Still name calling eh J90. You've said in comments that you're unhealthy. No need to wish to drag others down to your level.
Vaccines, shed virus, maim and kill. That science is settled.
If you read some of the links you could, if so inclined find a way to move on from the name calling, and just accept that you are unhealthy, and others are not responsible for yours, or any other human beings health.
That vaccine is actually killing children…it’s not just sort of a differential effect…it’s killing children …it’s not because it saves boys…the vaccine is killing children…
Heh, from the talk this morning you would think it was as common as a common thing.
This is where resistance for the mass medication arguements arises for me.
Talk of denying children early education unless they are immunised is the thin edge of a dispicable wedge.
I got looking and talking about measles in Aotearoa. In the area I live in (Mid Central Health), there hasn't been a hospitilization from measles this year.
HPH is not a source I would be ever cite…a so called medical professional who links to Gorski, and writes in a style completely out of the Gorski name calling training manual.
Highly inappropriate for a so called medical professional…
HPH has also be accused of misconduct in an open letter to the WHO.
In the many years since a childhood pertussis infection one of my brothers has endured respiratory problems, chest infections, pleurisy, pneumonia, courtesy of his chronic bronchiectasis. Influenza might well be the biggest threat to his life and every year I worry that this might be the winter.
I'm grateful he has the opportunity to be vaccinated.
How many sad stories have you got to share about your family joe?
Stories that apparently empower you to use bigoted insults towards others who have been damaged or killed by vaccines…or who just wish to exercise their right to bodily autonomy and to say no…or their parental right to say no for their children…
I'm grateful he has the opportunity to be vaccinated.
And that is well and good. Just leave it there when other people make a choice not to vaccinate themselves or their children…especially after a vaccine injury or death to their loved one...
You should extend concern for your bothers well being …outwards in a more positive way…eh Joe.
How many hundred thousand? Because depending on the age definition of "children", you're still claiming about 1% (at a lower bound) of Africa's child mortality is due to experimentation of vaccines.
Why should your experiences enable you to be so callous towards others..
Was it the hundreds of thousands of children killed per year by vaccines in the African countries used for experiments
Africans, many more female than males…killed by vaccines…millions of them
You've just thrown hundreds of thousands, and then millions of African kids under the hypocrisy bus, and try to smear joe90 with your own budget brand 'special' sauce.
@ joe. That is where your credibility just falls over.
You have your stories of your family and then put your repeated dog wanking epiphet after it, then its hard to have any empathy for you, let alone your arguement for vacination.
you put the urban dictionary reference in last time, I didn’t look then either.
Anyhoo, off to bed.
One shouldn’t under estimate the benefits of sleep.
Nighty nite.
hey one two you're coming across like a cartoon badguy – slimey insincerity and caustic vibe off your every comment – is that what you want? not cool dude.
Fucken do that count to 10 (TEN) like I taught you – it WILL work. Come on you can do it just fucken try.
hey one two you're coming across like a cartoon badguy – slimey insincerity and caustic vibe off your every comment
Nah bro…you're just looking for things which aren't there…why are you still trying to do that…
Have you not abused my comments enough in recent times…now your trying to paint yourself as something you most definitely are not…
You should really stop pretending to be able to read comments…and start asking your angry mates to stop hurling abusive insults….instead of popping up on mine…again…
not cool dude.
Jail jokes, are definitely not cool…bro.
Edit. I see you edited that comment…back to the bad language…and projected anger …again….
two bros eh one two, two? and somehow you're racism is okay? hard habit to break but your anger is destructive – it is NOT okay to be racist at any time one two anytime at all – ffs count to ten one two don't do it cos I say do it no do it for yourself one two do it for yourself lad
Edit. I see you edited that comment…back to the bad language…and projected anger …again….
Why are you so desperate to project you anger issues into others?
Deliberately two bros…I call many people bro…they come from all around the world…and are all ethnic backgrounds…including tanagata whenua, pacifika, african american and many others…
It is very ugly for you to repeatedly cry racism at any opportunity…to other commentators here…
Why are you so desperate to project you anger issues into others?
You used the term 'bro' as a weapon against me, knowing I'm Māori . You're too weak to own up to your own weakness – bit of a dilemma eh noddy lol – don't worry I've dealt to dogshit racists for years and I don't forget that stuff mores the pity lol
I also believe it to be a form of targeted racism. I can't say I recall 12 calling anyone else on here bro, though of course, they are free to link and prove me incorrect.
I can see why you're fighting so hard against the accusation, but it looks like you have no defence, here.
In your attempt to bait and attack MM, you let your racist cat out of the bag. I, like many others, think that bag should have long been tossed into a canal.
I like to be sure those I engage with are doing so in good faith…
Also I observe the type of engagement to see if the subject matter could be harmful to the receiver…if I get an indication then I'll stop replying…
You're an interesting case.. having not changed styles since before you disappeared…
Your style is all over the place in an inarticulat, almost manic manner…hence the question..
Marty is an angry abusive with a long history of crying racism at any moment…
You seen similar, in that you're bouncing around trying to find shelter of a sort..comfort in something…Which is why your grandstanding marty bandwagon show is so obvious…
Takes a disturbed mind to provide an echo on a someone else's fake racism callouts..
You've been caught red handed being racist and belittling autism.
For one who argues against vaccinations partly because they, according to you cause spectrum disorders, shows exactly where your head is in the game.
You're as genuine as a $10 rolex.
Best you take your vegan dog out to shit on your unmowed lawns before heading off to bed to sleep it off.
You never could best me in a debate. No need to think you can now, especially when you're bang to rights.
You're only saving grace is this is very late and tomorrow everyone will move on to the next days bullshit-a-go-round, but we'll always know, won't we, eh? 😉
i followed you original link. The one you posted way up above. It’s a boring narrative from an anthropologist. Not someone who should be the sole authority on whether vaccines cause harm. Despite his claims of meeting a guy who supports his observations.
There weren’t “hundreds and thousands” of deaths claimed either? So wees poos, how did that verifiably bullshit claim climb to millions? Extrapolating conclusions from an incomplete and / or unverifiable data set is the cardinal sin of statistics and refutes all arguments made off of it.
Busy day. I generally react poorly to stuff that is conveyed with conspiracy language and tactics, even though as you know I am not blind to the weaknesses of current knowledge and systems.
Not me sacha, I had just checked out the furore after (now regrettably) engaging with joe.
One thing I notice through these diatribes is no-one has negated Rosemary's observation of the placenta/breast feeding observation regarding pertussis.
Rosemary’s posting (on today’s OM @22.3) of Prof. Christine Stabell Benn’s TEDx talk on the unrecognised effects of attenuated live vaccines was a real eye opener for me.
Interesting to investigate the epidemiology of online vax 'debates' and how they mutate/degenerate into slagging matches. Might be a thesis in it
The anti-vax movement started in the 18th century when Reverend Edmund Massey in England called the vaccines “diabolical operations” in his 1772 sermon. He described vaccination as an attempt to oppose God’s punishments upon man for his sins.
Perhaps instead of using pejorative smears and linking to a study which could be viewed as <em>inflammatory…</em>
Perhaps invest some online time into researching the tactics which the vaccine industry and regulators/authorities/academia (also the industry) perform to distort the entirity of a discussion…
In fact the spin put on it since Jenner is nothing short of transparent…
The emperor has no cloths.
Do better than using insulting tropes Drowsy…you're better than that…I reckon…
Prof. Benn says that the medical establishment are largely ignoring (inconvenient) findings on the unrecognised/unexpected (non-specific) effects (both beneficial and harmful) of vaccines. She thinks that "the main reason for this is the polarised vaccine debate."
She also says this (a direct quote from her TEDx talk, @13:30):
"This makes vaccines the largest untapped resource for improving health globally."
That’s a clear message. Please, don't shoot the messenger.
I admire the passion and energy with which you present your cause, but think your views are wrong.
I respectfully ask that you address this direct quote (@13:30):
"This makes vaccines the largest untapped resource for improving health globally."
If you choose to dismiss Prof. Benn's research because of that quote, then (IMHO) that is your loss, much as it is the loss of the medical establishment.
Antivax is great until the chickens come home to roost…
Auckland couple Ian and Linda Williams thought they had made an informed decision against immunising their three children because of concerns over adverse reactions.
As much as I'd prefer Collins as Leader over Bridges, the die is set, Bridges is leading National into 2020.
If Bridges is rolled this side of the election it will be like Labour 2008 -2017, his supporters will undermine Collins or whoever becomes the leader and guarantee an electoral loss and the policial death of whoever replaced him.
National will lose with Bridges in charge that's pretty much a certainty unless Bridges stands aside voluntarily, which is hardly likely, it makes little sense for Collins to overthrow Bridges and assume the leadership.
Unless Ardern does something incredibly stupid like threatening to ban facebook then 2020 is in the bag.
Edit. I didn’t read your last line when i typed above.
Damn near any polly that stood on an agenda of banning FB would get my vote.
After all isnt society better off without a company that facilitates a live stream of a mass murder?
"Peters may find he doesn’t get much a reception from dairy farmers on that unless he can deliver on the growing demand for a debate on the use of genetically edited ryegrass which has been developed by AgResearch but which cannot be planted outside the laboratory in New Zealand because of anti-genetic modification legislation."
"The Prime Minister’s former Chief Science Advisor, Sir Peter Gluckman, has called for a debate on this and has said he doubts agriculture will be economically viable if it is to meet the methane targets with access to genetically edited grass. But when the Prime Minister was asked last week whether there was a case to admit the use of the ryegrass she didn’t directly address the question."
I guess that's due to her science advisor not yet having briefed her on the issue. I suspect she may since have requested that briefing!!
The Green caucus will be thrilled at the prospect of having to munch on a genetically-modified dead rat. Or maybe they will draw the line over it. If so, how can they do so without triggering an early election? Genuine question. I hope they reject the fundamentalist GE stance. Farmers need incentives to play ball.
I have not and will not have a bar of Zuckerburgs dalliance, but it is clear I am in a small minority.
I'm part of that minority. Might be more of us than you realise. The problem is, they're making life difficult for us FB abstainers because just about every cyber outlet is going FB these days and leaving us behind.
Yes facebook is being adopted as the default for quick contact. It feels like early days when Microsoft ruled the waves, and government bought into it wholesale.
@ Anne (5.1) … Particularly agree with your final paragraph.
I'm a non FB user as well and I know plenty more non users of the medium. I value my privacy too much to feel the need to share my personal details with all and sundry.
I enjoy keeping up to date with alternative news sites, such as TS TDB and the like. Much more informative. Personally I'd rather be informed than influenced.
@ mary_a
I'm not au fait with the workings of FB, but it seems to me that it would be reasonably easy to break into a site and harass a person for political or personal reasons. Having had the misfortune to be targeted in such a way more than once, I'm not going to put myself in a position where somebody can do it to me again.
We'll have a look tomorrow, maybe even participate in a survey. Jaded folk that we are…pretty sure these questions have been asked in years past, and still it is not mandatory to future proof all state/social housing. We have finally cleared away twenty years of grot and got our accessible family home ready to be sold. Scouted around a number of agents and settled on the one who wasn't shy about putting 'wheelchair access' in the marketing blurbs. You'd be surprised how many agents think having an accessible house is a turn off to buyers. Luckily we have the Bus to live in if the house sells, as there's bugger all in the way of accessible housing out there!
Rosemary and partner – you are bold adventurers. Hope the sale brings in good money. I hope you will be able to park the bus in places where you find compatible people that will be good friends.
We're not selling the house to make good money…we're selling it because it is too big now the kids have grown and flown and we simply can't afford to keep it.
We will park the Bus in places where we can meet people who won't call me a lying nutter.
Ooh cool, take it sweet Rosemary. Get away from those people they are hurting you. Let us know how you get on and what good things have happened lately, we mustn't let the negative settle on us.
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Cruel and invalid Forced Swim Tests carried out at Victoria University of Wellington, will be exposed at the University Open Day today, so prospective students can be warned about the flawed and unethical research being conducted at the institute. ...
The organiser of the annual YWCA Equal Pay Awards has expressed her disappointment with the latest Gender Pay Gap figure for New Zealand workers. The figure rose slightly from 9.2% in 2018 to 9.3% for the quarter ended 30 June 2019. ...
The Council of Licenced Firearm Owners (COLFO) is urging firearms owners to pass on information to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Attack on Christchurch Mosques now that the period for submissions has been extended to 27 September. ...
An application was filed in the Employment Relations Authority in Wellington today, seeking an injunction to prevent the Board of the New Zealand Nurses Organisation from removing the President from office. ...
The Government’s commitment to support literacy and numeracy training in the workplace is a strong signal from Government on recognising the importance of upskilling, reskilling and increasing productivity alongside their commitment to address the challenges ...
“The infrastructure sector sees a major role for the New Zealand Infrastructure Commission/Te Waihanga in lifting the nation’s sagging infrastructure performance,” says Paul Blair, incoming CEO of Infrastructure NZ. ...
The AA is calling on the Government to bring forward critical highway projects while time is spent properly developing the plans for a rapid transit system in Auckland. ...
Between 2015/16 and 2017/18, DHBs spent $280 million treating patients due to adverse drug reactions, reveals the New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union in its latest briefing paper on health productivity . ...
The Pay Equity Coalition Auckland (PECA) is pleased the gender pay gap has decreased slightly. Statistics released today show the gap is now 11.9%, nearly 2 percent less than last year. ...
The Council of Licenced Firearm Owners (COLFO) is urging firearms owners to make sure they pass on any information they have to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Attack on Christchurch Mosques before submissions close tomorrow (Friday). ...
The big electricity companies consider solar energy “disruptive” and want pricing to suppress it. In contrast, advocates of local energy say that solar, energy efficiency, and other local energy solutions are the cheapest ways to reduce carbon emissions. ...
The Earthquake Commission and Shine Lawyers are delighted to announce that EQC has reached an agreement with the Gibling family, agreeing to cover the cost of repairs of remaining earthquake damage on their property. ...
Four months into the inquiry, the Royal Commission is gathering significant information and continues to receive valuable submissions from the public, from current and former State servants, experts and community groups. ...
While Fish & Game New Zealand is pleased to see Federated Farmers Environment Spokesperson Chris Allen say that 'we all want good, fresh water', he conveniently overlooks some key facts. ...
What: Wellington demo “Save the Amazon Forest/Salve a Amazônia!” When: Friday, 6 September 2019 from 12:30-13:30 Where: Embassy of Brazil in Wellingtona ...
Rt Hon Trevor Mallard, Speaker of the New Zealand House of Representatives, welcomes the visit of His Excellency Eduardo Ferro Rodrigues, President of the Assembly of the Republic of Portugal. ...
A cross political Mental Health and Addictions Wellbeing group will be launched on Wednesday 28 August hosted by Sir John Kirwan and Moe Milne (ONZM) who have both been at the forefront of our country’s often difficult conversations about mental ...
Confirmation that the government will be progressing an independent Parliamentary Budget Office is great news for democracy and transparency, Federated Farmers says. ...
At first glance, Simon Bridges’ strident opposition to the government’s proposal to establish an independent office to cost political parties’ election spending plans looks childish and petty. ...
Euthanasia-Free NZ is appalled that Parliament spent so little time debating Part 2 of the End of Life Choice Bill and voted to leave it full of holes. ...
Jordan Williams, a spokesman for the Auckland Ratepayers’ Alliance and its nationwide sister group the New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union is slamming Auckland Mayor Phil Goff for his comments today that John Tamihere would need the Government’s support to ...
A ‘one size fits all’, inflexible and punitive regulatory regime for water quality just gets backs - and costs - up and most importantly will not work, Federated Farmers says. ...
Mediation yesterday between secondary principals and the government has resulted in a deal that the principals' negotiating team is recommending to its members. ...
Clubs New Zealand welcomes the decision of Justice Minister Andrew Little to put forward a bill amending the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act to allow all licensed premises to remain open for Rugby World Cup matches. ...
The Australia and New Zealand Ministerial Forum on Food Regulation has ordered a review looking at labelling of added sugars in food and drinks. An option under investigation is ‘a pictorial approach applied to sugary beverages / sugar-sweetened beverages’ ...
Labour market data released by Statistics New Zealand today indicates that a gender pay gap persists in New Zealand, despite improvement in some areas. ...
In the midst of the 6th Great Extinction Event the coalition, STOP Trashing Our Planet is urging voters to take full responsibility for the legacy we are leaving our children. ...
LGNZ will carefully consider the proposed National Policy Statement on Urban Development (NPS-UD) to assess if it meets the Government’s aim of enabling urban development or simply adds more red tape to the planning process. ...
Statistics out today from the Government show that the gender wage imbalance, or gap, in the average wage is 11.9%, a strong 2 percentage point improvement from 13.9% last year. The gender pay imbalance in the median wage is 9.3%. ...
Newstalk ZB Drive host and Herald on Sunday columnist Heather du Plessis-Allan is taking on the challenge of keeping 2019 Auckland Mayoral contenders Phil Goff and John Tamihere in line and on point in tonight’s live NZ Herald Newstalk ZB debate. ...
After twenty years Napier residents have endured heavy sleep and health disruptive noise and air pollution from freight trucks gridlock operations to and from the Napier port and other regions. ...
The EMA says much is riding on the board and chief executive of the new National Infrastructure Commission (NIC) announced by Infrastructure Minister Hon Shane Jones today, with a difficult task ahead to deliver on its purpose. ...
Combatting internet-related harm is being stymied by inter-industry disagreement and a lack of information about the extent and nature of the problem, a new report says. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tim Harcourt, J.W. Nevile Fellow in Economics and host of The Airport Economist, UNSW Amid the tributes to former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer and the stories of his authenticity, courage and quirky interests – like trains and military history – what ...
Current leader of the National Party, Simon Bridges.Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards – Is Simon Bridges really trying to channel Donald Trump? Or is he taking his cue from Scott Morrison? Or is he looking to emulate Boris Johnson? Whatever the inspiration, there’s been a clear change in the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra [embedded content]Michelle Grattan talks about the sad news of the passing of former Deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer with University of Canberra Vice-Chancellor Professor Deep Saini. They also discuss Scott Morrison’s recent announcement about joining ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Gabriel Crowley, Adjunct Principal Research Fellow, James Cook University In February, about 600,000 cattle were killed by catastrophic flooding across north Queensland’s Carpentaria Gulf plains. The flood waters rose suddenly, forming a wall of water up to 70km wide. Record depths were ...
Simon Day dined alone at Monique Fiso’s Wellington restaurant Hiakai, and discovered it was the perfect way to appreciate the meaning of this special food. “Would you like a few more minutes with your phone?” the waitress at Hiakai asked sympathetically as I mashed a final goodbye text to my wife ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Emma Willamson, Adjunct Senior Research Fellow, Monash University Australia’s gender pay gap is diminishing, says a new report, but some contributors to it seem harder to overcome than others. For me, the finding hit close to home. The report, by KPMG for ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Te Tiriti o Waitangi: The Treaty of Waitangi by Toby Morris with Ross Calman, Mark Derby, and ...
Honey producer Comvita has confirmed a full year net loss of $27.7m with China market access restrictions and tougher regulations locally affecting the company's sales. ...
James Elliott realises John Tamihere's uncosted bridge proposal wasn't actually a metaphor, but a fine example of 'folks is mighty generous with money what they ain’t got'. ...
A new poem by Oamaru-born poet Nick Ascroft.SupermanHalfway up the ascent zigzagging from Royal Terrace to upper Stuart Street carrying four too-heavy grocery bags I begin to understand that I will not make it. My huffing personage – from the fingers, white with the strain, to a face the colour of rhubarb – will ooze into the pavement and roll slowly ...
The Real Pod assembles to dissect the week in reality television and real life, with special thanks to Nando’s.Sound the alarm, because it’s time for another absolute chaos pod. We’re talking haunted dolls in Waipu, we’re talking giant hands taking over Wellington, we’re talking soft serve cones dipped in powdered Milo. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tony Press, Adjunct Professor, Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies, University of Tasmania This week, the ABC revealed that the Australian Defence Force wants to roll out military technology in Antarctica. The article raises the issue of what is, or is not, ...
New Zealand teacher aides say their pay reflects an outdated idea of what they do. Elizabeth McLeod hears from four TAs, and one parent, about the classroom realities they face every dayCleaning up poo, defusing violent situations, copping physical and verbal abuse: these are the realities of a teacher aide’s ...
The lanky sidekick from Jono and Ben journeys around New Zealand trying to solve small town problems. Does he succeed?Guy Williams, hardly a shy, retiring type, has been screaming out for his own vehicle for years. A loud, lanky, fearless comic, he’s spent nearly a decade in MediaWorks purgatory, sat ...
Ballot Box.Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards – The nature of New Zealand general election campaigns could be significantly changed with the proposed establishment of an “umpire” to adjudicate over political party manifesto policies. A suggestion has been put forward by the Government for the establishment of a parliamentary watchdog ...
Editor’s Note: Here below is a list of the main issues currently under discussion in New Zealand and links to media coverage.New Zealand Parliament Buildings, Wellington, New Zealand.Today’s content by Dr Bryce Edwards.Ihumātao Delphine Herbert and Dan Satherley (Newshub): Tainui to buy Ihumātao land – sources Danielle ...
Extinction Rebellion takes a tour of downtown Wellington to point out the coal industry stalwarts and ask why they’re still there in the face of a climate emergency. “There are coal companies in Wellington??”That’s the incredulous response every single time we mention taking the public on a tour of the biggest ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rachel A. Ankeny, Professor of History and Philosophy, and Deputy Dean Research (Faculty of Arts), University of Adelaide The South Australian government recently announced its intention to lift the long-standing statewide moratorium on genetically modified (GM) crops, following a statutory six-week consultation ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Vicki Sentas, Senior Lecturer, UNSW Law, UNSW Being strip searched by the police can be intrusive, humiliating and harmful. Typically, strip searches involve being required to strip naked in front of police officers, who often give the direction to “squat and cough”, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Louise Remond, Clinical Psychologist, University of Technology Sydney Hi, I was just wondering if something’s wrong with me because I’m never happy and never want to do anything and I’m getting really lazy and I really hate school. Thanks – Anonymous ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Luke Zaphir, Researcher for the University of Queensland Critical Thinking Project; and Online Teacher at Education Queensland’s IMPACT Centre, The University of Queensland From as early as Grade 3 teachers start teaching children how to put across their own points of view. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Richard Holden, Professor of Economics, UNSW It’s four years since then Prime Minister Tony Abbott warned Australia had been heading to “a Greek-style economic future”. He was referring to what he said had been happening under the previous Labor government. When Labor ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Samia Khatun, Senior Lecturer, SOAS, University of London Some 1,000 kilometres inland from Sydney, over the Blue Mountains, past the trees that drink the tributaries of the Darling River, there stands a little, red mosque. It marks where the desert begins. The ...
Online gambling is growing fast in New Zealand, but critics say new government ideas for regulating websites focus on what's good for the industry, rather than protecting people from harm. ...
An "extreme pro-Beijing" writer has caused controversy in the Chinese community and awkwardness for the Labour Party by standing for political office in Auckland. ...
Good morning, and welcome to The Bulletin. In today’s edition: Concern about slow progress for major transport projects, smoking researcher under pressure over funding, and hikoi marches from Ihumātao to Ardern’s office.NZTA is struggling to get spending out the door, so the money isn’t flowing through the economy, reports Thomas Coughlan ...
Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard will look at whether people making submissions on proposed law changes should be forced to disclose conflicts of interest. ...
Rugby and league legend Honey Hireme has put all her careers on hold - including her Warriors debut - to take care of her mum, who has terminal cancer. ...
In the ongoing battle to prevent 480 houses being built on ancestral land, a petition with more than 26,000 signatures was delivered to the Prime Minister’s Mt Albert office yesterday. Leonie Hayden was there.Lead by the inimitable Pania Newton, about 100 kaitiaki set off from Ihumātao near Māngere yesterday morning ...
Every scholarship exam and approximately every two external assessments are wrapped in their own single-use plastic bag. We’re asking the NZQA to cut it out, writes year-13 student Sophia HoneyEvery year after an exam, I see the same conversation happen. Friends turn to each other, talk about how difficult that ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Even Scott Morrison, with his abundant self-belief, couldn’t have imagined that on Saturday’s first anniversary of his seizing the prime ministership, he’d be winging his way to France for a G7 meeting, where Australia has ...
A group of students, including some Youth MPs, have been banned from Parliament for a year, after singing a waiata in the public gallery in support of the Ihumātao hīkoi. ...
National MP Nick Smith has lodged a serious accusation against Parliament's Speaker calling him "biased" after once again being booted out of the debating chamber. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sunanda Creagh, Head of Digital Storytelling Last weekend, hundreds of thousands of people again took to the streets in Hong Kong to protest against the government – the 11th straight weekend of demonstrations that began in June over a proposed extradition bill. ...
Daily review 14/05/2019 
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Several explosions have been reported across Auckland, as well-meaning environmentalists have already begun purchasing too much petrol Starting from next week, customers will no longer need a car to purchase petrol directly from the pump, a development that two major fuel providers are billing as an opportunity to help fight ...20 hours ago
A new study claims to find that a mother’s exposure to fluoridated water during pregnancy may decrease the IQ of male children – but is it correct? (Photo: Getty Images) Anti-fluoride campaigners are promoting ... 22 hours ago
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by Jan Rivers More than 30 years ago a Commission of Inquiry was held in New Zealand to investigate, amongst other things, whether women with cervical cancer were aware that they had been part of a research project and whether they were properly informed of the treatment options ...3 days ago
Everyone Wants To Be Fuhrer: When fascist groups are discussed, the image conjured-up in the minds of most New Zealanders is one of pathetic misfits. This negative impression is reinforced by the latter’s idiotic embrace of the swastika. Even in the second decade of the twenty-first century, the baleful legacy ...3 days ago
In the previous two posts, I laid out the context and set the theoretical framework to answer a question: whether indigenous economies should take the LEAP. This final part outlines ways to conceive of practicing mana motuhake within the existing legal system by carving out special jurisdictions that enable Indigenous ...5 days ago
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Today, on TS.
Hi Joe, alright, I will bite, please elucidate.
Were you discombobulated by something on TS?
Was it a day that comments or input were particularly challenging?
Or is it a merely a word to increase our vocabulary?
The pro-plague dog and pony show on OM.
Still name calling eh J90. You've said in comments that you're unhealthy. No need to wish to drag others down to your level.
Vaccines, shed virus, maim and kill. That science is settled.
If you read some of the links you could, if so inclined find a way to move on from the name calling, and just accept that you are unhealthy, and others are not responsible for yours, or any other human beings health.
You should watch this Joe. Not throw insults and sulk.
14m mark quote:
That vaccine is actually killing children…it’s not just sort of a differential effect…it’s killing children …it’s not because it saves boys…the vaccine is killing children…
Vaccines, shed virus, maim and kill. That science is settled.
Do you have any links to this 'settled science'?
*yawn*
What bored you?
Was it the hundreds of thousands of children killed per year by vaccines in the African countries used for experiments
Africans, many more female than males…killed by vaccines…millions of them…
Does that bore you?
Why?
[Citations needed]
Cite?
I've linked 1.1.1.1 you the video…hundred of thousands of children…annually.
Ahhh.
One persons pro plague is anothers scare mongering up profits to big pharma.
I think it was on RNZ this morning, we were urged to get the flu jab.
On the upside my vocab has increased with conglumrified.
I've never had a flu jab and never really had cause to get one.
I think I have only really had the flu twice in my 38 years. I know it can only be twice because when you have you KNOW you have it
Heh, from the talk this morning you would think it was as common as a common thing.
This is where resistance for the mass medication arguements arises for me.
Talk of denying children early education unless they are immunised is the thin edge of a dispicable wedge.
I got looking and talking about measles in Aotearoa. In the area I live in (Mid Central Health), there hasn't been a hospitilization from measles this year.
yup, that's the problem we face. Tigers aren't scary if nobody's really seen one.
If our expensive scare-tiger is really good at keeping tigers away, people forget how bad tigers are and stop maintaining the scare-tiger. But then the tigers come back.
HPH is not a source I would be ever cite…a so called medical professional who links to Gorski, and writes in a style completely out of the Gorski name calling training manual.
Highly inappropriate for a so called medical professional…
HPH has also be accused of misconduct in an open letter to the WHO.
lol coming from you, that's a compliment.
In the many years since a childhood pertussis infection one of my brothers has endured respiratory problems, chest infections, pleurisy, pneumonia, courtesy of his chronic bronchiectasis. Influenza might well be the biggest threat to his life and every year I worry that this might be the winter.
I'm grateful he has the opportunity to be vaccinated.
That does sound a grim history for your brother.
It is good he can get a flu jab.
How many sad stories have you got to share about your family joe?
Stories that apparently empower you to use bigoted insults towards others who have been damaged or killed by vaccines…or who just wish to exercise their right to bodily autonomy and to say no…or their parental right to say no for their children…
I'm grateful he has the opportunity to be vaccinated.
And that is well and good. Just leave it there when other people make a choice not to vaccinate themselves or their children…especially after a vaccine injury or death to their loved one...
You should extend concern for your bothers well being …outwards in a more positive way…eh Joe.
For many families polio and pertussis were life changing events.
But don't let that get in the way of your supercilious dog wanking
Sure. and of so it is for all the mothers and parents of vaccine damaged and dead kids…
Why should your experiences enable you to be so callous towards others..
Because pro-plague scum are a threat to the public health measures that put an end to most communicable diseases.
But it has been proven , that they are not..
Why are you still pushing that total nonsense around?
Do you have developmental issues you might like to also share – that is an honest question?
Because we know polio and pertussis deaths actually do happen by the hundreds of thousands if left unchecked. Not your imaginary numbers.
490,000 Indians damaged by the polio vaccine though…in only one single part of one country…
How many…where are the numbers you're referring to?
You are so under informed…what is that prevents being able admit it, and just quietly step out of the discussion?
You did say millions of African children per year.
How many children die in Africa each year?
Have fun looking that up. I'm amazed big pharma has gotten away with it for so long.
Bit late for you is it…
Have a look at what I wrote and the link I posted to joe..
Death of any variety is not fun..
Whats with your commentary and calling events like death and vaccine damage fun..?
You are an apologist…worse than that you're an uninformed apologist…
Which means you don't care at all about the discussion you're involved with and you're engaging in bad faith.
God – you sound like Ed.
How many hundred thousand? Because depending on the age definition of "children", you're still claiming about 1% (at a lower bound) of Africa's child mortality is due to experimentation of vaccines.
Which is a not-very-credible claim.
I’m off to bed.
You've just thrown hundreds of thousands, and then millions of African kids under the hypocrisy bus, and try to smear joe90 with your own budget brand 'special' sauce.
Hypocrite 🙄
At rough math, one-two seems to be claiming that a double-digit percentage of all child deaths in Africa are caused by vaccine experimentation.
Which is a pretty bold claim.
@ joe. That is where your credibility just falls over.
You have your stories of your family and then put your repeated dog wanking epiphet after it, then its hard to have any empathy for you, let alone your arguement for vacination.
Surely, at least a canine is satisfied.
It's appropriate when responding to a self-absorbed cretin.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dog%20wanker
Yep, just undermining your position.
you put the urban dictionary reference in last time, I didn’t look then either.
Anyhoo, off to bed.
One shouldn’t under estimate the benefits of sleep.
Nighty nite.
hey one two you're coming across like a cartoon badguy – slimey insincerity and caustic vibe off your every comment – is that what you want? not cool dude.
Fucken do that count to 10 (TEN) like I taught you – it WILL work. Come on you can do it just fucken try.
Nah bro…you're just looking for things which aren't there…why are you still trying to do that…
Have you not abused my comments enough in recent times…now your trying to paint yourself as something you most definitely are not…
You should really stop pretending to be able to read comments…and start asking your angry mates to stop hurling abusive insults….instead of popping up on mine…again…
Jail jokes, are definitely not cool…bro.
Edit. I see you edited that comment…back to the bad language…and projected anger …again….
two bros eh one two, two? and somehow you're racism is okay? hard habit to break but your anger is destructive – it is NOT okay to be racist at any time one two anytime at all – ffs count to ten one two don't do it cos I say do it no do it for yourself one two do it for yourself lad
Edit. I see you edited that comment…back to the bad language…and projected anger …again….
Why are you so desperate to project you anger issues into others?
Deliberately two bros…I call many people bro…they come from all around the world…and are all ethnic backgrounds…including tanagata whenua, pacifika, african american and many others…
It is very ugly for you to repeatedly cry racism at any opportunity…to other commentators here…
Speaks to who you are as a human being…
Why are you so desperate to project you anger issues into others?
You used the term 'bro' as a weapon against me, knowing I'm Māori . You're too weak to own up to your own weakness – bit of a dilemma eh noddy lol – don't worry I've dealt to dogshit racists for years and I don't forget that stuff mores the pity lol
You're like the boy who cried wolf…
I know you're angry amd abusive through your comments…that's what I know…
And you're absolutely trying to bring non racism into your life…again..I suspect you're probably a racist..you push so hard and are so desperate…
As I said..you don't have a copyright on being a bro…so climb down from the soapbox and stop being such a mind slave..
I do not care one iota what ethnicity you identify as…that is your business…
And Ill use the word bro as and when I choose…
I also believe it to be a form of targeted racism. I can't say I recall 12 calling anyone else on here bro, though of course, they are free to link and prove me incorrect.
Bro you believe whatever you like…
Trying to get in on martys intrepid search for racism..
Takes a disturbed mind to have a default mode which endlessly desires racism to feel self righteous…
Lower than that is the mind of someone who seeks to bandwagon as an uninvolved 3rd party…
Even lower again…the uninvolved band-wagoning 3rd party who is grandstanding …for some reason…that's you…bro.
I can see why you're fighting so hard against the accusation, but it looks like you have no defence, here.
In your attempt to bait and attack MM, you let your racist cat out of the bag. I, like many others, think that bag should have long been tossed into a canal.
Shame on you, 12.
Nope. Just pointing out your 3rd party band wagon rasism grandstanding…
All very low rent..you try to be clever…overly so…it reeks through your confused commentary…
Which condition did you say it was..spectrum?
First it's racism, now you're weaponising autism.
Good job in completely destroying any remaining credibility, and all within half an hour.
Yep, you’re really as sharp as you believe 😆
I like to be sure those I engage with are doing so in good faith…
Also I observe the type of engagement to see if the subject matter could be harmful to the receiver…if I get an indication then I'll stop replying…
You're an interesting case.. having not changed styles since before you disappeared…
Your style is all over the place in an inarticulat, almost manic manner…hence the question..
Marty is an angry abusive with a long history of crying racism at any moment…
You seen similar, in that you're bouncing around trying to find shelter of a sort..comfort in something…Which is why your grandstanding marty bandwagon show is so obvious…
Takes a disturbed mind to provide an echo on a someone else's fake racism callouts..
A disturbed mind…
That doesn't cut the mustard.
You've been caught red handed being racist and belittling autism.
For one who argues against vaccinations partly because they, according to you cause spectrum disorders, shows exactly where your head is in the game.
You're as genuine as a $10 rolex.
Best you take your vegan dog out to shit on your unmowed lawns before heading off to bed to sleep it off.
You never could best me in a debate. No need to think you can now, especially when you're bang to rights.
You're only saving grace is this is very late and tomorrow everyone will move on to the next days bullshit-a-go-round, but we'll always know, won't we, eh? 😉
😆
Just did.
but wees poo, you didn’t beat anyone.
i followed you original link. The one you posted way up above. It’s a boring narrative from an anthropologist. Not someone who should be the sole authority on whether vaccines cause harm. Despite his claims of meeting a guy who supports his observations.
There weren’t “hundreds and thousands” of deaths claimed either? So wees poos, how did that verifiably bullshit claim climb to millions? Extrapolating conclusions from an incomplete and / or unverifiable data set is the cardinal sin of statistics and refutes all arguments made off of it.
So what do you make of joes last missive marty?
good stuff – one two is a poorly constructed yet well executed parody of an utter wanker.
rightio then.
FWIW I have found the links from 1 2 a little more enlightening than what the nay-sayers have offered.
bedtime for me.
te po pai.
"I think it was on RNZ this morning, we were urged to get the flu jab."
Oh, is that what prompted the circus.
You can do better than that Sacha…it was higherstandard that pulled the pin…/open-mike-14-05-2019/#comment-1616524
Busy day. I generally react poorly to stuff that is conveyed with conspiracy language and tactics, even though as you know I am not blind to the weaknesses of current knowledge and systems.
Sort yourself out then and stop making excuses. I said that to you just the other day…
You could always stop sounding like burning jet fuel and behaving like a sealion.
Not me sacha, I had just checked out the furore after (now regrettably) engaging with joe.
One thing I notice through these diatribes is no-one has negated Rosemary's observation of the placenta/breast feeding observation regarding pertussis.
Lots of nasty name calling though.
Bit harsh to give women pertussis to immunise any prospective issue, though.
No idea about how true it is (especially the "naturally" bit). It just seems to me that the implementation of that treatment might be problematic.
Rosemary’s posting (on today’s OM @22.3) of Prof. Christine Stabell Benn’s TEDx talk on the unrecognised effects of attenuated live vaccines was a real eye opener for me.
Interesting to investigate the epidemiology of online vax 'debates' and how they mutate/degenerate into slagging matches. Might be a thesis in it
https://soundideas.pugetsound.edu/summer_research/309/
https://carolinaseveriche.me/misinformation-the-anti-vax-movement-and-health-outcomes/
The Anti-vaccination Movement: A Regression in Modern Medicine
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122668/
Perhaps instead of using pejorative smears and linking to a study which could be viewed as <em>inflammatory…</em>
Perhaps invest some online time into researching the tactics which the vaccine industry and regulators/authorities/academia (also the industry) perform to distort the entirity of a discussion…
In fact the spin put on it since Jenner is nothing short of transparent…
The emperor has no cloths.
Do better than using insulting tropes Drowsy…you're better than that…I reckon…
Did you view Prof./Dr Benn's TEDx talk that Rosemary posted?
Prof. Benn says that the medical establishment are largely ignoring (inconvenient) findings on the unrecognised/unexpected (non-specific) effects (both beneficial and harmful) of vaccines. She thinks that "the main reason for this is the polarised vaccine debate."
She also says this (a direct quote from her TEDx talk, @13:30):
"This makes vaccines the largest untapped resource for improving health globally."
That’s a clear message. Please, don't shoot the messenger.
I posted on Badim months ago, Drowsy…
But I'm talking about your final link and use of the smear AV…
Politely suggest you leave use of that label to the less capable of mind around here..
You don't need to lower yourself to that level…
I admire the passion and energy with which you present your cause, but think your views are wrong.
I respectfully ask that you address this direct quote (@13:30):
"This makes vaccines the largest untapped resource for improving health globally."
If you choose to dismiss Prof. Benn's research because of that quote, then (IMHO) that is your loss, much as it is the loss of the medical establishment.
Antivax is great until the chickens come home to roost…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10860122
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/09/well/oregon-child-tetanus-vaccine.html
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jan/10/the-forgotten-story-of-di-jones-footballers-died-tetanus
Nat leaders https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/politics/is-judith-collins-the-answer-for-national-party-simon-bridges/
As much as I'd prefer Collins as Leader over Bridges, the die is set, Bridges is leading National into 2020.
If Bridges is rolled this side of the election it will be like Labour 2008 -2017, his supporters will undermine Collins or whoever becomes the leader and guarantee an electoral loss and the policial death of whoever replaced him.
National will lose with Bridges in charge that's pretty much a certainty unless Bridges stands aside voluntarily, which is hardly likely, it makes little sense for Collins to overthrow Bridges and assume the leadership.
Unless Ardern does something incredibly stupid like threatening to ban facebook then 2020 is in the bag.
Sounds like lose lose for the Nats, so all good.
Edit. I didn’t read your last line when i typed above.
Damn near any polly that stood on an agenda of banning FB would get my vote.
After all isnt society better off without a company that facilitates a live stream of a mass murder?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/jacinda-ardern-won-t-rule-out-blocking-facebook-if-used-to-spread-extremist-content.html
There you go
Chur.
Bit of a vote winner you reckon?
As I say below, I am in minority in not being part of FB.
FWIW, FB is just one of those clear signposts, when viewed in retrospect, of the decline of our society.
I am yet to speak to anyone (and I have asked quite a few), that have changed their FB usage/habits, post Chch.
Yet again, it ain't FB that is wrong, it's us- the enablers.
BM do you have any issues with FB live streaming mass murder?
If the question is 'what's even worse?'
TFW you think the kid's are okay and then realise some of those kids are the target audience for shit like this, and they're lapping it up.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/youtubes-newest-far-right-foul-mouthed-red-pilling-star-is
Foul mouthx, foul minez.
Richard Harman discusses Winston's attempt to win farmer support: http://politik.co.nz/en/content/Environment/1561/Peters-trying-to-avoid-being-stranded-on-climate-change-Winston-Peters-NZ-First-Zero-Carbon-Bill-methane-targets.htm
"Peters may find he doesn’t get much a reception from dairy farmers on that unless he can deliver on the growing demand for a debate on the use of genetically edited ryegrass which has been developed by AgResearch but which cannot be planted outside the laboratory in New Zealand because of anti-genetic modification legislation."
"The Prime Minister’s former Chief Science Advisor, Sir Peter Gluckman, has called for a debate on this and has said he doubts agriculture will be economically viable if it is to meet the methane targets with access to genetically edited grass. But when the Prime Minister was asked last week whether there was a case to admit the use of the ryegrass she didn’t directly address the question."
I guess that's due to her science advisor not yet having briefed her on the issue. I suspect she may since have requested that briefing!!
The Green caucus will be thrilled at the prospect of having to munch on a genetically-modified dead rat. Or maybe they will draw the line over it. If so, how can they do so without triggering an early election? Genuine question. I hope they reject the fundamentalist GE stance. Farmers need incentives to play ball.
Another sparklingly clever technology from the field of science will save us all, Dennis?
I am curious, is FB the only forum, cyber wise, for a community to organise around?
I have not and will not have a bar of Zuckerburgs dalliance, but it is clear I am in a small minority.
TS is great in that a conversation can be had, there is no advertising and tolerance of dickheads isn't too great.
I am also aware that this just doesn't 'happen'. There is a lot of work in moderation, authors and the computer jiggery pokery.
What other mediums are there?
I have not and will not have a bar of Zuckerburgs dalliance, but it is clear I am in a small minority.
I'm part of that minority. Might be more of us than you realise. The problem is, they're making life difficult for us FB abstainers because just about every cyber outlet is going FB these days and leaving us behind.
"You don't miss what you never had." – I for one am quite happy to be left behind (and ‘alone’), thank-you very much!
Who needs Facebook when you’ve got ‘The Standard‘. [No thunderbolt as yet.]
Hmm, not sure if this is the place to enthuse about low and slow smoking/bbq… unless it was limited to free range mushrooms.
Not making the connection, but it's late & I'm dim(mer). Ah, I see (thanks Google!)
My ‘thunderbolt’ reference was to a hypothetical Zuckerbolt – should have said.
Avoiding upsetting vegans/vegetarians, (he said quietly, as he was supposed to be going to sleep).
Yes facebook is being adopted as the default for quick contact. It feels like early days when Microsoft ruled the waves, and government bought into it wholesale.
@ Anne (5.1) … Particularly agree with your final paragraph.
I'm a non FB user as well and I know plenty more non users of the medium. I value my privacy too much to feel the need to share my personal details with all and sundry.
I enjoy keeping up to date with alternative news sites, such as TS TDB and the like. Much more informative. Personally I'd rather be informed than influenced.
@ mary_a
I'm not au fait with the workings of FB, but it seems to me that it would be reasonably easy to break into a site and harass a person for political or personal reasons. Having had the misfortune to be targeted in such a way more than once, I'm not going to put myself in a position where somebody can do it to me again.
Sensible move Anne.
Survey on disabled housing – Auckland… Have you seen this Rosemary. It might be good to get your oar in. And anyone with disabled access, issues.
Auckland Disability Law
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/05/14/research-opportunity-share-your-housing-experiences-auckland-disability-law/
We'll have a look tomorrow, maybe even participate in a survey. Jaded folk that we are…pretty sure these questions have been asked in years past, and still it is not mandatory to future proof all state/social housing. We have finally cleared away twenty years of grot and got our accessible family home ready to be sold. Scouted around a number of agents and settled on the one who wasn't shy about putting 'wheelchair access' in the marketing blurbs. You'd be surprised how many agents think having an accessible house is a turn off to buyers. Luckily we have the Bus to live in if the house sells, as there's bugger all in the way of accessible housing out there!
Rosemary and partner – you are bold adventurers. Hope the sale brings in good money. I hope you will be able to park the bus in places where you find compatible people that will be good friends.
We're not selling the house to make good money…we're selling it because it is too big now the kids have grown and flown and we simply can't afford to keep it.
We will park the Bus in places where we can meet people who won't call me a lying nutter.
Ooh cool, take it sweet Rosemary. Get away from those people they are hurting you. Let us know how you get on and what good things have happened lately, we mustn't let the negative settle on us.
Bloody nora, trump and co go from crazy to utterly nuts.