Shouldn’t you be dead by now?

Written By: - Date published: 6:10 am, July 15th, 2008 - 38 comments
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Australia’s ABC has a somewhat unusual online game to explain the impact of individuals on climate change to children. It’s called ‘Planet Slayer‘. The main part of the game involves answering questions (which really only apply to adults) around use of cars, house size etc to estimate your annual greenhouse gas emissions.Your cumulative emissions are shown by a pig standing next to a pig representing the average Aussie’s emissions and a much smaller pig representing the sustainable level of emissions per human.

At the end of the questions your pig explodes rather bloodily and text appears telling you how many years it would take you to use up your lifetime (77 years) allocation of sustainable emissions. The average Aussie uses their allocation in 9 years.

It’s certainly an unusual game and I’m not sure if the exploding pig is necessary or that the ‘you should be dead by now/ you’re ruining the world’ message is good for kids but it shows how unsustainable our lives really are.

I should have been dead years ago.

38 comments on “Shouldn’t you be dead by now?”

  1. Hmmm, I wonder how many Australian taxpayers were maimed during the development and production of this game ? The Green Party has managed to get similar enviro-propaganda into our schools in the form of special re-education classes that are misleading children as young as 6.

  2. T-rex 2

    Oh, probably thousands Bryan, maybe tens of thousands. Oh the humanity!

    I don’t like the game though. Not least of all because it’s stupid – apparently my net emissions are negative and i’ll live forever because I invested a whole bunch of money in wind and solar. Riiiight.

    Somehow this cancels out the 50,000km of air travel, which was somehow worse because it was for work than if it had been personal. wtf?

    Anyway, it doesn’t do a very good job of getting across the “here’s what you can do to improve things” message.

    Misleading children are they Bryan? Oh I’d just love to hear how. Not evil propaganda like “composting and recycling waste is good”, “clean air and water are good”, “Industry has a responsibility to the environment”, “oil is a scarce resource”, “climate change is a global issue”, “The polar ice is melting” etc?

  3. T-Rex: The irony is that when my wife and I had our last parent teacher interview with our 7 year old sons gifted education programme teacher she told us that his entire GEP class were in favour of genetic engineering after doing a class research project on the topic. Apparently some of the other (no doubt left leaning) teachers were horrified about this. It is a lesson for us all, kids really are smarter than we think and can see through the spin they are fed:-)

  4. higherstandard 4

    T-REX

    You did better than me I was coming out remarkably green until I said I actually spent some money on living and immediately ballooned and exploded – c’est la vie.

    I suspect most kids who play this would be trying hard to explode anyway – nothing like an exploding pig for youngsters to chortle at.

  5. T-rex 5

    Cool – so what’s the propaganda you’re worried about then? Sounds like he’s getting a fairly balanced perspective on things.

    HS – I’m sure I’ll be exploding when I’m older – I’m still at the stage of trying to build up an asset base so living costs aren’t too high 🙂 Hopefully we’ll have acheived technological deliverance by then.

  6. Stephen 6

    Bryan, why do those eco-freaks want to repair the hole in the ozone layer anyway? Do they hate freedom THAT MUCH?!

  7. higherstandard 7

    T-Rex

    Indeed, I think sometimes we are too ready to cry doom and gloom and forget that their are some very clever people in the R&D sectors all over the world.

    I fully expect that there will be technology (new fuels and carriers) that none of us expect available to get us from A to B within a few decades.

  8. “I think sometimes we are too ready to cry doom and gloom and forget that their are some very clever people in the R&D sectors all over the world.”

    Yep, depressing economic activity & therefore resources to fund R&D with carbon taxes and other restrictions is counter-productive. If we head down this track in NZ all we will be doing is giving our bright young kids another reason to bugger off to countries with a more rational approach.

  9. Stephen 9

    Can depend on what one does with the carbon taxes…lower income tax?

  10. Stephen “Can depend on what one does with the carbon taxes lower income tax?”

    That is possible but the Labour Government hasn’t demonstrated a liking for giving money back (except as Welfare For Other Peoples Families) but seems to prefer to spend it on essentials like $11 million websites and socialist re-education camps, sorry I mean train factories in Trevor Mallards electorate.

    ( Yes,yes T-Rex I am regurgitating Crosby Textor focus group tested dog whistles!!!!)

  11. randal 11

    the pig is dead…long live the pig

  12. Oh my, the greens stoop to another low, maybe one day they will use real science.

  13. Stephen 13

    …not that we’re going to have a carbon tax, it’ll be a carbon market. But those commies in oz might designate 50% of ETS revenue going to low-income households as compensation for higher energy bills, 30% to help trade-exposed and disadvantaged industries adapt, and 20% on research…

    I really do await Green tax policy on all this…

  14. Lew 14

    Brett Dale: The professional opinion of the majority of the world’s climate scientists (who disagree with your ideologically-based, non-scientific opinion) isn’t `real science’ while that of the tiny minority (who agree with said opinion) is, huh?

    In other news from Brettdalesville this morning, big is small, up is down, cheap is expensive and water flows uphill.

    L

  15. Stephen 15

    The topic of this article wasn’t even the Greens…they had nothing to do with this. The tag is ‘pig issues’ guys so focus!

    I thought Brett was taking the piss…

  16. Lew 16

    Stephen: Naturally `the greens’ doesn’t just refer to the party, but to all the ideological environmentalist extremists who want to return us all to the dark ages, and who are clearly behind this scheme to sabotage the economy!

    the fact that this is an Australian thing has nothing to do with anything, of course…

    L

  17. Stephen 17

    It *does* get a bit ridiculous e.g. it’s the Green party’s fault that Bush is pushing biofuel subsidies/’greens’ climbed up a coal plant tower/pulled out GE crops/whatever.

  18. Did someone say “pig issue”…?

  19. T-rex 19

    I think you’ll have trouble finding an informed environmentalist who supports any present generation biofuels Stephen. Biofuels are being pushed because they work in existing I/C engines, which mean car companies can keep selling existing cars and oil companies can sell existing oil while promising there’s a compatible solution just around the corner.

    Electric vehicles would be taking off faster if it wasn’t for biofuels. Which is what the Greens who know what they’re talking about are pushing for.

    I’ve got not problem with people climbing a coal plant tower to protest.

    Pulling out crops is just retarded. Not quite as bad as the people who break into animal testing labs and release the animals, but still pretty retarded.

    Don’t tar us all with the actions of extremists. There’s no shortage of those on the right, and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be associated with them.

  20. Felix 20

    We need to get to the bottom of this.

    It’s about time the Greens come out and said they definitely haven’t been blowing up pigs.

    How’s that ‘sod?

  21. Stephen 21

    No shortage of green-extremists either…

    There was a ridiculously high number of posts on transition transport fuels that use methane/natural gas about half way down here

    http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/07/10/we-trust-in-the-science/

  22. So far they haven’t denied it Felix – I wonder what their crazy vegan supporters will be thinking…

  23. Matthew Pilott 23

    Bryan, even CT wouldn’t be so stupid as to use the line “Welfare For Other Peoples Families”. Tell you what, test it on your sprog. Ask said 7 year old if it’s “someone else’s money” if you pay tax, and get your own tax back.

    Wait, I get it! Bryan’s finally converted, and he thinks your tax isn’t your money any more, it’s the government’s (y’know, state enabling it and all that). That’s why getting your own money back via WfF is, according to Bryan, Welfare For Other Peoples Families. Thank god, he won’t be Hickey’s pimp any more!

    I’m not even going to start on the line that internalising the costs of production is stifling creativity. Bryan wants us to subsidise polluters in the vain hope that they’ll magically make the Evil Karbon go away. Talk about naive.

  24. Better Dead Than Red 24

    As soon as any group starts the indoctrination of children you know two things for sure-

    1) They have no rational argument and,

    2) They’re up to no good

    Its how Hitler became a totalitarian.

  25. What about people with the mind of a child? Like Bryan?

  26. Now, now Robinsod. Bryan may make childish arguments, it doesn’t mean he himself has the mind of a child – it’s fine to call his arguemnts childish, calling him childish is too personal.

  27. Pascal's bookie 27

    As soon as any group starts the indoctrination of children you know two things for sure-

    1) They have no rational argument and,

    2) They’re up to no good

    Its how Hitler became a totalitarian.

    Yet more Anti-Christian Bigotry.

  28. Matthew: “Bryan, even CT wouldn’t be so stupid as to use the line “Welfare For Other Peoples Families’. Tell you what, test it on your sprog. Ask said 7 year old if it’s “someone else’s money’ if you pay tax, and get your own tax back.”

    Yes Matthew there are families on the average income who are receiving as much back in WFF (or WFOPF) tax credits, accommodation supplements etc as they are paying in income tax. They are also benefiting from all the other resources that taxes provide schools, roads etc. These families are clearly getting money from families that pay tax but don’t get any benefits or income transfers.

    Even if the families receiving WFF get less in WFF payments than they pay in tax they are still getting money from other peoples families.

    Yes, I’m sure my 7 year old wouldn’t understand why he has to go without so that other peoples families can get a free ride.

  29. Robinsod:”What about people with the mind of a child? Like Bryan?”

    As I said before DR haven’t you got an exam to study for ?

  30. Yes Bryan – and as I’ve said before Bryan, last time I was at university I marked the papers – I didn’t sit them. So far you’re not even scraping a D.

  31. Stephen 31

    “Yet more Anti-Christian Bigotry.”

    LOL

    I too am sick of being on the receiving end of godless commie smears.

  32. T-rex 32

    Probably not if you explained it to him Bryan, no, so thank god he goes to school where he actually gets a slightly less warped perspective on the world.

    Out of interest, what did he last go without? Healthcare? Food? Shelter? Clothing? Or are you meaning “go without” as in “I can’t afford to upgrade the 42″ plasma screen TV for his Xbox360 to a 42″ plasma so he’s having to go without”. And all so those little basta*ds down the street can have food. What has our world come to!

  33. T – I’d imagine if Bryan is paid an even vaguely meritocratic rate then he probably does seriously go without.

  34. Pascal's bookie 34

    ” last time I was at university I marked the papers… So far you’re not even scraping a D.”

    Dude; He gets an Epic Fail on the Turing Test.

  35. Robinsod: “Yes Bryan – and as I’ve said before Bryan, last time I was at university I marked the papers – I didn’t sit them.”

    I’m glad to hear DR that you are no longer sponging off the taxpayer as an academic.

    T-Rex: “I can’t afford to upgrade the 42″ plasma screen TV for his Xbox360 to a 42″ plasma so he’s having to go without’.

    And that pretty much sums up the problem with the lefts thinking: “Lets punish people for working hard and being successful by taking their money away from them and giving it to people who haven’t worked for it so we (the socialists) can feel noble and self-righteous”.

  36. Tane 36

    Bryan, nice attempt at explaining socialism, but once again you’ve scored a D in POLS 101.

    You have been assigned further reading, starting here:

    http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

  37. Robinsod: “T – I’d imagine if Bryan is paid an even vaguely meritocratic rate then he probably does seriously go without.”

    Showed this comment to Bernard,Dylan, he was very impressed with your rapier like wit, and also glad you haven’t accepted my invitation to comment on his blog 🙂

  38. Tane: “You have been assigned further reading, starting here:

    http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

    Thjanks for your kind thoughts but I would rather study something more relevant to modern life, like ‘steam locomotive construction’ or ‘cloth cap wearing’.

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    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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