On Auckland and Leningrad

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1. Zaphod Beeblebrox 1

   24 May 2009 at 3:57 pm

   The problem with this analogy is that Stalin would have had to start the invasion of his own country. The RC was Helen Clark’s creation.
   Lets face it, the regionalisation of services has been on the cards for a long time. The problem is that it has been hi jacked and taken to the extreme by individuals who don’t understand the nature of the beast and who come from a right wing ideology.
   Even National MPs are staring to realise that we cannot centralise every service and that local input counts.
   Rodney had better be careful, he may turn around and find his army has deserted.
2. Ianmac 2

   24 May 2009 at 4:35 pm

   The timing does appear to be strange but in the Budget next week will they pull one out of the hat? My brother always said that elected Governments aren’t stupid. They know what they are doing. In this case they certainly have a wealth of advisers so what will they produce to rock the people into wild and noisy support? Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of Superkey and his Merry Band of Robbers!!
3. Anthony Karinski 3

   24 May 2009 at 4:49 pm

   “Ich frage euch: Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?”

   I hope you’re right. Don’t think Rodney’s war cry will be met with the same resounding “Yes” that Goebbles’ did. More likely it will be an overwhelming “No!”
4. jarbury 4

   24 May 2009 at 4:57 pm

   It will be interesting to see how big the Hikoi tomorrow in Auckland turns out to be. I think that the government has under-estimated the opposition to their Super-City dream, and in particular how they’re ramming it through.
   • Anita 4.1

     24 May 2009 at 5:03 pm

     Yeah, I’m interested in the weather effects too 🙂 On the one negative side the weather is shite, on the positive many of the hikoi paths have travel-by-car which is a useful countermeasure. On the so-so side the weather’s been crap for days, so people might be used to it by now, or they may have decided several days ago to only go if the weather gets better.
   • The Baron 4.2

     24 May 2009 at 5:19 pm

     Yes, well I think both sides are waiting to see whether this is going to be a massive outpouring of Auckland angst; or just a few malcontents blocking traffic.

     I seriously doubt it will be as large as the Foreshore and Seabed Hikoi though… how did that one end up? Oh that’s right – legislation went through regardless.

     Petty point scoring aside, I think that both could be examples of how powerful our unicameral parliament can be at times… bring back the Legislative Council!
     • mike 4.2.1

       25 May 2009 at 7:44 pm

       “both sides are waiting to see whether this is going to be a massive outpouring of Auckland angst; or just a few malcontents blocking traffic.”

       Definitely the latter judging by the news tonight
5. The Baron 5

   24 May 2009 at 5:12 pm

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

   FAIL
   • QoT 5.1

     24 May 2009 at 9:56 pm

     ‘Cept for that whole “tactic first used in Spanish civil war and incidentally first conceived by British strategists” thing, sure.
6. jarbury 6

   24 May 2009 at 5:40 pm

   The foreshore & seabed one was a bit more strictly Maori than this one seems to be though. I don’t (I think) have any Maori in me, so would have felt a bit odd in the last Hikoi – yet I will be there tomorrow and I’m sure that I’ll feel right at home protesting against the Super-City being bulldozed through.

   That “broadness” should add to the numbers I think.

   The Hikoi should walk across the Harbour Bridge tomorroway – that would make it two pedestrian crossings in two days! Wayne McDonald from NZTA would be crapping himself.
7. QoT 7

   24 May 2009 at 5:51 pm

   Barbarossa also failed because Russia is f*cking HUGE, so encirclement was much more difficult than it had been in France, because the Germans bombed the railways to shreds and thus screwed their own supply lines, and because Hitler ignored his generals’ advice and prioritised taking Stalingrad over getting to Moscow. The Russian troops were thoroughly screwed from the get-go thanks to the Stalin’s hankering for purging everyone with strategic talents.

   I thoroughly agree with this post, I just also have to live with a WWII nut.
8. BLiP 8

   24 May 2009 at 6:14 pm

   Dopey me can’t find the details of the last stretch of the hikoi tomorrow – anyone know where abouts I can join for the last couple of miles or so?
   • BLiP 8.1

     24 May 2009 at 6:16 pm

     Ooops – found it now. Not on The Herald site, though!
9. Johnty Rhodes 9

   24 May 2009 at 10:19 pm

   Problem with this anology is that the masses are not behind Stalin (aka Labour/Greens) in defense of the 7 councils and you have no Georgi Zuhkov to plan defence against the Blitzkreig. Anyway Moscow was the great prize im 1941, not St Petersburg. I wonder what will happen to the partisans left behind the frontline running from the Bombays to Orewa?
10. the sprout 10

    25 May 2009 at 10:22 am

    the simple point, dear Johnty, is that a blitzkrieg requires several ducks to be lined up in a row, and optimal conditions for those duckies to do their business.
    there is no need for a Zhukov when these conditions aren’t met, the attack will fail because the preconidtions are not met.
11. Swampy 11

    27 May 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Godwin’s Law. Who invented and is most notorious for blitzkrieg.
12. Swampy 12

    27 May 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Anyone who believes this nonsense is a fool. You suppose that the National government wants to lose the 2011 election? Of course with a local government election in 2010 and many National MPs elected from around Auckland there is no likelihood of anything as claimed happening.

    I think basically I really have to ask who believes this nonsense, Roger Douglas may be back in Parliament but he is really out on a limb, and Rodney has not got enough clout by himself to push what is claimed through, they are just a minority partner in the government.

    Yet there is so much of this cant being put out by leftist politicians that you have to think of them as foaming at the mouth really, who is the more extreme?

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