WMBAD: #PleaseNewZealand, get out and vote

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14 comments on “WMBAD: #PleaseNewZealand, get out and vote”

  1. Draco T Bastard 1

    STV is not complicated and it does result in the most preferred representative rather than the one that a large minority wants.

  2. Lanthanide 2

    Why are we “getting out” to vote? I thought all voting was postal?

  3. Bea Brown 3

    I can’t be bothered. I don’t know any of them, don’t believe what most of them say and know that the CEO and staff are likely to have much more influence than a bunch of boring people who strangely enjoy going to lots of meetings.
    As for the old argument that if you don’t vote you can’t complain, why not? I still pay rates.

    • gsays 3.1

      Billy Connolly:” don’t vote, it only encourages them.”

    • Draco T Bastard 3.2

      As for the old argument that if you don’t vote you can’t complain, why not?

      Because by not voting you’re actually voting for the outcome that comes about.

      Even doing nothing is a choice with consequences.

      • Lanthanide 3.2.1

        Yes, but how is not voting and having outcome A occur, any different than voting for B and having outcome A occur anyway, because B is unpopular?

        • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.1

          The possibility that outcome B could come about.

          Under your logic we may as well just let the dictators take over.

          • Lanthanide 3.2.1.1.1

            No, there’s nothing about “my logic” at all that says we should let dictators take over, because I’m not arguing that we should or should not vote.

            The statement was: why can’t I complain, if I didn’t vote.

            Your response was: Because by not voting, you’re actually voting for the outcome that comes about. Even doing nothing is a choice.

            You haven’t actually given a cogent reason why someone shouldn’t complain about the outcome of the election, in the case where they didn’t vote.

            It’s quite possible that if they voted, they’d get an outcome they didn’t want, which is the same as if they didn’t vote and got and outcome they didn’t want. What is it about the action of voting that validates ones complaint, and that if you don’t vote, somehow you’re not allowed to complain?

            • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.1.1.1

              You haven’t actually given a cogent reason why someone shouldn’t complain about the outcome of the election, in the case where they didn’t vote.

              Yes I did. I pointed out that that was the outcome that they voted for through abstention thus they cannot say that that wasn’t what they wanted.

              It’s quite possible that if they voted, they’d get an outcome they didn’t want, which is the same as if they didn’t vote and got and outcome they didn’t want.

              No, it’s not the same. The former is an action against the outcome that came about while the latter is action for the outcome that came about.

              • Lanthanide

                Ah, ok, I misread your reply (yes, even though it was really short).

                That makes perfect sense, thanks.

  4. millsy 5

    I voted. The first time since 2001. I didn’t have much to choose from so I went for new blood. Then half the people I voted for turned out to be anti 1080 tinfoil hat wearers.

    Hopefully NPDC will get a half pie progressive council, seeing as most of the hard right austerity councillors voted in last time threw their toys when they couldn’t implement heir agenda.

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