Daily Review 21/10/2015

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33 comments on “Daily Review 21/10/2015”

  1. mickysavage 1

    So Annette King stays as deputy. I understand that everyone is pleased with the job she is doing in keeping caucus unified. Congratulations to her.

    • Grindlebottom 1.1

      Yep. Agreed.

    • Lanthanide 1.2

      Her saying she didn’t want the job is confusing, when she ran a double-ticket with Grant Robertson as his deputy.

      • Ovid 1.2.1

        Not really. When she ran it was an open position. It’s clear she doesn’t want to betray a valued mentor or upset the applecart. Both valid reasons.

    • whateva next? 1.3

      great news, not falling for the usual RW “journo’s bait, and celebrating Annette’s vast experience and amazing stamina

    • Ovid 1.4

      She’s done really well over the past year. There is a strong correlation between age and whether or not a person votes. So having people like Annette in Parliament in senior positions representing older voters is important if we are to expect our politics to reflect society at large.

    • Ffloyd 1.5

      Fan -bleeding- tastic. King is great. Takes no prisoners.

  2. Grindlebottom 2

    I’m no fan of Heather Du-Plessis Allan but if the police charge her for this they’ve lost the plot.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/73258692/illegal-gun-purchase-prompts-auckland-police-investigation-of-tv3-reporter

    • tc 2.1

      They lost the plot at the teapot tapes and continued the rich vein of form with roast busters and slater/eade not being charged so nothing surprises me with what passes for a police force these days.

    • Thinking Right 2.2

      I don’t know. Impersonating a Police Officer and signing as such is pretty serious.

      Also using someone else’s firearms licence and using a fake name just adds to the offence.

      There is Public Interest and there is just plain dumb – I suggest what she did was the latter.

      • Grindlebottom 2.2.1

        This Herald article (I actually read this one before posting the stuff article link) says

        …She then outlined the process she went through. “I used a fake name. I used a fake gun licence.” She said she filled it out and sent it in.

        According to the police

        “To obtain a firearm online, the buyer must provide the seller with a written order countersigned by Police proving that they have a current firearms license. This is to satisfy dealers that the person is an appropriately licensed user,” the police press release said.

        It sounds like Story are showing she was able to buy a rifle online without one.

        • weka 2.2.1.1

          They faked that too (according to the seller). So either the system doesn’t require sellers to confirm the ID of the police officer, or the seller in this case didn’t do it.

      • Anne 2.2.2

        Thinking Right is thinking wrong. I’m not much into Garner and Du-Plessis Allan either but that was some smart detective work.

        Btw, Thinking Right, the police have not been shy about planting under-cover cops into criminal groups (eg, illegal drug smugglers) who actually commit offences during the course of their work – all in the cause of justice. What’s the difference.

      • Rosie 2.2.3

        “There is Public Interest and there is just plain dumb – I suggest what she did was the latter.”

        The producer of the show would have given the go ahead for the story surely. If that’s the case they then also need to take responsibility for doing something they may have thought was in the public interest, but wasn’t in fact, a well thought out way of investigating the availability of firearms to NZer’s.

    • Grindlebottom 2.3

      Whoops. This makes things a bit more tricky for Heather I think….

      Guncity’s owner pledges to prosecute journalist Heather du Plessis-Allan after she bought a rifle without a licence: (Interesting choice to put the item in their “entertainment” section.)
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11532873

      • Draco T Bastard 2.3.1

        Something tells me that Public Interest comes in to play and that the person who will be found a criminal is the owner(s) of Gun City for a) Supplying an unlicensed person with a gun and b) not doing the necessary checks to ensure that they were selling to gun license holders.

        • Grindlebottom 2.3.1.1

          Sounds to me like du Plessis-Allen did actually fake details of a police officer and sent a fraudulent gun order form to Guncity:

          She said the police had changed the mail order system so online gun order forms were now left at the police station for officers to authorise and then send.

          The previous system had seen the prospective buyer send in the form, which had allowed the details of a fake police officer to be used where the authorising officer should have been.

          I bet the system never required the gunshop owner to check the police officer’s details with police. If so, Guncity may have done all they were legally required to do. She submitted a fraudulent document, and the owner might then have a case. Time will tell I guess.

          • Draco T Bastard 2.3.1.1.1

            Sounds to me like du Plessis-Allen did actually fake details of a police officer and sent a fraudulent gun order form to Guncity:

            Yes, but in doing so she has the defence of Public Interest, i.e, the public are better off her doing this and telling everyone about it than her not doing it.

            She submitted a fraudulent document, and the owner might then have a case.

            He doesn’t because of the Public Interest.

      • dukeofurl 2.3.2

        Means nothing.

        Its difficult to get all the legal proof without the resources of the police.

        And then there is ‘discharge without conviction’, which will defeat his aim of giving her a criminal conviction.

        In a way hes countering TV3 ‘stunt’ with a stunt of his own.

  3. Gabby 3

    The big difference is that they get to excuse – I mean fairly investigate – themselves.

  4. Rosie 4

    Sorry. Not many will be interested in the sleepy little back water that is the Ohariu electorate, especially outside of election year, BUT, I do feel it in my waters that Peter Dunne will be stepping down down in 2017 and literally handing the electorate to the Nat candidate who stood in 2014, Brett Hudson.

    Everyone I have spoken to within the electorate and outside of it believe that Dunne will just keep going. I think Dunne is simply keeping the seat warm for Hudson.

    Locals will have had the displeasure of meeting him at last years candidates meeting. A nasty little piece of work, who wasn’t capable of gauging the conciliatory and friendly mood of evening, who jumped straight into attacking the opposition in a very rude manner. Who also showed his stunning political ignorance on BackBenchers, a few shows ago too. Who is a a former software rep who got in in on the list in 2014. Lives in another electorate but advertises that he is a “list MP based in the Ohariu electorate”, each week in our daggy local rag, whom he shares a floor with in the same building. I could go on with his track record…………….

    What does it look like when the elected MP, who, In August says he will find a youth MP for Ohariu:

    http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=81026

    doesn’t find that young un, and the list MP, who has nothing to do with the area apart from standing in 2014, instead selects a youth MP to represent the electorate?

    (who looks like his share portfolio might include Loreal and a lucrative modelling career in the pipeline).

    Who wear the boots in Ohariu? Dunne or Hudson?

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      Don’t be so sure that Hudson will be standing again in Ohariu. Katrina Shanks didn’t, after all.

      • Rosie 4.1.1

        Katrina Shanks ran for National 2005, 2008 and 2011 in Ohariu. Dunne’s majority has been shrinking in the last two elections and last year won by only 700 and something votes with the fabulous Labour candidate, Ginny Andersen putting a bit of a frightener up him.

        Did you see his face early on election night when he thought he might actually lose the seat? He was ashen. I don’t think he wants to put himself through that again. 33 years holding Ohariu might be enough for him – he might not want to do 36 years.

        Hudson is really putting his feet under the table around here. The example above of the selection of youth MP going to him, (when he’s not the elected MP and the selected person is Blue flavour) and not Dunne, when Dunne said he would pick one indicates that he’s muscling in Dunne’s turf. Or did he select Loreal boy with Dunne’s blessing?

        The selection of a youth MP is not a biggie but it’s not Hudson’s place to be doing it.

        I’m just trying to get across that maybe we shouldn’t continue thinking about Dunne and his influence in the same way as we have for so long.

    • Ergo Robertina 5.1

      And this earlier one is also worth reading –
      http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/three-things-you-need-to-know-about-pope-francis-and-the-cardinal-disgraced-in-a-sex-abuse-scandal/

      Francis gave prime position at Synod to abuse cover-up cardinal who, it is suggested, delivered him a swag of votes to become pope.

      ”Now the matter needs to be properly investigated. Pope Francis must explain why a man who tried to conceal sex abuse within a family is a leading participant in a synod discussing the pastoral care of families.
      ”So far, the media have shown no interest in this story. That wouldn’t be the case if Benedict XVI were still pope.”

      • dukeofurl 5.1.1

        Oh please. Its mostly a fact free farragio.

        Just because someones name is number 3 ! Its probably only because of his seniority, a procedural thing , and a quick check confirms this.

        • Ergo Robertina 5.1.1.1

          I think perhaps you haven’t read it properly.
          Or perhaps you simply don’t know that people can and do lose their ”seniority”, at least in any properly functioning organisation, if they are implicated in cover-ups and professional misconduct.

          • dukeofurl 5.1.1.1.1

            Perhaps, but I looked it up with the link you gave showing ‘the list’
            They are ranked from 1 to 178, with Cardinal Bishops ? first and Sodano number 1, Danneels is 14 and so on down the list.
            It means nothing when giving a list that some underling has followed centuries of bureaucracy rules. And of course the vatican isnt a normal place!
            Or the UN or any number of the worlds weird and wonderful organisations.
            A Cardinal is a job for life if you havent noticed and doesnt follow american management theories

            The Spectator is just a hardly read paper which specialises in high tory anglican nonsense.
            Like this from the top of googles stack
            “Or, in Corbyn’s case, a non-graduate. Corbyn got two Es at A-level at Adams’ Grammar School in Newport, Shropshire. He did a year of trade union studies at the North London Polytechnic before dropping out. Corbyn is the first Labour leader not to go to university since James Callaghan — and Callaghan only didn’t go because his family, unlike the prosperous Corbyns, couldn’t afford it.”

            • Ergo Robertina 5.1.1.1.1.1

              ”The Spectator is just a hardly read paper which specialises in high tory anglican nonsense.”

              What? The Spectator these days is if anything associated with blue blood Catholics. You do realise the author of that piece, Damian Thompson, is associate editor at the Spectator as well as editorial director of the Catholic Herald?
              And Charles Moore, former Spectator editor, now weekly diarist, whose neurotic and never-ending spat with the BBC and other morbid fixations kind of personify the mag’s spirit, is a Roman Catholic convert?

              • dukeofurl

                No one with that name is listed on their website as being ‘editorial director’
                Wikipedia says hes ‘Editor in Chief ( of CH)but the link ( 2009) only says he writes about classical music for the Catholic herald, no mention of Editor in Chief or as you say ” Editorial Director”
                The Spectator , however calls him an ‘associate editor’ on their masthead, its obvious hes a minor columnist, with no connection to the Catholic Herald.

                • Ergo Robertina

                  His twitter says this:

                  ”Associate Editor, The Spectator. Editorial Director, Catholic Herald. Once described as ‘A blood-crazed ferret’ by the Church Times.”
                  https://twitter.com/holysmoke?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

                  But I’m not interested in a tedious argument about Thompson’s employment status.
                  The point is that the Spectator has some high profile conservative Catholic writers.
                  You seem like someone who confabulates (Anglican, Tory, High Church) and then goes all pedantic and condescending when someone takes issue.
                  This is tiresome. I certainly wouldn’t think less of someone for giving no credence to the Spectator, but Thompson’s stuff reflects how this is playing out in at least one conservative corner.
                  You are free to read or not as you please, but do stop being a tendentious prat over it.

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    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
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  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
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  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
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  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
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  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
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    RedlineBy Admin
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  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
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  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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