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DNC Day 4: Madame President

Written By: - Date published: 1:16 pm, July 29th, 2016 - 103 comments
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The last day of the Democratic Party’s National Conference. Chelsea Clinton will introduce her mum around 2.30, then Hillary Clinton will presumably give the speech of her life at around 3pm.

In other news, the 1% candidate Donald Trump has removed his foot from his mouth long enough to splutter that he was only kidding about getting Russia to spy on American citizens. Too little, too late, according to commentators.

EDIT: Clinton’s final lines, echoed in a tweet from supporter Bernie Sanders:

That is the story of America. And we begin a new chapter tonight.

Yes, the world is watching what we do.

Yes, America’s destiny is ours to choose. So let’s be stronger together.

Looking to the future with courage and confidence.

Building a better tomorrow for our beloved children and our beloved country.

When we do, America will be greater than ever.

Thank you and may God bless the United States of America!

 

Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) July 29, 2016

I congratulate @HillaryClinton on this historic achievement. We are stronger together.

 

 

Live coverage of the speeches here:

 

 

Bonus: Video of Barack Obama from yesterday. It’s brilliant.

 

103 comments on “DNC Day 4: Madame President ”

  1. Liberal Realist 1

    TRP I wouldn’t be so sure your preferred candidate will be ‘Madame President’.

    Yes her coronation as nominee has proceeded as planned, regardless of stench of corruption surrounding Clinton and her DNC collaborators but that doesn’t mean she’ll win in November.

    The polling trends I’ve observed don’t look great for HRC, especially around trustworthiness (IMO Americans have good reason not to trust her). Then there’s the torrent of attacks that will soon come from the Republicans – that won’t let up until election day.

    I’ll close with a link to a very interesting documentary on the Clinton’s and their ‘Global Initiative’. If anyone is interested in how Bill and Hillary came to be so wealthy, do spend the time to watch this. No tin foil hats, no sensationalism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM

  2. Colonial Viper 2

    Bernie Sanders has announced he will give up his Democratic Party membership and return to being an independent.

    • Gotta link? I’ll put it in the post. If that’s the case, he’s probably done almost as much in a few short years to reform the Democratic party than anyone has in decades. If his influence lasts, that is!

      • Andre 2.1.1

        Less than a year, he only joined the Dems November 2015.

      • Just had a quick look at the news sites, CV. It appears not to be the case.

        He’s going to return to the senate after the Presidential campaign where he was already elected as an independent. So basically just going back to the status quo (no pun intended!). That’s kind of like Goff or Dalziel running for mayor as an independent. It doesn’t affect their party membership.

        I simply can’t find any mention of his resigning from the party. If it he had resigned, I imagine it would be leading the news everywhere, particularly if it was done on Hillary’s big day.

        • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.1

          Bernie confirmed to the media that he will return to being an independent senator in Vermont, and will not be a Democratic senator.

          • McFlock 2.1.2.1.1

            Meanwhile, as Joe90 posted five hours ago, WHAT’S FALSE: Sanders did not formally “leave” the Democratic Party, nor did he do so in protest.

            He’s just returning to the job for which he was elected.

            • dukeofurl 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Thats right never was ‘formally a democrat’

              Bonus tip, Eisenhower too was an independent until he got the GOP nomination when he changed to Republican

              Bonus tip . Hillary Clinton was a Goldwater Girl ( in high school)

              • DS

                Hillary was a Goldwater girl because she came from a staunch Republican household.

                She (and Bill) campaigned for George McGovern in 1972.

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.2.1.1.2

              No one suggested he left the party in protest. But he clearly does not want to extend his Democratic Party stay either.

              • McFlock

                We’ll see in two years, I guess.

              • Phil

                Bernie currently caucuses with the Democrats in Senate, but he was elected, and remains, an Independent Senator.

                He’s more than likely going to continue to caucus with the Democrats, because that would be consistent with his previous position.

    • dukeofurl 2.2

      Left the party, hardly hes just saying what he was all along

      “Asked after the event whether Mr. Sanders considers himself a Democrat or an independent, a campaign aide said, “He ran for president as a Democrat but was elected to a six-year term in the Senate as an independent.”

      “His Senate website and press materials continue to label him as an “independent” while his campaign website lists him as a “Democratic candidate.”

      “”I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,” he said in a 1985 New England Monthly profile, according to Politico.
      “Socialist is the political and economic philosophy I hold, not a party I run under,” he explained in 1988, when he unsuccessfully ran for Congress.”

      “Unlike elsewhere in the world, joining the two major parties isn’t contingent upon membership fees or an application process. Party leaders also don’t have the power to say someone isn’t a Democrat or a Republican.”

      “When asked if he would officially join the party on April 30, 2015, when he announced his candidacy, Sanders said, “No, I am an independent who is going to be working with the —” cutting himself off mid-sentence.”

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/23/bernie-sanders-democrat/

  3. Reality 3

    Listening just now to the introductions to Hillary coming on was awe-inspiring. Trumps’ silly circus acts show him up as being hopelessly unprepared and unsuitable for the role of President in comparison. Good luck to Hillary.

  4. Bill 4

    From the Guardian – This opinion piece by Jean Hannah Edelstein makes some bloody good points if accurate (I didn’t listen to Bill Clinton warbling. Btw, is it just me who gets reminded of that fucking awful purple T-rex character from some years back (Barney?) when he ups and opens his mouth?

    Bill Clinton’s speech was sweet. But it put Hillary the ‘girl’ firmly in her place.

    Hillary Clinton’s candidacy is a sign of progress, but it’s also a sign we have yet to progress to a point where a woman isn’t defined by her relationship to a man

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/28/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-speech

  5. swordfish 5

    “Bonus: Video of Barack Obama from yesterday. It’s brilliant.”

    Counterpunch’s Jeffrey St. Clair

    This was a night dominated by the hollow men of the Democratic Party: Panetta, Kaine, Biden and Obama. Men who knew better, but did worse. The theme was liberal virility, strength, and managerial efficiency. Missing was any empathy for the homeless and the hungry, the poor and the downtrodden. It was a frontal embrace of the neoliberal order, a demonstration that the Democrats have the competency and toughness to manage the imperial order in a time of severe internal and external stress.

    The last three hours weren’t a full-throated repudiation of Sanderism, so much as a casual dismissal, as if the core concerns Bernie’s movement gave voice to regarding the ravages of economic inequality didn’t even merit their attention. And Bernie sat passively in the imperial box seats with Jane squirming at his side, watching it all unfold.

    Barack Obama possesses so many scintillating skills, perhaps more skills than any other political figure of the modern era. Yet he put those magical gifts to such meagre, timid and often brutal uses. What a waste.

    Oh, and …

    Tim,Kaine, the Jesuit Missionary, talked about witnessing the horrors of the Honduran dictatorship without mentioning that it and its death squads were entirely supported by the US government and that the same generals were put back into power in a coup supported by Hillary Clinton!

    And …

    Almost every speaker on stage today has repeated the phrase “scary Donald Trump.” They are working overtime to scrub away the image of Madeleine Albright from last night, which caused so many Democratic children to have a sleepless night.

    • Colonial Viper 5.1

      And Hillary is just another in a long line of Democratic Hollowmen. Interesting how the Thorndon Bubble set have such admiration for the DC beltway/K Street set. I guess it’s becoming increasingly clear which camp various commentators here are in.

      • Yep. It’s not a hard choice; progress or the bigoted billionaire. I forget, which side are you on again? 😉

        • Colonial Viper 5.1.1.1

          I’m with the “bigoted billionaire.” He’s the one who won’t cause wars of regime change in poor, brown, secular Middle East countries, unlike the proven regime changing neocon, Hillary Clinton.

          She’s the candidate you somehow label as “progress.”

          • McFlock 5.1.1.1.1

            Except he wanted regime change in Libya.
            And he reckons the only problem with obama in syria is that Obama tells people how many troops he sends in.

            • Colonial Viper 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Where did Trump say that he wanted regime change in Libya? The Libyan regime change disaster was led by neocon Clinton, of course.

              Trump has been very critical of how Clinton left her Bengazi embassy staff to die.

              • McFlock

                Really? I linked to his podcast just a few days ago.

                In Feb 2011 Trump was advocating for regime change in Libya. NATO went in on 19 march 2011. So I guess it’s really Trump’s fault /sarc

                I guess your blinkers let you miss the link the first time.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Trump was a good friend of the Clintons at the time, including Hillary Clinton who was pushing the neocon agenda to take down Libya. So I’m not surprised that he was repeating lines from the pro-war structural status quo media at the time.

                  Since then he’s wised up by distancing himself from the Clinton neocon warmongers, and got good advice on foreign affairs.

                  • McFlock

                    lol
                    So now what Trump said is Clinton’s fault?

                    [headdesk]

                    • Colonial Viper

                      More subtle than that. Trump was accurately reflecting what the Clinton State Department was feeding to the MSM about Gaddafi and Libya, and how the USA needed to act in regime change.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      …not to mention Trump parrots whomsoever he’s cosy with today. A coherent narrative simply brimming with credibility and truthiness.

                    • McFlock

                      bwahahaha

                      So, basically, Trump’s geopolitical analysis then was based on simply reflecting popularly-held beliefs regardless of reality, and that’s how you manage to blame Clinton for what comes out of Trump’s mouth.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      In a way. Trump was reflecting the views of the press like the New York Times and the Washington Post; papers of record who were being fed the pro-war drum beat by Hillary’s State Department and her neocon friends.

                    • Andre

                      Is it just me or is our local Putin Puppet particularly unhinged and shrill today?

                    • McFlock

                      So simply by what he got from TV he turned on the guy he had played host to just a year and a half before. (h/t andre)

                      lol

                      I suppose that was Clinton’s fault, too.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Hi Andre. The US is step by step inching the world to first cold war then hot war against China and Russia. That’s a very bad thing for everyone.

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    🙄

          • te reo putake 5.1.1.1.2

            Ha! I guess that makes two bigoted billionaires you’re backing, Trump and Putin. One more and you get Bond villain status!

            • Colonial Viper 5.1.1.1.2.1

              Hillary Clinton your favourite – who has several hundred million in the Clinton Foundation if not more – is the one who has been destroying the countries of poor, brown people with neocon wars of regime change, and also faux “colour revolutions” funded from Washington DC.

              • Liberal Realist

                CV, TRP appears to have had far too much ‘koolaid’ buying the narrative “Clinton” = Good, “Trump = Bad”. They’re both bad! Clinton is simply far worse, by orders of magnitude.

                You’re correct about the Clinton Foundation. I encourage you to watch the doco I posted at the beginning of this thread, if you haven’t already seen it. Billary has some great mates in Paul Kagame, for example. Another is Billion dollar donations to their foundation in return for political favours, the list goes on.

              • D'Esterre

                Andre and trp: so: your issue with Putin is…..?

                • Colonial Viper

                  IMO that Putin is determined to have an independent foreign and economic policy which dares to pursue Russia’s own national security interests, in a backdrop where only the US empire is permitted to conduct strikes against civilians, destabilise governments around the world, fund insurgencies and colour revolutions against democracies, mass surveil the populations of “allies”, and send carrier groups to sit off the coast of faraway countries in the name of “freedom of navigation.”

            • infused 5.1.1.1.2.2

              you’ve lost the plot.

            • Nic the NZer 5.1.1.1.2.3

              Further item to add to the long list of Hilary’s virtues as a presidential candidate. To recap in full,
              1) She a woman.
              2) Her Husband is Bill Clinton.
              3) She’s (only) a (Multi-)Millionaire.
              (this one should be brought up in juxtaposition to Billionaire opponent)
              If that list doesn’t make your mind up, well…

          • DoublePlusGood 5.1.1.1.3

            No, he’ll just save his stoking violence for vulnerable Americans instead.

        • billmurray 5.1.1.2

          I’m with you ‘trp’, bigoted billionaire is the least of Trumps faults. What about ‘con man’ ‘liar’ ‘draft dodger’ there are more but that’s enough.

          • D'Esterre 5.1.1.2.1

            billmurray: “…bigoted billionaire is the least of Trumps faults. What about ‘con man’ ‘liar’ ‘draft dodger’ there are more but that’s enough.”

            Now remind me: which presidential candidates from which years would you be referring to here? Shysters, con artists, liars, draft dodgers, hand-up-the-skirters: we’ve seen ’em all over the past few decades. Not much honour or virtue to be found among them.

            Obama has been an all-talk-no-do president. He (and his missus) can give a rousing speech, but that’s about the limit of his abilities. He’s rubbish at the political process: evidence being his utter inability to get the Republicans to work with him. A pacifist he most certainly hasn’t been, he and his pernicious little drone programme. And Guantanamo remains open. And troops still in Iraq. Change we can believe in: bah humbug! Many of us will be glad to see the back of him.

            And the thought of Clinton getting the nod, and bringing that randy old goat of a husband into the White House as first chap: gah! What the hell did the rest of the world do to deserve that?

            Have other people noticed how stringy he looks now? I’ve heard that the rumour around Washington is he’s got AIDS. I snorted at the idea, but he sure does look ill. On the bright side, maybe he’s no longer got what it takes to molest the interns? Sure hope so. Bet Hillary does too.

            • red-blooded 5.1.1.2.1.1

              How about we stick to political argument? I don’t give a shit what marital arrangements the Clintons have (or had). As for looking stringy; age does that to people. Get over it.

              • D'Esterre

                red-blooded: “I don’t give a shit what marital arrangements the Clintons have (or had).”

                You may not care, but it by no means follows that it doesn’t matter. Of course it does. Remember what Clinton did in an attempt to divert attention from the Lewinsky scandal. His inability to control himself had significant consequences for a bunch of innocent others.

                We have the right to expect better of people in such positions; a fortiori, the White House interns need to be protected from predation of that sort.

                “As for looking stringy; age does that to people.”

                Haha! Not me that’s spreading the rumour, but Washington insiders. ‘Twould sure matter to any interns molested by him, though. And he isn’t so very old: one member of this household is older by a couple of years, yet looks much better than Clinton. Who looks ill, not old. Such things are of moment in the political process, especially since she’s said that she intends to put him in charge of economic policy if she’s elected.

                • Phil

                  His inability to control himself had significant consequences for a bunch of innocent others.

                  And the inability of Trump to control himself… that doesn’t have consequences for a bunch of innocent others?

        • Liberal Realist 5.1.1.3

          TRP – how can you call HCR progress? Progress to what exactly? Bombing the shit out of more countries? Progress toward a hot war with Russia?

          I simply do not understand how anyone that thinks of themselves as from the left, could support Clinton! She’s corrupt on a grand scale and there’s a figurative mountain of evidence to support that assertion.

          It sucks that American’s only have the choice between a bigot and a crook, that surely is the fault of their system and the behaviour of both major parties.

          Presented with this choice myself, I have to choose Trump as has CV. My reasoning is the same, Trump is far less likely to start a major war than Clinton. Sure he’s not going to be good for the US or for the world at large but one term is only 4 years. Much much better than a nuclear winter and the extinction of the human race bar the elites hiding in their bunkers…

          Clinton is a faux liberal, hawk, interventionist, neoliberal …. stop pretending she represents progress when she really represents the status quo. What’s the status quo? Everything the empire does in service of itself. Hillary is an agent of empire, an agent of progress she is not.

          • te reo putake 5.1.1.3.1

            Your choice says a lot about you. eg am I an arse? Why, yes, I am. If you are putting Trump ahead of the best interests of the rest of the world, you, my friend, are an arse.

            • the pigman 5.1.1.3.1.1

              Because the interests of the rest of the world are more US war-mongering and interventionism, right?

              Oh – right – you do actually believe that! *shrugs*

              • Colonial Viper

                And transnational corporate rule, corporate lobbyist written free trade agreements, shadow banking financialisation, …

          • Ad 5.1.1.3.2

            Read her policies.
            Compare them to the Trump policies.
            Really read and compare.
            Consider the effects of those policies on the uS and global public.

            Then make your choice.

          • locus 5.1.1.3.3

            We already know that Trump is both bigot, crook and a lot more besides…… which matters little if he can con the Trump uniform wearers that they will be part of a great USA again – make them believe that he can save them from the threat posed by all those mexicans and moslems

      • D'Esterre 5.1.2

        CV and swordfish:in case you haven’t seen it, this is worth a look.

        http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/11156794

        In particular, reason 5.

    • Cheers for mentioning this, full article was a good read.

  6. One Two 6

    WINNING!

  7. Karen 7

    Tweets from Bernie
    Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 37m37 minutes ago
    I congratulate @HillaryClinton on this historic achievement. We are stronger together.

    Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 8h8 hours ago
    We must end the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality that we currently experience, the worst it has been since 1928.

    Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 9h9 hours ago
    Trump wants to abolish the Affordable Care Act and throw 20 million people off of health insurance. We can’t let that happen. #DemsInPhilly

    Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 12h12 hours ago
    What we are dealing with now is quite honestly, the worst Republican candidate in the modern history of the United States of America.

    Trump wants to abolish the Affordable Care Act and throw 20 million people off of health insurance. We can’t let that happen.

    Bernie Sanders ‏@BernieSanders 12h12 hours ago
    What we are dealing with now is quite honestly, the worst Republican candidate in the modern history of the United States of America.

    More

  8. One Two 8

    Blatant censorship and fraud by the blue team in a ‘win at all costs’ to ensure that Clinton will be ok ‘installed’

    It’s about winning, it’s about control and it’s about subverting my any means necessary any semblance of truth

    DNC gives the world a front row seat to the most corrupted ‘democracy’ money can buy

    Endorsement and enactment of censorship is at the core of the authoritarian agenda

    • Ad 8.1

      You should have a read of LBJ’s rise in Robert Caro’s The Ascent To Power.

      Now there you have proper Texas-scale skullduggery, to lay waste a far better politician than Bernie or Corbyn could ever hope to be, and enable the rise of LBJ.

      Still, despite himself, he did some good.

    • Wayne 8.2

      Pretty understandable action by the DNC I would have thought. This was Hillary’s big day, and the last thing that was needed is blatant disruption by Bernie dead enders.

      Actually Bernie also understood this. In any nomination contest you have to know when you have lost and do so with good grace. And be prepared to back the winner.

      Any well organized political party staging such an event would have done the same thing. As one of the show biz speakers at the conference said earlier in the week, “stop being ridiculous”.

      • Indeed, Wayne. These are stage managed events and I think it’s to the Dem’s credit that they accepted the dissent with good grace. While some of Bernie Sanders supporters who attended the event may have left still sour about losing out, the TV audience, who are far more important, will have got a good impression of the event. The speeches by Sanders, Biden, the Obamas and the Clintons are what voters will remember, not the moans of a few.

        • Wayne 8.2.1.1

          Thanks, and yes the DNC allowed some dissent, but made sure it did not dominate, which would have been a terrible disaster for the Democratic campaign.

          I watched the speech. It was good, but too long. She lost some energy about half way through. If it had been shorter, say 30 to 40 minutes with all the best lines, it would have been a really great speech.

          She certainly fired some zingers at The Donald including the nuclear button one. But he had it coming to him. You can’t describe your opponent as”Crooked Hillary” or an enabler and expect any level of mutual respect. The gloves are off.

          Incidentally I have never understood the hatred against Hillary. I have met her and she seemed a throughly decent person. Hopefully the stories from Bill and Chelsea, plus her own story about her mother, will have gone some way to humanize Hillary for those middle voters who could go one way or the other.

          • Colonial Viper 8.2.1.1.1

            Geeezus the issue is not whether Bill and Hillary are congenial cordial people to have a cuppa with.

            As to why people don’t like Hillary here is a quick clue up:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_6fOuQtd38

          • te reo putake 8.2.1.1.2

            Interesting comment about humanizing Hillary. We tend to depersonalise public figures, whether it’s sports, politics, entertainment or whatever. We speak as if we know their essential character, but what we know is their public face, something they may have little control over and probably rarely reflects their actual personality. I’ve met many politicians and it’s my observation that they generally believe themselves to be decent people doing what they think is the right thing.

            Mind you, if the reports from former staff and friends are correct, what we see of Trump in the media closely resembles the man in person. That might be a first in political life.

            • miravox 8.2.1.1.2.1

              “Mind you, if the reports from former staff and friends are correct, what we see of Trump in the media closely resembles the man in person. That might be a first in political life.”

              Possibly a first, however Berlusconi was another self-aggrandising bigot with suspect friends who never pretended he was anything else. And he did get to ruin a country while enriching himself.

      • Anne 8.2.2

        I agree Wayne. The DNC handled the situation well. As far as I could tell there was no rancour expressed towards the dissenters by any of the speakers. Actually I felt sorry for them because they were experiencing their first taste of political grief and didn’t know how to handle it. Many of us have been through it. As a young woman I remember the untimely death of my political hero, Norman Kirk. I was devastated.

        I’ve never warmed to Hillary Clinton but, imo, this attempt to demonise her at every turn has been grossly overdone.

    • locus 8.3

      well I’ve worked and lived in authoritarian countries and although there’s a heap of crazy things wrong with the US, thank goodness they still have some semblance of a democratic system and democratic institutions. I’m not sure that Trump will allow for so much democracy or differing opinions if he gets into power….

      I did find it odd when working in the US that so many intelligent and decent republicans I met lost all sight of reason when getting on to healthcare, guns, women’s rights, racial equality, Islam

  9. Ad 9

    You’ll need a full 1.2 hours, but download Trump’s whole speech, put it on a big screen at home, pour your favourite beverage, and have a wallow.

    I did that last weekend, with the fire on and the lights low, and it is freaking awesome politics.

    And then, to shower yourself in virtue, download this third day’s worth of speeches + Michelle’s, pour your favourite beverage, and take a drink every time you hear the word “children”, “future”, “hope”, “qualified”, “woman”, and “America”.

    That is a better night out than anything you can get at the movies right now.

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      Yep watched the Trump speech but couldn’t get through the Michelle Obama one, knowing what her husband has actually done with his 8 years. Although I give him credit for 2 things – the nuclear deal with Iran, and not going full regime change invasion in Syria.

      • Ad 9.1.1

        For Trump, you get a tiny rehearsal in Season 3 of the West Wing when the Speaker takes over the Presidency.

      • DoublePlusGood 9.1.2

        ObamaCare? Glasnost with Cuba? It hasn’t all been bombings and extrajudicial killings.

      • dukeofurl 9.1.3

        Dont think that was the choice: which was bombing the Assad regime HQ, they were allready up to their neck on regime change via proxies.

        Balkans was much the same , everyone was supplying arms or intel to one or other of the sides. Even in Israelis were in , supporting the Serbs for strange reasons.
        Its one of the great myths of our time, that the ordinary public rises up and sustains a civil war, when they all want peace and to be left alone. Global politics supporting factions or ethnic groups makes a bit of civil unrest into a bloody civil war with refugees and or ethnic cleansing.

        Yugoslavia, Syria, Ukraine, the travel guide book changes but the background players never do.
        This is the real reason Russia moved on the Crimea, they could see that ‘ethnic unrest’ would spread very quickly, helped by nato to de-stabilise the russian bases there.

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.3.1

          Balkanisation was a US/NATO plan.

          So yes, this is the same western imperial/colour revolution/regime change play over and over again.

        • D'Esterre 9.1.3.2

          dukeofurl: “This is the real reason Russia moved on the Crimea…”

          At the risk of upending your rationale here, it wasn’t anything like as passive on the part of Crimea as this account suggests.

          Without doubt it suited Russia geopolitically to take back the Crimea, but the Crimeans themselves initiated the process. Immediately following the coup in Kiev, the Crimean government, having seen who’d taken power, acted to decamp. That was the third time since independence that the Crimea had attempted to leave the Ukraine: this time, they made sure it happened. An overwhelming proportion of citizens voted in a referendum to leave. Following the referendum results, the Crimean government petitioned Russia for annexation. Pictures of the celebrations even showed on TV news here: Rossiya! Rossiya! they shouted as they waved flags.

          Scarcely surprising that Crimeans wanted out; it was traditionally a Russian area, given to the Ukraine by Krushchev in the early 1950s, so well within living memory. People will act to reverse decisions of that sort, over which they had no say. We would do the same, I’m guessing.

  10. One Anonymous Bloke 10

    Dylan Ratigan nailed it years ago.

    In these circumstances, why on Earth would anyone expect the DNC to be immune?

    What can we do about it in NZ? Get the money out of politics: close Cabinet Club with extreme prejudice.

  11. Ovid 11

    Joe Biden’s speech yesterday was something special. I think he will be a key part in gaining any white working class men for Clinton.

    • AsleepWhileWalking 11.1

      Why isn’t he running for president? A much better choice imho.

      • Ovid 11.1.1

        He decided he wasn’t in the right place emotionally after his son died last year. I think he has a certain avuncular charm that is rare in VPs.

      • Lanthanide 11.1.2

        The 538 opinion (for what it’s worth) is that he probably would have lost to Clinton. But they also made the observation, that if he’d stayed in long enough, it likely would have produced a contested convention, since Hillary wouldn’t have gotten enough to beat Bernie outright.

  12. Byd0nz 12

    Ah the entertainment,
    The 2016 Presidential race,
    Contenders in the ring
    As the slagging gathers pace.

    Lying Hillary [r0b: del – sorry to spoil the metre] Clinton,
    And the manic danger of Donald Trump,
    Tearing bits out of each others credibility
    trading a blow for a thump.

    The greatest nation on earth
    On this they both agree
    As the world looks on, shaking heads
    With either scorn or glee.

    A circus could not provide such sights
    As the protagonists gag and choke
    But either one as President, makes it sure
    The future, will be no joke.

  13. adam 13

    Every news piece I’m seeing is saying the same thing.

    The majority of people voting for trump or h.r.c,

    are voting for them because they hate either or h.r.c. or trump.

    We have a clear winner – the politics of fear.

  14. Macro 14

    As usual The First Dog sums it all up.

  15. Ad 15

    Pretty dignified speech there at the Democrats’ Conference.
    I was hoping someone was going to quote the US Constitution at some point:

  16. Ad 16

    A summary of Republican reaction to the Democratic convention: Takeout is Republicans got creamed.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservatives-agree-dnc-was-disaster-for-gop

  17. CynicalJester 17

    If you think hillary will win the presidency youre as blind as the neoliberals you worship trp.

    Trump will destroy her, itll be a landslide defeat.

    Make peace with it.

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    The Government has deployed a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 Orion (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea, announced Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark. “New Zealand has long supported ...
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  • Pacific trade and development agreement a reality
    Pacific regional trade and development agreement PACER Plus will enter into force in 60 days now that the required eight countries have ratified it. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker welcomed the announcement that the Cook Islands is the eighth nation to ratify this landmark agreement. “The agreement represents ...
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  • Securing a pipeline of teachers
    The Government is changing its approach to teacher recruitment as COVID-19 travel restrictions continue, by boosting a range of initiatives to get more Kiwis into teaching. “When we came into Government, we were faced with a teacher supply crisis,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “Over the past three years, we ...
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  • Border exceptions for a small number of international students with visas
    The Government has established a new category that will allow 250 international PhD and postgraduate students to enter New Zealand and continue their studies, in the latest set of border exceptions. “The health, safety and wellbeing of people in New Zealand remains the Government’s top priority. Tight border restrictions remain ...
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    1 week ago
  • First COVID-19 vaccine purchase agreement signed
    The Government has signed an agreement to purchase 1.5 million COVID-19 vaccines – enough for 750,000 people – from Pfizer and BioNTech, subject to the vaccine successfully completing all clinical trials and passing regulatory approvals in New Zealand, say Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods and Health Minister Chris Hipkins. ...
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  • International statement – End-to-end encryption and public safety
    We, the undersigned, support strong encryption, which plays a crucial role in protecting personal data, privacy, intellectual property, trade secrets and cyber security.  It also serves a vital purpose in repressive states to protect journalists, human rights defenders and other vulnerable people, as stated in the 2017 resolution of the ...
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  • Ministry of Defence Biodefence Assessment released
    The Ministry of Defence has today released a Defence Assessment examining Defence’s role across the spectrum of biological hazards and threats facing New Zealand. Biodefence: Preparing for a New Era of Biological Hazards and Threats looks at how the NZDF supports other agencies’ biodefence activities, and considers the context of ...
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  • New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020
    New Approaches to Economic Challenges: Confronting Planetary Emergencies: OECD 9 October 2020 Hon David Parker’s response following Thomas Piketty and Esther Duflo. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, wherever in the world you might be. I first acknowledge the excellent thought provoking speeches of Thomas Piketty and Esther ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Kaipara Moana restoration takes next step
    A Memorandum of Understanding has been signed today at Waihāua Marae between the Crown, local iwi and councils to protect, restore and enhance the mauri of Kaipara Moana in Northland. Environment Minister David Parker signed the document on behalf of the Crown along with representatives from Ngā Maunga Whakahī, Ngāti ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand and Uruguay unite on reducing livestock production emissions
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor and Uruguayan Minister of Livestock, Agriculture and Fisheries Carlos María Uriarte have welcomed the launch of a three-year project that will underpin sustainable livestock production in Uruguay, Argentina, and Costa Rica.  The project called ‘Innovation for pasture management’ is led by Uruguay’s National Institute of Agricultural ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • 3100 jobs created through marae upgrades
    Hundreds of marae throughout the country will be upgraded through investments from the Provincial Growth Fund’s refocused post COVID-19 funding to create jobs and put money into the pockets of local tradespeople and businesses, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta have announced. “A total ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Health volunteers recognised in annual awards
    Health Minister Chris Hipkins has announced 9 teams and 14 individuals are the recipients of this year’s Minister of Health Volunteer Awards.  “The health volunteer awards celebrate and recognise the thousands of dedicated health sector volunteers who give many hours of their time to help other New Zealanders,” Mr Hipkins ...
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  • Community COVID-19 Fund supports Pacific recovery
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says a total of 264 groups and individuals have successfully applied for the Pacific Aotearoa Community COVID-19 Recovery Fund, that will support Pacific communities drive their own COVID-19 recovery strategies, initiatives, and actions. “I am keen to see this Fund support Pacific ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Community benefits from Māori apprenticeships
    Up to 50 Māori apprentices in Wellington will receive paid training to build houses for their local communities, thanks to a $2.75 million investment from the Māori Trades and Training Fund, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Ngāti Toa Rangatira Incorporated to provide its Ngā Kaimahi ...
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  • Training fund supports Māori jobseekers
    Rapidly growing sectors will benefit from a $990,000 Māori Trades and Training Fund investment which will see Wellington jobseekers supported into work, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “This funding will enable Sapphire Consultants Ltd. to help up to 45 Māori jobseekers into paid training initiatives over two years through ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Ruakura Inland Port development vital infrastructure for Waikato
    The Government is investing $40 million to develop an inland port at Ruakura which will become a freight super-hub and a future business, research and residential development for the Waikato, Urban Development and Transport Minister Phil Twyford, and Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today. The funding has been has ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Appointments made to Defence Expert Review Group
    Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today the establishment of an Expert Review Group to review a number of aspects of the New Zealand Defence Force’s (NZDF) structure, information management and record-keeping processes.  The Expert Review Group’s work arises out of the first recommendation from the Report of the Government’s Inquiry ...
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  • No active community cases of COVID-19
    There are no active community cases of COVID-19 remaining in the country after the last people from the recent outbreak have recovered from the virus, Health Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “This is a big milestone. New Zealanders have once again through their collective actions squashed the virus. The systems ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Clean energy upgrade for more public buildings
    More public buildings will be supported by the Government to upgrade to run on clean energy, the Minister for Climate Change James Shaw announced today. Minister Shaw announced that Lincoln and Auckland universities will receive support through the Clean-Powered Public Service Fund to replace fossil fuel boilers. Southern, Taranaki, and ...
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  • Schools back donations scheme for the second year
    More schools have opted in to the donations scheme for 2021, compared to 2020 when the scheme was introduced. “The families of more than 447,000 students will be better off next year, with 94% of eligible schools and kura opting into the scheme,” Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “This is ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Ruapehu cycle trails gets PGF boost
    The spectacular Mountains to Sea cycle trail in Ruapehu District will receive $4.6 million in funding from the Provincial Growth Fund for two additional trails, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This is an exciting development for the local community, and one that will provide significant economic opportunities ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Update to air border order strengthens crew requirements
    Additional measures coming into effect on Monday will boost our defence against COVID-19 entering New Zealand through the air border, Health Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “As part of our precautionary approach and strategy of constant review, we’re tightening the requirements around international aircrew,” Chris Hipkins said. The COVID-19 Public ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • A true picture of Māori business activity
    A better picture of the contribution Māori businesses make to the economy will be possible with changes to the way information is collected about companies and trading enterprises. Māori Development Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Small Business Minister Stuart Nash have announced a new option for Māori enterprises who are part ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • PGF funding for Taranaki projects
    The South Taranaki museum, a New Plymouth distillery and a Pasifika building firm will benefit from a Government investment totalling more than $1 million, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says. The $1.05m in grants and loans from the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will help the recipients expand and create ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Fijian Language Week 2020 inspires courage and strength during COVID-19 pandemic
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Aupito William Sio says the theme for the 2020 Fijian Language Week reflects the strong belief by Fijians that their language and culture inspires courage and strength that is strongly needed in times of emergencies, or through a significant challenge like the global COVID-19 pandemic ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Trades training builds on iwi aspirations
    An investment of $2.025 million from the Māori Trades and Training Fund will support Māori to learn new skills while making a positive difference for their communities, announced Employment Minister Willie Jackson today. “K3 Development Limited Partnership will receive $2,025,000 for its Takitimu Tuanui apprenticeship programme, which will support the ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Conservation Minister plants two millionth tree in Raglan restoration
    A long-term conservation project led by the Whaingaroa Harbour Care group in the western Waikato reaches a significant milestone this week, with the planting of the two millionth tree by the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage. “Planting the two millionth tree crowns 25 years of commitment and partnership involving Whaingaroa ...
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    3 weeks ago
  • Seniors – our parents and grandparents
    International Older Persons Day is a chance to think about the individual older New Zealanders we know and to confront ageism, Seniors Minister Tracey Martin said today. “What happened around COVID-19 is a reminder that our over-65s are a very large and diverse group of people and we need to ...
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