web analytics

Roy makes hash of Breakfast-gate cover-up

Written By: - Date published: 12:00 pm, October 23rd, 2009 - 29 comments
Categories: act, corruption - Tags: ,

In an interview on Morning Report today, ACT’s Heather Roy tries to defend her involvement in the Breakfast-gate scams.

She says it’s all the organisers’ fault. A typical blame the staff play. The fact is that Roy would have been asked what she wanted to speak about and she chose to do it on her portfolio. The invite would almost certainly, if they have any competence, have been seen by Roy or her office before it went out.

Even if it’s just ACT activists, well that’s still not OK. It looks like ACT has been running sham forums and ministerial speeches that are really fundraisers all over the country. It is an extremely dodgy practice and ACT needs to front up and explain.

Roy says that the Cabinet Office has cleared her and Rodney Hide of any wrong-doing. Well, it’s news to me if the Cabinet Office has that kind of oversight power. The responsibility for implementing and enforcing the Cabinet Manual is with the members of Cabinet, and ultimately the Prime Minister.

Lastly, Roy now says the ‘surplus’ (ie raised funds) from the breakfasts will be donated to charity. Funny, because yesterday Hide was claiming there is no surplus: “they’re paying for the breakfast‘.

So, now, there is a surplus? This is the problem when you’ve got multiple people trying to cover something up, the lies don’t mesh together.

It’s quite clear that both Hide and Roy are speaking as ministers to stakeholders on their ministerial portfolios at events which are, in fact, clandestine ACT fundraisers. Members of the public and those with an interest in the portfolio have been invited to hear the ministers speak but are being forced, unwittingly, to donate to ACT at the same time.

29 comments on “Roy makes hash of Breakfast-gate cover-up ”

  1. peteremcc 1

    Do you realise that in trying to make everything sound clandestine and murky, you just end up making yourself look stupid?

    Everyone else can clearly see what has happened, and your making it seem really confusing just makes you look silly.

    1) It wasn’t staff, it was activists. That’s been said multiple times in the media. Trying to claim it was staff because that makes the story sound worse, just makes it look like you haven’t properly read the news coverage.

    2) Of course the Prime Minister is responsible for upholding the cabinet manual. But do you really thing that when someone claims there is a breach, he goes and reads it himself to find out? Of course not. He would ask the cabinet office whether the manual had been breached, and if they said yes, or maybe, then he would act on it. Claiming that the cabinet office isn’t responsible makes it seem like you have no idea how government works. Either that, or your being deliberately misleading.

    3) Roy now says the surplus will be donated to charity, IF there is any. That’s right there in the news reports. Again, are you incompetent at following news? Or are you just deliberately ignoring facts?

    4) Donating funds to charity doesn’t prove that rules were being breached. In fact it’s already been proven that rules aren’t being breached. It does show that the media are mostly lefty hacks who have written more about two breakfasts than 13 years of the Green Party exploiting public funds to pay for their MPs retirements.

    However, don’t let any of the above dissuade you from continuing to write on the issue. The more you do, the more credibility you continue to lose.


    • snoozer 1.1

      bit sensitive there Peter.

      What forums/fundraisers have you been organising? Were participants aware they were donating to ACT?

      • fraser 1.1.1

        “it was activists”

        serious question here – do activists ever arrange meetings and organise the copy writing and printing of media for said meeting?

        Seems a lot of responsibility for the activist level within a party.

    • roger nome 1.2

      Peter – don’t you get it? Ministers aren’t supposed to be using their position in Government to garner undue financial advantage for their party. Hide, and other Act ministers have been selling information that they’re privy to, as ministers, to rais funds for their party. It’s called corrupt behaviour.

      In attempting to make excuses for this corruption, you simply denigrate your own name in this forum. Is that really what you want to do?

      • burt 1.2.1

        Lodge a complaint with the Police roger.

        If you can get a court case underway, either a civil case (if the Police decide they can’t charge him because they still haven’ty found their balls after they were removed for 9 years by Labour) or a criminal case (if the Police have found their balls) then set up a site where I can donate and I’ll donate the same amount as I did to Darnton VS Clark.

        If Rodney has broken the rules he must be held to account. End of story.

        • Pascal's bookie

          have you lodged a complaint burt?

        • burt

          Nope, but I’ll put cash (and possibly more than you would expect) behind anyone who gets a case to court. Will you do that or are you just all mouth about this?

        • burt

          Actually PB, we had better ask John Key if Rodney has broken the rules or not, don’t want a fatally flawed politically motivated case being taken to court requiring National to drop all other business in parliament while they dispose of the case.

          rOb help me out – explain to PB why the govt have the power to decide when the govt have done something wrong and why it must be that way and how its no assault on democracy when they do this. I still think it is wrong and you won’t convince me the PM should have the power to adjudicate on alleged breach of the law by members of the govt but PB has nodded in agreement with you on issues like this in the past.

          • Pascal's bookie

            What law do you think has been breached? Are you saying that if no law has been breached then that’s it, he is fine?

        • Pascal's bookie

          Burt, as i explained last night, I’m not at all sure this is a matter for the police. So I think such a case would be frivolous and only give Hide a way out when the case gets thrown out.

          I think it is a matter of ethics, and such is decided by political, not legal means. So yes, it really is up to Key. Whatever decision he makes, he has to live with the political outcome. If the voters decide, (and it is their decision), that they are ok with it, then that is the ethics we have.

          That’s why I think your angle here, (attacking what you percieve as hypocrisy from commenters here) is counterproductive to your stated aims. Much as your support for the ‘principled’ Hide now looks foolish.

          Surely you should be applying whatever pressure you can on the defenders of Hide and Roy and ACT, rather than on your old opponnents?

          • Jim McDonald

            Who wanna bet the PM will definitely say he continues to have confidence in his ACT ministers?

            What I luv about the PM is not just his smile but his slapstick Letterman comedic appearances, ‘laxed attitude and his wonderfully immense confidence he has in his ministers (Worthless type aside).

            A bottomless pit of confidence, one would say. Yee HAA!

    • snoozer 1.3

      peter, the Cabinet Manual is not a rule book, it is a set of guidelines against which the PM should assess his ministers’ behaviour but it is not an exclusive list, which if you pass makes you fit to be a minister.

      The question for the PM is always: given the actions of my ministers, can I still have confidence in them to perform their duties adequately, legally, and ethically?

      That’s not a question he hands over the the Cabinet Office and it’s not one for which the answers are really found within the Cabinet Manual. And the answer in Hide and Roy’s cases must now be no.

  2. burt 2

    The first mistake ACT made was to declare a set price that was the same for everyone rather than have drop buckets where selected invitees could drop large volumes of cash under the banner of an anon koha donation.

    The second mistake was declaring it – a big “NO” sign would seem to be appropriate about now. That seems to make the PM defend them for anything they do and stall any investigations until closer to the election.

  3. Bright Red 3

    hash – breakfast, lolz!

    Is this Peter guy an ACTivist? He seems pretty worked up trying to defend the indefensible.

    It seems quite clear to me that Hide and Roy have blended two legitimate roles in a way that is completely illegitimate. It’s not good enough to blame the activists, if anything that raises a broader quetion of ACT party fundraising practices.

    captcha says ‘accidental’, I don’t buy it.

    • Pascal's bookie 3.1

      “…raises a broader quetion of ACT party fundraising practices.”

      Sure does. Looks co-ordinated.

    • felix 3.2

      Is this Peter guy an ACTivist?

      Yeah, he’s from ACT on Campus at Victoria Uni. He’s big on private property rights but he steals other people’s private property to make ACT on Campus promotional videos.

  4. Jim McDonald 4


    Government ministers from this party whose ideology centres on individual self responsibility seem eager to leverage any advantage from office but tactically quick to outsource responsibility and blame members of their own party.

  5. randal 5

    these act people are supposed to be the innovators, the movers and the shakers, the right guys, the vibrators but every time they stick their heads up they are revealed as venal little money grubbers doing anything for a buck.
    who decided it was their TURN to be in government?

  6. JD 6

    “Ministers aren’t supposed to be using their position in Government to garner undue financial advantage for their party.”

    Does the name Owen Glenn bring back any memories?

  7. graham 7

    all parties do this sort of fundraising i bet if we go and look we will find examples in the last nine years will you then write up a blog attacking lets say steve chadwick for example

  8. JD 8

    “who decided it was their TURN to be in government?”

    The voters of Epsom. Randal you appear to be rather dull.

  9. JD 9

    “who decided it was their TURN to be in government?”

    The voters of Epsom. Randel you appear to be rather dull.

  10. peteremcc 10

    From: patrick.leyland@gmail.com
    Subject: Women’s Sector Fundraising Breakfast Saturday 12th August 2008

    Dear all,

    Please find attached a PDF flyer for the Women’s Sector Fundraising Breakfast on Saturday morning, at 7am at St Andrews on-the-Terrace.

    The guest speaker is Hon Steve Chadwick, Minister of Women’s Affairs.

    Please Rachel Boyack (details below) know if you would like a ticket for this event, or purchase one at Congress on Friday. Look forward to seeing you there!

    I’d appreciate if you could forward this throughout your networks.

    Kind regards,

    Rachel Boyack
    Vice Chair | Harbour Branch
    Women’s Liaison Officer | Wellington Central LEC
    Labour Women’s Sector Councillor
    New Zealand Labour Party

    • r0b 10.1

      So you think that an email sent from Labour Party members to Labour Party members attending Conference to come to a clearly labelled fundraising breakfast is somehow equivalent to ACT MPs selling access to their portfolio expertise to members of the public and stakeholders?

      That’s the best you’ve got? You ACToids must be really spooked! And so you should be. You’ve been caught out planting a “For Sale” sign on government. You’ll sell anything not nailed down won’t you. Shame on you all…

    • burt 10.2


      As Muldoon would have loudly told us, it’s different when we do it. rOb is in perfect pitch – you can’t compare these situations.

  11. Naa, not spooked at all. This is the best you guys have got…shit it means we must be on the right track. Keep it up boys, this won’t go any further and I am willing to wager this will be the end of it 🙂

    • felix 11.1

      Yet you’re both here every day insisting that there’s nothing to see.

      You’re such a retard, Clint 🙂

Links to post

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • COVID-19 vaccine slated for possible approval next week
    The green light for New Zealand’s first COVID-19 vaccine could be granted in just over a week, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said today. “We’re making swift progress towards vaccinating New Zealanders against the virus, but we’re also absolutely committed to ensuring the vaccines are safe and effective,” Jacinda Ardern said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • New ACC Board members announced.
    The Minister for ACC is pleased to announce the appointment of three new members to join the Board of ACC on 1 February 2021. “All three bring diverse skills and experience to provide strong governance oversight to lead the direction of ACC” said Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Bella Takiari-Brame from Hamilton ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Economic boost for Southland marae
    The Government is investing $9 million to upgrade a significant community facility in Invercargill, creating economic stimulus and jobs, Infrastructure Minister Grant Robertson and Te Tai Tonga MP Rino Tirikatene have announced.  The grant for Waihƍpai RĆ«naka Inc to make improvements to Murihiku Marae comes from the $3 billion set ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Celebrating the Entry Into Force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons
    [Opening comments, welcome and thank you to Auckland University etc] It is a great pleasure to be here this afternoon to celebrate such an historic occasion - the entry into force of the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. This is a moment many feared would never come, but ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Supporting disabled people to stay connected
    The Government is providing $3 million in one-off seed funding to help disabled people around New Zealand stay connected and access support in their communities, Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni announced today. The funding will allow disability service providers to develop digital and community-based solutions over the next two ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Voluntary saliva testing offered to quarantine workers from Monday
    Border workers in quarantine facilities will be offered voluntary daily COVID-19 saliva tests in addition to their regular weekly testing, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. This additional option will be rolled out at the Jet Park Quarantine facility in Auckland starting on Monday 25 January, and then to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Next steps in firearms buy-back
    The next steps in the Government’s ambitious firearms reform programme to include a three-month buy-back have been announced by Police Minister Poto Williams today.  “The last buy-back and amnesty was unprecedented for New Zealand and was successful in collecting 60,297 firearms, modifying a further 5,630 firearms, and collecting 299,837 prohibited ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature projects target iconic ecosystems
    Upscaling work already underway to restore two iconic ecosystems will deliver jobs and a lasting legacy, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says.  “The Jobs for Nature programme provides $1.25 billion over four years to offer employment opportunities for people whose livelihoods have been impacted by the COVID-19 recession. “Two new projects ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Public Housing Plan announced
    The Government has released its Public Housing Plan 2021-2024 which outlines the intention of where 8,000 additional public and transitional housing places announced in Budget 2020, will go. “The Government is committed to continuing its public house build programme at pace and scale. The extra 8,000 homes – 6000 public ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Prime Minister congratulates President Joe Biden on his inauguration
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has congratulated President Joe Biden on his inauguration as the 46th President of the United States of America. “I look forward to building a close relationship with President Biden and working with him on issues that matter to both our countries,” Jacinda Ardern said. “New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Jobs for Nature funding will create training and employment opportunities
    A major investment to tackle wilding pines in Mt Richmond will create jobs and help protect the area’s unique ecosystems, Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor says. The Mt Richmond Forest Park has unique ecosystems developed on mineral-rich geology, including taonga plant species found nowhere else in the country. “These special plant ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Pre-departure testing extended to all passengers to New Zealand
    To further protect New Zealand from COVID-19, the Government is extending pre-departure testing to all passengers to New Zealand except from Australia, Antarctica and most Pacific Islands, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “The change will come into force for all flights arriving in New Zealand after 11:59pm (NZT) on Monday ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Bay Cadets learn skills to protect environment
    Bay Conservation Cadets launched with first intake Supported with $3.5 million grant Part of $1.245b Jobs for Nature programme to accelerate recover from Covid Cadets will learn skills to protect and enhance environment Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the first intake of cadets at the launch of the Bay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cook Islanders to resume travel to New Zealand
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mark Brown have announced passengers from the Cook Islands can resume quarantine-free travel into New Zealand from 21 January, enabling access to essential services such as health. “Following confirmation of the Cook Islands’ COVID ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Supporting communities and landowners to grow employment opportunities
    Jobs for Nature funding is being made available to conservation groups and landowners to employ staff and contractors in a move aimed at boosting local biodiversity-focused projects, Conservation Minister Kiritapu Allan has announced. It is estimated some 400-plus jobs will be created with employment opportunities in ecology, restoration, trapping, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Border exception for some returning international tertiary students
    The Government has approved an exception class for 1000 international tertiary students, degree level and above, who began their study in New Zealand but were caught offshore when border restrictions began. The exception will allow students to return to New Zealand in stages from April 2021. “Our top priority continues ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Tiwai deal gives time for managed transition
    Today’s deal between Meridian and Rio Tinto for the Tiwai smelter to remain open another four years provides time for a managed transition for Southland. “The deal provides welcome certainty to the Southland community by protecting jobs and incomes as the region plans for the future. The Government is committed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New member for APEC Business Advisory Council
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has appointed Anna Curzon to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). The leader of each APEC economy appoints three private sector representatives to ABAC. ABAC provides advice to leaders annually on business priorities. “ABAC helps ensure that APEC’s work programme is informed by business community perspectives ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt’s careful economic management recognised
    The Government’s prudent fiscal management and strong policy programme in the face of the COVID-19 global pandemic have been acknowledged by the credit rating agency Fitch. Fitch has today affirmed New Zealand’s local currency rating at AA+ with a stable outlook and foreign currency rating at AA with a positive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Additional actions to keep COVID-19 out of NZ
    The Government is putting in place a suite of additional actions to protect New Zealand from COVID-19, including new emerging variants, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Given the high rates of infection in many countries and evidence of the global spread of more transmissible variants, it’s clear that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • 19 projects will clean up and protect waterways
    $36 million of Government funding alongside councils and others for 19 projects Investment will clean up and protect waterways and create local jobs Boots on the ground expected in Q2 of 2021 Funding part of the Jobs for Nature policy package A package of 19 projects will help clean up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • New Zealand Government acknowledges 175th anniversary of Battle of Ruapekapeka
    The commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Ruapekapeka represents an opportunity for all New Zealanders to reflect on the role these conflicts have had in creating our modern nation, says Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Kiri Allan. “The Battle at Te Ruapekapeka Pā, which took ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago