Duck Futton

Written By: - Date published: 4:59 pm, July 19th, 2018 - 46 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, Andrew Little, australian politics, International, Politics, racism - Tags:

The Australians are upset with Andrew Little and are throwing Donald Trump type tantrums to show their displeasure.

What has he done to attract their displeasure?  He accused the Australian Government of having a deportation policy with what appears to have a venal, political strain.

The policy relates to a 2014 law change which increased the Minister of Immigration’s powers to cancel the visas of Kiwis, including those who have lived in Australia for extended periods of time who who are deemed are not of “good character”.

The change of policy has meant that many kiwis have been thrown into custody, separated from family and removed to a country they may not have any links with.

The cases are numerous but include a 17 year old held in an adult detention centre for non violent offending against International Treaties protecting young people, as well as the case of Ko Hapua and Lee Tepuia, both who were deported because they belonged to motorcycle gangs that were not actually illegal.

Tepuia’s case in particular is jaw dropping.  He had lived in Australia since 2005 and his youngest daughter was an Australian.  His forcible removal from his wife and four children has had a devastating effect on him.

And he kept winning in Court yet despite this Dutton kept cancelling his visa and not telling him why.

When you also consider the appalling treatment that refugees have been subject to in Nauru you get an overwhelming feeling that people are being harassed and humiliated by Dutton and Co for political gain.

It is strange that the welcome mat should be laid out for South African farmers.  I wonder what characteristic they have which refugees and kiwis being deported don’t have?

Dutton’s response to criticism suggesting that the motivation may have been just a tiny bit racist is typical of him.  The following is from this Radio New Zealand article:

A day after Mr Dutton publicly revealed the plans, Canberra’s High Commissioner in South Africa was hauled in for a diplomatic ticking off.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale also labelled the Minister “racist” and argued the resettlement would amount to a return to the White Australia policy.

Mr Dutton said he was unfazed by the commentary.

“There’s lots of outrage from some of the crazy lefties at the ABC, The Guardian and The Huffington Post can express concern and draw mean cartoons about me and all the rest of it – they don’t realise how completely dead they are to me,” he said.

“That’s the reality; if people think I’m going to cower or take a backwards step because of the nonsense fabricated fake news criticism, then they’ve got another thing coming.”

His response to Little’s very valid critisism also reveals a lot about his character:

Speaking to 2GB’s Ray Hadley in Australia today, Dutton said Little might want to “reflect a little more” on the trans-Tasman relationship.

“There’s a lot that we do for New Zealand … . We’re a big land mass between them and boats coming from Indonesia and Southeast Asia,” Dutton said.

“New Zealand don’t contribute really anything to the defence effort that we’ve got where we’re trying to surveil boats that might be on their way to New Zealand. So I hope that Andrew Little reflects a little more on the relationship between Australia and New Zealand where we do a lot of the heavy lifting. We intercept boats which stop them from making their way to New Zealand.

“There’s a lot to this relationship and I was really disappointed in Mr Little’s comments during the week. I hope that he doesn’t repeat them,” Dutton said.

I hope that Little does repeat what he said.  His comments were a completely accurate assessment of Australia’s current policy.  And Australia’s treatment of Kiwis as well as refugees is utterly appalling.

46 comments on “Duck Futton ”

  1. Naki man 1

    Luck Fittle
    Good on the Australians trying to protect their people from these criminal scumbags.

    • mickysavage 1.1

      Did you read and understand the post? Two of the people mentioned were being extradited because they were in the wrong gang. If they were in the Liberal Party I am sure they would have been ok.

    • patricia bremner 1.2

      Naki man, discuss the idea or action why don’t you?

      Oh that’s right, there isn’t any excuse for Dutton breaking International Treaties his Government has signed, much easier for you to insult a good decent man.

      Some extradited have’nt broken any law or been convicted, so are not “criminals”.

    • JC 1.3

      Yer right Man from the Naki … ever been on a boat …. One that plans to travel 4000 N Miles. Get a grip!

      “New Zealand’s man in Jakarta, Ambassador David Taylor, is skeptical a boat could get through. “The only time I can think of that someone got from Indonesia to New Zealand in a leaky boat was Abel Tasman back in 1642 and it took him six months.”

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10081263/Desperate-bid-to-reach-New-Zealand

  2. The Fairy Godmother 2

    The point is these “criminals are Australian made. Many having lived there most of their lives. It’s politically and racially motivated. Trumpesque in fact.

  3. bwaghorn 3

    “There’s a lot that we do for New Zealand … . We’re a big land mass between them and boats coming from Indonesia and Southeast Asia,” Dutton said.””

    Pretty fucking awesome of dutton to have Australia placed between us and the Asian hordes

    • Tricledrown 3.1

      We pay plenty as well our Aussie owned bank’s take $5billion tax free profits which the Australian govt gets 30% $1to$1.5 billion tax NZr’s pay just the banks alone.
      The figure for all Australian companies not paying tax in NZ is probably $5 billion going in taxes from NZ to the Australian govt.
      So we are paying our way.

      • WILD KATIPO 3.1.1

        Agreed, – the Australians have a cheek in the first place, – Isn’t it 90% of our former banks they now own? Who let them do this ? That country bleeds this country dry and then has the cheek to say we don’t pull our weight.

        We should nationalize those banks ,… maybe that would somewhat stifle some of the arrogant assertions of Dutton and his mates.

    • JC 3.2

      Yer right Big W … ever been on a boat …. One that plans to travel 4000 N Miles. Get a grip!

      “New Zealand’s man in Jakarta, Ambassador David Taylor, is skeptical a boat could get through. “The only time I can think of that someone got from Indonesia to New Zealand in a leaky boat was Abel Tasman back in 1642 and it took him six months.”

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10081263/Desperate-bid-to-reach-New-Zealand

    • bwaghorn 3.3

      I was taking the piss out of dutton for claiming to have placed island of Australia between us and them .
      But if you have to explain your joke it obviously didn’t work.

  4. Ad 4

    Little had better watch his step; Australia is more powerful than us, does not need us, and enables us to sustain otherwise unsustainable ideals. If we haven’t liked the withdrawal of favours over the last 10 years, we will certainly hate it if they really turn against us at a federal level.

    We also have to face the fact that too many New Zealanders in Australia are criminals that damage our overall reputation. Australia is not complaining that we are buying too many of their houses, or owning too many of their businesses, or filling up their judicial benches, or dominating them in any way at all. Instead they are complaining about New Zealand criminals.

    Australia is not going to play fair and there are plenty of ways we could get hurt.

    • patricia bremner 4.1

      Wow Ad, so we let them get away with this rubbish??

      • Ad 4.1.1

        I would follow Prime Minister Ardern’s example.
        And would encourage Little to do the same.

        • patricia bremner 4.1.1.1

          I’m over here and the Aussies by and large think “Dutton’s a dick” quote.
          Recently it was stated NZ citizens earned higher here than their Aussie cousins on average (on the radio).
          So I don’t think we have that many crims in Aus though it looks bad or it is we are targetted?

          • Exkiwiforces 4.1.1.1.1

            I’ll second the motion that Dutton is a dick and in fact he comes across the giggle box as having the mad monks hand up his ass to give himself some backbone when he speaks.

        • the other pat 4.1.1.2

          so when Duttons being a dickhead,,,,a “racist” and a bully we should just kow tow and say velly good massa??……when self interest comes ahead of common decency you get shit like we have now!

    • Morrissey 4.2

      …too many New Zealanders in Australia are criminals that damage our overall reputation.

      What evidence do you have for that statement, other than the assurances of the internationally condemned Australian regime?

      • Ad 4.2.1

        By October 2015 were were already the second largest nationality detained in Australia for criminal offenses.

        In July 2016, 1,577 people were held in these detention centres. 199 of those were from New Zealand. That made us the biggest group held in Australian detention centres.

        44% of NZ-origin convicted criminals forced to leave Australia, come here and offend again.

        Now, we can make all the conspiratorial excuses we like, or blame something about the rules, but the fact is precisely as I wrote it: too many New Zealanders in Australia are criminals that damage our overall reputation. Which is always the case with criminals.

        • Tricledrown 4.2.1.1

          New Zealanders in Australia probably have much lower rates than aussie.
          Same when they cut unemployement benefits kiwis had the lowest unemployment rates of any ethnicity including Aussie.
          This is cheap policy relying on Nationalism.
          Look at Australian sports teams they don’t play fair.

          • Ad 4.2.1.1.1

            Entirely possible that they aren’t fair.

            Alternatively, that’s a weak-assed excuse for not being able to look squarely in our own national mirror and state what is going wrong.

        • Nic the NZer 4.2.1.2

          Nice job on conflating people being held in detention centres, sometimes without having a criminal conviction, with people being detained by Australia for criminal convictions.

          Care to provide some actual evidence though?

    • Naki man 4.3

      Exactly Little needs to pull his head in. He is still acting like a union thug.

    • Ad ,… the big question mark is the Australian govt holding out their hands for ex pat New Zealanders taxes which they pay to Canberra , – and yet those ex pats are denied realistic paths to citizenship , student loans, pensions , health and myriad of other basic services that we as New Zealanders offer their ex pats.

      Certain Australian leaders are nothing more than a bunch of malicious, grabastic bludging bastards.

      We could start by demanding their company’s start to shoulder their fair share of the tax load to offset their abuses. And start to pay decent wages instead of taking advantage of the 3 decade long neo liberal wage freeze.

    • RedLogix 4.5

      Yup. It’s why NZ should join the Federation. It won’t happen in my lifetime, we’re far too convinced of our moral superiority.

  5. BM 5

    LIttle has to be the dumbest politician of all time.
    Having said that I do look forward to him taking the reins from Ardern.

    Majority rule beckons for National in 2020, if only someone would stab Bridges in the face/front, everything would be golden. 😈

    • mickysavage 5.1

      Why? Because he will not engage in a bit of crim bashing?

      You mean all our politicians should just wait for the population to froth up and then feed them raw meat every time there is a mention of crime?

      • BM 5.1.1

        MS the Ockers own our media, it’s shit but that’s the way it currently is.

        As that saying goes don’t fight with people who buy ink by the barrel or in this case own all the ink.

        The complete lack of awareness is what bothers me the most about Little.

        • mickysavage 5.1.1.1

          I suspect that Kiwis will respond fine to our Government telling the Aussies they are being idiots.

          • BM 5.1.1.1.1

            Pick a fight you can’t win, that’s what the smart politician would do 🙄

          • RedLogix 5.1.1.1.2

            Turnbulls govt is generally irritating and regressive, and I support Little’s willingness to stand up to Dutton’s dickery, but politically criminals and people engaging with marginal dumbass gangs are tough to argue for.

            Most kiwis here work hard and do very well for themselves. We have the highest employment rate of any immigrant group by far. But the rules should be plain enough by now, we are essentially guest workers in Australia. Screw up and it’s game over.

            • WILD KATIPO 5.1.1.1.2.1

              Aside from all that ,… what about this business of Canberra holding out their hands for taxes then not reciprocating in a realistic pathway to citizenship or even access to vital services in case of illness, redundancy , student loans etc?

              Bludgers much ?

              • RedLogix

                @WK

                Agreed, that would make a far sounder ground for Little to negotiate on. Kiwis in Australia are essentially temporary workers, but taxed as permanent residents.

                In my case I remain a Tax Resident of NZ, but the ATO gets the dosh.

    • Tricledrown 5.2

      BM like a Trump shower

  6. I know of deportees whose only crime was to have accessed Australian Mental health services, they all share one common similarity, their Maori or Pacific Island heritage.

    • mpledger 6.1

      It would be really interesting to see deportees to NZ by ethnicity – Russell Crowe hasn’t been deported for bad character and he’s been arrested and in brawls.

  7. William 7

    “New Zealand don’t contribute really anything to the defence effort that we’ve got where we’re trying to surveil boats that might be on their way to New Zealand.”

    If a boat is on its way to New Zealand and passing through Australian territorial waters, under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea the Australians are obliged to allow freedom of navigation. Anything else is surely state sponsored piracy.

    • Brutus Iscariot 7.1

      Right – we should just give them your address then. Thank god for the Tasman.

  8. Al 8

    New Zealanders have been getting a bum deal from the Aussies for a long time now. New Zealand should impose the exact same conditions on Australians here as they do on Kiwi’s over there – end of story. As for the comment about intercepting the boats from Asia – let them come. Most possible boat people are smart enough to know they wouldn’t make it here – but if they did they would be treated a damned sight better than Australia – I am surprised the Aussies aren’t trying to build a wall!

    • Nationalize the banks, give an ultimatum to their company’s here to pay up their fair share of tax and pay proper wages, – and then , – if the message hasn’t been driven home clearly enough , impose the same conditions on their ex pats as they do on ours.

      You want to act like a mongrel bastard then you get treated like one.

  9. Brutus Iscariot 9

    Ultimately the Australian government is answerable to its own citizens. Their feeling will be that Australia has been used as a safety valve for New Zealand’s reprobates – a new take on Muldoon’s “raising the IQ of both countries” line.

    The disappointing part of this whole affair is that we are now effectively receiving Australia’s excrement, like the Gold Coast King Hitter. I expect this will show up in the local crime statistics over the next couple of years.

  10. Delia 10

    You know we have just got to forget about them, a bit like an ex partner. They legally can send home those with NZ citizenship and we have to wear it. Does not mean we have to bother with Australia or like it. It is not just Dutton, his govt approves of his policy and Shorten says little opposing it…..so bye bye cousins.

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