web analytics

A discussion on the media

Written By: - Date published: 10:32 am, January 18th, 2015 - 24 comments
Categories: blogs, journalism, Media - Tags: , ,

The team at Scoop are running a series called “The State of the NZ News Media – A Public Conversation”.

The first piece, by Scoop Editor Alistair Thompson, is called “Reinventing News As A Public Right – A Public Conversation”.

The second, by Alison McCulloch, is “Stop The Press”.

Both are well worth a read, of course, and they also invite us to join the discussion via a mailing list. The future of Scoop (Operation Chrysalis – “Reinventing Scoop Together”) is a particular focus.

(Just while we’re on the subject of media, no doubt Cameron Slater’s new media venture will see the light of day at some point – see Pete George’s “Freed from what?”)


And just while we’re passing…

https://twitter.com/ow/status/556545199258611712

24 comments on “A discussion on the media”

  1. Skinny 1

    A lot of people are tuning out from the media they don’t read, watch or listen to what’s happening outside of their own world. I questioned a guy that I knew deliberately switches off to the news media. He raised some relevant points about it’s usually grim etc. I guess there would be a connection to people not bothering to vote and general apathy on issues.

    • Macro 1.1

      I stopped watching TV 4 years ago, and haven’t read a NZ newspaper in years. Doesn’t stop me voting though.

    • Tom Jackson 1.2

      Well, perhaps people are taking a more realistic attitude towards NZ media. Globalisation means that the real decisions are taken overseas, so John Key is really nothing more significant than the governor of the equivalent of Kentucky or British Columbia, or perhaps the mayor of a reasonably large metro area.

      If you’ve ever lived in one of these places, the media is usually third rate and obsessed with the things that matter at that regional level of politics and the stuff that interests the local hayseeds and regional bigwigs. In short it looks a lot like the NZ media – even down to the horrible, ill-fitting clothes worn by the news anchors.

      There’s plenty of real news. It’s just covered in foreign papers.

    • Colonial Rawshark 1.3

      The MSM only speaks largely to the top 20% of NZers nowadays, and renders most other people invisible. Thousand dollar gowns at the Ellerslie races any one? How about that nice show on how to do up and sell your rental property in Parnell for a good little profit? And all the gourmet cooking shows! Families I know who are trying to keep their grocery bills under $150/week watch those all the time, for their relevance.

      Although to be fair, if you are poor and you are Maori, you’ll get some MSM focus whenever there is a gang altercation or case of benefit fraud.

  2. adam 2

    Do you think they will take a submission that the are nothing more than propaganda, and should just call it a day? Nah probably not.

    There is no 4th estate in NZ

    There are no milk cows on our farms

    There is no depression in NZ

    we can all keep perfectly calm…

  3. Herodotus 3

    Scoop (Alistair T) have done some great work here.
    IMO what is really lacking in our media is some good political satirists with a suitable platform to air their work. As it is far more damaging belittling the actions our leaders and government with the cleaver use of humour. Instead we get feed a stage managed 20-30 sec sound bite that has been prepared by the PR keepers and delivered by S&W impersonators. e.g. the release of John Keys diary !!!
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11366197
    “..Yesterday I misunderstood the question when I was asked what day it was.
    I should have said Monday but as usual the media were up to their old tricks, and twisted my words. What I’d said to them was, “At the end of the day it’s not Monday.” Which is correct, because at the stroke of midnight or just after, it’s Tuesday…”
    Cutting, relevant and sums this up 🙂

  4. I find the TV news unwatchable, trite, and infested by empty-headed narcissists. At least newspapers still report stories with minimal parading of the reporter’s ego in front of a camera.

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Given that about 90% of “live crosses” don’t actually serve any purpose in reporting the news, one has to wonder how much longer they’ll go on for when it boils down to a reporter standing in front of a building with a phone on a selfie stick.

    • tracey 5.1

      we got by without “live” crosses when I was young… you had the news reader and a tape that got played. Fewer people in front of cameras and more focus on news (not opinion) behind the camera.

  6. Truth Will Out 6

    It doesn’t help that the so-called opposition parties present bugger all opposition to some of the issues which the Key led regime need to be called out on.

    A very good example was South Canterbury Finance.

    Labour stayed quiet on that due to a combination of political expediency and highly risk averse political strategy.

    The whole process was a complete farce and has been utterly riddled with conflicts of interest, and the standard cronyism and corruption which surrounds everything Key touches.

    But where was Labour on it?

    Hiding in the corner, pretending it wasn’t happening.

    Same with the banks, utterly rorting this country and exploiting the financial illiteracy of the masses.

    And where is Labour on it?

    Morphing into National-lite with their silence, presenting no opposition.

    When Dirty Politics came along, the media ran with it and Key took a hiding.

    Key and his acolytes can claim all they like that it had no effect, but Key’s own reactions reveal the degree to which it rattled them.

    And the MSM were not entirely kind to him over it either, backed into corners themselves because their own support for him ran out of corners to hide in due to the sheer distastefulness of his actions and his relationship with an obviously psychotic blogger.

    So the fact is that if the opposition parties actually challenged a lot more of the crap that has gone on (and is going on) around Key, the MSM would almost certainly have no choice but to run with it.

    Even the Editor of the Herald described the Sky City deal as John Key running a banana republic without the banana’s, so it is fair to say they do not always do him favours.

    The media has SOME of the current state of affairs to answer for, but not all of it.

    The fact is they may have little choice but to manufacture news in the vacuum created by the opposition’s consistent unwillingness to oppose many of the things which are really screwing New Zealanders.

    Labour could help themselves by giving the MSM some meat to actually sink their teeth into.

    Watching so many people wringing their hands in this forum, claiming that Labour is somehow a perpetual victim of the MSM, is frankly intellectually dishonest.

    Labour is a bigger victim of it’s own unwillingness to present strident opposition to Key’s consistent erosion of democracy and the integrity of our systems of government and justice.

    It could just be that the MSM is waiting for Labour and the other so-called opposition parties to do their jobs, which is to actively oppose Key and what he is doing, emphatically.

  7. dave 7

    New Zealand media are crap why would we waste our time or viewing to give these want to be never to be any ratings at all until they start doing there jobs properly give harger his own show and let him loose. then there might be something worth watching.

  8. Weepus beard 8

    I’m starting to rethink my opinion of Pete George.

    He simply cannot be pinned down. Argumentative, fiercely independent, and sometimes infuriatingly obtuse. Also, ultra-political, but strangely unbranded by either the right or the left.

    He seems to get an earful from all sides but that does not dampen his enthusiasm one bit.

    Perhaps he really does just want to clean up government.

    • Colonial Rawshark 8.1

      😯

      • Weepus beard 8.1.1

        Lol. I can understand your shock but he doesn’t just micro-argue topics here, it’s all over the place.

        And he hates Slater with as much passion as he’s able to muster, so in my book he’s ok.

        • Murray Rawshark 8.1.1.1

          Hating Slug Boy does rate as a positive. I thought his piece on Freed was OK, but I couldn’t bring myself to comment and encourage him. That probably says something about me 🙂

          Scoop runs some interesting stuff. Stuff doesn’t run interesting scoops. I’ll try to support Scoop in some way.

        • Pete George 8.1.1.2

          I don’t hate Slater. I agree with some of what he says and commend him for some of what he has achieved. But I hold him to account, which I think is important for someone who rates himself as the biggest baddest blogger around with even bigger ambitions.

          This post on possible ‘pay for post’ is more important (but has implications for Freed): Curious – Whale Oil versus Uber post

          Ironically I pinged mickysavage for overplaying ‘Dirty Politics’ this morning and he missed this which could be much closer to it.

          • Weepus beard 8.1.1.2.1

            Yes. I noticed that too, although forgot quite quickly with the kids’ summer holidays being in full swing.

            Even the titles one week to the next were enough for any observer to be suspicious that Slater had done a complete about face on Uber having been paid to do so.

            PG, I know you don’t want to necessarily be known for it, but Slaterwatch is a venerable pursuit in today’s New Zealand and you have a talent for it.

            Also, I’m not as charitable as you on Slater. I do hate him because I think he promotes societal hate and division for his own profit.

  9. Bunnykinz 10

    A political journalist admitting that the political media singles out only one party for scrutiny:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/65159674/a-gameplan-that-may-just-work-for-little

    The horrible thing is that she doesn’t seem to have an issue with a supposed independent media acting as National’s attack dogs.

    • tracey 10.1

      It is an odd mixture of an article… I read it yesterday and couldn’t quite work out if she was taking a stance or not.

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • National Does the Nation a Disservice
    Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters today called for National Party and Opposition leader Judith Collins to stop undermining democracy. “New Zealanders are sadly being fed a steady stream of misinformation about the pre-election period from the National Party,” said Mr Peters. “Its effect is to sow doubt about the legitimacy ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Speech at the graduation of Wing 340
    Graduation of Wing 340 2pm, 13 August 2020, The Royal New Zealand Police College [CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY] Introduction Ladies and gentlemen, it is a privilege to be here today to celebrate the graduation of Wing 340. Let us begin by acknowledging the presence of Coalition Government colleague, Police Minister the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Transitional housing provides much needed support for Taumarunui whānau
                                                                     Transitional housing provides much needed support for Taumarunui whānau   New emergency and transitional homes will help ease a housing shortage in Taumarunui and provide whānau with much needed support, say Māori Development Minister, Nanaia Mahuta and Whānau Ora Minister, Peeni Henare.  The Ministers officially opened five two-bedroom units ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Government announces plan to tackle problem plastics and seven single-use plastic items
    Following the success of the phase out of single-use plastic shopping bags, the Government now has plans to phase out more single-use and problem plastics to reduce waste and protect the environment announced Associate Minister for the Environment Eugenie Sage. The proposals are to phase-out: some hard-to-recycle PVC and polystyrene ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New opportunities for Kōpū marine facilities
    A commercial and industrial site in Thames-Coromandel will receive $8.2 million to revamp its marine-servicing infrastructure and create new economic development opportunities, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones has announced. This project is being supported from the $3 billion ‘shovel ready’ fund set aside in Budget 2020 to kick-start the post COVID-19 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • PM comments on Auckland COVID-19 case
    After 102 days we have our first cases of Covid-19 outside of a Managed Isolation or Quarantine facility in New Zealand. Shortly I will ask Dr Bloomfield to set out the details of the case. While we have all worked incredibly hard to prevent this scenario, we have also planned ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Significant investment in Raukūmara Pae Maunga to prevent Raukūmara forest collapse
    An iwi-Crown approach programme to restore the Raukūmara forest on the East Coast of the North Island and boost employment opportunities for whānau, particularly rangatahi/young people, will receive $34 million funding, Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage has announced. “Raukūmara Pae Maunga is a partnership with Te Whānau-ā-Apanui, Ngāti Porou, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New partnership central to delivering more Māori housing
    Government agencies and partners are working closer together to provide more Māori Housing through the Te MAIHI o te Whare Māori – the Māori and Iwi Housing Innovation Framework for Action (MAIHI). MAIHI is a kaupapa Māori approach that drives a system change to give effect and impact on Māori ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Manawatū Gorge replacement highway drives forward
    Site work is soon to begin on Te Ahu a Turanga: Manawatū Tararua Highway, the project to replace the former SH3 route through the Manawatū Gorge, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Phil Twyford was today in Woodville at the signing of a formal agreement by members of the Alliance ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Pacific Ministers meet to discuss regional economic priorities
    The Pacific Islands Forum Economic Ministers Meeting (FEMM) begins today and will focus on the major economic and social impacts of COVID-19 on the Pacific.  FEMM is an important congregation of Economic Ministers and senior officials from around the region, and for the first time, the annual meeting will be ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Formal apology and payment to George Nepata
    Cabinet has approved a formal apology and ex gratia payment to former soldier George Nepata, announced Defence Minister Ron Mark. This payment is to recognise the New Zealand Defence Force’s failure to provide Mr Nepata with a safe system of work in April 1989 when, as a result of an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Report into Iain Lees-Galloway’s expenditure
    A report undertaken by Ministerial Services into Iain Lees-Galloway’s ministerial expenditure has found no evidence of any inappropriate transactions or spending. Ministerial Services undertook a line by line review of all his expenditure, including staff and spouse expenses for the period 1 January 2019 to 30 June 2020.  “I commissioned ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Managed isolation charges to start 11 August
    Managed isolation charges for returnees will come into force from 12.01am Tuesday 11th August, after they passed their last cabinet milestone today, Housing Minister Megan Woods said. “The new charging system balances the rights of New Zealanders to return home and helps reduce pressure on the managed isolation and quarantine ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Update on New Zealand and the Cook Islands travel bubble
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Henry Puna have welcomed the completion of phase one in the establishment of a travel bubble between New Zealand and the Cook Island. Negotiations on the text of an ‘Arrangement to Facilitate Quarantine-Free Travel ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • One-stop ‘jobs and training’ shop goes live
    The Government has launched a new online, phone and onsite service to help New Zealanders connect to a range of employment support and products for workers and businesses affected by COVID-19, announced Minister of Education Chris Hipkins and Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni. Connected.govt.nz is a one-stop-shop for jobseekers, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • MSD security guards to be paid Living Wage
    Security guards contracted to the Ministry of Social Development will be paid at least the Living Wage from next month supporting the Government’s commitment towards fair pay and employment conditions, announced Minister for  Social Development Carmel Sepuloni.   “MSD was  among the first government agencies to pay its employees the living ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New strategy to ensure nature thrives
    The Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage today launched Te Mana o te Taiao, the Aotearoa New Zealand Biodiversity Strategy - a way forward that envisions Aotearoa New Zealand as a place where ecosystems are healthy and resilient, and people embrace the natural world. “Many of New Zealand’s plants and wildlife species ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Provider Languages Fund will support Pacific Wellbeing approach
    “Pacific languages, cultures and identity are essential to the health, wellbeing and lifetime success of our Pacific peoples and their communities in Aotearoa. The strength and resilience of Pacific Aotearoa is not only vital to their own prosperity but integral to the prosperity of all New Zealanders, and is particularly ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: More funding for schools and boost to construction sector
    ·       $38 million to help schools cover unexpected costs related to COVID-19 ·       $69 million upgrade for online learning ·       $107 million contingency funding to support school construction suppliers facing additional costs due to the lockdown. The Government is releasing $214 million from the COVID-19 response and recovery fund to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Stay safe on the tracks – Rail Safety Week
    Despite the Government installing safety upgrades around the country, people should still take care around rail crossings, said Transport Minister Phil Twyford launching Rail Safety Week. Phil Twyford said installing safety infrastructure is crucial, but we are encouraging people to be more careful around trains too. “We’re making good progress ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Government backs Manawatū social housing project
    The Government is providing a cash injection to help Palmerston North City Council complete a programme to provide 78 social housing units for vulnerable tenants. The $4.7 million to build 28 units in the Papaioea Place redevelopment comes from the $3 billion set aside for infrastructure in the Government’s COVID-19 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Major funding boost for Predator Free Banks Peninsula
    A pest free Banks Peninsula/Te Pātaka o Rākaihautū is one step closer with a $5.11 million boost to accelerate this project and create jobs, announced Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage in Canterbury today. “This is a game changer for this ambitious project to restore the native wildlife and plants on Ōtautahi/Christchurch’s doorstep ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Major investment for indoor sports in Hawke’s Bay
    A Government grant of $6.4 million will expand the Pettigrew Arena in Taradale with new indoor courts of national standard. “The project is likely to take 18 months with approximately 300 people employed through the process,” Grant Robertson said. “The expansion will increase the indoor court space up to 11 ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • New infrastructure for Far North tourist town
    The Far North tourist destination of Mangonui is to receive Government funding to improve waterfront infrastructure, open up access to the harbour and improve water quality, Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones has announced. A total of $6.5 million from the $3 billion set aside in the COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Government remains committed to Women’s Cricket World Cup
    The Government has re-affirmed its commitment to supporting the hosting of the ICC Women’s Cricket World Cup, which the ICC has delayed from 2021 to 2022. “This is obviously a disappointing decision for cricket players and fans around the world and for the White Ferns and their supporters here at ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Green light for Te Awa River Ride in $220m nationwide cycleways investment
    Cyclists and walkers will now have a safer way to get around Taupō, Tūrangi, and between Hamilton and Cambridge, with funding for shared paths and Te Awa River Ride, Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter announced today. “The Te Awa River Ride is the latest part of massive growth ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Six major ‘shovel-ready’ cycleways funded in Christchurch
    Six major cycle routes will be completed in Christchurch thanks to funding from the Government’s investment in shovel-ready infrastructure as part of the COVID-19 recovery Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter announced today. $125 million will be invested to kick-start construction and fund the completion of the following cycleway ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New Police facilities for Whanganui
    Plans are underway for a brand new state-of-the-art hub for Whanganui’s justice and social agencies, following confirmation the ageing Whanganui Central Police Station is to be replaced. Police Minister Stuart Nash has announced $25 million in new infrastructure spending to improve facilities for the wider community, and for staff who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Relativity adjustment for Waikato-Tainui and Ngāi Tahu
    An adjustment payment has been made to Waikato-Tainui and Ngāi Tahu under the relativity mechanisms in their 1995 and 1997 Treaty of Waitangi settlements, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little announced today. The latest payments to Waikato-Tainui and Ngāi Tahu are $2,700,000 and $2,600,000 respectively to ensure the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Auckland rail upgrades pick up steam
    Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Transport Minister Phil Twyford today kicked off the start of the Auckland NZ Upgrade Programme rail projects which will support over 400 jobs and help unlock our biggest city. Both ministers marked the start of enabling works on the third main rail line project ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • PGF support for Wairoa creates jobs
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) investment of $3.78 million in Wairoa will create much needed economic stimulus and jobs, Under-Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau announced today. PGF projects announced today include: $200,000 loan to Nuhaka Kiwifruit Holdings Ltd (operated by Pine Valley Orchard Ltd) to increase the productivity ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Public and Māori housing to trial renewable energy technology
    Tenants in public and Māori housing may be benefiting from their own affordable renewable energy in future – a fund to trial renewable energy technology for public and Māori housing has today been announced by Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods and Associate Minister for Housing (Māori Housing) Nanaia Mahuta. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • $2.7m for Hokianga infrastructure
    Hokianga will receive $2.7 million to redevelop four of its wharves and upgrade its water supply, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. Far North District Council will receive $1.8 million from the Provincial Growth Fund for the work on the wharves. “The work will include the construction of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • New fund to support housing and construction sector
    A $350 million Residential Development Response Fund is being established to support the residential construction sector and to minimise the economic impact from COVID-19, the Housing Minister Dr Megan Woods has announced. “The Residential Development Response Fund will help to progress stalled or at-risk developments that support our broader housing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Government investment to boost Auckland’s community recycling network
    As part of a broader plan to divert waste from landfill, the Government today announced $10.67 million for new infrastructure as part of the Resource Recovery Network across the Auckland region. “This key investment in Auckland’s community recycling network is part of the Government’s Infrastructure Reference Group ‘shovel ready’ projects ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Te Papa transformation starts at Cameron Road
    The Government is investing $45 million in the first stage of an ambitious urban development project for Tauranga that will employ up to 250 people and help the region grow, Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says the funding has been allocated out of the $3 billion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Low-emissions options for heavy transport a step closer
    Getting low-emission trucks on the road is a step closer with investment in infrastructure to support hydrogen vehicles, the Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods has announced. The Infrastructure Reference Group has provisionally approved $20 million for New Plymouth company Hiringa Energy to establish a nationwide network of hydrogen-fuelling stations. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • New training centre to upskill workers
    A new trades training centre to upskill the local workforce will be built in the South Waikato town of Tokoroa through funding from the Government’s COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund, Education Minister Chris Hipkins and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones have announced. The Government will contribute $10.84 million from ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Subsequent children legislation to change
    The Government has agreed to repeal part of the Oranga Tamariki Act subsequent children provisions, Minister for Children Tracey Martin announced today. “There are times when children need to go into care for their safety – the safety and care of children must always be paramount,” Minister Martin said. “But ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Funding to expand mental health support for Pacific peoples
    A $1.5 million boost to grow primary mental health and addiction services for Pacific peoples in Auckland, Hamilton and Canterbury will lead to better outcomes for Pacific communities, Associate Health Minister Jenny Salesa says.  Pasifika Futures has received funding to expand services through The Fono, Aotearoa New Zealand’s largest by ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago