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mickysavage - Date published:
7:00 am, April 6th, 2018 - 47 comments
Categories: christchurch earthquake, david clark, Economy, Gerry Brownlee, labour, Media, national, same old national, Simon Bridges, spin, the praiseworthy and the pitiful, you couldn't make this shit up -
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The daily release of hidden fiscal horrors is occurring at pace. Clearly Steven Joyce was right about there being a $11.7 billion dollar hole in Labour’s fiscal policy update. The problem for National is that a series of financial time bombs were hidden in the Government’s accounts and no one but them knew. And the time bombs are only seeing daylight now.
We have already had the fiasco of the underspend in Health. There was further bad news recently as Tom Curley on Radio New Zealand disclosed that a further three Middlemore Hospital buildings had serious issues. From the article:
The extent of the Counties Manukau District Health Board’s building woes is even worse than first thought.
RNZ has been reporting on hospital buildings at Middlemore Hospital that are full of rot and potentially dangerous mould. There’s also asbestos present and raw sewage leaking into the walls.
The District Health Board has said it became aware as early as 2012 it had four badly leaking buildings; Scott Building, Kidz First, SuperClinic Complex and the McIndoe Building.
A briefing document to unions shows many more buildings are affected.
A 2017 facilities stocktake rates each of the DHB’s buildings from a high level of concern through to no concern.
While the SuperClinic was among the high concern buildings, the McIndoe, Kidz First were considered medium concern with leaky Scott Building only low.
Seven buildings were considered of “high concern” with asbestos, leaks, critical infrastructure problems and some seismic concerns.
The buildings include the Colvin Complex, which is home to patient wards, the Western Campus and the Otara Spinal Unit.
A total of 16 buildings are in the high or medium concern categories.
When asked for more details, Counties Manukau DHB did not directly address questions, instead saying they would be considered under the Official Information Act.
The primary cause of the problems is good old fashioned penny pinching. It is international best practice for Health organisations to budget 3% of their total spend for maintenance. Middlemore has been receiving less than half the amount it needed ($15 million) to do this work properly. And the consequences are now appearing.
There are dozens of other examples. Health Minister David Clark’s estimate that $14 billion would be needed to sort the problems out does not seem extreme in the slightest.
Simon Bridges is refusing to accept blame. Maybe magic pixies were in control of the country for the past nine years and not National.
And other problems are now appearing and the former Government’s response is pretty underwhelming. Two days ago it was announced that the cost of re-repairs for botched up Christchurch Eaerthquake repair jobs was $160m. But then the kicker. It was disclosed yesterday that the cash amounts paid out inflated this figure to $270 million.
Gerry Brownlee said in 2016 that it was $60 to $70 million. The figure seemed to be far too low at the time.
And just remember. This is not the cost of repairs. This is the cost of fixing botched repairs and paying cash in compensation rather than fixing botched repairs.
And it may not be the end. Local lawyers think that the final cost could double.
Comment was sought from Brownlee. He replied by hanging up on John Campbell without giving us the benefit of an explanation.
National’s current spokesperson on the Christchurch rebuild, Stuart Smith, was more willing to discuss the matter. He says EQC should be seeking reimbursement if a contractor hasn’t lived up to its obligations. There might be something in the small print of the contract that Brownlee negotiated that means this is difficult. And given that logic I think there is a stunning case to seek reimbursement of Brownlee’s Ministerial salary because in my humble opinion he certainly has not lived up to his obligations.
Well done Radio New Zealand for its dogged following of this story. Current political issues surrounding the broadcaster should not have occurred. Radio New Zealand is a precious flower that should be protected from adverse criticism, warranted or otherwise. And generating media noise is not helpful to the cause.
And National should hang its head in shame for suggesting that Labour was going to cut funding for the rebuild.
Here is the evidence, a statement from Nicky Wagner. From the National Party website:
There has been widespread concern in the Christchurch community that Labour has rescinded some of the funding appropriated by National to support the rebuild of Christchurch, National Party Spokesperson for Greater Christchurch Regeneration Nicky Wagner says.
“With Labour’s recent record of promise and back track, it’s not surprising that the Christchurch community was worried that the funding set aside by National for Christchurch may not be available,” Mrs Wagner says.
“Fortunately, in response to my questions in the House today the Minister for Greater Regeneration Megan Woods has confirmed that they will honour National’s funding appropriations for Christchurch.
How [deleted because it is a swear word] stupid do you have to [deleted because it is a swear word] be to [deleted because it is a swear word] suggest that Labour would [deleted because it is a swear word] [deleted because it is a swear word] around with funding for the Christchurch rebuild when every time it talks about the [deleted because it is a swear word] subject it [deleted because it is a swear word] says that [deleted because it is a swear word] not enough is [deleted because it is a swear word] being [deleted because it is a swear word] done and [deleted because it is a swear word] more should [deleted because it is a swear word] occur?
I mean there is politics and there is stupid. Wagner’s suggestion Labour was not going to fund elements of the rebuild was conclusively in the second category.
But this example shows that the next few years are going to be rough. Labour and the Greens are going to have to be on top of their game. And as a starting point they should be reminding everyone every chance they get that National’s claim that it is a party with a history of strong economic management is hogwash.
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“Clearly Steven Joyce was right about there being a $11.7 billion dollar hole in Labour’s fiscal policy”
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[Ta fixed – MS]
“Wagner’s suggestion Labour was not going to fund elements of the rebuild was conclusively in the second category.”
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[Ta fixed although Wanger has a ring about it! – MS]
“Steven Joyce”
“deceitful dildo-head” (this one is suggestatory)
Haha this one is in danger of catching in!
Lol the hard working MP Nicky Wagner who would rather be out on the harbour than helping those with disabilities, her actual job.
Steven Joyce was right the deficit was there but it was far bigger before the election so they hid it all as the bad press would have sent them out the door for 20yrs as the deficit is about to be released shortly when Grant robertson releases his budget and all those glossy figures previously forecast will vanish as we learn that NZ is simply broke and penniless now since nationals “strong economic management also will vanish into air as we learn all the unpaid bills the national Government left hidden in the closet from us finally appears.
Damn the national party with their lies and deceit.
Yet they borrowed $90 Billion! What [deleted because it is a swear word] did they spend it all on?
They never spent it. It was laundered / divied up to foreign offshore shareholders.
And if any of you people are actually serious about starting from a standpoint of understanding , – and not just palavering around because you find the conversation mildly stimulating to massage your egos about being some sort of ‘ intellect’…
Then you would take seriously the historical origins of neo liberalism in this country , and moreover, – WHO did it , WHY they did it , and just HOW they did it.
And you can read all about it right here :
New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html
Lay off the magic mushrooms spiderboy your hallucinating.
No, that would be you as you continue to believe National’s lies.
Actually no… he’s spot on. The GFC and earthquakes gave National the perfect cover to loot the NZ economy for their donors in the form of bailouts and PPPs.
don’t forget nationals 2008 tax cuts that cost us billions.
national has done it again they wreak the country every time they leave power
And losing billions by their mismanagement of the super fund
Naki man,
Was Wild Katipo getting ‘to close to the truth’ for your “comfort”?
So that would like as if you are one of the “New Right Fight” swindlers also.
“Consultants”
Don’t forget they also sold million of dollars of our state owned assets Sarah and they borrowed heavily . And to top it of Mr Cullen aka Mr mick scrooge left the gnats a nice surplus. Now we have simon ten bridges saying once again they were good economic managers. The gnats hypocrisy is disgusting.
I love the heartfelt rage to this Mickey.
I have a reasonably privileged life, and work reasonably hard to operate within the social and economic systems available. Usually. Apart from activism.
But I am seeing more and more of what used to be a functioning society crumble faster at the edges in this last decade. It is damaging my wider family with hard drugs and with families torn apart and as a result children and their futures permanently damaged.
My wider family is very, very conscious of its settler roots, and worked very hard like tradies, bushmen, fishermen, and drystock farmers do. But more of them are going backward – damaged, unhealthy, futureless, subsiding, and looking forward to the mere state pension. They have great networks and they support each other.
It’s still not enough.
The social and economic deficits from the last nine years are so huge, so damaging, so widespread, that it is very hard to describe the previous government as good at economic management.
They certainly kept bits of the state alive and strong. But that’s not the same as a strong country. Or strong neighbourhoods. Or strong families.
It beggars belief that previous Prime Minister John Key believes his greatest regret was not changing our national flag.
This is a different start to a government, in that most major “reveals” of financial holes are done in the first PREFU. But what we are getting is what Helen Clark encountered 19 years ago: deficit after deficit after deficit, failure after failure, with the rare few creaming it and not giving a flying fuck about anyone else.
I will try and keep my hopes up that this current government will start really leading, and not continually stumbling, but there is a very thin skin to scratch until you see that gaping mental damage underneath this society. Simply too many have been working their guts out and going backward, and that wreckage I can see all around me.
Good comment. It has often been said that National is great at the politics but appalling at the governing …
Right on the money Ad. My family are the same and utterly fragmented as we are now well into our second generation of FIFO workers . Since the 1830’s my family have worked on both sides of the Tasman and resided and raised their families in NZ and Aussie.We are now treated like filth in Aussie despite being skilled workers and professionals . treated like shit by authorities who haven’t resided in this part of the world for 180 years like my whanau have. That my great great grandparents achieved so much only to have their descendants made tenants in both NZ and Australia speaks volumes about how our political class has absolutely betrayed us.
Grant Robertson would be within his rights to A. Call this a state of emergency, borrow 15 billion and to forgo fiscal restraint.
B. place a surcharge on all incomes above $150 000
C. Publish the repair/replacement costs with the name of the National minister and the builders responsible for the debacle.. Suing where possible, explaining why not where possible.
The recent talk of the Coalition Government being in disarray was actually a picture of the last National Government and add ons. Especially Brownlee and Joyce.
National allowed Fletcher’s building arm to do shoddy work and do contracting. They have allowed them to separate their liabilities in such a way the building arm is effectively a broken shell.
How do these people engineer these scams and walk away?
They have taken huge profits… now the taxpayer will have to pay again thanks to their perfidy.
It is why they are a distracting chorus of “Look over here !” Hiding their own pile of poop.
Wait till the Auckland Convention Centre build is done and costs are all known and Fletcher chases up Sky City and then finds a clause in the contract meaning the government has to pay !
The Government gave the 3150-person Convention Centre the green light in May, after SkyCity came back with a new design that will not require a taxpayer top-up.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/72177163/skycity-convention-centre-gets-green-light-council-grants-consent
Looks like going over that cost would have meant Government funding ( One of Key and Joyces ‘deals’)….. oops look whats happened now , the cost is some $100’s millions over.
The whole business premise of Sky City conference centre was that it was supposed to be able to hold large conferences, when they reduced the size that was not possible, the entire business case (which was fake anyway) did not stand up. Yet still they go ahead.
I believe a poll showed over 90% did NOT want sky city to receive government money. Even the Natz voters thought enough was enough!
I see that Colin Espiner, GM Communications, SkyCity has today replied to the claims you made in your comment in OM 27 March 2018 re Sky City and zero contracts and importing 600 chefs from overseas. An interesting read at
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27-03-2018/#comment-1470852
Great to see you supporting Sky City – reposting on their behalf from quite a while ago. Very telling.
But sorry I should have said SkyCity applied to bring in 40 chefs from overseas… and their pay rates at the time were very low, such as a commis chefs, a junior position that SkyCity paid $16.49 an hour for – only $1.08 more than the minimum wage.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/08/07/must-read-migration-chefs-and-essential-skills/
Also in relation to the 2.2 billion taxpayers are now paying in subsidies for low waged employees… link below
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2018/04/minimum-wage-a-subsidy-for-business-owners.html
It is an interesting link to read.
Not sure if this is correct but apparently Greg Sawyers (Auckland councillor) is saying that Auckland council debt is skyrocketing to 2 million a day under Phil Goff.
Auckland 10 year budget balloons to 12.6 billion and interest payments are nearly 1.3 million a day.
Next year employee costs alone, will equate to 50% of the annual rates revenue.
Plenty of articles about their IT is out of control, AT is out of control, Ports of Auckland is out of control, and now employee costs. Some incredible figures are spent on PR for a start as well as the CEO structure which should just be thrown out and we go back to the old days that worked. Mayor, councillors and the council has no COO’s with fat cat salaries…
Then maybe they can cut out that spending money for Westfield malls, billionaire yachts marinas and their own salaries can be cut down and instead they solve the problems they created in conjunction with government to bring in so many people who need Auckland infrastructure, who should never have been given the go ahead until the money for the infrastructure was in the bank, the houses were already built, the roads and public transport working, the sewerage and waste water separated property and pollution under control and the hospitals and schools with free capacity for more people.
They were bought in for companies like Sky City to keep wages as low as possible (applying to bring in 40 chefs does not seem to equate with the CEO views that they train chefs on site) , but everyone else has had to pay for cheap businesses, well beyond the 2.2 billion in government subsidies for just the low wages but also in council rates and ballooning debt and the much poorer quality of life, lowering everyone else productivity due to congestion, now more petrol charges, beaches closures etc.
No Savenz – the reply was this afternoon 6 April. You just don’t like the fact that it challenges your assertions. I am a facts person not a lies person.
Are you suggesting this is not true….
“Occasionally, Unite gets consulted by MBIE over whether a particular company’s application for the right to bring in labour from overseas should be approved. In November 2014, we got one about the SkyCity Casino. It seems they wanted to bring in about 40 chefs of various sorts. I assume SkyCity, too, are claiming they can’t find people in New Zealand to do this work. Fourteen of the positions were for commis chefs, a junior position that SkyCity they currently pay $16.49 an hour for – only $1.08 more than the minimum wage.”
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/08/07/must-read-migration-chefs-and-essential-skills/
I think that you are reposting SkyCity marketing communications from March says a lot about why you are on this site.
savenz why did your figures go from 600 chefs to 40 with no explanation? We do need the discussion about why companies are bringing in so many workers and not doing any training, I am not sure of the claim of biggest apprentice amount of chefs except for the army from SkyCity but if there are no facts on the table then they can not be disproved.
From your 6.1.1.1.1.1 above
“Great to see you supporting Sky City – reposting on their behalf from quite a while ago.”
From your unnumbered immediately above that I am now replying to:
“I think that you are reposting SkyCity marketing communications from March says a lot about why you are on this site.”
Again, for the record, the comment I pointed you to was from Colin Espiner filed at 3.06pm yesterday, Friday, 6 April 2018 – not March!
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27-03-2018/#comment-1470852
It is a reply from Colin Espiner to claims that you made in OM 27 March but his reply was not in March it was yesterday, 6 April.
You have now said in 6.1.1.1.1.that the 600 chefs you claimed was meant to be 40 chefs – ie in line with the quote you have provided in your comment immediately above – from The Daily Blog.
Now that is interesting because less than two days ago at 6.01pm on 5 April – on The Daily Blog – you were again making similar claims to those you posted here in OM on 27 March 2018, namely:
It’s like the PHD migrant gets rejected while the 600 Chefs at Sky City or the fake cafe worker on $16.50 p/h with no degree gets the green light from immigration.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/04/05/dear-green-party-of-nz-if-you-arent-too-busy-why-the-hell-are-the-overseas-investment-office-this-actually-maybe-i-should-just-go-straight-to-david-parker/#comment-422306
It was seeing that on TDB and then see Colin Espiner’s comment here on TS yesterday that actually drew my attention to your OM 27 March comments – hence my alerting you to the fact that CE had finally replied to your March claims, in case you missed it.
To be blunt I hardly ever read your comments because I usually find them riddled with unsubstantiated claims – and cannot be bothered with them. They are also usually Auckland focussed and I am a Wellingtonian and have never lived in Auckland. I have never been to Sky City and probably will never bother doing so if in Auckland.
As for being on this site, I was a reader right from its early days and took some years before commenting.
Espiner has also been a intermittent commenter here for many years, right back to at least 2009:
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-myth-of-objective-journalism/#comment-169000
That post is an interesting one if only for the people who commented here on TS at the time – Eddie, the Sprout, Trevor Mallard, Lew, rocky, IrishBill, tiger mountain, Graeme Edgeler, Danyl McClaughlan, Russell Brown, Fran O’Sullivan. Some would say those were the days.
For many years, links to Espiner’s blog was also carried in the TS Feeds section in the right hand column. He and people like Lprent have had many interesting conversations here over the years.
But are you going to do the decent thing and also correct your very recent claims on TDB re Sky City’s 600 chefs? Bet you don’t.
Some of the Green Party members/supporters here on TS would probably be interested in your several comments re the Greens under that particular post – particularly Solkta whose comment here on TS you directly quoted under that post in your comment dated 6 April at 9.59am.
Definitely.
The government should declare a state of emergency.
Then it should nationalise the banks, insurance companies and transport.
A significantly progressive tax regime should be put in place and corporate bludgers should be shown the door – unless they pay a significant tax contribution.
And as stated above a people’s court set up as a means to deal with the traitors who sold this country.
The government should stop tinkering and act.
😆 and 🙄
“The government should declare a state of emergency.
Then it should nationalise the banks, insurance companies and transport“
And watch their government implode in a couple of days
there is more to come out about fletcher in Christchurch and where the money actually ended up.and there fat is chance of getting any of the money back in fact fletcher are unlikely to be a going concern.
I very much doubt any NZ gov will want to be responsible for placing Fletchers into bankruptcy….thats why National raised the issue of suing them
I am with Patricia on this, ‘This earthquake history is a globally recognised human tragedy already now.’
And if the labour Caucus or Government refuse to “borrow yet another $15 billion from foreign banks “to forgo fiscal restraint.” – then Grant Robinson should follow his ‘coalition’ partner’s plan (Winston Peters) he will have to enact the “reserve bank Act”.
( As we have done before) and use (QE) as many others have already done, – to print the “emergency funds” (under the Reserve bank Act) to avoid more crippling foreign interest costs on the borrowing from foreign banks for this $15 Billion of “emergency” funding for our “essential services”.
Why is it that NZ was among very few who have not yet printed money (QE).as most of our global trading partners have done so to give them “financial advantage over us”?
You forgot to mention their legacy of flooding NZ with hundreds of thousands of low waged workers
Minimum wage a ‘subsidy’ for business owners
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2018/04/minimum-wage-a-subsidy-for-business-owners.html
Another narrative that needs changing.
If you voted for the National Party then you would have to believe they are the better economic managers. That then is what 44.5% of those that voted in the last election believe. That confirms in my mind Muldoon was partly right back in the 1970’s when he said most voters wouldn’t know a deficit if they saw one. The other part that is evident today is that a fair number of voters are essentially just plain greedy, easily conned and swayed by the PR merchants and corporate media.
And lets face it, National’s prime agenda is to keep Labour away from the treasury benches.
I note that MS’s excellent post went up at 7am this morning and thus does not appear to provide a link to the section on Christchurch EQC this morning on Morning Report when, not to be outdone by Richard Griffin’s “performance” yesterday before the Select Committee, Brownlee put on his own piece of theatre. Well worth a listen!
This RNZ News article which contains the link to the audio of the Morning Report Espiner/Brownlee interview is self explanatory:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/354266/brownlee-on-eqc-repair-bill-blow-out-you-can-t-walk-away
This follows the two excellent Checkpoint sessions on Weds and Thurs nights which MS has provided links to in his post, under these two paras in the post itself:
And other problems are now appearing and the former Government’s response is pretty underwhelming .. Two links under ‘160m’ and under ‘270 million.
National’s current spokesperson on the Christchurch rebuild, Stuart Smith, was more willing to discuss the matter. He says’EQC should be seeking reimbursement if a contractor hasn’t lived up to its obligations’. Link under this latter phrase in the post.
What I don’t get is why MSM keeps printing the lies,
Who is pulling their strings?
National was advised to enact petrol tax increases in the 2017-2020 period to afford their transport programme, Simon Bridges says they rejected the advice and said they instead decided to re-schedule projects.
My question is whether the voters were informed of this – as to which projects would have been deferred? Reminds me of the promise to build a new Dunedin hospital which which kept being repeated because …
The more we hear about the conduct of the insurance companies after Christchurch ( thanks Checkpoint for pursuing this) , the more it becomes apparent we should nationalise the insurance industry.
They do not serve the citizens of this country.
Instead they act on behalf of their shareholders – the finance industry.
We should remove these corporations from our country.
we could but ultimately they answer to the reinsurers whether nationalised or not…we could run our own reinsurance but I wonder if the political pressures would cause some very poor decisions
that was a labour policy in 2014 called kiwi insure the idea was keep the premiums in new zealand and help reduce the deficit but the people loved the con man key.so here we are nact has pulled an enron style book cooking fraud.
The story “Brownlee’s claim that repairs weren’t botched ‘outrageous’ – lawyer” on the RNZ News website shows the evidence that the penny-pinching of the previous National government even extended deep into the Christchurch rebuild and that Brownlee’s claims that subsequent repairs that had to be redone could have been caused by subsequent earthquakes or may not even have been structural is a false claim.
This proves that of course the previous government “never walked away from Christchurch”, no in fact far from walking they were just slowly sneaking away a little at a time!
Read the full story here
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/354313/brownlee-s-claim-that-repairs-weren-t-botched-outrageous-lawyer
“However he said he believed that changed in February 2011 when EQC figured out that it would not have enough money.”
“EQC appeared to adopt a strategy to do the least amount of work, he said.”
“He said bad scoping was at the foundation of almost all the problems.”
After the 2010 quake EQC were throwing money at claims like there was no tomorrow, then Feb 2011 hit and the reinsurers threatened to pull the pin, AMI was in the shit and EQC needed a new plan….that plan required a reduction in costs….both to the Gov and the Insurance industry.
Everything EQC did from that point (aided by various other organisations) was designed to meet those new targets and involved deliberate refusal to consider any evidence contrary to their position all the way to the courts….a position demanded and facilitated by the Minister.
That had the entirely foreseeable result of the vulnerable and financially challenged being left to carry the cost of those savings while those with the wherewithal used their ability to fight back on an individual basis (a long expensive and psychologically challenging fight in most cases)….your winners and losers, two speed recovery.
Everything that has occured has been predicted since the very early days and dismissed by those in positions to remedy it as the ravings of a few disaffected individuals when in fact it was a systemic and deliberate policy….a search back over the multitude of news pieces and social media of the past seven years clearly demonstrate it.
Fuck National and fuck Brownlee.
Every aspect of NZ has been penny pinched to where the rot is now just coming to light of all the stuff that National has been underfunding under their reign. The majority of the money they borrowed was just to pay for tax cuts and hardly any of it was spent on things it should have been. All that money John Key pissed away on his vanity flag referendum was money badly needed by the EQC and the health system. As the months roll on we will start to see even more of the hidden rot that National just painted a glossy coat of paint over to hide from the public. I do wonder how well built all those fancy roads they had put in are. Will they start to crumble and need major repair in just a few years time as well? Is any of that cheap steel they used even worse grade than they believed and going to come back to bite NZ in just a few years time?