It’s truly astonishing the way that the Government has been able to suppress evidence of business donors gaining special access to Cabinet information. Now that Stuart Nash has been fired from Cabinet for leaking sensitive information to individuals who funded his election campaign, the focus has shifted to why this ...
Ele Ludemann writes – Have you noticed the media’s propensity to label people and groups in a way that shows negative bias? People speaking up for women’s right to their own spaces and fairness in sport aren’t feminists or women’s rights activists, they’re anti-trans or transphobic. The Taxpayers’ Union is often prefaced with the label right ...
Photo by Magdalena Kula Manchee on UnsplashIt’s that time of the week for an ‘Ask Me Anything’ session for paying subscribers about the week that was for an hour (I’ll be online for an hour from 12.30 so pile them up), including:The Government’s latest climate back-tracks on diesel cars and ...
All of the Government’s five options for improving Auckland’s links include or prioritise tunnels and bridges for cars, double-cab utes and trucks ahead of walking, cycling and rail. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Labour Government has brought forward plans to start building and/or drilling a second Waitematā harbour ...
Lindsay Mitchell writes: Green’s co-leader Marama Davidson just keeps digging the hole she is in deeper. First she showed her bitter antipathy towards white CIS (same gender as birth) men. Then she walked it back to all men. On Tuesday night on TV1 News she said, “…overwhelmingly it ...
as Auckland’s cantankerous mayor stumbles from one crisis to the next, the hope is not that Wayne Brown will learn on the job – that’s almost certainly a lost cause – but that Aucklanders will manage to come together and limit the damage that he threatens to inflict on the ...
Wow, it’s the end of March already. Here are a few of the smaller items that caught our attention over the last week. We need better trucks Newsroom reported on a Ministry of Transport report showing just how dirty our current truck fleet is. A heavy diesel truck costs ...
Listening to RNZ yesterday, I heard that the government was making a major announcement about a second crossing of the Waitematā. I was fairly surprised.I’d have thought with it being election year the last thing the government would want to be talking about was a massive Auckland transport project. Especially ...
I cracked open a fortune cookie with a family group after dinner. My loved ones got warm, inspiring messages such as my son’s: ‘You will be successful in business and society’. Nice. I got this one: “Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.” By coincidence, I had already drafted a ...
THOMAS CRANWELL: When ideology turns violent – the political and media backing behind the Posie Parker mob Thomas Cranwell writes – ——————————– Similar to other countries, the transgender movement in New Zealand is not a grassroots organisation but instead is an increasingly ...
It is a lovely autumn morning.The sun is shining. The birds in Kōwhai park are twittering.There is music playing on Today FM.You can hardly tell that the children at Kia Kaha primary school are being greenhouse gassed.It is not just happening at Kia Kaha Primary School.It is happening to all ...
Poor old Mike Hosking! In today’s Herald, such is his visceral antipathy to our current government, that he is reduced to wrestling with himself in trying to understand how it is that despite its many failings – in his eyes at least – the Labour government is somehow ahead in ...
Air pollution kills, and dirty diesel vehicles are a major source of it. Cleaning them up has enormous social benefits in avoided deaths and hospitalisations. How much? Billions of dollars: A report quietly released by the Ministry of Transport in July shows tighter regulation of vehicle imports for air ...
Via one of my lovely Twitter sources, the sardonic and interesting @johubris … the following ‘poll question’ has been recently distributed: “Thinking about your life and your country now, what is the most important issue that you want to see the New Zealand Government addressing?” This qualifies as push-polling, which ...
Buzz from the Beehive Whoa, there – we can’t keep up! Suddenly, the PM’s ministerial team has unleashed a slew of press statements. Sixteen announcements have been posted on the Beehive website since our last check. This burst of activity (we wondered) might be the result of them responding positively ...
Big transport news today with the government beginning public engagement on options for the Waitemata Harbour Connections project. This project has had an incredibly long history, with previous versions somehow managing to be incredibly expensive, detrimental to most of the transport outcomes we are trying to achieve in Auckland, and ...
If ever there was an example of complacency about corruption and integrity in New Zealand politics it’s the fact that the Prime Minister’s Office knew back in 2021 that Cabinet Minister Stuart Nash was feeding privileged Cabinet information to business donors but did nothing about it. This is one of ...
Open access notables "Despite the potential for positive methane–climate feedbacks from global wetlands, most Earth System Models (ESMs) and Integrated Assessment Models (IAMs) that informed the last Assessment Report of the IPCC do not directly incorporate this process."Publishing in Nature Climate Change, Zheng et al. unpack the implications of this ...
Among its ‘go slow’ on climate measures, the Government chose to delay tighter regulation of vehicle imports for air pollution for six years because it would have increased vehicle purchase costs. Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government continues to backtrack on moves to reduce emissions, with three news items ...
Stuart Nash’s downfall appears to have had its beginnings with one of the players from the “Dirty Politics” scandals of 2014. Simon Lusk, a close associate of Cameron “Whaleoil” Slater, one of the key figures in Nicky Hagar’s “Dirty Politics” expose, has been associated with Stuart Nash. Lusk has ...
Worried if this election will be shellacked by “the culture war”? That arrived ages ago. And, one side is definitely in panic mode, even if that’s not being admitted right now. Because of that, they’re reverting yet again to straight up… culture wars. Yes, fellow traveler, the Party who ...
All About Climate is a Youtube channel dedicated to communicating climate science and combating misinformation about global warming. It is run by Roshan Salgado D'Arcy - or 'Rosh' for short. He is a geology graduate with an MSc in climate change and is currently reading for a PhD in the communication of ...
ChatGPT is an interesting little beastie. I have only really started experimenting with it recently – not because I have any interest in using it for my own writing projects, but because I enjoy pushing and prodding the AI in strange directions. I have spent an inordinate amount of ...
The science of climate change is clear: we need to stop burning fossil fuels as quickly as possible, and we cannot burn even a fraction of those already discovered. So naturally, Labour is offering oil companies more exploration permits: The Government is offering companies another opportunity to search for ...
There are two keyboards in my office. I hammer at one a lot more than the other.But some days — today, for instance, after a few days of steeping myself in toxicity —that other keyboard can really come into its own.I learned to play the piano as a kid, went ...
Is the government imploding? Prime Minister Chris Hipkins has had to sack one of his more effective (and likeable) ministers, while another (from the Green Party) has insulted many of the adult population. For his part, Hipkins had appeared to be shaping up well since he took over the ...
Mobbed! As Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull’s (Posie Parker’s) opponents surged forward, her only protecters were a handful of burly security guards who surrounded their client and began forcing a path through what was now a howling mob. At least one video recording shows the diminutive Keen-Minshull, a terrified rag-doll, eyes dulled by ...
Buzz from the Beehive It looks like Marama Davidson must revile white sis males – or some other group of our population – three more times before she gets the heave-ho as one of Chris Hipkins’ ministers. That’s the conclusion to be drawn from the PM’s treatment of Stuart Nash, ...
For a serial offender like Stuart Nash, it was inevitable that another skeleton would emerge from his closet, and end his ministerial career. This one though, was a whopper. Previously, Nash had tried to tell the Police how to do their job. He had also tried to tell the courts ...
Cabinet Minister Stuart Nash was sacked last night for violating Cabinet Collective Responsibility rules, when it was revealed he disclosed sensitive Government information to business supporters who had donated money to him. The breach of the Cabinet Manual was enough to land him in trouble, but the fact that it ...
Some good news last week with the Council confirming that Te Hā Noa – Victoria St Linear Park will go ahead and with construction starting on 11 April – though with a few fishhooks. Te Hā Noa, a renewed Victoria Street, is the next big project in Auckland Council’s Midtown ...
Stuart Nash’s assurances to Prime Minister Chris Hipkins that there were no further examples of him breaching the Cabinet Manual became meaningless with the release of emails from Nash sharing Cabinet discussions with business people. The Prime Minister had no choice but to sack Nash as a Minister with immediate ...
Let that sink in for a moment - Christopher Luxon, who has spent the last year demonising Māori, wants Marama Davidson to apologise to white men.You will likely have seen the video, or read about it. Marama Davidson rushing along Princes St on Saturday evening, the road that runs between ...
Stuart Nash, the great-grandson of former Prime Minister Sir Walter Nash, has lost his political career. File Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Stuart Nash was sacked for telling donors what happened in Cabinet. Wellington’s City and Regional Councils are going cold on light rail plans. Wayne Brown is under ...
NZ First Leader Winston Peters is sympathising with Stuart Nash and defending him but dodging questions on whether he would be welcome in New Zealand First. Prime Minister Chris Hipkins last night sacked Nash from the Cabinet after an email he had sent to two of his campaign donors ...
So, after interfering with the police, and then interfering with immigration decisions, Stuart Nash has finally been sacked: Stuart Nash has been sacked as a minister, after Stuff revealed he had emailed business figures, including donors, detailing private Cabinet discussions. Prime Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed the people Nash emailed ...
Nearly 25% of mortgages in Auckland are deemed at risk in a 1-in-100 year flood event. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Once a year, every year, from now on, in our not-so-slow-cooking climate crisis, there will be a moment when the most important number in Aotearoa’s own personal, national ...
Item One: About a confected crisis Please bear with me for a moment, readers outside Auckland, I wish to sound the klaxon. Auckland, we have until 11pm today to have our say. About what? About this, as copied and pasted from Pippa Coom’s Facebook page:The "austerity" budget is built on ...
Buzz from the Beehive Yet again, the statement we were looking for could not be found on the Beehive website. Nor was it on the Scoop or Green Party websites. But – come to think of it – we are probably wasting our time by searching. Our quest is for the ...
The following is from a speech given by Arundhati Roy at the Swedish Academy on March 22, 2023, at a conference called Thought and Truth Under Pressure and reprinted from Literary Hub. I thank the Swedish Academy for inviting me to speak at this conference and for affording me the privilege ...
After almost two decades of racism, Australia is finally getting off its "stop the boats" bullshit. But don't worry, racists - Michael Wood has your back!The Government wants to increase the time it can detain without a warrant people seeking asylum en masse from four days to 28 ...
Last year, the Education and Workforce Committee recommended that the government legislate for pay transparency to prevent employers from secretly discriminating. This ought to be a bread and butter issue for Labour - discrimination sees women (and particularly Māori and Pasifika women) paid significantly less than men. But since then ...
Thomas Cranmer writes – ———— An unruly mob in Albert Park has catapulted New Zealand into the global headlines with ugly images that may become iconic in the debate about the dangers of transgenderism. ———— Bravo Kellie-Jay Keen. She did the job that needed to be done. For all the ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections Global warming is melting the Arctic ice cap, and that’s having unforeseen effects on the world’s weather — even thousands of miles away from the North Pole. Some climate scientists have begun to link increasingly common heat waves in Europe to what is ...
Hot on the heels of the demotion of former police Minister Stuart Nash for breaching the Cabinet Manual, Radio New Zealand has revealed the close links between lobbyists and politicians- an area of New Zealand politics that is completely unregulated. The evidence in Guyon Espiner’s series Mate, Comrade, Brother, the ...
At the Auckland Transport board meeting today a series of papers really highlight the cost of sprawl. For the last few years, the Supporting Growth work has been looking at designing the strategic transport networks for future greenfield areas in the South, Northwest, North (around Dairy flat) and in Warkworth. ...
Hi,Today’s newsletter is something I’ve wanted to report for ages, but I have been waiting on a New Zealand judge to make a ruling. That ruling has been made — so here we go.Enjoy.A scene from Mister Organ.Two Police Officers Knock on My DoorOn November 4 last year, I was ...
Only three days after Nanaia Mahuta had dinner with China’s Foreign Minister, New Zealand’s intelligence chiefs were talking about state actors interfering in New Zealand politics and using ethnic communities here for espionage purposes. Neither GSCB Director (and new SIS director) Andrew Hampton nor acting SIS CEO Phil McKee ...
In what has been one of her most important diplomatic mission, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta has opened the door for a visit to Beijing by Prime Minister Chris Hipkins later this year. Such a mission is regarded as vital with a new Prime Minister Li Qiang settling into office. ...
Saturday morning, we went to Albert Park.We were there to show support, to challenge words of demonisation.To repeat those words from Michèle A’Court:Making them sound “other” is a technique used by racists and homophobes to dehumanise whole groups of people who “aren’t like them”. If you dehumanise people, it is ...
Too Strong For The Law’s Web: But, if the USA is too big to punish, why isn’t the Russian Federation? Russia’s economy may be roughly the size of Italy’s, but it’s nuclear arsenal is more than capable of laying human civilisation to waste. Threatening to arrest Vladimir Putin - especially when ...
Nobody likes a fascist, except other fascist’s of course. Thankfully they were completely outnumbered in Auckland last Saturday when a supposed advocate for women’s rights, Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull aka Posie Parker, tried to give a public speech about how transgender people are worthy of persecution.You can understand why Parker and her ...
On Friday I sent out a newsletter called Posie Parker vs Transgender Rights to provide information about the visit to our shores of Ms Parker. I attempted to show there were multiple points of view but on balance my sympathies were strongly with the counter protest group standing up for ...
Brian Easton writes – Evaluating the recent crashes of Silicon Valley Bank in the US and Credit Suisse in Switzerland plus two other banks (perhaps more by the time you read this) needs to begin with a review of the inevitable instability in the financial sector. The financial sector ...
Oh, the irony. Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull has made a career out of inciting public hostility against the trans community, only to find herself on the receiving end of public hostility at her Auckland rally. In a further case of karmic justice, the people who brought her into the country ended up ...
In 1972, British soldiers tortured a false confession out of Liam Holden, resulting in him being given Britain's last death sentence. While it was commuted to life imprisonment, Holden was wrongly imprisoned for 17 years. Now, the courts have finally recognised that it was torture: In 1973 Liam Holden ...
Taxpayers are not only subsidising already-very-profitable private banks via the cheap ‘Funding For Lending’ loans that helped pumped up house prices in 2021, but are also paying the banks upwards of $2 billion a year in interest for cash kept with the Reserve Bank. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: ...
This weekend saw a showdown between two tribes of contemporary gender politics: those in favour of progressing transgender rights versus women wishing to defend their spaces. It’s a debate with huge passion, outrage and consequences. The figure at the centre of the clash was the British “trans-exclusionary radical feminist” Posie ...
Mutual Support: Democracy in New Zealand will not be saved by pitting Pakeha against Māori, but by joining together with every other citizen who still understands the meaning of working together to build something good that will last. Call that co-governance if you like, or call it something else – ...
Imagine being a great big business success enjoying your lavish Waiheke island property with infinity pool and ballroom and riparian rights and heli-pad. Sweeeet. But imagine, also, having to take orders from some little bureaucratic oik about how often you can land a chopper on it.I can’t, really, but it ...
Hi,New Zealand’s Life megachurch has confirmed to Webworm it was paid $10,000 by Hillsong for investigating Brian Houston’s sexual misconduct allegations.Following Webworm publishing this piece about the $10,000 payment, Life’s Corporate Communications Manager Phil Irons has confirmed what it was for:Paul [de Jong] was engaged by Hillsong to assist in ...
A chronological listing of news articles posted on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week: Sun, Mar 19, 2023 thru Sat, Mar 25, 2023. Story of the Week Q&A: IPCC wraps up its most in-depth assessment of climate change The final part of the world’s most comprehensive assessment of ...
by Daphna Whitmore I thought the #LetWomenSpeak meeting would be a good time to talk about free speech and why it is important for the left. Then the mob stampeded the open-air gathering and no one got to speak. Here’s what I was had prepared. Today I want to talk ...
MINISTER DAVIDSON MUST RESIGN AFTER 'VIOLENCE' COMMENTS Marama Davidson should stand down as ‘Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence’ for the clear and outrageous statement she made at the Posie Parker protest that ‘white straight men’ are the cause of violence. Her offensive, racist, and sexist remarks ...
In response to Newshub and Amelia Wade’s obvious and ham-fisted attempt at a typical and predicted political hit job. As any politically aware reporter would know, any Cabinet subcommittee has a duty and obligation as a part of any government to respond to any UN declaration, in this case ...
Good afternoon. Thank you for the invitation to speak with you today and in your busy lives turning up to this meeting. Forty five years ago, in Howick, often described as racist, and where few Maori lived because it had been a ‘Fencible’ settlement at the time of the Anglo-Maori ...
“This is it; 2023 will be the last opportunity New Zealand has to get a government that will confront the climate emergency with the urgency it demands,” says the Green Party’s co-leader and climate change spokesperson, James Shaw. ...
Political parties that want to negotiate with the Green Party must come to the table with much faster, bolder climate action, co-leaders James Shaw and Marama Davidson emphasised in their State of the Planet speech today. ...
Political parties that want to negotiate with the Green Party after the election must come to the table with much faster, bolder climate action, co-leaders James Shaw and Marama Davidson emphasised today. ...
We’re boosting incomes and helping ease cost of living pressures on Kiwis through a range of bread and butter support measures that will see pensioners, students, families, and those on main benefits better off from the start of next month. ...
“Cabinet needs to do better - and today has shown exactly why we need Green Ministers in cabinet, so we can prioritise action to cut climate pollution and support people to make ends meet,” says Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson. ...
Minister for Pacific Peoples Barbara Edmonds has announced the 2023 Pacific Language week series, highlighting the need to revitalise and sustain languages for future generations. “Pacific languages are a cornerstone of our health, wellbeing and identity as Pacific peoples. When our languages are spoken, heard and celebrated, our communities thrive,” ...
880,000 pensioners to get a boost to Super, including 5000 veterans 52,000 students to see a bump in allowance or loan living costs Approximately 223,000 workers to receive a wage rise as a result of the minimum wage increasing to $22.70 8,000 community nurses to receive pay increase of up ...
Over 8000 community nurses will start receiving well-deserved pay rises of up to 15 percent over the next month as a Government initiative worth $200 million a year kicks in, says Minister of Health Dr Ayesha Verrall. “The Government is committed to ensuring nurses are paid fairly and will receive ...
Tākiri mai ana te ata Ki runga o ngākau mārohirohi Kōrihi ana te manu kaupapa Ka ao, ka ao, ka awatea Tihei mauri ora Let the dawn break On the hearts and minds of those who stand resolute As the bird of action sings, it welcomes the dawn of a ...
The Government is introducing a scheme which will lift incomes for artists, support them beyond the current spike in cost of living and ensure they are properly recognised for their contribution to New Zealand’s economy and culture. “In line with New Zealand’s Free Trade Agreement with the UK, last ...
New Zealand is welcoming a decision by the United Nations General Assembly to ask the International Court of Justice to consider countries’ international legal obligations on climate change. The United Nations has voted unanimously to adopt a resolution led by Vanuatu to ask the ICJ for an advisory opinion on ...
More Police officers are being deployed to the frontline with the graduation of 59 new constables from the Royal New Zealand Police College today. “The graduation for recruit wing 364 was my first since becoming Police Minister last week,” Ginny Andersen said. “It was a real honour. I want to ...
Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta met with Vanuatu Foreign Minister Jotham Napat in Port Vila, today, signing a new Statement of Partnership — Aotearoa New Zealand’s first with Vanuatu. “The Mauri Statement of Partnership is a joint expression of the values, priorities and principles that will guide the Aotearoa New Zealand–Vanuatu relationship into ...
The Government has passed new legislation amending the Fire and Emergency New Zealand (FENZ) levy regime, ensuring the best balance between a fair and cost effective funding model. The Fire and Emergency New Zealand (Levy) Amendment Bill makes changes to the existing law to: charge the levy on contracts of ...
The Government has passed the Organic Products and Production Bill through its third reading today in Parliament helping New Zealand’s organic sector to grow and lift export revenue. “The Organic Products and Production Bill will introduce robust and practical regulation to give businesses the certainty they need to continue to ...
The Digital Identity Services Trust Framework Bill, which will make it easier for New Zealanders to safely prove who they are digitally has passed its third and final reading today. “We know New Zealanders want control over their identity information and how it’s used by the companies and services they ...
The full Cyclone Gabrielle Recovery Taskforce has met formally for the first time as work continues to help the regions recover and rebuild from Cyclone Gabrielle. The Taskforce, which includes representatives from business, local government, iwi and unions, covers all regions affected by the January and February floods and cyclone. ...
Changes have been made to legislation to give subcontractors the confidence they will be paid the retention money they are owed should the head contractor’s business fail, Minister for Building and Construction Megan Woods announced today. “These changes passed in the Construction Contracts (Retention Money) Amendment Act safeguard subcontractors who ...
Transport Minister Michael Wood has unveiled five scenarios for one of the most significant city-shaping projects for Tāmaki Makaurau in coming decades, the additional Waitematā Harbour crossing. “Aucklanders and businesses have made it clear that the biggest barriers to the success of Auckland is persistent congestion and after years of ...
The Government has passed new legislation that ensures New Zealand’s civil aviation rules are fit for purpose in the 21st century, Associate Transport Minister Kiri Allan says. The Civil Aviation Bill repeals and replaces the Civil Aviation Act 1990 and the Airport Authorities Act 1966 with a single modern law ...
A Bill aimed at helping to reduce delays in the coronial jurisdiction passed its third reading today. The Coroners Amendment Bill, amongst other things, will establish new coronial positions, known as Associate Coroners, who will be able to perform most of the functions, powers, and duties of Coroners. The new ...
The Prime Minister has asked the Cabinet Secretary to conduct a review into communications between Stuart Nash and his donors. The review will take place over the next two months. The review will look at whether there have been any other breaches of cabinet collective responsibility or confidentiality, or whether ...
The new Recovery Visa to help bring in additional migrant workers to support cyclone and flooding recovery has attracted over 600 successful applicants within its first month. “The Government is moving quickly to support businesses bring in the workers needed to recover from Cyclone Gabrielle and the Auckland floods,” Michael ...
Bills to ensure non-teaching employees and contractors at schools, and unlicensed childcare services like mall crèches are vetted by police, and provide safeguards for school board appointments have passed their first reading today. The Education and Training Amendment Bill (No. 3) and the Regulatory Systems (Education) Amendment Bill have now ...
Wānanga will gain increased flexibility and autonomy that recognises the unique role they fill in the tertiary education sector, Associate Minister of Education Kelvin Davis has announced. The Education and Training Amendment Bill (No.3), that had its first reading today, proposes a new Wānanga enabling framework for the three current ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta will travel to Vanuatu today, announcing that Aotearoa New Zealand will provide further relief and recovery assistance there, following the recent destruction caused by Cyclones Judy and Kevin. While in Vanuatu, Minister Mahuta will meet with Vanuatu Acting Prime Minister Sato Kilman, Foreign Minister Jotham ...
The Government is backing Police and making communities safer with the roll-out of state-of-the-art tools and training to frontline staff, Police Minister Ginny Andersen said today. “Frontline staff face high-risk situations daily as they increasingly respond to sophisticated organised crime, gang-violence and the availability of illegal firearms,” Ginny Andersen said. ...
The Government has provided Police with more tools to crack down on gang offending with the passing of new legislation today which will further improve public safety, Justice Minister Kiri Allan says. The Criminal Activity Intervention Legislation Bill amends existing law to: create new targeted warrant and additional search powers ...
The Government today announced far-reaching changes to the way we make, use, recycle and dispose of waste, ushering in a new era for New Zealand’s waste system. The changes will ensure that where waste is recycled, for instance by households at the kerbside, it is less likely to be contaminated ...
New legislation passed by the Government today will make it harder for gangs and their leaders to benefit financially from crime that causes considerable harm in our communities, Minister of Justice Kiri Allan says. Since the Criminal Proceeds (Recovery) Act 2009 came into effect police have been highly successful in ...
This evening I have advised the Governor-General to dismiss Stuart Nash from all his ministerial portfolios. Late this afternoon I was made aware by a news outlet of an email Stuart Nash sent in March 2020 to two contacts regarding a commercial rent relief package that Cabinet had considered. In ...
Legislation to enable more build-to-rent developments has passed its third reading in Parliament, so this type of rental will be able to claim interest deductibility in perpetuity where it meets the requirements. Housing Minister Dr Megan Woods, says the changes will help unlock the potential of the build-to-rent sector and ...
A law passed by Parliament today exempts employers from paying fringe benefit tax on certain low emission commuting options they provide or subsidise for their staff. “Many employers already subsidise the commuting costs of their staff, for instance by providing car parks,” Environment Minister David Parker said. “This move supports ...
Today marks the 40th anniversary of Closer Economic Relations (CER), our gold standard free trade agreement between New Zealand and Australia. “CER was a world-leading agreement in 1983, is still world-renowned today and is emblematic of both our countries’ commitment to free trade. The WTO has called it the world’s ...
The Government is making procedural changes to the Immigration Act to ensure that 2013 amendments operate as Parliament intended. The Government is also introducing a new community management approach for asylum seekers. “While it’s unlikely we’ll experience a mass arrival due to our remote positioning, there is no doubt New ...
The Government welcomes progress on public sector pay adjustment (PSPA) agreements, and the release of the updated public service pay guidance by the Public Service Commission today, Minister for the Public Service Andrew Little says. “More than a dozen collective agreements are now settled in the public service, Crown Agents, ...
The Government has introduced the Severe Weather Emergency Recovery Legislation Bill to further support the recovery and rebuild from the recent severe weather events in the North Island. “We know from our experiences following the Canterbury and Kaikōura earthquakes that it will take some time before we completely understand the ...
Further assistance is now available to businesses impacted by Cyclone Gabrielle, with Customs able to offer payment plans and to remit late-payments, Customs Minister Meka Whaitiri has announced. “This is part of the Government’s ongoing commitment to assist economic recovery in the regions,” Meka Whaitiri said. “Cabinet has approved the ...
More than 41,000 sole parent families will be better off with a median gain of $20 a week Law change estimated to help lift up to 14,000 children out of poverty Child support payments will be passed on directly to people receiving a sole parent rate of main benefit, making ...
A major investment by Government-owned New Zealand Green Investment Finance towards electrifying the public bus fleet is being welcomed by Climate Change Minister James Shaw. “Today’s announcement that NZGIF has signed a $50 million financing deal with Kinetic, the biggest bus operator in Australasia, to further decarbonise public transport is ...
A world-leading payments system is expected to provide a significant cash flow boost for Kiwi innovators, Minister of Research, Science, and Innovation Ayesha Verrall says. Announcing that applications for ‘in-year’ payments of the Research and Development Tax Incentive (RDTI) were open, Ayesha Verrall said it represented a win for businesses ...
Minister of Transport Michael Wood joined crowds of keen cyclists and walkers this morning to celebrate the completion of the Te Awa shared path in Hamilton. “The Government is upgrading New Zealand’s transport system to make it safer, greener, and more efficient for now and future generations to come,” Michael ...
Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Andrew Little has delivered the Crown apology to Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-a-Rua for its historic breaches of Te Tiriti of Waitangi today. The ceremony was held at Queen Elizabeth Park in Masterton, hosted by Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-a-Rua, with several hundred ...
Minister of Foreign Affairs Nanaia Mahuta has concluded her visit to China, the first by a New Zealand Foreign Minister since 2018. The Minister met her counterpart, newly appointed State Councilor and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Qin Gang, who also hosted a working dinner. This was the first engagement between the two ...
World-class satellite positioning services that will support much safer search and rescue, boost precision farming, and help safety on construction sites through greater accuracy are a significant step closer today, says Land Information Minister Damien O’Connor. Damien O’Connor marked the start of construction on New Zealand’s first uplink centre for ...
By Barbara Dreaver in Port Vila Vanuatu is in celebration mode after winning a significant battle on the world stage over climate change. In a United Nations resolution spearheaded by Vanuatu, the world’s top court will now advise on countries’ legal obligations to fight climate change. It also means the ...
By Jan Kohout, RNZ Pacific journalist New Caledonia’s Kanak and Socialist National Liberation Front (FLNKS) say they will tell the French Prime Minister of the Kanak people’s “sense of humiliation” over the last independence referendum. The pro-independence alliance is set to talk to the French state from April 7-15. The ...
Over four million people have returned their Individual Forms for the 2023 Census, Stats NZ said today. “This is a great milestone. We didn’t hit this milestone until 30 April in the 2018 Census. I would like to thank everybody who has been counted ...
The government's recent announcement of five high carbon options for the next harbour crossing has disappointed those concerned about climate change. TRAC, a rail advocacy collective, opposes the short-sighted decision, citing the urgent need to reduce ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Guzyal Hill, Senior Lecturer, Charles Darwin University Shutterstock Sunday will mark the end of the Daylight Saving Time (DST) in eastern Australia, but there are many who would like to see it last longer or permanently. Twice a year, New ...
He Pou a Rangi Climate Change Commission has launched a call for evidence to support its work on Aotearoa New Zealand’s emissions reduction targets and emissions budgets. This call for evidence is an opportunity for anyone to share information, data and ...
As the move to digital commerce continues, fraudsters are counting on consumers to let their guard down and to supply personal information. And according to new research released today by global payments technology company Visa (NYSE: V), which ...
The Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) is asking for views on which overseas regulators it will draw on for some hazardous substance assessments and reassessments. The recognised international regulators must regulate hazardous substances in a similar ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Emma Shortis, Lecturer, RMIT University Alex Brandon/AP Events often seem inevitable in hindsight. The indictment of former US President Donald Trump on criminal charges has been a possibility since the start of his presidency – arguably, since close to the ...
Te Hautū Kahurangi | Tertiary Education Union is ready to fight for every job at Te Pūkenga, as members digest a series of shocking statements from their Chief Executive on RNZ’s Nine To Noon programme today. Peter Winder stated, amongst other things, ...
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Radio NZ hack claims National’s dirty politics scandal merely a “beltway” issue.
Are Michelle Boag and Matthew Hooton writing their scripts now?
Radio NZ National Checkpoint, Wednesday 29 July 2015
Conservative Party founder and (until recently) leader Colin Craig has announced he is suing extreme right wing National Party blogger Cameron “Whaleoil” Slater for the campaign of lies and intimidation the fat man has been running against him for months. This cynical assault on our democracy was exhaustively laid out last year by Nicky Hager in his book Dirty Politics.
However, according to Radio NZ National’s Liz Banas, whether or not this brutal National Party operative is lying is nothing more than a “hard core beltway” issue. She tried unsuccessfully to upset Craig by firing that statement at him several times tonight….
COLIN CRAIG: …. Holding these guys to account is the right thing.
LIZ BANAS: But you’ve put things in this brochure that the public don’t even know about and probably much less care about.
COLIN CRAIG: Well I think it DOES matter to the New Zealand public that we have politics that is free from this sort of agenda that the Dirty Politics brigade run.
LIZ BANAS: Well I think you’ll see from the election result that people didn’t really take too much notice of the Dirty Politics when it came to voting.
COLIN CRAIG: I think it does matter the sort of country that we have, and the way that we run it. I think it does matter what the agenda of people is. It is our law in this land that you are not allowed to go out and defame public persons, for very good reasons. And I think that this is NOT a core value for New Zealanders, this sort of attack. We are honest people, we like a fair game and we like people to play within the rules. Good debate is good, a bit of argy-bargy is good, but having biased referees, or one team cheating, taking out an opposing player with a foul, that’s not the way we are.
LIZ BANAS: But it’s seriously beltway. I mean, a lot of these allegations people wouldn’t have any idea about. It’s hard core beltway.This is just for the people who are really involved in politics will be talking about this. As far as they’re concerned, you lost the election, you’ve admitted to inappropriate behavior with Miss McGregor, your party has imploded, and a lot of people would regard you as finished, politically.
COLIN CRAIG: Well, I think Liz you’ve said an awful lot there, but the reality is that this is a public issue. People DO know all about this, they DO want to know the truth of it, going to the court and having the court rule on whether these guys are telling the truth or whether I’m telling the truth DOES matter. That’s what political credibility is about, who’s telling the truth? Am I honest, or are they honest? We can’t both be right, the public do need to know.
LIZ BANAS: Do you worry that people see you as a laughing stock?
COLIN CRAIG: Oh I don’t worry about that at all. I stand for issues, I am who I am, and I’m very comfortable that this is the right approach to take with these guys who have been campaigning against me for week after week after week. I mean, it’s unheard of. This is unprecedented, there isn’t this sort of attack that’s gone on before. It’s serious stuff, and the court will rule whether or not I’ve been telling the truth. That matters to people. ….
POINT TO PONDER: It’s not as if there was a more competent and serious journalist on hand to make up for her shoddiness. Thanks to the recent purges at Radio NZ National, her partner was… Jim Mora.
Well RNZ now invite Jordan Williams, Michelle Boag and Matthew Hooton as regular visitors.
They are rapidly becoming another worthless news source.
RNZ is heads and shoulders above any of the other News outlets. I do believe Jim Mora is on borrowed time holding down the late afternoon slot.
The Monday morning political show with Hooton & Williams I personally find quite insightful and is a good summary on current political issues. Plunket’s Friday show with National cyborg Boag and Williams is equally as good, recently Sean gave the cyborg a real decent crack over the non Govt foreigner’s register, it was classic.
I’m not sure whether I entirely agree with this. I certainly do think that there is a disparity between the easy ride that government MPs (especially Mr. Key) get in the face of obviously and woefully inadequate statements in interviews on the one hand, and the belligerent but content-lite attack interviews on successive labour and green leaders. However, I also think that it is an interviewer’s job to challenge the motives and framing of any and all politicians that they interview, and try as I might, I can’t see any more in the above than that. Her framing could be more informed/informative, but I think the basic line of questioning is appropriate and gives him ample scope to respond.
Craig is being challenged to explain why his legal and PR campaign is a public interest issue, rather than a personal vendetta that serves nothing but his own satisfaction. Assuming that his info and claims are true, then it is in the public interest, but it’s still up to him to state his case and show the public why it’s important. Interviews like that facilitate that best, because the members public can hear many competing aspects of the argument and make up their own minds. I don’t wish people would stop interviewing Craig like that, I wish they would do more in that vein to Mr. Key.
@ Hanswurst Good objectivity from over there, good to have.
I guess it comes down to whether you think “PR” stands for “Personal Rachel”, or “Public Relations”……..
I thought the latter- ergo its a Public issue.
I think that using ‘beltway’ repeatedly immediately makes that person more beltway than anything they’re talking about or anyone they’re talking to.
That is a very good point. I have never heard a non-“beltway” person say “beltway”.
I heard Liz Banas name mentioned the other morning when I expected to hear Susie’s and I looked up but could find no Liz Banash in presenters.
Are you saying that Jim Mora is on early morning instead of Guyon. Do you know about changes? Holiday breaks? I looked up google for –
radionz management advice on personnel changes
and found nothing except headings about news not about the entity.
“No no no…. I understand that…. all right….okay…”
British state television frontwoman comes horribly unstuck on HARDtalk
Poor old Mishal Husain had her lines carefully written out—including such gems as calling a Financial Times hatchet job a “well considered piece”—but she simply lacked the intellect to counter Stathis Kouvelakis. What followed was one of the most complete humiliations of a BBC hack since Tim Sebastian’s 1993 trauma at the hands of Lee Kuan Yew.
HARDtalk Stathis Kouvelakis
It’s great the way you expose the media, Morrissey.
Some people seem unaware of how dumbed down the media has become.
For example, today, while Grosser and his Randite minions are trading away NZ’ s sovereignty in Hawaii, our miserable media has barely a word to say in this act of treason.
As biased as the media are, the Labour “opposition” is also failing us. Can you imagine the non-stop, hour by hour furore that would have ensued if it were a LABOUR government in Hawaii negotiating away our right to Pharmac?
Instead, the Labour Party leader talks about how he doesn’t like our national anthem.
By the way, the nasty, dim BBC hackette dying so horribly in that HARDtalk interview was Zeina Badawi, not Mishal Husain.
Darn it, Morrissey. Andrew Little has spoken out against TPPA several times lately.
The piece about the national anthem was picked out by the MSM of a speech he was giving in Parliament about the flag debate and used to trivialise whatever he was saying then. You of all people should know how easily the MSM trivialise whatever Labour says to keep attention away from the important stuff they say!
Thanks for that Jenny. We shouldn’t chop Labour down to miniscule over MSM misrepresentation. It’s good to be put right otherwise we don’t hear the truth only the manufactured litany of lies from the ba….s.
I noticed Toby Manhire and Sean Plunket yesterday getting affronted on Key’s behalf because Groser got testy with Key. The Notionals seem to have made ‘friends’ with many jonolists who are willing to write about Gullible’s Travels!
Peons of praise?
Fair comment, Jenny. I have no doubt that Gower and his friends have utterly distorted what he said—and I was foolish enough to amplify it here. I am, however, not convinced that Labour has a coherent policy on this vital issue. If National was in Opposition, and it was a Labour government pushing this profoundly anti-democratic measure, all the media would be saturated with the message that Labour was selling out our public health system.
I’m also still trying to come to terms with the way Little and his colleagues meekly supported the Government’s snooping legislation a few months ago.
By the way, may I say what a privilege it is to be handed a whupping from someone with such a distinguished Labour name.
absolutely NO relation to the distinguished Labour name, Morrissey – sheer coincidence – thanks all the same.
Try reading Scoop NZ News, Paul. There’s a very long piece by Gordon Campbell about TPP.
That is not Mishal Husain doing the interview. She is (from memory) Cambridge educated and very smart. Works on Radio 4 Today programme now.
Once was the standard bearer for intellectual rigour and objectivity and under fresh threat from DC and his backers like Wuppert etc
Paid actor, presenter gets arse handed ….
MP’s are paid actors too and in NZ we have Z list actors
That includes the NZLP
WikiLeaks TPP Expert Analysis on SOE Ministerial Guidance
Pages 9 and 10 list the questions that need to be answered.
“Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) Treaty: State-Owned Enterprises (SOE) Issues for Ministerial Guidance”
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“Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) Treaty: State-Owned Enterprises (SOE) Issues for Ministerial Guidance”
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“TPP negotiations threaten to forcibly commercialise state-owned bodies
The ABC, SBS and Australia Post could lose special regulatory treatment under trade measures being pushed for by the US.
Leaked details of the controversial Trans-Pacific Partnership trade negotiations, published today by WikiLeaks, reveal that the futures of publicly owned enterprises such as Australia Post, the ABC, SBS and state power utilities may be on the negotiating table in secret talks under way in Hawaii this week.”
Thank you minister tolley
Seriously wtf??? – check whether the predictions came true??? What is wrong with our society???
These kinds of controlled experiments raise ethical issues all the time. For instance trials of new experimental drugs – there is always a control group who don’t get the potentially life-saving treatment.
Or you could argue that now this study has been squashed – that NO children will potentially benefit from it now. Sort of like tossing all the lab rats in the bin.
I think this is different – not intervening in high risk cases to check the model is completely unacceptable, morally and in every other way.
The example used above of experimental drugs is not equivalent imo and therefore not a good counter example.
Sighs – the equivalence is actually pretty good.
All we have is a possible model of which children may or may not be at risk. This is the direct equivalent of a medical diagnostic tool – but until it is tested we have no evidence of whether it is going to work well enough or not.
If the researchers simply developed an untested social diagnostic tool to predict which children were at risk – and then applied it as an en-mass intervention on the whole population what do you imagine might happen?
For a start – how would you deal with all the false positive cases?
“If the researchers simply developed an untested social diagnostic tool to predict which children were at risk – and then applied it as an en-mass intervention on the whole population what do you imagine might happen?”
Isn’t this precisely the reason that new interventions usually are trialed on small control groups under informed consent before introducing them to the general public or larger group concerned?
But almost all interventions have negative as well as positive effects, so applying them to people who don’t need them leaves the negative for no actual positive – i.e. they can actually do harm.
I’m in favour of seeing if it works before leaping to conclusions about every kid in the country.
Which is pretty much what was planned. The target study group was going to be one cohort of 60,000 children born in one year, and thereby large enough to give a statistically confident result.
And therefore we can never do any studies, of any kind, with children because we cannot ever get ‘informed consent’ from them? That’s another kind of nonsense.
This was only ever a passive ‘observational study’. Whether it proceeded or not – the lives of the participants would be exactly the same. So precisely what are you asking ‘informed consent’ for?
Besides there is the practical question of the study needing to be of a significant minimum size in order to obtain a results with acceptable statistical confidence.
My understanding is that they didn’t want to intervene in high risk cases so they could ascertain whether their predictions were correct.
They didn’t want to intervene in cases identified as “high risk” by the untested predictive model.
That doesn’t preclude normal intervention when/if current systems come to the same conclusion – indeed, that would be one of the measurements involved in the assessment of the accuracy of the new model.
My understanding is that medical and drug trials should always be done with informed consent. Was this the case with the MSD proposal?
Yep, whoever dreamed that scheme up in the public service needs to be shown the door – it is way off the planet
Its like replacing the crash-test dummies in simulated vehicle crashes with real people.
Unless you can show that these researchers had access to an equivalent ‘crash test dummy’ model that would give equivalent results in this space – I don’t think that comparison works vto.
Eh? Too technical redlogix…
These ‘researchers’ were prepared to let people seriously damage their lives in order to observe that damage…. that is fucked in the head and smells of the third re1ch…
I can understand if the effect on natural people is minor and negligible, and repairs itself like a scratch with a band-aid, but not this shit. Its over the top by a country mile.
+1. Not least because there are any number of measures that can be implemented to improve people’s lives without having to inflict that sort of harm upon anybody.
The study has been shut down and the harm will continue regardless. You seem to have cause and effect arse about face here.
RL the study design could have been done differently to address the ethical concerns raised. For instance, a higher level of monitoring of the “high risk” group, with protocols for intervention in any instances where children were detected to be actually mistreated (whatever group they were from).
Remember that one of the issues with the “Unfortunate Experiment” were healthcare professionals who were aware that certain research subjects were at higher risk of developing cancer – but then doing nothing about it.
Again the ‘Unfortunate Experiment’ example is not so clear cut as you would like to think.
The original experiment design made reasonable sense in the light of the knowledge of the day. There were many aspects of this cancer not at all well understood at the time.
Like much medical research it made an easy target with the benefit of hindsight – and definitely Green should have been more pro-active about managing the arising cases of cervical cancer that did arise. But the issues were nowhere near as black and white as the popular outrage of the day.
Not according to Cartwright. Your interpretation is itself revisionist and made with the benefit of many years hindsight. Greens “experiment” was very definitely ethically questionable at the very least and bears remarkable similarities to MSD’s proposed study. Some people are slow learners.
And everyone also ignored the fact that Herb Green designed his study in the mid-60’s – and it was considered acceptable in the light of the thinking of the day. It’s completely and utterly wrong to condemn a man for actions taken in ignorance of knowledge yet to be discovered.
There was by the 1980s an extensive international literature questioning whether early intervention was necessary or was over-treatment, causing more harm than good.
Medicine faces a especial challenge in that the public find it very difficult to separate out the role of a researchers who have a role of studying illness – and that of clinicians whose role is to treat it. And back in the 60’s that distinction was virtually non-existent; it was absolutely common-place for clinicians like Green to also be researchers.
But that is not the case with this proposed social study at all.
It’s been a while since I read the book, but from what I remember this is not true.
It was against current thinking at the time. The ethical and management teams of National Women’s were not robust enough to challenge Green, and efforts by McIndoe to ensure care was given, and standards were upheld were constantly overridden.
As a female child born in that hospital at the time, I may have been one of those female newborns that were given a smear test – without knowledge of my mother – and without any particular research benefit. The practice continued for two years after Green decided the results coming from newborns were not supporting his theory.
The continual recall of women identified for “non-treatment” and observation was appalling. And they would have been under the mistaken idea that they were receiving timely and appropriate treatment.
I fail to see how you given Green such credit.
Most of the problems arose because by force of circumstance Green was forced into the role of both researcher and clinician. These days the roles are usually quite separate which makes these kinds of ethical issues much easier to manage.
Actually Green’s thinking turned out to be correct – that early hysterectomies and large cone biopsies which often prevented women from conceiving again were usually unnecessary; a conclusion that current practise endorses.
Worth a read. I accept that by current modern standards there are things he should have done better, but ultimately there is a lot more to the story than the narrow conclusions Cartwright came to. Incidentally I was delivered by Herb Green. I was a very late term baby and he saved my life. So maybe I’m biased.
And as it happened my family knew MacIndoe as well. They were all good people just doing the best they could with the understandings they possessed at the time.
Ahhh thanks for the context RL.
Well, it seems that the entire predictive modelling has now been canned which, of course, means that those children who are at high risk of being abused will now most likely be abused and CYF won’t actually know about them.
Gawd i wish the left was a bit more far-sighted.
What do you think a future Tory government might do with a tool that is proven to demonstrate that certain parents or classes of parents are more likely to be child abusers? Or if such a database listing those parents and families was leaked?
So far everyone is calling foul because we might have a predictive tool to prevent abuse – and this proposed study was not going to intervene.
Now you are calling foul because it might be used to intervene.
Damned if we do and damned if we don’t eh?
The area is fraught with fishhooks which is why careful hands are needed and careful policy too.
well the tool is inevitably going to end up scientifically justifying the singling out of specific types of households and classes of people who have done no wrong (yet).
Under a responsible and enlightened regime, that might be tolerable, even useful.
I think this comment neatly highlights an important distinction between a predictive tool based on correlational datasets and a causal understanding (or scientific theory) of a phenomenon – i.e., exploration of a ‘real’ scientific theory as opposed to statistical modelling based upon empirical regularity.
Correlational ‘predictions’ are not based on causal understanding (i.e., causal scientific theories) but on statistical regularities (which are often developed into so-called ‘models’).
Importantly, in construction of such tools the statistics to which the tool’s builders will inevitably turn are the ones already being collected (and which were typically developed to serve other purposes).
And that’s where the danger of using a statistical predictive tool exists, in policy terms.
If the causal processes involved in generating abuse are not being used to guide policy then interventions are triggered based on statistical probabilities embedded in the ‘tool’.
Here’s a revealing example. Being a young Maori male (as opposed to being a non-Maori young male) is correlated with criminal offending (it helps explain some of the variance of criminal offending in the general population).
A predictive tool to identify those ‘at risk’ of criminal offending could be developed based on that statistic (which is already collected and available in many datasets).
In fact, that ‘tool’ has already been invented and is, of course, often called racial profiling.
The difference can be put in stark terms: being a young Maori male does not cause criminal offending but it does (statistically at the population level) predict it.
For those interested, this is all part of the esoteric debate between those known as ’empiricists’ and those known as ‘scientific realists’.
Interestingly, much standard economic modelling seems to be of this empiricist kind and tends to eschew realist scientific theorising (i.e., production of theories that postulate hidden, generative causal mechanisms – e.g., such as William Harvey’s theory of the circulation of blood through veins and arteries).
An unfortunate consequence of that – given the leverage economists often have in the policy space – is that the public, and presumably many politicians, often interpret these economic ‘theories’ – i.e., statistical and mathematical models – as causal scientific theories.
But they aren’t. (Folk theories – appealing to ‘common sense’ – are sometimes used to provide the de facto causal explanation in support of the predictions of the modelling.)
That misunderstanding I think helps create all kinds of dangerous ‘unintended consequences’ in the social policy space – e.g., beneficiary bashing, retributive impulses towards those who commit crimes, anti-Maori racism, etc..
Fortunately there are growing areas such as behavioural economics, evolutionary economics and neuroeconomics that are trying to introduce ‘proper’ scientific theorising into economics.
For too long, economics, it seems, has relied upon Smith’s postulates about human nature as the only realist bit of theorising in the discipline.
Much science has been done on the general topic of ‘human nature’ since Smith’s time.
Until recently, that science seems to have passed economics by.
I agree entirely Puddleglum.
In fact IMO it’s one of the reasons that economics so far has been more religion than its acolytes’ pseudoscientific pretensions would have is believe.
If you went to the doctor with an ache and the doctor made a diagnosis solely on how your stats matched epidemiological data, your doctor should be done for malpractise.
It doesn’t work in medicine, it doesn’t work in economics, and it won’t work in social work.
Indeed. To use the crash test dummy analogy:
It’s like putting real people in a test car and sending it into a crash wall at 130kph, knowing full well the impact will kill them (ignoring earlier research), and purposely neglecting to first reduce the speed to a level that will not kill, but just give them a headache.
But why you’d do it that way – even try to give them a headache – just exposes 1) total lack of ethics in aims (and lack of education or skill in research techniques) , 2) psychopathy 3) really really poor science 4) being told to do it that way by your employers/funders/Minister.
Tolley must go, so must the so-called officals. They were her people. In fact, the whole fucking lot have to go, which makes the argument kind of pointless. Get rid of these psychos – problem solved.
Again cause and effect being horribly muddled.
It’s not the researchers putting these kids at risk. They are ALREADY strapped into the seat of life – and some of them are ALREADY hurtling towards the crash wall.
We are just not sure which ones.
But how is NOT observing these children going to make anything better either?
It’s not as is the researchers were proposing to actively intervene in their lives in order to set them up for abuse and crime. It really amounts to exactly the same thing as any other major longitudinal study – but with some predictions thrown in to test some ideas.
Social science is full of these issues because you really have no alternative but to conduct your research on real people – and the more serious the problem being studied – the more difficult these ethical issues become. That is why these supervisory committees exist.
But in each case you have to also include the impact of NOT doing the study as well.
Some screwed up negative backwards type statement/questions in there methinks RL, in particular first and last sentences.
Then there is this
“It’s not as is the researchers were proposing to actively intervene in their lives in order to set them up for abuse and crime.” ……….. Yes they were, from what I can see. They were going to actively intervene by way of active non-intervention
Sounds like you are familiar with these things, but I would suggest that if this sphere of study has got to this point then it has gone way too far down the rabbit hole and needs hauling out by the bunny tail for a severe telling-off
Yes they were, from what I can see. They were going to actively intervene by way of active non-intervention
And NOT doing this kind of study is a massive non-intervention as well. You just cannot have it both ways. This is exactly the same as many other hugely valuable research projects such as:
It’s been running over 40 years – and almost certainly it has included individuals who’ve been victims of harm, abuse and crime. Want to shut that one down as well?
Quite a different thing as there was no attempt at predicting outcomes before the study started and then standing back to see if it actually occurred. Taking a slice of the general population and following their lives (including presumably State interventions) is not the same. Can I draw your attention again to the Cartwright enquiry into the “unfortunate experiment ” which is a much closer analogue to this proposed study by MSD.
Now you are doing the pin dance.
From the perspective of the participants the effect of the study, whether it is passively observational only like the famous Dunedin study – or this new one where the researchers were also attempting to use the data to validate a proposed predictive model – is exactly the same.
The ethics of such studies is based only partly on the effect on the subjects. It is also based on the state of knowledge of the researchers. Do they know or suspect that an UNINFORMED control group are at risk without intervention yet CHOOSE not to warn or inform or intervene.
Again, this is why the MSD proposal bears striking similarities to Green’s study.
Do they know or suspect that an UNINFORMED control group are at risk without intervention yet CHOOSE not to warn or inform or intervene.
They have a proposed diagnostic model, but until they have tested it against real life they cannot use it in the manner you suggest.
It may for instance throw up a rate of false positives or negatives which render it impractical to use.
“They have a proposed diagnostic model, but until they have tested it against real life they cannot use it in the manner you suggest.
It may for instance throw up a rate of false positives or negatives which render it impractical to use.”
Which is precisely the rationale used by Green to justify his study and which the Cartwright Inquiry found to be ethically unacceptable.
But Cartwright had the benefit of hindsight – by 1987 it was known that early medical intervention was indeed the right thing to do. But when Green started the study in the 1960’s no-one knew that for certain.
Again I ask the question – what if it had not been the case? What if Green (and others) had not done the research and it turned out that early intervention had killed many women instead?
What Green did miss out was the ‘informed consent’ part. But again this was a consideration made in hindsight – in the 1960’s this was not thought of as so important. Indeed given the role of the placebo effect it was considered a simple way to ‘blind’ the study.
I think that’s misleading Red. I don’t know about 1960, but in later decades what Green was doing was unethical by contemporary practice at the time. It wasn’t the benefit of hindsight, it was the women at the time (patients, staff, feminist activists), who called the medical staff and the hospital on the practice and a stop was put to it.
That in the 1980s it was still very hard work to break the doctor is god ethos simply reflects that the culture was unethical too. But it’s not like the ethics hadn’t been discussed before that time. People didn’t suddenly have an ephiphany in 1987 about what was right and proper, people knew for a very long time, that’s the whole point, and that’s why we’ve had subsequent processes in NZ like the development of the Health and Disability Act.
I think you’re missing the point..
“It’s been running over 40 years – and almost certainly it has included individuals who’ve been victims of harm, abuse and crime. Want to shut that one down as well?”
If a researcher on this one see one of the subjects about to harm themselves and the researcher does nothing about it then absolutely yes it needs to be amended.
I think you can’t see the wood for the trees RL
That isn’t how these studies work.
The researchers are not hovering 24/7 over the shoulders of anyone. If something bad happens to one of the people participating the researcher usually only finds out about it well after the event.
They simply are not in the business of intervening – that’s the role of other institutions like the Police.
Yes and that is why I used the word ‘if’.
The point is that they are using existing diagnostic tools to predict in advance that a certain very vulnerable group is at risk and then proposing to take a “watch from afar” role in order to see whether the predicted harm comes to pass.
This is what makes this case so similar to Green’s experiment at National womens. He actually suspected that intervention was the way to go, but didn’t intervene and watched the cancer develop in order to develop data to support his case for intervention. (From Memory).
So Green’s alternative was to never do the research and hope that early intervention was the correct model. As it happened it was.
But what if it had not been?
Green had plenty of ethical alternatives. For instance, he could have told affected women that their case had reached an early cancer stage and would they like to exit the study and get treatment.
By doing so he could have avoided accusations that he was playing God with other peoples lives.
I’m glad to see you put it so clearly. There was an alternative, which would have allowed his study to run with useful findings and you have explained it.
The medical profession is strong on trust being important which comes up often when a desire for ethanasia to be legal comes up. But they will countenance some dodgy practices from within their own.
Green’s experiment would have caused a massive lack of trust in doctors when family concerned found that Green had allowed the cervical cancer to advance too far for healing treatment. Particularly among the people who had to arrange to go with Mum or daughter from the regions to the clinic in the city many times, at their own cost I should think, but always disruptive of family life and trusting him to care for her and advise the true situation, and ask for permission to delay treatment and explain outcome which was not done properly.
did any of these children volunteer to be part of the study group?
that is your difference to your group trying experimental medicine. The guys that are dying of cancer might volunteer for a new drug to be tested for a. a cure that will heal them, or b. a cure that may heal those that get ill long after the study subjects have died.
However, the babies/newborn/little children in this ‘study group’ would most likely not have volunteered or consented to this study. And as far as i am concerned if we know that a child is in danger of abuse we have a duty to call CYF or the police.
No-one volunteers for abuse or illness either.
And as far as i am concerned if we know that a child is in danger of abuse we have a duty to call CYF or the police.
And at no point would have this study stopped these normal processes. No-one was proposing that the researchers just let it keep on happening for the jollies of it.
All it was attempting to do was predict the risk of abuse – and no-one can act to prevent this before it happens.
The briefing note the Minister got clearly said that follow up would be at 2 years, to see if predicted negative outcomes had in fact occurred.
But this is different to not letting CYF intervene if abuse is detected through the normal methods, e.g. a teacher reports it.
Folk are acting like the study was designed to look at the kid’s factors at birth, then refuse to provide any social service or government interaction for two years, upon which time they just count how many of the kids are dead.
As it is, the lack of assessment could simply result in a number of kids being labelled “at high risk” when they’re not, wasting resources and at worst resulting in needless prosecution (false positive “high risk” kid breaks arm as simple accident, and the risk rating makes people more suspicious of abuse which changes their enforcement bias) while genuinely at risk kids are ignored.
“Folk are acting like the study was designed to look at the kid’s factors at birth, then refuse to provide any social service or government interaction for two years, upon which time they just count how many of the kids are dead.”
Can you read it another way? Graphic language aside that is a good summing up imo.
The predictive model is untested and possibly either not sensitive enough (so it doesn’t actually help in the prevention/detection of harm) or not specific enough (so resources are rationed from those in greater need to those in little to no need), so making intervention decisions based on that model is not just unwise but could possibly do more harm than good.
So no interventions should be made based on that model until its reliability as a screening tool is known.
Interventions based on all the systems currently in use would still be made, and where the model predicted those interventions, that’s good for the model, where the model did not predict those interventions, that’s bad, and where the model predicted interventions were required when they were not, that’s also bad.
Thank you that clears it up.
well – that’s how I’d do it.
There are real concerns with using macro data to make predictions about specific individuals, though, simply because the closer you look based on assumptions the more likely you are (and the more inclined you are) to find something, so it reinforces one’s prejudices rather than being a genuine tool.
That’s essentially the problem with racial profiling by police.
I tend to follow the philosophy that macro data can make extrapolated predictions at a population level, but you need direct case data to draw conclusions about individuals. But then this predictive model comes along so if a case worker makes a judgement based on the facts of the case they might have to second-guess the model. But if they do that, it’s on their head if they’re wrong, but if they just say “computer says abuse” their arse is covered.
I guess my issue is with the concept of the model itself and what it will be used for, rather than the testing proposal.
Yes the racial profiling is an issue and they can’t seem to help themselves in doing it.
“An unfortunate experiment”?
Except there needs to be some check that Tolley’s “interventions” don’t do more harm than they prevent. Given how intrusive this kind of monitoring of people who have committed no crime is, and the profiling involved, some checks do need to be done.
From what I understand, these families are going to be treated as criminals rather than given extra support and resources. It would be better to provide families with what they need, but this is not the ‘treatment’ that these families in the control group are missing out on, nor is it the default for vulnerable families or people in need generally.
If Anne Tolley stops anything on the basis of it being wrong I wonder what’s the real reason.
I thought the predictive model was to identify the most at risk of family violence or distress, and ensure that the family concerned had assistance through the difficult years. Presumably that could involve learning better parenting methods, and coping strategies.
But needed is understanding that concomitantly a lot of the problem arises from chronic poverty and people’s necessary accommodation to the way of life that brings. The money worries, regular shortages or absence of comfort and meeting of needs with no hope for better conditions would remain as the elephant in the room. That would not have been helped by this callous, irresponsible government system at presently operating.
Watching to see if the predictive model was effective did not have to mean, not doing anything. The government welfare arm is not a nature photographer or researcher recording nature unrestrained. Just watching and stepping in when needed, supporting and helping to a certain extent, then stepping out and monitoring the effectiveness of that help, would have been enough to provide results for assessment without the strict extreme required for academically rigorous proof.
That would have shown an honest willingness on the part of government and Tolley but from her past history, it has been observed that she is not a person who wishes well to the strugglers of our country.
We have an aristocratic mutation grown in our society, which is more the meritocratic model. And these self-satisfied higher educated highly paid people regard themselves on the one hand as exceptional and deserving of high rewards, and on the other hand as models that anyone who wanted to achieve the same lifestyle, could follow if they tried and worked harder. Contradictory thinking.
Now we have the code of deserving and undeserving that goes right back to the cold charity, unwillingly ladelled out with many strictures, of the 19th century. How we have advanced! Not.
Bloody well said.
“What is wrong with our society???”
The thing that bothers me is that this is now so deeply embedded in the civil service culture.
This one stood out:
“It attempts to predict abuse, welfare dependency and the likelihood of a child’s downward spiral into crime on the path to adulthood so it can better target spending.”
Why are they measuring is spending targeting rather than assitance targeting? They’re not the same thing, but I think it’s clear that it’s all about the money now.
Yep – all about the money. – better target spending ffs
It will be interesting to see this model with the indicators on it – I wonder what it says…
Do you have or have you had a parent or relative in Jail for any period of time?
Are you a person of colour or do you have a ‘Māori’ sounding name?
Do you know anyone that HASN’T been abused?…
What school did you go to?
How much money have you got?
Well if we want to target spending, ministerial expenses are out today.
Now maybe should we start profiling MP’s to see which ones will spend more time in the mini bar than others adding to the public health bill , which ones won’t find receipts or want to stay at only the best hotel which ones are going to have their kids brought up by the state after a broken marriage, add in a drug test or two so they don’t get paid until they are clean.
That way we could pick the one’s that don’t cost as much.
the thought that occurs is that, while I disagree with her decision, credit to Tolley for actually doing her job and making a decision based on an interpretation of what she actually read.
CF. the serco debacle where the information was handed on a plate and ignored until it hit the media.
30 July 2015
Will PM John Key personally profit from the TPPA?
Where’s my OIA reply Trade Minister Tim Groser?
Dear Minister Tim Groser,
I STILL do not have a reply to this now overdue and VERY urgent OIA request.
[Penny, you have been asked not use cut and pastes. Just give a brief summary and a link. Last chance. TRP]
See original OIA here: http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-28072015/#comment-1050873
We will all profit from the TPPA, Penny.
it easy vto, just close your eyes, clear your mind, say it slower:
WE WILL ALL PROFIT FROM THE TPPA.
Silence thought. Thought is all in your mind.
The National Party have good intentions.
Anyone can see that. Anyone at all.
WE WILL ALL PROFIT.
The fool is referring to the 0.1% . All of the 0.1% will profit.
No we won’t. The majority of people will be worse off.
Major corporates and their shareholders will definitely benefit from the TPPA. That’s why they are the ones pushing hardest for it. And keeping it secret.
They’re keeping it secret because negotiating in public tends to make negotiation difficult. That is why they have all been done this way since the beginning of time. By everyone.
Last year, we made a billion and a half dollars from the China FTA. Tax on a billion and a half dollars is about $400m. We spent that on shit you guys like getting for free.
Oh really TGF? So how come the teams of all of the top corporations in the US have seen/influenced the documents?
1. Prove it
2. Show where the money went
3. Show how much China has extracted from and or will extract going forward. Oh and illustrate environmental damage and other societal mess left behind by the FTA
Quite comfortably you are one of a most puerile posters here which is saying something
Coming across as a fuck-wit comes exceedingly easily to you
Coming across as a fuck-wit comes exceedingly easily to you
Thanks, man. Coming from you, that means a lot.
” We spent that on shit you guys like getting for free.”
And what shit was that then ?
Gormless doesn’t like education, healthcare, ACC or border controls, apparently.
Health. Education. Welfare.
What would you cut $400m off half crown?
Gormless wrote @12.31 pm 30.7.15
“What would you cut $400m off half crown?”
Try these for starters
Warner Bros. I noticed Jackson is still on the rich list. Hasn’t he done well assisted by the tax payer
Any sporting body who’s participants want to play at life i.e. America’s Cup. and once again hasn’t Couttss done well via the tax payer.
Pay down the massive debt (now at over a billion) created by that double dipping dickhead from Dipton giving tax breaks to the higher income earners who do not pay the same % of their income through tax avoidance.
Private schools, If these prats want to send their offspring to an elitist school to learn how to rule, don’t expect tax payers to subsidise it
Charter Schools, a dismal failure but still being bailed out by the tax payer.
Stupid referendum on the flag that nobody wants
Gold plated perks for ALL Members of Parliament for life.
Let’s start having a bit less of the corporate welfare, when the money should be allocated to other areas.
Nothing is free we all contribute with our taxes the only ones getting it free are the likes of Rio Tinto.
“We spent that on shit you guys like getting for free. “
I see you have used the royal “we”. Who the fuck are the “we”? More to the point who the fuck are you? You are not another non society Randian brain dead fuckwit are you, who thinks that you have some god given right and privilege and first go over other people.
I am all for no corporate welfare.
“I am all for no corporate welfare.”
Well that’s good news, Thanks for that.
How will Labour reduce our reliance on the dairy sector without corporate welfare, I wonder?
But when all parties to the negotiation have seen the position documents – why would you not release the position documents to the people whose position is described ? Todd couldn’t quite deliver clarity on this,
On the face of it this TPP directive looks to put even the Superfund on the skids forcing it to be run by private operators taking a bigger cut and even EQC to give way to the big insurance companies.
The new age of serfdom is just around the corner.
I missed this the other day and it was thrown back into my to view box on youtube I think after watching your video today Morrissey – So thanks. It raises some great points about the workings of propaganda in The USA. Which, I think we see here. I’m thinking the NBR or the herald are probably our equivalent.
A post from David Hood over on Public Address is rather technical but also disturbing. It seems that billions of dollars are entering the housing market but it is not known from whence it comes. He calls it Magic Money.
He also looks at the flaw in the “supply side” claims.
David says “somethings up.” Indeed.
It is a good analysis based directly on data reported to the Reserve Bank. I read it this morning.
The divergence between local mortgage funding and the funds tied up in houses over the last 15 years, especially since 2006 shows a bloody disturbing pattern of excessive speculation, and catastrophically in the last 4 years.
Unless of course some ideological numerically challenged idiots can point to funding sources in the local economy for hundreds of billions of dollars, I’m just going to assume this is from cheap overseas money piling into speculating mainly on Auckland properties.
In fact I am going to take a little informed leap and say that just at present most of the magic money appears to be coming from mainland China – because it is logical and backed by some rough but statistically valid evidence.
This isn’t a particular attack on Chinese despite what dickheads chose to believe. The problem is that there is nothing to stop people with capital that isn’t working much anywhere in the world looking for reasonably safe property investments with good returns continuing to pile it high in the Auckland market. The consequences for Auckland as a working city are dire.
I’d also point out to our numerically illiterates who were quoting David Hood’s analysis at me last week, that this magic money was what all of his previous analysis said as well. They just hadn’t read the comments carefully enough to understand what it meant.
I guess that I’ll just have to educate our local numerical idiots for a few years about the value of data and how to read it.
(if anyone hasn’t figured out that I’m annoyed by some of the blatant ideological stupidity I saw last week, can probably detect it now… )
So angry all of the time. Try a comment without using “idiot” and “dickhead”. If you put love into the universe, you get it back. It’s science, dude!
Nauru is going through a crisis with the President and leaders rejecting democracy in favour of direct, dictatorial action to suit themselves. Australia and the flow of money and the dumping of aliens in bad conditions on the island causing strain on the political system has probably tipped the balance.
In addition Nauru’s leaders looking round the world, have the example of barefaced dictatorial behaviour in Fiji by Bana….and the military there. There is Mugabe who has found a satisfactory system for him to grasp and hold onto power in Zimbabwe. There is the willingness for the USA to support countries with undemocratic political systems when it suits the USA.
The powerful democratic nations can surprisingly, act against encouraging the system of democracy in their own as well as other countries, with it virtues of valuing of individuals as well as groups. But the empty rhetoric about it continues while the undermining of it goes on.
as the social, economic and environmental conditions of individual countries deteriorate, we will see the process of democracy continue to get hollowed out or abandoned.
Breaking news! Whaleoil interviews Colin Craigs “Mr X”
[lprent: Looks like Cameron interviewing his cock – you can tell from its sense of morality.
But more likely it is just Slater talking to himself. ]
alternate link :
Would you agree the style of presentation suggests Slater really really really does not want this to go much further ?
Apart from alluding to sexts and how he is obviously lusting after the associated scandal-mongering that would ensue, he appears to be concerned with the prospective duration and the potential for exposure from the legal proceedings.
Thats the problem with bully boys like Colin Craig isn’t it, they can afford to tie up people in the courts they threaten people with the courts
Even the most biast, one-eyed, Whaleoil hater (otherwise known as the your average Standard reader) would agree that Colon Craig is just trying to keep his name in the public eye
A damn expensive way to do it imho and its going to come back and bite him in the ass
it’ll be like watching a chess game where most of the pieces are missing and only half the board is in view at any time
I hope it does go ahead but I reckon Colon won’t go through with it which would be a shame
Nope. I doubt if he cares enough about that particular role now.
I suspect that he has decided (like so many of us) that Cameron Slater and other similar opportunistic arseholes just need to be eliminated from our political sphere. They don’t add anything. They lie routinely about facts because they care far more for the look of things than reality. They cause a lot of damage to the local political debate. They don’t add a damn thing to the debate because all they are concerned about is destruction rather than construction.
Anyone sensible just needs to go a little out of their way to screw them over in whatever way is required to get them out of the way of the rational public debate. Flush them in such a way that no-one wants to try the same tricks again. Do the same to their rather disgusting apologists.
Does this make it clear enough for you?
What it comes down to is you don’t like them therefore you support anyone that wants to take them down even if the people doing the “taking” are…dubious to say the least
Puckish, that could be restated as saying that the cause for which you may have allies is more important than who that ally is. Lprent has been very strong for a long time about Slater and his actions. Craig has just finally come to that realisation when he fell out with his fellow right wingers for whom Slater is the hack man.
I’m just saying that championing people such as Colin Craig, you know the guy thats got his former PA tied up in a non-disclosure agreement yet seems to spread as many details about as his likes and Krim Dot Con is not a good look
And I’m ‘just saying’ that people who look beyond that rather shallow interpretation of events will see that the cause which both Craig and many left -wingers espouse is the correct one.
That common cause is the rat-bag actions of a sociopathic individual who is used by others as their dirt-spreader and purveyer of pathogenic politics.
You know, Puckish, I never read of many individuals who criticised the New Zealand government for having allied with Joe Stalin in their common cause against fascism and Hitler. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that.
Secondly, who’s ‘championing’ Craig? A rather loaded word, there.
Heres the thing though I don’t think Colin Craig is all that bothered by the cause so much as he can use it to stay in the limelight and convince the rest of followers that hes still a viable option for election
Desperate times call for desperate measures and this is hardly desperate except for those people who really, really dislike John Key
Its not a good look for the left to be cuddling up to drongoes simply because they don’t like certain individuals on the right
here’s a different thought:
As Colin Craig is reported as being a sternly religious person who obviously strayed off whatever path he was walking, perhaps the legal proceedings (he might be embarking upon) are a penance.
A form of redemptive service to allow him to reinstate his own conviction to his own beliefs.
I hadn’t thought of that possibility, I guess thats as good a guess as any as to his motivations
I don’t just dislike them. I think that they are dangerous and probably criminals.
I look at people and organisations as being potential dangers to our society and act against the worst of them first.
The conservatives I don’t like much because of their policies and attitudes. However they were acting well within the framework of political change systems in NZ. That means I will voice my opposition to them and their ideas, but respect their right to disagree.
Cameron Slater and the idiots at Lauda Finem, I view as acting as deliberately destructive fools who are too stupid to understand what they are really doing (read Dirty POlitics on the corrosive effects that they produce in politics). I also think that it likely that much of what they do is criminal. So I act against them as far as the laws allow, and encourage others to do so as well.
What is so hard for you to understand? This behaviour on my part must be pretty damn obvious even to posturing fools. FFS you rail against criminals here in a simplistic and rather stupid way all of the time as being a danger to society, in fact I have seen you do it today. You appear to follow the exact same logic – just because my reasons are a bit more thoughtful and less reflexive than yours shouldn’t make that much of a difference.
So your point is?
Well yes I’m guessing its not serious but it is amusing
This could be of interest
I did like Ross Ashcrofts comment
“Austerity is back door privatisation”
Mainfreight just attacked the government’s lack of support for rail on RNZ saying just for Mainfreight alone if the rail system was closed this would add 21,500 truck movements.
Stick that in your pipe Bill English.
The Nats really don’t get the long-term vision thing.
they do ….and it is lining the pockets of themselves and their mates….they want to privatise KiwiRail imo…and Goldman Sachs is there to help them,
Goldman Sachs advises Treasury on sale of state assets…and on private investment opportunities…Is NZ rail being starved of taxpayer funds so it can be sold off privately and made into a private rail network.? ( the way they have done in Britain?)
“Goldman Sachs is one of the largest infrastructure fund managers globally, having raised more than $10 billion of capital since the inception of the business in 2006.
The primary focus for GS Infrastructure Partners (GSIP) is on investment opportunities with the following parameters:
Sectors including transportation infrastructure (such as airports, ports, railways and roads) and utilities infrastructure (such as electricity, gas and water networks and conventional/ renewable contracted power generation),….
Labour needs to introduce an Anti- Money Laundering BIll…banks need to be on notice!
(Penny is right on the button to keep going on about the need for anti- corruption and anti -money laundering laws… especially as applied to what is going on in Auckland…It is no solution to Auckland’s problems to spread it to the rest of New Zealand )
“The “wall of Chinese capital” hitting property markets in Sydney and Melbourne will not ease up until the government introduces its anti-money laundering legislation, says an expert in ‘flight capital’….
The $US50,000 limit on exchanging Chinese currency into $US and $A was being breached in the majority of Chinese property deals in Melbourne and Sydney, and once the AML laws were introduced, the “wall of capital” from China would dry up.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/wall-of-chinese-capital-buying-up-australian-properties-20150628-ghztdf.html#ixzz3hFO1I1gK
( the same legislation is required in New Zealand)
Is anyone else suffering from Facebook’s attentions more than usual lately? I get two or three a day from them telling me I have more friends than I know about exhorting me to embrace and tell all to the world. FT. I don’t want to share every little nook and cranny about me so they can read me like a hedgehog in a spotlight, and be at my elbow guiding me to sites where they want to sell, sell.
Others seem to love fb and tweet. Yet as time goes on sinister things pop out of all these tech things like an evil genie.
Zizek says that there is too much smoothing our way so we slide or are directed along well-oiled grooves with expected levels of satisfaction, rather than stride around our domain and find and experience new things, have serendipity meetings and surprises.
The whole thing is a myth grey, a myth…
just like the myth of getting more work done by having your emails sent to you day and night – doesn’t save time at all, just re-orders it to intrude into private time. No savings or advantages whatsoever…
In the past in an 8 hour day, communicate 1 hour, work 7.
Today in an 8 hour day, communicate 3 hours, work 5.
Amply evidenced by recent projects completed which took same amount of time, money and effort as pre-email days…. i.e. internet communicatons provided no benefit to cost or time. Fact.
Just like we were sold the idea of speed and ease of eftpos – ha ha ha ha ha
Does you good to have a larf occasionally vto. Just a quick one and don’t burst a foo foo valve.
So can any lawyers on here explain why this guy doesn’t have a preventitve detention order slapped on him instead of a jail term in case he doesn’t take part in any courses and is still considered a threat when his sentence ends
Surely judges should err on the side of keeping the community safe?
Indeed. Lets start with Cameron Slater and the idiots at lauda finem.
The site is a bit slow at present. There is some clown in AWS east coast that has a new largish attack cluster that is a bit aggravating.
I got up last night to put a preventative in. However that just limited the impact, which has continued to increase today. So page displays and comments are a lot slower today. It hasn’t been worrisome enough to divert more time to..
I’ll be blocking the fool a bit more strongly after I get home, and getting their attack base shutdown.
Ok, that attack is toast. An interesting one to counter though. Almost worth writing a timewasting honey trap for.
Sounds like more fun than shooting tame lions in Africa for sure. How do you resist sending something nasty back down the pipe to fry his stuff?