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Free Speech Coalition’s litigation strikes a major snag

Written By: - Date published: 7:59 am, July 17th, 2018 - 138 comments
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The free speech coalition’s desire to get the High Court to insist on the perfect system of the freedom of expression, where ideas can escape and soar and come into contact with other ideas and then be subject to civilised battle which will ensure that only the best and most meritorious of ideas will succeed, has struck a potential snag. A rather major snag.

The problem could be that the decision to prevent Auckland from being exposed to Lauren Southern’s ideas may have been motivated by bureaucratic rather than political considerations.

From Todd Niall at Stuff:

The Free Speech Coalition says it wants to “clarify” the role of Auckland Mayor Phil Goff in the banning of two controversial speakers from a council venue, before it launches legal action.

The coalition was formed days after the booking by Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux was cancelled, and has raised $90,000 to seek a judicial review.

Members of the group have publicly questioned the right of the mayor to make a politically-based decision.

The group is now seeking clarity, after Goff told TVNZ’s Q and A programme, his comments had followed the advice of the council agency that had already taken the move to cancel the pair’s booking at the Bruce Mason Centre next month.

“Today the group’s lawyers are writing to the council to clarify the mayor’s conflicting statements to media about whose decision it was to ban the speakers, and the reasons for the ban,” the coalition said in a statement.

I have no idea what was the timing of the matter or who actually made the decision. The lawyers can sort this out. But this could cause a rather large problem for the Free Speech protagonists. An officer wanting to prevent damage to a public building is entirely different to the Mayor deciding to stop people using the facility, even if they are fascists.

Meanwhile there continues to be an intense debate on the left amongst those who think that the right to freedom of speech should be sacrosanct and those who thinks that punching a fascist can occasionally be justified.

Sure the contest of ideas is important. But it appears that Southern and Molyneux were not that interested in there being an open informed debate when you consider the terms on which they expected you to agree before letting you into listen to them.

And dang it but this leftie thinks that we should not have to allow publicly provided facilities to be used for the propagation of monetised hate speech with strict entry requirements.  Especially if they have in the past deliberately picked fights with muslims and acted to disrupt the efforts of others to save refugees from drowning.

138 comments on “Free Speech Coalition’s litigation strikes a major snag”

  1. tc 1

    This whole situation is engineered outrage by the msm and enablers. Shows how desperate they are to bring the hate mongers to town.

    Wuperts news Corp have been taking up her ‘cause’ across the ditch as southern and her backers f’d up the inbound visa/entry red tape to prevent her access.

    Didn’t stop news Corp banging the free speech bucket as a distraction from southerns own failure to complete Australian immigration requirements.

    • Gosman 1.1

      Even if you are correct then people like Goff are idiots for allowing themselves to be played.

      • arkie 1.1.1

        I guess he comes across a bit better than those defending nazi apologists though

        • Gosman 1.1.1.1

          I see few, if any, people defending the views of Nazi apologists. Who are the people you think defend their views?

          • arkie 1.1.1.1.1

            I didn’t say defending their views Gosman. I mean defending their ‘free speech’.

            As for nazi apologia;

            There’s No Such Thing as Free Speech

            In this post, the commentator makes the claim of a Clean Wehrmacht. This is an old and disproven claim made by those seeking to minimise responsibility for the atrocities of the second world war.

            • marty mars 1.1.1.1.1.1

              + 1 sunlight destroys germs

            • Gosman 1.1.1.1.1.2

              That is right. They are defending the rights to free speech. Something it seems you don’t support.

              • arkie

                Their ‘free speech’ has not been infringed, and conflating their lack of a council-provided venue with their speech being censored is disingenuous at best.

                I don’t support fascists Gosman, why do you think they need defending?

                • Gosman

                  First of all how do you define Fascist? As far as I was aware the views of the two people involved are not specifically fascist. Thewy might share some ideas but that is not the same.

                  Second of all what is the purpose of free speech if not to allow unpleasant (to some) opinions to be aired?

                  • arkie

                    Puckish Rogue has kindly provided you a link to the wikipedia definition of fascism below. That’s probably a good place for you to start.

                    As to your second point (and a little louder this time as you keep missing the pertinent part); Southern and Molyneux HAVE NOT had their free speech infringed, their videos and radio shows continue have a global audience.

                    • dukeofurl

                      Thats right , their style of wedding cake hate speech continues everywhere, just their first choice of venue wasnt available.

                      baking a hate speech cake… now there is something you cant just order from your first choice of bakery either

                    • Old Girl

                      George Orwell’s comment on the word Fascism is not long and worth reading. He concludes:
                      ‘But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one — not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.’

                      http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc

                      One may not care for the opinions of Molyneaux or Southern but blocking or banning public expression of opinions is a slippery slope. There are those who would like to banish internet sites which publish alternative analysis and information.
                      There are also those who fund both sides of a conflict or potential divide in order to control both sides. A link to one of the discovered examples of this is below.
                      Something about this whole Molyneaux/ Southern farrago smells a bit iffy. Did they genuinely intend speaking here ?

                      https://www.commondreams.org/hambaconeggs

                    • MikeS

                      You’re a complete idiot. Throwing around terms like fascist when the people you’re calling fascist are not even close. Same as the lying author of this article.

                      Throwing out terms like fascist to anyone who has a differing viewpoint to your own is not only despicable it is also completely disrespectful to those who have fought (and some died) fighting against real fascists.

                      The author of this article seems to support Islam rather than those opposed to it, which would make the author anti gay, anti women and anti western values of freedom and democracy.

                      This place is becoming a joke, it certainly doesn’t seem to represent the views of the working class anymore. It’s not left wing, it’s an echo chamber for delusional idiots who believe things such as…

                      -Someone who is against the ideology of Islam is a fascist (when Islam itself is a obviously and unashamedly a fascist ideology)
                      – Islam (the ideology) and feminism are compatible…(sigh)
                      – Gender is a social construct. (Not according to actual real science)
                      – Anybody who tells the truth, if it might be uncomfortable to hear, is a fascist or racist or bigot or nazi.
                      – Equality of outcome should be striven for and is as worthy a goal as equality of opportunity
                      – Only white people can be racist
                      – multiculturalism leads to inclusiveness and harmony in society.
                      – Globalism is good, borders are bad.
                      – Think that Uber’s 79% gender pay gap is due to discrimination against women
                      etc
                      etc
                      etc

                      No wonder #walkaway is building such momentum.

              • spikeyboy

                Absolute rights dont exist anywhere. Rights are always tempered by societies. This site doesnt allow absolute free speech because of all the harm it would cause to it functioning in the way intended. It is better for it too. Internet bullies also have their rights curtailed because of the suicide and self harm they can cause. Only God has absolute rights. And since he/she isnt actually real…

              • lprent

                Gosman: There are no “rights to free speech” – you’d have to be an idiot to claim that exists.

                Show me the NZ legislation or even constitutional convention that supports that.

                The Bill of Rights Act supports “freedom of expression”, which I suppose you could view as being a super clause. However also doesn’t state that there is ANY requirement to support further than you bitching in a corner at home.

                Basically I think that you are just being a fool by trying to invent ‘right’ when it is simply a slogan lifted from a foreign constitution for a ‘right that simply doesn’t exist inside NZ law

                • MikeS

                  “Freedom of speech and expression are really important human rights.”
                  – The Human Rights Commission of NZ.

                  Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (to which NZ is a signatory) states

                  “everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference” and “everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice”.

                  You’d have to be a bit dim or have your head in the sand to read that and say that it doesn’t include freedom of speech.

                  Human rights don’t have to “exist inside NZ law” to exist.

                  Freedom of speech / expression are not absolute but they are still human rights.

                  The right to freedom of speech is not just a “slogan” taken from some foreign constitution, you’d have to be a fool to believe that.

              • simbit

                Fuck I hear more from fucken wanna-be Nazi’s (they’d never handle the early starts) than any other group. I blame Youtube and my clicks on hockey fights…

              • Tricledrown

                Goadboy Dogmaticly dog whistling on behalf of the ruling class.
                Fascists deliberately cause divisiness
                Gosman sailing close to the wind.

            • Gosman 1.1.1.1.1.3

              Nowhere did I make the claim the Wehrmacht was clean. What is clear is that Nazi party members in the Wehrmacht were very much in the minority.

              • arkie

                That’s irrelevant to the issue. Those fighting for NAZI Germany were fighting to defend the NAZI regime. To say that they are equivalent to those fighting AGAINST NAZISM is to say you support nazis.

                • Gosman

                  I explained my reasoning at the time. Go back and read what it was and stop misrepresenting my view.

                  • marty mars

                    arkie is correct and you are splitting hairs as anyone who followed or re-reads that thread knows. We aren’t as stupid as you think bub.

              • Bastables

                Bullshit the Wehrmacht was utterly created by the NAZI led government to expunge links to the old government.
                German staff officers and the minister of defence Bloomberg went ahead and drafted a personal oath to Hitler and had the entire Wehrmacht swear it. Never mind the inclusion of the NAZI swastika on every field and dress uniform as part of the German eagle badge. Quibbling about who’s a party member in order to ignore the Wehrmacht inherent nazism and it subsequent atrocities is such dribbling piffle.

        • Ross 1.1.1.2

          Arkie

          If you believe everything Goff says, more fool you. And free speech isnt a popularity contest. 🙂

          • marty mars 1.1.1.2.1

            And if you believe nothing he says then morer fooler youer.
            Is a popularity contest true free speech? Think about it…

          • lprent 1.1.1.2.2

            You’d be the fool.

            “free speech” simply doesn’t exist in NZ law.

            • Ross 1.1.1.2.2.1

              Freedom of expression is included in the NZ Bill of Rights Act. So, yes, free speech is legislated for here.

              http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM225513.html

              • McFlock

                check out section 4.

              • Dennis Frank

                Doesn’t actually use the expression free speech specifically, but I agree that the actual wording of the law means that. Or, more to the point, a court would be very likely to specify that it means that, were anyone to test the specificity of what it actually means via prosecution! The clause gives everyone the right to express “opinions of any kind in any form”.

                The question is whether the High Court decides the council breached this right, right? Since the clause does not limit the right of expression in any way, I suspect it will decide that the council had no right to limit someone’s right to express their opinion in a council venue.

                If so, the council ought to take the case to the Supreme Court. The other part of the situation that intrigues me is whether either court will find in favour of the council due to the two foreigners not being kiwi citizens. Don’t we routinely assume that our law only applies to our citizens?

                • McFlock

                  Even if they were cancelled because of their views, if the venue decided that a riot or even violent extraction (I’d be concerned about jerks thuming protestors as the protestors are kicked out) was a hazard that could not be isolated, eliminated or minimised in some way, then BoR is overruled.

                  Unless Goff wrote the venue an email saying “I don’t like their opinions, so even though you’ve already said there’s no real risk, find some pretext to cancel on them”, then the case is weak. Even then, it might be toothless.

                • solkta

                  Since the clause does not limit the right of expression in any way,

                  That clause doesn’t but section five puts limits on everything in the Act:

                  5 Justified limitations

                  Subject to section 4, the rights and freedoms contained in this Bill of Rights may be subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.

                  If it weren’t for this section then school uniforms would be illegal. Any one of us could take a school to judicial review to force them to demonstrably justify their bylaw.

                  Can’t say that the Council situation is in any way similar. They have not stopped them from expressing themselves.

                  • Dennis Frank

                    Yes, I agree the court could decide that clause 5 applies and the council decision is justified as a reasonable limit on the Bill of Rights. Effectively, that would mean all those who have argued that the right of free speech is limited by social sanctions have their view supported by the court’s decision.

                    Again, it would be better to appeal to the Supreme Court, otherwise we accept the principle of limits but we don’t know where to draw the line in practice: the law may have to be tested in a multitude of cases of varying circumstances in order to discern any consistent pattern of court rulings. Which would make the law an ass (as usual).

                    • McFlock

                      Well, if you pop down to a law library at your nearest university, or maybe a public library, I’m sure you could find a book detailing the Bill of Rights Act and the NZ case law history of its clauses since it was passed (that’s the free way rather than paying $000s on lawyers to write it up for you).

                      The thing is that this is a liminal case, close enough to the edge for the racists and hypocrites (oh, and Trotter) to try to push the line a bit more towards empowering bigotry.

                      Most people, in their normal course of action, are nowhere close to the line, either one way or another. The people who drop an occasional f-bomb in regular conversation are well on the acceptable side, whereas most fuckwits I’ve known go well into the realm of other acts (often the Crimes Act) so nobody dealing with them has to give a shit about the subtleties of BoRA.

                      The only people for whom this case will change anything (if it succeeds) are the people who want to dogwhistle to racists and neofascists but are too smart or cowardly to say so explicitly.

                    • Dennis Frank

                      I think if any court had tested clause 5’s applicability to hate speech someone would have already cited it here or in other media coverage of the issue.

                      However I just posted a query to Andrew Geddis on his Pundit column, so hopefully he will throw some light on that. He noted that Winston Peters & Simon Bridges had different views on whether council broke the law: both of them lawyers!

                      The law professor’s opinion: “the council’s actions when hiring out its venues to speakers are captured by both the NZ Bill of Rights Act 1990 and the Human Rights Act 1993. Those enactments prevent the council from making venue hiring decisions (including cancellations) that “unjustifiably limit” freedom of expression, or that discriminate on the basis of political opinion. Auckland Live – the council’s company that manages the venues – can’t then contract out of those legal obligations. Consequently, Mayor Goff’s decision (put into practice by Auckland Live) most likely will be found to be unlawful unless there is some sort of “demonstrably justified” reason for preventing Southern and Molyneux from speaking at the council’s venue.”

                      So looks like we’ll get to find out if the High Court decides the reason given by the council is sufficiently justified (unless the council asks it to dismiss the case because NZ law cannot be made to apply to absent foreigners and it agrees).

      • SPC 1.1.2

        No the FSC are the idiots, coz they did not get their ducks aligned before they raised money for a court action – as this was not a decision made by Goff their action has no legal merit.

        • dukeofurl 1.1.2.1

          They deliberately dont care about the legal niceties, its just a general fundraiser for … TPU/FSC

          I understand any claims of a breach of the human rights act have to go through the HRC…. who arent likely to prioritize this style of wedding cake hate speech – white on the outside but fruitcake inside

          • Tuppence Shrewsbury 1.1.2.1.1

            Must be appalling having organisations that want to uphold basic rights and have better oversight of taxpayers money in our society.

            I find penny bright dim and repugnant, but I don’t deny her a platform nor would I want too. I also find whatever John Minto and Annette Sykes organisation is called these days completely repugnant, but they’re allowed a say. No matter that fox news is more balanced than them and the kardashians has more intelligent things to say.

      • paul andersen 1.1.3

        you’ve been on here repeatedly being played as well.

  2. Paul Campbell 2

    So are there any members of this “Free Speech Coalition” who aren’t from Auckland?

    • lprent 2.1

      As far as I could tell many of the names I recognized were mainly known from Wellington.

      It’d probably be better to ask which ones are from Auckland.

  3. Chris 3

    Here is why Lauren Southern was banned from entering the UK. Not because her views are extreme, dangerous, and right wing. But because she is an agent provocateur trying to provoke and incite violence with Muslims in order to build a far right movement.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/422336-southern-racist-banned-gay/

    Wake up naive free speech supporters: this is classic pre-Fascist tactics from the 1930’s.

    • You_Fool 3.1

      No, she and Molyneux are worse… they are provoking violence and hate among those with far-right/racist/anti-muslim view points to drive hits on their website, youtube videos and attendance at these events for their own financial gain.

      These so called great defenders of free-speech are not actually interested in free-speech, but people paying them for speech. If they were about free speech they could come and speak in Aotea Square if they wanted. They would get more people listening to their ideas in that case… if it was about the ideas and public debate that is…

    • Stuart Munro 3.2

      She’s got free speech to rant on youtube or her own website if she wants. Global platforms. But she wants a mob and hecklers. They’re not a right.

      • Wayne 3.2.1

        You also have free speech to say what you want to say in person in a public space.
        They are limits to free speech. You can’t threaten violence, at least not to specific people or groups. But you are able to say things that will seriously offend people. A lot of comment about religion falls into this category.
        An interesting case in the US was the religious group protesting at the funerals of soldiers. In the US that was protected free speech. I am not sure we would be so liberal here, and in any event should we be?
        I also think hate speech is a slippery slope, well illustrated by the Massey Vice Chancellor’s column in the Herald today. The way she defined hate speech it seemed to cover a lot of things that would certainly be offensive, but would also seriously restrict what people can say. The insulting criticism of religion for instance.

    • OctusSpherus 3.3

      So we should watch our speech in case others are violent? Charlie Hebdo?

      Swallowing insults, especially to a God many think imaginary, is a part of living in a democratic nation.

      She said, “Allah is gay”. What part of that is racist?

      It comes dangerously close to enforcing blasphemy laws.

      • McFlock 3.3.1

        Don’t be a dick.

        The key question was whether she was trying to express an opinion, or merely trying to provoke a confrontation.

        The British decided she was doing the latter.

        That doesn’t excuse people who are provoked, because provocation is not a moral defence (might still be legal in the UK, but we got rid of it). But if violence were to result, to paraphrase the Orange One, there would be jerks on both sides. If violence doesn’t result, there’s only a jerk on one side.

        • OctusSpherus 3.3.1.1

          Provocation and actual violence aren’t the same. Whoever commits violence is the much, much bigger jerk.

          • McFlock 3.3.1.1.1

            Never said they were the same.

            But someone else being a bigger jerk does not mean that some random person is not a jerk. In fact, it definitely means that the random person is also a jerk, because “bigger” is a relative term.

            So people who commit violence without a defensible legal argument maybe go to jail, while professional aggravators simply get turned away. Not because of their beliefs, but because they’re jerks who make life difficult for everyone.

      • Tricledrown 3.3.2

        Charlie Hedbo also criticised Judaism all the journalists and cartoonists who published were sacked.

    • Ed 3.4

      Totally agree.

    • Chris T 3.5

      How is handing out pamphlets with a dumb Allah slogan inciting violence?

    • MikeS 3.6

      I think she was simply trying to show that Islam is an anti gay, homophobic ideology. How could calling Allah (or God) gay possibly be offensive? Unless you believe that homosexuality is offensive… Islam dictates that homosexuality is an abomination, is illegal and punishable by death.

      Calling God gay isn’t anywhere close to inciting violence you idiot. It;s nothing like your so-called “pre-Fascist” tactics from the 1930’s. Do you not understand that Islam (the ideology) is Fascist??

      Also, there isn’t a murmur if someone suggests for example that Jesus was gay like in this article.. (One of plenty of examples)

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/20/was-jesus-gay-probably

      For some reason it’s perfectly OK in minds like yours to ‘offend’ any beliefs except Islam

  4. cleangreen 4

    Hey Micky ; good point there below.

    But we then have another problem; I saw/heard Phil Goff say clearly on TV last weekend Quote;

    “I want Auckland to be a fully inclussive society”

    Phil Goff c;early cannot claim this now in his defence of stopping the pair using the Public venue,

    “The problem could be that the decision to prevent Auckland from being exposed to Lauren Southern’s ideas may have been motivated by bureaucratic rather than political considerations.”

    • Robert Guyton 4.1

      There’s the paradox then; can people who act to make a community exclusive of some people be included/tolerated in a fully inclusive community? Their intention is to exclude; should they be treated as everyone else is treated, if inclusiveness is your stated aim?

    • mickysavage 4.2

      I don’t see them as being contradictory. Goff can want a fully inclusive society and an official may have pulled the pin on the booking.

    • Molly 4.3

      Having had a look at the Council venues T&C, it strikes me that Auckland Council is perhaps missing an opportunity here to tighten up their processes.

      Venue hire could be in a two tier system:
      1. Existing system and lower rates for community, family and non-profit groups,
      2. Higher standard T&C for private profit events – which take into account the suitability of event in a public community venue. The charge should be higher, and the duty of care to the wider public could be outlined.

      What has also been missed is the opportunity to effectively gauge the support of the speakers in an unpublicised event. A high level of paid tickets would indicate a need for addressing the situation.

      As it is, the publicity has been a dream ride, and the recruitment level of that focus may have been substantial.

      Yes, a private venue may have been booked. But a robust T&C for Auckland Council venue hire, would have allowed the reason for declining the booking to specifically state where it did not meet the duty of care requirement, and that would have been the end of it.

      • McFlock 4.3.1

        I’d be surprised if they didn’t have some sort of mechanism for that exact situation – e.g. a commercial speaker paying full rate vs a volunteer-driven fundraiser simply getting a “don’t worry about it” from the venue manager.

        In all venues I’ve worked with or for they’ve either had a discount rate under the purview of the facility manager for charitable events, or they’ve got a little internally-managed fund to in effect pay the commercial rate on behalf of the event.

    • SPC 4.4

      No, Goff was just adding icing to a cake that had already been baked by bureaucrats.

      Can’t use my councils venues, and I am not sad but delighted coz …

    • lprent 4.5

      “I want Auckland to be a fully inclussive society”

      Yeah, and I want to never pay rates. That is what is known as a inspirational or aspiration statement.

      It doesn’t constitute any kind of legal statement or even a statement of intent.

  5. Kevin 5

    Punching the fascists in the face occasionally is ok in my books.
    They need to realise we will not just roll over as in the past.
    Learning the lessons of history.

    • Puckish Rogue 5.1

      The problem is, of course, what is a fascist and is fascism always “bad” given you can have both left-wing and right-wing fascism

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

      • arkie 5.1.1

        From your link;

        Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

        Please inform us of this ‘left-wing’ fascism you talk about.

          • adam 5.1.1.1.1

            Your mixing up authoritarianism, of which there are both left and right, and yes the left wing version of authoritarianism is bat shit crazy. The point about fascism, and why you should not throw it around is that it includes a few salient points which sorry pucky don’t fit the left. One is hyper masculinity coupled with nationalism with a big N. The other is whilst it rejects liberal capitalism, it embraces a type of monopoly capitalism as it’s economic base. It also violently anti socialist in any of it’s forms. So fascism is right wing, you lot have to own it. Like we are stuck with Mao, Stalin and the other collection of nut bars.

            • Tuppence Shrewsbury 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Socialism isn’t explicitly left wing. It’s right wing Big C conversatism that rejects all forms of capitalism, while displaying outstanding intolerance to dissenters. SO you can’t claim it’s all yours while rejecting facism as having nothing to do with the left and is all right.

              • adam

                Show me a conservative who is a socialist, and I’ll show you a room full of kiwi poo.

                • Planet Earth

                  I show you the body of Rob Muldoon, but I don’t want to see your kiwi poo thanks.

                  • arkie

                    As a long-time National Party activist, Muldoon rejected Communism as an ‘alien’ collectivist philosophy.

                    Seems your comment is so much kiwi poo

                  • Bill

                    Rob Muldoon – a conservative in a political environment dominated by social democratic priorities. Winston Peters is the closest we have to a Muldoon in today’s liberal environment.

                    Buggered if I can see how you think “socialist” shoehorns into that.

                    • lprent

                      Being in Singapore a lot over this year is an exercise in nostalgia for me.

                      It reminds me of life in the socialist state of Muldoon. Paternalistic, safe, boring, and lacking real opportunities to expand past the tired old formulas of the past.

                      The kind of society that thought that the “Think Big” projects that worked in other countries in the 1950s would work in the 1980s – they just wasted a lot of capital and gave me the most boring jobs I have ever had. Or that supporting sheep product prices with taxpayers money would somehow magically create the bonanza of the early 1950s Korean War.

                      Personally I’m not into nostalgia, especially when it comes to work. I very much want to use socialist processes to improve the lot of people and their kids. But I also want to make damn sure that it isn’t done by becoming the kind of nostalgic conservative socialist that Muldoon and many of the people who comment here seem to be like. I like to leave the nostalgia to my parents in their collecting the antique furniture of the past, and to keep working on the bleeding edge for as long as my brain and body will sustain …

                    • Bill

                      Oh dear. A “socialist state” you say?

                      I’m sure you’ve read my views on that piece of brainless terminology often enough, but anyway.

                      I can’t have any nostalgia for Muldoon, not being here at the time. Seems to me, that as in other countries, it was a complete lack of imagination on the part of formerly social democratic politicians (not to mention various extra-parliamentary types) that led to the TINA mantra of liberalism’s resurgence.

                      I’d more than welcome a reverse in direction towards social democracy as a weigh station on the road before we depart and strike out in the direction of a socialist society/socialist societies. I’ve as much hankering for stultifying bureaucracy stretching off into the future as I have for endless market tyranny – none.

                      Just to say. On the way, I’d far rather pass through a Scandinavian set-up than some others I could mention

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      The kind of society that thought that the “Think Big” projects that worked in other countries in the 1950s would work in the 1980s – they just wasted a lot of capital and gave me the most boring jobs I have ever had.

                      The thing about Think Big is that it seemed to be trying to create the success of the US Federal funding of research, development and even infrastructure. As Mariana Mazzucato points out in The Entrepreneurial State many nations have tried to do the same thing but has never been able to hit upon the success that the US has.

                      IMO, a large part is because other nations have simply tried to do more of the same whereas the US has actually used that massive, long term government funding to develop the economy. That funding comes with specific directions as well – it most definitely is picking winners and not leaving it to the free-market.

                      And then, of course, the other governments are borrowing from banks to get the money rather than simply printing it putting a massive drag on the economy as the rich drag in their unearned income.

                    • KJT

                      If oil prices had continued to rise Muldoon would have been a hero.

                      As a conservative he continued with the welfare State that was already successful.

                      Though, social welfare for sheep was taking it too far. Shades of today’s Canterbury irrigation schemes.

                      Many of the think big projects continued on to make good profits for private ownership, after later Governments sold them off at fire sale prices. Some of the worst examples of insider trading and ideological bumbling in our history.

                      I didn’t like him at the time, but the old bugger did have a vision for the future of New Zealand. Unlike many of today’s MP’s, who have a vision of how much they can make out of their retirement Directorships.

                      Didn’t find the country boring. We could afford to go ski-ing on an apprentices wage. The fields were even uncrowded, so long as you avoided the children of the rich on university holidays

                • Tuppence Shrewsbury

                  I can show lots of socialists who are big c conservative.

                  • Tricledrown

                    L prent summed up what works and what doesn’t work.
                    A balance between the Dogmas!

                • Old Girl

                  Are you certain that a socialist thinker or voter can not be conservative?
                  Is globalised privatisation running rampant on fiat finance conservative?
                  Rather, it is a mad pig’s party of faux dionysian derangement.
                  Attending Labour Party meetings in the seventies made one aware of the inherent conservatism entrenched within rigid socialist dogma at that time. To mention that you were self employed with a small business (as were many people in those days) meant that you were told ‘you should belong ‘to the other lot.’ Neither the right nor the left ever had any interest in small business.
                  Times change but in these days of tumult and deception one can appreciate the economic conservatism of David Stockman while shying away from the proposal that no one in business has the right to refuse an order. Does this mean that a working girl may not, on a dark night, refuse a customer because she does not like the cut of his jib? Or a Marxist screen printer decline an order for an evangelical rally?
                  Nature is awash with tone and colour but the dogmatist of any stripe knows only two.

                  • KJT

                    I am a conservative democratic socialist. Mostly through my job.

                    New ideas, which are usually recycled old ideas, from those who did not learn the last time, cause accidents.

                    We had a welfare State, which was working. The lack of poverty and extreme wealth did not suit the greedy, so they had to fuck with it.

                    “If it isn’t broken don’t fix it”.

                    Too many of our politicians remind me of the person who comes into the room and fiddles with the TV tuning. Even when that channel is working fine.

                  • KJT

                    And nothing has changed in regard to support for small business.

                    The right want to replace us with huge corporate monopolies, while the left don’t seem to know where they stand, in regard to corner stores and tradespeople.

              • McFlock

                How does conservativism reject “all forms of capitalism”?

                The Nazis were quite cosy with Krupp, Hugo Boss, and a real pack of bankers.

                • Tricledrown

                  Mc Flock he had friends in high places
                  His factories came from Ford GM accounting systems IBM poisonous gas etc.
                  The US profited out of WW2 seeing as a way to unsettle the old empires leaving the New World empire of The US on top of the pile.
                  But supporting fascist states to keep socialist states from sharing wealth.

            • Puckish Rogue 5.1.1.1.1.2

              ‘Historians, political scientists and other scholars have long debated the exact nature of fascism. Each interpretation of fascism is distinct, leaving many definitions too wide or narrow.’

              ‘One common definition of the term focuses on three concepts:

              the fascist negations (anti-liberalism, anti-communism and anti-conservatism);

              nationalist authoritarian goals of creating a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture;

              and a political aesthetic of romantic symbolism, mass mobilization, a positive view of violence and promotion of masculinity, youth and charismatic leadership.’

              Sorry Adam but theres more than enough in there to include the left in Fascism, I mean anti-conservatism, a regulated economic structure and a positive view of violence are all hallmarks of the left wouldn’t you say

              • adam

                Not at all Puckish Rough, you just excluded the whole anti-authoritarian left in one quick stroke.

                I’d question if you know what communism is, or why the classical fascists hated it so much.

                You get there is a difference between ideological rhetoric, which you seem to be relying on for this debate, and what actually happened in fascist states. The reality is all fascist states stayed capitalist, and whilst I agree they were deeply anti-liberalism (more over the social aspects of liberalism) and anti-communism, the reality was, they attached themselves to the traditional conservative class rather quickly. Spain is a good example of this, as is Italy.

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Theres left wing fascism and right wing fascism, maybe fascism tends to swing towards the right but it doesn’t alter the issue of there being left wing fascism

                  Sorry about that 🙂

                  • arkie

                    There is not ‘left-wing’ fascism. There are left-wing authoritarians.

                    maybe fascism tends to swing towards the right

                    You want to hedge any more there? The ‘issue’ is you doing a both-sides argument in defence of fascism.

                  • Bill

                    From a decidedly left perspective, I’ve wondered what term would have been used to describe the political reality of the USSR in 1921/22 if Mussolini wasn’t still a few years away from coining the phrase “fascism”?

                    When looking at what the Bolsheviks put in place, there’s an argument to be made that Mussolini basically just teased that monolithic nonsense apart to give ideological and actual space to the church and the market.

                    And yes, the priorities and justifications of Mussolini were not the same as those promoted by the Bolsheviks – just as they were not the same as those promoted by Hitler, or Franco or Salazar – but there were also rather large areas of commonality.

                    • adam

                      But the reality is fascism had a anti-communist bent, it also was hyper masculine, and it Nationalism of the big N kind.

                      Look I agree the state of Soviet Russia under Stalin was a total cluster. But there were differences, maybe to degree. Many on the left will own that Stalinism and Maoism are fubar without measure. Both are bad, evil, and down right rotten systems. Which screwed with people.

                      The problem I have is very few on the right are willing to own fascism grew out of their ideology. That their ideology grew a system which unlike the authoritarian left states even at their worst. Adopted the idea that killing people because of disability, skin colour, religion or sexuality was a very good idea.

                    • McFlock

                      The most apt description would be “recently almost completely occupied by foreign invaders, still fighting a civil war, and in a state of martial law”.

                      Whereas the Italians had been on the winning side in WW1.

                    • Bill

                      Bugger! Entire comment lost to the ether. Short version…

                      The Bolsheviks had a pretty clear cut anti-communist bent too, no?

                      It isn’t cut and dried. There are numerous examples of liberalism supporting and borrowing from authoritarianism as well as opposing it. And there are examples of the different ideological hues of authoritarianism supporting, borrowing and opposing one another too.

                    • McFlock

                      Well, the main difference between left and right authoritarians seems (to me) to be that while the nazis and fascists started left wing and populist, they decided to gain the favour and support of existing power structures while preserving their populist approach. And the existing power structures (capitalists, church, royalty) accepted or even embraced them against the left (which of any flavour or extremity endangers minority power structures).

                      Whereas the authoritarian “left” tended to create its own power structures.

                    • Bill

                      Pinochet, Suharto, Franco et al…yeah well, not much evidence of a “populist” platform.

                      The Bolsheviks usurped all existent structures of power – assimilated them into authority of ‘The Party’.

                      Mussolini usurped some centres of power and gained the approval or acquiescence of others.

                      Hitler was a bit of an odd-ball among his fellow European fascist leaders, what with the whole weird fabricated mythology borrowing elements from here, there and everywhere, when the Catholic church was just “sitting there” and able enough to provide “spiritual” authority.

                      All positioned themselves in opposition to socialist or left thought/action, and crushed it when and where they could (with not a little helping hand from their liberal mates on occasion).

                    • McFlock

                      Fair call on pinochet, franco etc.

                      But both hitler and mussolini initially joined worker-oriented (and explicitly socialist) parties and worked through the electoral system, then acquired sponsorship from the existing power structures after embracing an anti-socialist platform (in the nazis’ case with the exception of the Catholic church, both because of Nazi mythology and also because the protestant/catholic divide made the Catholic church less desirable as an ally).

                  • adam

                    Now you’re completely delusional on this on Puckish Rogue. Do you think the taxpayers union is some workers rights outfit as well?

                    There are idiots on the left and right, but the reality is fascism is born out of the right ideology. There is no hyper masculinity on the left, there is no desire to kill communism/communists on the left, and there is no nationalism with a big N. Three key parts which makeup fascism, a hard right ideology.

                    You need to own it puck.

                    We own their are authoritarian scumbag leninist f^%$&&^$%$s, ect on our side, time to face reality buddy. The fascist idiots are all yours.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      Did you note notice the parts that also mentioned:

                      anti-conservatism

                      nationalist authoritarian goals of creating a regulated economic structure to transform social relations within a modern, self-determined culture

                      a positive view of violence

                      I absolutely agree there are plenty of people, and leaders, that could be described as both right wing and fascist (no arguments there) there are also left wing fascists no matter how much you want to try to twist and turn it 🙂

                    • adam

                      Not arguing with that their are idiots on the left puck, just pointing out the points of difference which make fascists, fascists. Left wing authoritarian thugs and nut bars I own. I get there are leftist who love violence and hate conservatism, idiots fools and despicable scum they may be. But, and it’s a but – they are not fascists, precisely becasue they are not running around promoting anti-communism, nor hyper masculine, and Nationalism with the big N.

                      Your lack of logic on this is kinda frustrating. The right created and has to own fascism, like we have to own the nasty horrible mess that was leninism and Maoism. Otherwise you lot are passing the buck. Or are you going to say your lot created Mao, and Lenin now?

                    • Pat

                      Its entirely debatable what or who ‘created’ fascism….there is little doubt however that for it to flourish it requires economic failure and political polarisation.

                    • In Vino

                      Good comment, Pat. I would add that Fascism so often involves also a heavy dose of Racism to equal the Nationalism.

                    • KJT

                      To get to the point. Authoritarian Governments can pretend to be either right or left wing.

                      But, their point of confluence, is the centralisation of power.

                      Usually by greedy scumbags at the top.

                      Neither work. Neither a capitalist oligarchy ruled by accumulated wealth, a “communist” dictatorship ruled by accumulation of power, nor pretend democracies, where those in power work for the same people.

                      The most successful States, have heavily regulated mixed economies, with a high level of “populist” Democracy and local control, with State intervention to ensure the cost of market “externalities are evenly distributed, and the wealthy and powerfuls influence is limited.

                      Attempt’s to limit speech that we don’t like is a sign of budding Authoritarianism.

                  • Tricledrown

                    Fascism becomes fashionable when good people let a vocal minority dictate to the majority.
                    Would we let someone from the Taliban, IsIs into the country to speak.

          • arkie 5.1.1.1.2

            Ah yes, thanks, so it’s theoretical. I don’t subscribe to horseshoe theory.

            The point about Molyneux et al is that they represent this part of fascism;

            Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete

            Liberal democracy got us to the more representative society that we live in, it made advances for many people previously on the fringes. Liberal democracy has forgotten that these people who oppose liberalism are the same people appealing to the liberals to defend their ‘free speech’ while they bash liberal democracy.

  6. Cemetery Jones 6

    More to the point, does this mean that after all his grandstanding about what he will or won’t allow to happen in council venues, he was actually just putting on a Walter Mitty act?

    • dukeofurl 6.1

      Its called Right Side of History

      John Key deflected when asked which side of the Springbok tour he was on? he darn well knew he was on the wrong side.

      • Gosman 6.1.1

        The right side of history involves restrictions of free speech it seems…

        • lprent 6.1.1.1

          Nope. There isn’t a legal right to free speech.

          FFS could you at least use the correct phrase for NZ – the one in the BORA.

          Or could it be that you just an idiot from the USA?

        • arkie 6.1.1.2

          Freeze Peach! Freeze Peach!

          You have been called out for your disingenuous repeating that ‘free speech’ is being restricted. It is not. It seems you are more concerned with defending fascists…

          • Dukeofurl 6.1.1.2.1

            NZ BORA allows freedom of expression, but not if it contravenes
            Food labelling regulations
            Copyright
            Trade secrets
            Non disclosure agreements
            Etc.

            Oh and state secrets

    • Bill 7.1

      Unbelievable. (Actually, it’s not). Anyway, because I suspect most people don’t click on links, I hope you don’t mind me doing a cut and paste of what I’m seeing as the most pertinent bit, Pat.

      “She put herself in a position where [Democrats] from states that Trump won will have to distance themselves from her even more,” another former Clinton aide told the website. “That’s a lot of states.”

      Predictably, gleeful Republicans seized on her polarizing comments.

      “At the RNC, we try not to continue to focus on Hillary Clinton. We really do try very hard,” Mike Reed, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said in an email to reporters. “But this one is impossible to ignore.”

      • Pat 7.1.1

        No problem….i figured the article was self explanatory…but obviously only if you bother to read it.

        • Dennis Frank 7.1.1.1

          From President Kylie Jenner’s inauguration speech after the 2020 US election:

          “I heard that Hilary Clinton was running to be our first geriatric president and thought `why not a millenial?’ When my website crashed half an hour after I called for volunteers to join my support team, we had more than 100 million men enlisted!! I also got several million women, talked to lots of them & they all seemed to be lesbians. I appreciate their appreciation and think it’s wonderful to have so many minority rights advisors.”

          “I’d like to thank Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton for destroying the Republican and Democratic parties. Who’d have thought the Green Party would suddenly displace them? I’m proud of whatever small part I may have played in leading them to this result.”

          “Ralph Nader will look after the environment for us. Elon Musk has agreed to be my Climate Change Czar. Oprah Winfrey will be Race Relations Director. LeBron James will serve as Secretary of Defense, George Clooney will be Secretary of State & Bill Gates Secretary of Treasury.”

          “I wish Hilary well in her new career running knitting circles in old folks homes and agree with her suggestion that they discuss how wonderful she is. Old ladies always need a fresh topic. The Don will do well in his new tv reality show, Politics 1.01, and definitely a good idea for him to include the audience in discussing the reasons why someone ought to be fired – ethics & social darwinism are making America great again! Uh, I think my speechwriter means social media? If there was a god I’d declare `God bless America’, but we’ve moved on. Anyway, let’s party!!”

  7. McGrath 8

    I would have just let them speak as they would have failed miserably. They would have been lucky to get 10 listeners. Now there is all this hoo-hah resulting in an much higher profile.

  8. SPC 9

    The Free Speech coalition is actually part of a campaign against the re-election of Phil Goff.

  9. tsmithfield 10

    Challenging religious intolerance (for whatever reason) is not a bad thing.

    As can be seen during history, Christianity has been associated with persecution, and reformation as people have stood against religious intolerance at considerable personal cost on many occasions.

    Southern was undoubtably pulling a stunt in Lutin.

    But was it wrong for her to point out the intolerance of Islam towards gays? Surely people were only getting offended because of their own intolerant attitudes that were being upset. But is that a bad thing?

    So, social change often comes about from people being willing to stand up and make a point. We probably would still have slavery, and women would be nowhere near as far ahead in Western culture if it wasn’t for people being willing to stand up against issues.

    So, causing offence in itself isn’t a reason to clamp down on freedom of speech. Tip-toeing around issues because it might cause offence isn’t helping social progress in religions and cultures that undoubtably need it.

  10. Ross 11

    Phil Goff has said that he would allow Donald Trump to use Council facilities. Well, of course he would because Tump is such a reasonable person…by the way how is that Mexican wall coming along?

  11. SPC 12

    Meanwhile – something not covered in the MSM – real threat to free speech in New Zealand.

    New Zealanders forced to live in exile.

    • SPC 12.1

      A bit more context.

      • Gosman 12.1.1

        Noone is forcing her to live in exile. I strongly suspect she has some mental health problems which lend her to a degree of paranoia.

        • SPC 12.1.1.1

          Sure, it was her chosen response to being intimidated.

          And I strongly suspect your willingness to believe that those targeted for persecution are mentally ill/paranoid is why your defence of free speech can now be seen as the gaslighting man joke that it is.

          • xanthe 12.1.1.1.1

            From personal experience i agree for once with gosman.. Suzie is both mad and dangerous, avoid! IMHO!

  12. Ed 13

    At last some clear thinking over at the Daily Blog, after the naive mumbling of Chris Trotter.
    John Minto is back from a week’stramping and writes.

    “ In this case “freedom of Speech” is being used as a cover to promote the denial of freedoms to others based on race and religion. Freedom from fear, freedom from abuse, freedom from racial or religious denigration should be enjoyed by all New Zealanders. For this reason the council should not provide venues for the promotion of race or religious hatred which undermines the freedoms of other citizens.

    I was one of those who complained to the Broadcasting Standards Tribunal about the racist stereotyping in Al Nisbet’s cartoon in the Press newspaper a few years back. Nisbet was promoting the view that Maori are lazy dole bludgers who waste their money on booze, gambling and smoking. His cartoon was nasty and vicious for which all Maori feel the backlash.

    It wasn’t a denial of Nisbet’s freedom of speech to say the cartoon should not have been published. Nisbet has plenty of other ways to promote his racist views without being given a platform to do so by a major daily newspaper. Similarly for the “white genocide” alarmists whose narrative is based on seeing the “enemy” as those of different races or religions to Europeans. Stirring up hatred and resentment based on race or religion is nothing less than the promotion of fascist ideas.”

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/07/17/free-speech-for-racist-or-religious-hatred/

  13. Bill 14

    Meanwhile there continues to be an intense debate on the left amongst those who think that the right to freedom of speech should be sacrosanct and those who thinks that punching a fascist can occasionally be justified.

    Pretty narrow playing field there Mickey.

    Way I see it, there’s a principle at play around free speech, and I can absolutely expand on justification for giving some people a good kicking.

    Here’s a thing for consideration. If you can’t understand why, for instance, some people think that whites are victims and why they feel marginalised, are you more inclined to simply condemn then for any subsequent racist and/or misogynistic utterings, or would you rather understand where they’re coming from and deal with any root cause that might be giving rise to their perceptions?

    Plenty of people are happy enough to exploit the fallout from any condemnation being heaped on such people. So…maybe condemn them too, if condemnation and dismissal is the game plan? Build an army to fight?

    Alternatively, get to the root cause of shit and rip it out? 😉

  14. veutoviper 15

    Interesting! I better get some popcorn in.

    A couple of weeks ago, Pete George wrote a (first) post on the proposed visit of Southern and Molyneux and included a link to the actual sales blurb put out by the organisers of the Australia/NZ tour – with the full conditions etc.

    If any one is interested, here is a link to this first post:
    https://yournz.org/2018/07/10/the-molyneux-southern-speaking-tour/

    And a link to the actual sales blurb/TOCs etc which is the info most relevant to this post here:
    https://axiomatic.events/

    At the time, I considered it somewhat hypocritical to impose the conditions set out in the sales blurb re denial of entry etc vs the freedom of speech debate.

    Both Southern and Molyneux have now been granted visas to Australia and are now there. I may be wrong but I think they may also have been granted visas to NZ, but at this point there is no indication that they will be coming.

    Only three days until their first appearance in Australia – Melbourne, July 20 – if things go to schedule …

    • dukeofurl 15.1

      havent been granted visas. As Canadians they can come here under visa waiver conditions which mostly mean no visas required.
      However once they arrive they still need ‘permission to enter’, which can be used to turn ‘deplorables away’. Not so sure on the conditions on that

      • Craig H 15.1.1

        Pretty basic – funds to survive for the trip and a ticket out at the end.

        However, because they’ve been banned from the UK, they don’t meet character requirements, and need to apply for a visa before travelling. Arguably they may need a work visa since it sounds like they were traveling for a paid appearance.

  15. rightly or wrongly 16

    I would sound a small note of caution to those lefties who have expressed delight at their great white knight vanquishing the two hated Canadian dragons and basing their delight around the said dragons being ‘fascists’ and ‘racists,’ not expousing ‘inclusive’ opinions, and liable to incite public disorder.

    The caution is this; when you justify banning speakers from public venues on spurious grounds, there is a double edged sword where a future right wing mayor/government may decide that your favourite international Union rep or Socialist President must be banned as they could be considered to be ‘racist’ or ‘communist’, espousing ‘exclusive’ opinions, and inciting public disorder.

    The justification is the same in both cases and you end up with a public discourse of bland and palid conversation, devoid of challenging ideas and concepts.

    Much better to allow speakers of all flavours and colours and if they something you don’t like counter it with more speech. Anything else is authoritarian dictat.

    • Ross 16.1

      That is spot on – and is strongly supported by none other than Barack Obama who said:

      “We [protect speech critical of religion not] because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views and practice their own faith may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to silence critics and oppress minorities. We do so because given the power of faith in our lives, and the passion that religious differences can inflame, the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression; it is more speech.”

  16. NZJester 17

    This video shows the double standards in America and with the Right Wing when it comes to free speech.

  17. AlexeiDinoia 18

    So many stupid sjw delusions in this comment section.

  18. Carolyn_Nth 19

    So now the Freeze Peach coalition are trying to do a deal with Auckland Council, to have an event at a council venue.

    I guess this is because the Coalition knows they don’t have a case against Goff or the council. Some say they are out to undermine Goff, or to test the law – but they probably don’t have a case to defeat the original council decision through the law.

    I would let this negotiation go through the process. It’s not about free speech really, but about propaganda and provoking a response to get publicity. Let the law and negotiations take their course.

    If the Canadian pair to have an event in Auckland I wouldn’t give them more oxygen by protesting the evnt.

    Maybe the best thing now is to do what the anti-nazi league and rock against racism did in London in the 80s. Hold an alternative event/s elsewhere, celebrating Aucklan’s diversity. Make it positive, fun and entertaining so that it engages communities at the flax roots.

    In London in the 1980s, the National Front was on the rise, staging marches and meetings. Away from the public eye, there was violence against black people. I went on a couple of massive anti-nazi league demos through London, followed by free outdoor concerts with some big name performers: Elvis Costello, Polystyrene, Wham, etc.

    That’s the way to go now, I think, whether the Canadian propagandist and provocateurs do an event in Auckland or not.

  19. Delia 20

    I just read in today’s Herald they have permission to enter New Zealand.

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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    2 days ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #13
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 22, 2020 through Sat, Mar 28, 2020 Articles Linked to on Facebook Sun, Mar 22, 2020 In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters by Chelsea Harvey, ...
    3 days ago
  • Rāhui day 3
    I’m here in lockdown with my flatmate and her two girls (6 and 2) and it. is. a time. They’re usually really active so to start with the only boardgame in the house is the copy of Guess Who that the 6 year old got for her birthday. Flatmate commented ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    3 days ago
  • A test of civil society.
    The CV-19 (COVID) pandemic has seen the imposition of a government ordered national quarantine and the promulgation of a series of measures designed to spread the burden of pain and soften the economic blow on the most strategically important and most vulnerable sectors of society. The national narrative is framed ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    3 days ago
  • Life in Lock Down: Day 2
    . . Lock Down: Day 2 – A photo essay with observations . March 27 – Day 2 of our Strange New World. The Park and Ride near my suburb, usually filled with hundreds of vehicles, had just… four; . . Another drive into Wellington City on a highway nearly ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • How Do You Feel? What Do You Think?
    Fortune's Children: Under extraordinary pressure, the leader of the Government and the leader of the Opposition will each show us what they are made of. Have they been blessed with intelligence, grace, wit, poise, toughness, empathy and humour – and in what measure? More importantly, to what extent have they ...
    4 days ago
  • Landlords are NOT an essential service
    If you’ve ever had the misfortune of having to rent a property on the open market in New Zealand, which is one of the most expensive in the entire world, you’ll likely be keenly aware of just how arrogant and entitled landlords and their real estate agents can be.Unfortunately for ...
    4 days ago
  • A “new Society” post-COVID19 will definitely emerge. The question is: on what path?
    Society-wise, aside from the specific morbidity shall we say of the medically-oriented aspects of this COVID-19 crisis, what is unfolding before the world is in more than one way an instructive study of humanity and reactions to a high intensity, high stress environment in real time. Friends, we are at ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    4 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: Everything you need to know about the wage subsidy
    Right now low waged and insecure workers are feeling the economic brunt of the looming #Covid19 Recession. In response legal advocate Toby Cooper* and hospitality and worker’s rights advocate Chloe Ann-King, are putting together a series of legal blogs about your employment rights: In this legal blog we outline some ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    4 days ago
  • The massacre of prisoners in Modelo jail, Bogota, March 21
    by Equipo Jurídico Pueblos and Gearóid Ó Loingsigh (25/03/2020) An escape plan in question On the night of March 21st and the early morning of the 22nd, the forces of the Colombian state stormed into the Modelo prison in Bogotá, murdering 23 prisoners and injuring 83, in response to the ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • We are not America
    When the government banned semi-automatic weapons in response to a terrorist atrocity, gun-nuts were outraged. Mired in toxic American gun culture, they thought owning weapons whose sole purpose was killing people was some sort of "constitutional right", a necessity for "defending themselves" against the government. Now, the Court of Appeal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • When will we know the lockdown is working?
    Just before midnight on Wednesday March 25, Aotearoa New Zealand entered a countrywide alert level four lockdown. For at least the next four weeks, everyone who isn’t an essential worker is confined to their bubble. We are doing this to stop the explosive growth in people contracting and dying from ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    4 days ago
  • Lock Down: Day 1
    . . Lock Down: Day 1 – A photo essay with observations . Day one of the Level 4 nationwide lock-down (or, DefCon 4 as I sometimes cheekily call it) started at 11.59PM on 25 March. For a moment, most of the nation held it’s collective breath. In that brief ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    4 days ago
  • A Compelling Recollection.
    Broad, Sunlit Uplands: How those words fired my young imagination! Or, perhaps, it is more accurate to say: how those words fused, in my young mind, with the image printed on every packet of Fielder’s Cornflour. Always fascinated by history, especially modern history, I cannot hear Churchill’s wonderfully evocative words, even ...
    5 days ago
  • The Warehouse – where everyone gets a virus
    . . 24 March 2020 9.46AM Number of covid19 cases in Aotearoa New Zealand: 102 . As of 11.59 on Thursday, most of New Zealand will go into “lock down”. People will be expected not to travel to work; not to socialise; and to stay home. I will not be ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Aggressive action to address climate change could save the world $145 trillion
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections A respected research group, Project Drawdown, finds that deploying solutions consistent with meeting the Paris climate targets would cost tens of trillions of dollars globally. But crucially, those outlays would also yield long-term savings many times larger than the up-front costs. The new 2020 Drawdown ...
    5 days ago
  • After the Pandemic
    It will pass. What happens next? Not immediately, but longer term. There are many opinions, fewer certainties. Will it “change everything!” as many confidently, and contradictorily predict? In this post I look at how foresight can help bound some of the uncertainties so you can more objectively consider the future. ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    5 days ago
  • Coronavirus – Cuba shows the way
    We’ve been meaning t write something on Cuba and the coronavirus but have just discovered a very good article on the subject in the US left publication Jacobin.  The article looks at how Cuba, a poor country but one where capitalism has been done away with, is leading the way ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Using privacy law to prevent the death penalty
    In 2018, El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey - two British citizens who had purportedly been stripped of their citizenship by the British government - were captured while fighting for Isis in Syria. The British government then conspired to hand them over to the US, and agreed to provide evidence ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • It’s Time For Disaster Socialism.
    Transformers: The disaster of the Great Depression was transformed into a new and fairer society by the democratic socialism of the First Labour Government. The disaster of the Covid-19 Pandemic offers a similar transformative possibility to the Labour-NZ First-Green Government. Seize the time, Jacinda! You will never have a better ...
    6 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #12, 2020
    Tamper with The System? Well, we already are. But there's a difference between accidentally trickling sand into a precision gearbox versus formulating a plan to alter it on the fly with improvements in mind. One action is more or less innocently unscrupulous, the other amenable to earning an easy ...
    6 days ago
  • Avoidable hospitalisations: Helping our health system get through COVID-19
    Associate Prof George Thomson, Louise Delany, Prof Nick Wilson While it is possible that New Zealand can use intense public health controls to eradicate COVID-19 from the country – we must also plan for other scenarios where thousands of New Zealanders are sick – including many urgently hospitalised.1 Better resilience ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    6 days ago
  • Raise the Bar: 10 questions to ask your employer proposing redundancy
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or being ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    6 days ago
  • An equitable way to support business
    The Herald reports that the government is planning to lend billions of dollars to large businesses to keep them operating during the pandemic. As with mortgage relief, this is necessary: we need companies to stay in business, to reduce the economic damage and help things get restarted again when this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Hard News: Together Alone
    We're about to do something unprecedented as a nation. We hope that by taking this extraordinary action before a single life in New Zealand has been lost to the deadly novel virus we will save tens of thousands of lives. Our  lives. We'll do it together, in households, in isolation ...
    7 days ago
  • Why timing is everything: ‘A time to refrain from embracing’ starts today
    “There is a time for everything,    and a season for every activity under the heavens.”So writes the author of Ecclesiastes, a book in the Old Testament that’s counted as a ‘wisdom’ book and written as if by an unnamed king of Jerusalem. But who would have thought there would be a time ...
    PunditBy Tim Watkin
    7 days ago
  • Dealing with the Covid-19 Tsunami.
    I was surprised when the prime minister described the Economic Response to Covid-19 package as the ‘largest peacetime government spend in New Zealand's history’. Reflecting – checking through history – I realised that the term ‘spend’ was crucial and the package had no income tax cuts. Even so, it has ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 week ago
  • What about renters?
    The government today announced the latest part of its pandemic relief package: a six-month mortgage holiday for people whose incomes have been affected by the pandemic. Which is great, because these people are going to need help, and that's what the government should be doing. At the same time, it ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Living within our means.
    Years ago the Argentine sociologist Carlos Weisman wrote a book titled “Living within our Means.” It was a critique of Argentine society that focused on the paradoxical question of why, in a land of plenty, there was so much economic instability, inequality, corruption and political turmoil. His conclusion was basically ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Transparency and the pandemic
    Parliament will be leading by example and adjourning tomorrow after a special sitting to consider an epidemic notice and state of emergency. Day-to-day oversight of the government will be delegated to a select committee. But that's not the only overight mechanism. The OIA will still be law, and (so far) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • ‘Overjoyed’: a leading health expert on New Zealand’s coronavirus shutdown, and the challengin...
    Michael Baker, University of Otago Overjoyed. That’s not a word epidemiologists normally use, but that’s how I felt after hearing Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s announcement about New Zealand’s COVID-19 shutdown of everything except essential services for at least four weeks from midnight on Wednesday. More than anything, I just ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • One way to solve the housing crisis
    How much homelessness is caused by house hoarding? We're about to find out. The pandemic has destroyed tourism, which means that house hoarders who put their hoarded properties up as short-term tourist rentals are now offering them on the ordinary rental market:Property investors are pulling properties from Airbnb to offer ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The pros and cons of planting trees to address global warming
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bruce Lieberman It seems like such a simple, straightforward, empowering idea: plant trees – a lot of trees – all over the world, and watch the planet’s temperature fall. Who doesn’t love a tree or two, even far more – the right ...
    1 week ago
  • Not a grand coalition, but a government of national salvation
    According to Newshub, Simon Bridges is open to joining a “grand coalition” with Labour as we hunker down to go into a month long lockdown. The idea is sound. Before now, the role of the opposition was to scrutinise and oppose. In the context of what almost amounts to a ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Raise the Bar: hospitality workers & wage subsidy entitlements
    Kia ora my name is Chloe Ann-King* and I am the founder of Raise the Bar, a campaign and non-profit that gives free legal aid, advocacy and tautoko to hospitality workers in Aotearoa. Right now all over our country hospo workers are being fired at will, having shifts cut or ...
    PosseBy chloeanneking
    1 week ago
  • Lifting our game against COVID-19
    We need to be lifting our game against COVID-19. You and I need to help those working to prevent the spread of COVID-19 while they’re trying to lift the testing and treatment efforts. We don’t want to be playing this game running backwards. Best to play it solidly forward, from ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • The maths and ethics of minimising COVID-19 deaths in NZ
    Prof Tony Blakely, Prof Michael Baker, and Prof Nick Wilson The NZ Government must do more to clearly articulate its COVID-19 strategy: eradication or ‘flattening the curve’ mitigation. But to do so means understanding the maths and ethics of both these strategies. In this blog, we adapt our work for ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • All aboard the Covid Train
    A few days ago I was starting to write something about the pandemic, which now seems unconscionable. It took the form of a letter to an agony aunt:“Dear Deidre, I have an ugly confession. I am quite excited by Covid-19.”This is how the piece went:“I’m not a psychopath, honest. Although the ...
    PunditBy Phil Vine
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming Digest #12
    Story of the Week... Toon of the Week... Climate Feedback Article Review... Coming Soon on SkS... Climate Feedback Claim Reviews... SkS Week in Review... Poster of the Week... Story of the Week... In Just 10 Years, Warming Has Increased the Odds of Disasters The likelihood of extreme events ...
    1 week ago
  • We are all socialists now
    Last week, the government announced a $12 billion initial package to support people during the pandemic. Today, the Reserve Bank is buying government bonds - effectively printing money - to keep up the money supply during the crisis. Normally such moves would have the right apoplectic. Instead, the National Party ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A plea to experts: safeguard your role in public life
    I am a pundit, somebody who opines and comments on the news. There are no real qualifications to punditry though having a rudimentary way with words and good general knowledge helps. That is one reason there is a constant oversupply of would-be pundits and why it is quite hard to ...
    PunditBy Liam Hehir
    1 week ago
  • Enlightenment when?
    I recently encountered the following prescription from a Faculty of Education at a leading New Zealand University. At first I wondered if it was another product of the postmodern generator (http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/), designed to create gibberish in the postmodern form, but I’m told it is real: The “schooled” society: Towards the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • What the Crisis Can teach Us
    The coronavirus pandemic has of course had a major impact on individual lives and on societies as a whole. But, long after the crisis has passed (assuming it does), we will begin to realise that its real and lasting significance lies in the lessons it has taught us, if only ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • Hammering home measures to stop COVID-19
    COVID-19 has plunged Aotearoa New Zealand (indeed, the world) into territory that, while maybe not totally unprecedented, certainly hasn’t been seen during the lifetimes of most of us here today. Our borders are closed to non-citizens, we’re being told not to gather in groups of more than 500 outside/100 inside, ...
    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 week ago
  • What does ‘level two’ mean – and why does it matter?
    For the last few weeks, I’ve been urging you to prepare yourself, your family, business, and community for Covid-19. Now it’s time for real action.  Yesterday the director-general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield announced another 13 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in New Zealand, bringing our total to date to 52. ...
    SciBlogsBy Siouxsie Wiles
    1 week ago
  • 2020 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #12
    A chronological listing of news articles linked to on the Skeptical Science Facebook Page during the past week, i.e., Sun, Mar 15, 2020 through Sat, Mar 21, 2020 Editor's Pick Now Isn’t the Time to Forget About Our Climate Change Efforts   Tasha Tilberg, Lindsey Wixson, and Liu Wen photographed ...
    1 week ago
  • Is the Guardian becoming  a real newspaper again?
    by Jan Rivers The article has been corrected to show that it was Ewen MacAskill, former Guardian journalist and not Luke Harding who travelled to meet Edward Snowden with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker Laura Poitras.  Some of the Guardian’s well-known journalists who did not sign the protest letter are ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Life asserts itself regardless
    by Cultural Worker Late March 2020 amidst the virus. With gigs crashing and burning all around it was without much hope that I called a long standing rest home booking: “ Hi, I’m supposed to be entertaining at your place this afternoon – is it still on?” “”If you don’t ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics, the possible, and the pandemic
    Whenever people demand real change from their politicians, we're told that "politics is the art of the possible". The implication is that change isn't possible, so we'd better just get used to the sucky status quo. But now that there's a pandemic, a lot of things we were previously told ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The Only Way Through This Crisis Is Together.
    Together: In leading New Zealand through the Covid-19 Pandemic, the Prime Minister could do a lot worse than allow herself to be guided by the spirit of collective sacrifice and co-operation that animated the New Zealanders of 80 years ago. Most Kiwis alive today have had no opportunity to prove their ...
    2 weeks ago
  • GFC vs Covid-19
    It is said that generals fight the last war. In the case of the early stages of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) they had learned from the Great Depression of the 1930s and they fought intelligently and successfully. Later their advice would be ignored in favour of the Austerians who ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    2 weeks ago
  • Nobody Left Behind.
    Solidarity Forever: All over the world, the arrival of the Covid-19 virus has exposed the fragility of the walls we erect around ourselves and our loved ones. It has shattered our illusions of autonomy and revealed to us how utterly dependent we all are on other human-beings. Finally, we see ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Rebuilding a truly “Democratic” counter, or a “moderate Republican” bolt-hol...
    Looking across the various arguments for/against the leading candidates to take the Democratic Nomination, you might honestly be very hard pressed to tell. There are a number of things that have now started happening since Amy Klobuchar and “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg both threw the towel in and immediately (and ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Abortion law reform a win for women
    by Daphna Whitmore Abortion is no longer in the Crimes Act in New Zealand. The law reform passed yesterday and now abortion is a medical matter between a woman and her doctor. Many women’s groups and progressive people have campaigned for reform for decades. The women’s liberation movement and some ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • How to spot bogus science stories and read the news like a scientist
    Doug Specht, University of Westminster and Julio Gimenez, University of Westminster When fake news, misreporting and alternative facts are everywhere, reading the news can be a challenge. Not only is there plenty of misinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, climate change and other scientific topics floating around social media, you also ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Why New Zealand needs to continue decisive action to contain coronavirus
    Michael Baker, University of Otago and Nick Wilson, University of Otago With some of the toughest border restrictions and a newly-announced NZ$500 million boost to health services, New Zealand is among a small number of countries with a strategy to contain the COVID-19 pandemic. New Zealand is also fortunate in ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Parliament and the pandemic II
    As expected, the government has introduced a sessional order to allow Parliament to operate during the pandemic. You can read it on the Order Paper here, but the short version is that questions and motions can be filed electronicly, select committees can work remotely, and the the Business Committee can ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • When a virus goes viral: pros and cons to the coronavirus spread on social media
    Axel Bruns, Queensland University of Technology; Daniel Angus, Queensland University of Technology; Timothy Graham, Queensland University of Technology, and Tobias R. Keller, Queensland University of Technology News and views about coronavirus has spread via social media in a way that no health emergency has done before. Platforms like Twitter, Facebook, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago

  • Government seeks infrastructure projects
    The Government has tasked a group of industry leaders to seek out infrastructure projects that are ready to start as soon as the construction industry returns to normal to reduce the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford and Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones say. The Infrastructure ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 hours ago
  • Essential media COVID-19 guidelines refined
    The Government is refining its COVID-19 essential business guidance to include the distribution of news publications for communities which are hard to reach. The Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, Kris Faafoi, said the move was in recognition of the importance for New Zealanders who might be harder to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago
  • New Zealand defence personnel conclude mission at Taji
    Following the successful conclusion of the Building Partner Capacity (BPC) mission at Taji, New Zealand defence personnel are returning to New Zealand from Iraq, in accordance with the Cabinet decision made in June 2019, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today. “New Zealand is very ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago
  • State of National Emergency extended
    The State of National Emergency to help stop the spread of COVID-19 has been extended for a further seven days, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare said. The initial declaration on March 25 lasted seven days and can be extended as many times as necessary. “Since we went into isolation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago
  • Strong Govt books support ‘go hard, go early’ response
    New Zealand’s ability to go hard and go early in the fight against COVID-19 has been underpinned by strong Government finances and the growing economy heading into this global pandemic, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Treasury today released the Crown financial statements for the eight months to the end ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • Christchurch Hospital Hagley ICU to open to support COVID-19 response
    Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients.   The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government supports Air NZ freight flights
    The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Tariff concessions on COVID-19 related products
    New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Clarification of modification to wage subsidy scheme
    Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Face masks flowing to DHBs
    Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • COVID-19: Further steps to protect New Zealanders’ jobs
    The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Tax relief for Mycoplasma Bovis farmers
    Farmers whose herds were culled in response to the outbreak of Mycoplasma bovis will be able to minimise the tax treatment of their income in some circumstances. Revenue Minister Stuart Nash says Cabinet has agreed to change the law. It means farmers may be eligible to spread their income over ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • $27 million for NGOs and community groups to continue providing essential services
    A $27 million dollar package, effective immediately, is being provided to social sector services and community groups to ensure they can continue to provide essential support to communities as we stay at home as a nation to stop the spread of COVID-19, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced. “At ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Statement on guilty plea of March 15 terrorist
    “The guilty plea today will provide some relief to the many people whose lives were shattered by what happened on March 15,” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. “These guilty pleas and conviction bring accountability for what happened and also save the families who lost loved ones, those who were injured, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • COVID-19 updates
    The Prime Minister is holding daily press conferences to update New Zealanders on the Government's response to COVID-19. Links to videos and transcripts of these updates below. These transcripts also include All of Government press conferences led by Director Ministry of Health's Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield. 25 March: Live update from the Prime ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Police numbers break through 10,000 mark
    Frontline Police numbers have broken through the 10,000 mark for the first time in history as officers step forward to keep the community safe during the COVID19 lockdown. “Two Police graduations in Auckland and Wellington in the past week have been conducted in unprecedented circumstances,” Police Minister Stuart Nash said. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Urgent tax measures for economic recovery
    Urgent legislation has been passed to support the package of economic and social measures needed to recover from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak. “The COVID-19 Response (Taxation and Social Assistance Urgent Measures) Bill will cushion New Zealanders from the worst economic impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak,” said Revenue Minister ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Further support for farmers and growers as drought persists
    From tomorrow, Government support for farmers and growers affected by drought will be expanded and extended across the country, with access to Rural Assistance Payments (RAPS) available throughout the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chatham Islands, Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni announced. “These challenging conditions have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • COVID-19: Temporary changes to Education Act
    Parliament has passed amendments to legislation that give the Secretary of Education stronger powers to act in the fight to limit the spread of COVID-19, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “They are part of a suite of changes passed under the COVID-19 Response (Urgent Management Measures) Legislation Bill,” Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar join NZ and Singapore in committing to keeping supply a...
    Canada, Australia, Chile, Brunei and Myanmar have joined forces with New Zealand and Singapore by committing to keep supply chains open and remove any existing trade restrictive measures on essential goods, especially medical supplies, in the face of the Covid-19 crisis.  Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker today welcomed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • COVID-19: Rent increase freeze and more protection for tenants
    Immediate freeze on rent increases Tenancies will not be terminated during the lock-down period, unless the parties agree, or in limited circumstances Tenants who had previously given notice can stay in their if they need to stay in the tenancy during the lock-down period Tenants will still be able to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Working together to protect businesses and workers
    As New Zealand unites to lock-down in the fight against COVID-19, the Finance Minister is urging all businesses and workers to stay connected over the next four weeks. “We understand the extreme pressure many businesses are under right now. I know most business owners think of their workers as family ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • State of National Emergency declared to fight COVID-19
    A State of National Emergency has been declared across the country as the Government pulls out all the stops to curtail the spread of COVID-19. “Today we put in place our country’s second ever State of National Emergency as we fight a global pandemic, save New Zealanders’ lives and prevent ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Prime Minister’s statement on State of National Emergency and Epidemic Notice
    Mr Speaker I wish to make a Ministerial Statement under Standing Order 347 in relation to the recent declaration of a State of National Emergency. Having considered the advice of the Director Civil Defence Emergency Management, the Minister of Civil Defence declared a State of National Emergency for the whole of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Deadline for domestic travel extended
    People needing to travel on domestic flights, trains and Cook Strait ferries to get home before the country moves into level 4 lock-down tomorrow night will be able to continue using the passenger services until midnight on Friday, Transport Minister Phil Twyford said today. Domestic passenger services, particularly ferries, have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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