Drop the Immigration Bill

Written By: - Date published: 2:46 pm, July 9th, 2008 - 77 comments
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The September 11 attacks were used as cover to pass draconian laws around the world, particularly concerning immigration. The Government is, once again, following suit with the new Immigration Bill. It’s a shockingly bad piece of legislation that gives broad powers to immigration and other government officials (read SIS), removes judicial oversight, and allows personal information on a wide range of people, including New Zealand citizens, to be shared with foreign intelligence services. Both Labour and National support the Bill at present, although Labour members are said to be very unhappy with it. The Greens and Maori party oppose it, as should all New Zealanders.

Insanely, many of the provisions in the Bill seem to be directed at ensuring that, in a repeat of the Ahmed Zaoui case, the Crown would be successful in having the refugee applicant branded a security risk and deported. That’s Ahmed Zaoui, the supposed terrorist who languished in Mt Eden for years and, now he is free(ish), spends his time writing poetry and giving lectures on human rights. The Crown had it completely wrong in Zaoui’s case, he isn’t a security threat and never was, but it took years of delay and obstruction of the judicial system by the SIS for justice to be done. The lesson should have been that the SIS was too paranoid and incapable of admitting error. Instead, this Bills wants to re-design the system so that the SIS and other agencies can’t be called into question.

Gordon Campbell rips apart the Bill in detail here and here better than I could, so I’ll limit myself to one clause of personal interest. Clause 9 of the Bill provides that entry to New Zealand may not be permitted for anyone who has been denied entry to or deported from another country. Essentially, the clause says we should give up our sovereign right to decide who should enter our country and instead give that decision to any country (any country eg Saudi Arabia, Russia, Cuba) who has denied that person entry for whatever reason, regardless of whether that reason is relevant or just in New Zealand. Now, the consequences for refugees from third world countries are obvious and dire but some of our readers have trouble empathising with poor, dark-skinned foreigners – so let’s take an example of nice middle-class white people, just like you, instead. My former partner is Estonian. She was once denied entry to Sweden due to a misunderstanding over transit visas. Half a year later, she came out here on a working visa under the family stream she worked here for one and a half years. Had this new law been in place, we would have been denied the opportunity to be together and New Zealand would have lost the use of a skilled worker, simply because a Swedish immigration officer stuffed up. That’s exactly the kind of unintended consequence that flows from reactionary laws.

This Bill gives unnecessary powers to government officials and actively bars proper judicial checks on the exercise of those powers. Looking at Parliament’s order paper, there will not be time to pass the Bill in the current Parliament. Whoever wins the election, let’s hope the next Parliament has the wisdom to drop this dangerous legislation.

77 comments on “Drop the Immigration Bill ”

  1. T-rex 1

    Amen, that sounds like a bloody awful proposal.

    Anyone here seen ‘Rendition’?

    Righties – here at least we should be able to agree. What could be more of an intrusion into your lives than this?

  2. “Clause 9 of the Bill provides that entry to New Zealand may not be permitted for anyone who has been denied entry to or deported from another country”. Do we really want people in New Zealand that have been clearly convicted, and deported in the hope of starting a fresh in a our country? Same example can be used for if a convicted murderer were to move into our neighbourhood we wouldn’t want him there. I don’t know why you disagree with it Mr. Pierson.

  3. AndrewE 3

    I, for one, am against this bill being passed.

    It is relatively easy to be denied entry into a country. I got denied entry into Singapore on medical grounds as I’d just come from a malarial zone and didn’t have the required medical clearance.

    If I pissed off some immigration official I could be denied entry into NZ.

    Technicalities matter.

    Now if only we could get agreement on our Electoral Law.

  4. T-rex 4

    Do they mean “may not be permitted” (imperative) or “may be refused” (option)? Because if they mean the latter it would make slightly more sense, but they really ought to change the wording.

  5. Before visiting this site I was literally wondering who, apart from Campbell and Idiot/Savant would stand against this bill. It is profoundly ugly, giving immigration unprecedented powers to use against both immigrant and citizen alike (anyone associated with an immigrant can be investigated). These powers are completely without judicial oversight, and can be used at the behest of foreign powers.

    I don’t think I’m engaging in hyperbole when I say that this bill opens the back door to a fascist state. It takes away that many rights, and puts them in the hands of the SIS.

    Captcha: Hon Palmer – I wonder what Geoffrey has to say about this law.

  6. Pascal's bookie 6

    Yep, this bill sucks.

  7. Aaron Kirk. Read my example and AndrewE’s one, those are reasons to oppose the clause in it’s current form. Essentially, the clause says we should give up our sovereign right to decide who should enter our country and instead give that decision to any country (any country eg Saudi Arabia, Russia, Cuba) who has denied that person entry for whatever reason, regardless of whether that reason is relevant or just in New Zealand.

  8. The media are almost completely silent on the issue. A search of the Herald, Stuff, RadioNZ, TVNZ, and TV3 brings up nothing. At least we know whether to count on them to bring us the news that matters. As per usual, Scoop is the only reliable professional news source in the country.

  9. As per usual, Scoop is the only reliable professional news source in the country.

    true that (we’re not professionals 😉 )

  10. Daveski 10

    Ha ha … should have read this before making my previous comments about the Standard and Labour 🙂

    The lack of transparency and the abuse of power is something we should all oppose.

  11. AndrewE 11

    Heh, odds are that the Nats will support this bill too.

  12. Yeah, National does support it. In fact, i would think that the major party more likely to drop support for it is Labour.

  13. AndrewE 13

    Steve, you may not realise this but this is a GOVERNMENT bill.

  14. I would hope so, but Helen Clark stated her firm intention to pass a bill of this nature in the middle of the Zaoui fiasco:

    December 7, 2004: “I regard the protracted procedures around this matter as quite unsatisfactory, and when the Zaoui case is complete, there will certainly be a review of the law.”

    I don’t think Helen Clark will be giving up on this bill any time soon.

    Also, given NZFirst’s enthusiasm for this bill, withdrawing from it would seriously damage their coalition.

    My only hope at this stage is that the Greens and Maori Party hold the balance of power after the election and are able to thwart it. It’s pretty difficult to see it being properly reformed, as there are simply so many things wrong with it.

  15. higherstandard 15

    While I would have been happy to have seen Zaoui sent back from whence he came, briefly reading Campbell’s overview of the bill it appears to be rampantly draconian.

    Anything that gives these kind of broad, sweeping powers to government officials and bureaucrats needs to be very carefully considered, vetted and hopefully watered down.

    As it reads at the moment the Bill should be killed – if the price is an occasional Zaoui getting into NZ rather than delivering more unbridled power to government I’ll happily (probably grudingly) pay it.

  16. T-rex 16

    Also, given NZFirst’s enthusiasm for this bill, withdrawing from it would seriously damage their coalition.

    That will hopefully be irrelevant.

  17. T-rex 17

    HS – High five! AGAIN!

  18. Pascal's bookie 18

    “My only hope at this stage is that the Greens and Maori Party hold the balance of power after the election and are able to thwart it.”

    True

    Re the media

    It’s an election year and the media have got a horse race to cover. On this crappy bill the two main horses are in agreement, so there is no hook to hang the story on.

    “A contentious immigration bill is coming to the house that could spell problems for party X. Party Y Leader Yy Yyyyy said today that “This Bill is an outrage that shows ordinary New Zealanders how beleggidty blag snargle party X really is. What a pack of w8nkers”

    A Party X spokesperson responded that “Yy Yyyyy is a terrorist symp fargnarkling champion from way back”, and that “New Zealanders should be aware that should they vote for Y they’ll prob’ly end up slaughtered in their beds”. (developing) lede to follow.

    is a story, “Parties X and Y Agree on Craptacular Bill ” is not.

    Which is a problem.

  19. Not for nothing did Nandor describe talk with anger about the press gallery’s refusal to talk about anything other than conflicts, and describe them as vultures. EFA “rights removal” = conflict = front page stories. Immigration bill rights removal = consensus = nothing.

    So the obvious question is: how do we create some bloody conflict? My suggestion is to get a retiring Labour MP to cross the floor and vote with his or her conscience (fat chance, I know).

  20. Ari 20

    PB: Which is exactly what’s wrong with the media. They only want to hear about political issues when it’s a fight between National and Labour, not when we actually have policy to talk about.

  21. Pascal's bookie 21

    ” My suggestion is to get a retiring Labour MP to cross the floor and vote with his or her conscience (fat chance, I know).”

    It’s a good idea though. Fill their email boxes, write letters, ring the buggers up. That sort of thing?

  22. Margaret Wilson and Tim Barnett are both sensitive to rights issues and retiring. Wilson is also speaking at Drinking Liberally – I wonder if any could convince her to stand up for her liberal principles against this most illiberal law?

  23. AndrewE. i know it’s a government bill but that doesn’t mean it necessarily has strong support in Labour. Hopefully they will at least bump it to the bottom of the order paper or there will be big changes coming out of select committee.

  24. I wish I could say: “oh, at least Labour will be out soon and the law won’t pass”, but given National’s support for it, that seems unlikely.

    Should we resign ourselves to the inevitable and save ourselves the anguish of having a faint hope dashed?

  25. T-rex 25

    NO!

    FUCK THAT SHIT!

    We should get a easy to understand summary together, and see how people feel about it.

    This is precisely the kind of thing that should be an election issue! And it’s also PRECISELY the kind of thing that compromises the freedoms conservatives love to pretend they uphold but actually subvert.

    I’ll do the colouring in?

  26. T-rex: unfortunately, it’ll be law by election-time. The Committee reports back in two weeks, after which they’ll have two whole months to get it through (and its a priority bill, so it’ll be pushed to the top of the Order Paper, maybe even get urgency).

    If we want to fight this, we have to attack Labour’s majority for it – which means hitting the Greens, Maori Party, and United Future (NZ First, of course, loves the idea). Of course, they’d still be able to pass it with National, but I don’t think either party would relish that prospect.

  27. T-rex 27

    I/S – I’ve emailed you a reply, let me know if it doesn’t come through.

  28. jbc 28

    You mention Clause 9, did you spot this (it’s under Appeals in relation to residence class visas):

    No appeal however lies against –
    a refusal to grant a visa or entry permission to an excluded person (a person to whom clause 9 or 10 applies)

    If that means what I think it does then it is nasty nasty nasty.

    Particularly given that the USA has turned paranoid lunatic with their immigration practices. You could probably be denied entry there just for looking different.

  29. So um – who here has issues campaign experience? I’m betting a fair few of you. Perhaps start with a web petition? Or an email campaign (I’d recommend targeting key journos rather than MPs – they aren’t so used to being lobbied). How about a few letters to the editor? But wait. I’m getting ahead of myself. You need to be able to sell the issue in a framed soundbite. How about the fortress NZ Bill? Nah I don’t like it – any other ideas?

  30. T-rex 30

    Working on it as we speak Sod.

    I’m a pretty pissed of panda right now.

  31. T-rex 31

    The Guantanamo Bill

  32. T-rex 32

    No? Journalists LOVE saying Guantanamo. It’ll be like when sportscasters learnt to say ‘Rokocoko’ all over again.

  33. The Guantanamo Bill? I like it (the name at least)

  34. Oliver 34

    That clause you’re talking about is hardly new. Next time you travel read the back of the arrival card, most people never actually read the card, and you’ll see that anyone who is not a New Zealand citizen is required to state whether they have ever been sentenced to 12 months or more in prison or deported or removed from any country.

  35. Ari 35

    I/S: I think it’s pretty much guaranteed the Greens will vote against this. I think you’re really going to have to go directly to Labour on this one. One of the really good strategies to try on them would be that turning this thing around would be a great way to counter that whole “arrogant” line John Key is running 😛

    Is this one being voted along party lines? If so… ewww.

    If I can lend a hand on this, I’ll try to make some time for it, as this sounds like it’s going to be this terms big human rights stinker. (Why is there always at least one?)

    Oliver: Firstly, there’s a difference between deportation and removal and being turned away. Secondly, there’s a difference between being required to reveal something like that and officials being required to turn you away because of it.

  36. Ari: Of course its being voted on on party lines. Almost everything is.

    As for going to Labour, they wrote the bill, they’ve made it a centrepiece of their legislative programme for this year, and they’re hardly going to want to dump it, or make embarassing amendments (though the SC might at least do that bit for them). They will have to be forced to – and the way to do that is to systematically target the small parties they need to make up the votes, denying them a majority unless they make concessions.

    Lobbying Labour backbenchers so they can raise concerns and push for amendments in caucus is good, but secondary. In order for their even to be amendments, we have to deny Labour a majority. It’s that simple.

  37. T-rex 37

    If ever there was a bill that should be a concience vote, it’s this.

  38. Tane 38

    I/S – I haven’t really followed this so you’ll have to forgive me, but wouldn’t Labour and National be able to push this through even without the minor parties?

  39. T-rex 39

    Tane – Combined, easily, yes.

    Hence the need for a bit of marching in the streets.

    A significant number of the components of this bill are not consistent with Labour party ideology. The Greens already oppose it. Labour should make their opposition to it a point of difference from National, and withdraw it from consideration – or at the very least modify it to such a degree that it’s barely recognisable.

  40. Quick Justice 40

    Thanks for the article and analysis Steve.
    I also like the site and vintage masthead. But hey, your readers are not all white and middleclass. Some of us working class Polynesians care about politics and human rights too.

  41. Tane: yes, they could. But this close to an election, National has definite incentives to embarass the government, which should preclude a bipartisan rescue in the short-term.

    T-rex: the problem is that Labour has hung a fair amount of prestige on this, and in addition Winston has their nuts in a vice. So they’re not going to give it up easily.

  42. T-rex 42

    Well it was a stupid thing for them to hang their prestige on. I think it’s a concession to Peters, as you say. In that case, persuading Labour to abandon it would be a matter of persuading them that the political cost of supporting it is higher than the political cost of said abandonment.

    The political cost of abandoning it should be pretty low if we can bring Peters to task for his total disregard of basic human rights.

  43. Ari 43

    I/S: You can never be too sure- I tend to ask obvious questions. I figured this didn’t seem like a conscience vote though.

    Tane: Considering it’s voted on party lines, only John Key and Helen Clark need to agree to the policy, essentially. Generally even on conscience votes, anything supported by the senior leadership of both Labour and National is incredibly likely to pass- we’ve yet to have a poll or election that gives the minor parties that kind of mandate.

    Quick Justice: Hang around! It’d be nice to have another commenter with a different upbringing. The feminists charge in here now and then, too, so the Standardistas are pretty welcoming.

    T-rex: Less of a concession and more of a capitulation, I’d say.

  44. John Edmundson 44

    Idiot/Savant: “Winston has their nuts in a vice”

    T-Rex: “The political cost of abandoning it should be pretty low if we can bring Peters to task for his total disregard of basic human rights”

    Moan about New Zealand First’s xenophobia if you want, but you can’t hang this Bill on Peters; as a couple of people have already mentioned here, this Bill is a Labour Party initiative, telegraphed by Helen Clark when she realised that illegally holding Ahmed Zaoui as a political prisoner was not going to be retrospectively legitimised by the courts. Labour and National are marching in lockstep on this (surprise surprise) and they will do everything they need to to get it through. Don’t hold your breath waiting for Barnett or Wilson to go out in a blaze of glory. I never noticed them dying in a ditch for Zaoui while he rotted in gaol for nearly 5 years (5 Labour government years that is).

  45. T-Rex. While it is the kind of legislation that makes NZ First happy, it is a Government bill, and Helen Clark and other ministers were making explicit noises about changing the law to prevent Zaoui from ever occuring again in 2004 and 2005. They wrote the bill in mid 2006 and released a paper summarising the ideas contained and asked for comment. Human rights and immigration orgs made submissions, but it is largely unchanged from that document.

    Peter Dunne might be worth a go. But given that he won’t want to piss of Helen Clark and be excluded should Labour hold the balance of power again, I think there are pretty long odds on it, even if he disagrees. Still, probably worth a shot.

    Otherwise the best way to stop this bill is to vote the bastards out. And then, in 2011, have the law changed.

  46. Thanks John. It astounds me to hear the expressions of surprise from Labour supporters, but especially from people who should know better. It’s like they’ve had their hands over their ears for years. They’ll talk about the things they want to talk about, unemployment etc. and how bad John Key is, but anything else just falls off the radar.

    To be fair to I/S, he hasn’t blamed this bill on anyone but Labour.

    This Government is arrogant and out of touch, and needs to go.

  47. T-rex 47

    George, your last sentence causes me to doubt your sincerity.

    Labour does not want to lose this election.

    There are 4 options here.

    1) National Support, Labour Support: Neither party gains any advantage – unlikely as they’re both desperate for any edge they can get.

    2) National support, Labour oppose: Bill unlikely to pass in the short term, Labour may gain some advantage through NOT trying to deny NZ citizens due process of law etc

    3) Labour support, National oppose: Bill may not pass, and even if it does it will be amended by National following the election. Clark would be a complete MORON to allow this combination, it would guarantee political oblivion. The UN might have some questions as to why she implemented a set of laws that contravened international law too.

    4) Both oppose: Works for me.

  48. John Edmundson 48

    But T-rex, why would Labour oppose its own Bill? What you don’t seem prepared to accept is that Labour actually “want” to implement this draconian piece of legislation. This is not some kind of game they’re playing. They’re not tossing a bit of xenophobia Peters’ way to secure his support after the election. Chances are Peters and NZ First won’t even be there after the election. This is all about Labour and National putting in place the legislation they think this country needs in a “post 9/11” world. Welcome to a new era of dawn raids, first introduced at the end of a Labour term of government, oh! just like last time, when Kirk introduced the first round of dawn raids . . .

  49. T-rex 50

    why would Labour oppose its own Bill

    Because they are OUR government and they answer to US. Not the other way around.

    If the genuinely want to implement it, they can give eachother high 5’s over its success from the side of the road, and try to get new jobs while tainted with the following labels.

    1) Attacker of freedom
    2) Advocate of torture
    3) Enemy of equality under law
    4) Proponent of unchecked power
    5) … I could come up with quite a few

    It will take me until the end of the weekend to come up with something effective. Various Labour MP’s potentially reading this – Between now and monday is about how long you’ve got to say something like “I have grave reservations about the details of this bill – I feel it represents a direct attack on not only Kiwi values, but the most basic of international human rights”.

    Parker?
    Barnett?
    Cullen?
    Goff?
    O’Connor?
    CLARK?
    COSGROVE?

    Sort it out. Now.

    2 Days.

    Then you all get burnt.

  50. John Edmundson 51

    I hate to disillusion you T-rex but we’re not in V for Vendetta II here, and even V took 20 years in preparation plus a year of people “actually knowing about him” before he built his mass movement. It won’t happen “between now and Monday”. Good luck if it does. If so, I’ll eat humble pie and get right behind you. In the meantime, good luck raising your army of the outraged to do what no one has been able to do for a hundred years and overthrow the Labour and National parties “by Monday”. Burnt??? I can’t picture Phil Goff right now, rushing to the Warehouse to buy a fire extinguisher. This is actually one of the problems with the blogosphere. People mistake their own little circle for the real world…

  51. T-rex 52

    Well sh*t, yes, you’re probably right.

    So what are YOU going to do John?

    I don’t need to overthrow both of them – only one.

    The other problem with the blogosphere is that it’s full of people who hold forth at great length about ideals, goals, and the world we should live in, but sod all time actually acting to further them.

    The other thing we’re got that V didn’t is freedom of press.I don’t need to put a print machine in my basement, I just need to email something suitably shiny and provocative to every editor in New Zealand. They might be incompetent a lot of the time, but they’re free.

    For now.

    Until it’s decided that National Security trumps freedom of speech as well.

  52. T-rex 53

    Also – I’m not going to acheive a bloody thing by monday, obviously. But it’s a lot more convincing coming out in opposition to something before you have reporters baying at your door.

    Labour is on the skids amidst ‘Nanny State’ accusations over saying you shouldn’t hit your children. Can you imagine how people will react to:

    NannyState2 – You shouldn’t be allowed a fair trial.

  53. T-rex 54

    Come on people.

    Don’t be the guy in panel 7, be the kid at the bottom.

  54. John Edmundson 55

    You’re right T-rex. We all know you’re not going to achieve anything by Monday; so why the histrionics? Why the empty threats of “burning” a bunch of Labour MPs? The “other problem with the blogosphere” is actually the same problem. People thing being online and making grand declarations actually achieves something in itself. In reality, it’s mostly a little circle of people who are largely in agreement and a few, like some clown called “whaleoil” who everyone else spends their time waging war against. It’s like a battle of the egotists and degenerates very quickly if people don’t keep a sense of perspective.

    As for the media, if you write a good press release, there’s a remote chance some media outlet might pick it up. Given the deafening silence on this from the media so far, I think the chances are very remote. We don’t have some kind of “accessible” “free press”, we have a private press, owned by huge corporations, whose interests coincide by and large with organisations like the Labour and National parties. I was at a meeting on Wednesday organised by a guy who’s been involved in anti-surveillance and draconianism stuff for about 40 years. He pointed out that the main reason they were touring an overseas speaker around the country was that the NZ media simply aren’t interested otherwise. As he put it, she got coverage; he would be told to write a letter to the editor.

    New Zealand is not on the brink of massive (revolutionary even) social transformation – unfortunately. So keep up the good fight against this piece of legislation, but enough with the hyperbole. Otherwise, the only person who’ll end up burnt will be you – burnt out, when nothing seems to happen.

  55. T-rex 56

    You’re a good Voice of Reason John, and I agree everything you say is almost certainly true.

    Still, got to have a crack.

    To clarify, I’m not trying to “burn a bunch of labour MP’s”. It’s more that I can see that, if this does turn into something big, they will get burnt by it if they’re supporting it. And I’d rather they didn’t.

    re: free press – meh, I’ll just persuade some turkish guys to hack ‘Stuff’ and put it on the front page 🙂

    Maybe we could brand it with cocacola. “Coke – The drink of people who aren’t filthy police state proponents”.

  56. T-rex 57

    p.s. – Don’t worry, people have been telling me I’m going to burn out for YEARS. It only happens very occasionally, and just means I go drink beer in the sun for a bit 🙂

  57. rave 58

    T-Bone:
    “Burning a bunch of MPs” means the electorates need to know what their MPs are promising to do to them. There is no sign that Labour Voters out there even know that this Bill will send the IS searching for overstayers. If T-Bone and co could get this thing publicised this would warn people about Dawn Raids 2 and call MPs to account. This may not work, but at least its making Labour MPs think about the rights of those that vote for them.

    John Edmundson:
    Don’t be so pessimistic about Labour supporters challenging their MPs. The recent EU decision to throw out migrants has created a huge stink in Latin America where for 500 years they have taken in Euro white trash. I look forward to the Workers Party rallying the unions in working class electorates against Dawn Raids 2.

    Stever Pierson:
    We need to link all this stuff together. The closing of borders to migrants is a measure to control workers who are starting to rise up against wars and poverty. Its like closing down the punishment wings of the jails to control rioting prisoners.

    Demonising and terrorising migrant workers who are resisting the attacks of big oil and big business has to be resisted. The real terrorists are those who move their capital and armies and political prisoners across borders without barriers.

    That’s why we have to combine demands for living wages, controls on prices of food and fuel with demands for freedom of movement. Otherwise as soon as we stand up to fight for affordable food and fuel, we’ll have some of our best fighters end up in jail, deported or rendered.

  58. Ari 59

    Well, I’ve sent off my letters pretty much politely saying “I’m not going to support you at all if this thing passes.” I’ll send one off to Dunne in a bit, too.

    What else is worth doing before the weekend?

  59. T-rex 60

    Ari – Good on you!

    I’ve done likewise (with a slightly broader assurance along the lines of “I’m going to try and make sure no one supports you if this thing passes”). I’m trying to create something that’s slightly easier to digest than the existing summaries (thanks I/S) and will hopefully have it ready to be distributed on monday.

    Before the weekend? Try and become familiar with a few key points, and mention them to people? I can’t imagine many people will support it, it’s simply a matter of their realising it exists.

    Cheers.

  60. rave. yeah in a perfect world we’d be in a post-State, post-capitalist system with multi-level sovereignty – based on a recognition that sovereignty arises from the individual and various elements of it are delegated to communities, to regions, to global level …. but we’re quite a way from that and having a rant about that is not going to help moderate the current discourse.

  61. rave 62

    Steve the current discourse is couched in terms of individual rights. We have here a few individuals writing blogs and sending letters. The reality is that this Bill is not directed at individuals as such but is part of a concerted attack on workers rights. Bosses’ are not at all worried about their citizenship rights except in an abstract sense like British MP David Davis. All I am asking right now is not to time travel into the perfect future but raise the need to oppose this in the unions and in the electorates. That’s the only way that any changes will happen. What I am suggesting right now is not that we time travel into the perfect future but raise the urgency of opposing this in the unions and in the electorates before it gets passed. That’s the only way that any changes will happen. In this I an an optimist and not a pessimist because I know what workers are capable of when mobilised.

  62. Rave, you’re absolutely right. What ever happened to workers internationalism?

  63. T-rex 64

    Hi all,

    I need a website/blog/whatever to provide a place for people to register opposition to this terrible bill.

    It needs to be as simple as hell. I can provide a concept.

    All I want is basically a completely black page with “record your details here to indicate your opposition to the immigration bill’s attack on human rights” in the middle. Under that, a box for a name that people can fill in. If under that we could have a huge scrolling list of all names so far that would be awesome, but I’m not greedy – just a counter would be fine.

    At the bottom, how about: “New Zealand is a free country. Let’s keep it that way”

    Can anyone help? I’ll have a shot at it tomorrow if not, but I’ve never done it before, will be a bit of learning. Busy with the publicity material for now.

  64. T-rex 65

    Ok, for now we are http://www.stopthebill.wordpress.com

    Better ideas and web-design expertise still welcome.

  65. rave 66

    Well done T-Rex needs some supercharged people to do this. Will help with the blog in any way I can.
    What about campaign logos. Dawn Raids 2 Rendition would get at the attack on NZ citizens rights and provide a lead into all the other attacks.

  66. Jennifer 67

    You mention Human Rights? Perhaps you should converse with Labour MP Anjem Choudry about Human Rights. Last time I saw that man (for want of a better word) on television he was trying to convince us that stoning to death for adultery was OK, just not in NZ of course. ( His appearance came after the worldwide controversy about the stoning a Saudi woman).

    That is the last time me and many many of my friends will ever vote for Labour. I realise he is only with Labour to capture the muslim vote, but all he did, fortunately, was turn a lot of people off. I see he is still with you – what uneducated selection board chose a neanderthal like that to represent Kiwis who mostly find Sharia law totally abhorrent. Being tolerant to the intolerant gets you in hot water.

    Any party or bill that negates NZ ending up like Britain who cannot get rid of terrorist leeches because of overtolerant western attitudes, whose taxpayers are forced to financially support these dissidents and their abnormally large families who have a high overrepresentation of intellectually/physically handicapped children)gets my tick.

    Having lived (as a married white woman) in two Islamic countries and visited many more I would suggest the Labour party do a bit more homework on issues such as this.

    However, I do find it funny to think of Mr. Choudry having to associate (and Gasp! – maybe even having to shake hands with) so many of those that his ideology hangs, throws from rooftops, pushes walls on top of – can’t think how the poor chap sleeps at night. What a party of hypocrites!

    Even funnier was the time when NZ posted a female to Malaysia as our defence liason representative. (Under a Labour govt. of course)

  67. T-rex 68

    Great to have you here Jennifer, always welcome lucid and cogent arguments.

    Those damn im’grints and their abnormally large handicapped families… gosh, I just don’t know how we’ve made it this far!

    Basically you think that persecution is a terrible thing… yet you’re damned if you’re going to let anyone being persecuted escape from it. You’re the hypocrite.

  68. T-rex 69

    Ok!

    I have what is probably, without an ounce of ego, the single best protest movie ever made.

    maybe a few ounces of ego.

    ounces, tons, who’s counting right?

    Anyway, I still need ideas for what to actually put ON the site once people go there.

    If we’ve got a whole lot of horrified people, who want to do something very quick and simple – what do we give them?

    A form email would be ideal – who knows how to do that?

    That, and a big list of people who oppose it. One of those “enter your email address and you’ll be sent a confirmation link” things.

    I’d like to release the movie tomorrow night, which means there needs to be something working by then.

  69. T-rex 70

    Almost ready to go.

    I’m just creating a petition statement – opinions of the below please?

    We call upon the elected officials of the New Zealand Government to withdraw all support for the Immigration Bill. We feel it grants unchecked power to government, and should not be allowed while it continues to attack basic freedoms, attack natural justice, and violate universal human rights.

  70. Looks good to me.

  71. T-rex 72

    Cheers ‘Sod, going with it.

  72. T-rex 73

    Right, http://www.stopthebill.wordpress.com is now ready to use.

    There is a link to a petition.

    I have a video ready to go, just taking final thoughts to consider.

    I have written some brief summaries of worrying elements of the bill (well – written/shamelessly copied). These can be accessed under the “brief summary” links section on the right of the page.

    If anyone wants to write a summary of another element, please feel free to do so and post it in the comments section on the main page. I’ll make it into another page and place the link. I’m just tired, so i’m stopping for now.

    All the people above who said they thought the Immigration Bill was a terrible idea, please go to the site and sign the petition.

    Standardistas – if you could have a post tomorrow morning directing attention to the site that would be great. Steve – I’ll send you a copy of the video once it’s final.

    Anyone else who wants it, feel free to rip it and send it far and wide. I’m going to start emailing it all directions tomorrow morning, as well as to the various media/human rights groups.

    Cheers.

  73. Steve: any chance your partner would volunteer for her story and still photo to be used in an ad? Alternatively, if you know anyone else in that situation who might be willing…

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    1 week ago
  • PSA: NZ's Richest Company, Zuru, Sucks
    Hi,Today the New Zealand press is breathlessly reporting that the owners of toy company Zuru are officially New Zealand’s wealthiest people: Mat and Nick Mowbray worth an estimated $20 billion between them.While the New Zealand press loses its shit celebrating this Kiwi success story, this is a Webworm reminder that ...
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  • School attendance increases
    School attendance data released today shows an increase in the number of students regularly attending school to 61.7 per cent in term one. This compares to 59.5 per cent in term one last year and 53.6 per cent in term four. “It is encouraging to see more children getting to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago
  • Record investment in public transport services
    The Government has announced a record 41 per cent increase in indicative funding for public transport services and operations, and confirmed the rollout of the National Ticketing Solution (NTS) that will enable contactless debit and credit card payments starting this year in Auckland, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“This Government is ...
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    5 hours ago
  • GDP data shows need to strengthen and grow the economy
    GDP figures for the March quarter reinforce the importance of restoring fiscal discipline to public spending and driving more economic growth, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says.  Data released today by Stats NZ shows GDP has risen 0.2 per cent for the quarter to March.   “While today’s data is technically in ...
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    6 hours ago
  • Women continue to make up over 50 per cent on public sector boards
    Women’s representation on public sector boards and committees has reached 50 per cent or above for the fourth consecutive year, with women holding 53.9 per cent of public sector board roles, Acting Minister for Women Louise Upston says. “This is a fantastic achievement, but the work is not done. To ...
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    9 hours ago
  • Government supporting Māori business success
    The Coalition Government is supporting Māori to boost development and the Māori economy through investment in projects that benefit the regions, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones and Māori Development Minister Tama Potaka say. “As the Regional Development Minister, I am focused on supporting Māori to succeed. The Provincial Growth Fund ...
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    9 hours ago
  • Better solutions for earthquake-prone buildings
    Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk has announced that the review into better managing the risks of earthquake-prone buildings has commenced. “The terms of reference published today demonstrate the Government’s commitment to ensuring we get the balance right between public safety and costs to building owners,” Mr Penk says.  “The Government ...
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    11 hours ago
  • Prime Minister wraps up visit to Japan
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has just finished a successful three-day visit to Japan, where he strengthened political relationships and boosted business links. Mr Luxon’s visit culminated in a bilateral meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Kishida Fumio followed by a state dinner. “It was important for me to meet Prime Minister Kishida in person ...
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    18 hours ago
  • Major business deals signed on PM’s Japan trip
    Significant business deals have been closed during the visit of Prime Minister Christopher Luxon to Japan this week, including in the areas of space, renewable energy and investment.  “Commercial deals like this demonstrate that we don’t just export high-quality agricultural products to Japan, but also our world-class technology, expertise, and ...
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    1 day ago
  • Strategic Security speech, Tokyo
    Minasan, konnichiwa, kia ora and good afternoon everyone. Thank you for the invitation to speak to you today and thank you to our friends at the Institute for International Socio-Economic Studies and NEC for making this event possible today.  It gives me great pleasure to be here today, speaking with ...
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    1 day ago
  • National Infrastructure Pipeline worth over $120 billion
    The National Infrastructure Pipeline, which provides a national view of current or planned infrastructure projects, from roads, to water infrastructure, to schools, and more, has climbed above $120 billion, Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop says. “Our Government is investing a record amount in modern infrastructure that Kiwis can rely on as ...
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    1 day ago
  • Making it easier to build infrastructure
    The Government is modernising the Public Works Act to make it easier to build infrastructure, Minister for Land Information Chris Penk announced today. An independent panel will undertake an eight-week review of the Act and advise on common sense changes to enable large scale public works to be built faster and ...
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    2 days ago
  • NZ enhances North Korea sanctions monitoring
    New Zealand will enhance its defence contributions to monitoring violations of sanctions against North Korea, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today.  The enhancement will see the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) increase its contributions to North Korea sanctions monitoring, operating out of Japan. “This increase reflects the importance New Zealand ...
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    2 days ago
  • Speech to Safeguard National Health and Safety Conference
    Good afternoon everyone. It’s great to be with you all today before we wrap up Day One of the annual Safeguard National Health and Safety Conference. Thank you to the organisers and sponsors of this conference, for the chance to talk to you about the upcoming health and safety consultation. ...
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    2 days ago
  • Ōtaki to north of Levin alliance agreements signed
    Transport Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone for the Ōtaki to north of Levin Road of National Significance (RoNS), following the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) signing interim alliance agreements with two design and construction teams who will develop and ultimately build the new expressway.“The Government’s priority for transport ...
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    2 days ago
  • Improvements to stopping Digital Child Exploitation
    The Department of Internal Affairs [Department] is making a significant upgrade to their Digital Child Exploitation Filtering System, which blocks access to websites known to host child sexual abuse material, says Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden.  “The Department will incorporate the up-to-date lists of websites hosting child sexual ...
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    2 days ago
  • New vaccine research aims to combat prevalent bovine disease
    A vaccine to prevent an infectious disease that costs New Zealand cattle farmers more than $190 million each year could radically improve the health of our cows and boost on-farm productivity, Associate Agriculture Minister Andrew Hoggard says. The Ministry for Primary Industries is backing a project that aims to develop ...
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    2 days ago
  • Making it easier to build granny flats
    The Government has today announced that it is making it easier for people to build granny flats, Acting Prime Minister Winston Peters and RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop say. “Making it easier to build granny flats will make it more affordable for families to live the way that suits them ...
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    3 days ago
  • High Court Judge appointed
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Auckland King’s Counsel Gregory Peter Blanchard as a High Court Judge. Justice Blanchard attended the University of Auckland from 1991 to 1995, graduating with an LLB (Honours) and Bachelor of Arts (English). He was a solicitor with the firm that is now Dentons ...
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    6 days ago
  • Health workforce numbers rise
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says new data released today shows encouraging growth in the health workforce, with a continued increase in the numbers of doctors, nurses and midwives joining Health New Zealand. “Frontline healthcare workers are the beating heart of the healthcare system. Increasing and retaining our health workforce ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government to overhaul firearms laws
    Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee has today announced a comprehensive programme to reform New Zealand's outdated and complicated firearms laws. “The Arms Act has been in place for over 40 years. It has been amended several times – in a piecemeal, and sometimes rushed way. This has resulted in outdated ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government delivers landmark specialist schools investment
    The coalition Government is delivering record levels of targeted investment in specialist schools so children with additional needs can thrive. As part of Budget 24, $89 million has been ringfenced to redevelop specialist facilities and increase satellite classrooms for students with high needs. This includes: $63 million in depreciation funding ...
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    6 days ago
  • Major health and safety consultation begins
    A substantial consultation on work health and safety will begin today with a roadshow across the regions over the coming months, says Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden.  This the first step to deliver on the commitment to reforming health and safety law and regulations, set out in ...
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    6 days ago
  • Growing the potential of New Zealand’s forestry sector in partnership
    Forestry Minister Todd McClay, today announced the start of the Government’s plan to restore certainty and confidence in the forestry and wood processing sector. “This government will drive investment to unlock the industry’s economic potential for growth,” Mr McClay says. “Forestry’s success is critical to rebuilding New Zealand’s economy, boosting ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government cancels forestry ETS annual service charges for 2023-24
    Annual service charges in the forestry Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) will be cancelled for 2023/24, Forestry Minister Todd McClay says. “The sector has told me the costs imposed on forestry owners by the previous government were excessive and unreasonable and I agree,” Mr McClay says. “They have said that there ...
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    6 days ago
  • Speech to the LGNZ Infrastructure Symposium
    Introduction Thank you for having me here today and welcome to Wellington, the home of the Hurricanes, the next Super Rugby champions. Infrastructure – the challenge This government has inherited a series of big challenges in infrastructure. I don’t need to tell an audience as smart as this one that ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government boosts Agriculture and food trade with China
    Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Food Safety Minister Andrew Hoggard welcomed outcomes to boost agricultural and food trade between New Zealand and China. A number of documents were signed today at Government House that will improve the business environment between New Zealand and China, and help reduce barriers, including on infant formula ...
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    7 days ago
  • NZ and China launch Services Trade Negotiations
    Trade Minister Todd McClay, and China’s Commerce Minister Wang Wentao, today announced the official launch of Negotiations on Services Trade between the two countries.  “The Government is focused on opening doors for services exporters to grow the New Zealand’s economy,” Mr McClay says.  As part of the 2022 New Zealand-China Free Trade Agreement Upgrade ...
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    7 days ago
  • Prime Minister Luxon meets with Premier Li
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon met with Chinese Premier Li Qiang at Government House in Wellington today.  “I was pleased to welcome Premier Li to Wellington for his first official visit, which marks 10 years since New Zealand and China established a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership,” Mr Luxon says. “The Premier and ...
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    7 days ago
  • Government and business tackling gender pay gap
    The coalition Government is taking action to reduce the gender pay gap in New Zealand through the development of a voluntary calculation tool. “Gender pay gaps have impacted women for decades, which is why we need to continue to drive change in New Zealand,” Acting Minister for Women Louise Upston ...
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    1 week ago
  • Funding Boost for Rural Support Trusts
    The coalition Government is boosting funding for Rural Support Trusts to provide more help to farmers and growers under pressure, Rural Communities Minister Mark Patterson announced today. “A strong and thriving agricultural sector is crucial to the New Zealand economy and one of the ways to support it is to ...
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  • Latest data shows size of public service decreasing
    Spending on contractors and consultants continues to fall and the size of the Public Service workforce has started to decrease after years of growth, according to the latest data released today by the Public Service Commission. Workforce data for the quarter from 31 December 23 to 31 March 24 shows ...
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    1 week ago
  • Speech to the Law Association
    Thank you to the Law Association for inviting me to speak this morning. As a former president under its previous name — the Auckland District Law Society — I take particular satisfaction in seeing this organisation, and its members, in such good heart. As Attorney-General, I am grateful for these ...
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    1 week ago
  • 25 years on, NZ reaffirms enduring friendship with Timor Leste
    New Zealand is committed to working closely with Timor-Leste to support its prosperity and resilience, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “This year is the 25th anniversary of New Zealand sending peacekeepers to Timor-Leste, who contributed to the country’s stabilisation and ultimately its independence,” Mr Peters says.    “A quarter ...
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    1 week ago
  • Inquiry requested into rural banking
    Promoting robust competition in the banking sector is vital to rebuilding the economy, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says.  “New Zealanders deserve a banking sector that is as competitive as possible. Banking services play an important role in our communities and in the economy. Kiwis rely on access to lending when ...
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    1 week ago
  • Ministry for Regulation targets red tape to keep farmers and growers competitive
    Regulation Minister David Seymour, Environment Minister Penny Simmonds, and Food Safety Minister Andrew Hoggard have today announced a regulatory sector review on the approval process for new agricultural and horticultural products.    “Red tape stops farmers and growers from getting access to products that have been approved by other OECD countries. ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government to reverse blanket speed limit reductions
    The Coalition Government will reverse Labour’s blanket speed limit reductions by 1 July 2025 through a new Land Transport Rule released for public consultation today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  The draft speed limit rule will deliver on the National-ACT coalition commitment to reverse the previous government’s blanket speed limit ...
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    1 week ago
  • Chair appointments for NZSO, CNZ and NZ On Air
    Minister Paul Goldsmith is making major leadership changes within both his Arts and Media portfolios. “I am delighted to announce Carmel Walsh will be officially stepping into the role of Chair of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra, having been acting Chair since April,” Arts Minister Paul Goldsmith says.  “Carmel is ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government focus on long-term food, fibre growth
    Food and fibre export revenue is tipped to reach $54.6 billion this year and hit a record $66.6b in 2028 as the Government focuses on getting better access to markets and cutting red tape, Agriculture Minister Todd McClay and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones say. “This achievement is testament ...
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    1 week ago
  • Govt consulting on cutting red tape for exporters
    A new export exemption proposal for food businesses demonstrates the coalition Government’s commitment to reducing regulatory barriers for industry and increasing the value of New Zealand exports, which gets safe New Zealand food to more markets, says Food Safety Minister Andrew Hoggard.  “The coalition Government has listened to the concerns ...
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    1 week ago
  • New Zealand and Philippines elevating relationship
    New Zealand and Philippines are continuing to elevate our relationship, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “The leaders of New Zealand and Philippines agreed in April 2024 to lift our relationship to a Comprehensive Partnership by 2026,” Mr Peters says. “Our visit to Manila this week has been an excellent ...
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    1 week ago

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