on Teresa now resuming deportation flights to Jamaica – consistent with how she first made her UK political reputation in deporting Carribbeans who had arrived on a ship called ‘Windrush’.
Brexit’s gonna be a process of unintended consequences due to problems with internal ruling class structures (which is what it was an expression of in part) i’m guessing.
New Zealand First MP and Cabinet Minister Tracey Martin says she personally witnessed a National Party MP instructing online “trolls” to attack a political opponent.
Interesting they went straight to Paula Bennett for comment. 😆
Standby….. nat trolls will now be actively trying to discredit the Tracey Martin via social media, because that’s how they roll when people speak the truth.
Tracey Martin discredits herself…..wasn’t it her that forgot linkedin didnt exist several years ago, and also appointing someone “independent” to the Wally Haumana investigation that had endorsed the person.
I think Tracey Martin is NZ First’s Clare Curran.
If this story was from a Labour MP it would be more credible (except maybe Kelvin Davis).
I wouldn’t be surprised if Labour runs similar groups of people.
The short answer is that there aren’t. I’ve been looking for them for more than a decade. Every time I think I see a left group, it turns out that they have just had a split and several aren’t talking to each other. Think of The Daily Blog for an example of the usual behaviour.
I’ve come to conclusion that while there are a lot of lefties with some weird opinions, they are also extremely and usually excessively individualistic. Trying to get them to work closely together is an interesting exercise, and what you see here is about as good as it gets. However the better ones are pretty good at cooperating together so long as everyone else is aware that they’re just sort of heading in a similar direction.
Strikingly, and outright strangely for this dedicated iconoclastic loner, I think that I’m actually one of the more cooperative ones and one who actively works with a lot of people for work through to this.. And I’m used to regarded as a weird loner in every other part of my long life.
On the other hand, there are obvious groups of rightie trolls. They do tend to operate like a flock of carnivorous sheep. Their belief systems are weird as they all seem to believe the same crap as a group and keep repeating the same stupid ideas as a statement of fact regardless of contradictory evidence. Few seem to be able to think for themselves and they seem to require a pile of self-reinforcement from their flock
But on the net they are fierce warriors – right up until they are effectively challenged with facts. Then they huddle together and bleep how everyone is against them and that they need protection and every one should be polite to them. Think of Cameron Slater and his bunch of ‘warriors’ over the years. Or that bunch of no-hopers in the sewer section at
Kiwiblog.
In my ‘generalised’ opinion, many righties seem to lack a personal backbone and cling to what they know like it is a comforter and troll as a pack. While most lefties tend to be extreme individualists whose biggest problem is that they all think differently and each thinks that their own particular opinions are the very best.
Fair comments. I was simply trying to provide some wider context to the quoted comments, although I did find it interesting that Tracey Martin would put that thought out there.
She tries to be ‘balanced’. It is the political nature of a centre party and their politicians.
But basically she doesn’t know. Not exactly the most network or computer literate person or even politician based on her online presence.
I think that this site is the nearest thing (outside of the politicians) to a coordinated left group on the local net, and we’re a very loose co-operative with each author expressing their very distinct opinions. And there have been over 80 authors over the ~10.5 years.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Labour runs similar groups of people.
Tracey Martin is totally wrong there. I suspect she was trying to appear non biased either way.
Labour encourages supporters to write letters to the newspapers and no doubt to talk about Labour’s policies online and respond to misinformation being presented as fact. What self respecting political party doesn’t including NZ First.
But no way does Labour set up groups of trained trolls (and we know the Nats do it from Hager’s “Dirty Politics”) to maliciously sabotage the efforts of opposition MPs? The odd individual may have been guilty in the past but it is not in Labour’s DNA to behave in such a lowbrow way.
We’ve seen the ploy here on many occasions although not so much in recent times. I recall last year submitting a reasonably innocuous comment about something or another and a small army of trolls descended on me and tore me to pieces. The word had apparently gone out. Plenty of others have had the same experience over the years.
Would you care to elaborate or link to something? Tracey Martin is a straight talker and I like her a lot because of it. But she’s wrong to assume that Labour indulges in the kind of “dirty politics” we’ve witnessed from National over the years.
Aussie Banks are damned in new reports coming from a Australian Royal investigation just released;
Question; Are NZ bank workers along with their bosses now in line to receive criminal charges? TSB has shown us solid support over many years so should be except here are the reasons.
I applied for a Kiwi bank account as a retired 68yr old homeowner in 2010 and we were refused, as my husband is disabled, and did honestly declare this on our application to Kiwi bank.
We complained as clients who were ‘completely clear of any bad credit history at all’ and the Kiwi bank Manager was acting unreasonable on the phone to us, and afterwards sent us a scathing letter effectively saying our profile as a client was not welcomed????
We never missed a mortgage payment with our previews accounts with two other banks.
We had an account at ANZ and TSB, so we were so shocked as my husband is disabled we only are concerned that disabled people are singled our for being denied for being clients with banks, and this is a breach of our human rights.
We are still with TSB. They are so far the best bank we have ever found.
NZ Banks need to be investigated as insurance companies are being now, and while we are at that issue of insurance companies wrong doings in NZ me and my husband had a life insurance policy with a insurance company in NZ since 1884 and when we become 68 our insurer cut our life insurance policy off after they doubled the premium and then cut off our account, so we lost our life insurance through extortion policies it seems as they were threatening to substantial raise our premium cost monthly at where no one on a pension could have afforded the cost.
Yes insurance and banks are apparently corrupt privateers.
Now the local councils around the country are telling us all they need to sell our assets such as Port airports and other “essential services” so all of us are in for yet more rorting of our money as privatising our assets will only bring the same greed policy we have witnessed in banking and insurance companies just to keep profits for “shareholders happy folks!!!
So we are doomed in this ‘corporate greed culture’ we have apparently embraced.
That’s very disappointing to hear. We were with ASB and ANZ and switched all our banking to Kiwi Bank several years ago when we bought a house. We have found them very good.
Kevin
Don’t diss Kiwibank – it is NZ owned not Australian. Definitely different from the big 4. And it has always had to fight to live against the asset strippers who have run NZ who were quite happy to have Australia make money from creating money to lend to us and take the profit which means they make the profit not us.
Get with it please.
They operate exactly the same way despite the advertising. If your circumstances change and you fall outside the box, they are just the same bunch or arseholes as BNZ, ANZ etc.
Kiwibank has to compete with the others, and can’t be too different. But they have kept going despite National and ACT (Actively Conning the Trusting), dissing them. I hope you are not a right-leaning person, it is a struggle to keep NZ alive and kicking despite the knockers. They earn money for NZ despite their corporate tendencies.
Also to note is TSB – completely NZ operation, and SBS (was Southland Building Society) which is NZ enterprise but uses Westpac as ‘clearing bank’, I think it is called.
I was a Foundation Customer, something I was very proud of, and joined on day one. I have my mortgage with them and have always supported them.
Around three years ago I had a drop in income for six months (had to go on a four day week) and they went from being ‘best friends’ to absolute cunts in the blink of an eye.
When my mortgage comes up for renewal this year, I am out of there. Will go to Co-op or SBS.
I am not with Kiwibank Kevin. An initial test was that they charged $30? for a bounced cheque. At my previous bank I had paid in a cheque for about $30 for a payment to me, had it bounced and charged the same amount. So I was $60 out of pocket instead of $30 which being hard up made me sore. So when I saw what I thought of as ‘the people’s bank’ charged the same impost I took this as a sign that the reality was less than the expected.
I thought from the beginning that Kiwibank was ‘pretty conservative’ in their approach. But they are NZ and had to set up and stand up to opposition and sneering and doubts about their ability with small capital to be effective from such as ‘Yellow(turn)coat Hide’ and so they deserve some authentic accolades.
I am with SBS and have found them more than pretty good and TSB interested in helping small business.
Kiwibank succeeded immediately in stopping all the Aussie banks charging really high set fees just for the privilege of having an account with them. Anderton deserved to feel proud about that.
It is nothing less than what the government is having to contend with with sectors on NZ pulling every which way for things to be returned to “normal” and coping with the extra demands regardless of the rhetoric the National Party left in its wake.
Some of those striking all of a sudden for pay deals that were denied them have been appeased but their is long list of people with demands.
Those demands, they should finally recognise, will never be met for most of NZ if a National Party government is ever let near the seats of power for quite some time.
National played divide and rule and they do it every day still with support from a lot of media while all the time swallowing a dead rat and telling the country that Simon Bridges is a “leader” in any sense of the term. Frankly if that is their best they deserve to moulder for a long, long time that that is what it has come to.
We had a hiccup some years back, went into Cooperative Bank NZ Branch here in Rotorua. After a stroke and early retirement we discussed our changed circumstances. They made several suggestions, and went the extra mile to help us implement a new budget that included rearranged payments on two things. We were given a 3 month break, the changed payment plan, and we got on top again as my health improved. This Bank is rated BBB which some would shun, but I have been with them since 1973. Norm was with Westpac. Their suggestion, ” You could sell up.” Needless to say he joined me at my bank!!. In Banks I am parochial.
Patricia B
Anecdotes like yours are very telling; proof of the pudding etc. As you say the grading BBB is interesting- based on what? Most of us will remember that right up to the GFC back a decade, the ratings agencies amongst them Standards & Poor’s (great name eh) were issuing gradings indicating the banks were AOkay to trade, and suddenly they weren’t. So what are gradings looking at?
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I don’t work in insurance, but I understand it and can comprehend policy wording. It’s not that difficult.
Were you opening a chequing account or seeking a loan? It makes a big difference if you are slagging a kiwi owned bank off and your accusation needs context
But don’t you know he never missed a mortgage payment?
Which is the not the same as having security to allow a new one.
Pretty stupid rant really. Kiwi bank is consistently rated pretty high in customer satisfaction surveys, behind tsb but a long way ahead of ANZ. They also help keep NZ rural infrastructure in the form of post shops alive.
But if it ain’t rail, ol single issue nutter clean green ain’t interested
As the nation counts down to New Zealand’s national day, calls are mounting for the Treaty of Waitangi to be a compulsory part of the school curriculum.
The Post Primary Teachers’ Association is calling for the Treaty to be a compulsory part of the curriculum.
Currently it’s optional, with schools deciding whether or not to teach it.
She wasn’t the only person at the highest level of Government to struggle with the question, Greens co-leader James Shaw admitting: “I actually don’t know the articles”.
really? You are the co leader of a political party in power and you don’t know the articles contained within our founding document? ffs
Ardern was the OTHER “person at the highest level of Government” who couldn’t answer the question. Why single out Shaw when the PM and couldn’t answer the question either?
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today stumbled when asked by 1 NEWS what Article One of the Treaty says.
“Oh, Article One? On the spot?” Ms Ardern replied.
“Kawanatanga, sorry, excuse me,” she added when helped by ministers standing nearby.
I was also disappointed that Shaw could not answer that question i just didn’t think it was fair to not mention Ardern. Both should have been able to say.
I think though that not being able to immediately recall which article is which does not mean that they don’t understand the concepts involved.
As to my opinion on Treaty and Land Wars education being compulsory i have stated that many times here – I think it should be considered essential.
marty mars
I think you are a bit light on looking at understanding the Treaty. It is a bit difficult because of the application of the principle of it being a living document. So we start off with the three principles, then what meanings have been attributed to them. And what additional effects does each point have in certain circumstances and times and what interpretations have been made in current times.
So it could be a lively session as youngsters asked questions and discussed their views of the rights and wrongs. And even though they ended up not agreeing, they would understand more than the limited set of pre-judgments that they have embedded in their minds. Many adults have no understanding of the general principles of our law, and how being a law-based country is both restraining and freeing. There is little time in secondary and even primary I guess, spent on thinking about paradoxes and how we deal with them in culture and society, and how context makes its way into our thinking.
“I think you are a bit light on looking at understanding the Treaty.”
Probably. I was just touching very lightly on a specific area rather than going into it too deep. I have done some university papers around the treaty – I recommend it as well as chatting to tangata whenua at your local marae.
And Yes – think about going to the local marae TOMORROW 6 February Waitangi Day – it is the 6th of February all over the country not just at Waitangi!
Don’t let the overseas visitors have all the fun rapping and eating at the marae. Meet and eat with the local tangata whenua. Get there early and take part in the welcoming powhiri and hear what your Maori neighbours have to say about their special place. There will probably be some music, some singing, some kapa haka that has been practised and performed for everyone’s enjoyment and praise.
Take some money to buy food and you might see some interesting pendant or creative artwork. Embrace our nation’s biculturality, and there might be some multi-culture going on there too.
Yes, the word “stumble” was used by the MSM except she didn’t stumble at all.
When faced with the question (which was designed to faze her) she openly said she had to think about it (or words to that effect) and them someone prompted her and immediately she recalled… and came up with the answer. A split second hesitation while she thought about it is NOT a stumble. A deliberately calculated wrong impression given in my opinion.
For Goodness sake. Are you serious”” How many times did PM Key say, I am not wearing that hat, I don’t have that available, etc.
PM Ardern pauses and is prompted and it is a crime??
You appear desperate…. Like MSM, trying to discombobulate!!
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I do wish more people would get that after its signing, Māori are part of both parties to the Treaty agreement including those represented by the Crown. Hence two bites at the cherry in some instances. And overwhelmingly generous in settlements as Morgan notes.
So do you agree with him that Maori ceded sovereignty? He doesn’t make sense on that as he says that the Tribunal is right to say that Ngapuhi did not cede sovereignty but then tries to argue that because they have accepted court rulings they have given up sovereignty so they did cede it in article one. Part of the build up to the Northern War was Ngapuhi chiefs not accepting the ruling of the courts. Just because they later accepted rulings because they had no choice does not mean they ceded it in the Treaty but rather that it was taken by force.
I really respect Morgan for trying to get educated in this area but his perspective is still simplistic. He starts by saying that the Treaty was signed by “two societies”. This is nonsense. The Treaty was singed by the British Crown and Iwi. What Morgan says is akin to saying that the EU is a treaty signed by Britain and Europe. At the time of the Treaty the word”Maori” just meant “ordinary person”. It was not a political or social structure.
He then goes on to argue that “Maori” own the water because they own everything that they have not sold to the Crown. But Hapu are mana whenua. Hapu own the resources. But if hapu owned the water what water did they own? Did they own the clouds above? Was it theirs when it fell on their whenua? When it flowed in their awa? Did it become the next hapu’s water when the awa crossed a territorial boundary? Could one hapu have built a dam and deprived the next of the water?
If it is the water falling on or passing through a whenua dictates ownership then shouldn’t this ownership right transfer when the land is sold? If that is the case then the Crown also owns water.
More importantly did Maori consider, and do they now consider, water as something that could or should be ‘owned’? Under English common law nobody owns water. This seems to me as a very sound principle. Morgan comes from the perspective of a capitalist economist. He seeks to determine the ownership of assets rather than enter into a complex philosophical discussion on disparate perspectives. Maori have specific interests in and rights to water while Pakeha have general rights. A reductionist capitalist asset allocation will not cut the mustard.
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That gringo should show more care with the lingo: “tay-ray-owe”
Wow sounds like you have some great questions for tangata whenua tomorrow at the waitangi day ceremony, event and marae that you may be going to – let us know what they say.
I’ll be taking the kid to Waitangi for the day tomorrow but i’m going to try really hard to keep away from politics and spend the time with her absorbing the vibe.
I agree it should be part of the core curriculum, and I’m a bit surprised that it’s not.
But I think knowing the vibe of it is more important, even for representatives, than remembering the order or precise contents of the Articles for spot quizzes.
I suspect because it is not uppermost in the majority of citizens minds they don’t think about it much. Pity it isn’t engraved, like the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution in the gun nut minds, into our consciousness.
Depending on the situation of whether they’re asked, and sometimes the value is in remembering that it’s there rather than the exact particulars.
It’s the sort of thing where if I sat down somewhere quiet and thought for a few minutes, I’d probably do better than if I had to answer it on my feet out of the blue.
I think we can do better. Compulsory treaty learning seems the way to go.
Funny – how many remember the 3 ships Columbus used to get over the ditch before he ravaged the new lands. A lot I’d say yet hardly relevant to us here.
Interesting conversation with a Dairy owner yesterday. He has a dozen double glass door fridges, pie warmers, freezers, none of them his. Companies pay for the fridges, pay for and are prompt with maintenance, and: …. dictate what is allowed in their appliances.
It’s monopoly by stealth. You stock the fridge, you don’t stock the competitors products.
That’s why so many dairies have the same rubbish wall to wall. That’s why local pie makers and drink makers are pushing shit uphill before they get started.
Coke is the largest culprit, V is not far behind whoever owns them. Big Ben pies, fuck your horrible nasty products I can’t buy a decent pie because of your crap, and Irvines is similarly rubbish in a pastry wrap.
No wonder we’re in so much trouble. We spend our waking hours devising ways to fuck everyone else over so we can sell rubbish in place of food.
Yep that’s big business for you. Putting yourself in the dairy owners shoes, of course you would take the offer of free freezers etc. as it saves him thousands on buying and maintaining them himself.
But as you say, the flip side is the consumer has less choice of brands to choose from.
And I agree with you ….its hard to get a decent pie these days…..try finding a bakery some of them are good.
I’m guessing this is a resultant of the owner not having the capital to purchase there own fridge, and the reality of the income generated for them by the fridge as part of there business.
I’ve seen it in industry like 3D printing where the industrial scale versions have systems that control the materials used. They become hostage to the inflated price at say $600 kg when generic material is available at about $50 kg. Eventually competition provides machines allowing generic material and the extorting companies are abandoned.
Same as the fridge. The owner gets the capital to by there own fridge and can stock products without the extortionary use of the fridge providers products. It could be the business owner is happy with the arrangement and puts available capital spend elsewhere.
If you don’t like what they are selling don’t buy it. Want a nice pie go to a Bakery.
A similar situation exists with pubs where the taps etc are supplied by a brewery and the competitors’ products are banned.
Here’s an excerpt from a February 2017 Herald article.
“….. despite increasing consumption, there’s a mystifying lack of outlets showcasing the diversity of New Zealand’s brewing ecosystem.
“Most pubs and bars in New Zealand have ‘tied taps’, meaning that they are under contract to sell a limited range of beers owned by the brewery.”
Very evident on a road triStap in the southern South Island. Mind you, that’s when I go to pubs for meals and accommodation. At home there are two popular untied pubs, with excellent food as well as beer. One highlights Japanese food, the other German style.
There seems to be a link between quality of product sold and the commercial nature of the publican’s business arrangements. The untied seem to enjoy a different focus more on quality as well as variety.
The benefits to a small business are great. But it is still big money using big money to control small business, via either exclusion or contracted collusion.
I’m sure it’s all legal. That’s how they do if possible…
Yeah true about pubs aye. Two pubs per town. A Lion pub and a DB pub. And from region to region you couldn’t tell what you were walking into by brand of pub. In the Waikato the Bikers drank at Lion pubs, in Taranaki, DB… You never knew what was in the parcel from the packet. As a wee teen it paid to be careful. You could drink underage the length and breadth of the country but it was still an adults world.
A kid thumbing the road might seek solace from the sun. Might accidentally strut his mohawk hairdo into a Lion Pub on the outskirts of the Waikato, to find a Mongrel Mob bar full of patch members, he might order a shot instead of the beer he wanted, he might then down it and walk back out all cool like, but in a timely manner!
…the idea that remote rural communities are [slow?] allow on the uptake is demonstrably untrue in Orkney.
“Actually it is the opposite, when things are small-scale it means you know who to pick up the phone to make things happen, you’re fleet of foot.”
Orkney is now energy rich to the extent that it created a problem for its electricity grid.
“Having 120 percent energy generating is a serious problem, because it loads electricity on to the grid and when you start loading too much electricity on to cables they tend to blow fuses or melt – literally.”
Showing a knack for problem solving, the Islanders decided to generate hydrogen with the surplus power it was making, which it could then store or sell.
“Hydrogen fuel is one way that you can store electricity off the grid and bring it back on when you need it.
The islanders decided to take the surplus energy to run an electrolyser which splits sea water into hydrogen and oxygen.
The electrolyser sits on one of the Orkney islands called Edie, which has 180 residents.
“What’s going on in Orkney is neither a dystopian future where they’ve given up, nor is it a utopian future where they’ve said somebody else or technology will save the day.
“It’s not some renewable energy nirvana that’s going on, it’s a challenging place, part of what’s happening is because there are high levels of fuel poverty and there are still too many people in Orkney on fuel poverty all the initiatives are very much driven by how do we make the energy cheaper.”
Can we say the results and outcomes in NZ show that we have ‘a knack for problem solving’?
environment
3 Feb 2019
Laura Watts: Orkney’s sustainability revolution
From Sunday Morning, 8:38 am on 3 February 2019
Orkney used to be a study in how to use energy unsustainably. The archipelago off the northern tip of Scotland bought and imported all its power from coal and gas plants on the Scottish mainland.
These days it generates more electricity than it needs via a host of wind turbines and through capturing tidal energy
Author Laura Watts has studied the sustainable energy revolution taking place on the far-flung islands, she tells Jim Mora that innovation often occurs at the edge of things.
Maybe the interview on Radionz this morning would be pertinent to this matter – about nz coastal rips.
9:20 Predicting rips
University of Canterbury Coastal Geomorphologist Dr Seb Pitman is developing a way of mapping rip tides on Muriwai beach. He explains to Kathryn Ryan how GPS “drifters” could predict rips and make sea swimming safer.
My wife comes from ‘Herne Bay’ along the river Thames in UK.
At the coastal area of the English Thames river mouth where it meets the English channel we saw they install ‘Beakwaters’ after the horrific storm ruined her town of Hearne Bay in the 1950’s..
They have enormous ‘rip tides’ from the ‘north sea’ and calmed their areas of those coastal regions and river mouth waterways.
We saw these coastal regions being calmed by placing ‘ breakwaters’ along many tidal prone areas.
European nations including France, Spain, Germany, Britain, Portugal, Sweden, Denmark, Austria and the Netherlands are supporting the leader of the opposition.
With everything going on and the population just wanting someone, anyone to save them from impending starvation as a result of economic collapse;, how much do people really know about Juan Guaido?
Interestingly enough Guaido made his claim as interim President the day after a call with Mike Pence.
Where there is oil, you can almost guarantee the USA is involved.
The Listening Post….. article is the first one up, approx 11 mins long.
Guaido “is a Venezuelan engineer and politician serving as the President of the National Assembly of Venezuela since 5 January 2019. A member of the centrist social-democratic Popular Will party, he also serves as a federal deputy to the National Assembly, representing the state of Vargas. On 23 January 2019, Guaidó took a public oath to serve as interim President of Venezuela. The inauguration of Nicolás Maduro as President of Venezuela earlier that month was contested and the National Assembly considered the position vacant; under the Constitution of Venezuela, if the office of President of the Republic becomes vacant, the President of the National Assembly may serve as interim president until elections can be held.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Guaid%C3%B3
If people keep avoiding the fact that his assumption of the office was authorised by the Venezuelan Constitution, someone has to keep reminding them of reality. Could get tedious, eh? Those who would rather believe the neocon plot theory, or the lone-wolf competing with the dictator theory, ought perhaps to reassess the merit of such hallucinations.
“Part of a large family, and of modest origins, Guaidó was raised in a middle-class home by his parents, Wilmer and Norka. His father was an airline pilot and his mother, a teacher. One grandfather was a sergeant of the Venezuelan National Guard while another grandfather was a captain in the Venezuelan Navy.
Guaidó lived through the 1999 Vargas tragedy which left his family temporarily homeless; he lost friends and his school. The tragedy, according to his colleagues, influenced his political views after the then-new government of Hugo Chávez allegedly provided ineffective response to the disaster. He said, “I saw that if I wanted a better future for my country I had to roll up my sleeves and give my life to public service.”
Those seeking to demonise a young man who wants to provide his country with a positive alternative have an onus on them to present evidence that he is actually a demon. None have yet. Occam’s razor implies we ought to take him at face value unless we get good reason not to.
We are lost in a sea of misinformation and withdrawal from truth and our achievements and also our fallacies and flaws under this privatisation approach that says no compulsion, no regulation and leaves our lives and commitment to our country to people who flap in the wind of commercial interests.
Thank god for Maori drive to know their history, and show capabilities, for instance in building a waka and sailing it to Raratonga. A visual symbol of greatness. How can we make the country great again, when we don’t know our past greatness in the first place?
Long time ago – it must seem so to many – the ones born after 1984 and after the advent of the computerisation generation ‘CGs”.
Makes me think of Don McLean – ‘long time ago’ and ‘the day the music died’ from Bye Bye American Pie.
He added: “(It was) this idea of being a rock ‘n’ roll dream, or a fantasy, of some sort. But it’s a dream where things morph into other things.”
“The day the music died” initially refers to the plane crash, McLean said, but takes on “so many things” as the song progresses through six verses.
“The music is the poetry of life, it’s the spirit of something,” McLean said. “It’s the essence of art. It’s so many things. So, as the song develops after each verse, that music has died, you see? So I realize at a metaphor it was perfect for what I was thinking.”
+ 1 yep – until we know the past our foundation will continue to be weak and the society we have built on it a fragile, tottering lie. Proof? Suicide stats and all the rest of the indicators even down to our filthy water in our rivers and beaches.
Stealing children from their parents and placing them with the right families looks like child trafficking and smells like child trafficking.
The tRump regime is a child trafficking cartel
The Trump administration says it would require extraordinary effort to reunite what may be thousands of migrant children who have been separated from their parents and, even if it could, the children would likely be emotionally harmed.
Jonathan White, who leads the Health and Human Services Department’s efforts to reunite migrant children with their parents, said removing children from “sponsor” homes to rejoin their parents “would present grave child welfare concerns.” He said the government should focus on reuniting children currently in its custody, not those who have already been released to sponsors.
but they are good christian families ……………and these are little catholic heathen children that should be lucky to be so lucky.
what they are saying is we don’t know where the children are, and we can’t possibly get them back, and we don’t know where the parents are…and besides its business, really good business for the ones that run the internment camps for babies, toddlers to teenagers, for the adoption businesses (the christian ones DeVos comes up again and again), and besides the US will need an underclass in twenty years as much as they need their underclass now. After all how can all the white people feel superior if they are no others left to be superior too?
Everything that i was afraid would happen before the election came true. And so many so many many many could not give a flying fuck, cause he is not beholden to money, he will drain the swamp, he will not start world war three, he is not corrupt, he is this and he is that, and he is all i ever wanted him to be, despite the fact that the man in his whole life has shown nothing but contempt for everyone and everything, has bankrupted everything he laid his hands on, has lusted after his daughter publicly, and to boot has surrounded himself with the worst that the US has to offer in supporters and enablers.
Every single Trump supporter, water carrier, should be ashamed. Simply that. Nothing more nothing left. Just shame, and pity for children who will never be really whole again.
I read both the standard and kiwiblog because I find them both on the same pegging. The Standard is generally quite centre left and Kiwiblog quite centre right. I avoid whale oil and the daily blog because Slater and Bomber share the same traits – just on different sides of the fence.
My politics are much aligned with the standard but occasionally kiwiblog does something worth considering and this post I thought was very good:
It played to the assumption that politicians ought to know what they’re talking about. Why should they? Representatives elected to represent most people are selected because most see them as an accurate match. So the aggregate effect, as per statistics, locates them atop the bell curve, centred on the exact median intelligence of the populace. How many kiwis could tell you the correct answer? Way less than 1%! Unreasonable to expect politicians to be less ignorant than the average voter…
I wasn’t thrilled by the realisation when it first occurred to me years ago. But it stands to reason, eh? Identity politics, people identify most with the one they tick at the ballot box. Lowest-common-denominator design of democracy ensures that mediocrity is produced as output.
That’s why I started advocating meritocracy as a positive alternative. We can use codesign to evolve it as an alternative political system. Not to replace democracy, but to complement it.
Another death resulting from easy-peasy attitudes. A Korean man with family and little English holidaying here. Sandboarding down slope. Part of a group on one bus. A second bus pulls into the area where he will slide to a stop. He goes under the bus while his family watches. Why can’t tourist companies work together and help keep their precious trusting customers safe? Cosset them FGS.
Just run through some what-ifs and be ahead of the problems that will crop up.
Health and Safety are OTT often but you can see their necessity when there are so many cowboys running companies, or with employees that haven’t had the job and methods properly explained to them. How do companies feel about their employees suffering at having been involved in this sort of thing. The sadness and the nightmares, and the shakes? Everyone suffers. We need to do better.
Ah. Well the first thing to consider is that both buses are in the tourism business and so it is wise to not go running down each other’s clients. Not good for business.
Then the next is that there is always an over riding rule about driving in that the speed and manner should be suitable for the conditions. Though I imagine that a driver would not expect a pedestrian to come shooting down a dune beside which he is driving, at a great rate of knots, so his shock and surprise can be understood. So we come back to due care and attention in driving into an area with super-speed people on toboggans shooting around the place.
And then consider a need for caution in looking after people from a different country, not speaking English, and who expect a modicum of expertise and care in a supposedly sane, civilised country. They put their trust in us and find it wanting because we are wanting in the head, just a little, but she’ll be right!
After just reading a bit of Bertie Wooster I may have imbibed a bit of PG Wodehouses style I’m afraid. But still I think I have covered your points ianmac.
If anyone thinks the State owning businesses is a desirable goal Venezuela should give you pause for thought.
“Even so, De Freitas said the initial findings paint a picture of an oversized state hemorrhaging money — at a time when the country desperately needs it. The organization found that 70 percent of the 511 companies have produced losses in 2016 totaling 1.29 trillion bolivares — or about $129 billion dollars. That amount is 14 percent higher than what the government earmarked for education, health, housing, and social security that same year.”
Ok mate, then what about SOE’s in the Western style Gulf States and in Singapore along with Singapore’s State run Super?
We also have the Nordic Nations SOE’s (Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Finland) and their State run Super schemes?
Would you care to explain why they are going gangbusters? Which are in your warp mind of the free market Neo- Con/ Lib BS shouldn’t be State Own or State Run. I don’t why you keep craping on about some tin pot country in Latin America? Because I really don’t give a shit about as there are important issues in the SP Region and NZ that need addressing than a bunch of muppets with their fingers in that country’s coffers.
So what you are saying that all those countries mentioned should disinvest from their SOE’s that are making a return/ profit for their taxpayers and the State disinvest from them as they distorted the so- call free market in your little warped mind of your Neo- Lib/Con BS. Even though they protect the economic wealth of those mentioned countries over the longer term, unlike little old NZ which flogged off almost all of its SOE’s and as a result has gone backwards compared to those countries over the longer term.
From you logic it seems in your warped little mind the State should only divest from assets when they make a loss. While I don’t care when the State divests themselves of such assets your option will mean far less return than if they were sold if they were profitable.
No Sir, having read your posts over the years. Is that you lot believe that all Governments should disinvest from all Government SOE’s and leave it to the market to sort out?
Unlike those countries that I mentioned, they have use those profits to be invest back into to those SOE’s or into a Sovereign Wealth Fund for a rainy day or in a couple cases they have use the interest payments to reduce government tax income in which they still maintain a higher standard of living across the with well funded Government Departments such as Health, Education etc.
In the case the of NZ, you lot flogged everything off, lower taxes to the upper echelons of society, screw the workers employment rights and WHS aka Pike River Coal Mine along with wrecking every Government Department though lack of funding and making them run as business. As you lot have said the market is always right and private industry is better than Government.
Well these countries that I have mentioned compared to your tin pot country from South America that you keep crapping on about, must be doing something wrong then?
Btw I have none time in Singers and in a couple of the Western Style Gulf States and met a few the ministers along the way. They can’t get their head around the stupidity of the Neo Con/Lib economic theory that you lot brought in from the mid 80’s to the present. Us Expat Kiwi’s BS unlike you sir or your dumb ass backers/ oil snake salesman of the Neo Con/ Lib economic theory.
The Vikings, Arabs, and the jokers from Singers aren’t the stupid ones here, lovely boy! But you Mr Magoo and your Neo Con/ Lib Mates who are after a quick buck for the race to the bottom of the nearest pissaphone or thunderbox are the stupid ones here.
Or this one which I forgot to mention, when a private contractorscomes round saying they have fixed the problem and when they really haven’t. ISBACSICRT’O I Should Be A Contractor So I Can Rip Taxpayers Off.
Yeah – but then we have all the local evidence of privatisations, which shows unequivocally that the private sector generally only contributes corruption. Service standards fall, promises made to secure the assets (Max Bradford’s “prices will fall”) prove to be lies, cost of living rises and the state is deprived of income for social spending. That evidence, the applicable evidence, shows incontrovertibly that privatization is essentially fraud in drag as business, and no NZ citizen should support it for a moment – in fact we ought to press our politicians to reverse the rorts that have fallen short of the promises made to justify looting the public estate.
Go and tell it to the Venezuelans, I’m sure they know more about what works and doesn’t in their own country than any far-right foreigner.
The British people Raided, Stole, Enslaved, Slaughtered numerous peoples under Queen Elizabeth 1, 1553 – 1603.
The British raided 90 different Nations from Elizabeth’s time up unitl very recently.. If you look at the school map of “British Empire” you will see the extent of its Rape.
When it Raided and Stole New Zealand, it took Maori Children, Women and Men to War. By Gun. That was in 1840. It handed the the reluctant Maori people a defective Treaty.
The Bastard Thieving Brits have never apologised. They never do.
Supporting the Maori is expensive. The Bill is largely paid by the low wage workers Pakeha and Maori.
To ease the situation for Maori and the low paid workers (pakeha and Maori) I believe that a levy should be paid by the excessively wealthy New Zealanders and their Share Holders. Their Tax Rorts included.
The burden thrown on NZ by the British Crown needs attention. It needs it now.
There was war between Maori tribes before Europeans arrived in NZ. Was there ever apology between tribes after these battles ? Just wonder as maybe it was only passed down with oral history ?
Josie Butler banned, but Brash and Tamaki are okay?!?!?!?!?
What the F*&K is going on in this country? Checkpoint, RNZ National, Tuesday 5 February 2019. 5:38 p.m.
Josie Butler should have been given a medal for throwing a dildo at that dickhead Steven Joyce in 2016. Instead, she’s been banned from the Treaty grounds, while a vicious racist (Don Brash) and a rabble-rousing thug (Brian Tamaki) are allowed free access.
This is a disgraceful affair, instigated by some disgusting chump at Police HQ, and featuring the usual dispiriting cast of sad lickspittles and minor officials. Most contemptible of the lot of them is one Peter Paraone, who apparently was a New Zealand First List M.P. for some years. If he was, no one noticed him.
This afternoon, Paraone finally did something to force himself on the public’s attention. He nodded his head and said “Yes boss.”
LISA OWEN: So you banned her because the Police requested you to ban her?
PETER PARAONE: Uh, yes.
LISA OWEN: Why?
….Long silence….
PETER PARAONE: Uh, I’m not familiar with the detail….
I think people who throw things should be banned. Appalling behaviour to treat anyone that way. If we want people to turn up to Waitangi then they at least need to feel safe.
OK – I’m calling it – based on @CheckpointRNZ’s report the decision to trespass Josie Butler from Waitangi’s Treaty Grounds (initiated by the NZ Police) was flat out unlawful … done purely because what she had done, not any reasonable concern about current behaviour.
I could agree with you that there are major inequalities between various parts of New Zealand currently. Also major variations in incomes.
Wealthy New Zealanders however, are not at all interested in paying realistic wages to their staff.
You may have heard that no low wage Worker can afford to Buy a home in New Zealand. Not can they afford Rental accommodation without skinflint assistance.
I’m not in poverty & agree housing costs have turned totally unrealistic, not just for low wages earners. I think the statement about wealthy NZers not interested in paying realistic wages may not be accurate – not sure where you get this from ? Most NZ businesses are small & while I agree that employees should be paid more, I know quite a few small businesses whose owners work long hours & their hourly rate isn’t flash either.
Your pertinent words:
“I know quite a few small businesses whose owners work long hours & their hourly rate isn’t flash either”.
The rise and rise of big Business is the destruction of small Business.
The huge resources of big Business have been allowed to all but obliterate the former opportunities of individuals and families in our Country. Thanks to our appalling politicians.
The money Big Business makes in NZ, is shipped out to its owners in Australia, Korea, China, Saudi Arabia. And god knows where else. Further adding to the poverty of individuals and families in NZ.
The only solution I can see is to Levy the very wealthy sector of Business and the Wealthy (and their Share Holders) so that Financial Equity returns to New Zealanders.
So that the Banks operating here should return at least 1 Billions of $dollars Per Annam. And so on to all the Businesses of great wealth.
All that our Parliament has done since the rise of National is denude the wealth of Aotearoa. This must be turned around. And Quickly.
You’re totally correct re big business – the worst thing is companies like Apple, Google etc make money here, but seem to pay very little tax. There was an outcry about this several months ago, but I haven’t heard anything more since then, hopefully government will update the tax rules to stop this happening.
It’s great to read details surrounding Te Tiriti O Waitangi being discussed and debated in Open Mike today. Hopefully a healthy discussion will continue tomorrow, 6 February.
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On Friday the International Court of Justice reaffirmed what Palestinian’s have been telling us for decades: that the occupation and colonisation of Palestinian lands by Israel is illegal and must end immediately. They also called for reparations for Palestinian’s who have lived under Israeli occupation since it began in 1967. ...
Labour calls on the Government to act after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territories is illegal. ...
The 53.7 percent rise in benefit sanctions over the last year is more proof of this Government’s disdain for our communities most in need of support. ...
Aotearoa could be a country where every child grows up feeling safe, loved and with a sense of belonging in their whānau and community. But for some of our children, this is far from reality. Instead, they are trapped in a maze of intergenerational harm that they can’t escape on ...
Te Pāti Māori are calling for David Seymour to resign as Associate Health Minister in response to his call for Pharmac to ignore the Treaty of Waitangi. “This announcement is just another example of the government’s anti-Tiriti, anti-Māori agenda.” Said Co-leader and spokesperson for health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. “Seymour thinks it ...
The soaring price of renting is driving the rise of inflation in this country - with latest figures from Stats NZ showing rents are up 4.8 per cent on average while annual inflation is at 3.3 per cent. ...
National’s Emissions Reduction Plan will take New Zealand further from the economy we need to ensure the next generation has a stable climate and secure livelihoods. ...
Following consultation with named parties and thorough consideration of privacy interests, the Green Party is in a position to release the Executive Summary of the final report from the independent investigation into Darleen Tana. ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon should be asking serious questions of his Minister for Resources Shane Jones now it’s been revealed he misled the public about a dinner with mining companies that he didn’t declare and said wasn’t pre-arranged. ...
Te Pāti Māori have submitted to the Justice Select Committee against the Sentencing (Reinstating Three Strikes) Amendment Bill. The bill will further entrench racism in our justice system and fails to focus on rehabilitation. “Reinstating Three Strikes will empower a systematically racist system and exacerbate the overrepresentation of Māori in ...
The Transport and Infrastructure Committee is set to make a determination on the Residential Tenancies Amendment (RTA) Bill in the coming weeks. “This legislation will give landlords the power to kick our whānau out onto the street for no reason” said Housing spokesperson, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “Their solution to the housing ...
“National’s campaign was about tackling crime and the best they can do is a two-year long Ministerial Advisory Group,” Labour justice spokesperson Duncan Webb said. ...
“There are more examples of charter schools failing their students than there are success stories. The coalition Government is driving to dismantle our public school system and instead promote a privatised, competitive structure that puts profits before kids,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
“This government is choosing to deliberately mislead and withhold information, keeping our people in the dark about this government’s agenda and the future of our mokopuna,” said co-leader and spokesperson for Health, Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. The call comes after the demand from the Chief Ombudsman that Associate Minister of Health, Casey ...
“Today’s climate announcement by Simon Watts makes clear the National Government is simply paying lip service to meeting its climate change targets,” Megan Woods said. ...
National is choosing to make life harder for workers by taking away the rights our communities have fought hard for. Here's how they’re taking workers backwards. ...
Australia, Canada and New Zealand today issued the following statement on the need for an urgent ceasefire in Gaza and the risk of expanded conflict between Hizballah and Israel. The situation in Gaza is catastrophic. The human suffering is unacceptable. It cannot continue. We remain unequivocal in our condemnation of ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today reminded all State and faith-based institutions of their legal obligation to preserve records relevant to the safety and wellbeing of those in its care. “The Abuse in Care Inquiry’s report has found cases where records of the most vulnerable people in State and faith‑based institutions were ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government’s online safety website for children and young people has reached one million page views. “It is great to see so many young people and their families accessing the site Keep It Real Online to learn how to stay safe online, and manage ...
Tēnā tātou katoa, Ngā mihi te rangi, ngā mihi te whenua, ngā mihi ki a koutou, kia ora mai koutou. Thank you for the opportunity to be here and the invitation to speak at this 50th anniversary conference. I acknowledge all those who have gone before us and paved the ...
New Zealand’s payroll providers have successfully prepared to ensure 3.5 million individuals will, from Wednesday next week, be able to keep more of what they earn each pay, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Revenue Minister Simon Watts. “The Government's tax policy changes are legally effective from Wednesday. Delivering this tax ...
An experimental vineyard which will help futureproof the wine sector has been opened in Blenheim by Associate Regional Development Minister Mark Patterson. The covered vineyard, based at the New Zealand Wine Centre – Te Pokapū Wāina o Aotearoa, enables controlled environmental conditions. “The research that will be produced at the Experimental ...
The Coalition Government has confirmed the indicative regional breakdown of North Island Weather Event (NIWE) funding for state highway recovery projects funded through Budget 2024, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Regions in the North Island suffered extensive and devastating damage from Cyclone Gabrielle and the 2023 Auckland Anniversary Floods, and ...
Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Retno Marsudi, will visit New Zealand next week, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “Indonesia is important to New Zealand’s security and economic interests and is our closest South East Asian neighbour,” says Mr Peters, who is currently in Laos to engage with South East Asian partners. ...
He aha te kai a te rangatira? He kōrero, he kōrero, he kōrero. The government has reaffirmed its commitment to supporting the aspirations of Ngāti Maniapoto, Minister for Māori Development Tama Potaka says. “My thanks to Te Nehenehenui Trust – Ngāti Maniapoto for bringing their important kōrero to a ministerial ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has thanked outgoing Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority, Janice Fredric, for her service to the board.“I have received Ms Fredric’s resignation from the role of Chair of the Civil Aviation Authority,” Mr Brown says.“On behalf of the Government, I want to thank Ms Fredric for ...
The Government is proposing legislation to overturn a Court of Appeal decision and amend the Marine and Coastal Area Act in order to restore Parliament’s test for Customary Marine Title, Treaty Negotiations Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Section 58 required an applicant group to prove they have exclusively used and occupied ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour says that opposition parties have united in bad faith, opposing what they claim are ‘dangerous changes’ to the Early Childhood Education sector, despite no changes even being proposed yet. “Issues with affordability and availability of early childhood education, and the complexity of its regulation, has led ...
After receiving more than 740 submissions in the first 20 days, Regulation Minister David Seymour is asking the Ministry for Regulation to extend engagement on the early childhood education regulation review by an extra two weeks. “The level of interest has been very high, and from the conversations I’ve been ...
The Coalition Government is investing $802.9 million into the Wairarapa and Manawatū rail lines as part of a funding agreement with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA), KiwiRail, and the Greater Wellington and Horizons Regional Councils to deliver more reliable services for commuters in the lower North Island, Transport Minister Simeon ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced his intention to appoint a Crown Manager to both Hawke’s Bay Regional and Wairoa District Councils to speed up the delivery of flood protection work in Wairoa."Recent severe weather events in Wairoa this year, combined with damage from Cyclone Gabrielle in 2023 have ...
Mr Speaker, this is a day that many New Zealanders who were abused in State care never thought would come. It’s the day that this Parliament accepts, with deep sorrow and regret, the Report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care. At the heart of this report are the ...
For the first time, the Government is formally acknowledging some children and young people at Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital experienced torture. The final report of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State and Faith-based Care “Whanaketia – through pain and trauma, from darkness to light,” was tabled in Parliament ...
The Government has acknowledged the nearly 2,400 courageous survivors who shared their experiences during the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse in State and Faith-Based Care. The final report from the largest and most complex public inquiry ever held in New Zealand, the Royal Commission Inquiry “Whanaketia – through ...
With a week to go before hard-working New Zealanders see personal income tax relief for the first time in fourteen years, 513,000 people have used the Budget tax calculator to see how much they will benefit, says Finance Minister Nicola Willis. “Tax relief is long overdue. From next Wednesday, personal income ...
Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Brooke van Velden says a bill that has passed its first reading will improve parental leave settings and give non-biological parents more flexibility as primary carer for their child. The Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No3), passed its first reading this morning. “It includes a change ...
Two Bills designed to improve regulation and make it easier to do business have passed their first reading in Parliament, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. The Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill and Regulatory Systems (Immigration and Workforce) Amendment Bill make key changes to legislation administered by the Ministry ...
New legislation paves the way for greater competition in sectors such as banking and electricity, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says. “Competitive markets boost productivity, create employment opportunities and lift living standards. To support competition, we need good quality regulation but, unfortunately, a recent OECD report ranked New ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says lotteries for charitable purposes, such as those run by the Heart Foundation, Coastguard NZ, and local hospices, will soon be allowed to operate online permanently. “Under current laws, these fundraising lotteries are only allowed to operate online until October 2024, after which ...
The Coalition Government is accelerating work on the new four-lane expressway between Auckland and Whangārei as part of its Roads of National Significance programme, with an accelerated delivery model to deliver this project faster and more efficiently, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “For too long, the lack of resilient transport connections ...
Sir Don McKinnon will travel to Viet Nam this week as a Special Envoy of the Government, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced. “It is important that the Government give due recognition to the significant contributions that General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong made to New Zealand-Viet Nam relations,” Mr ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says newly appointed Commissioner, Grant Illingworth KC, will help deliver the report for the first phase of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons, due on 28 November 2024. “I am pleased to announce that Mr Illingworth will commence his appointment as ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters travels to Laos this week to participate in a series of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-led Ministerial meetings in Vientiane. “ASEAN plays an important role in supporting a peaceful, stable and prosperous Indo-Pacific,” Mr Peters says. “This will be our third visit to ...
Construction of a new mental health facility at Te Nikau Grey Hospital in Greymouth is today one step closer, Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey says. “This $27 million facility shows this Government is delivering on its promise to boost mental health care and improve front line services,” Mr Doocey says. ...
New Zealand is committing nearly $50 million to a package supporting sustainable Pacific fisheries development over the next four years, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones announced today. “This support consisting of a range of initiatives demonstrates New Zealand’s commitment to assisting our Pacific partners ...
Associate Education Minister David Seymour says proposed changes to the Education and Training Amendment Bill will ensure charter schools have more flexibility to negotiate employment agreements and are equipped with the right teaching resources. “Cabinet has agreed to progress an amendment which means unions will not be able to initiate ...
In response to serious concerns around oversight, overspend and a significant deterioration in financial outlook, the Board of Health New Zealand will be replaced with a Commissioner, Health Minister Dr Shane Reti announced today. “The previous government’s botched health reforms have created significant financial challenges at Health NZ that, without ...
Minister for Space and Science, Innovation and Technology Judith Collins will travel to Adelaide tomorrow for space and science engagements, including speaking at the Australian Space Forum. While there she will also have meetings and visits with a focus on space, biotechnology and innovation. “New Zealand has a thriving space ...
Climate Change Minister Simon Watts will travel to China on Saturday to attend the Ministerial on Climate Action meeting held in Wuhan. “Attending the Ministerial on Climate Action is an opportunity to advocate for New Zealand climate priorities and engage with our key partners on climate action,” Mr Watts says. ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is travelling to the Solomon Islands tomorrow for meetings with his counterparts from around the Pacific supporting collective management of the region’s fisheries. The 23rd Pacific Islands Forum Fisheries Committee and the 5th Regional Fisheries Ministers’ Meeting in Honiara from 23 to 26 July ...
The Government today launched the Military Style Academy Pilot at Te Au rere a te Tonga Youth Justice residence in Palmerston North, an important part of the Government’s plan to crackdown on youth crime and getting youth offenders back on track, Minister for Children, Karen Chhour said today. “On the ...
The Government has welcomed news the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has begun work to replace nine priority bridges across the country to ensure our state highway network remains resilient, reliable, and efficient for road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“Increasing productivity and economic growth is a key priority for the ...
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour has been in contact throughout the evening with senior officials who have coordinated a whole of government response to the global IT outage and can provide an update. The Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet has designated the National Emergency Management Agency as the ...
New Zealand and Japan will continue to step up their shared engagement with the Pacific, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. “New Zealand and Japan have a strong, shared interest in a free, open and stable Pacific Islands region,” Mr Peters says. “We are pleased to be finding more ways ...
New developments in the heart of North Island forestry country will reinvigorate their communities and boost economic development, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones visited Kaingaroa and Kawerau in Bay of Plenty today to open a landmark community centre in the former and a new connecting road in ...
President Adeang, fellow Ministers, honourable Diet Member Horii, Ambassadors, distinguished guests. Minasama, konnichiwa, and good afternoon, everyone. Distinguished guests, it’s a pleasure to be here with you today to talk about New Zealand’s foreign policy reset, the reasons for it, the values that underpin it, and how it ...
Opinion: The Canadian short story writer Alice Munro – winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2013 – died in May at the age of 92. Her work was about “the damage people inflict on one another in the name of love”, Deborah Treisman wrote in the New Yorker. ...
This month marks two years since the most powerful telescope ever built sent its first pictures back to earth. From its lofty vantage point, beyond the moon in orbit around the sun, the James Webb Space Telescope was tuned to observe the first stars and galaxies being born soon after ...
Comment: After Climate Change Minister Simon Watts’ preview several weeks ago, I had some optimism about the Government’s emissions reduction plan. Now I’ve read the discussion document, that hope has been dashed. How can the Government propose a plan that wants to take New Zealand taxpayers’ hard-earned money, and spend ...
Christopher Luxon: hurdles The little man from National jumps hurdles in his sleep. He’s quite good at it in his dreams and even though the reality doesn’t quite match up you have to give him credit for getting up every morning and crashing into the very first hurdle of the ...
Comment: It was a good two hours into the conversation when Tyrone Marks raised the most basic of questions when I first spoke to him in 2017. “They didn’t explain the things they did to me. They never told me why. And they still haven’t. There’s no explanation for it. ...
Last summer when Matairangi burned, Ginny and Tom stood at the window of their lounge, watching kākā shoot skyward from the burning trees. From the distance, they looked to Ginny like pages torn from books and thrown into a bonfire. It was Tom, voice tight, who told her it was ...
Madeleine Chapman rounds out Death Week on The Spinoff with a final recommendation. You can read all of our Death Week coverage here. Nothing forces you to reflect on your life and relationships quite like proximity to death. For those whose nearest and dearest have died, there are reasonably obvious ...
Whitney Greene takes us through her life in television, including the TV character she’d like to plan a funeral for and her cow lung catastrophe on The Traitors NZ. “If the phone rings, I have to answer it,” Whitney Greene from The Traitors NZ warns as we begin our My ...
Maddie Ballard reviews the debut essay collection of Pōneke writer Flora Feltham.In ‘The Raw Material’, the longest essay in Flora Feltham’s dazzling debut collection, the author heads out for a run after hours of weaving and sees the world turn to textile. “Pounding along the Parade, I saw the ...
Andy Christiansen, one half of the experimental rock-pop duo TRiPS, shares the tunes inspiring the band’s perfect weekend and new release. “Good speakers, good food, good music, no distractions”: that’s all you need to enjoy the psychedelic stylings of TRiPS, a new band formed by Fly My Pretties’ Barnaby Weir ...
Celebrating our quadrennial opportunity to become experts in a bunch of sports we never normally watch.The games of the XXXIII Olympiad are upon us. Paris will host this year’s showcase of sporting and athletic prowess, which means some late-night and early-morning viewing for us in Aotearoa.But what sports ...
The photograph is striking and beautiful, but also disturbing – a reminder that my love for John was often entangled in shame.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.In the spring of 1980, in Dunedin, shortly before his death, someone took a photograph ...
Get to know Babushka, our latest Dog of the Month. This feature was offered as a reward during our What’s Eating Aotearoa PledgeMe campaign. Thank you to Babu’s humans, Jo and Isabel, for their support. Dog name: Babushka (Babu for short) Age: 2Breed: Border Collie X poodleIf rescued, ...
Pacific Media Watch A Lebanese photojournalist who was severely wounded during an Israeli air strike in south Lebanon carried the Olympic torch in Paris this week in honour of her peers who have been wounded and killed in the field — especially in Gaza and Lebanon. Christina Assi of Agence ...
The first report in a five-part web series focused on the 15th Triennial Conference of Pacific Women taking place in the Marshall Islands this week.SPECIAL REPORT:By Netani Rika in Majuro Women continue to fight for justice 70 years after the first nuclear tests by the United States caused ...
Christopher Luxon has joined with Australia and Canada's leaders in voicing support for US President Joe Biden's ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The 2022 election brought the “teal wave” into parliament. The next election will test whether teals, who occupy what were Liberal seats, and other independents can maintain their momentum. Joining us on the Podcast ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Musgrave, Senior lecturer in Pharmacology, University of Adelaide Pixavri/Shutterstock A major Federal Court class action has been dismissed this week after Justice Michael Lee ruled there was not enough evidence to prove the weedkiller Roundup causes cancer. Plaintiff Kelvin ...
In The Week in Politics: politicians have to decide what to do about child abuse, Health NZ is booked in for major surgery and Darleen Tana returns. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Clare Corbould, Associate Professor, Contemporary Histories Research Group, Deakin University Mainstream media are surprisingly muted at the prospect of the world’s most powerful nation being led for the first time by a woman – specifically a woman of colour, Vice President Kamala ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Bennett, PhD Student, Associate Research Fellow, Deakin University Last week, a drone delivery company called Wing (owned by Google’s parent company, Alphabet) started operating in Melbourne. Some 250,000 residents in parts of the city’s eastern suburbs can now order food from ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jonathan Foo, Lecturer, Physiotherapy, Monash University pikselstock/Shutterstock In the next 40 years in Australia, it’s predicted the number of Australians aged 65 and over will more than double, while the number of people aged 85 and over will more than triple. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Katrina Grant, Research Associate, Power Institute for Arts and Visual Culture, University of Sydney Jonas Åkerström’s 1790 work, Session of the Accademia dell’Arcadia on August 17 1788.Nationalmuseum/Cecilia Heisser Ever wondered whether you’d have a better chance at winning an Olympic gold ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Alexandra Jones, Program Lead, Food Governance, George Institute for Global Health wavebreakmedia/Shutterstock On Thursday, Australian and New Zealand food ministers at state, federal and national levels met to thrash out what’s next for health star ratings on packaged foods. Now, after ...
The Abuse in Care report found many Pacific survivors lost their connections to their culture and language, resulting in trauma that has been carried from generation to generation. ...
In the regulatory review, ECC intends to suggest that ERO focus on curriculum delivery reviews rather than the Ministry, because it’s not efficient or effective to have two agencies with radically different approaches climbing over each other. ...
Te Rūnanga Nui o Ngā Kura Kaupapa Māori invites the current government to work in partnership with them to develop a pathway forward, including the development of a parallel pathway and meaningful policy and strategy for Kura Kaupapa Māori ...
If you haven’t started watching yet, Tara Ward begs you to reconsider. This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. In the world of New Zealand reality television, we have many gems in our crown. There’s the delicious second season of the Celebrity Treasure ...
A new poem by Fiona Kidman. The clothes of the dead I did not keep my mother’s furry red beret for long nor the stringy scarves that adorned the necks of my aunts, although I have kept tag ends of gold, the rings and trinkets they wore, the brooches no ...
The government’s announcement that it will re-open the foreshore and seabed controversy by changing the rules on recognising centuries-old Māori customary title for a third time goes against the rule of law and New Zealand values,” Mr Tipa says. ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Lioness by Emily Perkins (Bloomsbury, $25) Roarrrr! Perkins’ brilliant, award-winning, Marian-Keyes anointed, darkly funny, long ...
The 2004 Act vested ownership of the foreshore and seabed in the Crown, extinguishing any Māori claims to ownership and causing widespread outrage and protests among Māori communities. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Antje Deckert, Associate Professor (Criminology), Auckland University of Technology Getty Images Despite the connection between institutional harm and gang membership made clear in this week’s mammoth royal commission abuse-in care report, the government seems unlikely to soften its “get tough on ...
From Lewis Clareburt in the swimming to the start of the rowing – the first seven days of Paris 2024 promise to be big for New Zealand. There are few events that bring the country together quite like an Olympic Games. Nothing quite matches the excitement of getting up in ...
Groundbreaking local science just showed up in the most surprising of places: the season finale of The Kardashians. In the season five finale of The Kardashians last night, several members of the family gathered together in one of their signature empty, cream-coloured rooms to hear test results that had been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Saikal, Emeritus professor of Middle Eastern and Central Asian Studies, Australian National University The Middle East is on the brink of a possibly devastating regional war, with hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah reaching an extremely dangerous level. Washington has engaged in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Laura Elizabeth Eades, Rheumatologist, Monash University Lupus is an inflammatory autoimmune illness, where the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks itself. Lupus can affect virtually any part of the body, although it most commonly affects the skin, joints and kidneys. The symptoms ...
A law firm that specialises in working with survivors of abuse in State care is disappointed that the Government fails to recognise that its boot camps can be directly compared to previous boot camps from the 1990s and 2000s. ...
Dying is a natural part of life, like updating your Wof or seeing your hairdresser, but without the word-of-mouth recs that help guarantee a good service. What if we changed that? Dying Reviews received by The Spinoff have had the names of organisations redacted while Hospice NZ collects further data. ...
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Despite having no bars or other designated spaces for lesbians, Auckland boasts a small but mighty lesbian museum. So how did it get here? The past 18 months has brought increasing hostility towards the queer community across Aotearoa. Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull’s anti-trans rally in Tamaki Makaurau last March led to a ...
Poneke Antifascist Coalition has invited Wellingtonians to stand in solidarity with the Kanak people at 12pm today outside the French Embassy in Wellington. ...
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On ‘diversity’ .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We0sqgHAZKI
Paul Mason on “Britain’s Impossible Futures” at Le Monde Diplomatique
https://mondediplo.com/2019/02/01brexit
Bit confused. Can you please explain how you see that as being relevant to the clip I posted?
Diversity. See
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/04/deportation-flights-jamaica-government-windrush-scandal
on Teresa now resuming deportation flights to Jamaica – consistent with how she first made her UK political reputation in deporting Carribbeans who had arrived on a ship called ‘Windrush’.
Did you watch the clip or just see I had used the word?
I empathised with your theme of diversity.
The clip may unlock it differently for you.
Brexit’s gonna be a process of unintended consequences due to problems with internal ruling class structures (which is what it was an expression of in part) i’m guessing.
Dirty Politics from the dirty party:
Never a truer word said about the member for Rodney.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12198076
Interesting they went straight to Paula Bennett for comment. 😆
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12200803
Those “online trolls” were probably just the National MP’s caucus colleagues.
Standby….. nat trolls will now be actively trying to discredit the Tracey Martin via social media, because that’s how they roll when people speak the truth.
Tracey Martin discredits herself…..wasn’t it her that forgot linkedin didnt exist several years ago, and also appointing someone “independent” to the Wally Haumana investigation that had endorsed the person.
I think Tracey Martin is NZ First’s Clare Curran.
If this story was from a Labour MP it would be more credible (except maybe Kelvin Davis).
I wonder why you didn’t print this from the Martin in the same piece:
“It won’t be a shock to anybody that it’s a political tool. I wouldn’t be surprised if Labour runs similar groups of people.”
The short answer is that there aren’t. I’ve been looking for them for more than a decade. Every time I think I see a left group, it turns out that they have just had a split and several aren’t talking to each other. Think of The Daily Blog for an example of the usual behaviour.
I’ve come to conclusion that while there are a lot of lefties with some weird opinions, they are also extremely and usually excessively individualistic. Trying to get them to work closely together is an interesting exercise, and what you see here is about as good as it gets. However the better ones are pretty good at cooperating together so long as everyone else is aware that they’re just sort of heading in a similar direction.
Strikingly, and outright strangely for this dedicated iconoclastic loner, I think that I’m actually one of the more cooperative ones and one who actively works with a lot of people for work through to this.. And I’m used to regarded as a weird loner in every other part of my long life.
On the other hand, there are obvious groups of rightie trolls. They do tend to operate like a flock of carnivorous sheep. Their belief systems are weird as they all seem to believe the same crap as a group and keep repeating the same stupid ideas as a statement of fact regardless of contradictory evidence. Few seem to be able to think for themselves and they seem to require a pile of self-reinforcement from their flock
But on the net they are fierce warriors – right up until they are effectively challenged with facts. Then they huddle together and bleep how everyone is against them and that they need protection and every one should be polite to them. Think of Cameron Slater and his bunch of ‘warriors’ over the years. Or that bunch of no-hopers in the sewer section at
Kiwiblog.
In my ‘generalised’ opinion, many righties seem to lack a personal backbone and cling to what they know like it is a comforter and troll as a pack. While most lefties tend to be extreme individualists whose biggest problem is that they all think differently and each thinks that their own particular opinions are the very best.
Fair comments. I was simply trying to provide some wider context to the quoted comments, although I did find it interesting that Tracey Martin would put that thought out there.
She tries to be ‘balanced’. It is the political nature of a centre party and their politicians.
But basically she doesn’t know. Not exactly the most network or computer literate person or even politician based on her online presence.
I think that this site is the nearest thing (outside of the politicians) to a coordinated left group on the local net, and we’re a very loose co-operative with each author expressing their very distinct opinions. And there have been over 80 authors over the ~10.5 years.
From second link:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Labour runs similar groups of people.
Tracey Martin is totally wrong there. I suspect she was trying to appear non biased either way.
Labour encourages supporters to write letters to the newspapers and no doubt to talk about Labour’s policies online and respond to misinformation being presented as fact. What self respecting political party doesn’t including NZ First.
But no way does Labour set up groups of trained trolls (and we know the Nats do it from Hager’s “Dirty Politics”) to maliciously sabotage the efforts of opposition MPs? The odd individual may have been guilty in the past but it is not in Labour’s DNA to behave in such a lowbrow way.
We’ve seen the ploy here on many occasions although not so much in recent times. I recall last year submitting a reasonably innocuous comment about something or another and a small army of trolls descended on me and tore me to pieces. The word had apparently gone out. Plenty of others have had the same experience over the years.
I tend to agree – having one or two “ends justify the means” jerks in a party is unavoidable, but having them on the payroll is.
Besides, who on the left has the money to waste?
Or the time..
Seems like Martin used a similar tactic in 2011. Dirty politics I’d say on her part
Would you care to elaborate or link to something? Tracey Martin is a straight talker and I like her a lot because of it. But she’s wrong to assume that Labour indulges in the kind of “dirty politics” we’ve witnessed from National over the years.
Grantoc, In this instance I doubt that kiwiblog would be a credible source. JS
Discredit and distract……. and little david is trying hard to do that today looking at his blog.
Aussie Banks are damned in new reports coming from a Australian Royal investigation just released;
Question; Are NZ bank workers along with their bosses now in line to receive criminal charges? TSB has shown us solid support over many years so should be except here are the reasons.
I applied for a Kiwi bank account as a retired 68yr old homeowner in 2010 and we were refused, as my husband is disabled, and did honestly declare this on our application to Kiwi bank.
We complained as clients who were ‘completely clear of any bad credit history at all’ and the Kiwi bank Manager was acting unreasonable on the phone to us, and afterwards sent us a scathing letter effectively saying our profile as a client was not welcomed????
We never missed a mortgage payment with our previews accounts with two other banks.
We had an account at ANZ and TSB, so we were so shocked as my husband is disabled we only are concerned that disabled people are singled our for being denied for being clients with banks, and this is a breach of our human rights.
We are still with TSB. They are so far the best bank we have ever found.
NZ Banks need to be investigated as insurance companies are being now, and while we are at that issue of insurance companies wrong doings in NZ me and my husband had a life insurance policy with a insurance company in NZ since 1884 and when we become 68 our insurer cut our life insurance policy off after they doubled the premium and then cut off our account, so we lost our life insurance through extortion policies it seems as they were threatening to substantial raise our premium cost monthly at where no one on a pension could have afforded the cost.
Yes insurance and banks are apparently corrupt privateers.
Now the local councils around the country are telling us all they need to sell our assets such as Port airports and other “essential services” so all of us are in for yet more rorting of our money as privatising our assets will only bring the same greed policy we have witnessed in banking and insurance companies just to keep profits for “shareholders happy folks!!!
So we are doomed in this ‘corporate greed culture’ we have apparently embraced.
Just remember; – “What goes around comes around”
What were you applying for at kiwi bank? A chequing account or were you applying for some type of loan?
That’s very disappointing to hear. We were with ASB and ANZ and switched all our banking to Kiwi Bank several years ago when we bought a house. We have found them very good.
KiwiBank are no different to the big 4.
Kevin
Don’t diss Kiwibank – it is NZ owned not Australian. Definitely different from the big 4. And it has always had to fight to live against the asset strippers who have run NZ who were quite happy to have Australia make money from creating money to lend to us and take the profit which means they make the profit not us.
Get with it please.
It maybe NZ owned, but that is all.
They operate exactly the same way despite the advertising. If your circumstances change and you fall outside the box, they are just the same bunch or arseholes as BNZ, ANZ etc.
Kiwibank has to compete with the others, and can’t be too different. But they have kept going despite National and ACT (Actively Conning the Trusting), dissing them. I hope you are not a right-leaning person, it is a struggle to keep NZ alive and kicking despite the knockers. They earn money for NZ despite their corporate tendencies.
Also to note is TSB – completely NZ operation, and SBS (was Southland Building Society) which is NZ enterprise but uses Westpac as ‘clearing bank’, I think it is called.
They pay millions each year to foreign suppliers of their core banking infrastructure.
I was a Foundation Customer, something I was very proud of, and joined on day one. I have my mortgage with them and have always supported them.
Around three years ago I had a drop in income for six months (had to go on a four day week) and they went from being ‘best friends’ to absolute cunts in the blink of an eye.
When my mortgage comes up for renewal this year, I am out of there. Will go to Co-op or SBS.
I am not with Kiwibank Kevin. An initial test was that they charged $30? for a bounced cheque. At my previous bank I had paid in a cheque for about $30 for a payment to me, had it bounced and charged the same amount. So I was $60 out of pocket instead of $30 which being hard up made me sore. So when I saw what I thought of as ‘the people’s bank’ charged the same impost I took this as a sign that the reality was less than the expected.
I thought from the beginning that Kiwibank was ‘pretty conservative’ in their approach. But they are NZ and had to set up and stand up to opposition and sneering and doubts about their ability with small capital to be effective from such as ‘Yellow(turn)coat Hide’ and so they deserve some authentic accolades.
I am with SBS and have found them more than pretty good and TSB interested in helping small business.
Kiwibank succeeded immediately in stopping all the Aussie banks charging really high set fees just for the privilege of having an account with them. Anderton deserved to feel proud about that.
NBS is awesome.
Banks get like that when debt to income ratios drop.
Cooperative Bank NZ is really customer orientated. You will find it very easy to change. If you have a mortgage and your’e aged 65 + no fees.
It is nothing less than what the government is having to contend with with sectors on NZ pulling every which way for things to be returned to “normal” and coping with the extra demands regardless of the rhetoric the National Party left in its wake.
Some of those striking all of a sudden for pay deals that were denied them have been appeased but their is long list of people with demands.
Those demands, they should finally recognise, will never be met for most of NZ if a National Party government is ever let near the seats of power for quite some time.
National played divide and rule and they do it every day still with support from a lot of media while all the time swallowing a dead rat and telling the country that Simon Bridges is a “leader” in any sense of the term. Frankly if that is their best they deserve to moulder for a long, long time that that is what it has come to.
We had a hiccup some years back, went into Cooperative Bank NZ Branch here in Rotorua. After a stroke and early retirement we discussed our changed circumstances. They made several suggestions, and went the extra mile to help us implement a new budget that included rearranged payments on two things. We were given a 3 month break, the changed payment plan, and we got on top again as my health improved. This Bank is rated BBB which some would shun, but I have been with them since 1973. Norm was with Westpac. Their suggestion, ” You could sell up.” Needless to say he joined me at my bank!!. In Banks I am parochial.
Patricia B
Anecdotes like yours are very telling; proof of the pudding etc. As you say the grading BBB is interesting- based on what? Most of us will remember that right up to the GFC back a decade, the ratings agencies amongst them Standards & Poor’s (great name eh) were issuing gradings indicating the banks were AOkay to trade, and suddenly they weren’t. So what are gradings looking at?
On google:
Standard & Poor’s | Americas
https://www.standardandpoors.com/
In 28 countries around the world and a history that dates back more than 150 years, S&P Global Ratings provides high-quality market intelligence in the form of …
Ratings schmatings.
At the GFC hearings they admitted the ratings were ‘just their opinion’ and bore no resemblance to reality.
Yes Kevin;
Kiwibank was ruined under National ‘Key ism.’
Now it is seeded with corporate maggots now.
Jacinda needs to overhaul this bank we own?
She needs to deal firmly with the rorting insurance companies too!!!!!
I note that in Tuppence Shrewsbury’s fishing response he/she never showed concerns about out corrupt insurance companies,
Question is; – Does he/she (TS) work for that industry?
What specific policy did National implement in relation to Kiwibank that lead to it being ” seeded with corporate maggots “?
Personally I think you have little actual understandings of the workings of Kiwibank and are just spouting your unsubstantiated biased opinion.
I notice you smear me and avoid my question.
I don’t work in insurance, but I understand it and can comprehend policy wording. It’s not that difficult.
Were you opening a chequing account or seeking a loan? It makes a big difference if you are slagging a kiwi owned bank off and your accusation needs context
If you were applying for a loan – then looking at the profile you just gave – I’m not shocked you were turned down.
68 years old – single income (I assume from above)
Hardly the best risk profile.
But don’t you know he never missed a mortgage payment?
Which is the not the same as having security to allow a new one.
Pretty stupid rant really. Kiwi bank is consistently rated pretty high in customer satisfaction surveys, behind tsb but a long way ahead of ANZ. They also help keep NZ rural infrastructure in the form of post shops alive.
But if it ain’t rail, ol single issue nutter clean green ain’t interested
Yes we need to do this
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/growing-calls-treaty-waitangi-compulsory-part-school-curriculum?variant=tb_v_1
and shame
really? You are the co leader of a political party in power and you don’t know the articles contained within our founding document? ffs
Here let Gareth enlighten you – thanks Gareth.
Ardern was the OTHER “person at the highest level of Government” who couldn’t answer the question. Why single out Shaw when the PM and couldn’t answer the question either?
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today stumbled when asked by 1 NEWS what Article One of the Treaty says.
“Oh, Article One? On the spot?” Ms Ardern replied.
“Kawanatanga, sorry, excuse me,” she added when helped by ministers standing nearby.
So this is all okay with you?
Did i say that?
No you said why did I pick on him and not Jacinda. I suppose I was just surprised and disappointed really in James and the Greens.
It seemed we were going off on a tangent to my point which is why I asked if you are okay with this situation.
I hope the Greens walk the walk not just talk the talk.
I was also disappointed that Shaw could not answer that question i just didn’t think it was fair to not mention Ardern. Both should have been able to say.
I think though that not being able to immediately recall which article is which does not mean that they don’t understand the concepts involved.
As to my opinion on Treaty and Land Wars education being compulsory i have stated that many times here – I think it should be considered essential.
I think we are in agreement.
There are 3 articles and they aren’t that difficult – maybe the leaders should do some swot before this time next year
We can bet Jacinda will have been hunched over the books last night, which seems tardy for such a fundamental topic.
marty mars
I think you are a bit light on looking at understanding the Treaty. It is a bit difficult because of the application of the principle of it being a living document. So we start off with the three principles, then what meanings have been attributed to them. And what additional effects does each point have in certain circumstances and times and what interpretations have been made in current times.
So it could be a lively session as youngsters asked questions and discussed their views of the rights and wrongs. And even though they ended up not agreeing, they would understand more than the limited set of pre-judgments that they have embedded in their minds. Many adults have no understanding of the general principles of our law, and how being a law-based country is both restraining and freeing. There is little time in secondary and even primary I guess, spent on thinking about paradoxes and how we deal with them in culture and society, and how context makes its way into our thinking.
“I think you are a bit light on looking at understanding the Treaty.”
Probably. I was just touching very lightly on a specific area rather than going into it too deep. I have done some university papers around the treaty – I recommend it as well as chatting to tangata whenua at your local marae.
And Yes – think about going to the local marae TOMORROW 6 February Waitangi Day – it is the 6th of February all over the country not just at Waitangi!
Don’t let the overseas visitors have all the fun rapping and eating at the marae. Meet and eat with the local tangata whenua. Get there early and take part in the welcoming powhiri and hear what your Maori neighbours have to say about their special place. There will probably be some music, some singing, some kapa haka that has been practised and performed for everyone’s enjoyment and praise.
Take some money to buy food and you might see some interesting pendant or creative artwork. Embrace our nation’s biculturality, and there might be some multi-culture going on there too.
Great events at Te Āwhina Marae in Motueka and Whakatū Marae in Nelson.
I hope you enjoy our day.
Yes, the word “stumble” was used by the MSM except she didn’t stumble at all.
When faced with the question (which was designed to faze her) she openly said she had to think about it (or words to that effect) and them someone prompted her and immediately she recalled… and came up with the answer. A split second hesitation while she thought about it is NOT a stumble. A deliberately calculated wrong impression given in my opinion.
Thank you Anne for once again proving the bias against Ardern by MSM.
With her own rose coloured specs bias for Jacinda.
Proves nothing.
For Goodness sake. Are you serious”” How many times did PM Key say, I am not wearing that hat, I don’t have that available, etc.
PM Ardern pauses and is prompted and it is a crime??
You appear desperate…. Like MSM, trying to discombobulate!!
Spot on, Patricia – dead true.
I thought Willie Jackson gave her the answer?
Well to be fair she also didn’t know what GDP meant either so at least shes consistant 😉
puckish rogue
Oh yes, GDP, where the greedy get to control or own all the finite and priceless resources by pretending they have no value.
And fucking learn to spell while you’re at it.
While 😉
consistant at Dumbtionary.com. Consistent is the correct spelling for the word that you entered (consistant). This is based on commonly misspelled words.
consistant at Dumbtionary.com
http://www.dumbtionary.com/word/consistant.shtml
https://dumbtionary.wordpress.com/
And if it wasn’t so damned hot, I wouldn’t have sworn at you! But for being so clever, I’m glad I did.
Admittedly it was fairly low to start with, but my personal respecto-meter for Morgan just went up for the bloke after watching that.
Yep he did a good job with that vid and explanation.
Yes. The advantage of doing your homework. 🙂
I do wish more people would get that after its signing, Māori are part of both parties to the Treaty agreement including those represented by the Crown. Hence two bites at the cherry in some instances. And overwhelmingly generous in settlements as Morgan notes.
So do you agree with him that Maori ceded sovereignty? He doesn’t make sense on that as he says that the Tribunal is right to say that Ngapuhi did not cede sovereignty but then tries to argue that because they have accepted court rulings they have given up sovereignty so they did cede it in article one. Part of the build up to the Northern War was Ngapuhi chiefs not accepting the ruling of the courts. Just because they later accepted rulings because they had no choice does not mean they ceded it in the Treaty but rather that it was taken by force.
No I don’t agree. He’s good on the pithy explanation for those who don’t know but there is a lot more to know. I support tino rangatiratanga 100%
I really respect Morgan for trying to get educated in this area but his perspective is still simplistic. He starts by saying that the Treaty was signed by “two societies”. This is nonsense. The Treaty was singed by the British Crown and Iwi. What Morgan says is akin to saying that the EU is a treaty signed by Britain and Europe. At the time of the Treaty the word”Maori” just meant “ordinary person”. It was not a political or social structure.
He then goes on to argue that “Maori” own the water because they own everything that they have not sold to the Crown. But Hapu are mana whenua. Hapu own the resources. But if hapu owned the water what water did they own? Did they own the clouds above? Was it theirs when it fell on their whenua? When it flowed in their awa? Did it become the next hapu’s water when the awa crossed a territorial boundary? Could one hapu have built a dam and deprived the next of the water?
If it is the water falling on or passing through a whenua dictates ownership then shouldn’t this ownership right transfer when the land is sold? If that is the case then the Crown also owns water.
More importantly did Maori consider, and do they now consider, water as something that could or should be ‘owned’? Under English common law nobody owns water. This seems to me as a very sound principle. Morgan comes from the perspective of a capitalist economist. He seeks to determine the ownership of assets rather than enter into a complex philosophical discussion on disparate perspectives. Maori have specific interests in and rights to water while Pakeha have general rights. A reductionist capitalist asset allocation will not cut the mustard.
ps
That gringo should show more care with the lingo: “tay-ray-owe”
“At the time of the Treaty the word ”Maori” just meant “ordinary person”. It was not a political or social structure.”
Then why would the English have negotiated and sought signatures from iwi and hapu chiefs?
And in Te Ao Maori, water owns people who are charged with protecting it. The concept is of guardianship, not ownership.
Then why would the English have negotiated and sought signatures from iwi and hapu chiefs?
I don’t understand your question. Iwi and Hapu chiefs not Maori chiefs.
Those are political and social structures. They have been called ‘Māori’ as an umbrella term for the other party to the Treaty. What was your point?
Wow sounds like you have some great questions for tangata whenua tomorrow at the waitangi day ceremony, event and marae that you may be going to – let us know what they say.
I’ll be taking the kid to Waitangi for the day tomorrow but i’m going to try really hard to keep away from politics and spend the time with her absorbing the vibe.
Nice – wish I was up there too. I work tonight so my start to the day is later. Kia kaha – I really enjoy your comments and thinking.
Not too sure myself but off the bat –
Right to govern ceded to the Queen.
Land rights guaranteed.
Citizenship of the empire granted to all.
How did I do?
A +
I agree it should be part of the core curriculum, and I’m a bit surprised that it’s not.
But I think knowing the vibe of it is more important, even for representatives, than remembering the order or precise contents of the Articles for spot quizzes.
True.
I suspect because it is not uppermost in the majority of citizens minds they don’t think about it much. Pity it isn’t engraved, like the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution in the gun nut minds, into our consciousness.
The gun nuts usually forget the bit about a well regulated militia, though 😉
Yeah the analogy is weak. If people care they remember imo
Depending on the situation of whether they’re asked, and sometimes the value is in remembering that it’s there rather than the exact particulars.
It’s the sort of thing where if I sat down somewhere quiet and thought for a few minutes, I’d probably do better than if I had to answer it on my feet out of the blue.
True.
I think we can do better. Compulsory treaty learning seems the way to go.
Funny – how many remember the 3 ships Columbus used to get over the ditch before he ravaged the new lands. A lot I’d say yet hardly relevant to us here.
Interesting conversation with a Dairy owner yesterday. He has a dozen double glass door fridges, pie warmers, freezers, none of them his. Companies pay for the fridges, pay for and are prompt with maintenance, and: …. dictate what is allowed in their appliances.
It’s monopoly by stealth. You stock the fridge, you don’t stock the competitors products.
That’s why so many dairies have the same rubbish wall to wall. That’s why local pie makers and drink makers are pushing shit uphill before they get started.
Coke is the largest culprit, V is not far behind whoever owns them. Big Ben pies, fuck your horrible nasty products I can’t buy a decent pie because of your crap, and Irvines is similarly rubbish in a pastry wrap.
No wonder we’re in so much trouble. We spend our waking hours devising ways to fuck everyone else over so we can sell rubbish in place of food.
Business.
Yep that’s big business for you. Putting yourself in the dairy owners shoes, of course you would take the offer of free freezers etc. as it saves him thousands on buying and maintaining them himself.
But as you say, the flip side is the consumer has less choice of brands to choose from.
And I agree with you ….its hard to get a decent pie these days…..try finding a bakery some of them are good.
I’m guessing this is a resultant of the owner not having the capital to purchase there own fridge, and the reality of the income generated for them by the fridge as part of there business.
I’ve seen it in industry like 3D printing where the industrial scale versions have systems that control the materials used. They become hostage to the inflated price at say $600 kg when generic material is available at about $50 kg. Eventually competition provides machines allowing generic material and the extorting companies are abandoned.
Same as the fridge. The owner gets the capital to by there own fridge and can stock products without the extortionary use of the fridge providers products. It could be the business owner is happy with the arrangement and puts available capital spend elsewhere.
If you don’t like what they are selling don’t buy it. Want a nice pie go to a Bakery.
A similar situation exists with pubs where the taps etc are supplied by a brewery and the competitors’ products are banned.
Here’s an excerpt from a February 2017 Herald article.
“….. despite increasing consumption, there’s a mystifying lack of outlets showcasing the diversity of New Zealand’s brewing ecosystem.
“Most pubs and bars in New Zealand have ‘tied taps’, meaning that they are under contract to sell a limited range of beers owned by the brewery.”
Very evident on a road triStap in the southern South Island. Mind you, that’s when I go to pubs for meals and accommodation. At home there are two popular untied pubs, with excellent food as well as beer. One highlights Japanese food, the other German style.
There seems to be a link between quality of product sold and the commercial nature of the publican’s business arrangements. The untied seem to enjoy a different focus more on quality as well as variety.
The benefits to a small business are great. But it is still big money using big money to control small business, via either exclusion or contracted collusion.
I’m sure it’s all legal. That’s how they do if possible…
Yeah true about pubs aye. Two pubs per town. A Lion pub and a DB pub. And from region to region you couldn’t tell what you were walking into by brand of pub. In the Waikato the Bikers drank at Lion pubs, in Taranaki, DB… You never knew what was in the parcel from the packet. As a wee teen it paid to be careful. You could drink underage the length and breadth of the country but it was still an adults world.
A kid thumbing the road might seek solace from the sun. Might accidentally strut his mohawk hairdo into a Lion Pub on the outskirts of the Waikato, to find a Mongrel Mob bar full of patch members, he might order a shot instead of the beer he wanted, he might then down it and walk back out all cool like, but in a timely manner!
😀
Interesting.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018680874/laura-watts-orkney-s-sustainability-revolution
…the idea that remote rural communities are [slow?] allow on the uptake is demonstrably untrue in Orkney.
“Actually it is the opposite, when things are small-scale it means you know who to pick up the phone to make things happen, you’re fleet of foot.”
Orkney is now energy rich to the extent that it created a problem for its electricity grid.
“Having 120 percent energy generating is a serious problem, because it loads electricity on to the grid and when you start loading too much electricity on to cables they tend to blow fuses or melt – literally.”
Showing a knack for problem solving, the Islanders decided to generate hydrogen with the surplus power it was making, which it could then store or sell.
“Hydrogen fuel is one way that you can store electricity off the grid and bring it back on when you need it.
The islanders decided to take the surplus energy to run an electrolyser which splits sea water into hydrogen and oxygen.
The electrolyser sits on one of the Orkney islands called Edie, which has 180 residents.
“What’s going on in Orkney is neither a dystopian future where they’ve given up, nor is it a utopian future where they’ve said somebody else or technology will save the day.
“It’s not some renewable energy nirvana that’s going on, it’s a challenging place, part of what’s happening is because there are high levels of fuel poverty and there are still too many people in Orkney on fuel poverty all the initiatives are very much driven by how do we make the energy cheaper.”
Can we say the results and outcomes in NZ show that we have ‘a knack for problem solving’?
environment
3 Feb 2019
Laura Watts: Orkney’s sustainability revolution
From Sunday Morning, 8:38 am on 3 February 2019
Orkney used to be a study in how to use energy unsustainably. The archipelago off the northern tip of Scotland bought and imported all its power from coal and gas plants on the Scottish mainland.
These days it generates more electricity than it needs via a host of wind turbines and through capturing tidal energy
Author Laura Watts has studied the sustainable energy revolution taking place on the far-flung islands, she tells Jim Mora that innovation often occurs at the edge of things.
Maybe the interview on Radionz this morning would be pertinent to this matter – about nz coastal rips.
9:20 Predicting rips
University of Canterbury Coastal Geomorphologist Dr Seb Pitman is developing a way of mapping rip tides on Muriwai beach. He explains to Kathryn Ryan how GPS “drifters” could predict rips and make sea swimming safer.
Well said greywarshark;
My wife comes from ‘Herne Bay’ along the river Thames in UK.
At the coastal area of the English Thames river mouth where it meets the English channel we saw they install ‘Beakwaters’ after the horrific storm ruined her town of Hearne Bay in the 1950’s..
They have enormous ‘rip tides’ from the ‘north sea’ and calmed their areas of those coastal regions and river mouth waterways.
We saw these coastal regions being calmed by placing ‘ breakwaters’ along many tidal prone areas.
I guess those breakwaters could harness energy that could be used etc…..
More countries are choosing sides, re Venezuela.
European nations including France, Spain, Germany, Britain, Portugal, Sweden, Denmark, Austria and the Netherlands are supporting the leader of the opposition.
With everything going on and the population just wanting someone, anyone to save them from impending starvation as a result of economic collapse;, how much do people really know about Juan Guaido?
Interestingly enough Guaido made his claim as interim President the day after a call with Mike Pence.
Where there is oil, you can almost guarantee the USA is involved.
The Listening Post….. article is the first one up, approx 11 mins long.
If he could nationalise oil, why not rice?
Love your work Gabby 🙂
Guaido “is a Venezuelan engineer and politician serving as the President of the National Assembly of Venezuela since 5 January 2019. A member of the centrist social-democratic Popular Will party, he also serves as a federal deputy to the National Assembly, representing the state of Vargas. On 23 January 2019, Guaidó took a public oath to serve as interim President of Venezuela. The inauguration of Nicolás Maduro as President of Venezuela earlier that month was contested and the National Assembly considered the position vacant; under the Constitution of Venezuela, if the office of President of the Republic becomes vacant, the President of the National Assembly may serve as interim president until elections can be held.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Guaid%C3%B3
If people keep avoiding the fact that his assumption of the office was authorised by the Venezuelan Constitution, someone has to keep reminding them of reality. Could get tedious, eh? Those who would rather believe the neocon plot theory, or the lone-wolf competing with the dictator theory, ought perhaps to reassess the merit of such hallucinations.
“Part of a large family, and of modest origins, Guaidó was raised in a middle-class home by his parents, Wilmer and Norka. His father was an airline pilot and his mother, a teacher. One grandfather was a sergeant of the Venezuelan National Guard while another grandfather was a captain in the Venezuelan Navy.
Guaidó lived through the 1999 Vargas tragedy which left his family temporarily homeless; he lost friends and his school. The tragedy, according to his colleagues, influenced his political views after the then-new government of Hugo Chávez allegedly provided ineffective response to the disaster. He said, “I saw that if I wanted a better future for my country I had to roll up my sleeves and give my life to public service.”
Those seeking to demonise a young man who wants to provide his country with a positive alternative have an onus on them to present evidence that he is actually a demon. None have yet. Occam’s razor implies we ought to take him at face value unless we get good reason not to.
For balance, I suggest people read Chris Trotter’s article on The Daily Blog, as well as Gordon Campbell’s @ Werewolf.
Correction – only Chris trotter’s article.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/381749/history-teachers-decry-shameful-ignorance-of-colonial-maori-history
Now i have heard it all! Kelvin Davis and Chris Hipkins not willing to jump in and say yes our own history should be compulsory subjects. The affirmative is an obvious approach on the basis that ‘if we don’t know where we have come from, we can’t understand where and how we are going’.
We are lost in a sea of misinformation and withdrawal from truth and our achievements and also our fallacies and flaws under this privatisation approach that says no compulsion, no regulation and leaves our lives and commitment to our country to people who flap in the wind of commercial interests.
Thank god for Maori drive to know their history, and show capabilities, for instance in building a waka and sailing it to Raratonga. A visual symbol of greatness. How can we make the country great again, when we don’t know our past greatness in the first place?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/northland/8699257/Waka-make-historic-trip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Busby
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/top/381724/waitangi-roars-into-life-as-hekenukumai-busby-becomes-sir-hek
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/maori/news/article.cfm?c_id=252&objectid=12063372
https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/kupe-voyaging-by-the-stars-1993
https://www.maoritelevision.com/news/regional/native-affairs-summer-series–dying-art-waka-building
They wouldn’t want people to find out there was a party for working people long time age greysy.
Long time ago – it must seem so to many – the ones born after 1984 and after the advent of the computerisation generation ‘CGs”.
Makes me think of Don McLean – ‘long time ago’ and ‘the day the music died’ from Bye Bye American Pie.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/don-mclean-american-pie-live-day-music-died-786825/
(https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/american-pie-not-about-buddy-holly-singer-don-mclean-says-60-years-later/
“Buddy Holly’s death is what I used to try to write the biggest possible song I could write about America. And not a ‘This Land Is Your Land’ or ‘America, the Beautiful” or something like that. I wanted to write a song that was completely brand new in its perspective.”
He added: “(It was) this idea of being a rock ‘n’ roll dream, or a fantasy, of some sort. But it’s a dream where things morph into other things.”
“The day the music died” initially refers to the plane crash, McLean said, but takes on “so many things” as the song progresses through six verses.
“The music is the poetry of life, it’s the spirit of something,” McLean said. “It’s the essence of art. It’s so many things. So, as the song develops after each verse, that music has died, you see? So I realize at a metaphor it was perfect for what I was thinking.”
Many of us are thinking that now.
+ 1 yep – until we know the past our foundation will continue to be weak and the society we have built on it a fragile, tottering lie. Proof? Suicide stats and all the rest of the indicators even down to our filthy water in our rivers and beaches.
If you want to see a car crash interview watch this one with Ken Livingstone on Venezuela.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUG2gZGTSmU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3rFoN0lyzNIGw5GEbgM-8T9oO3msP9vKizC6MqKy23J8yVA8UJnWg3M6I
Best Line – ” I know the economy has been damaged by sanctions because the Venezuelan ambassador told me”
LOL!
Stealing children from their parents and placing them with the right families looks like child trafficking and smells like child trafficking.
The tRump regime is a child trafficking cartel
And not one motherfucker will see jailtime over it.
but they are good christian families ……………and these are little catholic heathen children that should be lucky to be so lucky.
what they are saying is we don’t know where the children are, and we can’t possibly get them back, and we don’t know where the parents are…and besides its business, really good business for the ones that run the internment camps for babies, toddlers to teenagers, for the adoption businesses (the christian ones DeVos comes up again and again), and besides the US will need an underclass in twenty years as much as they need their underclass now. After all how can all the white people feel superior if they are no others left to be superior too?
Everything that i was afraid would happen before the election came true. And so many so many many many could not give a flying fuck, cause he is not beholden to money, he will drain the swamp, he will not start world war three, he is not corrupt, he is this and he is that, and he is all i ever wanted him to be, despite the fact that the man in his whole life has shown nothing but contempt for everyone and everything, has bankrupted everything he laid his hands on, has lusted after his daughter publicly, and to boot has surrounded himself with the worst that the US has to offer in supporters and enablers.
Every single Trump supporter, water carrier, should be ashamed. Simply that. Nothing more nothing left. Just shame, and pity for children who will never be really whole again.
I read both the standard and kiwiblog because I find them both on the same pegging. The Standard is generally quite centre left and Kiwiblog quite centre right. I avoid whale oil and the daily blog because Slater and Bomber share the same traits – just on different sides of the fence.
My politics are much aligned with the standard but occasionally kiwiblog does something worth considering and this post I thought was very good:
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/02/pm_fell_for_the_quiz_trick.html
I agree.
Jacinda should have told the idiot reporter that she wasn’t playing those games
Yep. Totally stupid question, and a good response by Farrar.
Arse.
It was a red meat cue for his commenters to insult, exercise their bigotry and vent their vile, misogynist bile .
It played to the assumption that politicians ought to know what they’re talking about. Why should they? Representatives elected to represent most people are selected because most see them as an accurate match. So the aggregate effect, as per statistics, locates them atop the bell curve, centred on the exact median intelligence of the populace. How many kiwis could tell you the correct answer? Way less than 1%! Unreasonable to expect politicians to be less ignorant than the average voter…
I despair for your reasoning that those in charge of leading our nation should not be more intelligent than the average voter.
I wasn’t thrilled by the realisation when it first occurred to me years ago. But it stands to reason, eh? Identity politics, people identify most with the one they tick at the ballot box. Lowest-common-denominator design of democracy ensures that mediocrity is produced as output.
That’s why I started advocating meritocracy as a positive alternative. We can use codesign to evolve it as an alternative political system. Not to replace democracy, but to complement it.
Another death resulting from easy-peasy attitudes. A Korean man with family and little English holidaying here. Sandboarding down slope. Part of a group on one bus. A second bus pulls into the area where he will slide to a stop. He goes under the bus while his family watches. Why can’t tourist companies work together and help keep their precious trusting customers safe? Cosset them FGS.
Just run through some what-ifs and be ahead of the problems that will crop up.
Health and Safety are OTT often but you can see their necessity when there are so many cowboys running companies, or with employees that haven’t had the job and methods properly explained to them. How do companies feel about their employees suffering at having been involved in this sort of thing. The sadness and the nightmares, and the shakes? Everyone suffers. We need to do better.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/381779/korean-tourist-s-sandboarding-death-preventable-police
The beach is classed as a road so road rules apply. Who is responsible for a “pedestrian stepping out onto the “road?”
Ah. Well the first thing to consider is that both buses are in the tourism business and so it is wise to not go running down each other’s clients. Not good for business.
Then the next is that there is always an over riding rule about driving in that the speed and manner should be suitable for the conditions. Though I imagine that a driver would not expect a pedestrian to come shooting down a dune beside which he is driving, at a great rate of knots, so his shock and surprise can be understood. So we come back to due care and attention in driving into an area with super-speed people on toboggans shooting around the place.
And then consider a need for caution in looking after people from a different country, not speaking English, and who expect a modicum of expertise and care in a supposedly sane, civilised country. They put their trust in us and find it wanting because we are wanting in the head, just a little, but she’ll be right!
After just reading a bit of Bertie Wooster I may have imbibed a bit of PG Wodehouses style I’m afraid. But still I think I have covered your points ianmac.
If anyone thinks the State owning businesses is a desirable goal Venezuela should give you pause for thought.
“Even so, De Freitas said the initial findings paint a picture of an oversized state hemorrhaging money — at a time when the country desperately needs it. The organization found that 70 percent of the 511 companies have produced losses in 2016 totaling 1.29 trillion bolivares — or about $129 billion dollars. That amount is 14 percent higher than what the government earmarked for education, health, housing, and social security that same year.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article138402248.html
Ok mate, then what about SOE’s in the Western style Gulf States and in Singapore along with Singapore’s State run Super?
We also have the Nordic Nations SOE’s (Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Finland) and their State run Super schemes?
Would you care to explain why they are going gangbusters? Which are in your warp mind of the free market Neo- Con/ Lib BS shouldn’t be State Own or State Run. I don’t why you keep craping on about some tin pot country in Latin America? Because I really don’t give a shit about as there are important issues in the SP Region and NZ that need addressing than a bunch of muppets with their fingers in that country’s coffers.
A State run investment scheme is not the same as a State Owned Enterprise.
So what you are saying that all those countries mentioned should disinvest from their SOE’s that are making a return/ profit for their taxpayers and the State disinvest from them as they distorted the so- call free market in your little warped mind of your Neo- Lib/Con BS. Even though they protect the economic wealth of those mentioned countries over the longer term, unlike little old NZ which flogged off almost all of its SOE’s and as a result has gone backwards compared to those countries over the longer term.
From you logic it seems in your warped little mind the State should only divest from assets when they make a loss. While I don’t care when the State divests themselves of such assets your option will mean far less return than if they were sold if they were profitable.
No Sir, having read your posts over the years. Is that you lot believe that all Governments should disinvest from all Government SOE’s and leave it to the market to sort out?
Unlike those countries that I mentioned, they have use those profits to be invest back into to those SOE’s or into a Sovereign Wealth Fund for a rainy day or in a couple cases they have use the interest payments to reduce government tax income in which they still maintain a higher standard of living across the with well funded Government Departments such as Health, Education etc.
In the case the of NZ, you lot flogged everything off, lower taxes to the upper echelons of society, screw the workers employment rights and WHS aka Pike River Coal Mine along with wrecking every Government Department though lack of funding and making them run as business. As you lot have said the market is always right and private industry is better than Government.
Well these countries that I have mentioned compared to your tin pot country from South America that you keep crapping on about, must be doing something wrong then?
Btw I have none time in Singers and in a couple of the Western Style Gulf States and met a few the ministers along the way. They can’t get their head around the stupidity of the Neo Con/Lib economic theory that you lot brought in from the mid 80’s to the present. Us Expat Kiwi’s BS unlike you sir or your dumb ass backers/ oil snake salesman of the Neo Con/ Lib economic theory.
The Vikings, Arabs, and the jokers from Singers aren’t the stupid ones here, lovely boy! But you Mr Magoo and your Neo Con/ Lib Mates who are after a quick buck for the race to the bottom of the nearest pissaphone or thunderbox are the stupid ones here.
Not to mention filling the public service with incompetent status obsessed funknuts from the private sector management sump.
You mean, SMEFA Subject Matter of Fuck All or LARToBOP Lazy And Ripping Taxpayers off By Over Pricing.
Or this one from the UK as they are now the sole provider of HM Combat Ships, BAES Big And Expensive Ships.
Or this one which I forgot to mention, when a private contractorscomes round saying they have fixed the problem and when they really haven’t. ISBACSICRT’O I Should Be A Contractor So I Can Rip Taxpayers Off.
Which is still less return than if they weren’t sold at all.
You assume they make money if they remain in State hands. The example of Venezuela (and many other countries) suggests they don’t.
xkf has mentioned other examples that suggest they do.
Hell, we sold profitable SOEs because… foolishness.
State run is state run El Gozzerino.
Yeah – but then we have all the local evidence of privatisations, which shows unequivocally that the private sector generally only contributes corruption. Service standards fall, promises made to secure the assets (Max Bradford’s “prices will fall”) prove to be lies, cost of living rises and the state is deprived of income for social spending. That evidence, the applicable evidence, shows incontrovertibly that privatization is essentially fraud in drag as business, and no NZ citizen should support it for a moment – in fact we ought to press our politicians to reverse the rorts that have fallen short of the promises made to justify looting the public estate.
Go and tell it to the Venezuelans, I’m sure they know more about what works and doesn’t in their own country than any far-right foreigner.
Happy Chinese New Year. We are now in the year of the pig – gonna be a good one especially for those turning 60. Doesn’t bode well for some lol
“Unlucky things
Colors: blue, green”
dang it back to the drawing board gnat big brains.
I’m a Horse so all good.
If anyone is interested in knowing more about Chinese Astrology, here is the forecast for the year from Lillian Bridges who lives in the US but learned from her Chinese grandmother. Very well respected author, speaker and teacher.
https://flowermountain.org/year-of-the-pig?fbclid=IwAR35x9_jRwK0_HP1mZO_RN_YXWDj7ff52mA8jilFbVWAFFls1GE5xpcgON0
I’m sure it’s not at all a giant load of codswallop.
yay NOW the year can begin…
Maintenance of the Treaty
The British people Raided, Stole, Enslaved, Slaughtered numerous peoples under Queen Elizabeth 1, 1553 – 1603.
The British raided 90 different Nations from Elizabeth’s time up unitl very recently.. If you look at the school map of “British Empire” you will see the extent of its Rape.
When it Raided and Stole New Zealand, it took Maori Children, Women and Men to War. By Gun. That was in 1840. It handed the the reluctant Maori people a defective Treaty.
The Bastard Thieving Brits have never apologised. They never do.
Supporting the Maori is expensive. The Bill is largely paid by the low wage workers Pakeha and Maori.
To ease the situation for Maori and the low paid workers (pakeha and Maori) I believe that a levy should be paid by the excessively wealthy New Zealanders and their Share Holders. Their Tax Rorts included.
The burden thrown on NZ by the British Crown needs attention. It needs it now.
Lets do it.
There was war between Maori tribes before Europeans arrived in NZ. Was there ever apology between tribes after these battles ? Just wonder as maybe it was only passed down with oral history ?
There must have been or that Te Rauparaha haka wouldn’t be so widely used would it. Be a bit of a slap at the descendants of his victims.
Josie Butler banned, but Brash and Tamaki are okay?!?!?!?!?
What the F*&K is going on in this country?
Checkpoint, RNZ National, Tuesday 5 February 2019. 5:38 p.m.
Josie Butler should have been given a medal for throwing a dildo at that dickhead Steven Joyce in 2016. Instead, she’s been banned from the Treaty grounds, while a vicious racist (Don Brash) and a rabble-rousing thug (Brian Tamaki) are allowed free access.
This is a disgraceful affair, instigated by some disgusting chump at Police HQ, and featuring the usual dispiriting cast of sad lickspittles and minor officials. Most contemptible of the lot of them is one Peter Paraone, who apparently was a New Zealand First List M.P. for some years. If he was, no one noticed him.
This afternoon, Paraone finally did something to force himself on the public’s attention. He nodded his head and said “Yes boss.”
LISA OWEN: So you banned her because the Police requested you to ban her?
PETER PARAONE: Uh, yes.
LISA OWEN: Why?
….Long silence….
PETER PARAONE: Uh, I’m not familiar with the detail….
I think people who throw things should be banned. Appalling behaviour to treat anyone that way. If we want people to turn up to Waitangi then they at least need to feel safe.
Law professor Andrew Geddis is not amused: https://twitter.com/acgeddis/status/1092645672979853313
Hi Bazza64
I could agree with you that there are major inequalities between various parts of New Zealand currently. Also major variations in incomes.
Wealthy New Zealanders however, are not at all interested in paying realistic wages to their staff.
You may have heard that no low wage Worker can afford to Buy a home in New Zealand. Not can they afford Rental accommodation without skinflint assistance.
I hope you avoid Poverty Bazza64.
I’m not in poverty & agree housing costs have turned totally unrealistic, not just for low wages earners. I think the statement about wealthy NZers not interested in paying realistic wages may not be accurate – not sure where you get this from ? Most NZ businesses are small & while I agree that employees should be paid more, I know quite a few small businesses whose owners work long hours & their hourly rate isn’t flash either.
To: Bazza64
Your pertinent words:
“I know quite a few small businesses whose owners work long hours & their hourly rate isn’t flash either”.
The rise and rise of big Business is the destruction of small Business.
The huge resources of big Business have been allowed to all but obliterate the former opportunities of individuals and families in our Country. Thanks to our appalling politicians.
The money Big Business makes in NZ, is shipped out to its owners in Australia, Korea, China, Saudi Arabia. And god knows where else. Further adding to the poverty of individuals and families in NZ.
The only solution I can see is to Levy the very wealthy sector of Business and the Wealthy (and their Share Holders) so that Financial Equity returns to New Zealanders.
So that the Banks operating here should return at least 1 Billions of $dollars Per Annam. And so on to all the Businesses of great wealth.
All that our Parliament has done since the rise of National is denude the wealth of Aotearoa. This must be turned around. And Quickly.
You’re totally correct re big business – the worst thing is companies like Apple, Google etc make money here, but seem to pay very little tax. There was an outcry about this several months ago, but I haven’t heard anything more since then, hopefully government will update the tax rules to stop this happening.
It’s great to read details surrounding Te Tiriti O Waitangi being discussed and debated in Open Mike today. Hopefully a healthy discussion will continue tomorrow, 6 February.
We should do this for every person the Australian Government tries to deport to New Zealand.