Anyone tried “Tribel” social media application yet? Americans, including AOC and Cori Bush on what can be called their left, have been pumping it up the last few days.
According to google maps. About 2.1km walking – 26 minutes.
We're also conveniently placed at the corner of K Rd and Ponsonby for pre and post match social action.
Before large matches, the parking fills up early in the day.
Better now that they have put in parking meters – but now I really notice the matches. But they really should start charging for weekend days as well as weekdays. It often takes days to clear the excess of vehicles.
I’m not a fan of premium sport. Probably partially because I have spent most of my life living within walking distance of Eden Park and the kind of lack of consideration that sports grounds and fans often show to residents. Lights, action, cars (often parked across driveways and verges) and bloody planes buzzing around.
Turkey has detained a Russian cargo ship carrying alleged Ukrainian grain, Kyiv's ambassador to Turkey said on Sunday, according to Reuters.
Ambassador Vasyl Bondar said in an interview with Ukrainian television that Turkish custom authorities had seized the Zhibek Zholy, a Russian-flagged vessel carrying 7,000 tons of grain from the Russian-occupied port of Berdyansk, Reuters reported.
"We have full cooperation," Bondar said, according to the report. "The ship is currently standing at the entrance to the port; it has been detained by the customs authorities of Turkey."
The situation for Russia only gets worse. They are using their older munitions, with all of the issues that entails.They have limited resupply – probably almost entirely from local manufacture (I can't see anyone else shipping munitions to them). That all impacts on their ability to get air superiority and accurate bombardment wepons.
Hence the increasing use of dumb attacks on civilians with the ridiculous cover stories that are refuted by external journos on the ground.
They have used up most of their pre-invasion contract units. Dorsn’t sound like there is a rush of people towards getting contracted in. Reads like their only plan was a short victorious war with ni idea how to handle that not working.
The supply of equipment munitions, and supply of components to Ukraine is stepping up. They are getting toward being fully mobllised and trained. They are also in no mood for another shit-arse settlement in place – who in the hell could trust the Russian Federation again?
I wouldn't be so sure. It is almost impossible to get an accurate view of the state of the Ukrainian armed forces. Potentially they could be at the stage of the attritional battle where they are tottering on the brink of collapse, or they may be able to feed fresh troops into the fight. We just don't know.
I don't buy this….while Russia failed badly in its main objective it is now gaining and consolidating large tracts of land in the east….only this morning another key town fell (I forget the name). Once Russia has the whole of Dongbas and the areas around the Black Sea it will sue for peace with these not inconsiderable gains and the West will accede cravenly
@Iprent
You write your comment like it is undisputed fact..how about some links from some credible sources to back up all your assertions….as of course we all should when making controversial claims on important issues, I seem to remember being actively encouraged to do so by moderators myself.
That is my opinion based on a number of sources for a post that I was writing.
I'll be happy to drop in sources in a few days when I get time to finish the post. It got interrupted by a cold over the weekend. I'm behind at real work as well and back on excessive hours.
If you pick out your highest level of disagreement, then I will be happy to dig out links for that. But FFS, you only have to look at the legislation that is going through the Russian parliament at present. Looks like they’re trying to de-unionise their military repairs industry.
Erdogan is similar to Putin in that while Putin holds Tsarist fantasies of restoring the Romanov empire at it's fullest extent he has a yearning to reinvent modern Turkey into a major power, forget the Ataturk era and re-forge something akin to a new Ottoman empire.
They are both neo-Fascist dictators with all the usual romantic irridentist baggage that comes with that.
Basically any Leader that changes the laws or constitutional arrangements to allow new term limits or a ruler for life type scenario is despot in waiting.
Erdogan is between a rock and a hard place with Russia – there is cooperation over Syria and a shared border but at home he has to deal with 650 years of deeply-ingrained hostility and pressure from NATO.
"Hairy Maclary" ??? … more like Hairy Trans-smeary !!!
Dodd doesn't even attempt to portray pregnant male dogs of colour challenging cis-heteronormative-white-supremacist discursive strategies through a Lyotardian non-binary intersectional lens anchored within a Foucauldian trans-inclusive and anti-fatphobic theoretical understanding of systemic power relations.
One thing's for sure: Queer theorists of colour, mana wahine and the gender-nonconforming aren't even remotely safe while jackbooted neo-nazi thugs like Dodd are wandering the streets.
And I am sure it hasn’t gone unnoticed by other eagle eyed ‘unreconstructed 1970s feminists’ than myself that the books also do not mention separate changing rooms or toilet facilities.
If Lynley Dodd was of a mind to launch into revisions to Hairy’s gadding about in a non threatening biologically excretory focussed way ensuring that dogs were in the ascendant at all times this could be quickly remedied. Actually no poos or wees in the books and this is surely trying to inculcate other wordly thoughts as it is not possible for anyone or dog to go hours and hours without needing a toilet brak
Jordan Peterson recently claimed gender affirming surgery is a criminal act, just one which is not criminal right now. He calls gender affirming surgeons, "butchers", and likens them to those who carried out Nazi medical experiments:
The irony, for me anyway, is that the teachings of Jordan Peterson are far closer than gender affirming surgeons to Nazism.
Forced monogamy, and outlawing transgenderism, etc. These two things alone strongly reflect what Nazis were all about. Extreme social control by and for a selected majority.
Is Trump supporting, male to female, Blaire White a good source when looking for clinical evidence of benefits/harms of current interventions in trans healthcare? That is the source Puckish Rogue initiated this thread with.
I have not watched the Blaire White interview because it is 17 minutes long (I can watch stuff on the internet under 2 minutes, that's it), but I will admit she is slightly more credible than Jordan Peterson on this issue, so thank you for that.
When my children use the excuse they were only copying the behaviour of their siblings, my response is – that's not a good enough reason to do so. But you are not a child – and definitely not one of mine, so that's not appropriate.
If you want to find information rather than play footsies, visit SEGM.
If you have something going on with Puckish Rogue, you want to continue, go ahead…
So you don't watch the interview but you'll disparage it anyway.
You do you.
But maybe people who detransition or regret transitioning in the first place feel comfortable talking with her because she doesn't toe the expected party line
There is a line the pro-transitioners would have you believe and that is no one regrets transition and that once you transition all your mental health problems (by which they mean suicide) goes away
Jordan Peterson is nothing more than a snake oil salesman, he is not the best source on anything.
His appeal is stern father figure in an uncertain age…his popularity with young people is a very sad but also very telling indictment on the hollowness within our western society.
It's not Jordan Peterson, it's the pattern of ignoring what information is being presented and diverting the discussion to the merits of someone else, who is not the best source for considered insights on this topic.
I don't like him personally, and I have read one of his books and skimmed through another, and watched a few of his videos. (We had a young man living with us, who was enamoured and I wanted to see what the attraction was).
However, he was right about compelled speech in Canada. Successful law suits in regards to misgendering have proven that right.
At the time, I looked for critiques of his thinking, and read multiple opinion pieces – from law societies and lawyers saying he was over-egging the omelette. Now, I understand the legislative, political and social culture in Canada at the time was not what I thought.
He was right about compelling speech. That does not mean he was/is right about everything. However, he was introduced to this thread by Muttonbird, to what purpose?
Puckish Rogues first link was to Blaire White interviewing a person who I have watched on Youtube and read accounts of called Shapeshifter. These are people, not only with opinions but direct experience of undergoing medical interventions and have something to contribute.
Worth watching, or finding their written accounts if you have the time.
As weka mentioned, a court case is being taken against the NHS for failure to provide appropriate care. Ritchie Herron is one of many who have taken time to write about their private experiences:
There are so many objectionable things he says, where to start is the problem.
Still, he has fallen silent on Twitter for the moment because they banned him and deleted yet another hateful content tweet, this time about Elliot Page. And this is Twitter we are talking about.
It’s been a truism among anthropologists and biologically-oriented psychologists for decades that all human societies face two primary tasks: regulation of female reproduction (so the babies don’t die, you see) and male aggression (so that everyone doesn’t die). The social enforcement of monogamy happens to be an effective means of addressing both issues, as most societies have come to realize (pair-bonded marriages constituting, as they do, a human universal (see the list of human universals here, derived from Donald Brown’s book by that name).
The irony, for me anyway, is that the teachings of Jordan Peterson are far closer than gender affirming surgeons to Nazism.
Forced monogamy, and outlawing transgenderism, etc. These two things alone strongly reflect what Nazis were all about. Extreme social control by and for a selected majority.
June is chosen for Pride to commemorate the Stonewall riots, two nights of violence. Neoliberalism has us forgetting the radical origins of the gay rights movement. Violence doesn’t equate to fascism.
Not at all. Merely pointing out the origins of the gay rights movement; it started with a riot; so the use of the symbolism of baseball bats isn’t necessarily a new thing, or something pride ‘morphed’ into.
I was also responding to Puckish’s contribution above in the edit window.
Alternately, in the real world, not the one inhabited by the Genital Checkers and their selective imagination, they are carrying baseball bats because it's NYC and all the major sports codes are participating..
"On Sunday, Major League Baseball celebrated LGBTQ Pride by sponsoring a float in the New York march"
You're the one talking about genitals mate, and tbh, it's kind of creepy.
Let me make myself clear: if you want to run political arguments that GC people are focused on genitals, you have to make an actual argument. If you want to slur and smear GC people, myself included, by making out that we are obsessed with genitals, then I will moderate you.
See the difference? I don't have time to look at your commenting history on this topic, but next time I see you doing this kind of bullshit I will look at that and take that into account in moderating. Because I suspect this is a pattern of behaviour.
As for the Degenderettes, it's entirely possible they are riffing off NYC baseball culture. But their core kaupapa includes violence against women.
I'm starting to regret reporting all the violent imagery targeting GC women on twitter. There used to be a lot, very common, images of guns knives, bats, saying stfu terfs. In the end British MPs pulled twitter into parliament and asked them what the fuck they were doing allowing this, and after that twitter took the reporting seriously and removed tweets and accounts. So it's not as easy to find the images now.
There is a lot of evidence on https://terfisaslur.com/ But I already linked to that before your comment Cinder. Did you look? Willful ignorance, or you just don't care.
Which of course isn't new. That's standard fare for high profile women in gaming for instance, getting doxxed, having to leave their homes. Only then it was condemned by the left. Now the violence against women is celebrated as art, or Pride, or glossed over as just a sports thing. I don't think I've ever seen a left wing male trans ally condemn this violence in a meaningful way.
Just laying all the cards on the table so we can see what is going on.
Hey Babe (I can be patronising too) – calling me "Mate" makes it the second time you have breached my anonymity here. Cool….
To start with – NYC is the cultural home of baseball. I don't follow baseball but even I know that. Its called Occam's Razor – you know, the thing doctors use to mutilate trans children (Yes I am mocking you)
YOU reposted something which amounted to a group attack stating that the people marching were engaging in targeted harassment without any evidence to support it.
So you made a slur against a group without a shred of evidence – you started it, deal with it.
But seeing as how you want to play your little games, lets go.
This is the logical conclusion of what the GC's want – digital examination of childrens genitals. Thus, Genital Checkers.
I haven't heard you speak up against it AT ALL – Therefore, using your "Logic" you must support it.
On Twitter, Ani "Superbrain" O'Brien said it was [deleted – can't link to that of course because she was getting sick of the constant mockery of her gigantic brain and blocked me and a lot of other people who know bullshit when we see it.
Baseball bats – I looked at the Degenderettes Facebook page. They are not dissimilar to the Black Panthers. This "violence" you talk about is actually self defence classes for the LGBT community and sex workers. You're imagining things again.
New York is a far cry from pitsville South Island or wherever it is that you're plaguing, violence is common, especially against the trans community and sex workers. I support their right to defend themselves, be that verbally or physically.
The look exactly like the sort of punk & anarchist groups I have associated with my entire life – Maybe you have lived a nice little quiet life, good for you, but others don't take shit laying down.
JK Rowling – Got any evidence that the threat was sent by a trans person or a pro-trans individual? A picture on the internet – a Twitter account, thats hardly evidence. Look at stupid up there with her "35,00 detransitioners on Reddit" claim – might as well wear a shirt saying "I don't know how the internet works, but I believe everything I read on it"
The threat against Rowling could have been a Russian or Ukrainian based in the UK after she was duped by a Russian radio station. (Being duped seems to be a common thread with the Gender Critical crowd).
I think this quote from her sums it up best "It might be good for me to do something with that myself on social media because I think that will get into the newspapers"
Meanwhile, other GC "thought leaders" are using the language of eugenics while calling for the elimination of Trans people – Where is your condemnation of that?
The Buffalo mass shooter had a piece on his manifesto identifying trans people as suffering from a mental illness.
Which links nicely with the anti-semitism expressed by some of the GC "thought leaders" in their books and articles – The same shit about "Rich people pulling the strings" and "Big Pharma" which I have seen parroted here by the likes of Sabine and others.
Here on The Standard, calling trans people perverts, paedophiles, mentally ill etc… is a weekly if not daily event. Lots of arseholes playing armchair psychologist or medical expert. It's fucking disgusting and is stochastic terrorism.
So lets see YOU condemn the things that YOU walk amongst and can control – The comments on The Standard.
Then, maybe, you would be worth taking seriously.
As it is, I’ll be surprised if you let this through
“As it is, I’ll be surprised if you let this through”
Only because you seem to stupid or ideologically blind to bother figuring out how things here work. This sentence tells me so much about your ability to miss what is right in front of you.
Speaking of which,
To start with – NYC is the cultural home of baseball. I don’t follow baseball but even I know that. Its called Occam’s Razor – you know, the thing doctors use to mutilate trans children (Yes I am mocking you)
YOU reposted something which amounted to a group attack stating that the people marching were engaging in targeted harassment without any evidence to support it.
So you made a slur against a group without a shred of evidence – you started it, deal with it.
I posted a tweet, without a lot of explanation. You responded by saying no, it’s really about baseball (and queer baseball). To which I said, yes, but it’s also about misogyny and here are the receipts. Which you have completely ignored.
This is the logical conclusion of what the GC’s want – digital examination of childrens genitals. Thus, Genital Checkers.
I haven’t heard you speak up against it AT ALL – Therefore, using your “Logic” you must support it.
Those aren’t gender critical people, they’re gender enforcers. You apparently can’t tell the difference, which is why you lump everyone into the same convenient political box. It’s hardly a credible argument though. The fundamentalist, conservative right want gender roles enforced, which is why they are moving against liberal values and laws around sexual orientation, gender non-conformity, transness and queer culture. Gender critical feminists generally want to abolish gender roles (and often gender itself), and actively promote gender non-conformity. I’ve not seen GCFs talk about the need for genital checks.
the rational argument wasn’t that any person had to speak out against all abhorrent things, it was that a group of people who are seen as, and who self perceive as, progressive, have sanctioned online violence against feminists. ie “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a left wing male trans ally condemn this violence in a meaningful way” This is significant, because it’s not hard to find TA left wing men speaking out against male violence against women. Just not the ones whose politics they oppose. The silence has been deafening and instructional.
I deleted the quote you attribute to Ani O’Brien, because without a link it’s impossible to know if you are telling the truth or manipulating her words and history, or even if it’s a correct quote (I searched twitter and couldn’t find it) what the context is and thus what your point is. Read the Policy if you want to know how claims of fact are treated here. You also need to think about defamation and putting the site at legal risk.
Baseball bats – I looked at the Degenderettes Facebook page. They are not dissimilar to the Black Panthers. This “violence” you talk about is actually self defence classes for the LGBT community and sex workers. You’re imagining things again.
No, I’m not. They put on an art exhibition at a public library that included imagery of violence against women of a kind that is common in trans activism online. That they also do self defense classes, live in a place and are radical anarchists doesn’t meant they can’t also be misogynists. This is really not a hard concept to understand. Both/and.
New York is a far cry from pitsville South Island or wherever it is that you’re plaguing, violence is common, especially against the trans community and sex workers. I support their right to defend themselves, be that verbally or physically.
One of the threads in trans activism and gender identity ideology is that it is GC women who cause violence against trans people. Rather than focusing on the people that do the actual violence (men), the focus is on women whose politics conflict with TAs. This is bog standard sexism (blame women), but it’s also an odd and pernicious dynamic, because of the amount of violence done by men who identify as women (whether trans or otherwise). When women speak about this, they get verbally attacked further. It’s a neat little circle. Many women who spend time looking at the issues come to understand this and won’t put up with the bullshit. Which is why GCF is growing in places like the UK and is being led by women with long histories of work against MVAWG.
So sure, trans people and other non-conforming people do get singled out and targeted for violence, and they have the right to defend themselves. But that doesn’t explain why women are being targeted by the Degenderettes.
JK Rowling – Got any evidence that the threat was sent by a trans person or a pro-trans individual? A picture on the internet – a Twitter account, thats hardly evidence.
There are more than two sides in war, and malicious third party actors are part of the territory. But JKR gets targeted by known trans activists, so the point stands. The TA left has ignored rising violence against women online and this is where we are at now. For instance, it took women MPs in the UK calling twitter into parliament to account for twitter’s tolerance of violence against women for twitter to change its policy and start moderating better. We all know that if men had also been objecting that the issue would have been resolved sooner, because that’s how sexism in society works. In that sense it’s a useful political weapon, TA left wing men’s silence.
Look at stupid up there with her “35,00 detransitioners on Reddit” claim – might as well wear a shirt saying “I don’t know how the internet works, but I believe everything I read on it”
Link or it didn’t happen (and read the site Policy again).
Meanwhile, other GC “thought leaders” are using the language of eugenics while calling for the elimination of Trans people – Where is your condemnation of that?
This whole section of your comment bears unpacking.
The Helens didn’t call for the elimination of trans people (as in eugenics or genocide). What Joyce was talking about was the society needing to limit the number of people that would need life long medical (and I think psychological) support after surgical and hormonal transition. She also points to the problems for people dissociated from their sexed body if society reasserts the important of biological sex and she specifically says that all those people will need support and accommodations. When she says the fewer of those people the better she’s not saying get rid of them, she’s saying let’s prevent that suffering from arising.
TA promotes the idea that surgery and hormones are safe. GC people say that many people are damaged by them. The truth probably lies in between, but until the damage can be looked at there is no way to know. This is a key aspect of what is happening in the UK because of the very large increase in young women presenting with gender dysphoria and being socially tracked towards medical and surgical transition that they later regret. Those young women by definition are considered by society to have a mental illness (which is how they get into a GD clinic).
TA has long tried to marginalise and suppress discussion of this. That’s what the two Helens were trying to do, talk about the damage of surgical/medical transition. I think their language was cavalier and damaging to both their own arguments and to trans people. But they weren’t advocating eugenics or elimination and it’s basically a nonsense to say they were.
The Buffalo mass shooter had a piece on his manifesto identifying trans people as suffering from a mental illness.
Just going to drop this here. I think it’s self evident, but apparently needs spelling out
But if you have a problem with transness being framed as a mental illness, I suggest you take that up with the societal gatekeepers who believe that gender dysphoria is the basis of transness. And that then opens a whole, very interesting conversation about what transness is especially if it’s not predicated on dysphoria.
Which links nicely with the anti-semitism expressed by some of the GC “thought leaders” in their books and articles – The same shit about “Rich people pulling the strings” and “Big Pharma” which I have seen parroted here by the likes of Sabine and others.
Not seeing the link myself, but if you want to argue those points, make an actual argument.
Going to speak up about the growing links between QAnon, the far right and the GC movement?
Again, if you want to make those arguments make them. No, I’m not going to read a link to try and parse what your argument is.
Here on The Standard, calling trans people perverts, paedophiles, mentally ill etc… is a weekly if not daily event. Lots of arseholes playing armchair psychologist or medical expert. It’s fucking disgusting and is stochastic terrorism.
So lets see YOU condemn the things that YOU walk amongst and can control – The comments on The Standard.
I had a quick search of TS for the words pervert and dress and the only comments related to trans people was yours and my reply to you. I did note at the time,
Well, I did stand up for the trans-woman Joanne before she grew sick of being referred to as a “pervert in a dress” and being told to “apologise for what she had done” and asked that a moderator intervene. That good enough for you?
I think you making shit up, or at least distorting what happened. But from what I can tell this is your MO. Instead of pointing to the evidence, you just throw out lazy specious arguments.
And sure, if you don’t care if people respect you or not, I can see why you wouldn’t respect TS.
I don’t actually care if you take me or the site seriously. I do however care that you respect the house rules and kaupapa if you want to keep commenting.
What’s happened here today is that you’ve entered into the debate, and brought in a perspective (the NY baseball thing), but mostly you’ve relied on slurs and assertions of fact without evidence. Your claims from perverts to stochastic terrorism are just words until you can link to specific examples.
What’s also happened is that when I pointed out both the misogyny in trans activism, and the failures of TS left wing men, you’ve doubled down with the slurs and the assertions of fact without evidence and largely ignored the arguments being made that are backed up by evidence. That stands for itself.
Of course, you are using the defence well worn by his followers that by enforced monogamy he didn't mean that kind of enforced monogamy.
Relax, Jordan…never for a second did I think that you were calling for “arbitrary dealing out of damsels to incels,” as Peterson claimed that some critics had concluded. But what the ever-coy Peterson doesn’t say is how exactly Canadian society doesn’t already “enforce monogamy” by that definition, or what he would like to see change to prevent men from becoming homicidally “angry with God.”
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Write about Peterson, as I have done, and one will be quickly and angrily accused of not having watched all his videos. I assure you, I’ve watched so many of those videos my YouTube recommendations are forever sullied. If there is one thing I have learned from Peterson, it’s that Incognito mode is your friend. Question Peterson and you will also be told his IQ, over and over, about which I can only say, if you are a public person and I know your IQ, you are a moron.
You only have to read accounts of gender “affirming” surgery and it side effects to have some questions about it. We have 35,000 de transitioners on Redit. These are people who bitterly regret the irreversible damage transitioning has caused them.
Any evidence that Jordan Peterson is a charlatan? He is a registered psychologist and I have not heard of any mal practice suits against him. Do feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
you see you are doing what Peterson himsel did I e labelling him
Peterson has made a few errors – chiefly of commenting beyond his expertise. But as a critic of some of the profoundly dubious narratives that somehow seem to to have been approved in flaky academic circles, he's pretty healthy.
His book isn't bad – but the videos always leave me humming Ziggy Stardust: when the kids had killed the man I had to break up the band…
One can be an academic, or a celebrity, but not both. Same goes for journalists.
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TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Thursday, July 25 are:News: Why Electric Kiwi is closing to new customers - and why it matters RNZ’s Susan EdmundsScoop: Government drops ...
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Yesterday I happily quoted the Prime Minister without fact-checking him and sure enough, it turns out his numbers were all to hell. It’s not four kg of Royal Commission report, it’s fourteen.My friend and one-time colleague-in-comms Hazel Phillips gently alerted me to my error almost as soon as I’d hit ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Thursday, July 25, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day were:The Abuse in Care Royal Commission of Inquirypublished its final report yesterday.PM Christopher Luxon and The Minister responsible for ...
The Official Information Act has always been a battle between requesters seeking information, and governments seeking to control it. Information is power, so Ministers and government agencies want to manage what is released and when, for their own convenience, and legality and democracy be damned. Their most recent tactic for ...
TL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:Transport and Energy Minister Simeon Brown is accelerating plans to spend at least $10 billion through Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) to extend State Highway One as a four-lane ‘Expressway’ from Warkworth to Whangarei ...
I live my life (woo-ooh-ooh)With no control in my destinyYea-yeah, yea-yeah (woo-ooh-ooh)I can bleed when I want to bleedSo come on, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)You can bleed when you want to bleedYea-yeah, come on (woo-ooh-ooh)Everybody bleed when they want to bleedCome on and bleedGovernments face tough challenges. Selling unpopular decisions to ...
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Given the crackdown on wasteful government spending, it behooves me to point to a high profile example of spending by the Luxon government that looks like a big, fat waste of time and money. I’m talking about the deployment of NZDF personnel to support the US-led coalition in the Red ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:40 am on Wednesday, July 24 are:Deep Dive: Chipping away at the housing crisis, including my comments RNZ/Newsroom’s The DetailNews: Government softens on asset sales, ...
As I reported about the city centre, Auckland’s rail network is also going through a difficult and disruptive period which is rapidly approaching a culmination, this will result in a significant upgrade to the whole network. Hallelujah. Also like the city centre this is an upgrade predicated on the City ...
Today, a 4 kilogram report will be delivered to Parliament. We know this is what the report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care weighs, because our Prime Minister told us so.Some reporter had blindsided him by asking a question about something done by ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Wednesday, July 24, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Beehive:Transport Minister Simeon Brownannounced plans to use PPPs to fund, build and run a four-lane expressway between Auckland ...
NewstalkZB host Mike Hosking, who can usually be relied on to give Prime Minister Christopher Luxon an easy run, did not do so yesterday when he interviewed him about the HealthNZ deficit. Luxon is trying to use a deficit reported last year by HealthNZ as yet another example of the ...
Back in January a StatsNZ employee gave a speech at Rātana on behalf of tangata whenua in which he insulted and criticised the government. The speech clearly violated the principle of a neutral public service, and StatsNZ started an investigation. Part of that was getting an external consultant to examine ...
Renting for life: Shared ownership initiatives are unlikely to slow the slide in home ownership by much. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy today are:A Deloittereport for Westpac has projected Aotearoa’s home-ownership rate will ...
You're broken down and tiredOf living life on a merry go roundAnd you can't find the fighterBut I see it in you so we gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsWe gonna walk it outAnd move mountainsAnd I'll rise upI'll rise like the dayI'll rise upI'll rise unafraidI'll rise upAnd I'll ...
There’s been a change in Myers Park. Down the steps from St. Kevin’s Arcade, past the grassy slopes, the children’s playground, the benches and that goat statue, there has been a transformation. The underpass for Mayoral Drive has gone from a barren, grey, concrete tunnel, to a place that thrums ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections Global society may have finally slammed on the brakes for climate-warming pollution released by human fossil fuel combustion. According to the Carbon Monitor Project, the total global climate pollution released between February and May 2024 declined slightly from the amount released during the same ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Tuesday, July 23 are:Deep Dive: Penlink: where tolling rhetoric meets reality BusinessDesk-$$$’sOliver LewisScoop:Te Pūkenga plans for regional polytechs leak out ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Tuesday, July 23, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:Health: Shane Reti announcedthe Board of Te Whatu Ora-Health New Zealand was being replaced with Commissioner Lester Levy ...
Health NZ warned the Government at the end of March that it was running over Budget. But the reasons it gave were very different to those offered by the Prime Minister yesterday. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon blamed the “botched merger” of the 20 District Health Boards (DHBs) to create Health ...
Long ReadKey Summary: Although National increased the health budget by $1.4 billion in May, they used an old funding model to project health system costs, and never bothered to update their pre-election numbers. They were told during the Health Select Committees earlier in the year their budget amount was deficient, ...
As a momentous, historic weekend in US politics unfolded, analysts and commentators grasped for precedents and comparisons to help explain the significance and power of the choice Joe Biden had made. The 46th president had swept the Democratic party’s primaries but just over 100 days from the election had chosen ...
TL;DR: I’m casting around for new ideas and ways of thinking about Aotearoa’s political economy to find a few solutions to our cascading and self-reinforcing housing, poverty and climate crises.Associate Professor runs an online masters degree in the economics of sustainability at Torrens University in Australia and is organising ...
The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on National's Local Government (Water Services Preliminary Arrangements) Bill. The bill sets up water for privatisation, and was introduced under urgency, then rammed through select committee with no time even for local councils to make a proper submission. Naturally, national's select committee ...
Some years ago, I bought a book at Dunedin’s Regent Booksale for $1.50. As one does. Vandrad the Viking (1898), by J. Storer Clouston, is an obscure book these days – I cannot find a proper online review – but soon it was sitting on my shelf, gathering dust alongside ...
History is not on the side of the centre-left, when Democratic presidents fall behind in the polls and choose not to run for re-election. On both previous occasions in the past 75 years (Harry Truman in 1952, Lyndon Johnson in 1968) the Democrats proceeded to then lose the White House ...
This is a free articleCoverageThis morning, US President Joe Biden announced his withdrawal from the Presidential race. And that is genuinely newsworthy. Thanks for your service, President Biden, and all the best to you and yours.However, the media in New Zealand, particularly the 1News nightly bulletin, has been breathlessly covering ...
A homeless person’s camp beside a blocked-off slipped damage walkway in Freeman’s Bay: we are chasing our tail on our worsening and inter-related housing, poverty and climate crises. Photo: Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
What has happened to it all?Crazy, some'd sayWhere is the life that I recognise?(Gone away)But I won't cry for yesterdayThere's an ordinary worldSomehow I have to findAnd as I try to make my wayTo the ordinary worldYesterday morning began as many others - what to write about today? I began ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am on Monday, July 22 are:Today’s Must Read: Father and son live in a tent, and have done for four years, in a million ...
TL;DR: As of 7:00 am on Monday, July 22, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:US President Joe Biden announced via X this morning he would not stand for a second term.Multinational professional services firm ...
A listing of 32 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, July 14, 2024 thru Sat, July 20, 2024. Story of the week As reflected by preponderance of coverage, our Story of the Week is Project 2025. Until now traveling ...
This weekend, a friend pointed out someone who said they’d like to read my posts, but didn’t want to pay. And my first reaction was sympathy.I’ve already told folks that if they can’t comfortably subscribe, and would like to read, I’d be happy to offer free subscriptions. I don’t want ...
National: The Party of ‘Law and Order’ IntroductionThis weekend, the Government formally kicked off one of their flagship policy programs: a military style boot camp that New Zealand has experimented with over the past 50 years. Cartoon credit: Guy BodyIt’s very popular with the National Party’s Law and Orderimage, ...
Day one of the solo leg of my long journey home begins with my favourite sound: footfalls in an empty street. 5.00 am and it’s already light and already too warm, almost.If I can make the train that leaves Budapest later this hour I could be in Belgrade by nightfall; ...
Do you remember Y2K, the threat that hung over humanity in the closing days of the twentieth century? Horror scenarios of planes falling from the sky, electronic payments failing and ATMs refusing to dispense cash. As for your VCR following instructions and recording your favourite show - forget about it.All ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts being questioned by The Kākā’s Bernard Hickey.TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the week to July 20 were:1. A strategy that fails Zero Carbon Act & Paris targetsThe National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government finally unveiled ...
Summary:As New Zealand loses at least 12 leaders in the public service space of health, climate, and pharmaceuticals, this month alone, directly in response to the Government’s policies and budget choices, what lies ahead may be darker than it appears. Tui examines some of those departures and draws a long ...
The Minister of Housing’s ambition is to reduce markedly the ratio of house prices to household incomes. If his strategy works it would transform the housing market, dramatically changing the prospects of housing as an investment.Leaving aside the Minister’s metaphor of ‘flooding the market’ I do not see how the ...
As previously noted, my historical fantasy piece, set in the fifth-century Mediterranean, was accepted for a Pirate Horror anthology, only for the anthology to later fall through. But in a good bit of news, it turned out that the story could indeed be re-marketed as sword and sorcery. As of ...
An employee of tobacco company Philip Morris International demonstrates a heated tobacco device. Photo: Getty ImagesTL;DR: The top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy on Friday, July 19 are:At a time when the Coalition Government is cutting spending on health, infrastructure, education, housing ...
TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 8:30 am on Friday, July 19 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister Casey Costello orders 50% cut to excise tax on heated tobacco products. The minister has ...
Kia ora, it’s time for another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! Our header image this week shows a foggy day in Auckland town, captured by Patrick Reynolds. ...
TL;DR : Here’s the top six items climate news for Aotearoa this week, as selected by Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent Cathrine Dyer. A discussion recorded yesterday is in the video above and the audio of that sent onto the podcast feed.The Government released its draft Emissions Reduction ...
Save some money, get rich and old, bring it back to Tobacco Road.Bring that dynamite and a crane, blow it up, start all over again.Roll up. Roll up. Or tailor made, if you prefer...Whether you’re selling ciggies, digging for gold, catching dolphins in your nets, or encouraging folks to flutter ...
Waiting In The Wings:For truly, if Trump is America’s un-assassinated Caesar, then J.D. Vance is America’s Octavian, the Republic’s youthful undertaker – and its first Emperor.DONALD TRUMP’S SELECTION of James D. Vance as his running-mate bodes ill for the American republic. A fervent supporter of Viktor Orban, the “illiberal” prime ...
TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Friday, July 19, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day are:The PSAannounced the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) had ruled in the PSA’s favour in its case against the Ministry ...
Te Rangi e tu nei (The sky above us) Te Papa e takoto nei (The land beneath us) Tatou katoa te hunga ora (To us all the living) Tena koutou katoa (Greetings) ...
A late change to charter school legislation will cheat educators out of fair pay and negotiating power proving charter schools are just a vehicle to make profit out of our education system. ...
In 2004 te iwi Māori rallied against the Crown’s attempt to confiscate our coastlines and moana with the Foreshore and Seabed Act. This led to the largest hīkoi of a generation and the birth of Te Pāti Māori. 20 years later, history is repeating itself. Today the government has announced ...
It has been five and a half years since the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care was established to investigate the abuse of children, young people, and vulnerable adults within state and faith-based institutions. Yesterday, the final report - Whanaketia through pain and trauma, from darkness to light ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to take action off the back of the International Court of Justice ruling on Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine. ...
On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
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The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
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A moment of nationhood
https://twitter.com/ThreeLampsFilms/status/1543345263850721280
Ah that probably explains the lack of on street parking by my place on saturday.
50,000+ spectators at Eden Park. How many cars at, say, 7m parking? 5000 cars means 35 kilometres of parking needed!
How far are you from the park? 🙂
According to google maps. About 2.1km walking – 26 minutes.
We're also conveniently placed at the corner of K Rd and Ponsonby for pre and post match social action.
Before large matches, the parking fills up early in the day.
Better now that they have put in parking meters – but now I really notice the matches. But they really should start charging for weekend days as well as weekdays. It often takes days to clear the excess of vehicles.
I’m not a fan of premium sport. Probably partially because I have spent most of my life living within walking distance of Eden Park and the kind of lack of consideration that sports grounds and fans often show to residents. Lights, action, cars (often parked across driveways and verges) and bloody planes buzzing around.
Erdoğan has picked a side.
Turkey has detained a Russian cargo ship carrying alleged Ukrainian grain, Kyiv's ambassador to Turkey said on Sunday, according to Reuters.
Ambassador Vasyl Bondar said in an interview with Ukrainian television that Turkish custom authorities had seized the Zhibek Zholy, a Russian-flagged vessel carrying 7,000 tons of grain from the Russian-occupied port of Berdyansk, Reuters reported.
"We have full cooperation," Bondar said, according to the report. "The ship is currently standing at the entrance to the port; it has been detained by the customs authorities of Turkey."
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-turkey-detain-russia-grain-ship/
It'll be a doddle, they said.
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https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1543491063733690372
The situation for Russia only gets worse. They are using their older munitions, with all of the issues that entails.They have limited resupply – probably almost entirely from local manufacture (I can't see anyone else shipping munitions to them). That all impacts on their ability to get air superiority and accurate bombardment wepons.
Hence the increasing use of dumb attacks on civilians with the ridiculous cover stories that are refuted by external journos on the ground.
They have used up most of their pre-invasion contract units. Dorsn’t sound like there is a rush of people towards getting contracted in. Reads like their only plan was a short victorious war with ni idea how to handle that not working.
The supply of equipment munitions, and supply of components to Ukraine is stepping up. They are getting toward being fully mobllised and trained. They are also in no mood for another shit-arse settlement in place – who in the hell could trust the Russian Federation again?
I wouldn't be so sure. It is almost impossible to get an accurate view of the state of the Ukrainian armed forces. Potentially they could be at the stage of the attritional battle where they are tottering on the brink of collapse, or they may be able to feed fresh troops into the fight. We just don't know.
I don't buy this….while Russia failed badly in its main objective it is now gaining and consolidating large tracts of land in the east….only this morning another key town fell (I forget the name). Once Russia has the whole of Dongbas and the areas around the Black Sea it will sue for peace with these not inconsiderable gains and the West will accede cravenly
Go the arm chair Generals!
@Iprent
You write your comment like it is undisputed fact..how about some links from some credible sources to back up all your assertions….as of course we all should when making controversial claims on important issues, I seem to remember being actively encouraged to do so by moderators myself.
That is my opinion based on a number of sources for a post that I was writing.
I'll be happy to drop in sources in a few days when I get time to finish the post. It got interrupted by a cold over the weekend. I'm behind at real work as well and back on excessive hours.
If you pick out your highest level of disagreement, then I will be happy to dig out links for that. But FFS, you only have to look at the legislation that is going through the Russian parliament at present. Looks like they’re trying to de-unionise their military repairs industry.
In the meantime. – resurrecting T62 tanks? A bill going through the russian parliament ordering overtime for repairs. Using a anti-shippig missile on a shopping mall – either the most inaccurate shot ever (especially given the type of missile), or it was a deliberate targeting of civilians. The most favourable explanation is that they're just firing old dumb unsuitable missiles from long range (and really don't give much of a shit about where they land).
You could also look at this analysis from the economist behind the paywall.
The UK MoD has been doing some good military analysis. So has the ISW.
Obviously the Russians aren't announcing their casualty figures, nor have their minion 'republics' in the Ukrainian territory. But the BBC has been doing some work on specific elite regiments. etc…
You probably need to read more widely, and concentrate on military analysis.
Turkey is on Turkey's side.
Yesterday they blocked DW and several other broadcasters.
Erdogan and Putin have a strong relationship that has developed through Syria and extends to Armenia and beyond.
Turkey’s leverage over Russia – in Syria and beyond (lowyinstitute.org)
Erdogan is similar to Putin in that while Putin holds Tsarist fantasies of restoring the Romanov empire at it's fullest extent he has a yearning to reinvent modern Turkey into a major power, forget the Ataturk era and re-forge something akin to a new Ottoman empire.
They are both neo-Fascist dictators with all the usual romantic irridentist baggage that comes with that.
Basically any Leader that changes the laws or constitutional arrangements to allow new term limits or a ruler for life type scenario is despot in waiting.
Erdogan is between a rock and a hard place with Russia – there is cooperation over Syria and a shared border but at home he has to deal with 650 years of deeply-ingrained hostility and pressure from NATO.
humorous follow up to a recent convo about peer review
https://twitter.com/PainBurel/status/1543060251611746304
Hold on to your hats…the Australians are coming after Hairy Maclary!
Hairy Maclary author Lynley Dodd responds to academic's claim book is outdated, lacks diversity | Newshub
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"Hairy Maclary" ??? … more like Hairy Trans-smeary !!!
Dodd doesn't even attempt to portray pregnant male dogs of colour challenging cis-heteronormative-white-supremacist discursive strategies through a Lyotardian non-binary intersectional lens anchored within a Foucauldian trans-inclusive and anti-fatphobic theoretical understanding of systemic power relations.
One thing's for sure: Queer theorists of colour, mana wahine and the gender-nonconforming aren't even remotely safe while jackbooted neo-nazi thugs like Dodd are wandering the streets.
Very clever Swordfish!![smiley smiley](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/regular_smile.png?x42494)
And I am sure it hasn’t gone unnoticed by other eagle eyed ‘unreconstructed 1970s feminists’ than myself that the books also do not mention separate changing rooms or toilet facilities.
If Lynley Dodd was of a mind to launch into revisions to Hairy’s gadding about in a non threatening biologically excretory focussed way ensuring that dogs were in the ascendant at all times this could be quickly remedied. Actually no poos or wees in the books and this is surely trying to inculcate other wordly thoughts as it is not possible for anyone or dog to go hours and hours without needing a toilet brak
We need to look at Spot too.
Coffee snort!![heart heart](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/heart.png?x42494)
Not sure it's Lynley Dodd they are not safe from!
Brilliant response. Thank you, you've made my day (and a very wet day it is)!
The detrans wave is building, won't be long before the first lawsuits happen. Things are going to get interesting.
Ritchie Herron is suing the NHS. His story is harrowing, and graphic. Hope this will make some people sit up and take notice.
https://archive.ph/nRGUn (link to The Times)
Jordan Peterson recently claimed gender affirming surgery is a criminal act, just one which is not criminal right now. He calls gender affirming surgeons, "butchers", and likens them to those who carried out Nazi medical experiments:
https://twitter.com/thebadstats/status/1542930870012563456
Ironic, eh?
What’s the irony?
The irony, for me anyway, is that the teachings of Jordan Peterson are far closer than gender affirming surgeons to Nazism.
Forced monogamy, and outlawing transgenderism, etc. These two things alone strongly reflect what Nazis were all about. Extreme social control by and for a selected majority.
Jordan Peterson is not the best source when looking for clinical evidence of benefits/harms of current interventions in trans healthcare.
He provides his opinion, not clinical evidence.
There are sources not so easily dismissed on the iatrogenic harms of 'affirmation only healthcare':
https://segm.org/
Copy that.
Is Trump supporting, male to female, Blaire White a good source when looking for clinical evidence of benefits/harms of current interventions in trans healthcare? That is the source Puckish Rogue initiated this thread with.
I have not watched the Blaire White interview because it is 17 minutes long (I can watch stuff on the internet under 2 minutes, that's it), but I will admit she is slightly more credible than Jordan Peterson on this issue, so thank you for that.
When my children use the excuse they were only copying the behaviour of their siblings, my response is – that's not a good enough reason to do so. But you are not a child – and definitely not one of mine, so that's not appropriate.
If you want to find information rather than play footsies, visit SEGM.
If you have something going on with Puckish Rogue, you want to continue, go ahead…
Muttonbird has always been a little bit jealous of me, I'm not entirely sure why though
Thanks Mom, but I know Puckish Rogue is your favourite.
I don't know about Molly but I'm your Daddy
So you don't watch the interview but you'll disparage it anyway.
You do you.
But maybe people who detransition or regret transitioning in the first place feel comfortable talking with her because she doesn't toe the expected party line
There is a line the pro-transitioners would have you believe and that is no one regrets transition and that once you transition all your mental health problems (by which they mean suicide) goes away
This is false
Some more interviews shes done on the subject
Jordan Peterson is nothing more than a snake oil salesman, he is not the best source on anything.
His appeal is stern father figure in an uncertain age…his popularity with young people is a very sad but also very telling indictment on the hollowness within our western society.
It's not Jordan Peterson, it's the pattern of ignoring what information is being presented and diverting the discussion to the merits of someone else, who is not the best source for considered insights on this topic.
I don't like him personally, and I have read one of his books and skimmed through another, and watched a few of his videos. (We had a young man living with us, who was enamoured and I wanted to see what the attraction was).
However, he was right about compelled speech in Canada. Successful law suits in regards to misgendering have proven that right.
At the time, I looked for critiques of his thinking, and read multiple opinion pieces – from law societies and lawyers saying he was over-egging the omelette. Now, I understand the legislative, political and social culture in Canada at the time was not what I thought.
He was right about compelling speech. That does not mean he was/is right about everything. However, he was introduced to this thread by Muttonbird, to what purpose?
Puckish Rogues first link was to Blaire White interviewing a person who I have watched on Youtube and read accounts of called Shapeshifter. These are people, not only with opinions but direct experience of undergoing medical interventions and have something to contribute.
Worth watching, or finding their written accounts if you have the time.
As weka mentioned, a court case is being taken against the NHS for failure to provide appropriate care. Ritchie Herron is one of many who have taken time to write about their private experiences:
https://archive.ph/dA1wn
The most interesting thing about Peterson is that none of his critics ever have a problem with anything he actually says.
Well, now you are just talking like Herr Doktor himself.
you mean he had a point?
I don't like JP, pretty sure I can make an argument against what he says rather than just saying in different ways I don't like him. Why not try that?
You just provided a near perfect example of the phenomenon downthread, so thanks.
There are so many objectionable things he says, where to start is the problem.
Still, he has fallen silent on Twitter for the moment because they banned him and deleted yet another hateful content tweet, this time about Elliot Page. And this is Twitter we are talking about.
So that is something.
So many objectionable things that you can't think of a single one to quote without being made to look a fool.
You are right that anyone quoting Jordan Peterson would look like a fool.
You're still doing it you know.
What the hell I'll take the bait.
'Forced monogamy' link please
'outlawing transgenderism' link please
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/may/23/jordan-peterson-public-intellectual-isnt-clever-violent-men-monogamy
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/06/30/62be1b74e2704e92438b456c.html
Herr Doktor a dangerous nut job and attractive to the likes of yourself.
Not a coincidence.
Are you able to copy and paste here something he said, yes or no?
You asked for links and I provided them.
Reading is my preference but I do know some like to post videos because they find reading difficult.
So thats a no then
https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/media/on-the-new-york-times-and-enforced-monogamy/
I didn't read it all.
The Peterson word salad generator saves you the bother…
http://www.wisdomofpeterson.com/
Muttonturd suggests that De Peterson is advocating for Forced monogamy, and outlawing transgenderism
In your post I see him describing social enforcement but nothing forced and theres nothing about 'outlawing transgenderism'
Is it unreasonable to ask Fartingbird to post some proof or evidence?
[I gave you a Mod note recently about needling Muttonbird: https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-24-06-2022/#comment-1896637.
Come back in the weekend. Next ban will be doubled – Incognito]
Mod note
I'd put them on a par myself (TRAs and JP).
Some of the worst misogyny I've ever seen comes from TRAs. https://terfisaslur.com/
Note the baseball bat imagery. Here too. It's a symbol of targeted harassment against gc feminists. This is overt and sanctioned by the left.
https://twitter.com/GC_Vermontah/status/1542511562799296513
The imagery reminds me of something…can't think what though
On an unrelated subject I was watching Caberat the other day, good songs.
This ones a doozy:
June is chosen for Pride to commemorate the Stonewall riots, two nights of violence. Neoliberalism has us forgetting the radical origins of the gay rights movement. Violence doesn’t equate to fascism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
sorry, did you just justify male violence against women?
Not at all. Merely pointing out the origins of the gay rights movement; it started with a riot; so the use of the symbolism of baseball bats isn’t necessarily a new thing, or something pride ‘morphed’ into.
I was also responding to Puckish’s contribution above in the edit window.
Alternately, in the real world, not the one inhabited by the Genital Checkers and their selective imagination, they are carrying baseball bats because it's NYC and all the major sports codes are participating..
"On Sunday, Major League Baseball celebrated LGBTQ Pride by sponsoring a float in the New York march"
https://www.outsports.com/2018/6/24/17500176/new-york-lgbt-pride-mlb-nba-nfl-nhl-wnba
"The New York City Pride March on June 24 will feature the largest collection of professional sports leagues ever for an LGBTQ Pride March or Parade."
https://www.outsports.com/2018/6/1/17389274/nyc-pride-march-nfl-nba-nhl-mlb-wnba-lgbtq-athletes
Honestly – I'm starting to think that if you lot saw the All Blacks marching in Pride with rugby balls all you would see are testicles.
Perhaps Rugby balls look like eggs?
You're the one talking about genitals mate, and tbh, it's kind of creepy.
Let me make myself clear: if you want to run political arguments that GC people are focused on genitals, you have to make an actual argument. If you want to slur and smear GC people, myself included, by making out that we are obsessed with genitals, then I will moderate you.
See the difference? I don't have time to look at your commenting history on this topic, but next time I see you doing this kind of bullshit I will look at that and take that into account in moderating. Because I suspect this is a pattern of behaviour.
As for the Degenderettes, it's entirely possible they are riffing off NYC baseball culture. But their core kaupapa includes violence against women.
https://twitter.com/sarahstuartxx/status/989033241029021697
also from the exhibition in the SF library,
https://twitter.com/ReasetButton/status/1333901148781211656
Is this the new face of tolerance?
New misogyny same as the old misogyny.
I'm starting to regret reporting all the violent imagery targeting GC women on twitter. There used to be a lot, very common, images of guns knives, bats, saying stfu terfs. In the end British MPs pulled twitter into parliament and asked them what the fuck they were doing allowing this, and after that twitter took the reporting seriously and removed tweets and accounts. So it's not as easy to find the images now.
There is a lot of evidence on https://terfisaslur.com/ But I already linked to that before your comment Cinder. Did you look? Willful ignorance, or you just don't care.
What then happens is things like this,
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1543001990942318594
Which of course isn't new. That's standard fare for high profile women in gaming for instance, getting doxxed, having to leave their homes. Only then it was condemned by the left. Now the violence against women is celebrated as art, or Pride, or glossed over as just a sports thing. I don't think I've ever seen a left wing male trans ally condemn this violence in a meaningful way.
Just laying all the cards on the table so we can see what is going on.
Hey Babe (I can be patronising too) – calling me "Mate" makes it the second time you have breached my anonymity here. Cool….
To start with – NYC is the cultural home of baseball. I don't follow baseball but even I know that. Its called Occam's Razor – you know, the thing doctors use to mutilate trans children (Yes I am mocking you)
YOU reposted something which amounted to a group attack stating that the people marching were engaging in targeted harassment without any evidence to support it.
So you made a slur against a group without a shred of evidence – you started it, deal with it.
But seeing as how you want to play your little games, lets go.
This is the logical conclusion of what the GC's want – digital examination of childrens genitals. Thus, Genital Checkers.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ohio-lawmakers-advance-trans-sports-ban-with-genital-check-2022-06-03/
I haven't heard you speak up against it AT ALL – Therefore, using your "Logic" you must support it.
On Twitter, Ani "Superbrain" O'Brien said it was [deleted – can't link to that of course because she was getting sick of the constant mockery of her gigantic brain and blocked me and a lot of other people who know bullshit when we see it.
Baseball bats – I looked at the Degenderettes Facebook page. They are not dissimilar to the Black Panthers. This "violence" you talk about is actually self defence classes for the LGBT community and sex workers. You're imagining things again.
New York is a far cry from pitsville South Island or wherever it is that you're plaguing, violence is common, especially against the trans community and sex workers. I support their right to defend themselves, be that verbally or physically.
The look exactly like the sort of punk & anarchist groups I have associated with my entire life – Maybe you have lived a nice little quiet life, good for you, but others don't take shit laying down.
JK Rowling – Got any evidence that the threat was sent by a trans person or a pro-trans individual? A picture on the internet – a Twitter account, thats hardly evidence. Look at stupid up there with her "35,00 detransitioners on Reddit" claim – might as well wear a shirt saying "I don't know how the internet works, but I believe everything I read on it"
The threat against Rowling could have been a Russian or Ukrainian based in the UK after she was duped by a Russian radio station. (Being duped seems to be a common thread with the Gender Critical crowd).
I think this quote from her sums it up best "It might be good for me to do something with that myself on social media because I think that will get into the newspapers"
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/j-k-rowling-volodymyr-zelensky-zoom-prank-1235170917/
Meanwhile, other GC "thought leaders" are using the language of eugenics while calling for the elimination of Trans people – Where is your condemnation of that?
https://twitter.com/chimenesuleyman/status/1532841418972078085
The Buffalo mass shooter had a piece on his manifesto identifying trans people as suffering from a mental illness.
Which links nicely with the anti-semitism expressed by some of the GC "thought leaders" in their books and articles – The same shit about "Rich people pulling the strings" and "Big Pharma" which I have seen parroted here by the likes of Sabine and others.
https://www.voxpol.eu/transphobia-in-the-buffalo-shooters-manifesto/
Going to speak up about that? No? – Then employing your "Logic" once again, you must condone it.
Going to speak up about the growing links between QAnon, the far right and the GC movement?
https://www.voxpol.eu/transphobia-in-the-buffalo-shooters-manifesto/
Here on The Standard, calling trans people perverts, paedophiles, mentally ill etc… is a weekly if not daily event. Lots of arseholes playing armchair psychologist or medical expert. It's fucking disgusting and is stochastic terrorism.
So lets see YOU condemn the things that YOU walk amongst and can control – The comments on The Standard.
Then, maybe, you would be worth taking seriously.
As it is, I’ll be surprised if you let this through
“As it is, I’ll be surprised if you let this through”
Only because you seem to stupid or ideologically blind to bother figuring out how things here work. This sentence tells me so much about your ability to miss what is right in front of you.
Speaking of which,
I posted a tweet, without a lot of explanation. You responded by saying no, it’s really about baseball (and queer baseball). To which I said, yes, but it’s also about misogyny and here are the receipts. Which you have completely ignored.
I deleted the quote you attribute to Ani O’Brien, because without a link it’s impossible to know if you are telling the truth or manipulating her words and history, or even if it’s a correct quote (I searched twitter and couldn’t find it) what the context is and thus what your point is. Read the Policy if you want to know how claims of fact are treated here. You also need to think about defamation and putting the site at legal risk.
No, I’m not. They put on an art exhibition at a public library that included imagery of violence against women of a kind that is common in trans activism online. That they also do self defense classes, live in a place and are radical anarchists doesn’t meant they can’t also be misogynists. This is really not a hard concept to understand. Both/and.
One of the threads in trans activism and gender identity ideology is that it is GC women who cause violence against trans people. Rather than focusing on the people that do the actual violence (men), the focus is on women whose politics conflict with TAs. This is bog standard sexism (blame women), but it’s also an odd and pernicious dynamic, because of the amount of violence done by men who identify as women (whether trans or otherwise). When women speak about this, they get verbally attacked further. It’s a neat little circle. Many women who spend time looking at the issues come to understand this and won’t put up with the bullshit. Which is why GCF is growing in places like the UK and is being led by women with long histories of work against MVAWG.
So sure, trans people and other non-conforming people do get singled out and targeted for violence, and they have the right to defend themselves. But that doesn’t explain why women are being targeted by the Degenderettes.
There are more than two sides in war, and malicious third party actors are part of the territory. But JKR gets targeted by known trans activists, so the point stands. The TA left has ignored rising violence against women online and this is where we are at now. For instance, it took women MPs in the UK calling twitter into parliament to account for twitter’s tolerance of violence against women for twitter to change its policy and start moderating better. We all know that if men had also been objecting that the issue would have been resolved sooner, because that’s how sexism in society works. In that sense it’s a useful political weapon, TA left wing men’s silence.
Link or it didn’t happen (and read the site Policy again).
This whole section of your comment bears unpacking.
The Helens didn’t call for the elimination of trans people (as in eugenics or genocide). What Joyce was talking about was the society needing to limit the number of people that would need life long medical (and I think psychological) support after surgical and hormonal transition. She also points to the problems for people dissociated from their sexed body if society reasserts the important of biological sex and she specifically says that all those people will need support and accommodations. When she says the fewer of those people the better she’s not saying get rid of them, she’s saying let’s prevent that suffering from arising.
TA promotes the idea that surgery and hormones are safe. GC people say that many people are damaged by them. The truth probably lies in between, but until the damage can be looked at there is no way to know. This is a key aspect of what is happening in the UK because of the very large increase in young women presenting with gender dysphoria and being socially tracked towards medical and surgical transition that they later regret. Those young women by definition are considered by society to have a mental illness (which is how they get into a GD clinic).
TA has long tried to marginalise and suppress discussion of this. That’s what the two Helens were trying to do, talk about the damage of surgical/medical transition. I think their language was cavalier and damaging to both their own arguments and to trans people. But they weren’t advocating eugenics or elimination and it’s basically a nonsense to say they were.
Just going to drop this here. I think it’s self evident, but apparently needs spelling out
https://kathleenstock.substack.com/p/on-guilt-by-association
But if you have a problem with transness being framed as a mental illness, I suggest you take that up with the societal gatekeepers who believe that gender dysphoria is the basis of transness. And that then opens a whole, very interesting conversation about what transness is especially if it’s not predicated on dysphoria.
Not seeing the link myself, but if you want to argue those points, make an actual argument.
Again, if you want to make those arguments make them. No, I’m not going to read a link to try and parse what your argument is.
I had a quick search of TS for the words pervert and dress and the only comments related to trans people was yours and my reply to you. I did note at the time,
https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-31-12-2021/#comment-1848353
I don’t actually care if you take me or the site seriously. I do however care that you respect the house rules and kaupapa if you want to keep commenting.
What’s happened here today is that you’ve entered into the debate, and brought in a perspective (the NY baseball thing), but mostly you’ve relied on slurs and assertions of fact without evidence. Your claims from perverts to stochastic terrorism are just words until you can link to specific examples.
What’s also happened is that when I pointed out both the misogyny in trans activism, and the failures of TS left wing men, you’ve doubled down with the slurs and the assertions of fact without evidence and largely ignored the arguments being made that are backed up by evidence. That stands for itself.
Thanks Cinder, precisely!
The baseball bats are deliberately both violent and phallic in their symbolism. Charming.
Forced monogamy,
Hah – you fell for that furphy.![kiss kiss](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/kiss.png?x42494)
It's not a rumour if he said it. I don’t care what his subsequent back down was.![yes yes](https://cdn2.thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/ark-wysiwyg-comment-editor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png?x42494)
Nah. You fell for it and don't have the guts to admit it.
You have been captured by a mentally-ill, hateful charlatan. However, it is consistent with your penchant for other whacky and dangerous ideas.
Evasion.
You fell for an obvious and very stupid lie that you wanted to believe. Own up.
What was the "obvious and very stupid lie"? Did Die Peterson not espouse enforced monogamy as a solution to a young man driving into a crowd?
Keep digging.
I have given a clear reference, you have nothing but malevolent stupidity.
Of course, you are using the defence well worn by his followers that by enforced monogamy he didn't mean that kind of enforced monogamy.
– Tabitha Southey
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-context-of-jordan-petersons-thoughts-on-enforced-monogamy/
Lol. I don't care about you backing down now.🤣
You only have to read accounts of gender “affirming” surgery and it side effects to have some questions about it. We have 35,000 de transitioners on Redit. These are people who bitterly regret the irreversible damage transitioning has caused them.
Any evidence that Jordan Peterson is a charlatan? He is a registered psychologist and I have not heard of any mal practice suits against him. Do feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
you see you are doing what Peterson himsel did I e labelling him
Peterson has made a few errors – chiefly of commenting beyond his expertise. But as a critic of some of the profoundly dubious narratives that somehow seem to to have been approved in flaky academic circles, he's pretty healthy.
His book isn't bad – but the videos always leave me humming Ziggy Stardust: when the kids had killed the man I had to break up the band…
One can be an academic, or a celebrity, but not both. Same goes for journalists.
Sobering.. I've seen lots of people kick them quite hard.