Unconvinced by this. Good to see Poto engage in that constructive discussion, but we are yet to see Willie actually show genuine remorse or a semblance of understanding of why the roadbusters interivew was horrendous. We need contrition from him, not via ...
Northsider - I think your attitude is rubbish. The team is good. Time to take the fight to National not within the Labour Party.
I think it is a decent line-up and most of it should be retained in a year. Grant can be expected to do very well in finance. He's a better communicator than Parker, with better political instincts. I think he will build credibility. King is good choice ...
One of my concerns is that it is not clear to many members of the public what Labour really stands for. What do they get when they vote for us? What do you think the answer to that question should be? How does Labour communicate that?
Cunliffe actively undermined Shearer. Obvious to everyone. Grant was loyal to both Shearer and Cunliffe. There were people in caucus that undermined both, but Grant has clean hands.
@Tautoko Viper - it might be true that DC wasn't given a fair go because of the hatchet job by the MSM etc. It's also probably true that he contributed to that himself by coming across insincere and making a number of jaw-dropping gaffes. But the point is ...
Yes I agree with what Roztoz has said. Just a bit to add regarding the "democratisation"point: Grant was a key advocate of those reforms (perhaps "the" key advocate), including the election of the leader + the new binding policy process. He was integral to...
@Mark: during the election campaign I spent my spare-time trying to make David Cunliffe the Prime Minister. It wasn't the best time to be talking about leadership. Now that there is a leadership race on, I think it makes sense to talk about... leadership. ...
A change in leadership is necessary but not sufficient. It is certainly not *just* about changing leaders. As this post explains well, Grant is more than capable of building a team to demonstrate that Labour is modern, unified, and competent - with a ...
Grant has always been on the left - but he has a brilliant ability to connect left ideas/values with the average NZers. He's never been a "painter on the roof" guy. At the last leadership election he was the first to talk about ending the neoliberal ...
Yawn. Tired, generic attacks on Grant; OTT hero-worship of David. A proud member of the Anyone As Long As They Are Cunliffe group ( AAATAC probably won't catch - back to the drawing -board). Cunliffe isn't a tenable leader. So the people who worship him do...
This post does a great job of articulating some of the reasons why Grant would be an excellent leader. Personally, I'm really pleased to see more people coming out of the wood-work to say these things publicly. Brilliant.
Ha. Actually I have posted a couple of times over the last couple of days. It can be quite a hostile environment down here, just trying to share the love.
Street is perfectly capable of acting without Grant. In fact, she did! Nothing in either article suggests that Grant was part of it. Grant was not part of it. He supported Shearer as his deputy. Of course... that was at the same time DC was undermining ...
Exactly. Point well made Torney.
I have asked Grant. And I got much better than "nice sounding waffle" - he was able to articulate a compelling message to me about how Labour can reconnect with voters and build its support base. How we can show we are modern party, connected with NZers ...
Except he didn't. And I think if you make that claim, the onus is on you to adduce at least some basis for it. Cunliffe, on the other hand, well we all know he openly undermined Shearer.
paddy - that is a conspiracy theory which has absolutely no basis in fact. It's David Cunliffe fan fiction. I was in WC for some of the campaign. Everything Grant did was about the PV. All his materials were about the PV. At the debate you mention, Grant ...
Well that is complete nonsense. He is an extremely popular local MP and outstanding at constituency work. "I've heard many say"? Hm... have to wonder if those "many" are actually spreading rumours for an ulterior purpose don't you.
Grant was Shearer's deputy. There is absolutely no evidence that he was anything but completely loyal to Shearer. That is a baseless, malicious rumour.
Chooky, of course the right-wing/National Party attacked David Cunliffe. There's not much use in the Labour Party complaining about that. It's what we tried to do to Key (although I think the Dirty Politics stuff should be exposed, attempts to undermine ...
I'm a democratic socialist. And we should recognise and celebrate that we have moved the party a long way since '08. It was a shame we lost industry standard agreements from our manifesto this time (thanks DC), but we actually had a some excellent policies...
None of what you said refutes anything I said. The PV has dropped in Wellington Central. It dropped basically everywhere. The "swing" in WC was less than the nationwide swing on the preliminary numbers. Let's wait for specials to know that for sure. The PV...
They aren't. A good number of them liked the "DC for leader" FB page. I mean they are good at trolling both sides really. I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
Actually we went up significantly in the polls after the 2011 Election. In April 2013 the polls had Labour/Greens able to form a Government. In August 2013 we were close and Labour was polling in the 30s. And then... goodness what happened then? It's not ...
"I really find it odd how readily some accept the idea that Robertson, Mallard, whoever, would deliberately damage their own career prospects, remuneration and place in history out of spite. It makes utterly no sense." It's bizarre. They are very far down ...
That's a lot of bluster but very little of it is true. You don't speak for the "membership in Wellington" or the membership of anywhere else. If you are a member, you can speak for yourself. Grant has an impressive electorate organisation with 100s of ...
No he didn't.
Excuse me. I am a "grassroots member" and I will be voting for Grant. Speak for yourself.
Absolutely agree. As a Grant supporter, I hope Grant would tell Cosgrove to shut-up and move on. These comments about Karen Price's twitter are the latest stupidity from him. He doesn't know when to keep out of it. He doesn't campaign for the party vote. ...
I wish.
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