Polity: The truth about the gap between the rich and the rest

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polity_square_for_lynnRob Salmond points out how “careful” John Key was in his recent speech when looking at how National has been “helping” the people of NZ financially. He and his government have helped themselves and their affluent mates while screwing everyone else. It is pretty clear who has been getting the benefits – since 2010 just the households with at least a hundred thousand dollars income. The bigger the household income – the more National helps.

John Key – lying with numbers yet again.

Here’s John Key in his State of the Nation speech yesterday, talking up his record on inequality:

Household incomes have been rising faster than the cost of living, right across the board, and income inequality has been declining. Despite what our political opponents try to claim, it is simply not true that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

Well, let’s go to the tape.

SOURCE: TREASURY / STATS NEW ZEALAND

This chart plots changes in aggregate (nominal) taxable incomes in various income bands since National’s big tax switch in 2010. It also plots CPI inflation over the same period. Here is what is shows:

  • Top income earners (over $150,000 a year) have been creaming it, with their nominal incomes up 60% in just three years, increasing by over half even once inflation is taken into account.
  • The massive majority of the population earning under $100,000 a year have been virtually standing still. As a group, their nominal incomes have out-paced price rises by a meagre 0.9% per year.

And if you dig further to look at those earning under $50,000 a year, which is still most of the adult population, their incomes have not even kept pace with inflation. Their nominal incomes have risen by only 5.9% over three years, while prices have gone up 7.7%.

The wording of Key’s claim that he is tackling inequality in New Zealand is very, very careful. He is dancing on the head of a pin. And, as these figures show, any gains to everyday New Zealand families are wafer thin at best.1

New Zealanders know that National is misleading them. They know that National’s economy, fuelled by a global recovery, has delivered massive income gains to very high earners, and delivered next to nothing for everyone else. That drives inequality up, not down. And his own Treasury’s figures say so.

 

1.National can probably construct figures that show lower income earners coming out a couple of percent ahead of inflation after tax, using data I don’t have access to. But those same data will show high income earners creaming it even more than the 50% real gains shown here.

60 comments on “Polity: The truth about the gap between the rich and the rest”

  1. srylands 1

    Interesting. Could you provide a link to the Treasury/Stats NZ data that is plotted in the chart? I can’t find it, and there is no reference in the Polity website.

  2. captain hook 2

    Dont bother with that. just check on the price of a 250ml carton of milk and see how much more it costs than it did when national first took office.
    This is a party of profiteers and scammers dressed up as reformers.

  3. geoff 3

    Do the CPI figures even take into account things like food?

    • Flip 3.1

      The CPI measures the changing price of a fixed basket of goods and services purchased by New Zealand households.
      There are about 690 goods and services included in the basket. They are classified into 11 groups:
      food
      alcoholic beverages and tobacco
      clothing and footwear
      housing and household utilities
      household contents and services
      health
      transport
      communication
      recreation and culture
      education
      miscellaneous goods and services.
      The CPI has an index reference period of the June 2006 quarter (=1000).

      http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/tables/m1/

      Dec CPI 1188 . In other words prices have gone up 18.8% since 2006 or about 2.7% pa.

  4. srylands 4

    It would be interesting to see who has gained 60% in the >$150K group since 2010. But a couple of observations, assuming that the data is correct:

    1. There are not many taxpayers in this group – about 20,000

    http://www.ird.govt.nz/aboutir/external-stats/revenue-refunds/inc-dist-of-ind/

    2. Strong income growth in this grouop means strong growth in tax receipts. Low income earners pay zero net tax. We need strong income growth in high income earners to allow the Crown accounts to recover and to avoid austerity.

    3. Many of these people will be employers, and the income growth is a reflection of recovering business confidence and a strong manufacturing sector – i.e many of these people will be business owners creating jobs.

    If we had an economic recovery showing poor income growth at this end of the income distribution it would be bad news.

    I would like to see a companion chart showing the commensurate strong growth in tax receipts from this group since 2010. Perhaps you could find that and come back.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 4.1

      You have two options

      1. I’ll find your data. $100 per minute plus expenses and I get to call you “useless gimp”.

      2. Go find your own data, you useless gimp.

    • vto 4.2

      Yep, it gotta be good when the top of the pyramid gets bigger than the bottom………….. what a ride, man ……

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 4.3

      @ Srylands

      I think you are missing the point – I.e. how do the angles of the two top lines on that given chart – and the gap between them and the lowest line and it’s angle correlate with:

      “Household incomes have been rising faster than the cost of living, right across the board, and income inequality has been declining.”

      The chart doesn’t correlate with what Mr Key says – the chart indicates that the opposite of what Mr Key says is true.

      • McFlock 4.3.1

        spylands always misses the point – why do you think he’s always ducking and weaving.
        When he’s not on a forced absence, of course.

      • srylands 4.3.2

        “I think you are missing the point – I.e. how do the angles of the two top lines on that given chart – and the gap between them and the lowest line and it’s angle correlate [CUT]”

        Sorry I was not addressing your point. No it does not correlate. New Zealand is an expensive country to live in. It has high costs for most goods and services and for most people, low wages. Most people struggle. Things have got better for most people over the last couple of years but I agree that the gains are wafer thin. If you are on a benefit, you are facing severe hardship.

        • Tracey 4.3.2.1

          “Things have got better for most people over the last couple of years”

          define “most” and then post your evidence. Even if the poorer have some more money in their pocket than say, ten years ago, if the gap between them and the richest has grown, isn’t the PM lying?

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 4.3.2.2

          ” If you are on a benefit, you are facing severe hardship.” – Srylands

          …And according to Bill English that would be 43% of the population’s households:

          “The lowest-income 43 percent of households currently receive more in income support than they pay in income tax.”

          Link to Parliament transcript

    • lprent 4.4

      1. There are not many taxpayers in this group – about 20,000

      Are you really so much of a fuckwit munter that you missed the words “household income”. You are referring to and linked to individual income.

      Perhaps you should look up the number of households and numbers of people in households with more than >150k income. It is rather a lot >200k people would be my bet.

      Let me reiterate that you are evidently a fool. How can even a fuckwit like yourself be so out of touch that you could state such a stupid falsehood without thinking that something was wrong with your numbers.

      • srylands 4.4.1

        “This chart plots changes in aggregate (nominal) taxable incomes in various income bands”

        Where does it say that the chart plots household incomes?

        • lprent 4.4.1.1

          I said it it in the introduction and John Key said it in the speech that was quoted..

          “Household incomes have been rising faster…”

          Since the whole post was about that statement and the cost of living that he was comparing it to, I’d have thought it was pretty damn obvious. Not to mention that the tax numbers make it pretty obvious. The effective decrease in tax for the wealthy from 2009 and 2010 was a hell of a lot larger than a mere 60%

          • srylands 4.4.1.1.1

            The discussion in the sourced website suggests that the data is for INDIVIDUAL taxpayers.:

            “Here is what is shows:

            * Top income earners (over $150,000 a year) have been creaming it, with their nominal incomes up 60% in just three years, increasing by over half even once inflation is taken into account.
            * The massive majority of the population earning under $100,000 a year have been virtually standing still. As a group, their nominal incomes have out-paced price rises by a meagre 0.9% per year.”

            At best I would concede it is ambiguous whether the data is for households or individuals. It is not pretty damn obvious at all.

      • srylands 4.4.2

        “Are you really so much of a fuckwit munter that you missed the words “household income”. You are referring to and linked to individual income. ”

        I give up. You are just rude beyond belief.

      • srylands 4.4.3

        “Let me reiterate that you are evidently a fool. How can even a fuckwit like yourself … blah blah”

        Goodbye.

      • Flip 4.4.4

        48,020 earned >$150K in 2011 according to the numbers I used.

        They represented 1.45% of the income earning population and received 10.33% of taxable income.

        • McFlock 4.4.4.1

          sounds like they could do with a closer shearing job…

        • lprent 4.4.4.2

          Depends if it was a individual or a household income. I think you’re talking about individuals. For instance my household income well exceeds $150 but my income does not. Lyn earns quite a lot as well. The difference between my largish income and mine plus hers in Auckland means the difference between living well and living too close to the boundary. It is a lot cheaper to share a space with some one than it is is to live along (as I did for a long time).

          Been digging around the household incomes at the stats department surveys. I swear that they are good at concealing their figures.

        • lprent 4.4.4.3

          …and received 10.33% of taxable income.

          I think you meant paid. But that was merely income tax. As I keep saying, income tax is just one of the taxes. I’m on a pretty good income and income tax is just one part of my tax burden.

          I had a look at the ALL the tax I was paying last year. I don’t claim anything back on PAYE, but PAYE is currently about 22% of my income because of the banding of taxes. I’m on a reasonably high income.

          But as near as I can figure out I pay about 4.2% of nett income on ACC and rates (all of which are taxes). GST is about 11% of the nett income (financial costs don’t get taxed for GST). Excluding GST – petrol taxes are about 1.8% of nett. Alcohol taxes maybe 2% (I don’t drive a lot, but I do like wine and beer when I have time). There are probably some sundry sales taxes for other goods and services so call it 20% of my nett income. So something like 14.4% of my gross income.

          Ok – so 22% + 14.4% ~= 36.4% of gross.

          Now if you drop my income by half and assume that much of my other tax burden remains the same in dollar values (because my consumption doesn’t change that much – same fuel/rates/sales, variable expenditure on GST and ACC), it becomes

          15.4% of gross for income tax and (complicated figuring) 25.3% of gross ~= 40.7% of gross (Note that the total consumption drops by about 18% due to lack of disposable income)

          The effective effect in real dollar terms is that with half the gross income, I will pay about 56% of the total dollar taxes of my higher paid self. Remember that my half pay is just below the NZ average income for someone in paid employment and just above the median individual employed income.

          If I add 50% to my income and assume that my consumption costs remain much the same as my current income (ie I invest for capital value or outside NZ), then the numbers come out at 26.7% and (more complicated figuring) 9.7% ~= 36.4% of gross. Which of course means that if I spend more, I’d get pinged more – but I’d have to have a cocaine habit before I’d notice it. More likely I’d hire an accountant and drop the income tax levels – probably by buying properties.

          At higher income levels than that, the total tax burden as a percentage will drop markedly. But more importantly there are a hell of a lot of people below the median employed income who pay roughly the same non-income dollar values as those at the median. That is why the revenue for the government from income tax is only slightly less than the combined GST and “other” (mostly ACC and various services and sales taxes).
          http://www.treasury.govt.nz/government/financialstatements/yearend/jun12/008.htm – see figure 6
          And rates are on top of that…

          Basically concentrating on income taxes as being the only taxes is a crock. Paying the bulk of the consumption taxes falls directly on those on lower incomes. Paying income taxes falls preferentially on those with higher incomes. The nett effect is that the taxation burden under this government as a percentage of income falls largely on those least able to pay it.

          Of course we could eliminate all tax lawyers and accountants, plus trusts. That would help to increase the amount of income tax paid. Or we could make the income tax system more progressive.

    • framu 4.5

      blah blah blah

      the bit your coveniently avoiding is that this top group you kneel down in front of have incomes rising staggeringly faster than the majority – thats the point

      all this talk of tax and job creation is bullshit and meaningless if theres only a small group reaping the rewards.

      ever stop a think that if everyone was earning more then everyone would be paying more tax

    • KJT 4.6

      “Low income earners pay zero net tax”.

      Forgotten about GST, User pays, petrol taxes etc, etc, again, Srylands?

      • Hayden 4.6.1

        He knows about taxes in Australia, where he lives.

        Anyway, how do low-income earners without children pay no nett income tax? The rebate for under $9880 was removed in 2012.

        • srylands 4.6.1.1

          Because they get more back through WFF and welfare payments than what they pay.

          The 6 per cent of individual taxpayers ver $100,000 a year, pay 37 per cent of total income tax.

          If you look at households, those earning over $150,000 a year pay 46 per cent of income tax.

          Households with incomes less than $60,000 per year pay zero net tax – indeed they get positive transfers. They pay $2.7 billion in income tax and receive $8.1 billion in transfers.

          http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/more-progressive-tax-system-2010-changes

          • framu 4.6.1.1.1

            yeah but who wrote it… drum roll… bill english

            • Hayden 4.6.1.1.1.1

              Yep. You might as well say “Bill English and 2 solo mums pay zero net income tax” if you’re going to calculate it that way.

          • Colonial Viper 4.6.1.1.2

            Well, lets increase incomes at the bottom end then, they’ll be quite happy to start being net tax payers, and you can be happy with that too.

          • KJT 4.6.1.1.3

            Like they only pay income tax? FIFY.

            Forgotten also, The average farmer pays about $1800 in tax!

          • Hayden 4.6.1.1.4

            You don’t get Working for Families without children. There’s kind of a hint in the name.

      • srylands 4.6.2

        Even accounting for that they pay zero net tax

        • framu 4.6.2.1

          Interesting. Could you provide a link to the Treasury/Stats NZ data

          • Pasupial 4.6.2.1.1

            Framu

            Don’t bother wasting your time with that Aussie shill (my guess is one of the Crosby Textor stable called in to fluff-up ShonKey’s flaccid words). The useless gimp last year used to demand that NZ raise its GST rate to 15%; which demonstrates how much importance to place on his words.

        • Colonial Viper 4.6.2.2

          Just like hundreds of NZs richest people, I suppose.

      • lprent 4.6.3

        He does seem to get fixated on and only on income tax. I don’t know of any group who pays a zero net tax apart from some groups of beneficiaries with very limited other income. For anyone in work and on very low incomes, the income plus consumption plus sales taxes and rates (through rents or direct) tend to push their net personal tax up close to at least 40%. If they have kids then they get rebates on the smaller income tax portion.

        Taken as a whole, the bulk of the people below the average household incomes pay the bulk of all taxes collected because there are so many of them. On average if they aren’t getting WFF, they pay a similar total tax percentage to people with very high incomes because more of what they spend on is taxed.

        Curiously pontificating fools like srylands never seem to factor anything apart from income taxes into their fatuous bullshit. That is because they prefer to feel as if they are victims rather than uncaring parasites.

        • KJT 4.6.3.1

          The “zero net tax” was a common piece of right wing lying with statistics a while back. The parrot has just returned.

          Of course, you have to ignore every other tax, and Government charges, apart from income tax, to make it look true.

    • aerobubble 4.7

      National raised GST.

      Look. You have businesses and they employ a quantity of the population. Now do you lower taxes and subsidize employment leaving most paying no tax, or do you raise income taxes (as many on the argue implicitly demand when they alert us to how so worthless so many citizens are in not paying tax). No. But its worse, as you raise employment there’s more competition for them and more consumers, that means more chance you National voter will lose their shirt when some upstart moves into their sector. Then add to the mix a shrinking workforce as boomers retire, and of course what would you expect from Key but to start drooling over education to keep from having a debate about the economy. How wonderful for the opposition that his dead ended approach to education is getting the backs up of his base, who worry that not only will the workforce shrink, but the kids coming out of the schools will be box like in their education, if, a big if, the tail has been dealt to. Which is unlikely since more inequality just put more barriers in the way of kids not less (school zones will mean more inequality in education).

      So National are a bunch of loonies. Its not about tax, debt can be washed out by inflation, because the dumb National voter seems to think its a victory to have less taxes, its not. Its the accountancy equation, you can cut into reserves (public services, assets) but it will show up on the other side of the equation as a higher cost to business (unhealthier employees, poorer educated…).

      The question is what is our goal, more efficient society and so economy, or more efficient economy at the expense of society, environment, resources, etc.

    • Tracey 4.8

      are you saying that the gap between the rich and poor has not become wider because there are only “about 20,000” earning over 150K (your 1)?

      are you saying that because we need growth of income in the 20,000 that it’s ok for the PM to pretend the gap between rich and poor is not getting wider (your 2)?

      Could you indicate when the current state of affairs which is not “bad news” will translate to a closing of the gap between rich and poor? Please feel free to post evidence from the past 40 years to show how when the top “about 20,000” earn more than $150k the gap between the rich and poor shrinks?

      Perhaps you could come back with that, which will address the author’s post, that Mr Key is being economical with the truth by claiming the gap between rich and poor has not grown under his government.

      To remind you, the Pm claims “it is simply not true that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.”

    • Mike S 4.9

      “Low income earners pay zero net tax.”

      How do you figure that one? I’m on a low income and I definitely pay income tax. So what bullshit have you included to come up with “net tax”?

      • lprent 4.9.1

        The idiot assumes that everyone has children and/or is on a benefit.
        Then he ignores all other taxes apart from income tax.

  5. KJT 6

    Not to mention a great many skilled people who were on the equivalent of 100k plus before 84, who are now on a lot less. My main qualification/job in NZ 40% less, adjusting for inflation, than in 84.

    The reason why so many of us went overseas.

  6. Colonial Viper 7

    At a guess, 60% of full time workers earn $50K or less a year. They’ve all been going backwards.

    An economy of the rich, by the rich, for the rich.

    • aerobubble 7.1

      It has been argued that people believe that the rich should get given a freer ride because,
      i.) they will be also rich and so feather the nest,
      ii.) that the wealthy will go else where and we will all be poorer,
      iii.) that wealth trickles down.
      Now we are now finding out that,
      i.) that only a fool would believe they have a chance of joining the 0.01%,
      ii.) the 0.01% don’t want more wealth, they can’t tell the difference between 12 and 13 billion, and well it will suck when the majority rise up and tak it all back, why not just stay rich…
      iii.) that the wealthy are not replaceable, which given how many also ran’s there are in industry…
      iv.) that wealth trickles down, oops, no actually the trickle down was the remainder after the minion class carry off all the fees and charges. The minion class are people who get rich by getting in the middle and undermining the wealth of both sides.
      v.) that it destroys not only families, society, culture, but environments, ecology, resources…
      vi.) worse, the growth of the last thirty years had little to do with the neo-liberals, the gush of cheap high density middle eastern oil and the relaxing of finance was implemented by both side of politics, its just the media whores who claimed it was the conservative revolution that did it, those conservative revolutionaries then set up themselves as being anti-govt lovers of liberty, except they lived in government and have overseen the greatest loss of liberty in recent memory.

      It must suck to be one of those Tory voters who have been supporting stupid all this time.

    • Will@Welly 7.2

      Colonial Viper + 1
      aerobubble – ii) – “the 0.01% don’t want more wealth, they can’t tell the difference between 12 and 13 billion, and well it will suck up when the majority rise up and take it all back, why not just stay rich………….”
      The thing is areobubble, greed is a powerful weapon. And even if an a rich individual isn’t personally greedy, those looking after the finances often are, so they want to inflate the returns, so they get a better return themselves. I think it’s at around $10 million that you start to lose perspective – personally I wouldn’t know.
      Oh, the trickle-down theory of wealth in a neo-liberal society, we soon realized that was just a myth, about the sametime as the wholesale redundancies started, as businesses started to close or retrench.

      • Colonial Viper 7.2.1

        Look at the middle class department stores like Macys and JC Penney dying in the USA, shuttering stores and laying off thousands, matching the dying of the American middle class.

      • aerobubble 7.2.2

        I disagree, yeah for sure peope inflate their value, rig the system, but here’s the thing, if you show them it actually makes them worse off, makes them a expose minority who look stupid rather than the genius minion class. Ah, but wait, that would mean you would have to admit that your
        defeatism, that greed is always with us, meaning that someone will always replace the greedy who get a clue. No, the only way surely to combat the greed is to expose it for how inefficient, counter productive and small minded it is.

        I found many many people who cheered tories on to be quite simplistic, as if they didn’t know how the money was made. We just have to break that notion, that simple mind adherence to dogma says they are sheep more than they are foxes. And when the masses start demanding higher progressive taxes, that wealth is not a right but a responsibility, then we might have a chance to save the planet.

        • Will@Welly 7.2.2.1

          aerobubble – so many in middle-management, and upwards have been “taught”/indoctrinated that greed is good and that is what they should aspire too. As I said, some “rich” people aren’t necessarily greedy, they have either inherited or acquired their wealth, but those working for them see the only way they will get rich is to grow that wealth.
          Many going to university today go expressly with the intention of getting a job that will make them “rich”, not what they can do with their qualifications. Our Government is obsessed with getting people into jobs that will directly “grow the pie”, and make them rich.
          Peter Jackson/Sam Morgan left school and went into jobs, which in today’s scheme of things would see them labeled as “failures”. That’s not a personal criticism of either man. But given the criteria laid out by Steven Joyce and John Key, they were “failures”.
          And even old Bob Jones will not contemplate their mantra – he refuses to employ people MBA’s. As rich as the bugger is, he refuses to grease up to those slime balls. He still believes in hard work. Could you imagine Key ever getting into a boxing ring? Nah – too f**king pretty.
          You’re never going to get everyone to agree that there needs to be an even distribution of income and wealth, but if we can get the pollys to start addressing it, then there’s a start. Saving a planet – well, you’ve got a complete different mindset there. Cunliffe still can see the drift.

          • aerobubble 7.2.2.1.1

            Tell people saving the world is good won’t change their minds, but tell them that better environments increase their house price… …its all about understanding the message.
            For a long time Greens believe Corporations were evil, though right, they stop engaging with them, but in order to change the world they need to make CEOs sweat. CEO sweat when they look like they are off the pace, out of touch with the market, and Greens do that by
            showing the market how short term greed wipes out value. The biggest story around is Energy and the black stuff is only going to get more expensive, by emphasizing this, and then
            expanding on how the growth of the last thirty years was misdirected, channeled into the
            friends of the right by big media, who never earnt it because the growth was going to happen anyway, and leftwing governments were going to loosen finance (and did like Labour in NZ) anyway. The problem was the debate about government was shut down, i.e. what is its purpose was submerged in a cult of greed, government was evil, taxes were too high, etc.
            It may not make people blood boil, to hear that 85 people own half the world, but it will if you
            tell them that wealth was handed over to those 85 by policies of Tory governments supporting the minion class who want to get rich not by growing the economy but by
            shuffling private paper around.

  7. dave 8

    cold hard facts just get in the way in keys world of bankers fraud and lies.

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    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    4 days ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    6 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    7 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    7 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    1 week ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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