Daily review 31/07/2020

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1. Sacha 1

   31 July 2020 at 5:39 pm

   Former DG of Public Health

   https://twitter.com/ColinTukuitonga/status/1288910775906516992
2. swordfish 2

   31 July 2020 at 5:42 pm

   My Mother's 90th birthday today.

   . https://thestandard.org.nz/daily-review-31072015/#comment-1053002 .

   . https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31-03-2020/#comment-1696713 .
   • Sacha 2.1

     31 July 2020 at 5:52 pm

     That's a grand innings. Cheers to her.
     • swordfish 2.1.1

       31 July 2020 at 5:56 pm

       Thanks Sacha … I'll pass on your good wishes to her.
       • greywarshark 2.1.1.1

         1 August 2020 at 11:27 am

         What an inspiring story swordfish. Reading about her efforts puts my family in stark contrast; we never did anything about society and world issues. But seeing where society is now it is obvious to me that a person has to individually put themselves out to help keep society be good for all. That takes an allocation of time – for thinking, for discussion with partner and children if there are any, for speaking up and not only criticising to authority but putting forward realistic alternatives.

         In short, what we need for our world now, what we must have, are people who inform themselves on facts and watch who has the actual facts and who the shoddy ones, and then joins in the participatory democracy. That we once had a relatively decent representative one but no more has not been allowed to reach significant parts of many people's brains.

         I think if we could show that was happening widely, your active and principled parents swordfish would think that was the best birthday present for your mother they could get, apart from better neighbours.
         • swordfish 2.1.1.1.1

           1 August 2020 at 2:35 pm

           Cheers, Grey. Great sentiments.
   • RedBaronCV 2.2

     31 July 2020 at 6:54 pm

     That's grand. Hope she has a great day.

     (PS I had the impression that you were a little younger than this indicates)
     • swordfish 2.2.1

       31 July 2020 at 10:02 pm

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       Cheers, RedB … I’ll pass on your best wishes …

       … on my alleged elderliness … I’m sure I don't know what you mean, I'm still remarkably young … barely out of short trousers … clinging on to 55 with my fingertips … 56 in a couple of weeks. Dame Time is a fickle Mistress … oh yeah, she’ll promise you the World when your 21, plenty of her to go around, … but just watch her evaporate into the ether once you hit 50.
       • RedBaronCV 2.2.1.1

         31 July 2020 at 11:13 pm

         Just a kid – you always sound very young – no further confessions needed.
3. Ad 3

   31 July 2020 at 6:04 pm

   For the record I am impressed with the justified outrage that the Attorney-General David Parker shows in relation to the Operation Burnham report released today:

   https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2007/S00322/operation-burnham-report-released.htm

   On Radio NZ this afternoon he also praised the authors of the book that brought it all to light, without whom NZDefence would have kept lying in unison to Ministers about it.

   And can I give a big Fuck Off And Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way out to Minister of Defence Ron Mark, who put out his own release three minutes after Parker's, stating that he had full confidence in all NZDF staff and management, and trot along boys nothing to see here:

   https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA2007/S00323/report-of-the-government-inquiry-into-operation-burnham.htm

   Mark is showing himself to be the kind of Minister where the red tide comes down over his eyes whenever his people have a public question over them.

   And while we are at it, the Wellington Police can go fuck themselves as well for turning Nicky Hager's place upside down and trawling through his bank accounts. I have zero doubt that the senior Wellington Police and the senior NZDF people have little chats about activist journalists and how to make them feel really, really uncomfortable if they try to take on our martial management.

   From the very hard hitting recommendations, if there are not resignations and restructures in the NZDF in the fresh government, something is deeply wrong.
   • Pat 3.1

     31 July 2020 at 6:32 pm

     Any comment on the absent minded Minister at the time?
     • Treetop 3.1.1

       31 July 2020 at 9:14 pm

       Yes on RNZ at 5pm. Brain fade and was told orally about suspected loss of life and remembered some years later.

       Not good enough and showed being incompetent.
   • Grafton Gully 3.2

     31 July 2020 at 6:55 pm

     Thirty five years of "apparent" passive aggression from another NZF no-hoper,

     "Mark is the first Minister of Defence in 30 years to have served full-time in the military, having joined the NZ Army from 1971 then leaving in 1985, apparently in frustration over postings keeping him from joining the NZSAS despite passing its gruelling selection course."

     https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11956076
   • RedBaronCV 3.3

     31 July 2020 at 6:58 pm

     I would still dearly love to know how much the police had to pay Nicky and who got sacked for thinking this was a good idea. It is after all public money that goes into these settlements and us taxpayers need accountability so why are they entitled to hide it.

     Like you I feel there are little groups and clusters that think they can do what they like without any fear of any personal downside whatsoever.
     • Anne 3.3.1

       31 July 2020 at 7:37 pm

       https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31-07-2020/#comment-1736433

       A long time ago but nothing has changed – until now.
       • Treetop 3.3.1.1

         31 July 2020 at 8:59 pm

         You were entitled to ask questions but the people who did this to you did not want to answer your questions.

         You were expected to figure it out that you do not ask questions and that you were expected to quietly forget what was done to you.

         The people who did this (set you up) think they are entitled to do this and it is sanctioned from some creepy bastard high up in a government department or in the police.

         The latest NZDF inquiry is a good example of how people who are responsible for being accountable piss on the public when the public questions their lies.

         These bastards can piss on their own feet and on each other. They also waste the tax payers money.

         The complainant and the public deserves better.
   • Anne 3.4

     31 July 2020 at 7:31 pm

     And while we are at it, the Wellington Police can go fuck themselves as well for turning Nicky Hager's place upside down and trawling through his bank accounts. I have zero doubt that the senior Wellington Police and the senior NZDF people have little chats about activist journalists and how to make them feel really, really uncomfortable……

     

     I like to think the culture has changed in the last little while. Time will tell.
4. Gabby 4

   31 July 2020 at 6:29 pm

   The former SAS bloke who didn't want to chat to the media must've gone all yeller in his dotage.
5. RedBaronCV 5

   31 July 2020 at 7:05 pm

   Now I've stopped laughing- good to see our older citizens still participating in life like they were 18- I think.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300070147/at-81-john-banks-price-has-been-busted-with-a-cannabis-crop-worth-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars
   • aj 5.1

     31 July 2020 at 7:59 pm

     “When you die, what do I think happens? Either you know nothing at all, like before you’re born, or it’s going to be f…… interesting.”

     Yes that's a good story – epitomises growing old disgracefully

     
     • Whispering KateSuch a great 5.1.1

       1 August 2020 at 2:28 pm

       Such a great story. How disgustingly disgraceful and wickedly wonderful. Many of us oldies have lived, at various times, wickedly disgraceful lives. Why not we only get one shot at it. Maybe my escapades didn't warrant jail time but I sure had fun while I was reckless and enjoying it.

       The only problem is its difficult trying to justify your behaviour when you are expecting your offspring to not be stupid like you once were. Old heads on young shoulders just doesn't cut it with them. Yes, its going to be f…….interesting!!
6. Grafton Gully 6

   31 July 2020 at 8:55 pm

   Harold Macmillan talks about Nationalism in a speech to to both Houses of Parliament of the Union of South Africa 03/02/60. Pertinent I think to current debates on Globalisation. From 11-30 in the recording.

   
   
   
7. PaddyOT 7

   31 July 2020 at 11:11 pm

   Powerful. Interesting that you see parallels. It's similar to Pompeo's recent speech. The utilising of a crisis of "the winds of change" as a means to invoke the free world to make a choice- to choose between western civillisation with it's science, the communists of Russia and China says Macmillian (with scary 'facts' to alarm) and the third power he states the rest of the undecided world. . The flee of immigrants from the old world to the new is emphasised to compel his words.

   Earlier this year was a piece in "The Guardian" where more parallels are made to his time in politics, a flu pandemic crisis and a "fragile economy". Then Macmillian in 1957 is compared to Boris Johnson today.

   Both likened to , " a premier with a preference for optimistic public statements, " (as a strategy rather than actuality with polls showing him slipping). There's the notion that the nation will take the view that, " Tory rule kept Britain prosperous and safe " and presenting " a Labour government as a terrible risk."

   Macmillian still won at the next election despite disastrous handling of the flu and loss of tens of thousands of lives.

   https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/01/cavalier-tory-leader-botched-pandemic-response-1957
   • Draco T Bastard 7.1

     31 July 2020 at 11:28 pm

     There's the notion that the nation will take the view that, " Tory rule kept Britain prosperous and safe " and presenting " a Labour government as a terrible risk."

     But the people have actually believed that lie. Both here and overseas. For some strange reason people do believe that conservative governments are better at national defence and managing the economy despite all the evidence showing that they're much, much worse than simply rolling the dice.
     • PaddyOT 7.1.1

       31 July 2020 at 11:38 pm

       I agree there, it's the eerie likening of Macmillian's speech to today's world that's unnerving.

       What was bizzare was he would head towards a conclusion that when 'we' , meaning those of his time, would look back in 50 years that they would all see less difference between South Africa's nation and Britains.

       The horror of what was to happen instead in SA wasn't in Macmillan's vision.
8. Draco T Bastard 8

   1 August 2020 at 2:56 am

   So, I was reading

   Economists on the Run:

   Paul Krugman and other mainstream trade experts are now admitting that they were wrong about globalization: It hurt American workers far more than they thought it would. Did America’s free market economists help put a protectionist demagogue in the White House?

   and I realised that we needed a new description for the pronouncements of economists because, well, generally speaking, they're just plain wrong.

   Te first thought that occurred to me is one we're all familiar with – the concept of Educated Guesses. But then I realised that that was wrong as economists have been educated to hold these wrong views and I realised that the correct definition is:

   Mis-educated guesses.
   • Draco T Bastard 8.1

     1 August 2020 at 2:59 am

     Oh, and I should probably also point out that there is no such thing as a Nobel Prize in economics:

     According to Philip Mirowski, a professor at the University of Notre Dame who specializes in the history economics, the “Bank of Sweden was trying to become more independent of democratic accountability in the late 60s, and there was a big political dispute in Sweden as to whether the bank could have effective political independence. In order to support that position, the bank needed to claim that it had a kind of scientific credibility that was not grounded in political support.”

     Its just another scam from the banksters.

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