Wikileaks NZ cables

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Odd timing as everyone powers down for Christmas, but The Herald (emulating papers elsewhere) has published the Wikileaks cables relating to NZ. Brace yourselves for a lot of wallowing in ancient gossip, and spin as left and right sift through the entrails looking for something that they can use against each other.

The Herald got their own early start, with a piece yesterday: “Nuclear stance sacrificed for votes”. If that nonsense (which Eddie immediately took to task) is the worst they have on Helen Clark then a lot of frothing righties are going to be pretty disappointed!

More recent, clear, and significant, a good old fashioned case of broken promises and misleading Parliament, which The Herald reported today here:

Key exposed over Dalai Lama

Prime Minister John Key is facing tough questions as details from leaked US Embassy cables appear to contradict statements made in Parliament.

The embarrassing details are contained in a cable which has revealed secret details of his meeting with Chinese premier Wen Jiabao. … Among the cables is a briefing which stated that Key told Jiabao in April last year neither he nor any of his ministers would meet the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama.

The statement broke a promise Key had made before the election – and reassured the Premier almost eight months before the New Zealand public was told.

But the statement might also have landed Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully in trouble after he assured Parliament that there was no boycott. On November 19, Green MP Keith Locke asked McCully: “Is it government policy that no minister will officially meet with the Dalai Lama when he visits next month?” McCully answered, “No”. He also said he had discussed the issue with Key.

But the US Embassy cable quoted Ministry of Foreign Affairs diplomat Grahame Morton as stating: “PM Key had earlier conversed with Premier Wen Jiabao concerning the Dalai Lama’s December 4-7 visit to Auckland, saying that neither he nor any of his ministers would meet with the Dalai Lama.

“Morton said the Chinese ‘obviously registered’ this. Morton added that the PM … made this decision without any consultation, but others in the Government are still obliged to respect it.” …

Labour leader Phil Goff said: “That’s a very clear contradiction. Murray McCully appears to have misled the House.” …

Key had left the country and was unavailable for comment yesterday. Spokesmen for acting Prime Minister Bill English and McCully did not respond by deadline.

Timeline

April 2009: John Key tells the Chinese Premier neither he nor his ministers will meet the Dalai Lama.

November 2009: Murray McCully tells Parliament there is no ban on ministers meeting the Dalai Lama.

December 2009: The Dalai Lama visits. No ministers meet him.

Broken election promises are a dime a dozen for the Nats, but McCully should be held to account for misleading the house. But by the time Parliament reconvenes this will likely have been forgotten. (Hey – maybe the timing of the release makes sense after all! Just kidding.)

Still, if these are the headline issues that The Herald’s intrepid sleuths have uncovered in the cables then I’m guessing that politicians on both sides, past and present, will be vastly relieved.

53 comments on “Wikileaks NZ cables ”

  1. McCully should be held to account for misleading the house …

    Still, if these are the headline issues that The Herald’s intrepid sleuths have uncovered in the cables then I’m guessing that politicians on both sides, past and present, will be vastly relieved.

    R0b you are too kind. If this was a Labour Minister this issue would have been thrashed by the RWNJs within an inch of its live and offered as conclusive proof that the aforesaid Labour Minister is just as bad as Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Ghengis Khan on a bad day.

    • r0b 1.1

      Yeah I know they would. And I know it works. But I still can’t bring myself to be like them. I reckon we on the Left should save our anger for the big stuff. After all, there’s plenty of that to go around…

  2. Anne 2

    It seems that John Key made the promise to the Chinese Premier without discussing it first with his cabinet colleagues. I’m no defender of Murray McCully, but my pick is he didn’t know about the promise when he made the statement in parliament in Nov. 2009.

    • r0b 2.1

      In that case we have smile ‘n wave making up foreign policy on the hoof, and not telling the Foreign Affairs Minister. I’m not reassured!

    • DeeDub 2.2

      Except this:

      “He (McCully) also said he had discussed the issue with Key.”

      So either he lied about talking to Key about the issue OR he lied to the house.

  3. burt 3

    rOb

    It’s a disgrace isn’t it. But on the subject of the Dalai Lama, I wonder if similar details will be released showing Clark planned to meet the Dalai Lama in Sydney airport while saying it was a serendipitous meeting in NZ. If so do you still think politicians on both sides, past and present, will be vastly relieved?

    see: It’s really just karma as Clark meets Dalai Lama

  4. Anne 4

    The plot thickens Deedub.

    Either he (McCully) did know about it and lied to parliament, OR he had discussed the issue with Key but Key forgot to tell him what he said to the Chinese Premier? Whatever, Mickey Mouse has nothing on this lot. 😉

  5. Sanctuary 5

    “…Prime Minister John Key is facing tough questions as details from leaked US Embassy cables appear to contradict statements made in Parliament…”

    Or he would be, if he hadn’t already swanned off to his Hawaiian gated community.

  6. IrishBill 6

    Typically dodgy of Key to be telling the Chinese one thing and the voters another. He really is a bit of a prick. It’s just a shame that this is coming out while he’s laying low in Hawaii.

    • burt 6.1

      So as the leaks continue will all NZ politicians shown to be saying one thing to the Chinese (or any other govt) and another to the public be ‘a bit of a prick’ ?

  7. Gina 7

    Does anyone have a dossier on John Key’s trips to America (Hawaii)? How often does he swan off and for how long? Dates anyone. Who’s the traitor meeting and whats he up to over there? He creeps me out big time. We are not allowed to swear on The Standard are we.

    • Alwyn 7.1

      You must be VERY new to this site. It is a rarity for any of the comments, including mine I fear, NOT to include swearing.

      • lprent 7.1.1

        Yep. I only object to pointless abuse, ie where there isn’t a clear and stated reason why someone is being advised of their personal defects.

        • Alwyn 7.1.1.1

          I’ve reread what I wrote and it could be misinterpreted.
          It could be read as suggesting that this site is unique in the amount of swearing that goes on.
          That is certainly not the case. Almost every Blog is the same. I imagine it has to do with the almost complete anonymity that is adopted by people commenting.
          I wonder what we would all be like if we did use our real names? I suspect that most of us, including me, would very quickly shut up.

    • Bob Stanforth 7.2

      So, its OK to call the PM a “traitor” but for example, if I was to question the sexuality of current or past members of both sides of the house, that would get me what, banned? Ignored? Slapped with a wet bus ticket?

      Let me guess, cos its JK, calling him a traitor = OK. But calling, oh, lets pick one, the ex-PM a closet lesbian is not OK? Come on, discuss and justify, Im intrigued 🙂 I would have thought that calling the PM a traitor wasnt OK? Really?

      ASW: living, as in living a lie…

      • Colonial Viper 7.2.1

        Let me guess, cos its JK, calling him a traitor = OK. But calling, oh, lets pick one, the ex-PM a closet lesbian is not OK? Come on, discuss and justify, Im intrigued 🙂 I would have thought that calling the PM a traitor wasnt OK? Really?

        A hypothetical PM who hypothetically undermined his own country to favour foreign powers could be described as a “traitor”. A direct tie in to the job of PM and whether or not you would want that person leading the country.

        Now do you reckon that Clark’s sexuality has the same relevance. At all.

        • joe bloggs 7.2.1.1

          how about a hypothetical former prime minister who hypothetically undermined her own country to favour foreign powers? Something like this for the sake of an hypothesis:

          The United States Government quietly approved eight new areas for military co-operation with New Zealand in 2007
          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10695451

          Any competent firefighter can tell you, here’s no smoke without fire. Looks like plenty of smoke here – clearly there’s been a bit of a fire as well.

          Evidently there have been favours granted to USA by the last Labour govt. All very shady and well under the radar despite Clark’s observed “penchant for seeking out press opportunities”.

          Ironically this fits CV’s description of tratorous activities, and fits it a darned sight better than Gina’s incoherent outburst of pallid green jealosy.

  8. Gina 8

    Thanks Alwyn now I can blame you should Iprent have a go at me for any dodgy language that might somehow find its way into my comments.

  9. Gooner 9

    From a cable:

    The Charge told Goff that the Embassy would have appreciated a head’s up that Mallard would be making these remarks. Goff said that as was well known, Goff has
    very favorable feelings towards the United States…But, he went on, the Government believes that these issues do resonate with the New Zealand public and it would therefore be foolish not to
    pursue them. There will be more campaigning on issues related to U.S. policy in the weeks ahead, he cautioned. The Charge said…if further false claims were made the Embassy would respond. Goff…endorsed the idea of our making a press statement refuting Mallard’s claims.

    But I guess there is nothing to see here. Move along everyone. No issue with Mallard telling lies and Labour repeating them for electoral purposes, while all the time Goff has favourable feelings towards the US.

    Hey, that’s just politics, if Labour practices them. However if Nact do the same…….

    • burt 9.1

      It’s rOb posting, anything Labour do will be different and excusable under the over arching ‘good intentions’ the glorious Labour party have for the glorious socialist state NZ should be.

      I think rOb’s just tried to front foot this issue but the end result is most likely that he has his foot extended far enough to shoot it right off as the leaks continue. What possessed him to take on the subject of politicians being two faced using the Dalai Lama as an example. The best he can achieve is that Key acted like Clark did, but I guess in the mind of an apologist “they did the same” is a move on and that’s better than saying sorry.

      • Pascal's bookie 9.1.1

        What possessed him to take on the subject of politicians being two faced using the Dalai Lama as an example. The best he can achieve is that Key acted like Clark did, but I guess in the mind of an apologist “they did the same” is a move on and that’s better than saying sorry.

        You mean when HC had a meeting with the lama that the chinese couldn’t have a whinge about without looking precious? The worst you can say is that HC bullshitted the chinese.

        That’s exactly the same as JK of course, who told the Chinese he wouldn’t meet with the lama while secretly that was the truth, and what he was saying in public to kiwis was bullshit.

        • RobertM 9.1.1.1

          I ignore all comment about the Dalai Lami. I just believe all justice would be to hand Tibet and Taiwan back to China. Same as the British did over HongKong. Generally I am a Reaganite Libertarian but I find no justice in the neo cons dispute with China. Its not a basis for picking a fight and I am far more sympathetic to the Chinese who are just a power not a global presence unlike Japan.
          I was with Helen on the anti nuclear dispute. It was absurd,outrageous and criminal for Muldoon to invite the latest USN nuclear attack submarines here. They were strategic weapons and then and now they should not be in NZ ports.
          The real US anger seems to be about Helens blocking of access to NZ of the latest US pharmacuticals and the creation of Pharmac. Sad to say from a red perspective I think all new drugs should be available for people who can pay for them. Pharmac and the exclusion of the last 15 years of big pharmas psychiatric drugs has meant many New Zealanders are on ghastly drugs like Lithium and has driven NZ doctors and psychiatrists away from an orientation to US medicine and DSM5 back to following British and European leads that I think 30 years behind the times and far crueler. Yes drugs should be used in minimum and in far lower doses than is generally seen as desirable by the psychs. But I don’t think the Micheal Laws abstitence perscription will do any good.

          • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1.1

            I just believe all justice would be to hand Tibet and Taiwan back to China. Same as the British did over HongKong.

            Nobody’s handing Tibet back to China. Not needed. China got their hands on it many decades ago.

            As for handing Taiwan back to China, sorry, the US and Japan aren’t about to let that happen, the only people who will decide on that are the Taiwanese. And there is no consensus there, even as business ties between China/Taiwan are strengthening all the time.

            The British/Hong Kong example is irrelevant. Taiwan is a sovereign country (ahem, briefly discounting the China view), not some kind of protectorate.

    • Colonial Viper 9.2

      Meh, a little paragraph taken out of context, written as the opinion of one official. Why don’t you try posting a fuller excerpt next time so we have some idea of what you are trying to say.

      Oh yeah and a link plz

    • Draco T Bastard 9.3

      The Charge said…if further false claims were made the Embassy would respond. Goff…endorsed the idea of our making a press statement refuting Mallard’s claims.

      I note the selective editing so, Got link?

      The Charge told Goff that the Embassy would have
      appreciated a head’s up that Mallard would be making these
      remarks. Goff said that as was well known, he (Goff) has
      very favorable feelings towards the United States and close
      family connections there. (Goff’s sister is an Amcit and has
      two sons serving in the U.S. military (one of who is in Iraq)
      with a third on his way to West Point.) But, he went on, the
      Government believes that these issues do resonate with the
      New Zealand public and it would therefore be foolish not to
      pursue them. There will be more campaigning on issues
      related to U.S. policy in the weeks ahead, he cautioned. The
      Charge said that was Labour’s call to make, but if further
      false claims were made the Embassy would respond. Goff
      agreed that it was in the Embassy’s right to do so, and
      endorsed the idea of our making a press statement refuting
      Mallard’s claims. The Charge then released to the media the
      following statement, which has also been cleared by
      Washington:

      Reads slightly differently when you put the whole thing in.

  10. Gooner 10

    Here’s your link:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10695146

    Here’s another:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/12/more_wikileaks.html#comment-778049

    What I’m trying to say is that Helen Clark said in parliament on 22 June 2005 that National’s policies were written in Washington. Very shortly after that, Trevor Mallard made the same statement to the media. Helen Clark said she was angry he made that statement (didn’t want to be seen pissing off the yanks), but she made the same statement in parliament herself. Then Goff, as Foreign Minister, became involved, and endorsed the US Embassy’s response to Mallard. The US Embassy notes Goff as “very favourable to the US”, but a little earlier in the same year, Goff visits the Middle East and is pictured holding hands with notorious terrorist, Yassar Arafat.

    Now, take your rose tinted glasses off, and imagine if the names here were Brash, Brownlee, Key and McCully. I could feel the spit on your keyboard!

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Now, take your rose tinted glasses off, and imagine if the names here were Brash, Brownlee, Key and McCully. I could feel the spit on your keyboard!

      Nah, not worth bothering about. Thats just low level electioneering noise whether National or Labour was doing it.

      What would be really fascinating is knowing what US diplomats were saying about Peter Jackson, Warner Bros and John Key. And whether or not Warner Bros execs were in communication/co-ordination with the US Govt in any way.

    • burt 10.2

      Hey look over there… La la la not listening …. National did it too….

      • Colonial Viper 10.2.1

        Did Warner Bros and the US Govt co-ordinate in any way to get more NZ tax payers monies from John Key? Now that would be a fascinating wikileak.

        • burt 10.2.1.1

          FFS Colonial Viper… did the same happen when the Lord of the Rings was filmed…. You don’t get this do you?

          • Colonial Viper 10.2.1.1.1

            And I’d love to know if the US diplomats had a view on Jackson’s role in Warner Bros securing an increased level of tax breaks. Their interpretation of Jackson’s actions around the CTU and Helen Kelly, the timing of the lifting of the global boycott, what he likely did know and when etc. would be of huge interest.

    • Pascal's bookie 10.3

      Then Goff, as Foreign Minister, became involved, and endorsed the US Embassy’s response to Mallard.

      I see where he endorsed the idea of them making a statement. Which is completely trivial. All he is doing is saying that the US has the right to make a statement. Where do get him endorsing the statement itself?

  11. Gooner 11

    Yeah, what’s said during an election campaign is hardly important, aye.

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      I remember hearing something about “NO GST INCREASES” in the last election campaign.

      So how did that work out?

  12. Colonial Viper 12

    Key Plays Power Games with Obama

    US Embassy staff were pressured to set a date for Prime Minister John Key to meet President Barack Obama – because media had already been told the meeting was on…

    The cable shows Key pushing for a firm meeting date with Obama after
    speaking with him at the 2009 APEC meeting in Singapore….

    “Expectations in NZ were set, Key said, and the matter potentially could turn into a political embarrassment for him…”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10695363

  13. RedBaron 13

    I found the Wikileaks cable of 6 Dec 2009 interesting. Mr Morton of Mfat seems to have disclosed all the details of an Mfat report? on the visit of Chinese Vice Premier Li Keqiang. I don’t know too much about internal Mfat workings but is this appropriate? After all I think the NZ taxpayer pays Mr Morton’s salary.

  14. RedBaron 14

    Hi. Linking is beyond me but it is on the NZ herald site – sorry.!

    captcha: Keys.

  15. RedBaron 15

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=10695199 Bilateral relationship with China

    Don’t know if this will work!

  16. Deadly_NZ 16

    http://rightwingnews.com/2010/07/the-cia-should-kill-julian-assange/

    Oh you gotta love Sarah palin and all her fellow nutters .

    But if you want a read while shaking your head and hoping like hell these Nutters never get thier fingers on the Button..

  17. arandar 18

    “The cables also reveal how the US uses its embassy to influence public opinion on issues as diverse as defence spending, Pharmac and antinuclear legislation.”
    From that same link – thanks Infused – is this para.
    And this really bothers me. How does the US embassy ‘influence public opinion’ without the cooperation of our msm?

    • pollywog 18.1

      The greatest trick the devil ever performed was convincing us he didn’t exist…The easiest way to fool the public is to hide the truth in plain sight

      The story on the surface makes for a script for a new Oliver Stone Hollywood thriller. A 39-year old Australian hacker holds the President of the United States and his State Department hostage to a gigantic cyber “leak,” unless the President leaves Julian Assange and his Wikileaks free to release hundreds of thousands of pages of sensitive US Government memos. A closer look at the details, so far carefully leaked by the most ultra-establishment of international media such as the New York Times, reveals a clear agenda. That agenda coincidentally serves to buttress the agenda of US geopolitics around the world from Iran to Russia to North Korea. The Wikileaks is a big and dangerous US intelligence Con Job which will likely be used to police the Internet.

      http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/US_Con_Job/us_con_job.html

      This “redacting” role of The New York Times is candidly acknowledged by David E Sanger, Chief Washington correspondent of the NYT:

      “[W]e went through [the cables] so carefully to try to redact material that we thought could be damaging to individuals or undercut ongoing operations. And we even took the very unusual step of showing the 100 cables or so that we were writing from to the U.S. government and asking them if they had additional redactions to suggest.” (See PBS Interview; The Redacting and Selection of Wikileaks documents by the Corporate Media, PBS interview on “Fresh Air” with Terry Gross: December 8, 2010, emphasis added).

      Yet Sanger also says later in the interview:

      “It is the responsibility of American journalism, back to the founding of this country, to get out and try to grapple with the hardest issues of the day and to do it independently of the government.” (ibid)

      “Do it independently of the government” while at the same time “asking them [the US government] if they had additional redactions to suggest”? M

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22389

      oooh i feel so tittilated…seems like the hard core stuff has all been redacted to protect the guilty though.

  18. si 20

    Seems Auntie Helen went further than the nucleat stance. You seem to very quiet on the troops for milk leak.

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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Still waiting on that turnaround
    Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.Friday: Week in review, quiz style2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Mihi Forbes and the great Atlas conspiracy
    Graham Adams writes — Last week, Mihingarangi Forbes made an extraordinary claim while interviewing David Seymour on Mata Reports, a taxpayer-funded current affairs programme which, she says, looks at events through an “indigenous lens”. She asked him about Act’s links to the Atlas Network, which fosters connections between centre-right ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    4 days ago
  • Puffing Policy
    Public policy towards tobacco consumption remains politically sensitive. In 1983, a young researcher was told by a medium-level Treasury official that Treasury policy was to abandon excise duties on tobacco. The senior Treasury economist that I consulted, famed for his commonsense, snorted ‘we need the money’. He explained that no-excise-duty ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    4 days ago
  • Luxon is one of three prime ministers pressing for a ceasefire in Gaza – but the two-state solutio...
    Buzz from the Beehive Two days after hundreds of people rallied outside the New Zealand parliament and the US embassy in Wellington to protest against what they maintain is genocide in Gaza,  Prime Minister Chris Luxon joined with the Prime Ministers of Australia and Canada to express their  concerns that ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • All jellied up with possum grease
    1. Shane Jones, addressing the energy industry, called climate concern what?a. The only sane responseb. Undeniably valid c. Our last best hope d. A "religion" 2. Shane Jones’ demeanour in mocking and deriding climate activists can be observed in what other realm of human behaviour?a. Gleeful little boys pulling wings off fliesb. Gleeful ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Equality comes to Greece
    The Greek Parliament has voted for marriage equality: Greece has become the first Christian Orthodox-majority country to legalise same-sex marriage. Same-sex couples will now also be legally allowed to adopt children after Thursday's 176-76 vote in parliament. Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said the new law would "boldly abolish a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • CHRIS TROTTER:  Iron in her soul.
      “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche   Chris Trotter writes – TELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to Feb 16
    Net emigration of New Zealanders overseas hit a record-high 47,000 in the 2023 year, which only partly offset net immigration of 173,000, which was dominated by arrivals from India, the Philippines and China with temporary work visas. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The five things that mattered in Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Stop Whispering.
    There's nothing to sayAnd there's nothing to doStop whispering, start shoutingStop whispering, start shoutingYesterday our government surprised a few of us by standing up for something. It wasn’t for the benefit of people who own holiday homes and multiple investment properties. Neither were there any tobacco companies or fishing cartels ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • “I'm Not Keen on Whataboutism, But What About…”
    Hi,Not sure how your week is going, but I’ve had a pretty frustrating one. I’ve been trying to put my finger on it, and I think it’s perhaps distilled in this message I got on Twitter:What got me a bit riled up is that it was a response to the ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on National passing bad policies under urgency
    If National really had faith in its welfare policies, it wouldn’t be ramming them through Parliament under urgency – a step that means the policies can’t be exposed to select committee debate, public submissions, expert commentary, media scrutiny and all the normal democratic processes that this coalition appears to hold ...
    4 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 16-February-2024
    It’s Friday so once again here”s our roundup of some of the articles that caught our attention this week. This Week in Greater Auckland On Monday Matt looked at the Government’s war on Auckland. On Tuesday Matt covered the ongoing issues with the rail network. On Thursday Matt ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    4 days ago
  • The Dawn Chorus for Friday, February 16
    The six things to note in my view at 6.30 am on Friday, February 16 in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy are: Read more ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Iron In Her Soul.
    “Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich NietzscheTELEVISION NEW ZEALAND is to be congratulated for inviting Chloe Swarbrick onto its Q+A current affairs show. The Green MP for Auckland Central is the odds-on ...
    4 days ago
  • Dig this
    Resources Minister Shane Jones yesterday told a breakfast hosted by Energy Resources Aotearoa precisely what they wanted to hear. “We campaigned to rehabilitate relegitimise and stand up for working families who derive their income,  derive their hope and derive purpose in regional New Zealand through a flourishing, growing, forward-leaning energy ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #7 2024
    Open access notables Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course, van Westen et al., Science Advances: Here, we show results of the first tipping event in the Community Earth System Model, including the large climate impacts of the collapse. Using these results, we develop a physics-based and ...
    5 days ago
  • A rejection of the rule of law
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Shrugging-Off The Atlas Network.
    Upholding The Status-Quo: The Left’s election defeat is not the work of the Atlas Network. It is not even the work of David Seymour and Act. It is the work of ordinary citizens who liked the Right’s stories better than they liked the Left’s. If the Right’s stories were made ...
    5 days ago
  • BARRIE SAUNDERS: Treaty Principles – all rather problematic
    Barrie Saunders writes – When ACT’s leader said they wanted legislation to state what the Treaty principles mean, my first thought was this will be controversial and divisive.  Clearly it is. The first reference to the principles of the Treaty were contained in the 1975 Act establishing the Treaty of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago
  • Luxon Rejects The “Rejection Election” At His Peril.
    Fitting Right In: National retailed a reactionary manifesto of right-wing, racially-charged policies to the electorate throughout 2023. No talk back then of ignoring the overwhelming political preferences of the voting public and making a strong stand on principle. If Luxon’s pollsters and focus-groups were telling him that the public was ...
    5 days ago
  • Valentine’s Day went unnoticed on the Beehive website – but it is not “baa, humbug” to celeb...
    Buzz from the Beehive None of our ministers – a quick check with the Beehive website suggests – found cause to mention, let along celebrate, Valentine’s Day. But two ministers – Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Rural Communities Minister Mark Patterson – ensured that National Lamb Day did not pass ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    5 days ago
  • Are You A Leftist?
    Nothing To Lose But Our Chains: The emancipatory movement which the Left, understood correctly, has always been, cannot accommodate those who are only able to celebrate one group’s freedom by taking it from another. The expectation, always, among leftists, is that liberty enlarges us. That striking-off a person’s shackles not ...
    5 days ago
  • An unlawful directive
    An interesting question in the Parliamentary written questions feed today, from Jan Tinetti to the Minister of Education: Has she or her Office directed the Ministry of Education to not release Official Information Act material prior to the full twenty working days, if so, why? Given that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • I’ve been doing this all wrong
    Here are six words that are not easy to say but god it can feel good when you finally say them:I’ve been doing this all wrongFive years ago today I said to myself:What if I'm doing this all wrong?Five years ago today I said to Karren: I think I’m going to ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • New study suggests the Atlantic overturning circulation AMOC “is on tipping course”
    This is a re-post from RealClimate by Stefan Rahmstorf A new paper was published in Science Advances today. Its title says what it is about: “Physics-based early warning signal shows that AMOC is on tipping course.” The study follows one by Danish colleagues which made headlines last July, likewise looking for early warning signals ...
    5 days ago
  • Valentines from ACT.
    Some of us make a big deal out of Valentine’s Day. We’ll buy the flowers, eye watering though the price spike might be. Say the things we should be saying anyway, although diminished by being scheduled for delivery. Some of us will even write long free-form newsletters with declarations of ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • Tax cuts paid for by 13k more kids in poverty
    MSD advised the government that the indexation change it passed under urgency last night is likely to put around 7,000 extra children (and potentially up to 13,000) into poverty. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The Government has reverted indexation for main beneficiaries to price inflation from wage inflation under ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Fuel Tax Fight and Rail Fail update
    The two stories we covered at the start of the week continue to be in the headlines so it’s worth looking at the latest for each of them. Regional Fuel Tax Mayor Wayne Brown promised some ‘argy-bargy’ over the government’s decision to cancel the Regional Fuel Tax and he’s ...
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Arsonists
    Today, a major fire broke out on the Port Hills in Ōtutahi. Like its 2017 predecessors, it is almost certainly exacerbated by climate change. And it is still burning. The present government did not start the fire. But they piled the tinder high last time they were in power, gutting ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • I don’t know!
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/73411 7 examples And who actually makes the decisions? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know. America is a complex country, conservative on the one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out.   Tucker Carlson: Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate the settlement to this conflict? Vladimir Putin: I don’t know the details, of course it’s difficult for me to judge, but ...
    6 days ago
  • Fresh thinkers
    Fresh thinking will always give you hope.It might be the kind that makes you smite your brow, exclaiming: Why didn't we think of that! It's obvious!It might be the kind that makes you go: Dude you’re a genius.Sometimes it will simply be Wayne Brown handing Simeon Brown his weasel ass ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    6 days ago
  • It is not about age, it is about team.
    Much attention has been directed at Joe Biden’s mental lapses and physical frailty. Less attention has been spent on Donald Trump’s cognitive difficulties and physical limitations, with most focus being devoted to his insults and exaggerated claims (as if they … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • ROBERT MacCULLOCH: Fletcher Building – it is time to break up NZ’s most useless company.
    Robert MacCulloch writes –  Gosh, the CEO of Fletcher Building, Ross Taylor, says today’s announcement of a half-year loss of $120 million for the company is “disappointing” and was “heavily impacted” by the Convention Centre losses. He must be crying all the way to the bank (to quote Las ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • Mortgage rates seen high for even longer
    Government and borrower hopes for early mortgage cost relief look likely to be thwarted. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: Stronger-than-expected US inflation data out overnight is expected to delay the first US Federal Reserve rate cut into the second half of 2024, which in turn would hold mortgage rates ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, the first of the new Parliament. And to start the Parliament off, there's a bunch of first readings. A bunch of other bills have been postponed, so first up is Duncan Webb's District Court (Protecting Judgment Debtors on Main Benefit) Amendment Bill, followed by Katie ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Three Waters go down the legislative gurgler – but what should we make of Local Water Done Well?
    Buzz from the Beehive Local Government Minister Simeon Brown – it seems fair to suppose – was flushed with success after the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation. As he explained, repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing his government’s Local Water Done Well ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on five of Luxon’s Gaza absurdities
    Earlier this week, PM Christopher Luxon met with 48 public service CEOs to make sure they were on board with his plans to cut spending on public services so that National can proceed to give the revenue away to those New Zealanders least in need. This wasn’t the only absurdity ...
    6 days ago
  • Love and the Fairer Sex.
    This morning I woke early with many thoughts in my head of things said, events of the week, things that matter. I’m afraid none of them involved Seymour, Willis, or Luxon so if you’re looking for something political maybe take the day off and come back tomorrow. You won’t find ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • He stood up to Muldoon and Lange and the Fji army
    Gerald Hensley, who died aged 88 on Saturday, was the key official who presided over the tumultuous events that followed the election of the Lange Labour Government in 1984. He was also instrumental in helping a key Fijian official escape the country during one of the 1987 coups. A diplomat ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    7 days ago
  • At a glance – Has Arctic sea ice returned to normal?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    7 days ago
  • Halo dunia!
    Selamt datang di WordPress. Ini adalah pos pertama Anda. Sunting atau hapus, kemudian mulai menulis! ...
    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
    As a treat today I have lined up a favourite in the music slot. I love Turnaround, I cannot hear it too often, and I feel in need of a treat when I make myself listen to the Prime Minister the way I did this morning.He too, has favourites that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • The PM wants a turnaround
    As a treat today I have lined up a favourite in the music slot. I love Turnaround, I cannot hear it too often, and I feel in need of a treat when I make myself listen to the Prime Minister the way I did this morning.He too, has favourites that ...
    More than a fieldingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • ELE LUDEMANN: Trusting locals
    Ele Ludemann writes- A government-knows-best and predilection for central control was another unfortunate feature of the 2017-2023 Labour governments. One of the worst polices as a result of that was what started as Three Waters and became several more. The National-led government is much more trusting of locals ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 week ago
  • Legislation to flush away Three Waters has become a certainty – but we must wait for details on th...
    Buzz from the Beehive A  three-day information drought was broken, just after Point of Order published yesterday’s Buzz from the Beehive, and two significant ministerial announcements were made. First, the Budget will be delivered on 30 May, telling us which genuine savings have been made by eliminating waste and which ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 week ago
  • Rise of the Lobbyists.
    An unpopular opinion, I love Auckland.Not so much the transport or the house prices - those are pretty dire. But there’s a lot to like. We’ve a vibrant, multicultural city in a beautiful location with, mostly, friendly locals. From the native bush of the Waitakeres to the Gulf islands, it’s ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    1 week ago
  • The holes in National’s water reform pipes
    Young renters just have to watch on as pipes keep failing and the Government and councils point fingers at each other, because all the incentives are for ratepayers to block rates increases, water meters, water charges and the creation of new entities. File Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: The National-ACT-NZ First coalition ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 week ago
  • After years of stability, Antarctica is losing ice
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by SueEllen Campbell Until recently, Antarctica’s ice has seemed surprisingly stable. In contrast to the far north, the southern continent’s massive ice sheets, glaciers, ice shelves (ice that floats on the ocean), and seasonal ice appeared to be reliably frozen: Enough snow fell ...
    1 week ago
  • Auckland’s Persistent Rail Issues
    Over the last few weeks in our weekly roundup we’ve commented on the frequent delays and cancellations that have occurred on the rail network this year since the rail network went back into full operation on the 22-Jan – with Kiwirail proclaiming they had ‘successfully delivered summer holiday infrastructure upgrades ...
    1 week ago

  • Greater support for social workers
    The Coalition Government is enhancing the professionalism of the social work sector and supporting the vulnerable people who rely on them, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says.  The Social Workers Registration Legislation Amendment Bill passed its third reading in Parliament today. It amends the Social Workers Registration Legislation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 mins ago
  • Government delivers greater freedom and choice for sick New Zealanders
    The coalition government is delivering on its commitment to making principled decisions by getting rid of red tape that doesn’t make sense and allowing sick New Zealanders greater freedom and choice to purchase effective cold and flu medicines. A bill amending the Misuse of Drugs Act 1975 is being introduced, and changes to the Medicines ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • Government begins reset of welfare system
    The Coalition Government is taking early action to curb the surge in welfare dependency that occurred under the previous government by setting out its expectations around employment and the use of benefit sanctions, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. In 2017, 60,588 sanctions were applied to beneficiaries who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • State of the Nation
    Ka nui te mihi kia koutou. Kia ora, good morning, talofa, malo e lelei, bula vinaka, da jia hao, namaste, sat sri akal, assalamu alaikum. Thank you for coming to my first State of the Nation as Prime Minister. Thank you for coming to a speech where I don’t just ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • West Coast tourism attractions officially open
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones will attend the official opening of two highly anticipated tourism projects on the West Coast today – Pike29 Memorial Track, dedicated to the memory of the Pike River miners, and Pounamu Pathway. “The Pike29 Memorial Track is a way to remember and honour the men ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Independent ferry service advisory group in place
    Appointments to the Ministerial Advisory Group tasked with providing independent advice and assurance on the future of KiwiRail’s inter-island ferry service have been made, State Owned Enterprises Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “It’s important for New Zealand that KiwiRail is focused on ensuring safe, resilient, and reliable ferry services over the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Joint statement from the Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
    The Prime Ministers of Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on reports of Israel’s planned military operation in Rafah. We are gravely concerned by indications that Israel is planning a ground offensive into Rafah.   A military operation into Rafah would be catastrophic. About 1.5 million Palestinians ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Govt will deliver on expanded breast screening
    The coalition Government has made the first steps in delivering on its promise to  extend free breast screening to women aged 70-74, Health Minister Shane Reti says. “As part of the 100 day plan, the Government has now met with officials and discussed what is needed in order for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government announces woolshed roadshows in support of sheep farmers
    The Government celebrates National Lamb Day (15 February 24) and congratulates sheep farmers on the high-quality products they continue to produce. Agriculture Minister McClay hosted bipartisan celebrations of National Lamb Day with industry representatives at Parliament this week to mark the anniversary of the first frozen lamb exports that left ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Speech: Address to the NZ Economics Forum
    It’s great to be back at the New Zealand Economics Forum. I would like to acknowledge everyone here today for your expertise and contribution, especially the Pro Vice-Chancellor, Head of the Waikato Management School, economists, students and experts alike. A year has passed since I was last before you, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Government tackling high construction costs
    The Government is focused on reducing sky-high construction costs to make it more affordable to build a home, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says.  Stats NZ data shows the cost of building a house has increased by 41 per cent since 2019, making housing even more unaffordable for Kiwi ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Three Waters legislation repealed
    The Coalition Government’s legislative plan to address longstanding issues with local water infrastructure and service delivery took an important step today, with the repeal of Labour’s divisive and unpopular Three Waters legislation, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “Repealing this legislation is a necessary first step in implementing our Local ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Cost of living support for beneficiary households
    The Coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to ease the cost-of-living by increasing main benefit rates in line with inflation and ensuring the Minimum Family Tax Credit threshold remains aligned with this change, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. The Social Security (Benefits Adjustment) and Income Tax ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government announces agriculture delegations to better support Primary sector
    The coalition Government has announced ministerial delegations to support key areas across the Primary sector to deliver for New Zealand’s food and fibre sector, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay announced today. “I will be supported in my roles as Minister of Agriculture, Trade, Forestry and Hunting and Fishing, by three Associate ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Waikato MoU reinforces Govt’s commitment to increase NZ doctors
    The Government has taken an important step forward in addressing a critical shortage of New Zealand-trained doctors, with today’s signing of a Memorandum of Understanding for a third medical school, Minister of Health Dr Shane Reti has announced.  “Today’s signing by the Ministry of Health and the University of Waikato ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Speech – Lunar New Year 2024
    Annyeonghaseyo, greetings and welcome all. It is my pleasure as the Minister for Ethnic Communities to welcome you to the first Lunar New Year Event in Parliament. Thank you to our emcees for greeting us in the different languages that represent the many cultures that celebrate the Lunar New Year. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • More funding to Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti
    Urgent work to clean-up cyclone-affected regions will continue, thanks to a $63 million boost from the Government for sediment and debris removal in Hawke’s Bay and Tairāwhiti.                                                                                                   The funding will help local councils continue urgent work removing and disposing of sediment and debris left from Cyclone Gabrielle.   “This additional ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Budget will be delivered on 30 May
    Plans to deliver tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders, rebuild business confidence and restore the Crown’s finances to order will be unveiled on 30 May, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. The plans will be announced in the Budget which is currently being developed by Ministers.  “The last government’s mismanagement of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Government advances Local Water Done Well
    The Coalition Government is continuing work to restore council ownership and control of water assets by repealing Three Waters and appointing a Technical Advisory Group to provide expert advice on the implementation of Local Water Done Well, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown says. “The Government will pass a bill to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced five new diplomatic appointments.  "Strong and effective diplomacy to protect and advance our interests in the world is needed now more than ever," Mr Peters says.  “We are delighted to appoint senior diplomats from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade to these ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Speech to the Committee for Auckland
    It is great to be here today at this event as Minister for Auckland and Minister ofTransport. Let me start by acknowledging each one of you and thanking the Committee forAuckland for hosting this event and inviting me to speak here today. The Committee for Auckland has been a symbol ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Getting Transport Back on Track in Auckland
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has today confirmed his high-level transport priorities for Auckland, in the lead up to releasing the draft Government Policy Statement on Land Transport. “Our economic growth and productivity are underpinned by a transport network that enables people and freight to move around safely and efficiently. At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government to axe Auckland Regional Fuel Tax
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has confirmed that the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax will end on 30 June 2024. “Today, I can confirm that the Government has agreed to remove the Auckland Regional Fuel Tax in line with our coalition commitments, and legislation will be introduced to parliament to repeal the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Calls for Work to Tackle Kina Barrens
    Changes to fishing rules and a significant science programme are being undertaken to address kina barrens, says Minister for Oceans and Fisheries Shane Jones. “There has been tremendous interest from iwi, communities and recreational fishers who had raised concerns about such kina infestations being a major threat to Northland’s marine ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government law and order crackdown begins
    The coalition Government is making good on its promise to restore law and order by removing government funding for Section 27 reports and abolishing the previous Labour Government’s prison reduction target, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith and Corrections Minister Mark Mitchell say.  “In recent years, the development of Section 27 reports ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Greater focus on getting people into work
    The coalition government will refocus employment efforts and the welfare system so that supporting people who can work into jobs is the number one priority, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Of concern in the labour market statistics released by Stats NZ today was the number of youth not ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • One year on, NZ appeals for release of Phillip Mehrtens
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has appealed to those holding New Zealand pilot Phillip Mehrtens in remote Papua, Indonesia, to release him immediately.  Phillip Mehrtens was taken hostage a year ago on 7 February in Paro, Papua, while providing vital air links and supplies to remote communities. “We strongly urge those holding ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Ministers reaffirm Pacific connections this week
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Health Minister and Minister for Pacific Peoples Dr Shane Reti are reaffirming the importance of New Zealand’s connections to the Pacific by visiting Tonga, Cook Islands and Samoa this week.  “New Zealand enjoys strong and long-standing relationships with our Pacific partners - especially in Polynesia, where we ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Rt Hon Christopher Luxon – Waitangi speech
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, rau rangatira ma. Tēnā koutou katoa. He tino mihi ki te mana whenua o tēnei rohe.  Mihi mai, mihi mai, mihi mai. Te whare e tū nei, tēnā koe.                               He-wāhi whakahirahira tēnei mō Aotearoa. Ka huri nga whakaaro, ki nga mate. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Government awards primary sector scholarships to students
    Six university students studying agriculture and science have been awarded scholarships as part of the coalition Government’s efforts to boost on-the-ground support for farmers and growers. “The coalition Government is committed to improving support and operating conditions for farmers and growers,” Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. “We’re backing a range ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • High Court Judge appointed
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister Jason Scott McHerron as a High Court Judge. Justice McHerron graduated from the University of Otago with a BA in English literature in 1994 and an LLB in 1996. From 1996 to 1999 he worked as a solicitor in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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