apprenticeships, free internships for NEW ZEALANDERS!
….lets look after New Zealanders instead of treating them like delinquents in their own country!!!!
4.).there should be no young New Zealander or any New Zealander left untrained and without meaningful work….this is the job of the NEW ZEALAND government and not the ‘Chosen’ Bankster private companies!!!( from overseas)
Let us ALL take back New Zealand for New Zealanders!
+1 Chooky
Interesting. The damned economy might pick up and there will be less unemployment which will bugger up the hitherto stable settings of our inflation! Am I on Planet Key I ask? And there is No Answer.
Staff shortage looming for employers
Updated at 7:12 am today
The New Zealand economy has soaked up any spare capacity and will be moving into a period of excess demand this year, meaning it could get tougher for employers to get workers, an economist says.
The Bank of New Zealand-Business New Zealand Performance of Services Index (PSI), was up more than a point at 57.5 in December, compared with 56.4 in November. A reading about 50 indicates expansion.
During the past year, the PSI averaged 55.8, compared with 53.9 in 2012.
All five main sub-indices were in expansion last month, including new orders and business, activity and sales, and employment.
Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) economist Craig Ebert said the economy was picking up and becoming much more generalised.
“It really tells us that growth is not just good, it’s getting quite strong and it’s going to get stronger,” Mr Ebert said.
“The issue we see ahead of us is how the economy is going to be able to cope with that in terms of supply.
“Overall I think there will be some pressure coming from the demand side of the economy which will start to lift some of those inflation measures over the next 12 to 24 months.”
The economy had soaked up any spare capacity it had during the past few years and if the growth indicators were correct, then the economy would be moving into period of excess demand as soon as this year.
That equated to rising inflation and, in turn, to capacity constraints, including in the labour market, Mr Ebert said.
“It may, for example, turn out that firms find it more difficult to secure staff.”
The property and business category of the index nudged up to 57.5 in December, from 57.4 in November, which the BNZ said showed little sign the property market had fallen into a hole since the Reserve Bank introduced lending restrictions.
The retail category hit 74.5 points which, although not adjusted for seasonal effects, was 13.5 points above December 2012.
So now growth is not good news????
Its obvious really, growth is good to a point…lets face it I stopped growing, as did you…if we kept growing the doors would not fit and we would crush the seats…or perhaps our size would have killed us. Once we had grown enough, well that was enough. Wish all the idiots out there whose answer to the economy is “growth” understood this, it cant go on for ever…(and in reality it has stopped except on bankers ledgers of imagined money).
nah, they’ll boost interest rates to fuck up any recovery before it picks up steam.
They might be insane, but at least they’re consistent.
Recovery???? Dont you mean the blip in the graph that makes the short term appear better (as opposed to the constant “real” decline for the last 30 years).
whoops, my computer autocorrected to “English (NZ – Neolib)”. Sorry, yes that’s the one 🙂
LOL
The Guardian profiles Helen Clark and asks if she’ll be the next UN Secretary-General.
@patrickgowernz: David Cunliffe has just walked off on a press conference refusing to answer questions about the baby bonus
Well, that’s inspiring.
Oh Dear, The Cunliffe melts under the first sign of pressure.
A terrible start to this years election campaign for the red team.
no why should he talk to Patrick Gower and take this doggie’s shit? ….after all David Cunliffe is the next 2014 leader of New Zealand!……..eat your heart out Patrick Gower!
…and eat your heart out BM!
he loved it when they listened to kiwipower or whatever the fuck it was called. No real for it though. looks like the markets over the last 30 yrs have delivered lower than cost power prices.
why wouldn’t he interact with journalists unless he’s worried they’ll see the pitfalls of this rubbish policy?
all a bit underwhelming really.
TightyRighty …i never laughed so hard when you were banned for trolling….now where is BiG Daddy?
Cunny cant think on his feet, he just reads speeches prepared for him by his spin weasels
@ Naki listen to Ron!
…you are a spin weasel if ever there was one….you just go off and suck on your rotten eggs
What a fertile imagination you have.
Here is the film:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Labour-Parents-wont-be-able-to-rort-baby-bonus/tabid/1607/articleID/330015/Default.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
So:
1. It was a standup in the hall outside the Caucus room.
2. Cunliffe spent 9 minutes answering questions on the scheme.
3. He has a caucus meeting to go to.
4. He left politely and said he had to go to the meeting.
I would expect this sort of spin from a RWNJ but not a reporter.
“@patrickgowernz: David Cunliffe has just walked off on a press conference refusing to answer questions about the baby bonus”
patrick gower doesn’t get the answers he wants from cunliffe so flounces off on twitter
FIFY
Gower is probably sore about the response that Cunliffe gave him last night that made it to air on TV3 (don’t usually watch that crappy 3news – it is full of bias – but wanted to see the framing).
A loaded question was posed by Gower about poor people spending the $60 on tobacco & alcohol.
Response from Cunliffe [not verbatim but can be checked on the TV3 Website] – ‘People wouldn’t want me in their houses telling them what to spend their money on and you [Gower] would be the first to call us a ‘Nanny State’ if we did’
I was chuckling about that for the rest of the evening.
The response was spot on – quick and appropriate
Cunliffe ‘can’t think on his feet’ is nonsense – and don’t all you right-wingers know it.
Unless the reporter was also a RWNJ.
BTW, just so everyone knows, that tweet was from yesterday afternoon.
Ha! Well the same comments as above applies. If his tweet was about yesterday, then most of the time Gower kept asking questions about cannabis. He seemed more interested in that than asking questions about the Best Start policy.
Edit: Actually – it’s confusing. In Gower’s twitter stream, it says the tweet was made 3 hours ago. If you roll over the 3 hours, it says 27 Jan 1.37pm
Edit#2: that 27 Jan time is US Pacific Time. Checked it re one of my retweets to @patrickgowernz within the last couple of hours.
http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Key-walks-out-of-press-conference/tabid/423/articleID/309655/Default.aspx
He did not ‘just walk off’ He explained quite clearly that he had a caucus meeting and he had to leave.
Sorry to spoil the great story you were trying to concoct.
Well here he is at the stand up, answering questions on the policy.
Sounds like Gower has a touch of this.
Edit: note how Gower tries to dominate Cunliffe’s stand up, and often keeps getting ignored as Cunliffe also attends to questions from others.
I think he thinks he’s some kind of gonzo journalist but doesn’t realise he’s not funny.
Gower is trying to be Ace Cub reporter. And there’s a battle of wills going on between him and Cunliffe. Yesterday, Gower dominated a lot of the question time, with mainly only Corrin Dann getting a question in.
If you look at the video of today’s standup, Gower keeps trying to ask questions, but Cunliffe ignores him and takes questions from others. At one point, Cunliffe turns away from Gower. As a teacher I’d pretty much do the same if someone in the class kept trying to dominate the discussion. The rest of the journos are really polite and let other journos ask some questions, but Gower was always trying to be in there hogging the questions.
Yesterday, as soon as the speech was over, before Cunliffe had left the front of the hall, Gower was up the front of the hall in front of the camera, with the camera lights on him. For Gower, it’s always “Me, Me, pick Me”.
Good to get that behind-the-scenes info. Ignoring Gower does sound like the best idea.
Karol…..
“Me! Pick me! Pick me!” . Wasn’t that the Donkey in the first Shrek movie?
… Come to think of it the resemblance is uncanny..so is the annoyance factor.
But seriously the other journalists look and sound quite good in comparison to donkey.
The headline should be: “Thwarted Reporter Throws Hissy Fit”
Have to admire Cunliffe’s calm patience and manner.He obviously doesn’t suffer fools but doesn’t sneer and become snide like Key.
“Me! Pick me! Pick me!” . Wasn’t that the Donkey in the first Shrek movie?”
And since then. Every repulsive, self interested little wanna be, has repeated said happy refrain “Pick Me! Pick me! Pick me!”
If ever there was anyone desperate, it is Patrick Gower. Always strikes me as a stoat in the headlights.
lol
Nah! Possum.. Stoats are alert and rapid thinkers.
Gower will probably become increasingly desperate as Cunliffe’s fortunes rise. After Gower’s failed attempt to push Cunliffe from Labour leadership contention, he must now be worried about his future career.
If his career is his main focus, Gower would be better trying to be a really good journalist, rather than a faux-based jonolist.
The baby bonus I think was a Muldoon term for something Labour instigated to help parents.
Why would Cunliffe play to the plastic jonolists second life games?
patrick gower doesn’t get the answers he wants from cunliffe so flounces off on twitter
FIFY
Is this the same Bob Jones?
Without humanities, science could destroy us
Handout culture should be starved to death
Does he realise that humanity and humanities is linked?
Hey he’s made a lot of money, his opinion matters!
Bob Jones has been saying that sort of stuff for years. He once said he’d rather hire someone with a history degree than an MBA, on the basis that they would have a wider view of the world. In those days he was attacking economics, before Randian repeaters took over the faculties. Now he’s attacking scientists, in line with every other fool who doesn’t want to be responsible for global warming. All the while, he’s never stopped attacking workers, women, Maori,……..
…probably not…his business was based on the poor giving him handouts for renting his houses
BM wipe your bum.
and who saw Steven Joyce on the teevee last night. The look on his dial shows that he knows the game is up.
Byeeee to you and your crowd a.s.a.p.
Bob Jones?? daughter was on the Dole for years she was staying in some run down flat in Dunedin she was suffering from depression very understanable.
Bob Jones would come and visit her in disguise so no one would recognise him.
source?
actually, I don’t want to know if any of that were true.
Poor form, IMO.
Yes poor form and not relevant to the genuine issues raised by BJ.
I agree, and I doubted there would be a source forthcoming
They give themselves the right to delve into the lives of others, the comfortably off that is. Actually I believe many of the c-o have quite serious mental problems, brought on by feelings of inferiority because of the high demands for achievement and inter-sibling rivalry they experience.
…yes she is not responsible for him…..and we have bigger fish to fry here counteracting the ugly trolls
( and much as I enjoy it…..I have got to go and do some work)
cunnliffe is giving a blinder of a speech in parliament..
..and yes..he used the words..’there is an alternative…’
..phillip ure..
it deserves featuring here..
phillip ure..
it was the speech cunnliffe should have given yesterday..
..had i read that transcript..
..i wouldn’t have left..
phillip ure..
and he would have lifted the roof off that hall..
..and would have given gower much more to ask about..than pot..
..and i have slagged gower in the past for perceived failings/ures..
..but he is only doing his job by quizzing both labour and greens on this policy..
..he would be lax in his duties if he did not..
..phillip ure..
Yeah mate, excellent speech from our next PM.
And Key just sounded like he’d been at the Beaujolais over lunch.
http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/22653
Graeme Aitken, Dean of Education has some very helpful cautions about the Government plan to pay millions for teacher Leadership.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11192750
http://www.greystar.co.nz/content/blogger-puts-boot-0
Cameron Slater’s latest piece of vindictive nastiness has Greymouth in an uproar. This family has lost four sons (including one killed at Pike River) and they don’t need this shit. Judd’s Mum is after Slater and I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes/
Cameron Slater has just written himself a never-ending debt of horror from the people of the west coast.
This is the second last time I will ever have anything to do with anything about the cunt. Probably just as well draft post was deleted. Worst person alive in NZ.
wow.
I’m surprised that I wasn’t overly surprised. Disgusted, of course, but not really surprised.
Gives humans a bad name, that one.
Tui Bromley seems to have done her job well – making sure that Slater’s reference to Helen Clark was shown up for the lie it was:
“The ‘feral West Coasters’ label has been around since 2000, when former Prime Minister Helen Clark was speaking on National Radio at the height of the native timber logging debate, but her comments were taken out of context.
A transcript of the sentence in question shows that Ms Clark actually said: ‘Attitudes of some on the West Coast could be fairly feral’.”
The Greymouth Star is a very enjoyable read and Tui Bromley an entertaining journo. It is highly informative (more so than msm shit) and it has a history relating to this website too believe it or not. Pretty much every single person on the coast reads the local rags ahead of anything mainstream.
Imagine getting an entire region of 30,000 people calling for your blood.
Good to know.
Was surprised to see a journalist actually looked up a transcript for an article. 😉
Obviously spending too much time reading the Herald…
And then this little gem comes to light.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/234494/cyber-attack-shuts-whale-oil-blog
Oh dear Blubber over at Whaleoil is upset that his site is down from a DOS attack.
More likely he forgot to pay his server bill
Last one here.
He has received several death threats. What a surprise. What a fool. How ignorant he is. Nothing would surprise me from this point in relation to this issue. Keep it on your radar folks.
http://www.odt.co.nz/source/apnz/289597/whaleoil-blog-hacked
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/30013080/whaleoil-down-due-to-dos-attack
Fucking good job.
Death threat seems over the top when the scumbag is clearly dead on the inside anyway.
National, WhaleSoil and Farrar, such a perfect mix of psychopaths, sociopaths and overall societal scum.
it never ceases to amaze the extent to which you fail to understand the what the right wing (voter) actually wants.
You mean they want ‘psychopaths, sociopaths and overall societal scum’.? Well, they’ve lucked out in the last five years, haven’t they?
case in point
That’s the brilliance of the Right Wing leadership. Getting beneficiaries and those on the minimum wage to actually vote for them. The Left can barely do that some days.
Its astounding!
Predictable.
The only thing that surprises me is that the Disqus comment service (according to one email that is what getting attacked) doesn’t handle DOS or DDOS attacks. It could be that it is his site as that seems like a more obvious single point of failure.
That he is getting attacked doesn’t surprise me at all.
blubber meet kettle
http://imgur.com/16809mM
Poor Cameron. Sob sob; personal responsibility means never having to say you’re sorry.
Ban Facebook?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Labour-threatens-Facebook-ban-over-tax-issue/tabid/1607/articleID/330056/Default.aspx
WTF is going on within labour, if this was cricket the ICC would be starting a match fixing investigation.
Honestly do the left not want to win?
hang on – who brought in the internet censorship law, where ISPs monitor automatically web traffic and send warning notices? And you still think solidly banning a website because of unpaid tax is laughably impossible?
I think clark overextended himself, and let gower’s crowd do a “funny” editorial on a labour mp (see karol above), but only a little bit.
Overextended himself. True, I got the feeling he’s in way over his head
Maybe cleaning the skid marks off the parliament bogs may be more his level.
Christ, what a fucking dumb arse.
I know it’s the best news you’ve seen in days, but it’s really not that major. Gone by suppertime.
Seems reasonable. If a company in NZ doesn’t pay it’s taxes it gets shutdown, usually via receivership but the how really isn’t the issue.
What Labour should be doing is saying that they’re going to re-write the tax laws from the ground up so that companies, especially multi-nationals, can’t dodge the taxes that they’re supposed to be paying.
LOL – another 3 News special. Where did the idea of banning facebook come from? Who suggests it? Watch the vid.
From that, the Headline: Labour threatens Facebook ban over tax issue
another 3 News anti-Labour beat up.
They really are out to get Labour this week!
Mind you, Clark needs to be sharper and not fall into the faux jonolist traps.
So fucking what? Facebook is so passe. Don’t touch Twitter though!
Twitter LOLZ, the home of those with ‘challenged’ literacy…
Thought for the day
Capitalism is inhuman.
Socialism is enslavement.
Polish, qualify the view that Socialism is enslavement, if socialism frees someone from poverty using any means then it is hardly enslavement,
It is in fact Capitalism in it’s starkest form that is both inhuman and enslavement, look at the US at the moment, millions of unemployment benefits cancelled and no jobs, that’s the inhuman enslavement of people into total poverty in a land of plenty…
Under Socialism is the goal of the government low unemployment.
Are those who earn well faced with a higher tax to help support those less fortunate.
Is the less fortunate man given enough to live what someone else has determined to be a dignified life?
Does this man have dreams and aspirations that he perhaps cannot afford?
Is his best chance at having them to one day find a job and earn enough so that he can make them come true?
Is the generally accepted life in socialism Get an education, get a job, work until you are 65, then retire?
That is enslavement and is not a system designed to enable man to be happy
It is a system that man essentially has to continuously work for in order to survive. Or has to be reliant on the taxes of others given to him by the state
If the goal of unions was to lobby govt to enact policy to have the goal of the govt to steer society on a course that made human happiness and maximising time spent with friends and family the aim of society. What if the goal of unions was to free people from having to work.
That’s not socialism. That’s some forms of social democracy – or welfare capitalism.
Does socialism not work on a basis of redistribution of wealth..?
you can earn enough to essentially break free of the enslavement of working under capitalism. It is harder to break free under socialism. The inhumanity of capitalism is in that whilst people can break free, others suffer terribly.
You think a man is free because socialism has taken him out of poverty…….?
I guess it depends on your definition of enslavement.
I guess it depends on YOUR definition of socialism.
My definition.. the only socialism you are likely to ever get through the current L vs R political system
Pete Seeger has died.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/arts/music/pete-seeger-songwriter-and-champion-of-folk-music-dies-at-94.html
94 years old and still kicking against the pricks. Here he is with John Cash:
https://ia700808.us.archive.org/13/items/PeteSeeger-01-25/PeteSeeger-RollTheUnionOn.mp3
Source:
https://archive.org/details/PeteSeeger-01-10
https://archive.org/details/PeteSeeger-01-25
A life well lived.
I watched David Cunliffe’s speech, then switched over to watch the Grammy’s, because of Lorde. She did well. But that pales when I see Pete died yesterday. As you say karol, a life well lived.
Him and Woody laid down the tracks which everyone followed. Thanks joe90, and Te Reo Putake.
Unsurprisingly his site is down so here’s the cache of Pete Seeger’s Statement to the Court prior to his 1961 sentencing for contempt of Congress.
“Thank you, your honor. After hearing myself talked about, pro and con, for three days, I am grateful for the chance to say a few unrestricted words.
First, I should like to thank my lawyer for his masterly presentation of my defense. He has worked over many long weeks and months, knowing that it is beyond my power to pay him adequately for his work. I believe that he, and great legal minds like Justice Hugo Black and Dr. Alexander Meiklejohn, have explained far better than I can why they believe the First Amendment gives an American citizen the right to refuse to speak upon occasion.
Secondly, I should like to state before this court, much as I did before Congressman Walter’s committee, my conviction that I have never in my life said, or supported, or sung anything in any way subversive of my country. Congressman Walter stated that he was investigating a conspiracy. I stated under oath that I had never done anything conspiratorial. If he doubted my word, why didn’t he even question it? Why didn’t he have me indicted for perjury? Because, I believe, even he knew that I was speaking the truth.
Some of my ancestors were religious dissenters who came to America over 300 years ago. Others were abolitionists in New England of the 1840’s and 50’s. I believe that in choosing my present course I do no dishonor to them, or to those who may come after me.
I am 42 years old, and count myself a very lucky man. I have a wife and three healthy children, and we live in a house we built with our own hands, on the banks of the beautiful Hudson River. For twenty years I have been singing folksongs of America and other lands to people everywhere. I am proud that I never refused to sing to any group of people because I might disagree with some of the ideas of some of the people listening to me. I have sung for rich and poor, for Americans of every possible political and religious opinion and persuasion, of every race, color, and creed.
The House committee wished to pillory me because it didn’t like some few of the many thousands of places I have sung for. Now it so happens that the specific song whose title was mentioned in this trial “Wasn’t That A Time” is one of my favorites. The song is apropos to this case. I wonder if I might have your permission to sing it here before I close?”
(At this point the judge refused to hear Pete Seeger sing.)
“Well, perhaps you will hear it some other time. A good song can only do good, and I am proud of the songs I have sung. I hope to be able to continue singing these songs for all who want to listen, Republicans, Democrats, and independents. Do I have the right to sing these songs? Do I have the right to sing them anywhere?”
Also, Toshi Seeger died last year.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013/07/11/201159066/Toshi-Seeger-Wife-Of-Folk-Singer-Pete-Seeger-Dies-At-91