Open Mike 11/11/2016

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    • Draco T Bastard 1.1

      Well, we shouldn’t be surprised after all these years of National cutting health budgets.

      • The Chairman 1.1.1

        Surprised? Not really. More like disgusted.

        • Draco T Bastard

          When the government cuts budgets year after year then services will be cut and those will start with the least critical which the most vulnerable need.

          • The Chairman

            It would cost the state far less to cover her home help than it would to cover her rest home care.

            • Sacha

              Different budget, someone else’s problem. She must feel so betrayed at that age after what she has contributed, having a lifeline cut off so cruelly.

              • The Chairman

                While the funding may come out of a different budget, it ultimately still comes from the state. Hence, one would expect better oversight and communication between departments.

                • Expect away, but departments are still run by humans. In any large organisation, the fact that it’s all the organisation’s money in the final analysis doesn’t prevent individual managers trying to keep their own figures looking good, even if it’s at the expense of the service provided to the organisation’s customers. Blame the post-80s culture of performance reviews and KPIs – if your performance is going to be judged on how well you manage your budget, you bet you’re going to make sure you don’t let it get committed to stuff that’s outside your area of responsibility.

              • The Chairman

                Additionally, she’s probably not the only one to be impacted by the new changes.

            • Draco T Bastard

              They’re using a binary decision tree. If this, then that.

              The new DHB policy means the home care help will only be given to those who also need personal services, such as showering and being dressed.

              However, Cottingham was told she does not qualify for that and so she will lose everything.

              They’re not actually looking at physical realities.

              • The Chairman

                Cutting costs in one area that result in higher costs elsewhere is poor fiscal management.

                • Sacha

                  But the decision is delegated to a manager who is only responsible for one of the cost centres, not the other. Dumps costs on other agencies or on vulnerable people and their families.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Yes, very poor fiscal management and probably even poorer economics as well.

                  It still happens as we can see and probably due to the atomisation of the service as Sacha and PM point out.

                  • Rosemary McDonald

                    “Yes, very poor fiscal management and probably even poorer economics as well.”

                    Actually it is a VERY good decision from a fiscally economic point of view.

                    For want of one and a half hour’s of home help….this lady will be railroaded into a residential facility…obviously against her will….but never mind that.

                    Because she owns her home….the cost of her care in a residential facility will be taken out of her estate when she shuffles off or if she sells her home prior to her falling off her perch.


              • Red

                What bs Draco it will be sorted out at appeal, she has probably just been caught up in a general policy hence the appeal process deals with your binary process, irrespective you pulled that Bs out of thin air, note reading Marx cover to cover 50 times does not make you an authourity on everything

                • Rosemary McDonald

                  “What bs Draco it will be sorted out at appeal,”

                  Hah!…Clearly you have never had to appeal one of these decisions.

                  It is POLICY now….she very well may be fresh out of luck.

                  The people who make these policies and those who make the decisions are often sociopathic heartless bastards.

                  I speak from experience.

  1. Ad 2

    Chloe Swarbrick is running as a candidate for the Green Party.
    Previously one of the Auckland Mayoral candidates.

    • Nick 2.1

      Chloe was a good public speaker at a Mayoral debate I went to. She’d be great for the Green Party.

    • The Chairman 2.2


      I thought she might have been tempted to join TOP.

      Could you imagine Nikki Kaye, Jacinda Ardern and Chloe Swarbrick going head to head to win Auckland central?

      • Lanthanide 2.2.1

        Yeah, “battle of the babes” again. I’m sure they’ll love those headlines.

        • The Chairman

          That headline would ruffle a few feathers.

          Chloe Swarbrick is capable of winning an electorate seat, wonder if the Greens will stand her in one?

          • chris73

            Anyone is capable of course but given her age and experience it’d have to be a very specific electorate seat and Labour would have to not contest it

            • The Chairman

              Can you foresee anyone in Labour willing to stand aside for the Greens?

              • chris73

                Probably not in a winnable seat unless theres a the promise of a very high list spot however its happened before in the Coramandel so never say never

                I would say though that if I was advising the Labour party then to make it more likely Labour/Green win the next election (or to make it more likely NZFirst support them) Labour should look at a deal with the Greens to gift them an electorate seat

    • chris73 3.1

      I’ve been a bit quiet of late as I’ve been organizing the sale of one of my properties and Harcourts have managed to secure an offer 12 grand above my expectations so its still reasonable to expect more for houses

      • The Chairman 3.1.1

        According to the article Hawke’s Bay and the West Coast were the only regions were asking prices dropped.

        • chris73

          I’m surprised about Hawkes Bay, I’d have thought their prices would raise

          • The Chairman

            Most likely related to slow population growth deterring investors.

              • The Chairman

                The key word their is ‘Central’ Hawke’s Bay.

                We were discussing Hawke’s Bay overall.

                • Siobhan

                  Like the article says, if you read it, not just the headline, Hastings and Napier are short of rental housing. They are the main populations of the Hawkes Bay.

                  and they are right, as I live here and am a renter as are many of my friends and customers.

                  • The Chairman

                    Hastings and Napier alone don’t make up the whole Hawke’s Bay region.

                    The article I linked to (and which we were discussing) was talking about the Hawke’s Bay region overall.

                    • Siobhan

                      Are you okay?
                      I get it you are talking about a specific article..but does that mean ignoring something that is a)related but b) doesn’t fit your world view
                      You are talking about the Hawkes Bay but discount Central Hawkes Bay, Hastings and Napier as being too specific?.
                      So what are we talking about…Wairoa? Haumoana?

                      Surely ‘overall’ would be heavily biased to the places where people actually live.

                    • The Chairman

                      I’m fine, thanks.

                      I wasn’t ignoring or disputing it .Simply stating that’s not the case for the region overall.

    • katipo 3.2

      Wonder how this would go down in Auckland…
      “Vancouver slaps $10,000 a year tax on empty homes. Lie about it and it’s $10,000 a day”…

  2. fisiani 4

    Given that it seems obvious that Andrew Little will lose the election next year who do you reckon should lead Labour after the summer BBQ’s? King? Robbo? Ardern? Nash? Parker? Davis? Someone else?

    [This is a left wing space, not a free for all for any prat with a key board. RWers are welcome here if they can contribute to the political debate. Stop with the trolling. Only warning. – weka]

    • Draco T Bastard 4.1

      How about you just fuck off?

      Really, you’re just trolling here. And it seems to be in desperation now that it’s obvious that National are going to lose.

    • chris73 4.2

      The problem with King (well its not really a problem I guess) is that shes currently 69 years old. Shes probably the best performing member of Labour (and I don’t mean that in a back handed way, I do think shes Labours best) but just to old to lead Labour especially if they’re trying to show a fresh face to the voters

      Stuart Nash is probably the best of the lot to lead but will never be chosen

      • Richard Rawshark 4.2.1

        Then an attack on Annette for being a woman and being of some age that apparently Chris73 denigrates.. This is exactly the bigoted crap we should STOMP on.

      • Siobhan 4.2.2

        Stuart Nash…are you kidding?? .

        “coming second but maintaining our principles’ is a ludicrous proposition.”

        Doesn’t matter what Political stance floats your boat…why would you vote for that?. Unless of course you’re a disciple of Ayn Rand.

        “Nash has been the subject of a surprising amount of positive blog posts by Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater, who calls him a “very good bloke” (he’s also in with Right-wing spin doctor Matthew Hooton)”.
        infact, and I’m happy to be corrected, but I think Hooton actually helped Nash fundraise last election). Either way, is that what we wan’t from Labour??

        Why not just vote for a more moderate National.
        Maybe Nash could move over there.

        • chris73

          I think theres been a shift in thinking in NZ since 2000, prior to that there seemed to be a large swing of the pendulum between left and right, Labour and National.

          Clark took Labour to center left and was rewarded with three terms, John Key has kept a lot of Labour policies and took National to center right and has been rewarded with three terms with the potential for a fourth term so the pendulum swing between Labour and National is not so much and I think thats what the voters of NZ want

          Voters still remember the days of unions striking whenever (especially the ferry during holiday times) and Rogernomics and the upheaval that caused and don’t want a return to that

          Equally no one wants a return to the days of Ruth Richardsons budgets either (I’m sure there are more examples of course)

          So Labour going hard left or National going hard right would be a very bad idea as the voting public would punish them so Labour, under Nash, staying center left would see their best change for re-election

          In my always humble opinion of course

          • Siobhan

            Humble opinions always respected chris73.

            But just remember as time moves on we have younger voters moving in, and even myself, and I’m mumble mumble middle ageish, and we barely remember ferry strikes, let alone Ruth and co.

            What the younger voter knows is crappy wages, in fact so low they need to be subsidised by the Government (Family Tax Credit), crappy hours, job insecurity, no house and rents so high the Government has to subsidise them(accommodation allowances)……maybe Unions might start looking a bit more attractive (though difficult to join when you are on your own negotiating a job you desperately need).

            The bottom line is Labour have been very Centrist for so long that for some people its increasingly difficult to see how different life would really be under either Party.
            Centre Left is for people who own their own home, or soon will, and who had free University education, or can afford to take on the loan. It is not for people starting out in life.

            Now currently the Boomers are the main block of voters, but Labour needs to start talking to the under 40’s and offering them something very very different, or they will find themselves relying on a smaller and smaller pool of support.

            In my humble opinion.

            • chris73

              And thats entirely possible as well, I mean if I could tell the future I’d have Lotto by now

      • mary_a 4.2.3

        @ Chris 73 … if you consider Annette King too old to lead Labour, what do you say about Winston Peters at 71 leading NZ First? Then there is Queen Elizabeth at 90 still going strong! It’s the calibre of the person, not age or gender.

        • chris73

          Well I don’t think you can compare the Queen as its not exactly a position you get voted in for but in regards to Annette King its not that I don’t think she’d do a good job, because I think shes Labours best performing MP, its more that if Labour want to present a fresh, new alternative to a supposed tired National government then someone thats been around since the days of Rogernomics probably isn’t your best choice to lead

    • Bearded Git 4.3


      30+12+8=Key playing golf in Hawaii full-time.

    • Fizzzzzzzz…phut..phut,..phut…
      Reminded me of a firework that fizzed, hissed, burbled and phutted out on Guy Fawkes night. A failure, I guess, but hilarious to watch.

    • b waghorn 4.5

      Little is the right man for next pm , it’s a shame nz may not realise it time to stop another 3 years of short here and now nats bullshit , but i’d give Little my vote to remain leader if it came to it.

  3. Enough is Enough 5


    Would you consider Trump’s policies (well rhetoric actually as he doesn’t really have any policies) on trade and jobs as right wing?

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

    [moved from another thread where it was off topic and likely to derail, but OM is not the right place either. Please take it to one of the US Election threads – weka]

  4. james 6

    The triggering.

    Watched this with my family last night. Made me think of a lot of people on here.

    Amusingly enough it was on the same night a lot of leftie uni students were out on the streets protesting against democracy (the trump victory) because they did not get their own way.

    well worth the watch and thinking about.

    [content warning, video contains racism, sexism, and entitled, priviledged prats belittling people in pain and who are struggling]

  5. Morrissey 7

    More evidence of Jesse Mulligan’s abysmal lack of knowledge.
    Is he the right person to be filling the position of afternoon host?

    The Panel, RNZ National, Tuesday 8 November 2016
    Jim Mora, Golnaz Bassam-Tabar, Michael Moynihan, Zara Potts, Jesse Mulligan

    RNZ National’s Afternoon host Jesse Mulligan has many commendable traits: he’s quick-witted, pleasant and he lets people speak without bullying them or caviling over what they’ve said. He is an enthusiastic—some might say affected—gourmand, and likes nothing better than talking about how to cook artichokes, or where to go in Wellington to get THE best coffee. However, he appears to be lamentably ill-informed about politics, history, and popular culture in general. On Monday he told television critic Phil Wallington that he’d never heard of the legendary New Zealand soap Close to Home; a few weeks ago he’d never heard of “some guy called John Philip Sousa”.

    There’s only one reason why a forty year old man has not even heard of John Philip Sousa or Close to Home. That reason is: he doesn’t read widely. The contrast between him and Kim Hill is enormous, and probably unbreachable.

    It’s a real problem. Mulligan is occupying a seat that was once filled by Jim Mora who, for all his faults, was at least well read and was not continually announcing his lack of any knowledge about topics under discussion. The hosts of National Radio talk-based shows in the past have been people like Sharon Crosby, John Campbell and Kim Hill, i.e., people who read voraciously and could talk intelligently about most subjects. Mulligan by contrast has vast gaps in his knowledge—“some guy called John Philip Sousa”—and feels compelled to inform us on a regular basis of that lamentable fact.

    If you’re a kind and indulgent person, you might well argue that even if he reads little or nothing and knows even less, what’s the problem? Well, the problem is this: an influential radio station will, without doubt, play host to all manner of ideologues, politicians and—perhaps most despicable of all—mediocre academics. If the host is not sufficiently intelligent, he becomes little more than prey to some of very nasty, cynical, agenda-driven people—a useful idiot, in other words.

    A presenter who has no knowledge, or at best a sketchy knowledge, of what is being discussed will end up saying things like THIS….

    “Sometimes when I read this stuff I get the sense that Russia are L-L-L-LOOKIN’ for trouble, are L-L-L-LOOKIN’ to create tension with the U.S. Is that fair?” [1]

    No, that was not a Harry Enright impression of a halfwitted upper class poseur, it was Jesse Mulligan six weeks ago, trying to contribute something—ANYTHING—to an “interview” with Professor Al Gillespie about Syria.

    Last Tuesday, Mulligan took the opportunity, yet again, to reveal his lack of knowledge about almost everything, other than how to cook asparagus, and where to purchase the best coffee….

    JIM MORA: That song sounds like “Burning Bridges”.
    JESSE MULLIGAN: Never heard of it.

    …Stunned silence….

    JIM MORA: From the movie Kelly’s Heroes.
    ZARA POTTS: I’ve never heard of it either.
    JESSE MULLIGAN: When did it come out?

    …Awkward silence….

    JIM MORA: The sixties, I think…..

    ….ad nauseam….

    [1] /open-mike-05102016/#comment-1240290

    • Sacha 7.1

      Gasp. Young person doesn’t know name of military marching band composer who died in 1932. As good a test of whether someone is widely-read as their knowledge of popular pomade or buggy-whip brands. Mulligan was impressive as MC/interviewer at the Auckland Writers festival.

      • Morrissey 7.1.1

        Gasp. Young person doesn’t know name of military marching band composer who died in 1932.

        Beethoven died more than a century earlier than Sousa did, so I guess Jesse Mulligan has never heard of him either, or the even more obscure Mozart. Mind you, that’s quite possible, going by his announcement this afternoon that he has “listened to no classical music.”

        As good a test of whether someone is widely-read as their knowledge of popular pomade or buggy-whip brands.

        No it’s not. Your analogy is absurd.

        Mulligan was impressive as MC/interviewer at the Auckland Writers festival.

        And Mike Hosking was impressive hosting the candidates’ debates two years ago. Your point is?

  6. ianmac 8

    I have lost the side menu on my Mac+ Firefox. Is it just me?

  7. Richard Rawshark 9

    I love the News headlines, for..god knows why actually, but this one cracked me up.

    Gang boss had studded bat and axe.

    am I somehow supposed to be shocked?

    More shocked if it said collection of love poems.

    • Invisible Axe 9.1

      The news last night “The Govt are proposing 110kms for roads, but not for all roads”, well duh!

    • Draco T Bastard 9.2

      More shocked if it said collection of love poems

      He probably kept them hidden in the handle of the bat.

      I have NFI why he’d have a studded axe.

  8. Takere 10

    USS Sampson Visit & the Esmeralda Chilean Torture ship …
    Here’s the programme for the week.

    Its page two & three on the Ngati Paoa iwi Trust facebook page.

    Includes contact details to for people to write too, to voice their opposition to the iwi escorting & supporting the US War Machine into NZ waters.

    Here’s the link to the Ngati Paoa iwi Trusts facebook page;

    The waka Te Kotuiti 2
    Posted on the NP iwi Trust FaceBook page.
    Contact to voice opposition to iwi supporting the oppressor of an indigenous race across the world at “Standing Rock Indian Reservation is a Hunkpapa Lakota and Yanktonai Dakota Indian reservation in North Dakota and South Dakota in by the US Government War Machine.

    Lead by Hau (Eugene) Rawiri self proclaimed Atua of Ngati Paoa.
    Contact number; 021893833

    • b waghorn 11.1

      i know most here hate farming but it does produce food , maybe we should put a carbon tax on pointless shit like pet food , horse racing and cut flowers .
      Of course the rich lefties will still be able to afford their steaks but no more mince for old blue collar Bob !!

      • The Chairman 11.1.1

        A number of consumers would find a 40% increase in the price of beef hard to swallow. Forcing some to cut consumption elsewhere.

        • aerobubble

          Beef is a protein, protien is a commodity. Alternatives exist. The problem with the market for food in NZ is its too centralized and isn’t about to provide a choice of protein alternatives. This costs money, when fod retailers choose to vary price, quality, limit choice, vary availability, they are in the competitive space that a price hike would be easy to adapt to. i.e lots of politucal blowback as voters blame Key for shoddy NZ.

      • Draco T Bastard 11.1.2

        It’s not a question of hating farming but of questioning farming practices that are doing so much damage to our environment and if we really need so damn much of it.

  9. b waghorn 12

    Main freight has to put more trucks on the road because inept government can’t organise rail.

  10. Bearded Git 14

    This article and audio on Corbyn is interesting in the context of the “insider” Hillary’s failure.

  11. adam 15

    My friends know I’m a bit of a footy nut. This last year has been great. And 2017 looks awesome with the beginning of a AFL Women’s league.

    Now why should that interest you?? – How this for great – the marque player of note – Moana Hope

    She is of New Zealand extraction, I’m sure that Aussie speak she is part Maori.

    Here is her on playing and disabled kids in sport

    The only down side of this competition is the pay, and full medical cover for the players. The aim, is when TV and the viewing public pick up the game these will improve, and improve radically.

    I’ll post when the first game is being played.

    Please note I barrack for Fremantle –

  12. Manuka AOR 16

    Leonard Cohen has passed.

    • All the stars are going out, one by one.

      No doubt we’re going to be hearing Hallelujah a lot in the next few days. I prefer this:

      Thanks, Leonard, you were one of the very best.

    • McFlock 16.2


    • marty mars 16.3

      rip Leonard

      miss you already…

    • joe90 16.4

      He did warn us. RIP Leonard.

      You Want It Darker

      If you are the dealer, I’m out of the game
      If you are the healer, it means I’m broken and lame
      If thine is the glory then mine must be the shame
      You want it darker
      We kill the flame

      Magnified, sanctified, be thy holy name
      Vilified, crucified, in the human frame
      A million candles burning for the help that never came
      You want it darker

      Hineni, hineni
      I’m ready, my lord

      There’s a lover in the story
      But the story’s still the same
      There’s a lullaby for suffering
      And a paradox to blame
      But it’s written in the scriptures
      And it’s not some idle claim
      You want it darker
      We kill the flame

      They’re lining up the prisoners
      And the guards are taking aim
      I struggled with some demons
      They were middle class and tame
      I didn’t know I had permission to murder and to maim
      You want it darker

      Hineni, hineni
      I’m ready, my lord

      Magnified, sanctified, be thy holy name
      Vilified, crucified, in the human frame
      A million candles burning for the love that never came
      You want it darker
      We kill the flame

      If you are the dealer, let me out of the game
      If you are the healer, I’m broken and lame
      If thine is the glory, mine must be the shame
      You want it darker

      Hineni, hineni
      Hineni, hineni
      I’m ready, my lord

      Hineni, hineni

    • Manuka AOR 16.5

      Posted elsewhere by Grey

      Democracy is coming to the USA

      Sail on, sail on
      Oh mighty ship of State
      To the shores of need
      Past the reefs of greed
      Through the Squalls of hate
      Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on


  13. aerobubble 17

    Has Freeview dropped the parliament channel? Cant get it anymore. Did they move it to a diferent frequency but my tv cant recieve that many channels from the same freq source?

    • Tony Veitch (not the partner-bashing 3rd rate broadcaster 17.1

      My Freeview shifted Parliament from channel 22 to channel 31 – no idea why.

  14. Richard Rawshark 18

    How’s Fairley doing against in the UFC?

    Mt Roskill byelection heats up with claims of ‘man-handling’ and threats

    If you need an angry old man, just holla.

  15. Richard Rawshark 19

    Well it’s a joke.. RiP labour, with the combined efforts of TV1-TV3-Newshub and the Hearald, labour have not got a chance .At all. You may as well disband. Laterz.

    I can’t be bothered at the moment.

    Either go hard or go home.

  16. weka 21

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    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    2 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    2 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    3 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    4 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy
    4 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    4 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    7 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    7 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago

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