Hope Theo Speirings is having a little pause for thought about his strategy of following China’s great sucking engine to bulk and lower-end value products as our national basis for pastoral wealth.
It’s not very often I’d link to a Daily Mail article, but these pics of Gaza tell a story that show this devastation by the Israelis will echo for years in the Middle East – even if Israeli does meet its objective of clearing Gaza.
Thank you miravox. Those pictures illustrate what daily life must be like for Palestinians during this genocide.
The scale of horror and the depth of grief is hard enough for the world to comprehend and digest let alone imagine being Palestinian.
Everyone has probably seen this as it’s been floating around the net for days but I’ve only just heard this letter being read out on the 9am radio news in place of the usual news. The description of the treatment of Palestinians, adults and children by the settlers was particularly sobering:
The psychology of such a position must surely be studied and debated by those working in the field.
Psychology has it’s origins in some very talented Jewish people, the pioneers of the study of the mind in the late 19th century. Alfred Adler in particular stood out and took the concepts of Freud, refined them and whose theories contributed toward the evolution of psychotherapy.
The Adlerian approach looks at the individual in a holistic sense and considers social equality as a factor in their well being. I have been wondering lately what students and practitioners of the Adlerian movement (and other humanistic branches of psychology) would make of a culture giving life to their ancestral and collective rage, grief and oppression and turning an another culture, as undeserving of such cruelty as they were in the first place.
“I just cannot reconcile the psychology of a “race” who suffered from genocide permitting themselves the position of genocidal maniacs”
Need to separate-out (1) European Holocaust victims and (2) Zionists in Palestine. Their identity and interests are too often conflated.
I think the first thing to understand is that the Zionism on which Israel was established emerged from precisely the same deeply reactionary, anti-Enlightenment ideological mix (German/East European Romantic Nationalism and Imperialism) that so greatly inspired and animated the Nazis. ‘Blut und Bone’. Violent Ethnic-cleansing has always been implicit in that sort of extreme ethno-nationalist ideology where the emphasis is on membership of the prescribed ‘Race’ / ‘Blood’ / ‘Culture’ over universalist ideas of Equality and Citizenship. The aim was always to militarily carve-out an ethnically-pure (or failing that, overwhelmingly Jewish) ‘Greater Israel’ on Palestinian land (before Zionist colonisation got fully underway in the early 20C, Palestinian Arabs had comprised well over 90% of the population for more than 1300 years, with the tiny, indigenous Jewish community making up less than 5%. What’s more, that small indigenous Jewish community was overwhelmingly anti-Zionist and most of their descendants remain so. Important, I think, to remember that whenever you hear the line that this is some sort of ancient Arab-Jewish conflict that has gone on in Palestine for centuries. The kind of tosh that regularly emanates from the “pro”-Israel lobby).
It was, of course, a reaction to (at times, pretty vicious) anti-Semitism in Europe, the Baltic States and Russia, but the thing is Zionists completely accepted and internalised the deeply conservative ethno-nationalism underpinning that anti-Semitism, taking it as a prescription for a future Zionist state. If you look at early Zionist views of the Jewish community in Europe you’ll find they were remarkably similar to the vicious racial stereotypes of the more extreme 19C anti-semites (which were, of course, later adopted by the Nazis). The middle-class German Jews at the heart of the early Zionist movement entirely accepted all of those anti-Jewish stereotypes and argued that the way to change these alleged traits was to do for the Jews what the anti-Semitic ultra-conservative German Nationalists wanted to do for Germany – create an ethnically-homogenous homeland where they could create their conception of a new, self-respecting Jewish-Settler, plough in one hand, gun in the other, using force to carve-out this new ethnically-pure Eretz Israel.
On top of that, it pays to remember that the Israeli Right were openly fascist during the first half of the 20C. Jabotinsky’s Revisionist movement (from which Sharon and Netanyahu’s Likud Party emerged) greatly admired Mussolini and their Irgun and Stern gang terrorist groups of course included two future Israeli PMs. In the end, though, as far as attitudes to the colonisation of Palestine are concerned, they were little different in their ethos to Ben-Gurion’s Israeli Labour Party (and its precursors) and the mainstream Haganah (forebear of the IDF).
Second thing is: the Yishuv (pre-Israeli State Zionist community in Palestine) and its leaders like Ben-Gurion had a very dodgy relationship with the Holocaust. A good deal of collaboration took place with both the Nazis and other anti-Semitic leaders and groups in Europe / the Baltic nations in order to encourage Jewish emigration to Palestine (including an ultimately successful Zionist campaign to end an American Jewish-organised economic boycott of Nazi Germany). Strenuous efforts to prevent European Jews escaping Germany/Mainland Europe to Britain and the US (for the Yishuv leaders it had to be Palestine or nothing). The bullying of Holocaust survivors in immediate post-war Displaced Persons Camps (the US allowed Zionist groups from Palestine to take over many of these camps, and Holocaust survivors – the vast majority of whom wanted to go to the US – were largely forced through coercion (including outright violence) to emigrate to Palestine instead).
And when Holocaust survivors arrived in Israel, they were treated abominably by a sizeable portion of Israeli society, particularly by State officials (albeit with honourable exceptions). All of which is best encapsulated by the derisive Yishuv slang name for Holocaust survivors “soap” (based on the now-discredited idea that Holocaust victims’ bodies had been turned into soap by the Nazis). The survivors were deemed shameful by Zionists because they and the 6 Million victims were considered to have gone like lambs to the slaughter – whereas Zionism was all about celebrating the self-respecting, gun-toting, take-no-prisoners Zionist Jew. Many survivors were forced – again against their will – to fight in the 1948 War. Many, having survived the Holocaust against all the odds (and still greatly traumatised) went on to die in that War for an Israeli nation that largely despised them.
The Holocaust, of course, only became important to Israel after its leaders decided it could be of political use to close down criticism of Israeli policies (largely after Adolf Eichmann’s trial in 1962). It’s been said that to this day a disproportionate number of Holocaust survivors and their descendants live below the poverty line in Israel (some 50,000 by one recent estimate). Meanwhile, Israeli banks continue to refuse to return money to the families of Holocaust victims who had deposited significant sums in Zionist banks in pre-Israel Palestine. It’s an on-going scandal. So much for Israel’s solemn Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Thank you Swordfish. That’s a very helpful historical background and goes quite some way to providing an explanation for current behaviours. It’s also an education. (for myself at least)
Thanks so much for that swordship. Hugely helpful to my understanding of the reality of Israel and Palestine.
I was (note WAS) one of those who for years fell for the Israeli Government line that they were the oppressed ones. Indeed I even considered the Palestinians to be mad and dangerous. I hang my head in shame. My own experiences in England 40 odd years ago (I lived for a couple of years with Jewish people married to relatives of mine) suggest there were many good Jewish people of English origin who were equally taken in.
Israel will get its come-uppance one day. It may happen in a different way to Natzi Germany but the world is finally waking up to them. I no longer turn a hair when we are confronted on the Telly with the death of Israeli soldiers etc. Good riddance!
“I just cannot reconcile the psychology of a “race” who suffered from genocide permitting themselves the position of genocidal maniacs”
Richard Dawkins also has an answer…patriarchal monotheism…otherwise known as Religious Fundamentalism. In 2006 Richard Dawkins wrote in ‘The God Delusion’:
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant
character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust,
unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a
misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal,
pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent
bully.”
I hadn’t seen Brian Eno’s letter before, so thanks for posting Rosie. Agree with Ennui about incomprehension of people who suffered the Holocaust causing wiping out Gaza. Beyond the psychological context – maybe this para from Eno explains some of social/cultural context (which also ties in with swordfish’s explanation).
By the way, most of them are not ethnic Israelis – they’re ‘right of return’ Jews from Russia and Ukraine and Moravia and South Africa and Brooklyn who came to Israel recently with the notion that they had an inviolable (God-given!) right to the land, and that ‘Arab’ equates with ‘vermin’ – straightforward old-school racism delivered with the same arrogant, shameless swagger that the good ole boys of Louisiana used to affect. That is the culture our taxes are defending. It’s like sending money to the Klan.
As for the apologists for the Israeli action in Gaza – if they don’t have an empathetic bone in their body after seeing images of total destruction of people and place, maybe this paragraph will resonate with their desire to prevent the ‘islamification of the west’, if nothing else. I can only hope they then think again about the strategy of Israel and enabling western governments.
But beyond this, what really troubles me is the bigger picture. Like it or not, in the eyes of most of the world, America represents ‘The West’. So it is The West that is seen as supporting this war, despite all our high-handed talk about morality and democracy. I fear that all the civilisational achievements of The Enlightenment and Western Culture are being discredited – to the great glee of the mad Mullahs – by this flagrant hypocrisy. The war has no moral justification that I can see – but it doesn’t even have any pragmatic value either. It doesn’t make Kissingerian ‘Realpolitik’ sense; it just makes us look bad.
The paragraph about the “right of return” Jews made me recall the South African Jewish family I worked for, for many years.
Their fairness as an employer and their hospitality towards guests (including us as employee’s) always seemed in complete contrast to the way they switched to an arrogant assumption in regard their “rights” in their “homeland”, meaning Israel, not S.A, when any tentative conversation came up about Israel and Palestine. There was a bloody mindedness present during these brief discussions that was at odds with how they presented themselves otherwise. Something kind of primal surfaced and no amount of everyday respectability could hide it.
This sense of superiority led one of the family members to go to Israel to train in the army, and to be ready for “when the time came”. I think about her and wonder whether she has gone as a reservist. I’m hoping that motherhood settled this bloodlust and made her consider the lives of children of other mothers.
There are people in the West taking a moral stand on this genocide and ‘Crime Against Humanity’…and they give us hope. One such person is a British women politician who has resigned over Prime Minister Camerons’ inaction. It is people like this politician taking a moral stand who will force change..because they expose the immorality of other politicians and newspaper editors taking no stand, or seeking to suppress the truth.
‘Baroness Warsi resigns over Gaza conflict saying she ‘can no longer support Government policy’
“I can no longer support Government policy on Gaza,” she wrote.
“In her letter to Mr Cameron, Lady Warsi said that the Government’s approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict had been “morally indefensible” and not “in Britain’s national interest”.
Another taking a stand is the Australian journalist Mike Carlton, long time journalist for The Sydney Morning Herald
You must have a bit of weed in your eyes, that’s not the interview I just watched.
He said KD had been told to respect the campaign message of vote positive up north, he said mana won’t be in his government but can support it but it’s their decision, got a good hit on kimmy by saying said kdc donated to act not labour.
I don’t have anything against IMP or their policies but imo because Kim & Hone are so despised by most voters; then this is a good political move by Labour.
Yes, very smart electioneering. Well done team red.
“because Kim & Hone are so despised by most voters”
Nailed it, but expect backlash. There’s a minor party infestation on the standard most days, yet although they’re very vocal and quite feral, they’re marginalised and fringe dwelling pussies (as in puddy cats) in reality.
God forbid marginalised people being part of the democratic process. Better to throw us under the bus. Not officially Labour policy yet though, The Alien. But yeah, we can read the writing on the wall.
Pity we aren’t mainstream People Who Matter, like your good self.
Put it in the politically charged context of “expect backlash. There’s a minor party infestation on the standard most days, yet although they’re very vocal and quite feral, they’re marginalised and fringe dwelling pussies”
“Pity we aren’t mainstream People Who Matter, like your good self”
That you have an inferiority complex isn’t my fault.
For the record, I love everyone and value them all equally as human beings without exception.
I don’t feel inferior. I’m sure you are clever enough to recognise sarcasm
But I do think the belief that being marginalised = not or less worth paying attention to is incompatible with any kind of progressive or left-wing belief system.
Hi Alien. I’m a two ticks Labour kinda girl this election and a supporter of IMP. I was hoping to see a strong and healthy Labour/Greens/IMP coalition after 20th September. By being a supporter of IMP I don’t consider myself a marginalised fringe dwelling pussy.
I’m disappointed by this announcement. If a coalition can be formed with NZ First and The Greens, instead, it will still be celebrated. The corrupt Key regime being brought to an end is reason for celebration alone (my god there will be tears of happiness!) but it’s not the coalition of choice for this voter.
For fucks sake, Phil Goff was contemplating joining ACT not so long ago, and seemed to have decided against it for reasons related to his own career. Labour’s stated policies are closer to ACT’s than Mana’s are. FFS the Labour party gave birth to the ACT – party they are freaking whanau.
This is SO hyocritical
@Just saying,
You idiot! If I had the power, I would have banned you from this site for spouting such unfair defaming crap against Mr Phil Goff and the Labour party. By all means, criticise Labour, but don’t spout untrue, unjust, utter crap.
Act also ‘revealed that it had held talks with Labour’s Phil Goff about his joining Act’ (Scott, 16 March 1996: pp.16-17).
To put it into context, this from Goff’s wikipedia page:
In the 1990 elections, Labour was defeated, and Goff lost his own parliamentary seat to Gilbert Myles. While many commentators blamed Douglas’s controversial reforms for Labour’s loss, Goff said that the main problem had been in communication, not policy
As someone on the inside in those days just saying: I can inform you ACT had talks with many politicians and former politicians from both Labour and National in the hope of attracting them to join the ACT Party. All of the approaches came from the ACT Party, and I know of at least one well known former Labour politician who was so incensed by their persistence he and his wife threatened to take action against them if they didn’t leave them alone.
In other words, Phil Goff was one of many and he turned them down flat. Not interested!
Hi Anne,
If he turned them down flat, as so many did, it would be a non-issue. He was in talks with ACT about taking over as leader. He decided against it. As it turns out it was a good choice from a career point of view.
Even considering joining an extreme right-wing party is extremely damning.
Sadly, I think if he had been talking with the Alliance or The Greens in the 90s he would have been out the door. Which is also damning. but for the party.
He had a shocker to be fair, first calling for Kelvin to be sacked then being turned around to changing it to ‘let’s forget it’.
Wilson put it that KD sort of had a right to campaign for more funding, being faced by a $3m kitty, hone whinged he had less money in past elections and that right wing bloggers had donated to it, though didn’t say if the donations were named, which of course blunts the attack.
When asked to respond to the position held by many many people that the mip is just a vehicle for kdc to avoid extradition, all he did was list the roadshow venues.
Limited appeal to limited intellect voters.
Still vote Labour and Green to change the government without relying on extremists and opportunists.
I’ve known for a while it’s not just me.
I’m sure many feel the same but don’t want to post for fear of having to deal with the vocal minority extremist clique.
Lucky I have a bit of free time at the moment and skin thicker than the average mip voter.
I’m proudly red and green and won’t easily be shouted down.
Do you think that some who didnt know whether to vote KD or HW might look at KD taking donations from right wingers as a push toward electorate vote Hone?
I don’t honestly know what to make of it all but KD is putting me more and more in mind of another fellow from up North who was kind-of labour.
Like I wrote Tracey, I’ve not seen it reported that the donations were specifically sought from the right wingers, which would be bad, or if they were anonymous donations through the website, which KD would have no knowledge of.
In my mind, KD shouldn’t have done the site as it’s a bit loose and off party line, but he’s quite correct to slam hone for his backing and backer and push the cause of the people in his electorate over hh self interest and kdc’s agenda.
I don’t believe he’s SJ mk2 like some commentators would have you believe, after all, it’s their ‘job’ to demonise him.
I generally quite like The Al1en’s contributions to ts, but the anti-KDC/Mana thing strikes me as being ott and coming from an extreme place in itself. It’s kind of funny in a way. I’m a GP voter and I remember when exactly this kind of shit was aimed at the GP and their supporters. Kia kaha Mana and the IP, keep up the good works.
Thanks, but it’s a push back reaction rather than a form of out and out aggressive extremism on my part.
To be quite honest, I’ve had enough of the negativity from mip voters here, and probably won’t bother much after today.
Loonies taking over the asylum springs to mind as far as political and policy debate is concerned and woe betide any who disagree or push saner Green/Labour points.
Kim’s got dosh, maybe he could fund his own version of the standard.
No violins mate, just a statement of fact, maybe only as I see it, but I doubt it.
Let’s face it pu, aside from your obvious anti green/labour agenda, you’re only here ’cause you’ve got nowhere else to go or no-one will have you – That and for pushing your unintelligible uninformed opinion blog.
Quantity you clearly have, quality, not so much. Not to get too personal about it, being on a politics site and all, but in economic terms, you’re a deficit to the bottom line, and who needs that? Not me.
Best you and your mip buddies carry on circle jerking your way through September, stifling debate as you go, and when you don’t get cabinet seats and control of anything post election, you can start all over again about how bad DC, MT and RN are and how bad these neo libs (or what ever the slogan of the day you pick up on is) are wrecking the country ad nauseum/infinitum.
Funniest thing, you know it’ll happen. 😉
@Al1en, agree totally with your sentiments about MIP, Hone and KDC … I liked Mana policies (pre-KDC) but their personnel are simply unelectable outside of Te Tai Tokerau.
that would be the middle NZ that’s been sitting by letting the poverty gap become a chasm, letting our rivers fill up with cow shit and letting our assets be sold off overseas? (just to mention a few of the obvious ones).
Limited intellect voters. Now that’s a sure way to win over the undecided. Just as arrogant as the arseholes we are trying to get rid of. If your an example of what an “intelligent” Labour person looks like, thanks but no thanks.
“Don’t tell me what to do fuckwit – stick to your dirty little campaign”
I’ll take the secret right wing mission bit as just a bs defam, divert put down then. I’m not surprised, given your form.
It’s hardly right wing to seek votes for a green/red ticket, but then I forget, you like your left a bit more ‘radical’. Mega lulz.
“oh and don’t forget the little violin when you go for your sympathy post.”
No tears this side of no regrets – Try again… Or don’t, whatever suits.
If Banks can get Charter schools with 1 MP miserable prick in his case
a party with more MPs can get more
the Maori Party got Whanau Ora and Prison reform and a nice BMW for its leader.
Now just explain to me again how Labour, the Greens, and IMP are going to work together sucessfully after the election – and thats before Winston puts his hand up for foreign affairs again……..
I am starting to like quite a few of Labours policies (hey they make sense) but Im not too sure about the bedfellows/bedshelias with whom they will be co-habitating.
I can understand Labour atacking the Greens and the IMP, as they need to be the biggest “Left” brand in parliament for the sake of their own brand which is being eroded by the Greens to quite a large extent. And you cant reward your own foot soldiers, when you have to accommodate your “partners”
Labour’s brand isn’t being eroded by the GP. Their constiuency is. The GP have better left wing policies and that’s why more people are voting for them.
“Now just explain to me again how Labour, the Greens, and IMP are going to work together sucessfully after the election”
Pretty simple. Labour and the GP form a coaltion that includes them both in cabinet. The IMP supports on C and S and possibly negotiates some specific policy deals. None of that is unusual.
Or are you suggesting that Labour is incapable of working in coalition with other left wing parties?
“Or are you suggesting that Labour is incapable of working in coalition with other left wing parties?”
I do wonder whether some politicians put their party ahead of the common cause (ousting the incumbents).
The Nats have taken the other approach and hoovered up the voters from their allied parties – clearly displaying that putting their party first is more important than having allied parties with similar philosophies, but different policies. I guess that way they can reward there only loyal footsoldiers better – if they win.
My recall of history is that no one group has the mortgage on good ideas and that hanging out only with people who always agree with you brings stale thinking. Think USSR, North Korea etc.
Sorry, that’s a bit obscure in terms of answering my question, and seems a bit contradictory. You seem to be suggesting that Labour should be the biggest party, can’t work well with others, but that hanging out with themselves brings stale thinking.
ACT lost votes because they were shown to be the hard right neoliberals that they are, and most conservative voters don’t want that. Plus ACT had a series of leaders that were unappealing.
The MP lost votes because they betrayed their core constituents, I doubt those voters have gone to National.
I think you will be surprised how fewer people in reality vote for National than it appears. It looks good for them via the media, but when you break down the actual numbers, it looks like the right are still in FPP thinking and don’t really get MMP. I would guess that is the real reason for National’s relatively high vote compared to Labour. But compare National to the leftwing L/GP bloc and they’re not doing all that well.
Party ahead of the common cause:
I perceive that Labour is doing this to maximise their numbers for any post election negotiations. They may end up being the biggest party in the opposition tho.
Stale one party thinking:
I was really thinking of National here and think that Labours policies are looking pretty good (high praise from a right wing type like me)
As for ACT losing votes, back in their early days they has a great weekly newsletter written by Prebble, which outlined their thinking very well. At the time, they wanted the cross benches so they could “keep the Nats honest”. But they sold out for the ministerial Limos and the perks – even Rodney fell for it – and really by then ACT was toast.
I liked what ACT was – a party that thought differently and had different solutions to the problems we faced. Sadly, they moved on from that and effectively stand for nothing anymore.
“… the mip is just a vehicle for kdc to avoid extradition …”
How would that work?
Do you think the IMP might threaten to withdraw confidence and supply support if the extradition isn’t quashed? (Notice that that eventuality is not eliminated by Labour’s/Cunliffe’s position on Mana.)
If so, perhaps Harawira and Harre (and KDC) should be asked that question directly – now.
Also, perhaps Cunliffe should be asked whether he would agree to quash the extradition in the event that such support were threatened to be withdrawn.
Asking that question of them all should clarify the extent to which KDC can use IMP as “a vehicle … to avoid extradition“.
Or perhaps they have already been asked that question?
“two of the donations were from whaleoil and farrar..”
Though it doesn’t say he solicited them from the bloggers directly, or KD knew who was donating. Obviously they outed themselves, but that proves no culpability on KD’s part.
Hence
“though didn’t say if the donations were named, which of course blunts the attack”
If the bloggers said, hi I’m a right wing blogger, accept this money, I’m sure it would have been rejected.
If it came through the website anonymously, you have no case.
Do you know how those donations came into play? Does hh? He should, because he said it unequivocally, and unless proved, shows a lack of judgement and professionalism on par with KD.
So do you know the facts about the donations from the right wing bloggers or not?
If you do, post them up, otherwise it’s totally misleading and disingenuous, like usual.
They HAVE to if they get seats because their stated aim is to get rid of the Key Government. In that sense it is a clever call by Cunliffe. IF IMP dont support on that basis, Labour might not govern and Key gets the treasury benches.
The Nats would be ruthless in the campaign painting Labour as partners to IMP. By ruling this out Labour has parked this issue and is able to concentrate on talking policy.
Cunliffe was good on tv3 this morning talking policy and refusing to let the interviewer make it all about Kelvin Davis and KDC.
Exactly – it’s a long game we’re playing and that takes time and during that time skills will be learned and lessons undertook and when the time is there IMP will assume the reins naturally and with gratitude from the other entities including the people.
Hey Phillip I agree with you that Hone did an excellent interview.
To call Cunliffe’s interview a “train wreck” is manifestly unfair-see Clem’s posting below for instance. He simply refused to further debate the IMP/Davis situation having clearly stated his position, and instead said he would talk about policy. The Davis affair needed to be shut down which is what he did.
Remember: I would prefer IMP to be in the coalition/I am a Green voter/My prediction for the election is L31+G11+I7=49=Cunliffe with NZF not in the mix. I would be delighted with this outcome and I’m sure you would too.
There was a brief news article about the National government gifting conservation land, including part of the Rakaia river bed, to the purchasers of 85% of Synlait – do we know anything more?
Allowing sales that have little or no benefit to New Zealand is one thing, but the ‘return on capital’ from gifting must be very low! Were there other benefits obtained from this ‘gift’ by parties other than government?
There was a piece about it on 3 news on Sunday night and a bit of follow up conversation on Open Mike that evening.
BLiP found info on the linz site about forest up for grabs and posted it. It was shocking. Also on the linz site was info about approval for a $55+ mil buy up of land around Huapai. The buyer was a Chinese development group on behalf of the Chinese Government. Their interests were stated as “toll roads”…………intriguing and disturbing.
It seems that conservation land that was gifted in Canterbury is just the tip of the ice berg in the great sell off of NZ.
Yes, Rosie. The tip of this iceberg makes my blood run chill … how poor will be shown to be in every single democratic measure when the usury of this Key govt is finally exposed for all its treasonous ugliness ? Brrrrrrr.
Tiger Mountains’ CAFCA link below is alarming reading.
Little America or Little China or both? Either way we have sold out, our land, our water, our right to privacy and edging towards our own two feet to stand on.
OH! FFS! Well, I wonder if Ruth Richardson and Amy Adams had a few cosy chats about the set up of the Central Plains Water scheme that Amy Adams and presumably Synlait have benefited from………..
Gold has been suggested elsewhere regarding the riverbed. And you know what else ? Not only does Oravida have swamp kauri stocked up, they also have Oravida Gold and acres of leases awarded to them by Simon Bridges.
CORRUPT, TREASONOUS, AVARICIOUS, and dangerous to our democracy. I think even we will be badly shocked when athe sum of what has been sold/given away emerges in to daylight.
Won’t let me edit, but here are some facts re Oravida Gold. And interesting to note Judith Collins husband owned the mining permits from 2011 before the land was bought by Oravida in 2013 !! Must have learned double-dipping from the dipton dancer!
ORAVIDA COMPANY SET TO MINE ON COAST
A subsidiary of Chinese milk company Oravida has reportedly been drilling land it owns at
Ross in preparation for a move into gold mining. Last year Oravida Property bought 100
ha between Donaghues and the Mikonui River from Ross farmer and former regional
councillor, Bryan Chinn. Combined with the purchase of land north of Auckland, it spent
$3.2 million. It wants to create its own milk supply chain, which dates back to interest in
the Chafer farms in 2009. The company also has a permit to mine 369 ha of land in the
Mikonui River area, granted by the Ministry of Economic Development unit 2026. That
company is owned by Deyi Shi. Mr Wong-Tung, who holds the minerals permit, told the
Hokitika Guardian last year the company would mine the land before breaking into the
Westland dairy market. “The specific intention of purchasing the land is for mining it, but
also developing it after so we can turn it into good dairying land, as well as to make that
little bit of land productive”. He said the company had a lot of red tape to sort through
before being allowed to go ahead with its mining plans.
(Greymouth Star – 20 March 2014)
I am thinking we need a million dollar fund to support Graeme McCready with all the work needing to be done ! Gold leases to a Minister’s husband ? Really, Mr Bridges ?
So what’s the collective view on the Wanaka-to-Arrowtown QEII covenant? Minister Smith has generated a massive new regional park on Great Barrier Island, and now gets to announce effectively a private national park as big as Aspiring National Park. He also lets remember killed two massive roading projects in the South Island over the last year. Is it time to give Nick Smith some credit?
Ad-its good news but important to note that QEII covenants do not allow public access.
My understanding that some limited public tracks have been granted by Mutt as part of the process to date. Effectively he has largely set up a National Park for his own use.
A better idea, which could still happen, would be that a right to roam be given to the public for the areas QEII covenanted, or at least some of them.
I notice this on the access issue from the ODT today:
“Soho Properties and the trust were working with the New Zealand Walking Access Commission, the Commissioner of Crown Lands, the Queenstown Trails Trust and local walking and mountain biking groups to further improve public access.”
The owner of Soho and Motutapu Stations is at least partially resident in NZ and has been for a few years, so its bloody disingenuous to use his covenant as an example of good foreign ownership. He’s also a keen conservationist, unlike raping and pillaging dairy farm consortiums. On the issue of Nick ‘the prick’ Smith, I think he is a genuine blue-green to an extent and probably the least offensive of all Nat ministers. He’s certainly more intelligent, informed and blue-green than Amy fricking Adams.
It is definitely a good thing. We recently passed through the south island high country and got to some remote places. The land is pretty wrecked when you get up close and look – all for a few sheep. It hasn’t made sense to lay waste to tens of thousands of hectares to only support a couple of families on a station – it is a pathetic return.
So this QEII covenant is a very good thing. But Nick Smith deserves no credit for it. It aint nowt to do with him. But he does deserve credit for canning the loony monorail and the nutty tunnel – he just has one more to go and that is the most outrageous and brainless of the lot, the Haast-Hollyford Highway. But that is being attempted by a bunch of relics from colonial NZ who have somehow survived through to the 21st century. They don’t have a chance.
But Nick Smith deserves an absolute pasting for his abuse of power in threatening Fish & Game with obliteration unless they support the National Party’s farmers polluting activities.
Word out in the conservation sector is that it is a very good thing and an incredible gesture from the ex-Shania guy; MPs from both National and Labour were at the event yesterday.
Was featured on Campbell Live last night … nothing to do with Nick Smith who couldn’t even pronounce the donor’s name correctly. Kudos chops to Mutt Lange for his generosity .. the land is now safe and protected and re-planted and loved with 12,000 plants every single month and glorious … worth a look …
agreed he has done some good things…and deserves some credit ….but eternal vigilance…lets hope the proposed Haast-Hollyford Highway is also killed…New Zealand needs its wilderness areas!
Kennedy Graham is the Green candidate for Helensville. I’d expect him to be there, too.
The NZ Herald says it’s a meeting for both Helensville and Te Tai Tokerau candidates.
And what’s to stop the Helensville candidates (without Key) having further debates in Helensville? They include high profile candidates of Harre and Graham.
I note both Laila and Hone are not doing Invercargill to be at the event
“Mr Key will be at the Kumeu Baptist Church meeting for Helensville and Te Tai Tokerau candidates on Monday night, pitting him against Internet Party leader Laila Harre and Mana leader Hone Harawira.”
“‘There is to be no debate at all. Candidates have been warned they will be thrown out if they mention other candidates or attack any other parties, or anything else like that, at all,” Ryan said.
Silence would be demanded from everyone but the speaker, with one warning before those disrupting the meeting would be removed.
”It’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.”
A spokeswoman for Key said he would take part in only one multi-candidate event in his electorate, which was ”the same as the last election campaign”.
His office had played no role in the shaping of the rules for the event, she said.”
Yes I noticed that. I think Key’s constant contradictions and linguistic meaninglessness have become so normalised that no-one even checks anymore.
Also, this story gives a more strategic view of the Nats’ apparently deliberate and recently adopted yelling-over-the-top-of-the-opponent tactic. I wondered what they were up to, it seems it’s just a background for Key to look good in front of.
I guess it doesn’t matter if every Nat looks an oaf if you’re only really asking people to vote for the PM anyway.
When I read something like this it’s not like I’m ‘checking’ – it just jumps out like a great big flashing sign spelling ‘Contradiction’ while generating a foghorn-like noise.
Why couldn’t the journalist just ‘see it’ in that way? Isn’t it one of their skills?
The dots were so close together in the story but they weren’t explicitly joined. Leaving it to the reader? Why? It could have even been the focus of the story – I thought journalists were keen on spotting that sort of contradiction in the utterances of politicos.
Reminds me of Muldoon’s campaign opening at Wiri Woolstore, oh, so many years ago. There were so many police and police cameramen, it was 100% intimidating and frightening, to the extent the half-dozen over-ripe duck eggs we wicked feminist three smuggled in, through the police door searches, by necessity went unused … we would have been beaten black and blue in that atmosphere and possibly seriously injured.
Yes, Muldoon had the police doing door searches at his campaign opening.
Alas, who could have known they were perhaps the halcyon days after all ??
Why is there any reason to say
“One of these versions of events must be wrong”?
All it is really saying is that “We plan to hold an all- candidate meeting”. “The rules we propose are”. “Will you attend?”
Key then said he would attend such meeting. There is no reason to say that he set up the rules being proposed and nothing to say that the statements must conflict.
Yes alwyn I suppose it is possible that someone other than John Key came up with the rule that no-one is allowed to mention John Key, but it doesn’t seem very bloody likely.
That’s an interesting way to resolve the apparent difference in the accounts. To be honest I didn’t give that possibility much consideration. Here’s why.
First was the context in which the two statements were reported. This is the ‘lead in’ to the first statement:
”There is to be no debate at all. Candidates have been warned they will be thrown out if they mention other candidates or attack any other parties, or anything else like that, at all,” Ryan said.
Silence would be demanded from everyone but the speaker, with one warning before those disrupting the meeting would be removed.
”It’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.”
Interestingly, Ryan says the “candidates have been warned” yet, in reference to John Key, there’s less a sense of a ‘warning’ than a process of agreement: “it’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.“.
Perhaps it was poor reporting but it didn’t sound like Key had been ‘warned’ by Holly Ryan while, obviously, other candidates had been.
I really don’t see how it’s possible to read those paragraphs and think that Ryan was simply referring to Key’s acquiescence to such strict rules (as if he had much preferred an old-fashioned, wide-ranging head to head with the other candidates but had had to ‘agree’ to be reigned in).
Second, it seems unusual that after talking about ‘the candidates’ Holly Ryan only refers to the Prime Minister in relation to the basis upon which participation was agreed.
That is, she didn’t say “We can’t possibly change the rules now because it’s on that basis that (all) the candidates agreed to be there.” Instead – inexplicably – she only referred to the agreement of the Prime Minister. Why just him if these were general rules?
Now, perhaps Holly Ryan only mentioned the Prime Minister in that comment because she saw him as the big ‘drawcard’ (as the sitting MP and, of course, the Prime Minister) and wanted to be sure to get his agreement to attend.
But that then raises the question as to why she thought those particular rules of engagement would entice John Key to attend – itself not flattering to the Prime Minister’s supposed reputation to ‘debate – and beat – all comers’ (as some here have repeatedly contended is his strength).
Or perhaps these rules were ‘anticipatory’ of gaining Key’s involvement because those were the only kinds of meetings Key had previously turned up to?
Such deference to the Prime Minister – and harsh ‘warnings’ to other candidates – also seems out of place for someone organising such an all-candidates event.
Third, possibly in naivety, I had just assumed that anyone motivated enough to host a ‘meet the candidates’ meeting during an election campaign would wish to have at least some challenge and counter-challenge of candidates’ policies – either candidate to candidate or citizen to candidate (well managed, of course).
I had thought that the only way that a ‘meet the candidates’ event would become so apparently anodyne in structure – and therefore likely to be so unrevealing of the soundness of policy positions, etc. – would be if politicians had done their best to make it so.
For me, democracy goes with debate, discussion and engagement like horses go with carriages.
But perhaps your resolution of the two versions of the event is correct. Perhaps in the more right wing suburbs and areas of New Zealand, democracy and politics are genuinely believed to be best carried out along the lines of consumer choice.
Just as products are lined up along the shelves and the individual consumer, in undisturbed silence, reads the labels and ‘experiences’ the claims and aesthetics of the packaging to determine their individual preference perhaps it’s believed that choosing between political candidates should occur under the same conditions.
Each political consumer, that is, is best left in splendid isolation with each ‘product’. In this way they can come to their own judgment without the interference of debate and interaction; without the benefit of the knowledge and candidate skills and values that might be revealed by robust discussion, argument and counter-argument.
Perhaps in such places in New Zealand some people really do think that the ‘competition of ideas’ involves no direct contest between those ideas but just a parade in front of the individual political consumer who then makes their ‘choice’ (on a very impoverished basis).
In many ways I’d much rather believe that the ‘meet the candidates’ event has been politically manipulated.
Key’s image must be preserved at all costs, that’s why he refuses to be interviewed on Radio NZ or by any serious journo.. only facing John Campbell and the GCSB committee when things were spiralling out of control. He’s happy to be feted by sports shows and non political events though.
It seems to me that Key just issues statements and is not being questioned or interviewed. The only time that he responds is when on safe ground. Now being unable or unwilling to front during an election campaign is mind boggling. And on the ground he is surrounded by minders so that he does not have to meet any New Zealanders.
Surely this displays at once arrogance and a serious Key weakness?
The joke going around is that when Key feels like he wants to get out of looking bad or is being shown up for his pants catching fire, he will signal for the fire alarm to be set off to break up the gathering.
Politicians who want to share the stage with John Key at his only multi-candidate electorate event have been warned they shouldn’t even mention his name.
The “Unidentified guest” strikes again. On the other hand, given that Key seems to be unable to answer a question in the House without throwing in some misrepresentation of some other party’s policies or reference to previous governments, might he be the first cast out?
and the news about the $55 million land sale in Huapai to Chinese buyers cannot be unknown to him … he has reason to be chicken. Finally the teflon is failing.
I just heard Murray McCully on the radio being interviewed by Suzy Ferguson on morning report. Can a member of the media please ask this question? Is the delay in the return of the Malaysian diplomat because they are having to use the Malaysian extradition process?
Suzi Ferguson also used John Key to dis the Greens policy …before Russel Norman had even opened his mouth!
(policy of a Green card enabling poor university students and other tertiary students and apprentices to access public transport for free especially in off peak times)
Russel Norman handled himself very well however and called her out …saying she had opened his interview with an “assault”…. by John Key!
… Russel Norman also coolly countered Key’s arguments that it was too expensive to spend on students by pointing out the overseas debt that John Key has accrued for New Zealand ..and the wasted money on motorways
Espiner followed up the attack on Green policy by inviting a business sector interviewee on an unrelated matter to comment on Green policy…of course it was in the negative.
Morning Report should be overhauled after the Election..it is biased and a mouthpiece of John Key!
However it does show how sensitive John Key is to the Greens and the issue of university students and affordable education….so if the Left concentrates on this it will be a WINNER !
( Nactional has neglected young New Zealanders shamelessly…In Holland , Germany, France, Scandinavia and many other countries tertiary education is relatively FREE, if not completely …In New Zealand many very bright students are deciding that they and their families can not afford it…which leaves New Zealand university education for the children of the wealthy…whose parents can afford it! eg Bill English and John Key)
…Under Nactional there is a shocking waste of young New Zealanders talent !!!!..It is going to create a class system in New Zealand….where only the children of the wealthy can afford a tertiary education… “the chosen”. This betrays the egalitarian ideals and education system of our New Zealand ancestors both Pakeha and Maori
As Kim Dotcom has shown anything can happen with an extradition hearing. Although I am sure the Malaysian Diplomat does not have the same sort of resources that Dotcom has.
Have you noticed how averse the Government has been to use the “E” word (Extradition)? They keep saying it is a legal process and it is all up to the lawyers but they don’t want the two events to be linked.
Looks like it is still above the lows of ~May 2012 pricing – just. It looks like pricing has dropped an overall 45% in 18 months. Which is basically a disaster to anyone who has geared their farm up for the higher price structure. Also, this greatly increases the likelihood of a severe recession by Q1 2015: austerity time.
10% of dairy farmers hold 50% of the estimated 40 billion dollars of bank debt said to be the loading for that industry,
The banks are talking an overall ‘loss’ for the economy of 4 billion dollars and that would have to in the next 18 months translate into a 1.3 billion dollar hole in the Governments books,
Rock Bottom economy here we come, analysts in the industry are saying that the reluctance of buyers at the recent auctions is because they ‘stockpiled’ milk solids/powders in previous years but i pick that as wishful thinking and the dairy boom is going bust befor our eyes as the point of over-supply internationally has probably been reached,
The only saving grace for the Government will be IF the figures produced by Labour in 2010/2011 which showed a large demographic of the dairy farmers were paying less tax than an average pensioner are correct which would quixotically mean that the recent downgrade of the dairy prices at auction will produce less red ink in the Government’s books…
We need to put a stop to this by making sure company directors are held personally liable. Edit: And make that law retrospective as a special treat for rogue employers who know right now they can get away with it.
Only so much that politics and law can do in the face of, “I gave him my loyalty because he was a fellow [insert favourite religion here]…”. That’s the free will of the individual and quite rightly the law should stay out of that kind of thing; least of all, if it didn’t, it’d make all of us moronic because we’d never learn anything about life or ourselves. To quote the cynical, but too often true, words of William S Burroughs, “Never trust a religious SOB. God has told him how to rip you off.” Luckily we have literature to pick up where politics shouldn’t go.
There is of course a disclaimer for that quote – don’t need to start any unearned religious hate speech malarkey here. The problem currently is the disturbing trend of religious organisations to confuse the will of their God with the popular culture of the free market. God is of course still God, somewhere out there, but religious types have deviated so grossly they end up worshipping a shadow, an evil twin if you like. Isn’t so much God told him how to rip you off, but that the person mistook God for the sentiment of individualist/commercial slogans that almost exactly match those found in the bible (when taken literally and out of context) and didn’t think twice. And then the guy might have taken advantage on purpose. Anyone can say they’re following this or that religion, and still be a malicious ass.
After someone wins a court case the person responsible shouldn’t get off paying their dues by winding up the company. Got nothing to do with religion – except possibly your own apparent Randian ideology.
Winding up a company is an old tried and tested way of getting out of financial obligations. The company transfers its assets to a new company which has no legal obligation to honour the debt. How do you think so many developers get rich and so many small building companies go to the wall? (I speak from personal experience here)
That would defeat the purposes of “limited liability” companies.
There are sufficient checks and balances within company law, many of which do allow liquidators to pursue directors personally for a bunch of indescretions, and legislation which allows criminal convictions for fraud and the like.
What we do need is for the Companies Office to be resourced in order to do the policing of “Phoenix” companies that pop up, run by family and/or friends of errant directors who may have been disqualified from acting as directors.
Just employing the former director in a “new (phoenix)” company, especially when trading from the same location, should set off massive warning lights, and the Companies Office should be resourced to take the necessary action.
That would defeat the purposes of “limited liability” companies.
Yes. Once I realised, many years ago, that people were using limited liability so as to bypass any risk while exclaiming about all the risk that they took I became fully of the opinion that limited liability needed to be shut down as well.
There are sufficient checks and balances within company law,
No there isn’t else the person in the article would be getting their awarded $83k.
What we do need is for the Companies Office to be resourced in order to do the policing of “Phoenix” companies that pop up, run by family and/or friends of errant directors who may have been disqualified from acting as directors.
Wouldn’t need such complexity if we held people responsible in the first place.
Dairy prices hit 17-month low, amid China concerns
‘….Indeed, the fresh decline tallied with a caution from Rabobank last week that producers may have to wait until 2015 for a revival in prices, with milk output much improved in major exporting nations, but Chinese buyers have stepped back, after early-year stockpiling.
“China bought more than we anticipated in the first five months of the year. It now appears they also bought far more than they needed,” the bank said.’
‘Another day, another massive overseas land sale of dubious benefit to New Zealand. Meanwhile, we’ve also learned that “our” government has been giving away parts of the conservation estate to foreigners:
3 News has discovered that Shanghai Pengxin, the controversial Chinese buyer of the massive Lochinver Station, was recently given conservation land by the Government, including parts of the Rakaia riverbed.
Join the dots.
We are becoming tenants in our own land.
Wealthy Americans, British, Chinese and other foreign corporates are buying our land from under our feet.
Just wondering: what are the current commentaries or predictions (if any) regarding a potential crisis coming up for the well-known months (Sep/Oct) of market catastrophes particularly for this year?
Any links to selected readings would be appreciated. (I known I can google but I would like to access what others here have read and screened through.)
“One look at this graph makes it obvious that we’re in totally uncharted waters: the debt to GDP ratio has never been as high as it is now. If the debt ratio has any economic significance at all, then we have to take it seriously today.”
[Graph: Debt to GDP (Australia)]
“The only historical precedents for today are the two obvious peaks in the data, in the 1890s and 1930s. The latter alone implies bad news: the 1930s were the decade of the Great Depression, which was easily the greatest economic crisis that market economies have ever experienced.”
“It is less well-known that the 1890s were also a decade of Depression for Australia, and Fisher & Kent argued in Two Depressions that the 1890s experience was more severe for Australia than the Great Depression.”
wasnt it Mr Key who first warned us about becoming tenants in our own land?
“”If we ended up in a situation where New Zealanders were tenants in their own country, I can’t see how that would be in New Zealand’s best interests,” 2010
The problem is how many tenants of foreign ownership do there have to be before Mr Key thinks the threshold has been reached?
I don’t know if those dots join but China does what it does without a thought to our sensibilities, dontchathink?
Join the dots.
We are becoming tenants in our own land.
Wealthy Americans, British, Chinese and other foreign corporates are buying our land from under our feet.
And that is why we need to ban foreign ownership of anything and everything in NZ. A total ban because there is never a time when foreign ownership is good for a country.
Rarotonga has it right .. land is for lease only, and on a fixed term .. I think it’s 30 years, but have to check.
Hard to stop the sales while folk such as Judith Collins, Ruth Richardson and Jenny Shipley all have China money-in-the-bank pass cards and are senior advisers … they have sold us out 100%. Treasonous and vile.
Possibly. The latest poll overnight suggests the undecided are firming up and supporting the Yes campaign. However, the No vote remains steady at 50% plus. Six weeks to go!
Thanks for the update on the upcoming Scottish referendum. I had this in mind to look into.
I see that the 25 – 34 age group are more likely to vote yes (56%) Let’s hope they turn out in their droves to vote!
I heard Alex Salmond say during the coverage of the Commonwealth games that if they gained independence they might consider NZer’s with family links, (including grandparents) to Scotland being a group that can gain citizenship if one was to move over there.
My Nana was from Forfar (and further back the other side are from Inverness and Beauly) so if it goes belly up after 20th September and Scotland gets her independence I might take them up them up on it!
One of the reasons I’m interested in the referendum is because my kids have a strong Scottish heritage on their mother’s side. Mind you, their grandmother roundly abused Alex Salmond when he visited her wee town a few weeks ago. She’s so firmly opposed to independence she’s going to move to England if the Yes vote gets up!
Ah, that strong determined Scots mind. Bless her 🙂
From the figures you provided, it was the older generation who seem most opposed. Let’s hope the determination of the young un’s matches that of their elders on voting day.
I know theres going to be a massive double celebration in our house if the Scots get their independence and if we win the election. The votes are only a couple of days apart. It’ll be a big weekend!
Reckon the local ACTivists are going to go all quiet about Big Brain’s not at all racist speech pretty quick. They’ll be too busy attacking their former board member and candidate for Dunners North.
Jamie Whyte is quoted in the ODT as telling the Dunedin North candidate that the party needed a “stunt” to help in the polls. Not long after comes the race speech. If true I can’t see how he survives.
10:35 Book review: When the Farm Gates Opened
When the Farm Gates Opened: The Impact of Rogernomics on rural New Zealand by Neal Wallace. Reviewed by Harry Broad, published by Otago University Press, $RRP30.00
11:20 Tax evasion and welfare fraud in the justice system
Legal commentator Lisa Marriott discusses financial crime.
I wish someone would address the lack of personal liability for property developers. With the boom in consents driven by CHCHCH rebuild and this govt forcing land open in Auckland, you just know there will be problems in the years ahead BUT Developers can open a company, buy land, develop land, contract designers and builders, sell property, take property, close company and start a new project. NO liability in the future unless they went on site during construction (which they assiduously avoid).
I agree but why limit it to just a few groups of people in business?
Lets make
Theo Spiering (Fonterra head) personally responsible for spilt milk.
John Key personally responsible for government (ha ha yeah I know)
All shareholders in power companies personally responsible for power outages
All shareholders in the Warehouse personally responsible for jandals and plastic buckets that break
…
completely remove the limited liability company and make all owners, employees and bosses personally responsible for their works
This avoidance should be shouted by Opposition parties wide and long. Key is a coward in refusing to mix it with the people in a democratic country during a democratic election.
Makes Internet Mana look good with the series (i.e. not just one) of Roadshow events they are running, where people (aka walking talking members of the public) get to ask live unvetted questions of the IMP leaders and candidates.
Kim Jong Key–does he really expect to get away with this one?
As I have suggested and am sounding out the call again:
NZ voters,
do your civic duty,
when you are out and about (bookshop, The Warehouse or public library),
grab a copy or two,
and discretely re-shelve them in the appropriate sections, eg
– Fiction
– Fantasy
– Crime.
lol. but couldn’t make out the small text on the “Top 5” sticker
“Top 5 ways to fix a wonky table leg?’
“Top 5 in David Farrar, Mathew Hooten and Hoskos audio book list?”
“Top 5 unwanted gifts?”
Lets start with the big fella, and He is, looking round the packed events center and DotCom can look down at most in the 4–500 strong crowd,
Not that He does, there is no obeisance here, no kowtowing to money, none given and i would suggest none asked for, the speech from the stage low key,(excuse the fruedian but who would suggest Slippery isn’t),
What is remarkable is His description of how the whole mad roller coaster began, Mega, really an absolute piece of socialism its genesis in a German Government grant given to DotCom after the judge had given Him a steer in that direction when as a kid one of His ‘hacking’ escapades showed He had expertise beyond His education in the field,
Annette Sykes, on the stage, fired up said of the meeting at Rotorua where the alliance between Internet and Mana was struck, DotCom didn’t just get to walk in and buy the place with His coin, She personally gave Him the third degree, it wasn’t pretty, not even anywhere near nice,
He came through some hard hours of at times open hostility on the Marae, earned the tick of approval in doing so from Annette, He has respect, such respect not given lightly,
What of Him tho, this DotCom, what i was seeking, from among the shadows, was a personal sense of the man, while i fully understand that deep down there must be ‘rage’, having been deeply involved with the whole police/justice circus over many years of an absolutely misspent youth that makes the supposed ‘crimes’ of DotCom pale into insignificance i know exactly how He feels,
Other than His size, the sheer bulk provides a certain presence, it wasn’t until the final minutes at the venue that i got a real sense of DotCom, talking with Ariana,(more on Her later), one of the local candidates, i didn’t even notice as DotCom slipped past us,
Hailed as He entered the lift with good wishes it struck me then that despite all the supposed mountains of coin, the toys, the Mansion, the publicity, DotCom the bloke is at heart Shy,
There was no grandiose departure, no entourage of the powerful, just DotCom quietly slipping into the lift responding with a smile and a wave as He is wished well for the future,
This of course, has been a message from that future, InternetMana, be there…
Cheer Pasupial, enjoy, its quite catching that flyer, on the second and third reads, it will be the center of discussion later in the week as i ‘see’ it as the basis of the candidate flyers for the local electorates here in Wellington,
Noted yesterday, Big Ups to InternetMana for the Wellington billboards, great positioning, good succinct message able to be taken in as i drive by,
And,
The color scheme is the bomb, there’s a whole nest of them where i saw this particular billboard and the ‘metallic’ color of the InternetMana one definitely drags attention straight at it…
Yep she was as weak as a double lemonade on the DHB negotiations team leader yesterday too, who claimed not to know whether he or other execs received pay increases in excess of the 0.7% offered to health care workers. She could have pressed him as it was a highly relevant point but meekly moved on.
National MP Tim Macindoe, along with radio station Free FM have been referred by the Electoral Commission to the Police over an alleged breach of the electoral act by both of them,
No never, i cannot believe that National Party MP’s would ever not adhere to the law, sarc/…
In our party’s constitution Labour’s first core principle is “All political authority comes from the people by democratic means including universal suffrage, regular and free elections with a secret ballot.”
We won’t be doing pre-election deals. It’s up to New Zealanders to decide who they send to Parliament.
After the election I’ll talk with anyone committed to changing the Government. It’s fair to say that won’t include National, Act or Colin Craig’s group.
That was in response to this question from Pasupial:
Would you be willing to accept Internet/ MANA Party MPs as part of a Labour-led government if that gave you the numbers to form a progressive coalition post-election (and a mutually satisfactory relationship could be negotiated)?
How about; a United Future & Maori Party MP(s), if they have votes to offer and were willing to negotiate support (I’m assuming a yes for both; Green Party and NZF, a no for; National, ACT & CP, please correct if I’m mistaken)?
I don’t have a problem with Labour deciding that they won’t have Mana/IP/IMP in cabinet or as Ministers. But I am disappointed to see Cunliffe going back on what he has said above. He also said something recently about it being extremely unlikely that Mana would get Ministerial positions, but that they might be part of a C and S agreement. What was wrong with continuing that line?
It’s a really bad look for Cunliffe to continually cave-in to whatever the latest middle-class focus group feels uneasy about. It just looks weak. I realise he needs to show some degree of political pragmatism, but this tried-and-failed approach is just craven.
All in Christchurch though. Shame this Government relies on that tragedy, and the excruciatingly slow rebuild to spin its growth and employment numbers.
The labour force participation rate decreased 0.3 percentage points, to 68.9 per cent.
You don’t know what that means do you?
I’ll put it simply for you – it means that 0.3% of the working age population stopped looking for work and not because they got a job but because they were sick (probably quite literally in many cases) of looking for work and not finding any. It contradicts everything else you posted except the fall in employment rate.
Listening to radionz news – three in a row, 77 year old man’s murder, body found on St Helier’s beach, another murder.
I think there should be an on-line murders and accidental deaths site where one could find out all the latest tragedies, and publish the victim statements. It is so sad to hear the repetitive nature of the grief being repeated once again, and apparently never with the effect of improving the conditions that led to the death.
It’s depressing that there isn’t reporting about dealing with ongoing problems and future ones – just a ghoulish interest in reports and stats on death and how we hurt each other.
focusing on a tragic/violent incident lets the news off the hook from reporting anything substantial about broader systemic problems. (Same as what Hone clumsily referred to when he was asked about the Malaysian diplomat assault)
An Israeli blogger citing an embedded reporter may have jiggered IDF assertions that strikes on UN buildings housing Palestinian civilian refugees were accidental.
but if it comes to that event, the first time it is published first-hand evidence that approval from headquarters and deadly accurate shooting at a school that was known that it houses hundreds of refugees – and not stray artillery fire as the IDF claims. well if anti-tank missiles were fired from the area of the school, how can you claim that the IDF fired a missile capable of an accuracy of centimeters (“able to slip through precisely buildings windows “) into the populous school is considered” collateral damage avoidance protected population “required by the laws of war and morality?
IDF official response following an investigation published Sunday, July 27th, the day after the release of Zeno’s testimony, was “anti-tank missiles were fired from the area to the troops, who responded with mortar fire.” The testimony of the reporter who was present and stated that they were not mortars but guided precision missile, contradicts the army’s response to the other contradictions and integrates the research, alternatively determined that “there was no harm to civilians in the UNRWA school … there was an empty courtyard” at the same time “in any case, the death of civilians killed by the IDF in this case is a sad result of the election of Hamas in the civilian as a human shield.”
UNRWA spokesman confirmed on several occasions that the IDF moved the location of all the schools and refugee camps, to prevent exactly this kind of killing. Zeno’s testimony, even if inadvertently given, confirming the fact that the IDF knew – and chose to ignore, not at the level of the surface may not have been updated, but the highest command level.
If you want to know why John Key will have another three years in government then just look at what Statistics NZ published today. We are on the right track.
Unemployed of 137,000 is 17,000 fewer than a year ago
Unemployment rate of 5.6% compared to 6.4% a year ago
Employed of 2,328,000 – 82,000 more than a year ago
FT employed up 71,000 and PT employed up 13,000
65,000 more in labour force than a year ago
Labour force participation rate is 68.9% compared to 68.1% a year ago
Maori unemployment rate is 11.0%, down from 12.8% a year ago
Pasifika unemployment rate is 11.4% down from 16.3% a year ago
Under 20 unemployment rate is 20.4%, down from 24.1% a year ago
Manufacturing jobs are 246,500 – up from 242,600 a year ago (recall the crisis!)
Number of hours worked is up 4.8% from a year ago (highest growth for many years)
The proportion of under 2os not in employment, study or training has fallen from 8.0% a year ago to 7.4% today
Salary and wage rates up 1.7% from a year ago
Manufacturing pay rates up 1.9% from a year ago (recall the crisis!)
Total weekly gross earnings up 6.3% from a year ago
Female average earnings as % of male up from 86.7% to 87.1% over a year
[lprent: Link to the source when you want to quote. It also means that others can start checking and discussing your sources. Don’t link, and I will start deleting the quotes. ]
Perhaps you should compare over 5 years? And even over the last year I notice that you missed out inflation rates, changes in the CPI, interest rates, and the estimates of the under-employed – ie the ever increasing numbers of involuntary part time and casual workers. What this government doesn’t appear to be able to affect is the number of people in full-time employment.
Basically this is the government trying to take credit for the world coming out of a recession/depression.
Any chance you could outline National’s policies to tackle systemic poverty in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
Nearly half of the people on the U.S. government’s widely shared database of terrorist suspects are not connected to any known terrorist group, according to classified government documents obtained by The Intercept.
Of the 680,000 people caught up in the government’s Terrorist Screening Database—a watchlist of “known or suspected terrorists” that is shared with local law enforcement agencies, private contractors, and foreign governments—more than 40 percent are described by the government as having “no recognized terrorist group affiliation.” That category—280,000 people—dwarfs the number of watchlisted people suspected of ties to al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah combined.
The documents, obtained from a source in the intelligence community, also reveal that the Obama Administration has presided over an unprecedented expansion of the terrorist screening system. Since taking office, Obama has boosted the number of people on the no fly list more than ten-fold, to an all-time high of 47,000—surpassing the number of people barred from flying under George W. Bush.
“If everything is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism,” says David Gomez, a former senior FBI special agent. The watchlisting system, he adds, is “revving out of control.”
Don’t be mean Phil. Kathryn Ryan is fair and balanced in any which way you want to swing:
economically – her broad spectrum ‘portfolio’; her work/life balance; her list of ‘go-to’s’ and rent-a-quoters’; her propensity between enilsting comment based on nepotism and ‘new blood’; her being down with the folks and being in with the in-crowd; her expertise on anything and everything from parenthood to music……She be the queen (oops Queen)
She’s God’s gift to mankind, and she’s got a raft of facebook-type friends to prove it. Some of them even pop up on MSM to prove it… from Burma Road socialists to Boombers with guilt. She’s the Queen.
Don’t be cruel. Your just jealous. She’s what RNZ is to PSB as Juan Williams is to NPR.
Why Kathryn even subscribes to The Arts Channel (now Skoi Arts)
Pass the Chardonnay will you darling – this discussion is becoming oh so very boring because Kathryn is an institution that’s become so in touch with both the people, and the movers and shakers. I fuckin adore her!
Not wanting to start a flame war but if Hammas stopped using children as human shields, stopped storing weapons in UN buildings and stopped firing rockets at Israel then there’d be no need for an Iron dome
Just saying that if Hammas stopped attacking Israel would stop attacking Hammas and if Hammas stopped hiding around civilian populations then there’d be less civilians killed but then Hammas wouldn’t be able to show the worlds media dead children…
Population
– 2014 estimate 1,816,379
– Density 5046/km2
13,069.1/sq mi
Click into the image.
Hamas are of course the governing body in the Gaza strip. They really don’t have areas that aren’t filled with civilians.
By way of comparision, the size and population density of Auckland city..
Area
• Total 637 km2 (246 sq mi)
Population (30 June 2010)[1]
• Total 450,300
• Density 710/km2 (1,800/sq mi)
Basically you appear to be fuckwit groin clutcher who is too stupid to do some pretty basic research and mostly noticeable for being a lazy parrot for the Israeli PR spinners…
Well done LP. I’ve always wanted to compare Gaza population density with an Israel apologist’s home town population density when they start to froth at the mouth about Hamas supposedly using human shields to hide munitions.
Guerilla warfare is by definition part time, and bound (by necessity) within the civilian population.
Ahhh, yeah, Lynn, but let’s not be too ambitious for Pucks, he needs to learn to walk before he can run. Frankly, I’ll be over the moon if he just manages to spell “Hamas” correctly !, given that he’s devoted so much space to dribbling meaningless inanities about the movement.
Certainly, though, it’s been interesting over recent weeks to witness our very own Tory Tr*lls mindlessly regurgitating official Israeli spin, clearly without possessing even the faintest idea….seems to be a default-position for them. Very telling.
In terms of the almost 2 Million Palestinians crammed into the Gaza Strip (most of them refugees or their descendants), your Gaza/Auckland comparison can be extended…….
Gaza’s territory in NZ terms
(1) Auckland
Gaza (north to south) is about three-quarters the (north – south) length of Auckland – essentially Papakura to Browns Bay. But Gaza’s width is only a quarter of its length – slightly wider than the North Shore (roughly Takapuna to Hobsonville).
(2) Coromandel
Gaza’s about half the length of the Coromandel peninsula and considerably less than half the width.
(3) Central NI
Gaza = same length as Lake Taupo but not much more than a third of the width.
(4) Wellington
Gaza length = Island Bay to Pukerua Bay. Gaza width = same as Wellington Harbour at its widest point
(5) Christchurch
Same length as Banks Peninsula (if measuring Peninsula east to west), but only half the width
(6) Dunedin
Gaza length = Waitati in north to a point a little south of Brighton in the south
Gaza width = Ocean Grove to Half-way Bush
“The most recent cease-fire was established after Israel’s October 2012 assault. Though Israel maintained its devastating siege, Hamas observed the cease-fire, as Israeli officials concede. Matters changed in June, when Fatah and Hamas forged a unity agreement, which established a new government of technocrats that had no Hamas participation and accepted all of the demands of the Quartet. Israel was naturally furious, even more so when even the US joined in signaling approval. The unity agreement not only undercuts Israel’s claim that it cannot negotiate with a divided Palestine, but also threatens the long term goal of dividing Gaza from the West Bank and pursuing its destructive policies in both of the regions.
Something had to be done, and an occasion arose shortly after, when the three Israeli boys were murdered in the West Bank. The Netanyahu government knew at once that they were dead, but pretended otherwise, which provided the opportunity to launch a rampage in the West Bank, targeting Hamas. Netanhayu claimed to have certain knowledge that Hamas was responsible. That too was a lie, as recognized early on. There has been no pretense of presenting evidence. One of Israel’s leading authorities on Hamas, Shlomi Eldar, reported almost at once that the killers very likely came from a dissident clan in Hebron that has long been a thorn in the side of Hamas. Eldar added that “I’m sure they didn’t get any green light from the leadership of Hamas, they just thought it was the right time to act.” The Israeli police have since been searching for two members of the clan, still claiming, without evidence, that they are “Hamas terrorists.”
The 18-day rampage however did succeed in undermining the feared unity government, and sharply increasing Israeli repression. According to Israeli military sources, Israeli soldiers arrested 419 Palestinians, including 335 affiliated with Hamas, and killed six Palestinians, also searching thousands of locations and confiscating $350,000. Israel also conducted dozens of attacks in Gaza, killing 5 Hamas members on July 7.
Hamas finally reacted with its first rockets in 19 months, Israeli officials reported, providing Israel with the pretext for Operation Protective Edge on July 8.“
Nope. If Israel stopped building settlements on top of PA land there’d be no need for an Iron Dome. If Israel stopped inviting every Jewish person on the planet to fill those settlements there’d be no need for an Iron Dome.
If those two things happened there’d be no need for the kind of destruction we’ve seen over the last two weeks.
Any chance you could outline National’s policies to tackle systemic poverty in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
What a disgraceful statement.
By the way, can you outline National’s policies to reverse our declining environment in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
If the IDF propaganda about accidental strikes on UN facilities is collapsing so when the UN facilities are used as arsenals narrative falls over will you admit your gullibility?.
Sure, unemployment down especially in Canterbury.
But 40% fall in dairy price in 6 months.
Dollar falls nearly 2 cents in 2 days: global market analysts clear that NZs dairying vulnerability far more important than employment.
The Associate Transport Minister has announced a time limit for Learners licenses. This is because a huge number of people refuse to go to the next stage.
I am one. I have been car licensed for four decades but also drive a scooter on a learners. The reason for this is the cost. Its a $500 rort. Then theres the time restrictions. …all in the name of safety. What a load of revenue raising bollocks.
Personally, I think a drivers licence should get you driving any non-commercial vehicle up to about 2 tonne. From there you’d need specialist licences to drive heavy trucks, trailers, forklifts and diggers.
Oh, and I’ve never been enthusiastic about leaner’s licences. Much better idea to require that people have the required training to get the licence in the first place.
By now, you’ve heard of the crater on the Yamal Peninsula. It’s the one that suddenly appeared, yawning nearly 200 feet in diameter, and made several rounds in the global viral media machine. The adjectives most often used to describe it: giant, mysterious, curious. Scientists were subsequently “baffled.” Locals were “mystified.” There were whispers that aliens were responsible. Nearby residents peddled theories of “bright flashes” and “celestial bodies.”
[…]
There’s now a substantiated theory about what created the crater. And the news isn’t so good.
It may be methane gas, released by the thawing of frozen ground. According to a recent Nature article, “air near the bottom of the crater contained unusually high concentrations of methane — up to 9.6% — in tests conducted at the site on 16 July, says Andrei Plekhanov, an archaeologist at the Scientific Centre of Arctic Studies in Salekhard, Russia. Plekhanov, who led an expedition to the crater, says that air normally contains just 0.000179% methane.”
The scientist said the methane release may be related to Yamal’s unusually hot summers in 2012 and 2013, which were warmer by an average of 5 degrees Celsius. “As temperatures rose, the researchers suggest, permafrost thawed and collapsed, releasing methane that had been trapped in the icy ground,” the report stated.
You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time but Key thinks he can fool all of the people all of the time.
This election is going to be a mill stone for the winner because of the TPPA and who ever has to take responsibility for selling our sovereignty will be damned as the leader ,which plays nicely for Key because it will probably swing a third term for him and if not will probably paint another PM as a liar and give them only a term which is all Key needs to complete his economic and political mission to squash any major left wing destruction of his last 2 terms ,a sacrifice, if needs be by Key to get done what he knows will happen to NZ and not be made directly responsible for it and if he gets his 3rd term he will be able to annihilate the left and any of the old NZ left values will be gone for good unless there is a real revolution brought about by the mass of losers that will be most of us
Clever Key you think ,just a scenario I dreamed up
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Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
I was initially resistant to the idea often suggested to me that the Government should deliver an arts strategy. The whole point of the arts and creativity is that people should do whatever the hell they want, unbound by the dictates of politicians in Wellington. Peter Jackson, Kiri Te Kanawa, Eleanor ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anastasia Powell, Professor, Family and Sexual Violence, RMIT University It has been a particularly distressing start to the year. There is little that can ease the current grief of individuals, families and communities who have needlessly lost a loved one to men’s ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Gregory Moore, Senior Research Associate, School of Ecosystem and Forest Sciences, The University of Melbourne Lichen, the first described example of symbiosis.AdeJ Artventure/Shutterstock Once known only to those studying biology, the word symbiosis is now widely used. Symbiosis is the intimate ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kim Hemsley, Head, Childhood Dementia Research Group, Flinders Health and Medical Research Institute, College of Medicine and Public Health, Flinders University Olena Ivanova/Shutterstock “Childhood” and “dementia” are two words we wish we didn’t have to use together. But sadly, around 1,400 ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Whiteford, Professor, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University The government’s Economic Inclusion Advisory Committee has just published its second report. It was set up by Treasurer Jim Chalmers and Minister for Social Services Amanda Rishworth in 2022 to provide: ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adrian Beaumont, Election Analyst (Psephologist) at The Conversation; and Honorary Associate, School of Mathematics and Statistics, The University of Melbourne The Queensland state election will be held in October. A YouGov poll for The Courier Mail, conducted April 9–17 from a sample ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Amin Naeni, PhD candidate at Alfred Deakin Institute for Citizenship and Globalisation, Deakin University There’s been much talk in recent months about what a possible second Donald Trump presidency in the United States could mean for Europe, Russia’s war in Ukraine, the ...
A brief round-up of submissions on the controversial proposed law. This is an excerpt from our weekly environmental newsletter Future Proof. Sign up here. Last week, submissions on the controversial Fast-track Approvals Bill closed just hours after the government released a list of stakeholder organisations who were sent letters advising how they could ...
A poem from Robin Peace’s new collection Detritus of Empire: feather / grass / rock. Cereal giving I see a woman’s hands, see her curious hands break a stalk as she walks through the tall prairie, the savannah, the steppe, wherever it was. See her idly bite the grass that ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Hemingway’s Goblet by Dermot Ross (Mary Egan Publishing, $38)A handsomely produced (debossed cover, lovely ...
The Commissioner's decision validates the longstanding efforts of the local community and ensures that Awataha Marae will be managed to serve the needs of the local community, particularly for hosting tangihanga. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tristan Salles, Associate professor, University of Sydney Examples of Australian landscapes.Unsplash Seventy thousand years ago, the sea level was much lower than today. Australia, along with New Guinea and Tasmania, formed a connected landmass known as Sahul. Around this time – ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Felicity Castagna, Lecturer, Creative Writing, Western Sydney University Day Day Market, ParramattaPhoto: Garry Trinh I live on the edge of Parramatta, Australia’s fastest-growing city, on the kind of old-fashioned suburban street that has 1950s fibros constructed in the post-war housing boom, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Ryan, Teaching Fellow in Economics, University of Waikato GettyImagesfatido/Getty Images There is an ongoing global debate over whether the high inflation seen in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic can be lowered without a recession. New Zealand is not ...
The ‘Wicked Game’ heartthrob is in his late 60s now. That didn’t stop him putting on a lively, goofy and very sparkly show. Apart from ‘Wicked Game’, which graces a sultry playlist of mine simply called 💋, my last sustained Chris Isaak listening session took place when I was about ...
Analysis - Two ministers were stripped of portfolios in a warning to Cabinet, drama broke out at the Waitangi Tribunal, and the gang patch ban bill ran into opposition. ...
Tara Ward makes an impassioned plea for some vital pop culture merch. In April 1999, I became obsessed with a new reality television show called Popstars. Every Tuesday night, five strangers transformed into music royalty before my very eyes as Joe, Keri, Carly, Erika and Megan were chosen to form ...
PNG Post-Courier In the early hours of ANZAC Day, aerial photographs captured an impressive gathering of Australians and Papua New Guineans at Isurava in the Northern (Oro) Province. The solemn dawn service yesterday was held at a site steeped in history, where some of the fiercest battles of World War ...
The PSA is shocked that Oranga Tamariki has used the cost cutting drive to downgrade its commitment to Te Ao Māori and remove many specialist Māori roles. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Kemish, Adjunct Professor, School of Historical and Philosophical Inquiry, The University of Queensland There can be no more powerful symbol of the relationship between Australia and Papua New Guinea than the prime ministers of these neighbouring countries walking together on the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sharon Robinson, Distinguished Professor and Deputy Director of ARC Securing Antarctica’s Environmental Future (SAEF), University of Wollongong, University of Wollongong Andrew Netherwood Over the last 25 years, the ozone hole which forming over Antarctica each spring has started to shrink. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Viktoria Kahui, Senior Lecturer in Environmental Economics, University of Otago Getty Images/Amy Toensing Biodiversity is declining at rates unprecedented in human history. This suggests the ways we currently use to manage our natural environment are failing. One emerging concept focuses on ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Timothy Colin Bednall, Associate Professor in Management, Swinburne University of Technology marvent/Shutterstock Finding the best person to fill a position can be tough, from drafting a job ad to producing a shortlist of top interview candidates. Employers typically consider information from ...
Wondering where to host your next BYO? Whether its a small gathering or a massive party, we’ve got some recommendations. I was first introduced to the concept of BYOs at Dunedin’s India Gardens, a legendary but sadly defunct establishment, which purveyed enormous quantities of mango chicken to Aotearoa’s drunkest future ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Julien Cooper, Honorary Lecturer, Department of History and Archaeology, Macquarie University Julien Cooper The hyper-arid desert of Eastern Sudan, the Atbai Desert, seems like an unlikely place to find evidence of ancient cattle herders. But in this dry environment, my new ...
The sector says it’s hopeful her replacement Paul Goldsmith will be able to throw it a lifeline, after six months with a minister deemed missing in action, writes Catherine McGregor in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign ...
The government can't just rely on axing public sector jobs and has to do more to cut spending, says the chief economist at a free market think tank. ...
Rock The Vote NZ, known for its advocacy for minor party unity and its role within the Freedoms NZ Coalition during the 2023 General Election, celebrates this merger as a strategic enhancement of its operational strength and outreach. ...
Nearly everyone has experienced the frustration of something you use breaking and being difficult or expensive to fix. Proposed legislation could change that. It’s been raining on and off all Sunday afternoon but people are lining up outside a building in a corner of Gribblehirst Park in Sandringham, Auckland. In ...
What does a forever relationship look like when you don’t believe in marriage? And how do you celebrate it? This essay is part of our Sunday Essay series, made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.I’m going to do it, right now. I’m going to say ...
It’s not that long ago Eliza McCartney was seriously wondering if the Paris Olympics would be her pole vaulting swansong. After years of being hounded by injury after injury, the Rio Olympics bronze medallist was still confident she would compete at her second Olympics in Paris in July, unless something ...
FICTION 1 Take Two by Danielle Hawkins (Allen & Unwin, $36.99) There’s commercial fiction, like this book, and then there’s quality fiction, quality writers, quality literature; the forthcoming Auckland Writers Festival is full of quality, and ReadingRoom has two tickets to give away to the following events: Paul Lynch (Dublin ...
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You can’t have missed the Gallipoli story as the movies, documentaries, essays and books capture what it was like for New Zealand troops in their eight-month campaign on the Peninsula. But this Anzac Day the Auckland War Memorial Museum has published a book that sheds light on a little-known aspect of the ...
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Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra In the free-for-all between the Australian government and Big Tech boss Elon Musk this week, the government had to be on a winner. Most people would have little sympathy with Musk’s vociferous opposition to ...
Asia Pacific Report Chief Mandla Mandela, a member of the National Assembly of South Africa and Nelson Mandela’s grandson, has joined the Freedom Flotilla in istanbul as the ships prepare to sail for Gaza, reports Kia Ora Gaza. Mandela is also the ambassador for the Global Campaign to Return to ...
Pacific Media Watch Journalists who report on environmental issues are encountering growing difficulties in many parts of the world, reports Reporters Without Borders. According to the tally kept by RSF, 200 journalists have been subjected to threats and physical violence, including murder, in the past 10 years because they were ...
Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards, Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)Political scientist, Dr Bryce Edwards. Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has surprised everyone with his ruthlessness in sacking two of his ministers from their crucial portfolios. Removing ministers for poor performance after only five months in the job just doesn’t normally happen in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Hawkins, Senior Lecturer, Canberra School of Politics, Economics and Society, University of Canberra BagzhanSadvakassov/Upsplash, CC BY-SA Australia’s inflation rate has fallen for the fifth successive quarter, and it’s now less than half of what it was back in late 2022. ...
ACT's Rural Communities and Veterans spokesman Mark Cameron responds to cancellations and protests of ANZAC Day commemorations in Wellington. He says, "These pitiful attempts to detract from ANZAC Day are not at all indicative of the feelings of mainstream ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Meighen McCrae, Associate Professor of Strategic & Defence Studies, Australian National University American and Australian stretcher bearers working together near the front line during the Battle of Hamel in 1918.Australian War Memorial While the AUKUS alliance is new, the Australian-American partnership ...
Pōneke based peace activists staged a silent protest at the ANZAC day service to highlight New Zealand’s complicity in war and genocide, and urge the government to take concrete steps to stop the genocide in Palestine. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Magdalena M.E. Bunbury, Postdoctoral Researcher, James Cook University Burial with a horse at the Rákóczifalva site, Hungary (8th century AD).Sándor Hegedűs, Hungarian National Museum, CC BY How do we understand past societies? For centuries, our main sources of information have been ...
Amanda Thompson doesn’t really do Anzac Day. But what she does do is remember the people she knew who had a lifetime to remember stuff they didn’t really want to, because of a war they didn’t ask for. And she does make Anzac biscuits.First published in 2021.All my ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kathryn Willis, Postdoctoral Researcher, CSIRO Xavier Boulenger/Shutterstock In the two decades to 2019, global plastic production doubled. By 2040, plastic manufacturing and processing could consume as much as 20% of global oil production and use up 15% of the annual carbon ...
With our collective remembrance, and steadfast belief in our common humanity, we strengthen our hope and resolve to do what we can to foster dialogue and understanding, and to heal divisions in our pursuit of peace. ...
Principal reasons for the opposition is the loss of the public’s democratic right to have “a fair say” and the vital need for a government free from corruption, said Casey Cravens of Dunedin, president of the New Zealand Federation of Freshwater ...
Never mind the scoreboard – in the 2000 Bledisloe Cup decider, the real trans-Tasman battle was won before kickoff.First published in 2016. The dawn of the new millennium was a dark time for the All Blacks. Their final game pre-Y2K was a 22-18 loss to South Africa in the ...
I’m on the wrong side of 40, I never pursued creative work and now my job is killing my soul. Help! Want Hera’s help? Email your problem to helpme@thespinoff.co.nzDear Hera,May I start with the least original conversation opener you’re likely to hear around the motu at the moment, particularly in Wellington: ...
“Never again - No AUKUS” was the message of the wreath laid at this morning’s national ANZAC Day commemorative service at Pukeahu National War Memorial Park this morning by the Stop AUKUS group. ...
Until this month, Auckland swimmer Hazel Ouwehand had never met a qualifying time in an Olympic event for a New Zealand team, even as a junior. Now she’s very likely off to the Paris Olympics after swimming well under the qualifying standard in the 100m butterfly twice – both in ...
While Anzac Day has experienced a resurgence in recent years, our other day of remembrance has slowly faded from view.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand. Original illustrations by Hope McConnell.First published in 2022.The high school’s head girl and ...
Australian and New Zealand volunteers fought together in the Waikato War, yet still its place in the Anzac tradition is unacknowledged by our defence forces or Returned Services Association.First published in 2018.When I was a boy cub I attended Anzac Day services in the South Auckland suburb of ...
A poem by Wellington writer Tayi Tibble.Hoki Mai She kisses him goodbye with her eyes still wet and alight from their last swim in the Awatere river. At the train station celebration, she leads the Kapa Haka but her voice keeps breaking under and over itself like waves. ...
Hope Theo Speirings is having a little pause for thought about his strategy of following China’s great sucking engine to bulk and lower-end value products as our national basis for pastoral wealth.
It’s not very often I’d link to a Daily Mail article, but these pics of Gaza tell a story that show this devastation by the Israelis will echo for years in the Middle East – even if Israeli does meet its objective of clearing Gaza.
Thank you miravox. Those pictures illustrate what daily life must be like for Palestinians during this genocide.
The scale of horror and the depth of grief is hard enough for the world to comprehend and digest let alone imagine being Palestinian.
Everyone has probably seen this as it’s been floating around the net for days but I’ve only just heard this letter being read out on the 9am radio news in place of the usual news. The description of the treatment of Palestinians, adults and children by the settlers was particularly sobering:
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/today-i-saw-a-weeping-palestinian-man-holding-a-plastic-bag-of-meat-it-was-his-son#.U-FHuuOSzeB
I just cannot reconcile the psychology of a “race” who suffered from genocide permitting themselves the position of genocidal maniacs.
It’s a puzzling phenomenon Ennui.
The psychology of such a position must surely be studied and debated by those working in the field.
Psychology has it’s origins in some very talented Jewish people, the pioneers of the study of the mind in the late 19th century. Alfred Adler in particular stood out and took the concepts of Freud, refined them and whose theories contributed toward the evolution of psychotherapy.
The Adlerian approach looks at the individual in a holistic sense and considers social equality as a factor in their well being. I have been wondering lately what students and practitioners of the Adlerian movement (and other humanistic branches of psychology) would make of a culture giving life to their ancestral and collective rage, grief and oppression and turning an another culture, as undeserving of such cruelty as they were in the first place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Adler
“I just cannot reconcile the psychology of a “race” who suffered from genocide permitting themselves the position of genocidal maniacs”
Need to separate-out (1) European Holocaust victims and (2) Zionists in Palestine. Their identity and interests are too often conflated.
I think the first thing to understand is that the Zionism on which Israel was established emerged from precisely the same deeply reactionary, anti-Enlightenment ideological mix (German/East European Romantic Nationalism and Imperialism) that so greatly inspired and animated the Nazis. ‘Blut und Bone’. Violent Ethnic-cleansing has always been implicit in that sort of extreme ethno-nationalist ideology where the emphasis is on membership of the prescribed ‘Race’ / ‘Blood’ / ‘Culture’ over universalist ideas of Equality and Citizenship. The aim was always to militarily carve-out an ethnically-pure (or failing that, overwhelmingly Jewish) ‘Greater Israel’ on Palestinian land (before Zionist colonisation got fully underway in the early 20C, Palestinian Arabs had comprised well over 90% of the population for more than 1300 years, with the tiny, indigenous Jewish community making up less than 5%. What’s more, that small indigenous Jewish community was overwhelmingly anti-Zionist and most of their descendants remain so. Important, I think, to remember that whenever you hear the line that this is some sort of ancient Arab-Jewish conflict that has gone on in Palestine for centuries. The kind of tosh that regularly emanates from the “pro”-Israel lobby).
It was, of course, a reaction to (at times, pretty vicious) anti-Semitism in Europe, the Baltic States and Russia, but the thing is Zionists completely accepted and internalised the deeply conservative ethno-nationalism underpinning that anti-Semitism, taking it as a prescription for a future Zionist state. If you look at early Zionist views of the Jewish community in Europe you’ll find they were remarkably similar to the vicious racial stereotypes of the more extreme 19C anti-semites (which were, of course, later adopted by the Nazis). The middle-class German Jews at the heart of the early Zionist movement entirely accepted all of those anti-Jewish stereotypes and argued that the way to change these alleged traits was to do for the Jews what the anti-Semitic ultra-conservative German Nationalists wanted to do for Germany – create an ethnically-homogenous homeland where they could create their conception of a new, self-respecting Jewish-Settler, plough in one hand, gun in the other, using force to carve-out this new ethnically-pure Eretz Israel.
On top of that, it pays to remember that the Israeli Right were openly fascist during the first half of the 20C. Jabotinsky’s Revisionist movement (from which Sharon and Netanyahu’s Likud Party emerged) greatly admired Mussolini and their Irgun and Stern gang terrorist groups of course included two future Israeli PMs. In the end, though, as far as attitudes to the colonisation of Palestine are concerned, they were little different in their ethos to Ben-Gurion’s Israeli Labour Party (and its precursors) and the mainstream Haganah (forebear of the IDF).
Second thing is: the Yishuv (pre-Israeli State Zionist community in Palestine) and its leaders like Ben-Gurion had a very dodgy relationship with the Holocaust. A good deal of collaboration took place with both the Nazis and other anti-Semitic leaders and groups in Europe / the Baltic nations in order to encourage Jewish emigration to Palestine (including an ultimately successful Zionist campaign to end an American Jewish-organised economic boycott of Nazi Germany). Strenuous efforts to prevent European Jews escaping Germany/Mainland Europe to Britain and the US (for the Yishuv leaders it had to be Palestine or nothing). The bullying of Holocaust survivors in immediate post-war Displaced Persons Camps (the US allowed Zionist groups from Palestine to take over many of these camps, and Holocaust survivors – the vast majority of whom wanted to go to the US – were largely forced through coercion (including outright violence) to emigrate to Palestine instead).
And when Holocaust survivors arrived in Israel, they were treated abominably by a sizeable portion of Israeli society, particularly by State officials (albeit with honourable exceptions). All of which is best encapsulated by the derisive Yishuv slang name for Holocaust survivors “soap” (based on the now-discredited idea that Holocaust victims’ bodies had been turned into soap by the Nazis). The survivors were deemed shameful by Zionists because they and the 6 Million victims were considered to have gone like lambs to the slaughter – whereas Zionism was all about celebrating the self-respecting, gun-toting, take-no-prisoners Zionist Jew. Many survivors were forced – again against their will – to fight in the 1948 War. Many, having survived the Holocaust against all the odds (and still greatly traumatised) went on to die in that War for an Israeli nation that largely despised them.
The Holocaust, of course, only became important to Israel after its leaders decided it could be of political use to close down criticism of Israeli policies (largely after Adolf Eichmann’s trial in 1962). It’s been said that to this day a disproportionate number of Holocaust survivors and their descendants live below the poverty line in Israel (some 50,000 by one recent estimate). Meanwhile, Israeli banks continue to refuse to return money to the families of Holocaust victims who had deposited significant sums in Zionist banks in pre-Israel Palestine. It’s an on-going scandal. So much for Israel’s solemn Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Thank you Swordfish. That’s a very helpful historical background and goes quite some way to providing an explanation for current behaviours. It’s also an education. (for myself at least)
Thanks so much for that swordship. Hugely helpful to my understanding of the reality of Israel and Palestine.
I was (note WAS) one of those who for years fell for the Israeli Government line that they were the oppressed ones. Indeed I even considered the Palestinians to be mad and dangerous. I hang my head in shame. My own experiences in England 40 odd years ago (I lived for a couple of years with Jewish people married to relatives of mine) suggest there were many good Jewish people of English origin who were equally taken in.
Israel will get its come-uppance one day. It may happen in a different way to Natzi Germany but the world is finally waking up to them. I no longer turn a hair when we are confronted on the Telly with the death of Israeli soldiers etc. Good riddance!
“I just cannot reconcile the psychology of a “race” who suffered from genocide permitting themselves the position of genocidal maniacs”
Richard Dawkins also has an answer…patriarchal monotheism…otherwise known as Religious Fundamentalism. In 2006 Richard Dawkins wrote in ‘The God Delusion’:
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant
character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust,
unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a
misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal,
pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent
bully.”
Love it. 😀
Sorry swordFISH. I called you swordship.
I hadn’t seen Brian Eno’s letter before, so thanks for posting Rosie. Agree with Ennui about incomprehension of people who suffered the Holocaust causing wiping out Gaza. Beyond the psychological context – maybe this para from Eno explains some of social/cultural context (which also ties in with swordfish’s explanation).
As for the apologists for the Israeli action in Gaza – if they don’t have an empathetic bone in their body after seeing images of total destruction of people and place, maybe this paragraph will resonate with their desire to prevent the ‘islamification of the west’, if nothing else. I can only hope they then think again about the strategy of Israel and enabling western governments.
The paragraph about the “right of return” Jews made me recall the South African Jewish family I worked for, for many years.
Their fairness as an employer and their hospitality towards guests (including us as employee’s) always seemed in complete contrast to the way they switched to an arrogant assumption in regard their “rights” in their “homeland”, meaning Israel, not S.A, when any tentative conversation came up about Israel and Palestine. There was a bloody mindedness present during these brief discussions that was at odds with how they presented themselves otherwise. Something kind of primal surfaced and no amount of everyday respectability could hide it.
This sense of superiority led one of the family members to go to Israel to train in the army, and to be ready for “when the time came”. I think about her and wonder whether she has gone as a reservist. I’m hoping that motherhood settled this bloodlust and made her consider the lives of children of other mothers.
There are people in the West taking a moral stand on this genocide and ‘Crime Against Humanity’…and they give us hope. One such person is a British women politician who has resigned over Prime Minister Camerons’ inaction. It is people like this politician taking a moral stand who will force change..because they expose the immorality of other politicians and newspaper editors taking no stand, or seeking to suppress the truth.
‘Baroness Warsi resigns over Gaza conflict saying she ‘can no longer support Government policy’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/baroness-warsi-resigns-over-gaza-conflict-saying-she-can-no-longer-support-government-policy-9648529.html
“I can no longer support Government policy on Gaza,” she wrote.
“In her letter to Mr Cameron, Lady Warsi said that the Government’s approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict had been “morally indefensible” and not “in Britain’s national interest”.
Another taking a stand is the Australian journalist Mike Carlton, long time journalist for The Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/aug/06/sydney-morning-heralds-mike-carlton-resigns-over-gaza-column-reaction
cunnliffe just had a trainwreck interview on tv3..
..refusing to even talk about dotcom etc..(!)..
..he was playing some sorta ‘hard-man’-role..
..it was entirely unbelievable..
You must have a bit of weed in your eyes, that’s not the interview I just watched.
He said KD had been told to respect the campaign message of vote positive up north, he said mana won’t be in his government but can support it but it’s their decision, got a good hit on kimmy by saying said kdc donated to act not labour.
Will check your pro hone spin and bias in a bit.
The 6pm one news story:
The Internet Mana Party won’t be a part of any coalition with Labour.
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/dotcom-won-t-part-labour-coalition-6047467
I don’t have anything against IMP or their policies but imo because Kim & Hone are so despised by most voters; then this is a good political move by Labour.
“this is a good political move by Labour.”
Yes, very smart electioneering. Well done team red.
“because Kim & Hone are so despised by most voters”
Nailed it, but expect backlash. There’s a minor party infestation on the standard most days, yet although they’re very vocal and quite feral, they’re marginalised and fringe dwelling pussies (as in puddy cats) in reality.
..they’re marginalised and fringe dwelling…
God forbid marginalised people being part of the democratic process. Better to throw us under the bus. Not officially Labour policy yet though, The Alien. But yeah, we can read the writing on the wall.
Pity we aren’t mainstream People Who Matter, like your good self.
Put it in the politically charged context of “expect backlash. There’s a minor party infestation on the standard most days, yet although they’re very vocal and quite feral, they’re marginalised and fringe dwelling pussies”
“Pity we aren’t mainstream People Who Matter, like your good self”
That you have an inferiority complex isn’t my fault.
For the record, I love everyone and value them all equally as human beings without exception.
I don’t feel inferior. I’m sure you are clever enough to recognise sarcasm
But I do think the belief that being marginalised = not or less worth paying attention to is incompatible with any kind of progressive or left-wing belief system.
spot on js.
…”they’re very vocal and quite feral”….i am a feral Chooky
Hi Alien. I’m a two ticks Labour kinda girl this election and a supporter of IMP. I was hoping to see a strong and healthy Labour/Greens/IMP coalition after 20th September. By being a supporter of IMP I don’t consider myself a marginalised fringe dwelling pussy.
I’m disappointed by this announcement. If a coalition can be formed with NZ First and The Greens, instead, it will still be celebrated. The corrupt Key regime being brought to an end is reason for celebration alone (my god there will be tears of happiness!) but it’s not the coalition of choice for this voter.
No, you’re alright.
Lol, pleased to be reassured in regard to my potential fringe freak nature or limited voter intellect status……………….
I think we should have a big collective hug and get on with the job of ousting Key.
Like DC, I won’t hug kimmy.
Kimmy gives very good parties…Kimmy could help the Left win the Election
+100 Rosie
Most of all the feral comments I’ve seen are coming from you. That comment is a good example.
Look harder, maybe with the other eye open at the same time.
Yeah, you just proved my point.
“The Internet Mana Party won’t be a part of any coalition with Labour.”
The headline currently reads:
“Dotcom won’t be part of Labour coalition”
Stupidest headline of the election campaign? Thanks TVNZ.
Can people on ts please not buy into the bullshit that the IMP or even the IP = KDC?
KDC is not a candidate and will in no way be part of the next government.
+1
For fucks sake, Phil Goff was contemplating joining ACT not so long ago, and seemed to have decided against it for reasons related to his own career. Labour’s stated policies are closer to ACT’s than Mana’s are. FFS the Labour party gave birth to the ACT – party they are freaking whanau.
This is SO hyocritical
@Just saying,
You idiot! If I had the power, I would have banned you from this site for spouting such unfair defaming crap against Mr Phil Goff and the Labour party. By all means, criticise Labour, but don’t spout untrue, unjust, utter crap.
From Liberation:
http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2009/02/act-party-history-16-recruitment-of-party-hopping-mps.html
Act also ‘revealed that it had held talks with Labour’s Phil Goff about his joining Act’ (Scott, 16 March 1996: pp.16-17).
To put it into context, this from Goff’s wikipedia page:
In the 1990 elections, Labour was defeated, and Goff lost his own parliamentary seat to Gilbert Myles. While many commentators blamed Douglas’s controversial reforms for Labour’s loss, Goff said that the main problem had been in communication, not policy
As someone on the inside in those days just saying: I can inform you ACT had talks with many politicians and former politicians from both Labour and National in the hope of attracting them to join the ACT Party. All of the approaches came from the ACT Party, and I know of at least one well known former Labour politician who was so incensed by their persistence he and his wife threatened to take action against them if they didn’t leave them alone.
In other words, Phil Goff was one of many and he turned them down flat. Not interested!
Hi Anne,
If he turned them down flat, as so many did, it would be a non-issue. He was in talks with ACT about taking over as leader. He decided against it. As it turns out it was a good choice from a career point of view.
Even considering joining an extreme right-wing party is extremely damning.
Sadly, I think if he had been talking with the Alliance or The Greens in the 90s he would have been out the door. Which is also damning. but for the party.
followed by harawira who gave good-interview..
(both interviews will be on the tv3 website..)
He had a shocker to be fair, first calling for Kelvin to be sacked then being turned around to changing it to ‘let’s forget it’.
Wilson put it that KD sort of had a right to campaign for more funding, being faced by a $3m kitty, hone whinged he had less money in past elections and that right wing bloggers had donated to it, though didn’t say if the donations were named, which of course blunts the attack.
When asked to respond to the position held by many many people that the mip is just a vehicle for kdc to avoid extradition, all he did was list the roadshow venues.
Limited appeal to limited intellect voters.
Still vote Labour and Green to change the government without relying on extremists and opportunists.
Totally with you here Al1en
I’ve known for a while it’s not just me.
I’m sure many feel the same but don’t want to post for fear of having to deal with the vocal minority extremist clique.
Lucky I have a bit of free time at the moment and skin thicker than the average mip voter.
I’m proudly red and green and won’t easily be shouted down.
Do you think that some who didnt know whether to vote KD or HW might look at KD taking donations from right wingers as a push toward electorate vote Hone?
I don’t honestly know what to make of it all but KD is putting me more and more in mind of another fellow from up North who was kind-of labour.
Like I wrote Tracey, I’ve not seen it reported that the donations were specifically sought from the right wingers, which would be bad, or if they were anonymous donations through the website, which KD would have no knowledge of.
In my mind, KD shouldn’t have done the site as it’s a bit loose and off party line, but he’s quite correct to slam hone for his backing and backer and push the cause of the people in his electorate over hh self interest and kdc’s agenda.
I don’t believe he’s SJ mk2 like some commentators would have you believe, after all, it’s their ‘job’ to demonise him.
So, people who disagree with you are extremists?
Just if they’re riffraff 😀
I generally quite like The Al1en’s contributions to ts, but the anti-KDC/Mana thing strikes me as being ott and coming from an extreme place in itself. It’s kind of funny in a way. I’m a GP voter and I remember when exactly this kind of shit was aimed at the GP and their supporters. Kia kaha Mana and the IP, keep up the good works.
Thanks, but it’s a push back reaction rather than a form of out and out aggressive extremism on my part.
To be quite honest, I’ve had enough of the negativity from mip voters here, and probably won’t bother much after today.
Loonies taking over the asylum springs to mind as far as political and policy debate is concerned and woe betide any who disagree or push saner Green/Labour points.
Kim’s got dosh, maybe he could fund his own version of the standard.
cue violins…reach for tissues…
Cue fu*kwit, reach for a brick.
No violins mate, just a statement of fact, maybe only as I see it, but I doubt it.
Let’s face it pu, aside from your obvious anti green/labour agenda, you’re only here ’cause you’ve got nowhere else to go or no-one will have you – That and for pushing your unintelligible uninformed opinion blog.
Quantity you clearly have, quality, not so much. Not to get too personal about it, being on a politics site and all, but in economic terms, you’re a deficit to the bottom line, and who needs that? Not me.
Best you and your mip buddies carry on circle jerking your way through September, stifling debate as you go, and when you don’t get cabinet seats and control of anything post election, you can start all over again about how bad DC, MT and RN are and how bad these neo libs (or what ever the slogan of the day you pick up on is) are wrecking the country ad nauseum/infinitum.
Funniest thing, you know it’ll happen. 😉
recent example of my anti-green agenda..from open mike yesterday..
..on their green-card promise..
“..that is a clever policy from the greens..”
(cutting..!..eh..?..)
and is he promising to exit stage-right..?..plse say it is so..!..
..such a loose-unit..and such a whiner with it..
“such a loose-unit..and such a whiner with it.”
Ta ta nugget, enjoy your daisy chain circle jerk.
But funniest thing is, you know it’ll happen. 😉
“Watch the sky” she said.
…dont go The Allen…we need you
@Al1en, agree totally with your sentiments about MIP, Hone and KDC … I liked Mana policies (pre-KDC) but their personnel are simply unelectable outside of Te Tai Tokerau.
A toxic brand with zero appeal to middle NZ.
that would be the middle NZ that’s been sitting by letting the poverty gap become a chasm, letting our rivers fill up with cow shit and letting our assets be sold off overseas? (just to mention a few of the obvious ones).
stoopid left wing radical will never change anything
You really think that no changes happen from the edges? Methinks you haven’t been paying attention.
@ weka…i totally agree with you
Limited intellect voters. Now that’s a sure way to win over the undecided. Just as arrogant as the arseholes we are trying to get rid of. If your an example of what an “intelligent” Labour person looks like, thanks but no thanks.
“Now that’s a sure way to win over the undecided”
Perhaps only the smarter ones.
“If your an example”
You made my point for me. Thanks for playing.
I wouldn’t vote IMP, but you labelling others as thick is priceless.
I will vote IMP and I too find the labelling priceless from allen – he’s on a secret mission from the right so never mind.
Secret mission 😆
Yeah good point you stuffed that up too lol
Secret mission, from who? Name names or gtfo and stfu.
Having chips on both shoulders doesn’t necessarily make you balanced mars 😉 😆
Don’t tell me what to do fuckwit – stick to your dirty little campaign – oh and don’t forget the little violin when you go for your sympathy post.
“Don’t tell me what to do fuckwit – stick to your dirty little campaign”
I’ll take the secret right wing mission bit as just a bs defam, divert put down then. I’m not surprised, given your form.
It’s hardly right wing to seek votes for a green/red ticket, but then I forget, you like your left a bit more ‘radical’. Mega lulz.
“oh and don’t forget the little violin when you go for your sympathy post.”
No tears this side of no regrets – Try again… Or don’t, whatever suits.
grow up t 🙄
Yeah, you’re out of stones and all your glass house windows are gone.
Give up bro.
see, not so hard to be nice is it rather than your usual spit-style of posting – keep it up and your shit reputation may even improve 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
edit oh you changed your post back to the usual – oh dear, what a pity, never mind
plus ‘bro’ is just not your style tryhard lol
“see, not so hard to be nice is it rather than your usual spit-style of posting – keep it up and your shit reputation may even improve”
Spin spin sugar.
“edit oh you changed your post back to the usual – oh dear, what a pity, never mind
plus ‘bro’ is just not your style tryhard lol”
Like a record baby, right round, round round. 😆
Priceless is about right for me – hh, about three million.
how did the job interview go?
@ tom jackson..+1..
..there is that curious mix of arrogance and ignorance..
..and yep..!..as thick as a sack full of doorknobs..
If Banks can get Charter schools with 1 MP miserable prick in his case
a party with more MPs can get more
the Maori Party got Whanau Ora and Prison reform and a nice BMW for its leader.
”Limited intellect voters” nice from the resident elitist areshole,
Tell us all Alien, if these voters you ascribe ”limited intellect” to voted Green would you suddenly ascribe to them ”intelligence”…
A lot more than they originally had. Better late than never.
“elitist areshole,”
I’m not elitist.
Now just explain to me again how Labour, the Greens, and IMP are going to work together sucessfully after the election – and thats before Winston puts his hand up for foreign affairs again……..
I am starting to like quite a few of Labours policies (hey they make sense) but Im not too sure about the bedfellows/bedshelias with whom they will be co-habitating.
I can understand Labour atacking the Greens and the IMP, as they need to be the biggest “Left” brand in parliament for the sake of their own brand which is being eroded by the Greens to quite a large extent. And you cant reward your own foot soldiers, when you have to accommodate your “partners”
Labour’s brand isn’t being eroded by the GP. Their constiuency is. The GP have better left wing policies and that’s why more people are voting for them.
“Now just explain to me again how Labour, the Greens, and IMP are going to work together sucessfully after the election”
Pretty simple. Labour and the GP form a coaltion that includes them both in cabinet. The IMP supports on C and S and possibly negotiates some specific policy deals. None of that is unusual.
Or are you suggesting that Labour is incapable of working in coalition with other left wing parties?
“Or are you suggesting that Labour is incapable of working in coalition with other left wing parties?”
I do wonder whether some politicians put their party ahead of the common cause (ousting the incumbents).
The Nats have taken the other approach and hoovered up the voters from their allied parties – clearly displaying that putting their party first is more important than having allied parties with similar philosophies, but different policies. I guess that way they can reward there only loyal footsoldiers better – if they win.
My recall of history is that no one group has the mortgage on good ideas and that hanging out only with people who always agree with you brings stale thinking. Think USSR, North Korea etc.
Sorry, that’s a bit obscure in terms of answering my question, and seems a bit contradictory. You seem to be suggesting that Labour should be the biggest party, can’t work well with others, but that hanging out with themselves brings stale thinking.
ACT lost votes because they were shown to be the hard right neoliberals that they are, and most conservative voters don’t want that. Plus ACT had a series of leaders that were unappealing.
The MP lost votes because they betrayed their core constituents, I doubt those voters have gone to National.
I think you will be surprised how fewer people in reality vote for National than it appears. It looks good for them via the media, but when you break down the actual numbers, it looks like the right are still in FPP thinking and don’t really get MMP. I would guess that is the real reason for National’s relatively high vote compared to Labour. But compare National to the leftwing L/GP bloc and they’re not doing all that well.
Sorry, I didnt explain myself so well.
Party ahead of the common cause:
I perceive that Labour is doing this to maximise their numbers for any post election negotiations. They may end up being the biggest party in the opposition tho.
Stale one party thinking:
I was really thinking of National here and think that Labours policies are looking pretty good (high praise from a right wing type like me)
As for ACT losing votes, back in their early days they has a great weekly newsletter written by Prebble, which outlined their thinking very well. At the time, they wanted the cross benches so they could “keep the Nats honest”. But they sold out for the ministerial Limos and the perks – even Rodney fell for it – and really by then ACT was toast.
I liked what ACT was – a party that thought differently and had different solutions to the problems we faced. Sadly, they moved on from that and effectively stand for nothing anymore.
weka +100
T Allen
So you admit to being an arsehole?
Ba dum tish.
Hi A11en,
“… the mip is just a vehicle for kdc to avoid extradition …”
How would that work?
Do you think the IMP might threaten to withdraw confidence and supply support if the extradition isn’t quashed? (Notice that that eventuality is not eliminated by Labour’s/Cunliffe’s position on Mana.)
If so, perhaps Harawira and Harre (and KDC) should be asked that question directly – now.
Also, perhaps Cunliffe should be asked whether he would agree to quash the extradition in the event that such support were threatened to be withdrawn.
Asking that question of them all should clarify the extent to which KDC can use IMP as “a vehicle … to avoid extradition“.
Or perhaps they have already been asked that question?
factcheck:..
“..and that right wing bloggers had donated to it, though didn’t say if the donations were named, which of course blunts the attack..”
two of the donations were from whaleoil and farrar..
..and in the pitch for the site..a ‘plus’ was cited that ‘national party members wd contribute’..
..to this cause of taking out harawira..
factfu*k more like.
“two of the donations were from whaleoil and farrar..”
Though it doesn’t say he solicited them from the bloggers directly, or KD knew who was donating. Obviously they outed themselves, but that proves no culpability on KD’s part.
Hence
“though didn’t say if the donations were named, which of course blunts the attack”
If the bloggers said, hi I’m a right wing blogger, accept this money, I’m sure it would have been rejected.
If it came through the website anonymously, you have no case.
Do you know how those donations came into play? Does hh? He should, because he said it unequivocally, and unless proved, shows a lack of judgement and professionalism on par with KD.
the allen shd not mistake a factcheck of his bullshit..for an opening of dialogue..
…i wd rather bash my cock against a nail-studded stump…
So do you know the facts about the donations from the right wing bloggers or not?
If you do, post them up, otherwise it’s totally misleading and disingenuous, like usual.
Like said, factfu*k more like.
True Phil – classical dirty trick that has backfired – why did the gnatbloggers donate? Weakest link that’s why and Kelvin and the team know it.
It may just be that they did not give any $$ to the cause, because just saying they did can do as much harm as actually sending the money.
And its a bit cheaper too
no..davis has said he has the money from farrar/slater…
phillip-you are back in that negative phase again; attacking Cunliffe because he is not doing what you want him to do.
Cunliffe has to distance himself from Hone to win the election. Get used to it.
IMO Hone is wonderful. He gave an excellent interview on Morning Report this am and every time he is on I am sure IMP’s vote goes up.
IMP will back Labour on confidence and supply-that is certain. Cunliffe will probably make Laila and Hone chairpeople of some important committees.
They HAVE to if they get seats because their stated aim is to get rid of the Key Government. In that sense it is a clever call by Cunliffe. IF IMP dont support on that basis, Labour might not govern and Key gets the treasury benches.
Exactly Tracey.
The Nats would be ruthless in the campaign painting Labour as partners to IMP. By ruling this out Labour has parked this issue and is able to concentrate on talking policy.
Cunliffe was good on tv3 this morning talking policy and refusing to let the interviewer make it all about Kelvin Davis and KDC.
@ b.g..
..i am somewhat tiring of this bullshit…
..if cunnliffe gives a good interview..i will say he has done a good interview..
..if he sucks..i’ll also say that..
..this is what i do..i do political-commentary..
..and as for yr claim re cunnliffe ‘not doing what i want’..is why i criticise him when i feel it is due..
..i am actually fucken agnostic about int/mana joining labour in a formal coalition..
..(this is what i said is this forum..yesterday..on that topic..)
“..i have no problems with int/mana not being in cabinet/bound by cabinet muzzling-rules..
..for one thing..labour support a tpp..
..int/mana want to rip it up…
..and a weak/do nothing lab/nz first coalition..will just weaken labour further..
..and a potent int/mana on the cross-benches..free to argue etc..
..is fine with me..
..i wd just like there to be a lot of them..
..and then..in 2017…a lot more..”
..are you clear on that now..?
..these bullshit claims i have some ‘secret-agenda’..
..i don’t think i cd b more upfront about what my fucken ‘agenda’ is..
..eh..?
“..i wd just like there to be a lot of them..
..and then..in 2017…a lot more..””
Exactly – it’s a long game we’re playing and that takes time and during that time skills will be learned and lessons undertook and when the time is there IMP will assume the reins naturally and with gratitude from the other entities including the people.
Hey Phillip I agree with you that Hone did an excellent interview.
To call Cunliffe’s interview a “train wreck” is manifestly unfair-see Clem’s posting below for instance. He simply refused to further debate the IMP/Davis situation having clearly stated his position, and instead said he would talk about policy. The Davis affair needed to be shut down which is what he did.
Remember: I would prefer IMP to be in the coalition/I am a Green voter/My prediction for the election is L31+G11+I7=49=Cunliffe with NZF not in the mix. I would be delighted with this outcome and I’m sure you would too.
+100 Bearded Git @ 3.2.2
No, not at all. I found both the interviews of Cunliffe and Harawira were EXCELLENT.
And I agree with what both of them said. Very good points.
Here is the interview for those who missed it:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Harawira-calls-on-Davis-to-apologise-over-smear-website/tabid/370/articleID/355650/Default.aspx
+1 Clem. See my discussion with Phillip above.
There was a brief news article about the National government gifting conservation land, including part of the Rakaia river bed, to the purchasers of 85% of Synlait – do we know anything more?
Allowing sales that have little or no benefit to New Zealand is one thing, but the ‘return on capital’ from gifting must be very low! Were there other benefits obtained from this ‘gift’ by parties other than government?
There was a piece about it on 3 news on Sunday night and a bit of follow up conversation on Open Mike that evening.
BLiP found info on the linz site about forest up for grabs and posted it. It was shocking. Also on the linz site was info about approval for a $55+ mil buy up of land around Huapai. The buyer was a Chinese development group on behalf of the Chinese Government. Their interests were stated as “toll roads”…………intriguing and disturbing.
It seems that conservation land that was gifted in Canterbury is just the tip of the ice berg in the great sell off of NZ.
Yes, Rosie. The tip of this iceberg makes my blood run chill … how poor will be shown to be in every single democratic measure when the usury of this Key govt is finally exposed for all its treasonous ugliness ? Brrrrrrr.
Tiger Mountains’ CAFCA link below is alarming reading.
Little America or Little China or both? Either way we have sold out, our land, our water, our right to privacy and edging towards our own two feet to stand on.
Ruth Richardson is a director of Synlait. Go figure.
Govt gave Shanghai Pengxin conservation land – Story – Politics – 3 News
http://www.3news.co.nz/Govt-gave-Shanghai-Pengxin-conservation-land/tabid/1607/articleID/355268/Default.aspx
Board of Directors – Synlait
http://www.synlait.com/about/key-people/board-of-directors/
OH! FFS! Well, I wonder if Ruth Richardson and Amy Adams had a few cosy chats about the set up of the Central Plains Water scheme that Amy Adams and presumably Synlait have benefited from………..
http://rebuildingchristchurch.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/special-investigation-adams-family-values/
Probably not gifting that conservation land, more likely a lease.
Gold has been suggested elsewhere regarding the riverbed. And you know what else ? Not only does Oravida have swamp kauri stocked up, they also have Oravida Gold and acres of leases awarded to them by Simon Bridges.
CORRUPT, TREASONOUS, AVARICIOUS, and dangerous to our democracy. I think even we will be badly shocked when athe sum of what has been sold/given away emerges in to daylight.
Won’t let me edit, but here are some facts re Oravida Gold. And interesting to note Judith Collins husband owned the mining permits from 2011 before the land was bought by Oravida in 2013 !! Must have learned double-dipping from the dipton dancer!
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbbus/266137544-oravida-expanding-into-gold-mining-
and
ORAVIDA COMPANY SET TO MINE ON COAST
A subsidiary of Chinese milk company Oravida has reportedly been drilling land it owns at
Ross in preparation for a move into gold mining. Last year Oravida Property bought 100
ha between Donaghues and the Mikonui River from Ross farmer and former regional
councillor, Bryan Chinn. Combined with the purchase of land north of Auckland, it spent
$3.2 million. It wants to create its own milk supply chain, which dates back to interest in
the Chafer farms in 2009. The company also has a permit to mine 369 ha of land in the
Mikonui River area, granted by the Ministry of Economic Development unit 2026. That
company is owned by Deyi Shi. Mr Wong-Tung, who holds the minerals permit, told the
Hokitika Guardian last year the company would mine the land before breaking into the
Westland dairy market. “The specific intention of purchasing the land is for mining it, but
also developing it after so we can turn it into good dairying land, as well as to make that
little bit of land productive”. He said the company had a lot of red tape to sort through
before being allowed to go ahead with its mining plans.
(Greymouth Star – 20 March 2014)
Week-ending-28.03.14 – Coast Valuations
http://www.coastval.co.nz/dmsdocument/20
I am thinking we need a million dollar fund to support Graeme McCready with all the work needing to be done ! Gold leases to a Minister’s husband ? Really, Mr Bridges ?
So what’s the collective view on the Wanaka-to-Arrowtown QEII covenant? Minister Smith has generated a massive new regional park on Great Barrier Island, and now gets to announce effectively a private national park as big as Aspiring National Park. He also lets remember killed two massive roading projects in the South Island over the last year. Is it time to give Nick Smith some credit?
wtf is a”private national park” ?
Ad-its good news but important to note that QEII covenants do not allow public access.
My understanding that some limited public tracks have been granted by Mutt as part of the process to date. Effectively he has largely set up a National Park for his own use.
A better idea, which could still happen, would be that a right to roam be given to the public for the areas QEII covenanted, or at least some of them.
I notice this on the access issue from the ODT today:
“Soho Properties and the trust were working with the New Zealand Walking Access Commission, the Commissioner of Crown Lands, the Queenstown Trails Trust and local walking and mountain biking groups to further improve public access.”
Maybe reasonable access will eventuate after all.
The owner of Soho and Motutapu Stations is at least partially resident in NZ and has been for a few years, so its bloody disingenuous to use his covenant as an example of good foreign ownership. He’s also a keen conservationist, unlike raping and pillaging dairy farm consortiums. On the issue of Nick ‘the prick’ Smith, I think he is a genuine blue-green to an extent and probably the least offensive of all Nat ministers. He’s certainly more intelligent, informed and blue-green than Amy fricking Adams.
It is definitely a good thing. We recently passed through the south island high country and got to some remote places. The land is pretty wrecked when you get up close and look – all for a few sheep. It hasn’t made sense to lay waste to tens of thousands of hectares to only support a couple of families on a station – it is a pathetic return.
So this QEII covenant is a very good thing. But Nick Smith deserves no credit for it. It aint nowt to do with him. But he does deserve credit for canning the loony monorail and the nutty tunnel – he just has one more to go and that is the most outrageous and brainless of the lot, the Haast-Hollyford Highway. But that is being attempted by a bunch of relics from colonial NZ who have somehow survived through to the 21st century. They don’t have a chance.
But Nick Smith deserves an absolute pasting for his abuse of power in threatening Fish & Game with obliteration unless they support the National Party’s farmers polluting activities.
No vto, Smith doesn’t deserve credit for canning the tunnel and monorail-they were both no-brainers.
However, it may be true that he leaned on DOC to support (or at least not oppose) the monorail, in their submission for which he deserves opprobrium.
His true colours came out at the Fish and Game meeting.
Word out in the conservation sector is that it is a very good thing and an incredible gesture from the ex-Shania guy; MPs from both National and Labour were at the event yesterday.
Was featured on Campbell Live last night … nothing to do with Nick Smith who couldn’t even pronounce the donor’s name correctly. Kudos chops to Mutt Lange for his generosity .. the land is now safe and protected and re-planted and loved with 12,000 plants every single month and glorious … worth a look …
http://www.3news.co.nz/Should-foreigners-be-allowed-to-buy-New-Zealand-land/tabid/817/articleID/355583/Default.aspx
Yeah, bit of a PR gift for struggling Nick Smith
agreed he has done some good things…and deserves some credit ….but eternal vigilance…lets hope the proposed Haast-Hollyford Highway is also killed…New Zealand needs its wilderness areas!
it’s double diddums for control freak Key and his script writers;
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10352978/Strict-rules-for-Key-electorate-event
What a travesty of democracy.
How is this permissible?
Kennedy Graham is the Green candidate for Helensville. I’d expect him to be there, too.
The NZ Herald says it’s a meeting for both Helensville and Te Tai Tokerau candidates.
And what’s to stop the Helensville candidates (without Key) having further debates in Helensville? They include high profile candidates of Harre and Graham.
I note both Laila and Hone are not doing Invercargill to be at the event
“Mr Key will be at the Kumeu Baptist Church meeting for Helensville and Te Tai Tokerau candidates on Monday night, pitting him against Internet Party leader Laila Harre and Mana leader Hone Harawira.”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11304498
From the link:
“‘There is to be no debate at all. Candidates have been warned they will be thrown out if they mention other candidates or attack any other parties, or anything else like that, at all,” Ryan said.
Silence would be demanded from everyone but the speaker, with one warning before those disrupting the meeting would be removed.
”It’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.”
A spokeswoman for Key said he would take part in only one multi-candidate event in his electorate, which was ”the same as the last election campaign”.
His office had played no role in the shaping of the rules for the event, she said.”
One of these versions of events must be wrong.
Yes I noticed that. I think Key’s constant contradictions and linguistic meaninglessness have become so normalised that no-one even checks anymore.
Also, this story gives a more strategic view of the Nats’ apparently deliberate and recently adopted yelling-over-the-top-of-the-opponent tactic. I wondered what they were up to, it seems it’s just a background for Key to look good in front of.
I guess it doesn’t matter if every Nat looks an oaf if you’re only really asking people to vote for the PM anyway.
“…no-one even checks anymore.”
When I read something like this it’s not like I’m ‘checking’ – it just jumps out like a great big flashing sign spelling ‘Contradiction’ while generating a foghorn-like noise.
Why couldn’t the journalist just ‘see it’ in that way? Isn’t it one of their skills?
The dots were so close together in the story but they weren’t explicitly joined. Leaving it to the reader? Why? It could have even been the focus of the story – I thought journalists were keen on spotting that sort of contradiction in the utterances of politicos.
Yes “checks” wasn’t really the right word, I mean I don’t think anyone is taking notice.
I think people are just printing whatever gibberish he says and they don’t even expect it to make sense.
So the Prime Minister will spend more of his time talking to Whaleoil than voters in his own electorate? Unbelievable?
Get the toilet window exit ready.
Reminds me of Muldoon’s campaign opening at Wiri Woolstore, oh, so many years ago. There were so many police and police cameramen, it was 100% intimidating and frightening, to the extent the half-dozen over-ripe duck eggs we wicked feminist three smuggled in, through the police door searches, by necessity went unused … we would have been beaten black and blue in that atmosphere and possibly seriously injured.
Yes, Muldoon had the police doing door searches at his campaign opening.
Alas, who could have known they were perhaps the halcyon days after all ??
Why is there any reason to say
“One of these versions of events must be wrong”?
All it is really saying is that “We plan to hold an all- candidate meeting”. “The rules we propose are”. “Will you attend?”
Key then said he would attend such meeting. There is no reason to say that he set up the rules being proposed and nothing to say that the statements must conflict.
“There is no reason to say that he set up the rules”
well – nothing but all the other times the nats have set things up to favour themselves and insulate key from having to actually think
You have some evidence for this claim I presume?
Or is it just a proposal from your fevered imagination.
Yes alwyn I suppose it is possible that someone other than John Key came up with the rule that no-one is allowed to mention John Key, but it doesn’t seem very bloody likely.
Hi alwyn,
That’s an interesting way to resolve the apparent difference in the accounts. To be honest I didn’t give that possibility much consideration. Here’s why.
First was the context in which the two statements were reported. This is the ‘lead in’ to the first statement:
”There is to be no debate at all. Candidates have been warned they will be thrown out if they mention other candidates or attack any other parties, or anything else like that, at all,” Ryan said.
Silence would be demanded from everyone but the speaker, with one warning before those disrupting the meeting would be removed.
”It’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.”
Interestingly, Ryan says the “candidates have been warned” yet, in reference to John Key, there’s less a sense of a ‘warning’ than a process of agreement: “it’s on that basis that the prime minister agreed to be there.“.
Perhaps it was poor reporting but it didn’t sound like Key had been ‘warned’ by Holly Ryan while, obviously, other candidates had been.
I really don’t see how it’s possible to read those paragraphs and think that Ryan was simply referring to Key’s acquiescence to such strict rules (as if he had much preferred an old-fashioned, wide-ranging head to head with the other candidates but had had to ‘agree’ to be reigned in).
Second, it seems unusual that after talking about ‘the candidates’ Holly Ryan only refers to the Prime Minister in relation to the basis upon which participation was agreed.
That is, she didn’t say “We can’t possibly change the rules now because it’s on that basis that (all) the candidates agreed to be there.” Instead – inexplicably – she only referred to the agreement of the Prime Minister. Why just him if these were general rules?
Now, perhaps Holly Ryan only mentioned the Prime Minister in that comment because she saw him as the big ‘drawcard’ (as the sitting MP and, of course, the Prime Minister) and wanted to be sure to get his agreement to attend.
But that then raises the question as to why she thought those particular rules of engagement would entice John Key to attend – itself not flattering to the Prime Minister’s supposed reputation to ‘debate – and beat – all comers’ (as some here have repeatedly contended is his strength).
Or perhaps these rules were ‘anticipatory’ of gaining Key’s involvement because those were the only kinds of meetings Key had previously turned up to?
Such deference to the Prime Minister – and harsh ‘warnings’ to other candidates – also seems out of place for someone organising such an all-candidates event.
Third, possibly in naivety, I had just assumed that anyone motivated enough to host a ‘meet the candidates’ meeting during an election campaign would wish to have at least some challenge and counter-challenge of candidates’ policies – either candidate to candidate or citizen to candidate (well managed, of course).
I had thought that the only way that a ‘meet the candidates’ event would become so apparently anodyne in structure – and therefore likely to be so unrevealing of the soundness of policy positions, etc. – would be if politicians had done their best to make it so.
For me, democracy goes with debate, discussion and engagement like horses go with carriages.
But perhaps your resolution of the two versions of the event is correct. Perhaps in the more right wing suburbs and areas of New Zealand, democracy and politics are genuinely believed to be best carried out along the lines of consumer choice.
Just as products are lined up along the shelves and the individual consumer, in undisturbed silence, reads the labels and ‘experiences’ the claims and aesthetics of the packaging to determine their individual preference perhaps it’s believed that choosing between political candidates should occur under the same conditions.
Each political consumer, that is, is best left in splendid isolation with each ‘product’. In this way they can come to their own judgment without the interference of debate and interaction; without the benefit of the knowledge and candidate skills and values that might be revealed by robust discussion, argument and counter-argument.
Perhaps in such places in New Zealand some people really do think that the ‘competition of ideas’ involves no direct contest between those ideas but just a parade in front of the individual political consumer who then makes their ‘choice’ (on a very impoverished basis).
In many ways I’d much rather believe that the ‘meet the candidates’ event has been politically manipulated.
That would be less disturbing.
Key’s image must be preserved at all costs, that’s why he refuses to be interviewed on Radio NZ or by any serious journo.. only facing John Campbell and the GCSB committee when things were spiralling out of control. He’s happy to be feted by sports shows and non political events though.
Clearly, Dear Leader is beyond question.
Unbelievable!
There’s going to be fireworks there – can’t see Penny Bright putting up with that.
a form of silent-protest cd be tape over the mouth..
..and this control-freak exercise has now become the story…
Agree phillip,
this ‘mufflefest’ would be a good focus for a Change the Government Rally of several hundred people on the night too.
The “freedom of speech as long as you don’t say too much” angle shows the fuss over tory fan presenter Hosko’s conflict of interest was not misguided.
It is about the Nats desire for complete control (apol to The Clash) as evidenced by Steven Joyces behaviour on the weekend.
it is amusing how over the past week or so..
..national have not put a foot right…
It seems to me that Key just issues statements and is not being questioned or interviewed. The only time that he responds is when on safe ground. Now being unable or unwilling to front during an election campaign is mind boggling. And on the ground he is surrounded by minders so that he does not have to meet any New Zealanders.
Surely this displays at once arrogance and a serious Key weakness?
The joke going around is that when Key feels like he wants to get out of looking bad or is being shown up for his pants catching fire, he will signal for the fire alarm to be set off to break up the gathering.
as he will be standing naked..
..will we have to avert our eyes…?
and of course a potent counter to demands for ‘silence’..
..is group-hissing…
..hard to tell who is..and who isn’t…
😀 Phillip, nice one !
The “Unidentified guest” strikes again. On the other hand, given that Key seems to be unable to answer a question in the House without throwing in some misrepresentation of some other party’s policies or reference to previous governments, might he be the first cast out?
I read that this morning, and if true, wow. Just wow.
Key is chicken
Key is chicken
Key is chicken
bok bok
how pathetic for a grown man and prime minister. what a loser.
and the news about the $55 million land sale in Huapai to Chinese buyers cannot be unknown to him … he has reason to be chicken. Finally the teflon is failing.
I just heard Murray McCully on the radio being interviewed by Suzy Ferguson on morning report. Can a member of the media please ask this question? Is the delay in the return of the Malaysian diplomat because they are having to use the Malaysian extradition process?
Susie Ferguson failed to ask any challenging questions.
Suzi Ferguson also used John Key to dis the Greens policy …before Russel Norman had even opened his mouth!
(policy of a Green card enabling poor university students and other tertiary students and apprentices to access public transport for free especially in off peak times)
Russel Norman handled himself very well however and called her out …saying she had opened his interview with an “assault”…. by John Key!
… Russel Norman also coolly countered Key’s arguments that it was too expensive to spend on students by pointing out the overseas debt that John Key has accrued for New Zealand ..and the wasted money on motorways
Espiner followed up the attack on Green policy by inviting a business sector interviewee on an unrelated matter to comment on Green policy…of course it was in the negative.
Morning Report should be overhauled after the Election..it is biased and a mouthpiece of John Key!
However it does show how sensitive John Key is to the Greens and the issue of university students and affordable education….so if the Left concentrates on this it will be a WINNER !
( Nactional has neglected young New Zealanders shamelessly…In Holland , Germany, France, Scandinavia and many other countries tertiary education is relatively FREE, if not completely …In New Zealand many very bright students are deciding that they and their families can not afford it…which leaves New Zealand university education for the children of the wealthy…whose parents can afford it! eg Bill English and John Key)
…Under Nactional there is a shocking waste of young New Zealanders talent !!!!..It is going to create a class system in New Zealand….where only the children of the wealthy can afford a tertiary education… “the chosen”. This betrays the egalitarian ideals and education system of our New Zealand ancestors both Pakeha and Maori
When was the last time Key was actually interviewed as aggressively as say Norman or Cunliffe? Or even when was the last time Key was interviewed?
There was that Rugby magazine…
pretend play and camping it up in an All Black’s jersey?
That Hard Talk interview in the UK?
I think Kim Hill also asked him some tricky questions.
Otherwise, it’s just cosy chats with Rawden, Mike , Marcus and the rest of the ghastly corporate media.
He is coming back though, isn’t he? I thought I saw a headline about him returning in the paper this morning?
As Kim Dotcom has shown anything can happen with an extradition hearing. Although I am sure the Malaysian Diplomat does not have the same sort of resources that Dotcom has.
Have you noticed how averse the Government has been to use the “E” word (Extradition)? They keep saying it is a legal process and it is all up to the lawyers but they don’t want the two events to be linked.
This mornings GDT auction dropped another 8.4%. Our dairy industry has officially collapsed.
Looks like it is still above the lows of ~May 2012 pricing – just. It looks like pricing has dropped an overall 45% in 18 months. Which is basically a disaster to anyone who has geared their farm up for the higher price structure. Also, this greatly increases the likelihood of a severe recession by Q1 2015: austerity time.
is that drop not since february..?
10% of dairy farmers hold 50% of the estimated 40 billion dollars of bank debt said to be the loading for that industry,
The banks are talking an overall ‘loss’ for the economy of 4 billion dollars and that would have to in the next 18 months translate into a 1.3 billion dollar hole in the Governments books,
Rock Bottom economy here we come, analysts in the industry are saying that the reluctance of buyers at the recent auctions is because they ‘stockpiled’ milk solids/powders in previous years but i pick that as wishful thinking and the dairy boom is going bust befor our eyes as the point of over-supply internationally has probably been reached,
The only saving grace for the Government will be IF the figures produced by Labour in 2010/2011 which showed a large demographic of the dairy farmers were paying less tax than an average pensioner are correct which would quixotically mean that the recent downgrade of the dairy prices at auction will produce less red ink in the Government’s books…
We need to put a stop to this by making sure company directors are held personally liable. Edit: And make that law retrospective as a special treat for rogue employers who know right now they can get away with it.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/10351787/Slave-unlikely-to-get-paid
Only so much that politics and law can do in the face of, “I gave him my loyalty because he was a fellow [insert favourite religion here]…”. That’s the free will of the individual and quite rightly the law should stay out of that kind of thing; least of all, if it didn’t, it’d make all of us moronic because we’d never learn anything about life or ourselves. To quote the cynical, but too often true, words of William S Burroughs, “Never trust a religious SOB. God has told him how to rip you off.” Luckily we have literature to pick up where politics shouldn’t go.
There is of course a disclaimer for that quote – don’t need to start any unearned religious hate speech malarkey here. The problem currently is the disturbing trend of religious organisations to confuse the will of their God with the popular culture of the free market. God is of course still God, somewhere out there, but religious types have deviated so grossly they end up worshipping a shadow, an evil twin if you like. Isn’t so much God told him how to rip you off, but that the person mistook God for the sentiment of individualist/commercial slogans that almost exactly match those found in the bible (when taken literally and out of context) and didn’t think twice. And then the guy might have taken advantage on purpose. Anyone can say they’re following this or that religion, and still be a malicious ass.
After someone wins a court case the person responsible shouldn’t get off paying their dues by winding up the company. Got nothing to do with religion – except possibly your own apparent Randian ideology.
Winding up a company is an old tried and tested way of getting out of financial obligations. The company transfers its assets to a new company which has no legal obligation to honour the debt. How do you think so many developers get rich and so many small building companies go to the wall? (I speak from personal experience here)
Yep and we need to stop people from being able to do it. All liabilities of a company must accrue to the owners and directors.
That would defeat the purposes of “limited liability” companies.
There are sufficient checks and balances within company law, many of which do allow liquidators to pursue directors personally for a bunch of indescretions, and legislation which allows criminal convictions for fraud and the like.
What we do need is for the Companies Office to be resourced in order to do the policing of “Phoenix” companies that pop up, run by family and/or friends of errant directors who may have been disqualified from acting as directors.
Just employing the former director in a “new (phoenix)” company, especially when trading from the same location, should set off massive warning lights, and the Companies Office should be resourced to take the necessary action.
Yes. Once I realised, many years ago, that people were using limited liability so as to bypass any risk while exclaiming about all the risk that they took I became fully of the opinion that limited liability needed to be shut down as well.
No there isn’t else the person in the article would be getting their awarded $83k.
Wouldn’t need such complexity if we held people responsible in the first place.
Mainzeal and Jenny Shipley, for example.
Are these two news stories connected?
Dairy prices hit 17-month low, amid China concerns
‘….Indeed, the fresh decline tallied with a caution from Rabobank last week that producers may have to wait until 2015 for a revival in prices, with milk output much improved in major exporting nations, but Chinese buyers have stepped back, after early-year stockpiling.
“China bought more than we anticipated in the first five months of the year. It now appears they also bought far more than they needed,” the bank said.’
http://www.agrimoney.com/news/dairy-prices-hit-17-month-low-amid-china-concerns–7223.html
Giving away New Zealand
‘Another day, another massive overseas land sale of dubious benefit to New Zealand. Meanwhile, we’ve also learned that “our” government has been giving away parts of the conservation estate to foreigners:
3 News has discovered that Shanghai Pengxin, the controversial Chinese buyer of the massive Lochinver Station, was recently given conservation land by the Government, including parts of the Rakaia riverbed.
http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2014/08/giving-away-new-zealand.html
Join the dots.
We are becoming tenants in our own land.
Wealthy Americans, British, Chinese and other foreign corporates are buying our land from under our feet.
Join the dots.
I’m joing the dots with the call for an early election. NAct is hoping to have it over and done with before a perfect economic storm hits.
Just wondering: what are the current commentaries or predictions (if any) regarding a potential crisis coming up for the well-known months (Sep/Oct) of market catastrophes particularly for this year?
Any links to selected readings would be appreciated. (I known I can google but I would like to access what others here have read and screened through.)
All I know is that debt/gdp ratios worldwide are now at worse levels than before the 2008 GFC.
Your comment reminds me of this:
“One look at this graph makes it obvious that we’re in totally uncharted waters: the debt to GDP ratio has never been as high as it is now. If the debt ratio has any economic significance at all, then we have to take it seriously today.”
[Graph: Debt to GDP (Australia)]
“The only historical precedents for today are the two obvious peaks in the data, in the 1890s and 1930s. The latter alone implies bad news: the 1930s were the decade of the Great Depression, which was easily the greatest economic crisis that market economies have ever experienced.”
“It is less well-known that the 1890s were also a decade of Depression for Australia, and Fisher & Kent argued in Two Depressions that the 1890s experience was more severe for Australia than the Great Depression.”
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=6528&page=1
That was from Steve Keen, 22 October 2007
dear CAFCA–Campaign Against Foreign Control of Aotearoa is still going many decades on and here are some useful facts they have put together w/sources included;
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1401/S00011/who-owns-nz-foreign-control-key-facts-updated.htm
+100…they do great work….have always admired Murray Horton ..he was a brilliant student from the working class
wasnt it Mr Key who first warned us about becoming tenants in our own land?
“”If we ended up in a situation where New Zealanders were tenants in their own country, I can’t see how that would be in New Zealand’s best interests,” 2010
The problem is how many tenants of foreign ownership do there have to be before Mr Key thinks the threshold has been reached?
I don’t know if those dots join but China does what it does without a thought to our sensibilities, dontchathink?
And that is why we need to ban foreign ownership of anything and everything in NZ. A total ban because there is never a time when foreign ownership is good for a country.
Rarotonga has it right .. land is for lease only, and on a fixed term .. I think it’s 30 years, but have to check.
Hard to stop the sales while folk such as Judith Collins, Ruth Richardson and Jenny Shipley all have China money-in-the-bank pass cards and are senior advisers … they have sold us out 100%. Treasonous and vile.
+100 DTB and yeshe
The Scottish referendum debate (Salmond/Darling) is streaming on http://player.stv.tv/live/. They’re halfway through, an hour to go.
I wonder if the nationalism stirred by the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow will have impacted people’s voting choices at all?
Possibly. The latest poll overnight suggests the undecided are firming up and supporting the Yes campaign. However, the No vote remains steady at 50% plus. Six weeks to go!
http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/news/285203-support-for-yes-rises-in-stv-poll-ahead-of-salmond-darling-debate/
Overview of polling here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014
Thanks for the update on the upcoming Scottish referendum. I had this in mind to look into.
I see that the 25 – 34 age group are more likely to vote yes (56%) Let’s hope they turn out in their droves to vote!
I heard Alex Salmond say during the coverage of the Commonwealth games that if they gained independence they might consider NZer’s with family links, (including grandparents) to Scotland being a group that can gain citizenship if one was to move over there.
My Nana was from Forfar (and further back the other side are from Inverness and Beauly) so if it goes belly up after 20th September and Scotland gets her independence I might take them up them up on it!
One of the reasons I’m interested in the referendum is because my kids have a strong Scottish heritage on their mother’s side. Mind you, their grandmother roundly abused Alex Salmond when he visited her wee town a few weeks ago. She’s so firmly opposed to independence she’s going to move to England if the Yes vote gets up!
Ah, that strong determined Scots mind. Bless her 🙂
From the figures you provided, it was the older generation who seem most opposed. Let’s hope the determination of the young un’s matches that of their elders on voting day.
I know theres going to be a massive double celebration in our house if the Scots get their independence and if we win the election. The votes are only a couple of days apart. It’ll be a big weekend!
http://www.critic.co.nz/news/article/4230/act-candidate-for-dunedin-north-resigns
Reckon the local ACTivists are going to go all quiet about Big Brain’s not at all racist speech pretty quick. They’ll be too busy attacking their former board member and candidate for Dunners North.
Well, the last guy got fewer votes than Pete George, so he’s probably not changing his chances of winning the seat.
Jamie Whyte is quoted in the ODT as telling the Dunedin North candidate that the party needed a “stunt” to help in the polls. Not long after comes the race speech. If true I can’t see how he survives.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11304781
the act candidate’s resignation and why …
shake shonkey !!!
Two interesting things this morning on Radionz.
10:35 Book review: When the Farm Gates Opened
When the Farm Gates Opened: The Impact of Rogernomics on rural New Zealand by Neal Wallace. Reviewed by Harry Broad, published by Otago University Press, $RRP30.00
11:20 Tax evasion and welfare fraud in the justice system
Legal commentator Lisa Marriott discusses financial crime.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon
I wish someone would address the lack of personal liability for property developers. With the boom in consents driven by CHCHCH rebuild and this govt forcing land open in Auckland, you just know there will be problems in the years ahead BUT Developers can open a company, buy land, develop land, contract designers and builders, sell property, take property, close company and start a new project. NO liability in the future unless they went on site during construction (which they assiduously avoid).
I agree but why limit it to just a few groups of people in business?
Lets make
Theo Spiering (Fonterra head) personally responsible for spilt milk.
John Key personally responsible for government (ha ha yeah I know)
All shareholders in power companies personally responsible for power outages
All shareholders in the Warehouse personally responsible for jandals and plastic buckets that break
…
completely remove the limited liability company and make all owners, employees and bosses personally responsible for their works
good luck on that one tracey
They often send their contract builders to the wall by not making the last progress payment or two as well
Good point
John Key refusing to allow debate at the only candidate meeting in his electorate – what is he afraid of.
This avoidance should be shouted by Opposition parties wide and long. Key is a coward in refusing to mix it with the people in a democratic country during a democratic election.
Makes Internet Mana look good with the series (i.e. not just one) of Roadshow events they are running, where people (aka walking talking members of the public) get to ask live unvetted questions of the IMP leaders and candidates.
Kim Jong Key–does he really expect to get away with this one?
Having to talk policy.
Pinched this from Sideswipe. Someone at the bookshop is being a bit mean but truthful to John Key’s book.
https://scontent-b-pao.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10509555_515240358607800_7531179960078002433_n.jpg
Hah!
As I have suggested and am sounding out the call again:
NZ voters,
do your civic duty,
when you are out and about (bookshop, The Warehouse or public library),
grab a copy or two,
and discretely re-shelve them in the appropriate sections, eg
– Fiction
– Fantasy
– Crime.
Good idea because causing more work for the people that work there is always a good use of your time
lol. but couldn’t make out the small text on the “Top 5” sticker
“Top 5 ways to fix a wonky table leg?’
“Top 5 in David Farrar, Mathew Hooten and Hoskos audio book list?”
“Top 5 unwanted gifts?”
“Top 5 lies told by John Key?”
Just put in my tip to the taxpayers union on this beauty.
ACC overcollecting levies to get the beloved ‘surplus’.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/election-2014/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503581&objectid=11304503
this is a rip-off of the biggest order.
Musings from the ‘roadshow’ #1, DotCom,
Lets start with the big fella, and He is, looking round the packed events center and DotCom can look down at most in the 4–500 strong crowd,
Not that He does, there is no obeisance here, no kowtowing to money, none given and i would suggest none asked for, the speech from the stage low key,(excuse the fruedian but who would suggest Slippery isn’t),
What is remarkable is His description of how the whole mad roller coaster began, Mega, really an absolute piece of socialism its genesis in a German Government grant given to DotCom after the judge had given Him a steer in that direction when as a kid one of His ‘hacking’ escapades showed He had expertise beyond His education in the field,
Annette Sykes, on the stage, fired up said of the meeting at Rotorua where the alliance between Internet and Mana was struck, DotCom didn’t just get to walk in and buy the place with His coin, She personally gave Him the third degree, it wasn’t pretty, not even anywhere near nice,
He came through some hard hours of at times open hostility on the Marae, earned the tick of approval in doing so from Annette, He has respect, such respect not given lightly,
What of Him tho, this DotCom, what i was seeking, from among the shadows, was a personal sense of the man, while i fully understand that deep down there must be ‘rage’, having been deeply involved with the whole police/justice circus over many years of an absolutely misspent youth that makes the supposed ‘crimes’ of DotCom pale into insignificance i know exactly how He feels,
Other than His size, the sheer bulk provides a certain presence, it wasn’t until the final minutes at the venue that i got a real sense of DotCom, talking with Ariana,(more on Her later), one of the local candidates, i didn’t even notice as DotCom slipped past us,
Hailed as He entered the lift with good wishes it struck me then that despite all the supposed mountains of coin, the toys, the Mansion, the publicity, DotCom the bloke is at heart Shy,
There was no grandiose departure, no entourage of the powerful, just DotCom quietly slipping into the lift responding with a smile and a wave as He is wished well for the future,
This of course, has been a message from that future, InternetMana, be there…
great stuff bad12
Thx Bad. Here be delicious dragons, bringing bright flames of change ! 🙂
Thanks for that Bad12. Just the inspiration I need before heading out this avo to deliver flyers for Tuesday’s Dunedin roadshow.
Cheer Pasupial, enjoy, its quite catching that flyer, on the second and third reads, it will be the center of discussion later in the week as i ‘see’ it as the basis of the candidate flyers for the local electorates here in Wellington,
Noted yesterday, Big Ups to InternetMana for the Wellington billboards, great positioning, good succinct message able to be taken in as i drive by,
And,
The color scheme is the bomb, there’s a whole nest of them where i saw this particular billboard and the ‘metallic’ color of the InternetMana one definitely drags attention straight at it…
Thanks bad – good writeup
kathryn ryan is such a rightwing-trout..
..a tax-expert has just made a considered-case on the gross inequalities shown to benefit fraudsters..and ‘white-collar’ tax-fraud..
..and ryan then just skives away from that..
..and starts banging on about welfare-fraud couples..
..as always..’it’s the poor wot’ gets the blame..’
Yep she was as weak as a double lemonade on the DHB negotiations team leader yesterday too, who claimed not to know whether he or other execs received pay increases in excess of the 0.7% offered to health care workers. She could have pressed him as it was a highly relevant point but meekly moved on.
From this mornings Granny, the online version,
National MP Tim Macindoe, along with radio station Free FM have been referred by the Electoral Commission to the Police over an alleged breach of the electoral act by both of them,
No never, i cannot believe that National Party MP’s would ever not adhere to the law, sarc/…
Well breaking the electorial act is normally the preserve of the left but if hes guilty he should be punished
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11304781
dunedin act candidate resigns because of whyte.
holy shit, someone in ACT with actual ethics and standards. Good for him.
Yeah, he’s a nice guy actually.
David Cunliffe on 29/6/14
In our party’s constitution Labour’s first core principle is “All political authority comes from the people by democratic means including universal suffrage, regular and free elections with a secret ballot.”
We won’t be doing pre-election deals. It’s up to New Zealanders to decide who they send to Parliament.
After the election I’ll talk with anyone committed to changing the Government. It’s fair to say that won’t include National, Act or Colin Craig’s group.
My emphasis.
http://thestandard.org.nz/david-cunliffe-qa/#comment-841121
That was in response to this question from Pasupial:
Would you be willing to accept Internet/ MANA Party MPs as part of a Labour-led government if that gave you the numbers to form a progressive coalition post-election (and a mutually satisfactory relationship could be negotiated)?
How about; a United Future & Maori Party MP(s), if they have votes to offer and were willing to negotiate support (I’m assuming a yes for both; Green Party and NZF, a no for; National, ACT & CP, please correct if I’m mistaken)?
I don’t have a problem with Labour deciding that they won’t have Mana/IP/IMP in cabinet or as Ministers. But I am disappointed to see Cunliffe going back on what he has said above. He also said something recently about it being extremely unlikely that Mana would get Ministerial positions, but that they might be part of a C and S agreement. What was wrong with continuing that line?
I think the davis dirty tricks forced his hand – at least he stuck by his candidate I suppose.
It’s a really bad look for Cunliffe to continually cave-in to whatever the latest middle-class focus group feels uneasy about. It just looks weak. I realise he needs to show some degree of political pragmatism, but this tried-and-failed approach is just craven.
“..It’s a really bad look for Cunliffe to continually cave-in to whatever the latest middle-class focus group feels uneasy about. It just looks weak…”
..+ 1..
@marty mars…what worries me about Davis is that he was endorsed by Shane Jones…and we all know whose friend he is
Just in case people missed it:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11304727
Key Points:
• The number of people employed increased by 10,000 people.
• The employment rate fell 0.1 percentage points, to 65.0 per cent.
• The number of people unemployed decreased by 9,000 people.
• The unemployment rate fell 0.3 percentage points to 5.6 per cent.
• The labour force participation rate decreased 0.3 percentage points, to 68.9 per cent.
Great news for NZ 🙂
All in Christchurch though. Shame this Government relies on that tragedy, and the excruciatingly slow rebuild to spin its growth and employment numbers.
You don’t know what that means do you?
I’ll put it simply for you – it means that 0.3% of the working age population stopped looking for work and not because they got a job but because they were sick (probably quite literally in many cases) of looking for work and not finding any. It contradicts everything else you posted except the fall in employment rate.
Listening to radionz news – three in a row, 77 year old man’s murder, body found on St Helier’s beach, another murder.
I think there should be an on-line murders and accidental deaths site where one could find out all the latest tragedies, and publish the victim statements. It is so sad to hear the repetitive nature of the grief being repeated once again, and apparently never with the effect of improving the conditions that led to the death.
It’s depressing that there isn’t reporting about dealing with ongoing problems and future ones – just a ghoulish interest in reports and stats on death and how we hurt each other.
focusing on a tragic/violent incident lets the news off the hook from reporting anything substantial about broader systemic problems. (Same as what Hone clumsily referred to when he was asked about the Malaysian diplomat assault)
An Israeli blogger citing an embedded reporter may have jiggered IDF assertions that strikes on UN buildings housing Palestinian civilian refugees were accidental.
but if it comes to that event, the first time it is published first-hand evidence that approval from headquarters and deadly accurate shooting at a school that was known that it houses hundreds of refugees – and not stray artillery fire as the IDF claims. well if anti-tank missiles were fired from the area of the school, how can you claim that the IDF fired a missile capable of an accuracy of centimeters (“able to slip through precisely buildings windows “) into the populous school is considered” collateral damage avoidance protected population “required by the laws of war and morality?
IDF official response following an investigation published Sunday, July 27th, the day after the release of Zeno’s testimony, was “anti-tank missiles were fired from the area to the troops, who responded with mortar fire.” The testimony of the reporter who was present and stated that they were not mortars but guided precision missile, contradicts the army’s response to the other contradictions and integrates the research, alternatively determined that “there was no harm to civilians in the UNRWA school … there was an empty courtyard” at the same time “in any case, the death of civilians killed by the IDF in this case is a sad result of the election of Hamas in the civilian as a human shield.”
UNRWA spokesman confirmed on several occasions that the IDF moved the location of all the schools and refugee camps, to prevent exactly this kind of killing. Zeno’s testimony, even if inadvertently given, confirming the fact that the IDF knew – and chose to ignore, not at the level of the surface may not have been updated, but the highest command level.
http://www.o139.org/2014/08/blog-post.html
The google translation.
If you want to know why John Key will have another three years in government then just look at what Statistics NZ published today. We are on the right track.
Unemployed of 137,000 is 17,000 fewer than a year ago
Unemployment rate of 5.6% compared to 6.4% a year ago
Employed of 2,328,000 – 82,000 more than a year ago
FT employed up 71,000 and PT employed up 13,000
65,000 more in labour force than a year ago
Labour force participation rate is 68.9% compared to 68.1% a year ago
Maori unemployment rate is 11.0%, down from 12.8% a year ago
Pasifika unemployment rate is 11.4% down from 16.3% a year ago
Under 20 unemployment rate is 20.4%, down from 24.1% a year ago
Manufacturing jobs are 246,500 – up from 242,600 a year ago (recall the crisis!)
Number of hours worked is up 4.8% from a year ago (highest growth for many years)
The proportion of under 2os not in employment, study or training has fallen from 8.0% a year ago to 7.4% today
Salary and wage rates up 1.7% from a year ago
Manufacturing pay rates up 1.9% from a year ago (recall the crisis!)
Total weekly gross earnings up 6.3% from a year ago
Female average earnings as % of male up from 86.7% to 87.1% over a year
[lprent: Link to the source when you want to quote. It also means that others can start checking and discussing your sources. Don’t link, and I will start deleting the quotes. ]
Perhaps you should compare over 5 years? And even over the last year I notice that you missed out inflation rates, changes in the CPI, interest rates, and the estimates of the under-employed – ie the ever increasing numbers of involuntary part time and casual workers. What this government doesn’t appear to be able to affect is the number of people in full-time employment.
Basically this is the government trying to take credit for the world coming out of a recession/depression.
If its from Stats NZ then its in here:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11304727
About 75% of the rise is in full time workers.
The unemployment rate in NZ is below that of the USA, the UK, Australia and the EU
so those hard working public health workers can get more than 0.7% pay rise?
Any chance you could outline National’s policies to tackle systemic poverty in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
Check out the company the GOVT had contracted to help spy on us
of course it because of those naughty gangs isnt it ?
http://www.hackingteam.it/
we have 7 of their “Remote Control System” “legal” spyware tool servers operating in NZ currently..
What a bunch of bullshit. The NATs won’t even invest in and develop these evil capabilities in-country.
Leaking like a chilly bin house.
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/05/politics/u-s-new-leaker/index.html
Nearly half of the people on the U.S. government’s widely shared database of terrorist suspects are not connected to any known terrorist group, according to classified government documents obtained by The Intercept.
Of the 680,000 people caught up in the government’s Terrorist Screening Database—a watchlist of “known or suspected terrorists” that is shared with local law enforcement agencies, private contractors, and foreign governments—more than 40 percent are described by the government as having “no recognized terrorist group affiliation.” That category—280,000 people—dwarfs the number of watchlisted people suspected of ties to al Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah combined.
The documents, obtained from a source in the intelligence community, also reveal that the Obama Administration has presided over an unprecedented expansion of the terrorist screening system. Since taking office, Obama has boosted the number of people on the no fly list more than ten-fold, to an all-time high of 47,000—surpassing the number of people barred from flying under George W. Bush.
“If everything is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism,” says David Gomez, a former senior FBI special agent. The watchlisting system, he adds, is “revving out of control.”
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/08/05/watch-commander/
the increasing irrelevance of the US economy to the global economy.
http://www.gatesnotes.com/~/media/Images/Books/Making-the-Modern-World/making-the-modern-world-cement-A_800_v2.ashx
Don’t be mean Phil. Kathryn Ryan is fair and balanced in any which way you want to swing:
economically – her broad spectrum ‘portfolio’; her work/life balance; her list of ‘go-to’s’ and rent-a-quoters’; her propensity between enilsting comment based on nepotism and ‘new blood’; her being down with the folks and being in with the in-crowd; her expertise on anything and everything from parenthood to music……She be the queen (oops Queen)
She’s God’s gift to mankind, and she’s got a raft of facebook-type friends to prove it. Some of them even pop up on MSM to prove it… from Burma Road socialists to Boombers with guilt. She’s the Queen.
Don’t be cruel. Your just jealous. She’s what RNZ is to PSB as Juan Williams is to NPR.
Why Kathryn even subscribes to The Arts Channel (now Skoi Arts)
Pass the Chardonnay will you darling – this discussion is becoming oh so very boring because Kathryn is an institution that’s become so in touch with both the people, and the movers and shakers. I fuckin adore her!
+100 Tim…me too…Kathryn Ryan is great and she is balanced
um..!..chook..i think tim is taking the piss..eh..?
where does she find the time to watch the arts channel..?
..given she is such a fox news fan..
..(in case you were wondering…that’s where she gets most of the rightwing-talking-points she trots out…)
phillip..lol…loved your second statement at 3.2.1.5.1.1
Obama should be giving money for an Iron Dome over Gaza not Israel.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/04/374067/obama-approves-millions-more-for-israel/
Not wanting to start a flame war but if Hammas stopped using children as human shields, stopped storing weapons in UN buildings and stopped firing rockets at Israel then there’d be no need for an Iron dome
maybe you’ve cried ‘wolf!’ a bit too often..?
Just saying that if Hammas stopped attacking Israel would stop attacking Hammas and if Hammas stopped hiding around civilian populations then there’d be less civilians killed but then Hammas wouldn’t be able to show the worlds media dead children…
not biting..just observing/noting..
..it’d be like engaging with a climate-change/moon-landing denier..
..who can be bothered..?
(did you mention ‘dead children’..?..)
“..Brian Eno:..I Saw a Weeping Palestinian Man Holding A Plastic Bag of Meat: It Was His Son..
…I suddenly found myself thinking that it could have been one of my kids in that bag –
(cont..)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39339.htm
What a completely moranic statement. Are you really so completely ignorant that you don’t know anything about Gaza?
Tell me, have you ever looked at the geography of the Gaza strip… This link is pretty old but not about the land area
Wikipedia is a bit more up to date. This map gives a good idea of the urbanised area in Gaza.
Click into the image.
Hamas are of course the governing body in the Gaza strip. They really don’t have areas that aren’t filled with civilians.
By way of comparision, the size and population density of Auckland city..
Basically you appear to be fuckwit groin clutcher who is too stupid to do some pretty basic research and mostly noticeable for being a lazy parrot for the Israeli PR spinners…
Well done LP. I’ve always wanted to compare Gaza population density with an Israel apologist’s home town population density when they start to froth at the mouth about Hamas supposedly using human shields to hide munitions.
Guerilla warfare is by definition part time, and bound (by necessity) within the civilian population.
Ahhh, yeah, Lynn, but let’s not be too ambitious for Pucks, he needs to learn to walk before he can run. Frankly, I’ll be over the moon if he just manages to spell “Hamas” correctly !, given that he’s devoted so much space to dribbling meaningless inanities about the movement.
Certainly, though, it’s been interesting over recent weeks to witness our very own Tory Tr*lls mindlessly regurgitating official Israeli spin, clearly without possessing even the faintest idea….seems to be a default-position for them. Very telling.
In terms of the almost 2 Million Palestinians crammed into the Gaza Strip (most of them refugees or their descendants), your Gaza/Auckland comparison can be extended…….
Gaza’s territory in NZ terms
(1) Auckland
Gaza (north to south) is about three-quarters the (north – south) length of Auckland – essentially Papakura to Browns Bay. But Gaza’s width is only a quarter of its length – slightly wider than the North Shore (roughly Takapuna to Hobsonville).
(2) Coromandel
Gaza’s about half the length of the Coromandel peninsula and considerably less than half the width.
(3) Central NI
Gaza = same length as Lake Taupo but not much more than a third of the width.
(4) Wellington
Gaza length = Island Bay to Pukerua Bay. Gaza width = same as Wellington Harbour at its widest point
(5) Christchurch
Same length as Banks Peninsula (if measuring Peninsula east to west), but only half the width
(6) Dunedin
Gaza length = Waitati in north to a point a little south of Brighton in the south
Gaza width = Ocean Grove to Half-way Bush
Hi Puckish Rogue,
‘Quiet-for-quiet‘?
I don’t think that’s true.
“The most recent cease-fire was established after Israel’s October 2012 assault. Though Israel maintained its devastating siege, Hamas observed the cease-fire, as Israeli officials concede. Matters changed in June, when Fatah and Hamas forged a unity agreement, which established a new government of technocrats that had no Hamas participation and accepted all of the demands of the Quartet. Israel was naturally furious, even more so when even the US joined in signaling approval. The unity agreement not only undercuts Israel’s claim that it cannot negotiate with a divided Palestine, but also threatens the long term goal of dividing Gaza from the West Bank and pursuing its destructive policies in both of the regions.
Something had to be done, and an occasion arose shortly after, when the three Israeli boys were murdered in the West Bank. The Netanyahu government knew at once that they were dead, but pretended otherwise, which provided the opportunity to launch a rampage in the West Bank, targeting Hamas. Netanhayu claimed to have certain knowledge that Hamas was responsible. That too was a lie, as recognized early on. There has been no pretense of presenting evidence. One of Israel’s leading authorities on Hamas, Shlomi Eldar, reported almost at once that the killers very likely came from a dissident clan in Hebron that has long been a thorn in the side of Hamas. Eldar added that “I’m sure they didn’t get any green light from the leadership of Hamas, they just thought it was the right time to act.” The Israeli police have since been searching for two members of the clan, still claiming, without evidence, that they are “Hamas terrorists.”
The 18-day rampage however did succeed in undermining the feared unity government, and sharply increasing Israeli repression. According to Israeli military sources, Israeli soldiers arrested 419 Palestinians, including 335 affiliated with Hamas, and killed six Palestinians, also searching thousands of locations and confiscating $350,000. Israel also conducted dozens of attacks in Gaza, killing 5 Hamas members on July 7.
Hamas finally reacted with its first rockets in 19 months, Israeli officials reported, providing Israel with the pretext for Operation Protective Edge on July 8.“
Nope. If Israel stopped building settlements on top of PA land there’d be no need for an Iron Dome. If Israel stopped inviting every Jewish person on the planet to fill those settlements there’d be no need for an Iron Dome.
If those two things happened there’d be no need for the kind of destruction we’ve seen over the last two weeks.
Any chance you could outline National’s policies to tackle systemic poverty in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
What a disgraceful statement.
By the way, can you outline National’s policies to reverse our declining environment in New Zealand?
Your leader doesn’t seem to want to discuss policy, so wondered if you could help out.
If the IDF propaganda about accidental strikes on UN facilities is collapsing so when the UN facilities are used as arsenals narrative falls over will you admit your gullibility?.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11304914
Might I suggest T. Mallard for the role, he seems to know quite a bit about this sort of thing
http://www.stuff.co.nz/164612/Mallard-wrong-but-refuses-to-say-sorry
five years ago, that the best you can do?
John Keys really is just an old fashioned sexist pig of a man when it comes down to it.
Sugar daddy, John? Really, you’re going with that?
ffs.
Sure, unemployment down especially in Canterbury.
But 40% fall in dairy price in 6 months.
Dollar falls nearly 2 cents in 2 days: global market analysts clear that NZs dairying vulnerability far more important than employment.
Wake up National.
Anyone here connected to Sue Moroney’s campaign? Seen a few of her billboards around Hamilton, but yet to see a picture of David Cunliffe.
Listen carefully: You are working hard to get back into opposition but nothing more. You can not win the election by winning electorates. Capiche?
The Associate Transport Minister has announced a time limit for Learners licenses. This is because a huge number of people refuse to go to the next stage.
I am one. I have been car licensed for four decades but also drive a scooter on a learners. The reason for this is the cost. Its a $500 rort. Then theres the time restrictions. …all in the name of safety. What a load of revenue raising bollocks.
Personally, I think a drivers licence should get you driving any non-commercial vehicle up to about 2 tonne. From there you’d need specialist licences to drive heavy trucks, trailers, forklifts and diggers.
Oh, and I’ve never been enthusiastic about leaner’s licences. Much better idea to require that people have the required training to get the licence in the first place.
Not good.
.
By now, you’ve heard of the crater on the Yamal Peninsula. It’s the one that suddenly appeared, yawning nearly 200 feet in diameter, and made several rounds in the global viral media machine. The adjectives most often used to describe it: giant, mysterious, curious. Scientists were subsequently “baffled.” Locals were “mystified.” There were whispers that aliens were responsible. Nearby residents peddled theories of “bright flashes” and “celestial bodies.”
[…]
There’s now a substantiated theory about what created the crater. And the news isn’t so good.
It may be methane gas, released by the thawing of frozen ground. According to a recent Nature article, “air near the bottom of the crater contained unusually high concentrations of methane — up to 9.6% — in tests conducted at the site on 16 July, says Andrei Plekhanov, an archaeologist at the Scientific Centre of Arctic Studies in Salekhard, Russia. Plekhanov, who led an expedition to the crater, says that air normally contains just 0.000179% methane.”
The scientist said the methane release may be related to Yamal’s unusually hot summers in 2012 and 2013, which were warmer by an average of 5 degrees Celsius. “As temperatures rose, the researchers suggest, permafrost thawed and collapsed, releasing methane that had been trapped in the icy ground,” the report stated.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/05/scientists-may-have-cracked-the-giant-siberian-crater-mystery-and-the-news-isnt-good
You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time but Key thinks he can fool all of the people all of the time.
This election is going to be a mill stone for the winner because of the TPPA and who ever has to take responsibility for selling our sovereignty will be damned as the leader ,which plays nicely for Key because it will probably swing a third term for him and if not will probably paint another PM as a liar and give them only a term which is all Key needs to complete his economic and political mission to squash any major left wing destruction of his last 2 terms ,a sacrifice, if needs be by Key to get done what he knows will happen to NZ and not be made directly responsible for it and if he gets his 3rd term he will be able to annihilate the left and any of the old NZ left values will be gone for good unless there is a real revolution brought about by the mass of losers that will be most of us
Clever Key you think ,just a scenario I dreamed up