Rockstar! Is it?

Written By: - Date published: 12:58 pm, September 16th, 2016 - 181 comments
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National is very proud of the latest GDP-growth figures (third highest in OECD!), but are they helping you?  And are they what they appear?

First up Bill English is open – they’re not helping you, we’re not getting much wage growth.

And that’s a lot because they’re not quite what they appear.  GDP/capita growth is <1% (vs the 3.6% growth headline figure).

So really what we’re seeing is National boosting its numbers by piling a bunch of people into the country.

Once again: migrants – lovely people; diversity – a great thing.  But with 68,000 people coming into the country over the last year we’re giving ourselves a housing and infrastructure headache, and depressing the wages of those already here.

As detailed before, there are jobs we need to import people for (thanks to a lack of National planning & training: carpenters for those houses we need), but a lot of the time we’re just bringing in retail/cafe/farm managers, chefs etc because employers don’t want to pay Kiwi wages.

I’m still all for a better measure of economic “health” than GDP & its growth (and lets please also measure environmental & social health!), but at the very least lets go off GDP/capita, so the figures can’t be skewed this way, and the numbers actually relate to people.

181 comments on “Rockstar! Is it?”

  1. Meh…. Im not so sure I want to swallow the 1980’s exhortations that we should be ‘ tolerant’ , that multiculturalism is the way forward and all the other catch phrases we had rammed down our throats by the govts of the day.

    If people cant see that it was a planned way of getting in cheap labour for the then named Business Roundtable ( now called the NZ Initiative ) ,…and realize it was all a con job … then pity help us.

    Rather suspicious that sort of globalistic sloganeering came in tandem with anti union legislation such as the Employment Contracts Act , is it not?…

    Ask yourself…. is the New Zealander nowadays a mentally inferior version of what constitutes the rest of the worlds citizens?

    Can we not train our own young into the skills set we once seemed so easily able to?

    What happened to Kiwi can do ?… that number 8 wire mentality?

    Sorry folks ,….you were sold a neo liberal, free market con job.

    And the worst thing about it?…. it makes the Nzer look like a helpless, incompetent , lazy , unintelligent and gormless second rate citizen in their own country. They continue to feed us the lie that if all the immigrants were to suddenly leave the economy would fall apart.

    Bolix it would !!!!

    The only thing that would fall apart would be the obscene profit margins of the exploiters in business of all this cheap labour!!!! Those who benefit from low wages, a de-unionised and casualised work force that was put into law way back in around 1992.

    That whole era of implying we were intolerant, and treated like children by an all knowing , patronizing and condescending political and academic elite- just so that their true motives of greed and appetite for excess profits could be slated – while at the same time masquerading around as people with noble aspirations for humanity makes me and thousands of others sick to the gut.

    This whole decades long dismantling of the NZ workers wages, training , conditions etc was carefully planned by the same sort of bastards that now refuse to put a brake on their runaway , out of control immigration policy’s that have contributed massively to the housing crisis we are now in.

    Neo liberals.

    Anti community , anti sovereignty , anti democracy and anti govt.

    • Stuart Munro 1.1

      You’ve nailed it.

      No-one should expect folk to embrace migrants that put them out of their jobs or houses.

      It has to stop.

      • What “has to stop” is the stigmatization of the people who come here to work from overseas.

        They aren’t setting immigration policy, they aren’t keeping wages low, they aren’t eroding workers’ rights. If people are living in our country they deserve to have good jobs, good homes and good lives, like every other human being.

        Here’s the thing: if people stopped buying into this “bloody immigrants taking our jobs” rhetoric and demanded that all people who work here are paid good wages, treated with dignity, and protected from exploitation, it would make the situation far less tempting for cost-cutting bosses. As a bonus, we wouldn’t come across like narrow-minded bigots who hate foreigners.

        • Scott 1.1.1.1

          Well put Stephanie.

          Change our policies if we might, but those that are here now are here at our invitation so suck it up.

          • s y d 1.1.1.1.1

            Fucks sake. I’m calling handwringing bullshit.

            You guys would defend the ‘rights’ of scabs once they’ve crossed the picket lines.

            Ohhhh well they’re in the workplace now, lets treat them nice and give them the respect they deserve.

            There is ALWAYS someone, somewhere desperate enough to do things for less.

            Global migrant labour is being ‘bussed’ in to undermine local conditions. It is a tool. Should we just stand back and say ahh well, thats how it is. These guys are willing to be exploited and used to distort our labour market, so be it.

            Fuck that. Like all scabs they need to be told they are being used, that they are part of a wider problem and that they need to recognise this.

            Have a read of Mike Treens article, it is spot on.

        • WILD KATIPO 1.1.1.2

          @ Stephanie

          And to a point you are exactly right.

          People come here for the attractions of starting a new life. They do so because they can.

          And that aspect is perfectly ok. As is demanding fair practice for immigrants in the work force, – and that goes for all of us as well. No problem with that.

          But before anyone gets on the ‘ calling everyone who wants a large reduction in immigration a bigot, a racist , a xenophobe ‘ kick…. lets have a look at a people group that could REALLY do with a leg up – REFUGEES.

          REFUGEES who have had their family’s, community’s and country blown to hell.

          But the neo liberal likes to downplay all that sort of thing because usually , – but not always – the refugee DOES NOT have a fat bank balance, and quite often the so called desired ‘ skills set’. And that means govt intervention to settle a family in. And neo iberals cant see the economic advantage in all that.

          Sheer hypocrisy at its worst.

          And you are quite right- we have a runaway immigration situation simply because of the govt we have in currently. And they have absolutely no desire to change that for the reasons mentioned above. It makes their glowing reports of a rock star economy look even better. How?…. by twisting the stats.

          Which is at the very heart of what this blog is all about.

        • Leftie 1.1.1.3

          Mike Treen covered this in his recent article:

          What you are not being told about the most recent migration surge

          “The real beneficiaries of this system of indentured labour are often the biggest companies in New Zealand. We know that all the hotel chains rely on temporary labour. SkyCity uses them extensively as do all the big fast food chains.”

          “The June annual net gain figure of 69,100 was also a new record.”

          “Reasons for the most recent increases include the following:

          The economy appeared to be stalling in 2013 and again in early 2015 after an initial period of recovery following the 2008 financial crash and subsequent recession. A positive migrant inflow of labour and cash could mask the economic slowdown that was occurring.

          Foreign labour was deemed important for the rebuild of Christchurch following the 2010 and 2011 earthquakes.

          An aggressive recruitment of overseas students was agreed on in October 2013, which included liberalising the right to work while here saw numbers increase 25 per cent to over 100,000 in a few years.

          Tourist numbers have been boosted by making it easier for Chinese and others to travel here. The June 2016 year saw a record 3.31 million visitor arrivals, with Chinese numbers up 83,600 to 396,900. Additional labour would be needed to service this sector.

          Employers in certain industries (tourism, hospitality, farming, horticulture) were complaining that they couldn’t attract enough staff (at the wages they were offering). In some industries that Unite Union represents staff, such as tourist hotels and fast food, the bosses confessed that 30 to 40 per cent of their staff were on temporary visas.

          Some industries including hospitality, dairy farming and aged care have come to be permanently dependent on workers on temporary visas.”

          “The government has massively increased the number of student and temporary work visa holders.”

          <a href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/09/16/exclusive-what-you-are-not-being-told-about-the-most-recent-migration-surge/

        • marty mars 1.1.1.4

          + 1 Stephanie

          It is like a great amnesia has descended – the immigrants have caused all the bad things, they are to blame, they must be stopped – when the truth is they are the most exploited, the most at risk. Meanwhile the real culprits – the people of this country who voted in year in and out parties that put these policies of exploitation into place sit there finger pointing and throwing poo.

          • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.4.1

            Immigrants filthy wealthy or under paid below the minimum wage are the most visible sign of a country which no longer believes in defending the integrity of its own borders and which no longer believes in putting NZers first.

            So that’s naturally where dissatisfaction is going to be directed especially as the PM’s office is far away and hard to get to.

            BTW looks like Merkel’s party is in for another beating in Berlin’s elections. I wonder if the anti immgration AfD party is going to beat them again.

            And I think NZ First is going to be a winner at the polls.

            • Hanswurst 1.1.1.4.1.1

              BTW looks like Merkel’s party is in for another beating in Berlin’s elections. I wonder if the anti immgration AfD party is going to beat them again.

              Unlikely. It looks as though the AfD will be a major beneficiary of the currently high protest vote. However, the highest probability looks to be a coalition of the centrist Social Democrats, the Greens and the left-leaning “Linke”. That is a more progressive-leaning coalition than the current grand coalition between the Social Democrats and the centrist CDU. Additionally, the issues of refugees and immigrant workers are quite separate, so not really comparable with NZ in this case.

              Closer to home, I also think that, while the pulling in of cheaper labour from overseas is clearly an issue, the angle of hammering immigration in itself is fucked beyond belief, and comparisons of migrant workers with scabs are spurious and irresponsible. The problem isn’t immigrant workers looking for a better wage, it’s labour laws that make it attractive for employers to undercut the local workforce by finding someone who will do the same work for less. The angle should be wage laws, job security and union rights. If immigration laws need to be tightened, that should be incidental and only sold as part of a heavily pushed package of labour legislation.

              The consequences that always, but always arise from inflaming debates around immigration are so severe and damaging that politicians and commentators with any influence should strenuously attempt to keep them as peripheral as possible. Immigration has a habit of making an issue of itself without any help from the political class, and the beneficiaries tend to be populists, racists and the law-and-order brigade.

              • Colonial Viper

                very enlightened perspective, however if you think the emphasis should be on union rights and tougher labour laws then let’s hear Labour start “pushing that angle.”

                But they won’t will they.

                So the field is left open to the anti immigration nationalists.

                By the way, you can be anti-immigration and not be racist.

                Just saying so that the bleeding heart liberal lefty set learns something.

                • Hanswurst

                  But they won’t will they.

                  No, because they are a disgrace.

                  By the way, you can be anti-immigration and not be racist.

                  Yes, which is why I said:

                  Immigration has a habit of making an issue of itself without any help from the political class, and the beneficiaries tend to be populists, racists and the law-and-order brigade.

                  Having said that, I’m not sure whether being anti-immigration is generally any more palatable than being racist. It’s less morally repugnant, but that’s not necessarily that meaningful. Being against immigration represents the same mentality as being a nimby about anything else, and shows a resistance to change without assessing real benefits beyond one’s own gut feeling. Believing that changing policy settings surrounding immigration might provide social benefits is different, but that’s not being anti-immigration.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    slice and dice the definitions with as much finessing as you want, sneer at the “mindset” as much as you want, the end result is the same: NZ should massively limit immigration and only allow that which serves our national interests.

                    • Hanswurst

                      Emphasising a distinction between being anti-immigration and being racist on a thread where immigrants have been compared to scabs is a very good example of slicing and dicing definitions. Accepting the sorts of hair-splitting and contortions that have public currency (“I’m not racist, but there are too many immigrants stealing our jobs”), while dismissing serious attempts to understand a situation as “sneering” sophistry, is a pretty textbook definition of populism. Oswald Mosley did it, Winston Peters does it, Key profits off the back of it. You do it. Further, in so doing, you’re sneering yourself.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      No idea what you’re on about. Fewer immigrants, tougher citizenship requirements, more NZ workers on the job, less ineffectial left wing hand wringing tut tutting, is what this nation needs.

                      is a pretty textbook definition of populism. Oswald Mosley did it, Winston Peters does it, Key profits off the back of it. You do it. Further, in so doing, you’re sneering yourself.

                      I’m going to write up a post about this tomorrow, now that you’ve pushed me. If you want to label me a racist populist blah blah trendy lefty sneer moniker of the day, so be it, I couldn’t care less.

                    • Hanswurst []

                      I couldn’t really care less whether you are a racist or not. My point is simply that the way immigration is being hammered as an issue in isolation by the Labour Party and some close to it is bringing some seriously simplistic scapegoating out of the woodwork. Just look at some of the comments on here, blaming foreign workers who have no meaningful power to alter the situation.

                      The blame for low wages and poor employment prospects rests with employers and legislators, and that needs to be made clear. Changing immigration laws would be one way of relieving downward pressure on wages, but fostering (deliberately or not) a culture of scapegoating and simplistic solutions can be the start of a slippery slope. Once immigration is down, how about we blame beneficiaries and the unemployed, or Maori? It’s not so long since iwi/kiwi, Rufus Painter or National’s dob in a beneficiary campaign of the late 90s. The thing is that, if wages aren’t being kept down by cheap immigrant labour, then the Right will use high real unemployment and draconian benefit measures, or some other mechanism. As long as it’s being blamed on someone else, they can keep at it.

                      I think this is especially important, since I can easily see National outflanking Labour on the immigration front at the coming election, while simultaneously launching a renewed attack on the welfare state. If immigration is the core of Labour’s criticism of the economy, what would they have to counter that?

        • Stuart Munro 1.1.1.5

          Tell it to someone who didn’t lose their industry to slave workers.

    • Sooo… “migration bad”?

      I’ll ignore the obvious counter-example of “well, goodbye everyone Pakeha, because we’re migrants too.”

      I agree with you that we should be training the people we have first, and making sure we’ve got vacancies for them. But we do need at least some migrants, as between expats and low birthrate, we wouldn’t reach replacement rate without them, and we’ve got a pretty good population level IMO at about 4 million.

      • WILD KATIPO 1.2.1

        Migration bad?

        Depends upon the real motives behind it . In this govt’s case,- its being used as a prop – and an irresponsible one at that. So in this case yes – ‘migration bad ‘ –

        What is wrong with controlled and responsible migration numbers that doesn’t stress the host country ?… or shore up and entrench unscrupulous labour laws and opportunistic employers ?

        • UncookedSelachimorpha 1.2.1.1

          Yep, not really a question of whether immigration is bad or not.

          More a question of whether we should try to build our country and economy on desperate poverty jobs. National thinks we should.

      • Colonial Viper 1.2.2

        But we do need at least some migrants, as between expats and low birthrate, we wouldn’t reach replacement rate without them, and we’ve got a pretty good population level IMO at about 4 million.

        Get a grip on reality mate we are likely to hit 5 million population in the next decade or so, maybe 2030 at the outside, and it is TOO MUCH

      • Stuart Munro 1.2.3

        Our birthrate would be higher if people could afford houses.

    • burt 1.3

      So what you’re saying is that in the 80’s total control of business, manufacturing, transport and banking moved from the hands of the unions to other groups and that’s a conspiracy. The previous X decades of union cartel behaviour, that wasn’t a conspiracy and you want things back your way because now you have to earn a living rather than just carry a union card ?

  2. Scott 2

    Stats and damned lies.

    Of all the stats about immigration the one I think is most telling is that people want to move here (or return here). We like to moan about it all the time, or at least some do, but in the end this is a pretty good place to be living.

    That does not mean we cannot do better, but let’s not pretend the place is collapsing around our ears.

    • Yeah, – you don’t get a tyre put around your neck and set alight with gasoline, you don’t send your kids to school hoping they don’t get shot to shit by a maniac- sure , – we get all that .

      But why have family’s sleeping rough in cars, wages that belong back around 1984 vintage, displacement by immigrants and priced out of a housing market because of speculators?

      There’s a fucking shitload of things these neo liberals have done to systematically wreck our country for the last 32 years – they and they alone are responsible for the economic and degraded political state this country finds itself in today.

      So going soft on neo liberals is like opening the door and inviting a thief in for a cup of tea.

      You just don’t do that .

      Not unless your some sort of weirdo that likes hitting yourself repeatedly on the head with a ball peen hammer.

      • Scott 2.1.1

        In the year to June 2016 most of our permanent or long term arrivals came here from (as in where they were last permanently resident) Australia (20%), the UK (11%), China (10%), and India (10%). While China and India might not be as economically or socially advanced as Australia or the UK, I don’t think that is a collection of people looking for and “anything is better” type of place to live… we are not talking Syrians and Afghans.

        Have you considered moving? You don’t sound very happy with life here.

        • WILD KATIPO 2.1.1.1

          Have you considered your housing portfolio or your children’s future?… you might consider downsizing that portfolio before the crash.

          In which case you might not be sounding quite so happy here as well – and might have to consider moving.

          • Scott 2.1.1.1.1

            Quite happy thanks. As I said in my initial comment, this is a pretty good place to live. A great place to bring up kids.

            • WILD KATIPO 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Mhmmmm… if you have a large garage or a spacious van to doss you and your family down in,… I guess we shouldn’t moan then , should we.

              • Scott

                You’re quite right. Don’t moan. Moaning only helps if you’re making a porno. Do something about it.

                In your case, if you are as dramatically unhappy with life in New Zealand as you say, move. Don’t live life in the misery you portray, get out, free yourself, move to a place you’d feel happier in.

                You might be helping the people living in cars in the process by vacating a place for them to live. A bit like an investor might by providing a property for rent.

                • The only moaning being done here is against deniers such as yourself – of which there are far too many of the far right neo liberal ilk.

                  Sadly.

                  If we were to take little people such as yourself seriously we would be expected blithely to accept any old shitty conditions .

                  That attitude you display is the same ” couldn’t give a fuck as long as I’m alright Jack ” attitude that saw children sweeping chimneys and working in coal mines doing 12 hour shifts 100 years ago.

                  But , if your smugly happy with the way things are, fair enough.

                  So do us all a favour and don’t moan when people raise legitimate issues that may threaten your smug , twisted, servile , complacent little bubble , huh champ?

                  • Scott

                    Take a look back at our conversation WK. It started because I had the temerity to say that the country I (and you) chose to live in is a pretty good place to live. Your response has been angry, aggressive, profanity laden, and really a bit sad.

                    Well, this is a pretty good place to live. Not perfect, but where is. Capable of improvement via changes, sure. In need of a revolution, no.

                    If you are as unhappy and disillusioned with life here as you say, do yourself a favor, move.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Scott, its a shame that you have so little pride in what NZ could be, and so apology laden for the sad state that this country is in.

                      The neoliberal NZ today is the absolute antithesis of what Kiwis hoped their country would be when they returned from service in WWII.

                      Oh I agree, if you are earning above the average wage of ~$56K pa and you freehold own your home, life is very sweet in this country.

                      As long as you turn your nose up and look away from the NZers hungry and homeless on Queen St.

                    • Scott []

                      I have both pride in what it is, and aspiration for what it could be. Perfect? No, of course not. Hell in a handcart? No, of course not. But the reality of it is that if you think there is about to be some revolutionary change, you’re going to be disappointed. If that upsets you as much as it seems to upset WK, then save yourself an ulcer. Move. Life is too short to spend it as angry as WK seems to be.

                    • And the whole tone of what you have been saying all this time is basically Que Sera , sera…

                      And that’s the problem….

                      What is this ?…some sort of English sitcom where we all sit around the pub mumbling ‘ mustn’t grumble’ ???

                      There are serious issues confronting this country right now as we speak – and an even more serious situation looming on the horizon for this country’s domestic economy and its future credit rating aka the housing crisis – which is exacerbated by uncontrolled , poorly planned immigration policy’s that are only being used to bolster stats and downplay the seriousness to the general public of a do -nothing complacent govt that is too afraid to anything because it would impact on its housing portfolio/speculator voter base.

                      And all you’ve done so far is spout trite homily’s and platitudes about not moaning , not rocking the boat , same old same old, ‘ were so lucky ‘…ad nauseam.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      hi Scott, please don’t dance around the point that NZ is not the country it was intended to be, and instead has turned into a neoliberals banksters paradise.

                    • Scott []

                      Intended by whom?

                      Compared with the rest of the world I think it has turned out okay. Could be better, hopefully will be, but certianly could be worse.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Since you don’t understand these things Scott, we can agree to disagree.

                    • Scott []

                      It was a simple question, please don’t dance around it with an insult. You said it has not turned out as it was intended to be. Intended by whom?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Intended by the people who led this nation, who built our dams, and laid our rail, to ensure that every NZer would be cared for and looked after from the predations of capitalism, from the cradle to the grave.

                      As I said, not that you would understand.

                    • AB

                      “do yourself a favor, move.”
                      Hmm – am I seeing a pattern here? I was recently invited to leave the country of my birth by none other than ‘BM’ after I expressed dismay and disgust at children living in poverty.
                      I’m old enough to remember the pro-Vietnam war slogan from the late 60’s or maybe the 70’s: “America, love it or leave it”
                      Which implied that to criticise your country was proof of not loving it.
                      Are our local RW ‘friends’ trying same bullying tactic to shut down dissent, but overlaid with faux concern for the wellbeing of the complainant?

                    • Richard Rawshark

                      You came to stir. Be honest.

                      As for a good country to live. I’ve been to a few, Albania is better than here community and spirit wise. It’s all about perspective. Also here’s better for whom? The rich? The business people.

                      All down to perspective.

                      What we do have is a government ignoring sectors of the community, Doing some of the worst outcomes possible and masking their failures quite cleverly. Stifling media opposition and painting pretty pictures using spin.

                      We can all argue what’s good and bad, but at the end of the day, truth has truthful outcomes, IE homelessness will come back as real tragedies regardless of the spin.

                      Housing markets will crash.

                      Immigration will reach a maximum threshold

                      More Serious crimes will happen.

                      etc.

                      So it’s all good crowing as a nat and/or like people here moaning somewhere that no one hears, unable to get the truth/opposite point of view out.

                      But sooner or later the natural outcomes of these actions will occur.

                      On that day god /sarc help us all.

            • Gangnam Style 2.1.1.1.1.2

              “A great place to bring up kids”, we have some of the worse children suicides stats in the world, including children under 5 killing themselves, so I challenge the ‘great place to bring up kids’ meme.

              ” let’s not pretend the place is collapsing around our ears.”, tell that to the next generation or 2 of house seekers & entry job seekers.

              Just count yourself lucky you have the privilege of smugness, good to be you huh.

              • Scott

                Where would you rather live GS?

                I never said things were perfect, but don’t pretend it is hell in a handcart either.

                • I take it your thinking of redecorating that van you and your family are living in , eh mate?

                • ropata

                  Scott I agree many of us have a lot to be thankful for, but those of us fortunate enough to get a good roll of the dice have a responsibility to help others. Not pretend that the real, severe problems we face is a moaning campaign by the left. The original subject of this post is how the “good news” that Nact churns out is a deceptive PR campaign designed to make you feel good about NZ.

                  I recommend engaging your brain and admitting there is something very wrong in John Key’s New Zealand. Rivers and lakes are turning grey, fish stocks are gutted, wages are permanently depressed, housing is an ongoing clusterfuck. dirty politics is still operating under the radar, a million disconnected (poor) kiwis show no sign of bothering to vote, thousands of kids go hungry and sleep in cars.

                  Shame on us for believing the Nact party lies.

                  • UncookedSelachimorpha

                    +100

                  • Chuck

                    “The original subject of this post is how the “good news” that Nact churns out is a deceptive PR campaign designed to make you feel good about NZ.”

                    In a nut shell that perfectly explains the mindset of the activist left.

                    As in; Everyone else is dumb and blind…if only we could re-educate the masses to our way of thinking.

                    • ropata

                      no comment on the substance of the post then? just a stupid little rant about other people’s mindsets? i hope all the hungry kids enjoy eating your good news and sunshine.

                    • Stuart Munro

                      We must defer to your extensive knowledge of nut shells.

                • Red Hand

                  You had the temerity to say you think people want to move here because it is a pretty good place to be living and to bring up kids and you are proud of what it is and have aspiration for what it could be, not perfect and not a hell. The temerity makes your opinions sound dishonest.

            • Leftie 2.1.1.1.1.3

              What planet do you live on Scott?

              • mosa

                Leftie Scott lives on planet Key !!

              • Scott

                I live here by choice. I expect WK does the same. All I said was if WK is so deeply unhappy about his choice as he says he is, he should move to somewhere he’d be happier. Life is too short to be that unhappy.

                If he is waiting for the revolution, he is going to live a bitter life of disappointment. That seems a bit sad.

                • JonL

                  And therein lies your problem……you consider the population of NZ live here by “choice”…..a very smug, comfortable, middle class (in the worst way) opinion….as in….”everyone who finds life hard here can fuck off if they don’t like it because they all have enough for the air fare…….”

                  • Scott

                    That is not at all what I said. I was talking about WK. He seem profoundly unhappy about living here. I think he probably does have choice. If he is being honest about his anger, he should do himself a favour and move.

                    I suspect however that he will not, because his ranting is mostly hyperbole.

            • Stuart Munro 2.1.1.1.1.4

              To the extent that is true it is the product of a benign maritime climate, a low population, and the heritage of a cooperative and considerate society. The vicious erosions of neo-liberalism and the greed and incompetence of the Key Kleptocracy have made NZ hell on earth for those without secure jobs.

            • Anno1701 2.1.1.1.1.5

              ” A great place to bring up kids.”

              not in my experience at all…..

              and the experience of lots of people i know

              this is a classic one really…

              WHY is NZ such a great place to raise kids ?

              totally baffles me really, My childrens education slipped considerably when they changed from the UK education system , we have sky-high teen pregnancy and suicide rates, our youth smash them selves to pieces in unregulated/uninsured fast cars on the roads daily, Theirs no shortage of drugs/violence/crime & as we all know our level of child abuse are a national shame

              ” A great place to bring up kids.” righto , just like “100% pure NZ ”

              just a myth/sales pitch , NZ is an very VERY average place to raise children

  3. AmaKiwi 3

    Criminals buying up our land is a fantastic boost to GDP. Deduct that and what are the numbers.

    Oh, I forgot. We don’t know how much money that is because rich criminals are entitled to their privacy (secrecy).

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 3.1

      As they say, a car crash grows GDP.

      We should be chasing quality of life for all, not GDP.

  4. mary_a 4

    A good majority of rockstars burn and crash eventually, much sooner than expected, because they are unable to live up to the expectations put upon them by their “adoring fans” (read National supporters here).

    As for NZ’s growth. It’s only major growth industry at the present time is impoverishment, accompanied by homelessness. Then there is the so called building boom … Christchurch through a natural disaster, being used as one of the “feel good” factors of the economic upturn. Earthquakes being used as something positive for the rest of the country???? FFS!!!! Then there is the distorted construction activity in Auckland, where hundreds upon hundreds of shoe boxes are being built, one on top of the other, being passed off as family homes by this government, which eventually will become ghettos, worsening an already dire situation.

    Not a rockstar economy by any means. Just plain old bullshit to blind the faithful into believing something that is actually an illusion (rockstar), coming from a desperate deluded government drowning in its own putrid cesspit of corruption and lies.

  5. Leftie 5

    Economic lies about the “rock star economy”

    “The business media is all in an excited state over the fact that the headline growth rate for the New Zealand economy is going to around 3.5% for the year ending June. What they don’t tell you is that because of the artificial boost to the population as a result of the government opening the taps for new migrants the actual annual per capita growth rate is only 0.6%.”

    <a href="http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/09/13/economic-lies-about-the-rock-star-economy/

    Govt hails economic growth

    “The government is giving itself a pat on the back after the economy grew rapidly in the June quarter, but Labour reckons the true picture is not being painted by the figures.”

    <a href="https://nz.news.yahoo.com/top-stories/a/32624233/govt-hails-economic-growth/#page1

    • DH 5.1

      There is no ‘real’ growth Leftie, without immigration our economy would be shrinking.

      When people arrive here to live they need to buy a whole bunch of things that residents have already bought. Housing is the most obvious, then the likes of transport, furnishings & the accoutrements of employment etc.

      The point being that new migrants contribute far more to GDP than settled residents. That 3.5% population increase arguably accounted for 6-7% of GDP, possibly more.

      Immigration is a cynical political ponzi scheme. It only has economic benefits while it continues.

      • ropata 5.1.1

        Fucking great they contribute to GDP.

        But they don’t do anything else in the community, they take all the houses, they clog all the roads, they don’t bother to learn English, they don’t learn any social norms or politeness (coming from cultures where you have to claw and fight and backstab to get ahead), they don’t understand how democracy works (expecting nepotism, bribery and corruption to be the norm). They probably don’t vote, they don’t have any clue or appreciation for tangata whenua or the environment, they use all the facilities and institutions built by hard working kiwis, with zero appreciation. Half of the “jobs” they do are just importing crap from China, or setting up a 2 dollar shop for laundering money.

        We don’t need this kind of immigration.

  6. mpledger 6

    I was in Kaikoura and Picton about 18 months ago and so many of the service workers – at tourist attractions, cafes etc – came with foreign accents.

    I started talking to a young girl in a shop. She was going into year 13 and had two summer jobs – one of them because a family member owned the business and the other in the supermarket. I asked her what happened to the kids when they left school and she said some got farm work but most went to Christchurch to look for work or to train – usually for jobs in the big smoke, not for stuff relevant to Kaikoura.

    I can see why employers choose a 26 year old, uni graduates on their OE over an 18 year old school leaver – the former will have way more work experience, will need less supervision and training, will work for traveling money and will move on if they get shafted rather than cause a ruckus.

    But it’s going to kill places like Kaikoura and Picton. They can’t lose most of their 18 year olds, year after year after year to the big cities and not have it screw up their towns. All that will be left will be NZers over 65 and tourists servicing other tourists … and maybe a smattering of people who inherited the family farm.

    • Colonial Viper 6.1

      The establishmnt left wing is fine to see Auckland expand and expand and expand, until people don’t even have houses to live in, while regional NZ and provincial towns empty out.

      What a frigging joke.

      • Leftie 6.1.1

        But that’s what the Key NATIONAL GOVERNMENT are doing Colonial Viper.

        • Sabine 6.1.1.1

          Leftie, everything is Labours fault. Everything. 🙂

          its a bit like this

          https://cthulhuforamerica.com/

          vote Labour, cause voting for National is like voting for the lesser evil. Why vote for the lesser evil, vote Labour 🙂

          • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.1

            why vote for a market led, free trade practicing, neoliberal party at all?

            • Leftie 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Ask National supporters Colonial Viper.

              • Colonial Viper

                That’s an uninteresting endeavour. Far more interesting to ask a self-proclaimed “democratic socialist” party why it continues down that road at full speed.

                And why they believe that it has no connection with why its core voter base has fled it.

                • Leftie

                  I think Labour, that obviously still has a voter base, is well aware Colonial Viper. Labour is changing… out of small things big things grow. But why not put the focus back on the Nats? The current National government is inflicting the damage after all.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2

          Decimation of small town NZ started under Labour. Under Labour 5 Auckland houses became unaffordable for the average wage earner.

          • ropata 6.1.1.2.1

            for the last 9 elections kiwis have tried to vote in a government that actually worked for the people. instead we have just had a revolving door of neoliberal globalist lackeys.

            for me the biggest 2 issues have been 1. poverry 2. asset sales

            after Muldoon (misguided but decent IMO), every government has manifestly betrayed the people of NZ and every vote was a waste of my time.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2.1.1

              i would put our crumbling human capital in the top 3

            • WILD KATIPO 6.1.1.2.1.2

              @ ROPATA….

              And THAT …. is the root cause of so much of the social and economic devolution in this country.

              Thank you.

              It has mattered not if it has been a Labour or National govt. Since 1984 we have had nothing but this insidious neo liberal ideology riding roughshod over the wishes of the population to the point that it has become a sink or swim , dog eat dog , forced choosing between the lesser of two evils , – so much so that they now have us right where they wanted us – resigned, apathetic and dispirited.

              I would suggest a return to social democracy with a modernized Keynesian economic base.

              And for you neo liberals out there? … that means reigning in your excesses by regulation and yes… even the use of mechanisms such as tariffs. Tariffs that even your beloved example the USA uses to this very day.

              And that means no more free rides for the free marketers.

            • Halfcrown 6.1.1.2.1.3

              “after Muldoon (misguided but decent IMO), every government has manifestly betrayed the people of NZ and every vote was a waste of my time.”

              How bloody true ropata.

          • Leftie 6.1.1.2.2

            But not at the outrageous extent like it is now under John key though Colonial Viper and Labour have also been talking about how National has been neglecting the regions for a number of years now.
            When given a chance, Northland sure showed the way.

  7. Ad 7

    The political problem for a change of government is that the MSM and the banking and economic commentators keep reinforcing this “good news” of GDP growth, which really limits getting alternative messages either from Labour-Greens to the dispossessed citizen, or from them to Labour-Greens.

    Many have commented about how unconnected GDP is to lived reality. I generally agree. I see the GDP growth issue as a political problem caused by MSM messaging dominance.

    • UncookedSelachimorpha 7.1

      +1

    • Colonial Viper 7.2

      Firstly, Labour loves GDP as a measure and it loved GDP as a measure during the 5th Labour Govt. And why shouldn’t they? It is the accepted neoliberal metric of top level economic activity.

      Secondly, the bottom 50% to 60% of the population has known with absolute certainty for years and years that the economy hasn’t been getting better for them; quite the reverse in fact.

      But they’re still not going to vote Labour.

      • Leftie 7.2.1

        “the bottom 50% to 60% of the population has known with absolute certainty for years and years that the economy hasn’t been getting better for them; quite the reverse in fact” under the NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, so why wouldn’t they vote for an alternative Lab/Green government Colonial Viper?

        • Colonial Viper 7.2.1.1

          I dunno, why don’t you ask the 81% of adult NZers who didn’t vote for Labour in 2014.

          Most of them were from the poorer deciles who have been doing much less well since Rogernomics.

          • Leftie 7.2.1.1.1

            What for Colonial Viper? that was 2 years ago and aren’t you being a trifle misleading and one eyed? Is everything always so cut and dried for you?

            Rogernomics was over 30 years ago, there has been a disastrous National government and in comparison, a successful 3 termed Labour government since then. And now NZ is being terrorized by the worst self serving National government in this country’s history.

            Can homeless people vote?

            • Colonial Viper 7.2.1.1.1.1

              I predict in the coming election, one in five kiwis will vote Labour.

              • Leftie

                Predictions like assumptions and can also turn out to be wrong. I would rather wait for the results on election day rather than waste my time guessing, as anything can happen.

    • Chuck 7.3

      As CV mentions Labour and the Greens love to use statistics as much as anyone else. They have no alternative message to give.

      That is how they come up with a “crisis” by using data to try and support it.

      And simply put – GDP does measures the performance of an economy. Most citizens understand this.

      “I see the GDP growth issue as a political problem caused by MSM messaging dominance.”

      You see it as an issue because it does not fit your narrative of NZ going to hell. Now if the GDP figures were in the negative (bad for the Government)…I bet you would be shouting the merits of the MSM reporting it.

      • WILD KATIPO 7.3.1

        And…..

        Te Puea Marae?

        The Salvation Army ?

        Women’s Refuge ? ( whats left of them )

        Youth Suicide Prevention ?

        How about the homeless family’s living in garages and vans?

        How about the parents of children forced to live in damp , unheated houses , – children with chronic respiratory disease?

        Paula Bennett and her $5000.00 bribes to get out of town – and another bribe to come back again?

        C’mon ! Add to the list ! – this is only a smidgen of what can be added.

        Oh yes – were doing so fucking well in John Keys fucking brighter future, aren’t we all now… so well things like this look positively encouraging when John Key promised to raise NZ ers’ quality of life 8 years ago.

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10468960/Aroha-of-McGehan-Close-flees-NZ

        This govt’s got a colossal nerve to even dare to show its face and bleat on about how we’re all doing so well.

        An absolute colossal nerve.

        • Chuck 7.3.1.1

          Why don’t you invent a time machine and transport yourself back to 1970’s?

          Mean while the rest of NZ can get on with whats required.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/84344571/govts-750m-northcote-housing-project-a-sign-of-the-times

          • WILD KATIPO 7.3.1.1.1

            Why don’t you have a wee talk to these social agency’s and churches and the like and ask them their opinion of social health since 1984?

            You know the ones – those that have persistently spoken out against the effects of neo liberalism since 1984?

            Not quite the 1970’s?

            And sorry bud , – the time machines broken . But I have an alternative suggestion for apologists of neo liberalism such as yourself :

            Pull your head out of your backside and try being honest for a change. And by that I mean stop fantasizing about stats that bolster up your chosen ideology and take a good hard look around. Go have a talk to those actively trying to pick up the pieces of smashed family’s that have to operate on ever decreasing slices of the budget – then go explain to them why the GSCB and SIS get an extraordinary amount allocated to them to surveill the public of this country.

            And if you cant do that , piss off back to the USA where you too,… can sneer at the poor sleeping rough on the streets as you roar past in your SUV …. oh wait… you can do that here now thanks to your beloved imported neo liberalism.

      • Ad 7.3.2

        I would certainly start to worry if the unemployment stats started to go over 6% unemployed. In fact I think most people would.

        There’s no doubt this GDP number is seen as good news and narrows the field of discourse for the Opposition. They just have to be smarter and harder about how they show how hollow and brittle this economy is.

        That’s going to be tough, but it’s the task ahead of them.

  8. reason 8

    Nationals economy is like a rock star on a bender …………..

    New Zealand is the hotel room ……………..

    • Leftie 8.1

      What a mess!!! +1 Reason

    • North 8.2

      Difference here being that rockstars on a bender usually apologise (if disingenously), pay for the damage, and slink away to their next gig. Here they stay and blame and defame the minmim wage hotel workers whose raison d’etre is to ‘serve’, apparently. The picture of vile entitlement !

      This rock star shit is the construct of the National Party’s Crosby Textor minders. Rockstar shit pumped out to inculcate that an effete, simpering, lying drip of a man is truly a rockstar with whom we are just dying to have a beer. “Fuck the undeserving drug and booze addled poor. Go the illiterate preening narcissist !”

      Thank you the wannabe, wahanui, ignorant cafe society dolts of the MSM who applaud it.

  9. Ad 9

    We could also take the GDP (imperfect as it is) seriously and prepare for a really good economy.

    Construction and immigration will continue to suppress total unemployment in the cities.

    Tourism boom will continue to push specific regions.

    But if Fonterra posts a profit of close to $900m next week – best profit ever – and total Fonterra payout heads for $5.35, then many other regions will get a major push.

    I’m not saying there’s anything directly attributable to the government’s management in this. But it would be pretty hard for an Opposition to successfully claim that things are going downhill for many, when there are so many signals that they aren’t.

    • Wayne 9.1

      Ad,

      I think your plea is falling on deaf ears. Most commentators here (to quote Leftie) think most NZers are being terrorised by the govt for continuing the neo-liberal experiment.

      Enough Labour activists and parliamentarians read this site and take their cues from it. Therefore their rhetoric tends to reflect that everything in NZ is a disaster. But that is at odds with most peoples real world experiences. That is not to say there are no problems but trying to convince NZ’ers they are living in the worst of times is just seen by a large percentage of voters as stupid.

      NZ should have a viable opposition, one that has some understanding why their opponents are succeeding and not pretending it is all a gigantic con job. That way they can have realistic policies, and more importantly not trying to assert that everything in NZ is a disaster.

      The Nats leant that lesson during 2005 to 2008. We didn’t try and pretend that everything that Labour touched turned to clay. We gave them credit for things the NZ public had obviously accepted (Kiwisaver, Interest Free loans, Working for Families) and then set about proposing the things we would do and why they would be better. Some employment law reform, the tax package, RMA reform, tougher on crime, more accountability in welfare, restraining the size of govt, less petty regulation were the main things.

      I don’t see Labour doing the things that looks like it is getting ready for govt.

      • Chuck 9.1.1

        Well said Wayne, now if you were Andrew Little’s new Chief of Staff that kind of thinking would see Labour poll worries ease somewhat.

        • left for dead 9.1.1.1

          Well said Wayne, (I say that in ) my High most annoying voice.
          Wayne tell me, what was your roll in the building regulator changes which brought us what I would contented started the housing crises.
          Leaking homes

          Or will you just lift a buttock, an let out another enormous fart.

      • reason 9.1.2

        Well New Zealand did not see the tax haven the National party was building until the Panama papers ……. even though with Key wanking on about Jersey

        ” When officials in Moscow wanted to hide the Communist party’s funds in the last days of the Soviet Union, they put them in Jersey. When post-Soviet oligarchs wanted to obscure their ownership of assets, they structured them through Jersey. When South Africans wanted to avoid apartheid-related sanctions, they did so through Jersey.” https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/08/fall-of-jersey-how-tax-haven-goes-bust

        and Nicky Hager became the target of nationals dirty politics unit for this article http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/money/8515361/Money-trail-leads-home-to-New-Zealand

        Wayne mapp was crying for us to get involved in an illegal war when he was in opposition

        http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/search?q=mapp%2Bwar

        ” In the leadup to the Iraq war, National MPs were howling for New Zealand to back the US and get involved. Then Foreign Affairs spokesperson Wayne Mapp complained that we had questioned US intelligence on WMDs (I bet he feels stupid now)”

        ” the fact remains that under international law, any non-defensive war waged without its approval is illegal and a crime. So when Wayne Mapp says he doesn’t want our foreign policy to be subject to a UN veto, what he is really saying is that he wants to wage war in contravention of international law and the UN charter – in other words, he wants us to be a rogue nation ….”

      • Red Hand 9.1.3

        The Nats are not talking about or doing anything effective to tackle the root causes of crime and the need for welfare. It’s hard to accept, but it looks like they basically don’t give a shit. Like it was with Muldoon, they are looking after their mates and not governing with the wellbeing of all in mind. You are doing alright but there are many non-voters who are not.

      • WILD KATIPO 9.1.4

        @ WAYNE

        And did that so called ‘ improvement’ for the people of NZ include those who are the working poor or the unemployed?

        How about the latest National scam – the attempts to sell off and privatize state housing?

        Or have you forgotten this other little scam / stunt so easily?…

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10468960/Aroha-of-McGehan-Close-flees-NZ

  10. reason 10

    Increased Housing stress and water quality that can only get shittier could be weak points for them ……………. with a side order of climate change fraud http://hot-topic.co.nz/moro-bars-and-triple-dips-geoff-simmons-fact-checks-paula-bennetts-clean-unit-claim/#more-15218

    And what type of dodgy manager comes up with contracts like this …. ” a contentious exemption of professional services firms – mostly lawyers, accountants and real estate agents – from being covered by anti-money laundering laws passed in 2009.” http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11706741

    Is Don King running the show ? …………………

  11. Scott 11

    To Colonial Viper:

    Sorry I could not reply above. I’m not sure how you purport to know the intentions of those workers that built the dams or the roads (or how they might have had a collective intention anyway), but even if you did what makes their intentions for our country any more important than the intentions of those went before them or came after them? Just that you like those intentions (or your perception of them) because they conform with your own?

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      Hi Scott, I’m no longer interested in debating this with you. I have answered your question, and as I already supposed, you don’t understand the answer.

      In summary, I choose their view and their values of NZ over that of your neoliberal bankster mates.

      • Scott 11.1.1

        Fair enough. I’m not sure why you started handing out insults you seem unwilling to justify, but even if you hate the country you chose to live in I hope it made you feel a bit better about it. I’m off to watch some rugby then.

        Have fun playing keyboard revolutionary with the like-minded.

        • vto 11.1.1.1

          Why do you imagine people have a choice all the time?

          I mean really, that’s just plain silly.. and renders your opinions, on which that imagining is based, worthless

          • Scott 11.1.1.1.1

            I don’t imagine all people have a choice, and never said that. I was talking about WK, and about CV when he join the tread. I do imagine they have options.

    • joe90 11.2

      intentions of those workers that built the dams or the roads

      I was one of those workers that built the dams and I was doing it because it was my job and I thought every NZer would be cared for and looked after from the predations of capitalism, from the cradle to the grave.

      • Scott 11.2.1

        Would it be fair to say you did it because it was your job. And separately you hoped… Or was your aspiration for how we organise ourselves a reason why you chose to do the job your employer asked you to do?

        • ropata 11.2.1.1

          there used to be something called the “social contract” where joe90’s taxes went to support social programmes, and the nation as a whole benefited from projects like dam building.

          it can be hard to comprehend from where we stand today, after 32 years of Rogernomics, aka “fuck-you-nomics”

        • Red Hand 11.2.1.2

          “the job your employer asked you to do” This limits what the employees do and is one cause of lower productivity and lack of innovation.

          • Scott 11.2.1.2.1

            I agree, but hardly think the decision to build a dam or a road is a good example of it.

            I’m not sure we would want a construction worker on a dam build thinking it was okay to modify the construction as she went because she considered she saw a better way to design it.

  12. Ross 12

    Meanwhile, some farmers are slow on the uptake and are being taken to task. It’s probably the tip of the iceberg. Too many workers are being exploited by pernicious employers.

    http://www.mbie.govt.nz/about/whats-happening/news/inspectorate-to-fine-farmers-who-fail-to-act-on-employment-obligations

    • Ad 12.1

      We have such weak regulators in:

      – Banking. Reserve Bank may keep us stable but its ambit is ridiculously narrow. And far too many shady mezzanine finance criminals were never held to account by the SFO

      – Fishing. See the footage of Maui dolphins pulled up in nets. The footage of fish dumped. No prosecutions.

      – Streams and rivers. We all know the story of farmer owned-and-operated regional councils

      – Property markets. The times you hear of real estate agents being disbarred are incredibly rare, compared to the corruption in see all around me in both Auckland and Queenstown-Lakes

      etc. List get too depressing.

      I would seriously like a new government to smash the crap out of corporate corruption in New Zealand. We would all feel better about the economy generally if the rich were simply held accountable for criminal acts.

  13. Murray Simmonds 13

    According to “Investopedia”,

    “Measuring GDP is complicated (which is why we leave it to the economists), but at its most basic, the calculation can be done in one of two ways: either by adding up what everyone earned in a year (income approach), or by adding up what everyone spent (expenditure method). Logically, both measures should arrive at roughly the same total.

    So I take that to mean, among other things that

    (a) If every married couple in NZ were to suddenly file for divorce, the measured GDP would go through the roof and JK would be smiling ear-to-ear” and crowing about the “Rockstar Economy”. The increase in GDP would be due to the extra work heading the way of lawyers, marriage counsellors etc. Hard to see how the COUNTRY or the ECONOMY would be any better off, though.

    (b) Similarly, if house prices suddenly doubled, all the extra commissions payable to real estate agents would double (approximately). This too would contribute to a massive gain in measured GDP. Again I fail to see how this would be of any benefit whatsoever to the country or the economy.

    Take home message: GDP is a bloody useless measure of the health of the Nation’s economy.

  14. BlueSky 14

    I would say that not all growth is good. Many neoliberal policies pursued by the government have become a cancer that is destroying future generations prosperity and life. Like cancer it is destroying future life. Like cancer many do not know they have it until it is too late. Like cancer it acquires good cells and subverts the cells mechanisms to reproduce more of its fatal kind. Like cancer it has spread throughout the governmental body.
    Just because we have growth does not mean the country is healthy.

  15. Murray Simmonds 15

    I agree, BlueSky, “Not all growth is good”.

    However IMO is questionable whether the country even has growth. Sure, measured GDP may be up. But my question is this; “How much of the measured increase in GDP is derived solely from “growth” (i.e. increased expenditure) in the SERVICES sector?

    I’d be more interested in seeing a measure of what the country has produced in hard goods (i.e. with services excluded). Because in the end that is what creates or maintains jobs. And that is what we sell locally and overseas.

    NZ, the USA, even China have shown big increases (“growth’) in their service sectors over the last few years. In my view these increases in services merely mask the “true” growth (if any) in their economies as measured by GDP.

    In NZ simply measuring GST collected in any one year might be just as “good” as measure of “economic growth” as our current measures of GDP (because practically all goods and services are taxed in NZ).

  16. maninthemiddle 16

    “I’m still all for a better measure of economic “health” than GDP & its growth…”

    Yes, of course you are. Like all leftie’s you’re in denial of how well NZ is doing, to the point of rejecting traditional and sound measurements.

    • ropata 16.1

      the fact that a few people are making $$$ like bandits does not mean that the rest of NZ is doing well.

    • Stuart Munro 16.2

      It’s the feral gibbering far-right neo-liberal cultists like yourself that have broken with tradition MiM – redefining problems instead of solving them.

      The hell with that!

      And the hell with you and all your disgusting kleptocrat mates.

      • maninthemiddle 16.2.1

        I am neither ‘far-right’ or ‘neo-liberal’. And our government certainly isn’t, despite your delusions.

        • North 16.2.1.1

          So what are you MITM ? The adage – “sounds and walks and looks……” – does come to mind.

          • maninthemiddle 16.2.1.1.1

            I’m centre right. As is most of NZ.

            • Paul 16.2.1.1.1.1

              Like Genghis Khan was centre right.

              • maninthemiddle

                I’d be happy to engage you in positioning on the political spectrum.

                  • maninthemiddle

                    Did it. I am bang on the centre line between left and right, and one square into libertarian.

                    • Paul

                      So what answers are dragging you to the left, do you think?
                      Because the only views we hear on this site would push you off the chart on the right and off the chart as a libertarian.

                    • maninthemiddle

                      “Because the only views we hear on this site would push you off the chart on the right and off the chart as a libertarian.”

                      An example?

                  • Chuck

                    Hope you don’t mind Paul but I have just clicked onto the link you supplied and completed the test.

                    Now I consider myself centre right (but have voted centre left in the past).

                    The result from the test has me slightly left and slightly libertarian…in other words close to the cross hairs in the graph.

                    Being labeled “far right” on this blog makes me smile 🙂

                    • maninthemiddle

                      You’re close to my result. Most NZ’ers are centrist/centre right, hence voting patterns for the past 30years.

                    • Naki man

                      I am slightly left and slightly authoritarian
                      and i agree with Chuck and Maninthemiddle.
                      I would be interested to know if Paul is on the graph.

                    • Chuck

                      Yes, it would be interesting to see where some of the activist lefties are on this test…Paul / OAB / MM etc?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Libertarian invents valid political measuring device, said no fact based analysis ever.

                      Ayn Rand’s witless cult is one of the axes? How convenient.

                      Why doesn’t it measure truthism and conspiracy drivel too?

        • Stuart Munro 16.2.1.2

          ‘Our’ government is so corrupt and dishonest its position on the left/right scale is largely irrelevant. They have proven themselves incapable of managing the economy and delivering social services and your desperate flurry of denials and excuses doesn’t make them a whit better.

          • maninthemiddle 16.2.1.2.1

            This government has proven themselves to be amongst the best economic managers in the western world.

            Look Stuart I remember when people on the far right used to make the same crazy claims you’re making about the Clark government. NZ governments are not infallible, but to label them corrupt just shows how desperate and out of touch with reality you are.

    • North 16.3

      Exponential increase in cars and people movers in public parks containing entire families is NZ doing well ? You’re fucked Muck !

      • maninthemiddle 16.3.1

        “Exponential increase in cars and people movers in public parks containing entire families is NZ doing well ? ”

        It’s a sign of people making bad choices. On the other hand, low debt, internal accounts in balance, low inflation, low interest rates, high employment, low unemployment, solid and sustainable growth all add up to the country doing very well indeed.

  17. mosa 17

    At the end of the day we could adopt these alternatives….if we really wanted to.
    These ideas should be pursued by the Labour party and give us a REAL choice instead of more of the same .
    Maybe were still a few years away yet before we wake up and realise it can be better.
    We live in hope there is a Key-neo lib free NZ if we are given the choice to vote for it.
    Canada did !

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    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    14 hours ago
  • Bullying their critics
    Over the past month we've heard some horrific stories about bullying in the police. The police's response? Try to bully people into silence:The police have told a whistleblower to retract his statements to RNZ about being bullied or face legal action. The demand came just hours after Police Commissioner Mike ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    17 hours ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 5
    Today is a Member's Day, which should see the final part of the committee stage of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. The big question today is the referendum clause: will it be necessary, or can the bill pass without it? While the majorities for his amendments during the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    18 hours ago
  • There is no ‘gendered brain’
    One of the key arguments used by trans ideologists is that some male-bodied people (ie men) are women because they ‘feel’ they are women.  To make this hocus-pocus sound a bit more credible, some will argue that such men have a ‘female brain’.  But this is thoroughly anti-scientific too. . ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    18 hours ago
  • Canada’s electoral system is broken
    Canadians went to the polls today in parliamentary elections, and appear to have re-elected blackface wearer Justin Trudeau. Unfortunately, they use first-past-the-post, and they've provided a perfect demonstration of how unfair this system is:PartySeats% Seats% VoteLiberal15746.4%33.1%Conservative12135.8%34.4%Bloc Québécois329.5%7.7%New Democratic Party247.1%15.9%Green Party30.9%6.5%Other10.3%2.4% [Results from Elections Canada] Yes, the Liberals got fewer votes ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Measles: the quackery that is homeopathic “vaccination”
    A few days ago, a friend sent me a link to a health-related FB page that had published a post from a homeopathist, offering homeopathic “vaccination”¹ against measles (using something called a “Morbillinum nosode” at a “potency” of 200C, which I’ll explain shortly). I followed the link, left a comment ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    1 day ago
  • Colombia: 20th anniversary of La Gabarra massacre
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh This year marks the 20th anniversary of the La Gabarra massacre. The community organised an event to remember the most well-known of the horrendous heart-breaking events that befell the communities of this area of the municipality of Tibú: the massacre carried out on August 21st 1999. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • A prediction
    There was another police chase in Christchurch this morning, resulting in a crash which killed one person and injured five more. Because someone died, the chase is being investigated by the Independent Police Conduct Authority. And based on previous reports by the IPCA, we know how it will go: the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: The Zero Carbon Bill
    Just a month ago we saw the biggest protest in a generation as people marched to demand stronger action on climate change. A core demand of the protesters was to strengthen the Zero Carbon Bill's target to net-zero by 2040. So what is the government's response? Judging by the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Zombie ants, updated
    Back in 2010, I wrote about the strange tale of the zombie ants, which do the bidding of their fungal overlords. (They’re not an isolated example; a range of parasites change their hosts’ behaviour. See here and here for example – though as you’ll find, the toxoplasmosis story may be ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 days ago
  • Paying For Our Pakeha “Guilt” And “Privilege”.
    Shouldn't That Be: "Wrong White Crowd"? Rather than apportion guilt, would it not have been wiser for the makers of Land Of The Long White Cloud to accept that the Pakeha of 2019 are not – and never will be – “Europeans”? Just as contemporary Maori are not – and ...
    2 days ago
  • A Bodyguard of Truths.
    One, Two, Many Truths: With the collapse of “actually existing socialism” in 1991, the universities of the West found themselves saddled with a new mission. With their ideological competitors now soundly defeated they were no longer required to demonstrate the superiority of capitalist values. Their job now was to cement ...
    2 days ago
  • A call to unionists
    by the Council of Disobedient Women   We call on the Council of Trade Unions to show some fortitude and take a stand with your sisters. Unionists know that there is a material world, otherwise workers could simply identify out of poverty. They could declare themselves Well Paid. Why stop ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Sophistry and bullshit
    I spent some time reading the Regulatory Impact Statement and Bill of Rights Act advice for the government's odious control order scheme today. I am not impressed with either of them. Starting with the RIS, it is built on some pretty questionable assumptions. For example:Unless individuals have been convicted of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • I’m so fly, I’m #NoFly!
    #NoFly: Walking the talk on climate change, by Shaun Hendy. BWB Texts, 2019. Reviewed by Robert McLachlan In June 2018, Swede Maja Rosén founded We stay on the ground with a pledge not to fly in 2019, and a goal of persuading 100,000 other Swedes to join her. In August, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Punishing the young
    We all know that NZ First is a party of and for old people who hate the young. But they've topped their previous pedophobia with a proposal that all young people be forced to do 100 hours community work:NZ First wants all young people to do 100 hours of community ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Journalism, clickbait, & ideas of classical beauty – but not science
    A couple days ago the NZ Herald published a story with the headline, “Science says Bella Hadid is world’s most beautiful woman“, and followed up with the ridiculous statement that Supermodel Bella Hadid has been declared as the world’s most beautiful woman following a scientific study into what constitutes as ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    3 days ago
  • Is Simon’s Smile Sustainable?
    A Sustainable Proposition: With as much as 18 percent of the electorate declaring itself “undecided” about who to vote for, there is obviously plenty of space for a party like former Green Party member, Vernon Tava's, about-to-be-launched "Sustainable NZ Party" to move into. The most hospitable political territory for such ...
    3 days ago
  • What the actual Hell?
    Keir Starmer has hinted that Labour might vote in favour of the Johnson government's shoddy deal, with the proviso that a second referendum is attached:Speaking to BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show, he said: “We will see what that looks like but it makes sense to say that by whatever ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: Dealer’s Choice, an oral history from Planet 1994
    In 1994, I was the editor for an issue of Planet magazine focused on cannabis, its culture and the prospects for the end of its prohibition. Part of that issue was an interview with 'Ringo', an experienced cannabis dealer.I recently posted my essay from that issue, and I figured it ...
    5 days ago
  • The invasion of women’s sports by men: some facts
    Dr Helen Waite, sports sociologist and former elite athlete, on the invasion of women’s sport by men and the anti-scientific and misogynist ideology used to rationalise it.   ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Remainers starting to sound like fascists
    As Brexit comes to a grisly conclusion (perhaps) people on all sides are saying intemperate and uwise things.  Some, like the Daly Mail, have been doing it for years.People as normally level headed as Jon Lansman are calling for automatic deselection of MPs who vote against a (likely) Labour three ...
    5 days ago
  • Labour MPs supporting Johnson’s turd-sandwich deal?
    I find this unbelievable:
    I've got one source saying more Labour MPs than expected are mulling whether to vote for the deal - including names who were not on the letter to Juncker and Tusk— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) 17 October 2019 I've compiled a list of possible reasons why Labour ...
    5 days ago
  • Why do we need control orders again?
    On Wednesday, the government was loudly telling us that it needed to legislate to allow it to impose "control orders" - effectively a parole regime, but imposed without charge, prosecution, conviction or real evidence - on suspected terrorists because they couldn't be prosecuted for their supposed crimes. Today, it turns ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Bullshitting the Minister
    On Monday, the Hit and Run inquiry heard from NZDF's former director of special operations, who claimed that the defence Minister knew everything about the Operation Burnham raid. Today, the inquiry heard from that (former) Minister - and it turns out that he didn't know nearly as much as NZDF ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speaker: Extinction Rebellion is not a cult (but ecstasy for the people)
    Yoga gurus and cult leaders – I’ve seen a few. Two weeks ago, I unknowingly joined an alleged new-age cult at the Kāpiti coast, together with a giant kraken and some neatly dressed pensioners who would make any book club proud.They were among the two hundred people of all ages ...
    6 days ago
  • We need to bring the police under control
    The last decade has seen a trend of increasing weapons availability to police. Assault rifles. Tasers on every hip. Guns in cars. And following the march 15 massacre, pistols on every hip, all over the country. At the same time, its also seen an increase in the abuse of force: ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • If you can’t measure it, does it exist?
    In the last couple of weeks, I’ve been busy preparing for our summer paper on Science Communication. Looking for something amusing about ‘risk’ in science, I came across this neat xkcd.com cartoon about why so many people come knocking on my door (or phoning me, or emailing me) desperately wanting ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    6 days ago
  • Swinson’s swithering
    Jo Swinson is doing even worse at this Being Sensible lark that I'd thought.  I've just become aware of the following utterance
    .@KayBurley presses Lib Dem leader @joswinson on whether she would agree to a #Brexit deal 'no matter how bad a deal it is' as long as it had ...
    6 days ago
  • Women’s rights, trans ideology and Gramsci’s morbid symptoms
    by John Edmundson The International Socialist Organisation (ISO) have recently reposted a February article, by Romany Tasker-Poland, explaining ISO’s position in the “trans rights” debate.  It is available on their website and on their Facebook Page.  The article sets out to explain why “socialists support trans rights”.  It reads more ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • We need to take guns off police
    Today's IPCA report of police criminality: a police officer unalwfully tasered a fleeing suspect who posed no threat to anyone:The police watchdog has found an officer unlawfully tasered an Auckland man who broke his ankle jumping off a balcony to escape arrest. [...] To avoid arrest, the man jumped over ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • “Bringing kindness back”
    "Auckland City Mission: 10% of Kiwis experiencing food insecurity", RNZ, 16 October 2019:About half a million people are experiencing food insecurity, according to new research from the Auckland City Mission. Food insecurity, or food poverty, is defined as not having enough appropriate food. The City Mission said over the last ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Press Release: “Fake News” from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance b...
    Media Statement for Immediate Release 16th October 2019 “Fake News” from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance bonuses for top managers Despite comments from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance bonuses for top managers—Herald Newspaper Tuesday Oct 15th–there is very little evidence ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    7 days ago
  • Ever-So-Slightly Bonkers: Simon Bridges Plays To His Base.
    Would You Buy A Used Propaganda Video From This Man? Bridges and the National Party’s strategists have discovered that the ideas and attitudes considered acceptable by today’s editors and journalists are no longer enforceable. The rise and rise of the Internet and the social media platforms it spawned means that ...
    7 days ago
  • Asking for food
    There is plenty of evidence of the way the business mentality has permeated every level of society since the recrudescence of market liberalism 35 years ago. You only need to think of how citizens in need of help from their government, their state, their country, are now routinely described as ...
    Opposable ThumbBy Unknown
    7 days ago
  • Forty years of change in the jobs Kiwi do and the places they call home
    John MacCormick Over the last 40 years, New Zealanders – and people in other countries – have experienced big changes in the jobs they do and where they live and work. These changes include: a decline in manufacturing jobs an increase in jobs in ‘information-intensive’ industries (which are better paid ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    7 days ago
  • Protecting Fresh Waterways in Aotearoa/NZ: The Strong Public Health Case
    Nick Wilson, Leah Grout, Mereana Wilson, Anja Mizdrak, Phil Shoemack, Michael Baker Protecting waterways has the benefits of: (1) protecting water from hazardous microbes; (2) minimising cancer risk and other problems from nitrates in water; (3) avoiding algal blooms that are hazardous to health; (4) protecting mahinga kai uses (cultural ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Massey University triggered to rebrand
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In a press release today Massey University announced it has decided to rebrand and reorientate after struggling to be a University for grown-ups. For some time the University has wanted to be a safe play space for wee-woke-misogynists who have been really badly triggered ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Swinson backing calls for a second referendum (again)
    After a brief dalliance with 'hard Revoke' it looks like the Lib Dems are changing ground on on Brexit, with leader Jo Swinson reverting to calling for a second referendum on Johnson's deal.The party has tabled an amendment to the Queen’s speech requesting that any deal brought back from Brussels ...
    1 week ago
  • An odious bill
    The government has decided that someone has done Something Bad. But despite their belief, there seems to be no evidence that they have actually broken the law. So the government's solution is to pass a retrospective law allowing them to be punished anyway, on a lower standard of proof. If ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • National is now the party of climate arson
    So, Judith Collins has done a Facebook rant about climate change, peddling the same shit National has been shovelling for the past twenty years: the impacts are overstated, there's no need to do anything about it, and its too hard anyway (oh, and its so unfair that people who peddle ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The environmental footprint of electric versus fossil car
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz There is a lot of discussion on the benefits of ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • “Manifest” by Andrew Bird – A Song For The Times.
    I came across this song quite by accident. If it isn't one of Greta Thunberg's favourites - it should be.Video courtesy of YouTube.This post is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    1 week ago
  • Passing the buck
    Last month, NZDF's shoddy coverup of what it knew about civilian casualties in Operation Burnham began to fall apart, with the revelation that a report on the matter, which NZDF claimed not to have, had been sitting in an NZDF safe for the past nine years. Yesterday, the man responsible ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • India a major player in Earth observation satellites
    While many imagine that countries like the USA and Europe dominate space activities, in fact India is now a major player on this stage. It launches satellites for its own purposes and also commercially, and has constellations orbiting our planet and returning data of vital importance to that nation in ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • The rot at the top (2).
    Thanks to a report from the Acting Inspector General of Intelligence and Security following a complaint by Nicky Hager, we have come to find out that the SIS illegally spied on Mr. Hager on behalf of the NZDF after publication of Hager’s 2011 book, Other People’s Wars. The NZDF justified ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Common misconceptions about “Global Warming”
    COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate. FACT: The HadCRUT3 surface temperature index, produced by the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, shows warming to 1878, cooling to 1911, ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 week ago
  • A climate of tyranny
    For the past week, Extinction Rebellion has been peacefully protesting in London to demand action on climate change. The British government's response? Ban their protests:Police have banned Extinction Rebellion protests from continuing anywhere in London, as they moved in almost without warning to clear protesters who remained at the movement’s ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Collins crushes climate
    An essay by Judith Collins MP reported on Carbon News yesterday seems to show an alarming shift in attitude within the National Party. Collins argues against the Zero Carbon Bill, the Paris Agreement, and downplays the magnitude of climate impacts. The Paris Agreement was adopted in December 2015 and ratified ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • More disappointment
    When they were running for election, Labour promised to overhaul the Employment Relations Act and introduce fair pay agreements to set basic pay and conditions on an industry level, preventing bad employers from undercutting good ones. They followed this up by establishing a working group, which reported back in January ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • What do these mother-child studies really say about fluoridation?
    A list of indicators of bad science – many of these are found in articles promoted by anti-fluoride activists. Anti-fluoride activists have been pouring money into a scaremongering campaign warning pregnant women not to drink fluoridated water. They claim fluoride will lower the IQ of their future child. Fluoride ...
    1 week ago
  • Losing Labour’s Mills-Tone.
    Nothing Left To Say: Labour's pollster, Stephen Mills, remains swaddled-up in the comforting myths of the 1980s. As if the experience of Roger Douglas’s genuinely radical post-Muldoon policy agenda was literally a once-in-a-lifetime thing – as much as the party could possibly absorb for at least the next 50 years.MEMO ...
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Disability and the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
    The Royal Commission on abuse in care is very significant for the disability community. For many decades last century, thousands of disabled children, and adults who managed to survive, were locked away from families and communities. This was not for anything they had done, but for the perceived threat their ...
    1 week ago
  • Spain is not a democracy
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • UK Conservatives hate democracy
    With an unfair voting system, uneven electorates and an un-elected upper house, the UK's "democracy" is barely worthy of the name. But now the government wants to make it worse:The government has been accused of suppressing voters’ rights with the potential disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of people after plans ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • What is wrong with our building industry?
    Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the building industry was building leaky homes which should never have been granted consent. Now it turns out they've been building dodgy office blocks as well:New imaging technology has revealed hundreds of major buildings nationwide have defective or missing concrete or reinforcing steel. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Local bodies
    Local body election results were released over the weekend, to joy or despair depending on where you live. In Auckland, Phil Goff trounced John Tamihere, who is muttering darkly about running for Parliament again (but which party would want him?) Wellington is now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Weta Workshop, except ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A future of government
      How could government evolve over the next decades? Reports of democracy’s imminent demise are greatly exaggerated.  However, satisfaction with political systems in many countries is low, so there is much to do for governments of all political stripes to improve relevance and trust. Digital technologies are seen as one ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    2 weeks ago
  • Speaker: Catalonia, interrupted
    Two years have now gone by since the Friday afternoon when my university-student son and I headed out of our Barcelona flat to a nearby primary school, designated as a polling station for the vote that was to be held the following Sunday: the referendum on Catalonia’s independence from Spain ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Sage Decisions Unwisely Over-Ruled.
    Overruled: The joint decision of Finance Minister, Grant Robertson (Labour) and his Associate Minister, David Parker (Labour) arguably the two most powerful ministers in Jacinda Ardern’s government, to grant OceanaGold the consents which Land Information Minister, Eugenie Sage (Greens) had earlier denied them, offers bitter proof of how hard fighting ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government may ban voting in effort to get more people to do it
    More than double the number of people who will vote in this year’s local body elections have tried marijuana or urinated somewhere they shouldn’t have. As local elections look set for the lowest turnout in decades, with many regions falling well short of 40%, the Government is exploring a number ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Woman: Deleted.
    A Statement on Abortion Law Reform by the Council of Disobedient Women   On the eve of bringing an end to antiquated, anti-women abortion laws Green MP Jan Logie intends to write women out of the Bill. With a stroke of the pen, the woke are aiming for total erasure ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The Hollowest of Men Ride Again… SURPRISE!
    Musings continue apace about “the experienced businessman!” soon to be taking up a National Party MP position. Or to be more accurate, being parachuted into a seat to shut down their former MP Jamie-Lee Ross, who despite his own shortcomings shed at least some more light on the inner workings ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Barbaric
    The Ugandan government wants to murder gay people:Uganda has announced plans to impose the death penalty on homosexuals. The bill, colloquially known as “Kill the Gays” in Uganda, was nullified five years ago on a technicality, but the government said on Thursday it plans to resurrect it within weeks. The ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Is this study legit? 5 questions to ask when reading news stories of medical research
    Hassan Vally, La Trobe University Who doesn’t want to know if drinking that second or third cup of coffee a day will improve your memory, or if sleeping too much increases your risk of a heart attack? We’re invested in staying healthy and many of us are interested in reading ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Fighting Monsters.
    Freedom Of Speech? The Säuberung (cleansing by fire) was the work of the German Student Union which, on 10 May 1933, under the watchful eye of the Nazi Reichminister for Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, consigned 25,000 books to the flames in a ritual exorcism of “un-German thought”. According to the logic of the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The next wave of kaupapa Māori politics: its constitutional, it must be.
      “There can be no such thing as kaupapa Māori political parties or politics in Aotearoa” (Willie Jackson, Labour Party (2017). Māori TV, General/List Election Special) I begin with that claim because at the time, I was confounded at first that it fell out of Willie Jackson’s mouth, and then ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Night lights of NZ from orbit
    New Zealand has prided itself for decades with regard to its lack of pollution, and all will be aware that the ‘100% Pure New Zealand‘ meme is under threat through land, water and air pollution of various causes. There is another type of contamination that the country also faces: light ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    2 weeks ago
  • Reporters deliver uplifting news to fleeing Japanese residents: they won’t miss any rugby
    New Zealand’s media is doing its part in Japan, reassuring those in the path of the storm that they won’t miss any rugby while away from their flooded homes. New Zealand sports reporters stationed in Japan for the Rugby World Cup have had the rare and heartwarming opportunity to inform ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Government in contentious discussions about whether to put surplus on red or black
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones is the only Cabinet member in favour of putting it all on green. As Finance Minister Grant Robertson finds himself with an enormous $7.5 billion surplus, the Government has begun intense, at times contentious conversations about whether to put the money on red or black at ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Jordanian teachers’ successful strike has lessons for here
    by Susanne Kemp At the start of September close to 100,000 school teachers went on strike in Jordan.  They demanded a 50% pay rise.  A pay rise actually agreed to by the regime back in 2014. In early October, however, in the face of government repression and threats, the teachers’ ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Why some people still think climate change isn’t real
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz Why do people still think climate change isn’t real? David ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago

  • Minister of Finance and Sport and Recreation to visit Japan and Vietnam
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson departs tomorrow for events and meetings in Japan and Vietnam.  While in Japan, he will discuss economic and fiscal issues including meeting with the Minister of Finance, Taro Aso, and Minister of Economic and Fiscal Policy, Yasutoshi Nishimura. He will meet with the Minister of Education, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Dashboard tracks housing progress
    The Government’s Housing Dashboard released today confirms record numbers of state houses are under construction and shows the Government build programme is gaining momentum.  “After nine years of inaction, and a hands-off attitude from the previous government we’re starting to see things move in the right direction for housing,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • Ministerial Statement on the International Convention Centre fire
    Mr Speaker, I wish to make a ministerial statement relating to the Auckland fire. The Government is closely monitoring the situation with the fire at the NZ International Convention Centre and is thankful that everyone is now safe. Firefighters are doing an incredible job managing the fire and bringing it ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • Government invests in Te Reo, environmental data research
    The Government is investing in ambitious research that will digitise Te Reo, grow the low-carbon protein efficient aquaculture industry, help interpret environmental trends, and large data sets says Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods. The four projects range from teaching Siri to speak Te Reo to crunching large environmental ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Government announces next steps as part of a comprehensive plan to fix skills gap
    A new education-to-employment brokerage service to strengthen connections between local employers and schools. Funding for more trades focused ‘speed-dating’ events to connect schools with employers. Promotional campaign to raise profile of vocational education. The Government is taking action to increase the number of young people taking up vocational education and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Corrections Amendment Bill passes third reading
    A Bill to improve prison security and ensure the fair, safe, and humane treatment of people in prison while upholding public safety has passed its third reading. Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says the Corrections Amendment Bill makes a number of changes to ensure the Corrections Act 2004 is fit for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Ngāi Tahu CEO appointed to NZ-China Council
    Minister for Māori Development, Nanaia Mahuta, has selected Arihia Bennett MNZM, Chief Executive Officer of Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu, as the Te Puni Kōkiri appointed representative on the New Zealand-China Council. The New Zealand-China Council (the Council) was established in 2012 as a New Zealand led and funded organisation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Southern Response claims move to EQC
    Responsibility for processing the small number of Southern Response claims still to be settled will be transferred to EQC by the end of the year. “As claim numbers reduce, it no longer makes sense for the Crown to have two organisations processing the remaining Canterbury claims,” Grant Robertson says. “Since ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Bowel screening starts in Whanganui
    Health Minister David Clark is encouraging Whanganui residents to take up the opportunity for free bowel screening, which can detect cancer early when it’s easier to treat.   Over the next two years 12,000 Whanganui locals, aged 60 to 74 will be invited to participate in the National Bowel Screening ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Pacific Peoples Minister to attend Our Ocean Conference in Norway
    Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio, heads to Oslo today to represent New Zealand at the sixth Our Ocean Conference, which is being hosted by the Norwegian Government from the 23-24 October. “The Our Ocean Conference mobilises real action on issues like marine plastic pollution and the impacts of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government announces 27 percent increase in Trades Academy places
    Two secondary-school initiatives are being expanded as part of the Government’s plan to see more young New Zealanders take up a trade to help close the skills gap.   This includes the largest single increase in Trades Academy places in recent years. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Education Minister Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures Conference: Connection...
    Session 4: Pacific Connectivity – Youth, Media and New Opportunities   Kia ora tatou katoa and Warm Pacific greetings to one and all. Representatives of Tainui, the local people of the land, or manawhenua – the indigenous peoples of this area – have welcomed you this morning in accordance with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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