Pull your head in, Curran

Written By: - Date published: 9:47 am, August 23rd, 2011 - 109 comments
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90% of Labour’s MPs are hardworking, principled, and bloody good at what they do. Cunliffe, Fenton, Parker, Nash, Moroney, Ardern, King, O’Connor, Shearer, Twyford, Davis, Mahuta. The list goes on. It’s the quality of these people and what they believe in that makes me support Labour. A pity, then, that loudmouths like Clare Curran taint their public image.

Here’s Curran complaining about the Greens trying to win the same votes as Labour:

And on another note, re white-anting; the attempts by the Greens to encroach on Labour territory is also happening in Australia.

Wake up, Clare. The Greens aren’t stealing Labour’s ground. It’s the opposite. Labour’s tax policy looks pretty much like what the Greens have been calling for since it was founded. Labour’s transport policy is moving towards the Greens’. The fact is, the Greens have been right all along, and it’s a great thing that the political centre and the party of the centre-Left are moving towards it.

The Greens aren’t Labour’s opponents; they’re its vanguard.

The worst thing, though, is the arrogance of this first-termer:

Hard to believe she’s meant to be a PR expert.

Like I say, I don’t think a couple of bad apples spoil the Labour barrel any more than a couple of bad MPs make the Greens a bad party or a couple of good ones change the fact that National is a force for elitism and incompetence. But it would be welcome if the likes of Curran developed some humility. She has some great local issues, like Kiwirail, and some people in real need in her electorate. She should concentrate on getting those things right and drop the intemperate online comments.

109 comments on “Pull your head in, Curran ”

  1. John Williams 1

    Eddie, take a deep breath and relax. No need for this.

    • Agreed John.
       
      Clare’s basic premise I believe was correct.  Rather than Labour/Green/Mana trying to devour each other’s support base the aim should be to grow the collective share.  And I am not sure why a single comment should attract such vitriole.
       
      Let’s face it.  If the polls are right and the left collectively does not grow its share we will have smile and wave back in power.  And this time he will do real damage.
       
      Clare is hard working and very down to earth.  She does not deserve the criticism.
       
       

      • mik e 1.1.1

        The greens with their silly narrow water tax have done a lot of damage and need to realize they also are part of the left .Instead of scaring off voters and antagonizing Farmers the greens need to be a lot more careful how they tread.The only thing that stupid policy has done has filled nationals coffers and also motivated a lot of very busy farmers to get more involved in keeping the left on the opposition benches

    • Deadly_NZ 1.2

      But Labour do not need these silly distractions.

  2. prism 2

    Claire Curran sounds like a very passionate people supporter. What’s wrong with that? And I couldn’t see the word Greens in the link which is about the high Australian currency and the disadvantage to Oz, and particularly the grief of over a thousand workers losing their jobs as they shut down some steel manufacturing. And I/S comes across as anti in the headings of their interchange. There can be too great a restricting effect on people by parties” codes of behaviour and controls on thinking outside of the square. Perhaps this is what’s happening here.

  3. gingercrush 3

    The signs were there last year about Clare Curran. They were ignored. Anyway I can only think pure frustration is at the cause of her posts. And I don’t think she’ll be the last one either to express such frustration.

  4. the sprout 4

    i always did think curran being in pr is particularly funny.
    it’s like if key were in the speech training business, or tolley in the business of imparting wisdom.

    • Funny Clare expresses a heart felt idea totally contrary to PR spin and people are criticizing her?

      I though honesty and engaging in debate should be rewarded. 

      • Lee Hong 4.1.1

        Greg loves Clare, we get the picture dude. Focus on the dilemma, ignore your emotions for a sec

      • QoT 4.1.2

        Micky, I’m sad to see you joining the queue of people pretending this is about something other than it is.

        Nobody is complaining that Curran said something “contrary to spin”: we’re complaining because she acted like Labour voters becoming Green voters is some huge injustice tantamount to “undermining” Labour, and when called on that attitude she threw a tanty and started using other people’s sob stories to get sympathy.

        I mean, that’s definitely *not* good PR practice, but that’s really not the point.

        • mickysavage 4.1.2.1

          QoT I am struggling a bit to understand the intensity of the criticism although I am the first to admit that I am utterly biased albeit I like to think in a well informed way.

          Clare says she has had a “gutsful of the white-anting of Labour from both the right and the left of politics”.  The Greens are not even mentioned. 

          And this is converted into an attack on the greens.  I am not even sure why.

          I know many of the local active greens and most of them are dedicated decent people who I like a lot.  There are a couple who see Labour as the opposition and this can make relationships difficult.
          And there is no sign of any flexibility between the Greens/Mana and Labour.  An example is Norman standing in the Mt Albert by election at a time when the polls suggested that the result could be very close.  Another is Waitakere where the Greens and Mana are standing quality candidates.  Their involvement may mean that Sepuloni will miss out and Paula Bennett will be re-elected.  Uurgh. 

          I suspect Clare regrets the tweets.  There are times when everyone should walk away from the keyboard.  Done that myself!

          My initial response was to Sprout’s criticizing Clare’s PR skills.  I thought that she was clearly expressing a personally held view and I always thought that honesty was preferable to spin.

          • QoT 4.1.2.1.1

            “And on another note, re white-anting; the attempts by the Greens to encroach on Labour territory is also happening in Australia.”

            From the link posted below: http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/08/22/the-importance-of-being-labour-2/

            And before you start, please pay attention to that giveaway word, “ALSO”.

          • Pundit X 4.1.2.1.2

            Mickey the only difference between you and Clare is the the degree in which your attempting to mislead on the inflexibity of the Greens and Mana. The Greens have only ever campaigned on the party vote in Waitakere and have attempted dialogue with Labour in the run up to the election. Mana will be campaigning for both the electorate vote and the party vote. Greens inflexible – I don’t think so.

      • mik e 4.1.3

        No right turn has a few vendettas to settle from the old days.If anything he has moved further and further to the right almost in the hooton camp

  5. marsman 5

    Clare does seem to be a very hard working and passionate MP. She certainly has been able to expose Joyce for the sneaky little rat that he is re broadband.Perhaps you are a bit harsh on her Eddie, I could not see any reference to the Green Party either. (?)

  6. Squirrel 6

    Eddie should have included this link http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/08/22/the-importance-of-being-labour-2/

    The comments thread needs to be read to get the full picture.

  7. Daveo 7

    Have to agree with the post, the woman’s a liability. She also seems to be so excited about blogs and twitter that she’s lost all perspective. Same goes for Trev. I think the two of them need to take a month off the internet. It’d do them a world of good.

    • Deb 7.1

      What amazes me they have so much time to devote to blogging as much as they do, if as Ms Curran claims, she is busy out there door-knocking.

  8. (not the) jackal 8

    sprout: comment deleted, identity hijack

  9. Deb 9

    I see the mods have been busy over there in the last half an hour!

    • Anne 9.1

      I see the mods have been busy over there in the last half an hour!

      Nice bit of misrepresentation Deb. Just had a look. Not a single deletion. Referring to your own attempt to contribute? Well, you’ve said something that has triggered the automatic moderator havn’t you. Chances are someone will dig it out and post it up in due course. But I think you know this.

      • Deb 9.1.1

        Sigh……..

        Just because you say it, doesn’t make you right. I rarely read and even less frequently contribute @ RA myself, it’s all too puff-chested and look at moie-ish. You can be assured that on the odd occasion I have, I have never been moderated in any respect.

  10. Anne 10

    I,too, didn’t think Clare’s posts were helpful. Gingercrush is right. It’s born out of frustration. Don’t be harsh on her, she’s a 1st termer.

    It’s been my experience that the majority of Labour members and supporters want a close and inclusive relationship with the Greens. What’s more they have wanted it for a long time.

    Please take note Labour. Please take note the Green Party!

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Green Party members talking openly about considering “Blue-Green” policies (albeit sometimes negatively) is an additional frustration.

      The Left will remain disempowered if it does not have MSM channels of its own to hold rationale, reasoned discourse through.

      It takes an MP 12 months to door knock a thousand households; or (and) 30 minutes in a TV studio to reach a hundred times more people.

  11. M Hill 11

    On a side issue, I am kind of hoping Greens in my electorate (Waitakere) think very strategically about their electorate vote…. Carmel deserves a win here, and it would be great to see Paula’s smirk on her face shrink.

  12. jackal 12

    Dear Moderator. That comment above @ 10:42 is not me. Please remove it and do not allow any silimar stupid imposter comments through. I will change my log in email shortly.

    Perhaps Clare should have chosen her words more carefully. I think she’s been very courageous in saying what a lot of people are thinking… The Greens are becoming centre left instead of a left wing party. You need look no further than their 1080 policy and Kennedy Graham’s comments on Backbenches last week re National’s food stamp policy.

    I usually enjoy reading Idiot/Savant’s concise posts but I presume his nasty twitter comments are born out of a similar frustration as that expressed by Clare. Too many people are believing the right wing spin that National is guaranteed to win. The internal political conflict this causes is one of the reasons Steven Joyce “loaned” $43 million to Mediaworks, to portray a falsehood.

    Perhaps the twitter timeline is slightly wrong. Clare says it’s not about her, it’s about the people who are desperate. Idiot/Savant then throws that in her face, incorrectly saying that Clare is demanding he serve and obey her. It’s a small inconsistent outburst of stupidity. An invitation is not an order.

    The Greens aren’t Labour’s opponent’s, it’s about time some Green supporters realized that.

    • QoT 12.1

      Dude, really? I don’t think it’s the *Greens* who have to realise they aren’t Labour’s opponents. As in, it wasn’t Russel Norman on Frogblog talking about “white-anting”.

      • thejackal 12.1.1

        That’s rather cryptic… I’m not sure I understand exactly what you mean QoT? I don’t think you’re one to lecture though, being all too ready to undermine the Labour Greens relationship yourself.

        • QoT 12.1.1.1

          How is that cryptic? It isn’t the Greens who need to figure out that Labour and Greens aren’t enemies … it’s Labour.

          The idea that I have any power to “undermine the Labour Greens relationship” is a fucking laugh, mate. But please, keep trying to use that whole “shut up, YOU’RE the real person who’s trying to be divisive towards other members of the left!!!” argument, it’s really persuading me that Labour supporters aren’t entitled shits.

          • thejackal 12.1.1.1.1

            I said “Green supporters” QoT. I’m talking about a few Green’s supporters who don’t think a relationship with Labour is worthwhile, and undermine that relationship. I’m not speaking for the party and I simply made an observation, I didn’t tell you to shut up.

            I very much doubt there’s any white-anting within the Green’s. I also don’t think Clare’s comments have undermined the Labour party in the least. A belief of perspective perhaps.

            If you don’t think you’ve any power to change things, why do you blog QoT? Some Labour supporters might be “entitled shits”, but this would be a slim minority. Tarred everything with the same brush lately?

            • QoT 12.1.1.1.1.1

              Oh, fine. Then it’s time Labour supporters (and apparently MPs) realised the Greens aren’t the enemy. Have your semantic victory late on a Friday night.

              Another thing I’m over, btw? People who want to attack me demanding I justify my choice to blog to them. Not going to be fit into a nice neat box so you can tell me exactly how I’m doing it wrong and destroying the progressive movement, sorry.

              • thejackal

                I don’t think martyrdom is going to win you this debate QoT. Neither is dismissing your writing as having no impact and then ironically saying that you’re destroying the progressive movement, a contention I never made. You will note that you questioned my assertion above, thus instigating the debate. Questioning your comment is not an attack. As for fitting into a nice neat box, straw-man!

                • QoT

                  Questioning my comment isn’t an attack, sure. But demanding, as many have done before you, to know “why I blog unless it’s [to do what you want to categorise blogging as doing so you can say I’m doing it wrong]” is.

                  Forgive my hyperbole. It’s this common literary technique for illustrating that your assertion about my Evil Plot To Achieve World Domination By Pointing Out When Labour MPs Are Shitting On The Greens Yet Again (whoops, did it again) is stupid.

                  • thejackal

                    You’ve lost me again QoT. Having an opinion is not telling you that you’re “doing it wrong.” Personalizing things is not helpful to the debate. Blogging can change things for the better, that’s why I write. Your motivation is obviously different to mine. Pointing out a contradiction within your argument is not stupid! But your further hyperbolic contention is.

                    When Eddie writes that the Green’s have been right all along re tax policy, I totally agree. There’s nothing wrong with Labour moving to adopt Green’s policies. However they justify that in their own minds is also OK by me, and I believe that is where our beliefs differ. If for instance National adopts the Greens policy on child poverty, and say it was theirs all along, I’m not going to jump up and down about it, I’m going to say “about bloody time.” Basically, don’t let politics get in the way of doing what’s right.

                    I think there’s a political advantage sometimes in treating your natural enemies as your friends and vice versa. I don’t think that presently applies between the Greens and Labour. Personally I don’t believe continued opposition is beneficial, as there’s too much effort wasted. That’s one of the reason’s parliament is stagnant and not progressing New Zealand. The current political system is presently making things go backwards.

                    • MirrorMirror

                      Your not alone, I’m here.

                      I’m your friend; if you want a best friend, look no further.

                      I am just right here.

                      No strings- just helping my other half, as you do.

                      Do you want to know a secret- this is real- but you and I are the same soul.

                      It’s the truth.

    • mik e 12.2

      What clare is saying if you really care about the cause come along and help the real people

  13. Gina 13

    Can the Moderator ( is iprent around ) please discipline “Jackal”

    Jackal

    I have noticed you left some very abusive comments on Travellerev’s blog “Aoteraroa a wider perspective”. Your icon and name are identical.

    http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/

    Perhaps they could be explained if there was a single piece of discussion mixed with the abuse but they are totally abusive.

    I’m really pleased Travellerev published them as it exposes what you are.

    Travellerev is a long term regular commenter here and has clearly being targeted by you for abuse.

    i.e. A singular “Eat my ass !” is the tamest of Jackal’s comments on her blog.

    The idea that people can comment here then follow our links and abuse us is creepy.

    • jackal 13.1

      I’m amused that somebody views me as such a threat as to try and besmirch my character by impersonation. I assume a right wing blogger is behind such childishness. Please try to keep on topic Gina.

      • travellerev 13.1.1

        Are you trying to tell me you did not leave those comments on my blog J?

        • thejackal 13.1.1.1

          That’s right travellerev. I apologies for any offense, but it was an impersonator. I’ve never commented on your blog site. Please feel free to remove them.

    • Gina 13.2

      I like Claire Curran. She’s one reason I would vote labour. Let free speech rule please, our democracy is going down the tubes far to quickly. Im beginning to think we should scrap parties and just have MP’s. Stuff party loyalty. Lets have vigorous non personal debate.

      • the sprout 13.2.1

        it seems the earlier comment under jackal’s name was not in fact by jackal but an identity highjacker.

        • thejackal 13.2.1.1

          Hi Sprout. Thanks for your quick edit. I have created a new account, please ban the old one.
          [Done – r0b]
          [lprent: Not sure who that was from the IP. It was a dynamic ADSL from iHug in Auckland (I’m tempted to lodge a complaint with them). Whoever it was had the correct e-mail address. It is likely to have come directly or indirectly from someone running a blog site that you have commented on. ]

          • thejackal 13.2.1.1.1

            Thanks for that. I would appreciate a copy of the info you have as I would like to lodge a complaint with iHug.

            • travellerev 13.2.1.1.1.1

              Wow, I just got on my blog. ROFL. Almost choked on my coffee. I’ll remove them and keep an eye out for this. I also had someone impersonating Mallard a couple of weeks ago.

          • travellerev 13.2.1.1.2

            Hi Jackal,
            I thought it was you at first because it started about two weeks ago on my blog and I just left the comments feeling somewhat puzzled. I have send them to the spam filter and hope this doesn’t cause any problems for you. I have collected three different IP addresses and will send them to Iprent via the Standard contact form. I would be happy to lodge a complaint too. 
            We must be doing something right for these idiots to become so blatant eh?

        • Gina 13.2.1.2

          OK Thanks Sprout. it is something a wing-nut would do.

    • lprent 13.3

      It was a completely different IP to any that the jackal uses. The sprout fixed it.

      Someone knows the jackals e-mail.

    • Thanks for your words on my behalf Gina but it seems we have a nasty impostor on our hands. On my blog it now seems two more identities have been hijacked and used to spout abuse. One of them being Mallard no less.

  14. ianmac 14

    Our local MP just regurgitates manicured Central Office stuff. Everything published by the Right is manicured and sanitised.
    Clare writes her own stuff and somehow it sounds credible warts and all.
    Are we becoming so used to MP sanitation that we are shocked when faced with the real raw stuff?

  15. Afewknowthetruth 15

    ‘90% of Labour’s MPs are hardworking, principled, and bloody good at what they do.’

    Well that must rate as the best joke of the day!

    The people listed have been repeatedly provided with information vital to the planning of the future of NZ, and they have consistently ignored it and have supported policies that are totally dysfunctional: hence the mess we are in now.

    My personal experience in dealing with Labour MPs, that is Helen Clark, Michael Cullen, Paul Swain, Pete Hogson, David Parker, Trevor Mallard, Harry Duynhoven and Ross Robertson in particular, is that they don’t want to know about anything that challenges their positions of comfort, complacency and ignorance.

    In fact several have been downright decietful.

    • grumpy 15.1

      AFKTT, for Christ’s sake!!! They’re politicians aren’t they????

      Anyway Clare Curran is one of Labour’s better performers. Can’t the left see that there are only a certain percentage of left votes in the country and if Green cannibalise Labour’s votes, that is a few Labour MPs out of a job and in any future (but unlikely) coalition a lot less influence for any that are left.

      CV has made one good comment but seems quite docile on this one, pity because CV is one of Labour’s better commentators here…..

      • grumpy 15.1.1

        I take it back!! She’s lost the plot!

        I just looked at Lanth’s Stuff link. Clare blames the CHINESE for taking 1000 jobs from Aussie steel workers.

        Bullshit, it’s the Aussies own fault for not equipping their steel mills with the “magic chimneys” that China has that have zero carbon emissions.

        Look for more businesses moving to China to take advantage of their technology. (I hear that NZ cows – when exported to China also have no more methane belches).

      • Idiot/Savant 15.1.2

        Anyway Clare Curran is one of Labour’s better performers. Can’t the left see that there are only a certain percentage of left votes in the country and if Green cannibalise Labour’s votes, that is a few Labour MPs out of a job and in any future (but unlikely) coalition a lot less influence for any that are left

        And correspondingly more for the Greens. Whether this is a Bad Thing or not depends on which policy mix you prefer.

        But look, if Labour is concerned about its voters being “cannibalised” by the Greens, they can fight for those votes, and offer policies which will attract them. If they don’t, they’ve got no-one to blame but themselves.

        • grumpy 15.1.2.1

          Or, they can move more to the right and pick up those “swing voters”. If, as suggested, Annette King gets rolled for Shane Jones, that will be an indication.

          I think there are more votes for Labour from the right than the left but both options are mutually exclusive.

          • McFlock 15.1.2.1.1

            Okay, suppressing my knee-jerk left reaction to the suggestion, my perceptiion is that the trouble labour is in now is *because* they went right and tried to satisfy both camps, pleasing none.
              
            If half your votes are “floating” because you moderated your principles, then you lose a chunk X off the other end – votes you could previously rely on. In 2008 National ran a labour-lite campaign. Now they’re in trouble because they slipped the political continuum leftwards and the people they relied on as the bookend right (ACT) are in deep schtuck.
             
            Labour needs to provide substance, and the CGT is agood start. The more they do of that, the more National will look shallow.
             

            • Colonial Viper 15.1.2.1.1.1

              The National-Lite approach is a disaster for Labour.

              Where is the real political economic positioning here.

              A slightly gentler, kinder version of free market economics? Yeah right.

              Massive changes need to be made to:
              – Our banking/finance/monetary system
              – The free market system (a free market for goods and services of safe standard is fine, a free market for capital and labour is not),
              – Increase the ability for families to be sustained on one income, and for people to sustain themselves on 3 day (24 working hour) weeks.
              – The valuation and facilitation of unpaid work and work not done for profit.
              – Sustainable energy policy.

              Not tinkering, I mean massive changes.

            • mik e 15.1.2.1.1.2

              mcflock ACT are there to dog whistle to make key look moderate thats all they will be able to do with dinosaur don

              • McFlock

                Yes, but without them Key does not look moderate or “middle of the road” or “reasonable” or “a good guy”. He looks like the right wing, profiteering, gambling slickster that he is.
                  
                And, frankly, (because I’ve had a few), fuck that lying prick. His government kills people by inaction. Most of his ministers are incompetent and oblivious, but I think he really knows it. Fuck him.
                   
                   
                     
                     
                     

                           
                         
                     
                   
                   

    • johnm 15.2

      Hi AFKTT
      Yes they get used to their privileged positions.They are incapable of thinking outside the current paradigm box:and they are elected not to do so:the heroic confrontation of new realities is not their concern they are stewards of the current order. Conformity and respectability are their concerns and pandering to the delusions of the NZ electorate. If they seriously addressed contraction and energy and environmental decline their constituencies would howl in outraged betrayal: “We did not elect you to tell us nasty truths,but to keep our comfortable lives on track!”

      • Afewknowthetruth 15.2.1

        johnm

        Yes. Politicians are custodians of the status quo with absolutely no vision whatsoever. Having steered the Titianic into the iceberg, all they know is “Full steam ahead’. Ludicrous really.

        Of course, the great irony is that every day that passes politicians of all parties dig a deeper hole for the nation and dig deeper holes for themselves, so the ‘howl in outraged betrayal’ will be louder and more bloody when it comes, when the general populace finally does figure out the extent they have been lied to.

        Now that IS something to look forward to!

        Not long to wait now, I suspect. I see gold is $1908 and oil is down because economies are collapsing all over the place.

        • Lanthanide 15.2.1.1

          “oil is down because economies are collapsing all over the place.”

          Oil is down because Gaddafi’s regime in Libya is crumbling and so the market is anticipating increases of oil flows in the coming months.

          • Bored 15.2.1.1.1

            Oil has pre Peak tracked industrial supply / consumer demand. Collapsing consumer demand is reflected in the current oil price BUT supply versus demand is keeping the price up. What that means is that as supply decreases economies will shrink through inability to produce, unemployment will increase and consumer demand diminish.

            The question is whether demand will fall as fast as supply? That is highly unlikely so the price will fluctuate wildly, but be generally high.

            Gaddafis Lybia and their oil production are relatively minor on a world scale, increased oil flows from them will make very little impact on supply and price.

            • Lanthanide 15.2.1.1.1.1

              Libya was previously supplying 1.6M barrels/day, about 2% of the world’s production.

              That being taken off the market is what has lead to the large price gap between Brent and TWI, because the exports went to Europe.

              • Bored

                Which if there was high demand would be a huge problem. There isnt so its not. Seems the supply issues are currently being buffered by the financial crisis and consumption is severely depressed. Welcome to the yoyo effect…..gonna be a fun ride.

              • Colonial Viper

                That being taken off the market is what has lead to the large price gap between Brent and TWI, because the exports went to Europe.

                No, what has led to the price gap between Brent and TWI is all encompassing market manipulation and the fact that most of the volume of oil traded in the world goes through dark pool exchanges.

                If you check, you will see that WTI prices have been going up and up and up…even as WTI inventories have been going up and up and up. Pure market manipulation. BTW Goldman Sachs and JPM own (rent) huge oil storage facilities around the world.

                Oil is down because Gaddafi’s regime in Libya is crumbling and so the market is anticipating increases of oil flows in the coming months.

                No fraking way. You cannot tell me that today’s oil price is down because Libya MIGHT be able to resume its former production levels in 6 months time (given that fighting in Tripoli has not ceased yet).

                You might have a case for saying contracts for January and February are down because of an improved Libyan supply outlook, but anything more than that is fanciful IMO.

            • mik e 15.2.1.1.1.2

              bored I listened to BBC world the other night and they say alqieda is going to make life very difficult in Libya so there might be a short term drop in oil prices but it won’t be very long

              • Colonial Viper

                Apart from the fact that there is no such thing as ‘Al Qieda’. It appears to me to be a label that the west dreamt up to group together a bunch of extremely disparate and unco-ordinated outfits for ease of media purposes.

    • Rodel 15.3

      What rubbish, ..” my personal experience…etc.”fantasy make believe- Do you really think anyone takes this crap seriously? and for Christ’s sake learn to spell.

  16. Lanthanide 16

    Looks like this has been picked up by Stuff:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5491588/Clare-Curran-stirs-blog-controversy

    Lets see if they also pick up the story about National running boilerplate press releases for all their electorate MPs. Nah, that would be too balanced of them.

  17. Peter 17

    Posts like this amount to shooting-yourself-in-the foot.

  18. Bored 18

    I really wish Clare would cease being the electronic mouth piece of the Labour Party. The volume is too much, it needs to be more pointed and spread acros the team. She is a good lady but she is trying too hard, and that gets trying for us on the end of it.

    New leadership potential for Clare…she works hard enough but needs to spend more time actually getting results such as those Dalzell and Cosgrove have in Chch post quake.

    Future leadership, Adern? Image wise it would scare the hell out of ” John the photo op” having a better looking sharper tongued young opponent.

  19. Bill 19

    I really don’t get the point of this post.

    Would people rather ‘gagging orders’ applied to every M.P. and that they could only utter an opinion after clearance from central office/committee?

    She ‘confessed’ to being angry and reckoning she should ‘probably be more measured’.

    And she wasn’t (measured).Yeah, well. So what?

    I’d far rather M.P.s were people with all the jagged edges and fuck-ups than polished insincere spin doctors.

    And if she was so fucking wrong in what she said, then again, so what? Her opinion can be challenged…by simply bowling on round to her office. Or sending her an email or a tweet.

    • I agree Bill, better to have unvarnished opinions and real reactions, far better than the wooden pinnochios. It’s the novelty factor that get’s al the atention. Sure it can be damaging but it can also be like a breath of fresh air.

      Voters have a right to know what politicians are really like.

  20. Samuel Hill 20

    Curran impresses me with her passion.

    Meanwhile, I think most of the people on the left have turned whatever kind of political movement they believed they had into a complete joke. While there are a few who speak up in the Labour and Greens and Mana who understand reality, a vast majority of Leftists are irrelevant in their arguments.

    To come out and be critical of an MP who is clearly frustrated with an ignorant and self-serving government, and an MP who is trying to do something for the people of her community and her country, is a bit rich. It is just wonderful how many people are keen to come and post their thoughts on a blog, but lack the balls to expose their true identity.

    Why don’t you grow a pair?

    Everyone who hides behind a psuedonym is chicken if you ask me – including every single person who posts on this blog under a make believe name.

    I wonder if anyone on the left is still capable of fighting a good fight?

    For example, take a look at my home electorate of Taupo, where the candidates from the Left are a complete joke. National’s Louise Upston is going to win very very easily. This is a seat which should be strongly contested. But no. Mark Burton is gone, and now there nobody there to fill the void.

    If there are any LABOUR men or women around with a more coherent message than Curran, please inform me. Because they sure have been silent in the last 6 years.

    But it is not me you have to try and convince is it? It is the average Joe and Jane on the street. The people who don’t read blogs, nor probably have the time to do so.

    When people from Labour are worried about whether a Green candidate or any other minor party is standing in certain electorates, that tells me there are serious problems within the party. And thats why people aren’t signing up to Labour. The socially liberal left who Labour have pandered to for the last 20 years are now deserting Labour, just as the hard working labourers did at the last election. How is Labour going to win these people back?

    With passionate people like Clare Curran, that’s how.

    Now if everyone could start showing their true colours instead of being such pedantic, pretentious know-it-alls, the Left might win an election in the next 10 years.

    • Bored 20.1

      Curran impresses me with her passion. True, she has that in buckets, would that a few more were similar and less jaded. Thinking it through I am only critical of her voluminous output, the content is always considered.

      Maybe she should step aside from the electronic for a while and practice another communication media. It would stand her in good stead for the day she gets a ministerial post.

  21. The Voice of Reason 21

    Pisspoor post. Crosby Textor will be laughing their arses off at this petulant crap, which only weakens the left overall. If IS doesn’t want to support Labour that’s fine, but an ego driven post on the Standard bagging a hard working MP who at least is trying to use social media in a positive way is just dumb. I think an apology would not be out of place, Eddie.

    Keep on rocking, Clare, the folk who knock on the doors, deliver the pamphlets and put up the hoardings are with you. The railway workers are with you. The voters of Dunedin are with you.

    And by the way, the Greens are not Labour’s vanguard. They have only ever been in the guard’s van on Labour’s train, which means they’re along for the ride, but nothing more. Until the Greens mature enough to both want to be in Government and be wanted in Government, they will just be there to make up the numbers.

      • The Voice of Reason 21.1.1

        Nah, as I said above, the Greens have to make up their minds as to what side they are on and how best to achieve their goals. I reckon that is with Labour, in Government. As part of a left(ish) block. That can’t be achieved by bagging each other in the media. So, in the 100 days we have left to save NZ from a total economic and environmental disaster, we’ve got to unite. Today’s tanty made the msm because they will take any crumbs to feed the Goff Must Go meme so that they can keep us out.
         
        Or are are you OK with sucking up to Key for a token bit of greenwash in the Key/Brash Government, when you could be making a real difference with Labour?

        • Anne 21.1.1.1

          the Greens have to make up their minds as to what side they are on and how best to achieve their goals. I reckon that is with Labour, in Government. As part of a left(ish) block. That can’t be achieved by bagging each other in the media

          On the button as usual TVoR. I tried to say something similar earlier today but never so eloquently as yourself.

          Take note Greens!
          Take note Labour!

          That is if you really do put NZ ahead of yourselves, and I believe you both do…

          It may not have been intentional, but at least we should give credit to Clare Curran for opening up this important discussion.

  22. grumpy 22

    Does anyone know if Jenny Michie is still Labour’s Communications Manager?

    If she is, perhaps someone could contact her about this sudden display of counterproductive infighting.

    As others have said “Labour eating it’s own”.

    [lprent: Nope. This may give you a hint. But do try to keep up. ]

    • The left always have these sorts of discussions Grumpy and often in public.
       
      We are made up broadly of two factions:
       
      1.  The purist who believe that campaigning with the perfect model of social/environmental/community cooperation will attract a plurality of support.  The trouble is that no two of these purists agree.
       
      2.  The activist organiser who is prepared to put up with a lot of crap so that progressives can be elected.
       
      Some of the most vehement of complaints of CLare have come from the purists.  Her asking them to come doorknocking is an indication that she is clearly in the activist organiser camp.
       
      IMHO the right has the same sorts of divisions:
       
      1.  Nutbar conservatives/rascists/christians
       
      2.  The wealthy.
       
      Shame is they realise that having these debates in public is damaging for their respective causes.
       
       

      • Blue 22.1.1

        Also other divisions in the National Party Micky, hard working families that pay their bills, have small businesses, employ new Zealanders, look after their children the way they are meant to be looked after and folk that hate extremes of any kind and duplicitous “forgetful” people like Goff.

        You forgot a couple of Labours divisions – Union Hacks, fringe dwellers and failures in life (looking for someone to blame for their misfortune). Psssst ‘the answer is in the mirror’.

        • mickysavage 22.1.1.1

          Ha Blue

          I am a fringe dweller in that I live on the fringe of Auckland.  I am not a union hack, I have qualifications, am self employed and have a small business that employs people. 

           So which division do I belong to?

        • Colonial Viper 22.1.1.2

          Also other divisions in the National Party Micky, hard working families that pay their bills 1), have small businesses, employ new Zealanders (1), look after their children the way they are meant to be looked after and folk that hate extremes of any kind and duplicitous “forgetful” people like Goff.(2)

          1) What about tax bills mate? Have all dairy farmers started paying income tax suddenly?

          2) Then it must be a National guy who told my friend and his workmates today that “they are getting restructured” they weren’t needed, and that minimum wage temps will be doing their jobs from now on, and then only whenever the company has enough work on. Is that the kind of employment you mean?

          3) Are you telling me that these National supporters also hate John Key because Key can’t remember what he was doing when the Boks visited in 1981? Or what Key knew about buying new BMWs for the Rugby World Cup, and when?

          Or maybe they hate English because he can’t remember which house he actually lives in?

          lolz mate

        • mik e 22.1.1.3

          blue obviously belongs to the brown nose division of National. Which guaratees you an income no matter how dumb you are so long as you keep the rhetoric up youll have a lob in National while the businessmen that fill their pockets can get on with business leave the politics to hacks like Blue to spin BS

    • The Voice of Reason 22.2

      Jenny Michie is now off doing excellent comms work for a union, Grumpy. Lucky for them, obviously, but not so lucky for Labour.

  23. randal 23

    the opponents of democracy always complain about how messy it is.
    But that is the nature of trhe beast. At least this example shows that Labour MP’s have have some fight in them and are not miserable little crosby textor clones.

  24. toad 24

    Eddie, how come the homophobic & anti-union Damien “Gaggle of Gays” O’Connor is on your list of “hardworking, principled, and bloody good” Labour MPs?

    • grumpy 24.1

      Because he is a bloody good bloke and Labour can see more votes in moving right than left…..

      • millsy 24.1.1

        Grumpy, if Labour moves right and becomes just like National, like you are saying it should, then it should fold up and merge into National.

        I think that Labour needs to dust off the writings of Nash, Fraser, Savage, and even John A Lee.

    • Lanthanide 24.2

      He got it wrong anyway, it should be “parade of gays” or “drag of gays”.

      I guess those aren’t alliterative though.

    • mik e 24.3

      Toad all the gays in National are still in the Closet. National do everything behind closet doors .Thats why you can only be a slag ger because you are told what to do in National and what to say there is no open discussion for you guys . Thats why you come to the standard where you can have a decent argument without all the slagging like you get with farrer and Blubber sorry bludger. I’m happy to oblige .

  25. neoleftie 25

    well as a semi active activist in clare’s electorate i have to say this post is a bit trite.
    Clare is hardworking, IT savy and a genuine person for the masses, perhaps not as savy a politian or as polished as our career poli elites.
    I would rather have an honest caring MP, who displays passion, than a polished stuffed white collar tory or even a career, right leaning labour MP.
    I for one have been impressed at her transition from simple beginnings at LEC meeting to speeches in the House. Hardworking – tune in to Poli TV and you will see a few familar faces who stand out as regulars; Clare, Grant Robertson and old hand Trev.
    So shame on you Eddie

    • SHG 25.1

      “Hardworking”? Yeah, ok. “passionate”? Ok. But “IT savvy”? Puh-lease. When it comes to technology Curran is a waste of space. If she could stop her “tee hee I’m a girl on the Internet!!!1” schtick for a moment she might be able to learn something about telecommunications, seeing as how she’s the oppn spokesperson for it. But so far, nope.

      • Anton Angelo 25.1.1

        Having spent time talking to Clare about IT at various events, I can say that she has a good grasp of the issues, and from personal experience I contest your claim that she is somehow ignorant, and relying on her gender to somehow fake her way.  Maybe she doesn’t know the intricate details of SS7[1], but I’d rather, personally, she dealt with policy than intricate technical issues.  
         
        [1] Maybe she does know SS7. 
        [2] Edited for spelling.

  26. Jum 26

    Clare is a passionate speaker in the House and is obviously a problem for Joyce because he does what Key does (who taught whom?) which is to suggest the questioner is lying and tries to belittle her when the question has been a good one and the Speaker will not/cannot question the veracity of Joyce and Key’s slippery replies. They also try it on Jacinda Ardern; they just come off looking so childish; I wonder how little real substance the three stooges Key, English and Joyce have to offer New Zealand when they resort to those silly behaviours. It’s not a good look for our Parliament.

    Keep Curran. Get rid of Joyce, English and Key (out of Parliament I hasten to add!) and out of the country, back to their American masters, and Parliament will be a much more credible, honest and effective place.

    There is so much to lose this year if these NActMU cretins get back in, more than even I thought – our assets, our financial credibility as a country and our level of humanity in dealing with our neediest.

    We know the rightwing agenda already, no matter what new policy they magic up.

    Whatever they promise such as only part ownership of our assets will be a lie as it was in 2005 and 2008 and will be again in 2011.

  27. alex 27

    The Greens don’t owe Labour a thing. Labour deserves to lose their position as the major opposition, and the Greens should be the ones to take over. They take strong, principled stands and debate the issues. Labour tries to play the same game as National, and loses. Yes I would rather have Goff than Key forming the next government, but if National does win, I want the Greens to win in 2014.

  28. Anton Angelo 28

    All those that have commented about Clair being passionate and angry: well, from the small experience I have of her, you’ve got it right. And she is quite justified to be so. In fact, I think showing a bit more honest emotion would do us all good. The blogs seem to be full of snide backbiting over trivia, and the standard media can only work with the over produced smarm they get delivered.

    Getting angry doesn’t mean being rude, or disrespectful, it’s the precursor to getting organised. It means passionately standing up for the clear differences between right and left, between greed and kindness, about what it means to live in a democracy.

    We talk about passion so much these days with relation to piddling nothings, and lie about it constantly (yes boss, I’m passionate about my job wiping down dunnies, it fills my soul with completeness) we’ve forgotten what it actually looks like. And Clair seems to actually have it.

    Get pissed Clair. I am. We are. Sometimes it will go over the top. That’s OK – its better then smiling and waving and pretending its all alright, when it so evidently not.

  29. chris73 29

    I’m loving Clares postings, so much humour 🙂

    Slagging off the Greens, yeah thats helpful. Maybe Labour could have been a bit more supportive towards the Greens by offering them some baubles of power

  30. It’s good to see Clare back on red Alert with an admission and apology – it’s unusual and refreshing to see a politician doing that.

    It’s debatable how necessary an apology was for free and open expression but I guess it’s a politically pragmatic thing to do.

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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago
  • How much climate reality can the global financial system take without collapsing?
    Microsoft’s transparency about its failure to meet its own net-zero goals is creditable, but the response to that failure is worrying. It is offering up a set of false solutions, heavily buttressed by baseless optimism. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Here’s the top six news items of note in ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 24-May-2024
    Another Friday, another Rāmere Roundup! Here are a few things that caught our eye this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday, our new writer Connor Sharp roared into print with a future-focused take on the proposed Auckland Future Fund, and what it could invest in. On ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    4 days ago
  • Earning The Huia Feather.
    Still Waiting: Māori land remains in the hands of Non-Māori. The broken promises of the Treaty remain broken. The mana of the tangata whenua languishes under racist neglect. The right to wear the huia feather remains as elusive as ever. Perhaps these three transformations are beyond the power of a ...
    4 days ago
  • Bernard’s Dawn Chorus and pick ‘n’ mix for Friday, May 24
    Posters opposing the proposed Fast-Track Approvals legislation were pasted around Wellington last week. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: One of the architects of the RMA and a former National Cabinet Minister, Simon Upton, has criticised the Government’s Fast-Track Approvals bill as potentially disastrous for the environment, arguing just 1% ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to May 24
    There was less sharing of the joy this week than at the Chinese New Year celebrations in February. China’s ambassador to NZ (2nd from right above) has told Luxon that relations between China and New Zealand are now at a ‘critical juncture’ Photo: Getty / Xinhua News AgencyTL;DR: The podcast ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Beijing troubleshooter’s surprise visit
    The importance of New Zealand’s relationship with China was surely demonstrated yesterday with the surprise arrival in the capital of top Chinese foreign policy official Liu Jianchao. The trip was apparently organized a week ago but kept secret. Liu is the Minister of the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) International Liaison ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • UK election a foregone conclusion?  That’s why it’s interesting
    With a crushing 20-plus point lead in the opinion polls, all the signs are that Labour leader Keir Starmer will be the PM after the general election on 4 July, called by Conservative incumbent Rishi Sunak yesterday. The stars are aligned for Starmer.  Rival progressives are in abeyance: the Liberal-Democrat ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #21 2021
    Open access notables How much storage do we need in a fully electrified future? A critical review of the assumptions on which this question depends, Marsden et al., Energy Research & Social Science: Our analysis advances the argument that current approaches reproduce interpretations of normality that are, ironically, rooted in ...
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  • Days in the life
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Forget about its name and focus on its objective – this RMA reform bill aims to cut red tape (and ...
    Buzz from the Beehive A triumvirate of ministers – holding the Agriculture, Environment and RMA Reform portfolios – has announced the introduction of legislation “to slash the tangle of red and green tape throttling development in key sectors”, such as farming, mining and other primary industries. The exact name of ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • More National corruption
    In their coalition agreement with NZ First, the National Party agreed to provide $24 million in funding to the charity "I Am Hope / Gumboot Friday". Why were they so eager to do so? Because their chair was a National donor, their CEO was the son of a National MP ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Submit!
    The Social Services and Community Committee has called for submissions on the Oranga Tamariki (Repeal of Section 7AA) Amendment Bill. Submissions are due by Wednesday, 3 July 2024, and can be made at the link above. And if you're wondering what to say: section 7AA was enacted because Oranga Tamariki ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Reading the MPS numbers thinking about the fiscal situation
    Michael Reddell writes –  The Reserve Bank doesn’t do independent fiscal forecasts so there is no news in the fiscal numbers in today’s Monetary Policy Statement themselves. The last official Treasury forecasts don’t take account of whatever the government is planning in next week’s Budget, and as the Bank notes ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Charter Schools are a worthwhile addition to our school system – but ACT is mis-selling why they a...
    Rob MacCulloch writes – We know the old saying, “Never trust a politician”, and the Charter School debate is a good example of it. Charter Schools receive public funding, yet “are exempt from most statutory requirements of traditional public schools, including mandates around .. human capital management .. curriculum ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Paranoia On The Left.
    How Do We Silence Them? The ruling obsession of the contemporary Left is that political action undertaken by individuals or groups further to the right than the liberal wings of mainstream conservative parties should not only be condemned, but suppressed.WEB OF CHAOS, a “deep dive into the world of disinformation”, ...
    5 days ago
  • Budget challenges
    Muriel Newman writes –  As the new Government puts the finishing touches to this month’s Budget, they will undoubtedly have had their hands full dealing with the economic mess that Labour created. Not only was Labour a grossly incompetent manager of the economy, but they also set out ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Rishi calls an Election.
    Today the British PM, Rishi Sunak, called a general election for the 4th of July. He spoke of the challenging times and of strong leadership and achievements. It was as if he was talking about someone else, a real leader, rather than he himself or the woeful list of Tory ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • Photo of the Day: GNR
    This post marks the return of an old format: Photo of the Day. Recently I was in an apartment in one of those new buildings on Great North Road Grey Lynn at rush hour, perfect day, the view was stunning, so naturally I whipped out my phone: GNR 5pm Turns ...
    Greater AucklandBy Patrick Reynolds
    5 days ago
  • Choosing landlords and the homeless over first home buyers
    The Government may struggle with the political optics of scrapping assistance for first home buyers while also cutting the tax burden on landlords, increasing concerns over the growing generational divide. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government confirmed it will dump first home buyer grants in the Budget next ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Orr’s warning; three years of austerity
    Yesterday, the Reserve Bank confirmed there will be no free card for the economy to get out of jail during the current term of the Government. Regardless of what the Budget next week says, we are in for three years of austerity. Over those three years, we will have to ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • An admirable U-turn
    It doesn’t inspire confidence when politicians change their minds.  But you must give credit when a bad idea is dropped. Last year, we reported on the determination of British PM Rishi Sunak to lead the world in regulating the dangers of Artificial Intelligence. Perhaps he changed his mind after meeting ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago
  • Climate Adam: Can we really suck up Carbon Dioxide?
    This video includes conclusions of the creator climate scientist Dr. Adam Levy. It is presented to our readers as an informed perspective. Please see video description for references (if any). Is carbon dioxide removal - aka "negative emissions" - going to save us from climate change? Or is it just a ...
    6 days ago
  • Public funding for private operators in mental health and housing – and a Bill to erase a bit of t...
    Headed for the legislative wastepaper basket…    Buzz from the Beehive It looks like this government is just as ready as its predecessor to dip into the public funds it is managing to dispense millions of dollars to finance – and favour – the parties it fancies. Or ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Why has Einstein Medalist Roy Kerr never been Knighted?
    Rob MacCulloch writes – National and Labour and ACT have at various times waxed on about their “vision” of NZ as a high value-added world tech center What subject is tech based upon? Mathematics. A Chicago mathematician just told me that whereas last decade ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Contestable advice
    Eric Crampton writes –  Danyl McLauchlan over at The Listener on the recent shift toward more contestability in public policy advice in education: Education Minister Erica Stanford, one of National’s highest-ranked MPs, is trying to circumvent the establishment, taking advice from a smaller pool of experts – ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • How did it get so bad?
    Ele Ludemann writes – That Kāinga Ora is a mess is no surprise, but the size of the mess is. There have been many reports of unruly tenants given licence to terrorise neighbours, properties bought and left vacant, and the state agency paying above market rates in competition ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • How serious is an MP’s failure to declare $178k in donations?
    Bryce Edwards writes –  It’s being explained as an “inadvertent error”. However, National MP David MacLeod’s excuse for failing to disclose $178,000 in donations for his election campaign last year is not necessarily enough to prevent some serious consequences. A Police investigation is now likely, and the result ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the privatising of state housing provision, by stealth
    The scathing “independent” review of Kāinga Ora barely hit the table before the coalition government had acted on it. The entire Kāinga Ora board will be replaced, and a new chair (Simon Moutter) has been announced. Hmm. No aspersions on Bill English, but the public would have had more confidence ...
    6 days ago
  • Our House.
    I'll light the fireYou place the flowers in the vaseThat you bought todayA warm dry home, you’d think that would be bread and butter to politicians. Home ownership and making sure people aren’t left living on the street, that’s as Kiwi as Feijoa and Apple Crumble. Isn’t it?The coalition are ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Government to consult on regulation of shooting clubs and ranges
      The Government is consulting New Zealanders on a package of proposals for simple and effective regulation of shooting clubs and ranges, Associate Minister of Justice, Nicole McKee announced today.   “Clubs and ranges are not only important for people learning to operate firearms safely, to practice, and to compete, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Successful New Caledonia repatriation winds up, need for dialogue remains
    Over 300 people have been successfully flown out of New Caledonia in a joint Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) and New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) operation.   As of today, seven New Zealand government aircraft flights to Nouméa have assisted around 225 New Zealanders and 145 foreign nationals ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Minister to Singapore for defence, technology talks
    Defence and Science, Innovation and Technology Minister Judith Collins departs for Singapore tomorrow for defence and technology summits and meetings. First up is the Asia Tech X Singapore Summit, followed by the Five Power Defence Arrangements Defence Ministers Meeting and wrapping up with the Shangri-La Dialogue for Defence Ministers from ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Major investment in teacher supply through Budget 24
    Over the next four years, Budget 24 will support the training and recruitment of 1,500 teachers into the workforce, Education Minister Erica Stanford announced today. “To raise achievement and develop a world leading education system we’re investing nearly $53 million over four years to attract, train and retain our valued ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Joint statement on the New Zealand – Cook Islands Joint Ministerial Forum – 2024
    1.  New Zealand Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Rt Hon Winston Peters; Minister of Health and Minister for Pacific Peoples Hon Dr Shane Reti; and Minister for Climate Change Hon Simon Watts hosted Cook Islands Minister of Foreign Affairs and Immigration Hon Tingika Elikana and Minister of Health Hon Vainetutai Rose Toki-Brown on 24 May ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Middle East, Africa deployments extended
    The Government has approved two-year extensions for four New Zealand Defence Force deployments to the Middle East and Africa, Defence Minister Judith Collins and Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today. “These deployments are long-standing New Zealand commitments, which reflect our ongoing interest in promoting peace and stability, and making active ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change Commission Chair to retire
    The Climate Change Commission Chair, Dr Rod Carr, has confirmed his plans to retire at the end of his term later this year, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. “Prior to the election, Dr Carr advised me he would be retiring when his term concluded. Dr Rod Carr has led ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Inaugural Board of Integrity Sport & Recreation Commission announced
    Nine highly respected experts have been appointed to the inaugural board of the new Integrity Sport and Recreation Commission, Sport & Recreation Minister Chris Bishop says. “The Integrity Sport and Recreation Commission is a new independent Crown entity which was established under the Integrity Sport and Recreation Act last year, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • A balanced Foreign Affairs budget
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters confirmed today that Vote Foreign Affairs in Budget 2024 will balance two crucial priorities of the Coalition Government.    While Budget 2024 reflects the constrained fiscal environment, the Government also recognises the critical role MFAT plays in keeping New Zealanders safe and prosperous.    “Consistent with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New social housing places to support families into homes
    New social housing funding in Budget 2024 will ensure the Government can continue supporting more families into warm, dry homes from July 2025, Housing Ministers Chris Bishop and Tama Potaka say. “Earlier this week I was proud to announce that Budget 2024 allocates $140 million to fund 1,500 new social ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New Zealand’s minerals future
    Introduction Today, we are sharing a red-letter occasion. A Blackball event on hallowed ground. Today  we underscore the importance of our mineral estate. A reminder that our natural resource sector has much to offer.  Such a contribution will not come to pass without investment.  However, more than money is needed. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government sets out vision for minerals future
    Increasing national and regional prosperity, providing the minerals needed for new technology and the clean energy transition, and doubling the value of minerals exports are the bold aims of the Government’s vision for the minerals sector. Resources Minister Shane Jones today launched a draft strategy for the minerals sector in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government progresses Māori wards legislation
    The coalition Government’s legislation to restore the rights of communities to determine whether to introduce Māori wards has passed its first reading in Parliament, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “Divisive changes introduced by the previous government denied local communities the ability to determine whether to establish Māori wards.” The ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • First RMA amendment Bill introduced to Parliament
    The coalition Government has today introduced legislation to slash the tangle of red and green tape throttling some of New Zealand’s key sectors, including farming, mining and other primary industries. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop says the Government is committed to  unlocking development and investment while ensuring the environment is ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government welcomes EPA decision
    The decision by Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) to approve the continued use of hydrogen cyanamide, known as Hi-Cane, has been welcomed by Environment Minister Penny Simmonds and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay.  “The EPA decision introduces appropriate environmental safeguards which will allow kiwifruit and other growers to use Hi-Cane responsibly,” Ms ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech to Employers and Manufacturers Association: Relief for today, hope for tomorrow
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government invests in 1,500 more social homes
    The coalition Government is investing in social housing for New Zealanders who are most in need of a warm dry home, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. Budget 2024 will allocate $140 million in new funding for 1,500 new social housing places to be provided by Community Housing Providers (CHPs), not ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • $24 million boost for Gumboot Friday
    Thousands more young New Zealanders will have better access to mental health services as the Government delivers on its commitment to fund the Gumboot Friday initiative, says Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey.  “Budget 2024 will provide $24 million over four years to contract the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill passes first reading
    The Coalition Government’s Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill, which will improve tenancy laws and help increase the supply of rental properties, has passed its first reading in Parliament says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “The Bill proposes much-needed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 that will remove barriers to increasing private ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Montecassino Commemorative Address, Cassino War Cemetery
    Standing here in Cassino War Cemetery, among the graves looking up at the beautiful Abbey of Montecassino, it is hard to imagine the utter devastation left behind by the battles which ended here in May 1944. Hundreds of thousands of shells and bombs of every description left nothing but piled ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • First Reading – Repeal of Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act 1989
    I present a legislative statement on the Oranga Tamariki (Repeal of Section 7AA) Amendment Bill Mr. Speaker, I move that the Oranga Tamariki (Repeal of Section 7AA) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the Social Services and Community Committee to consider the Bill. Thank you, Mr. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • First reading of 7AA’s repeal: progress for children
    The Bill to repeal Section 7AA of the Oranga Tamariki Act has had its first reading in Parliament today. The Bill reaffirms the Coalition Government’s commitment to the care and safety of children in care, says Minister for Children Karen Chhour.  “When I became the Minister for Children, I made ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • China Business Summit 2024
    Kia ora koutou, good morning, and zao shang hao. Thank you Fran for the opportunity to speak at the 2024 China Business Summit – it’s great to be here today. I’d also like to acknowledge: Simon Bridges - CEO of the Auckland Chamber of Commerce. His Excellency Ambassador - Wang ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Assisted depatures from New Caledonia
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has confirmed a New Zealand Government plane will head to New Caledonia in the next hour in the first in a series of proposed flights to begin bringing New Zealanders home.    “New Zealanders in New Caledonia have faced a challenging few days - and bringing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Assisted departures from New Caledonia
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has confirmed a New Zealand Government plane will head to New Caledonia in the next hour in the first in a series of proposed flights to begin bringing New Zealanders home.  “New Zealanders in New Caledonia have faced a challenging few days - and bringing them ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government to rollout roadside drug testing
    The Coalition Government will introduce legislation this year that will enable roadside drug testing as part of our commitment to improve road safety and restore law and order, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Alcohol and drugs are the number one contributing factor in fatal road crashes in New Zealand. In ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Minister responds to review of Kāinga Ora
    The Government has announced a series of immediate actions in response to the independent review of Kāinga Ora – Homes and Communities, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “Kāinga Ora is a large and important Crown entity, with assets of $45 billion and over $2.5 billion of expenditure each year. It ...
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    1 week ago
  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour is pleased that Pseudoephedrine can now be purchased by the general public to protect them from winter illness, after the coalition government worked swiftly to change the law and oversaw a fast approval process by Medsafe. “Pharmacies are now putting the medicines back on their ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand-China Business Summit
    Tēnā koutou katoa. Da jia hao.  Good morning everyone.   Prime Minister Luxon, your excellency, a great friend of New Zealand and my friend Ambassador Wang, Mayor of what he tells me is the best city in New Zealand, Wayne Brown, the highly respected Fran O’Sullivan, Champion of the Auckland business ...
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    1 week ago
  • New measures to protect powerlines from trees
    Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced that the Government will make it easier for lines firms to take action to remove vegetation from obstructing local powerlines. The change will ensure greater security of electricity supply in local communities, particularly during severe weather events.  “Trees or parts of trees falling on ...
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    1 week ago
  • Wairarapa Moana ki Pouakani win top Māori dairy farming award
    Wairarapa Moana ki Pouakani were the top winners at this year’s Ahuwhenua Trophy awards recognising the best in Māori dairy farming. Māori Development Minister Tama Potaka announced the winners and congratulated runners-up, Whakatōhea Māori Trust Board, at an awards celebration also attended by Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Finance Minister ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • District Court Judges appointed
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  • Unions should put learning ahead of ideology
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    2 weeks ago
  • Craig Stobo appointed as chair of FMA
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    2 weeks ago
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand and Tuvalu reaffirm close relationship
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  • New Zealand welcomes Samoa Head of State
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