Nasty Nats Steal Holidays

Written By: - Date published: 5:05 pm, November 7th, 2010 - 34 comments
Categories: Minister for Overseas Holidays, national/act government, workers' rights - Tags: , , , ,

This NAct government is so anti-worker that they have managed to re-arrange the calendar so that we get 5 fewer holidays in this government’s term than the last Labour one.  And that’s before they sell off our 4th week.

That’s an average of 1.67 fewer per year – with 2 fewer this year and next, and 1 fewer in the first year.  The latest insult is organising for Anzac day to fall on Easter Monday – something that’s not happened before in history.  Our Anzac allies all get a fair suck of the sav and a 5 day Easter.  We get nowt.

It’s the second year in a row we’ll miss out on both Anzac Day and Waitangi Day – and we lost Anzac Day in 2009 as well.  The government has ruled out Mondayising (now there’s an awful word for a great concept) Waitangi Day, but only ranks special legislation for an extra Easter holiday as “extremely unlikely” – now there’s an opening!

The serious side of this is that the government will be allowing many employers to take the 4th week of holiday off workers.  Yes it will be “consensual” – although try asking any employee if they’ve really felt they had much option on their employment conditions when they signed on for a new job.  I know I “consented” to opt-out of the EU working-hours directive at every job I had in the UK as I wanted to actually be employed…

That fourth week is part of trying to reduce worker stress.  Without it, those workers may or may not get a little bit more money, but they certainly won’t get the opportunity to be as “relaxed” as the Minister for Overseas Holidays, John Key.

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34 comments on “Nasty Nats Steal Holidays”

  1. SHG 1

    The government “organised” this, did it?

    • Lanthanide 1.1

      Yeah, I really think this post should be written differently. They government clearly haven’t “organised” this situation, however they have also done absolutely nothing to resolve it when they easily could if they chose.

    • Marty G 1.2

      my mate bunji is clearly taking the piss about them ‘arranging’ the calendar.

      but they have ruled out mondayisation

  2. Herodotus 2

    bunji- yo are forgetting those that work on the weekends. Sure if they do work Easter/ANZAC day there is not 2 days in lieu. So by Mondayising you are commentingthat Sat/Sun workers do not deserve Stat days on their roster/schedule., whilst those who can get work on Monday get more days than the rest off, sounds a bit white collar thinking to me.
    Whilst the heirachy on a philosophical basis (anti anything Nat) are against the 4th week being cashed in, how about surveying those of us that in some years may require the extra weeks wages in cash rather than days off, Bunji we live in a low pay high cost country, and 1 weeks wages may just make a difference.
    I suppose part of Labs election promise will to restore 11 stat days for 2012 to 2014 should they get voted back in (this is one promise I am sure they could keep), unless NZ1 or someone else beats them to it 😉

    • Lanthanide 2.1

      Um, no, I believe the idea of “Mondayising” that Bunji is talking about is exactly what is currently implemented for Christmas, Boxing Day and the Near Years Day holidays.

      That is, if the holiday falls in the weekend, and you *normally* work in the weekend, you get it as a stat day. If you do not normally work in the weekend, but work on Monday and/or Tuesday, you get those days as stat instead.

      • Herodotus 2.1.1

        There are some who work weekends and Monday, do they only get 1 day and miss out on the other? Regards Christmas/Boxing Day and the 2 New Years day observance that has been tradition. I would be interested to see any major political party supporting that we observe these 4 days on the days that they fall. A real vote catcher policy !!!
        So for the Train Spotters how frequent is ANZAC Day and Easter being on the same day?
        On the good side 1 less day that we have to pay the 20% surcharge for a coffee, sausage roll and a cream bun.

        • Lanthanide 2.1.1.1

          If you work weekends and Monday, then you get the day on which the holiday falls as your stat day (eg, the weekend). There’s no double-dipping here, everyone gets exactly 1 stat day but when they get it depends on their roster.

          Also, it’s not “tradition” how the holidays for Xmas/New Years work, but the Holidays act that Labour passed during their last term in Government, I believe it was in 2005 but could be wrong.

          • Herodotus 2.1.1.1.1

            When I refer to traditional. These days were observed initially when NZ was a Mon- Fri 8:00-5:00 working society. And bar a very few exceptions workers received the benefit of these days off. I am unsure Waitangi/NZ Day and ANZAC are observed on the actual days. I could guess that this is in reverence to these 2 special days. Especially ANZAC to observe the actual day gives it added meaning than ANZAC is on say Sat/Sun but we have the holiday on Monday. Mixed messages and for me by observing Mon lessnens the gratitude and remeberence for those who have served.( A bit like 11/11 Armistic day.)
            And as said before could you imagine the backlash to the 4 days at Christmas if we observed the days that they fell on.
            p.s. A cheep shoch so we own Lab for this doulble up as I am sure in 05 they were aware of this Easter/ANZAC day looming and did nothing !!! mmm hahah

          • Carol 2.1.1.1.2

            I think that’s the way it is for Xmas & New Year currently, when the public holidays fall on a weekend: workers get the stat holiday depending when they norally work. But I believe that’s one of the things that is included in the prooposed changes to the holiday laws. NACT is planning to change it so the employer can decide which day is the public holiday. So, as I understand it, employers could say Xmas day is not your public holiday.

        • Vicky32 2.1.1.2

          Those surcharges are simply greed! Bosses simply pass on to the public something that is actually their own responsibility. I have avoided those surcharges by refusing to shop at businesses that impose them. Simple! (Bakers Delight for instance, won’t get my custom..)
          Deb

  3. Colonial Viper 3

    The latest insult is organising for Anzac day to fall on Easter Monday

    I think this is a blunder which could blow back on NAT. A lot of young people have been turning up at dawn services and will want to do so again – except they will be on holidays out of time. This move is not going to be at all popular either with them or with the RSAs.

  4. ghostwhowalksnz 4

    It figures !
    Once we knew they were canning our childrens laughter and selling it for song there would be no stopping them.
    Next they will be promoting Christchurch earthquake for disaster tourism…… oops too late
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10685490

  5. M 5

    The fourth week should not be allowed to be sold off. As a sole charge worker who has a compulsory close-down at Christmas this ensures I get a decent break as the rest of the year is usually flat out.

    A tiara is an appropraite accessory for Duck and Cover because we have a man? who is posing as the PM in drag.

    • Herodotus 5.1

      The Holidays act ensures that you do have an extened holiday period. From memory you have to have 10 or 14 days unintereupted leave. Should you have taken all your entitlements but not had a extended period off (And agreed to waiver this period) you have (Had) a right to have paid leave for this 2 week period, even if you have none available. A bit messy in the way I have worded this, yet I am sure that there are some out there more familiar with the current act as to your entitlements. As I have been out of this area since Lab modified the holidays act. This continuation of leave is notthat well known.

    • Jum 5.2

      Hope you get your wish M. The Christmas Pudding mix, which is still in the basin awaiting steaming, will be stirred by me once more on your behalf to help you get your wish. Christmas Puddings are powerful conduits to the human ethos of doing good for humanity.

    • Vicky32 5.3

      That would probably explain why I *never* got *any* holidays at all during the 3 and a half years I was a sole charge admin person… (the extended Christmas shut down happened one year and it was the year before the February when the company went bust…)
      I had accumulated theoretical holidays, for which I was never paid when my employment came to an abrupt end, and when I asked for holidays during those 3 years and change, I was told that I couldn’t be spared…I put up with it, as I wanted to stay employed, but I am sure that if I had got as far as employment court (there were many reasons for my grievance, but officialdom didn’t care) I probably would have been told that the Christmas shutdown constituted the 3 years of holidays I never got…
      Deb

      • M 5.3.1

        Deb

        In my position I do the payroll and HR so know the law and the management know that they can’t pull any fast ones at any time so I’ll get my four weeks at Christmas. Oftentimes I feel like a sentry guarding my fellow workers’ rights because knowledge is power and I would never cave in on a staff/pay matter – it helps that I love my job and my work can’t be faulted as I write a fair amount of business.

        It makes me sick when I come across people who have been shafted like you – one can only hope that karma waves the big stick for unscrupulous employers who defraud workers of their wages – if you’re of a religious bent I believe it is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for venegence.

        I hope like hell this evil, limp-dick government is sent packing next year as I’d like to see that inane smirk wiped off Key’s face.

        • Vicky32 5.3.1.1

          Thanks M, for your support! (The sad thing is that I didn’t even realise for the first 18 months that I was being cheated…)

  6. Tanz 6

    This site is very anti-John, where do you find the pics?

    • felix 6.1

      Eh? You mean ‘cos he looks like a half-pissed, smug, arrogant bell-end? Try finding a picture of Sir John where he doesn’t.

  7. Aron Watson 7

    Under this govt, I’m surprised we even get the weekend off, let alone have holidays.

  8. Tanz 8

    Do you all envy him his vast fortune, his fame and his celebrity? I agree though, he often looks a bit smug. I don’t think he means it that way.

  9. Colonial Viper 9

    Half an hour after downing his next one he was probably speaking in the House.

  10. Tanz 10

    I could be a Remuerarite, for all you know. Whatever.!

  11. Tea Partier 11

    I did read somewhere that:

    Key travelled back decades in his Evil Tory Time Machine and lobbied for our holidays to be set on the very days they currently are on, so the workers (he referred to as “parasites” – overhead by a Labour Activist who snuck into a National Party Conference) had to work harder, he stated “I only wish I could get away with making them work for free”…

    Actually that was on this site wasn’t it..?

    • felix 11.1

      Um, I think you’ve used the same email address for two different names there Jeremy.

      • Jeremy Harris 11.1.1

        Yeah I was reading a post on some American blog I’d never read before (was reading about the mid terms) and wanted to post anonymously, a comment I just had to refute, and had that blog’s window and this open at the same time… I put the wrong name in this blog and posted on the US blog as Jeremy Harris, whoops…

  12. I am impressed. If John can rearrange the calendars I am hoping he can arrange a nice long hot summer for us all. Maybe he could also give me the winning lotto numbers?

    Best laugh I’ve had in ages. If I was any of your employers and you really thought that this was a deliberate conspiracy, I’d be questioning why I’d hire somebody so ridiculously stupid. 🙂

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    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
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  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
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  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
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  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
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  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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