Open mike 26/10/2013

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242 comments on “Open mike 26/10/2013”

  1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/marijuana-cancer_n_4158865.html

    “..A scientist in the United Kingdom has found that compounds derived from marijuana can kill cancerous cells found in people with leukemia..”

    phillip ure..

    • northshoredoc 1.1

      Interesting Phil but a lot of work still to do before there’s any place for cannabinoids in the treatment of any cancers.

      • weka 1.1.1

        We could decriminalise now for management of pain and side effects of treatments though.

        • Tat Loo 1.1.1.1

          As a chiropractor and pain management expert I support that 100%, particularly under the auspices of formal health sector regulation. Common medical pain management approaches are not effective or suitable for tens of thousands of New Zealanders, and there should be more options on the table.

          Just consider how drugs like morphine and fentanyl are legal in NZ for pain management, but marijuana is not. It simply reflects a very outdated historical situation.

          Time we get over ourselves and put more options on the table.

          • AsleepWhileWalking 1.1.1.1.1

            +1
            It would probably be cheaper than those other drugs too. No big pharma company cut to pay.

            • Tat Loo 1.1.1.1.1.1

              If I were a chiropractor cynical about Big Pharma I’d wonder where some of the opposition to the use of marijuana for pain management was coming from. Luckily, I’m not 😈

            • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.1.1.2

              It would probably be cheaper than those other drugs too. No big pharma company cut to pay.

              And that’s probably the only reason as to why it’s still illegal. It’s certainly nothing to do with it being bad for you else alcohol and cigarettes would be illegal.

              • northshoredoc

                🙄

              • TheContrarian

                Why would it have anything to do with “big pharma” making it illegal? If it were legal pharmaceutical companies could patent aspects of THC and make a killing as they do with other chemicals.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Why would they be able to patent that which they didn’t invent?

                  • TheContrarian

                    You miss the point Draco. I don’t mean patenting THC itself but using THC to create a whole new class of drugs and patenting those. It doesn’t make sense to say the only reason it is illegal is because pharmaceutical companies could make a killing on patenting drugs derived from cannabis.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Was reading an article a while back (may have linked to it on TS) about magic mushrooms. Limited research is showing that it’s far better than Prozac. It does the same job, doesn’t have anywhere near the side effects that Prozac does and only requires one treatment rather than daily doses.

                      Of course, that’s magic mushies but it has the same problem, commercially, as marijuana – anybody can grow it and we don’t actually need any derived drugs.

                      As for the TPPA: A large chunk of it seems to be about IP and that means we probably won’t be able to change our IP laws to boost innovation. One such change that needs to happen, IMO, is that patents should not be allowed to apply to things that are based upon the natural laws of the universe (same as maths formula aren’t allowed to be patented/copyrighted). That would kill the drug and life patenting that we presently see.

                    • TheContrarian

                      We don’t ‘need’ the derived drugs but considering some people don’t like being stoned and magic mushroom can have unpleasant physical side effects (as well as being hard to control dosage given difference mushrooms have varying levels of the active ingredient) there is still a big market for derived versions to be created.

                      Your comment about big pharma blocking cannabis legalisation doesn’t make sense.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Choice: Grow your own and get stoned or pay out huge amounts of cash you don’t have to big pharma?

                    • TheContrarian

                      Missing the point again.
                      Some people don’t like to get stoned therefore there is an commercial industry in creating a drug which delivers the benefits without the high. I can’t make it more simple than that.

                  • Tat Loo (CV)

                    No doubt when they have us sign the TPPA…

                    • TheContrarian

                      I fail to see what the TPPA has to do with whether or not a pharmaceutical companies could patent a drug made from THC

          • Rodel 1.1.1.1.2

            TatLoo..
            .”Just consider how drugs like morphine and fentanyl are legal in NZ for pain management, but marijuana is not. It simply reflects a very outdated historical situation.”

            Very well stated…in a nutshell.Should be quoted a lot.

            • northshoredoc 1.1.1.1.2.1

              No it reflects what is registered by medsafe.

              • weka

                For a science dude you are a bit short on the logic there doc. It reflects what is registered by medsafe, but that’s not the only thing it reflects. People can use all sorts of things for pain relief that have never been ciminilised. Why was cannabis?

              • Foreign Waka

                No it shows what can be controlled, regulated and taxed. Do you propose that Marijuana is more dangerous than Morphine?

                • TheContrarian

                  “Marijuana is more dangerous than Morphine?”

                  If you remove the addictive nature of morphine and look primarly on it’s effect on the body it is less dangerous than marijuana. Purely from a physiological standpoint.

                  • Foreign Waka

                    Call me naive, but isn’t the addictive nature what makes it so dangerous? I mean, if you go one step further and add the derivative heroine it hardly gets any more suicidal. This is by my reckoning by far – pretty much as far as it gets – dangerous than marijuana.

                    Some recognizable people who died from a Morphine overdose:

                    Hank Williams, Janet Achurch, Lenny Bruce, Tim Buckley, Chris Farley, Sigmund Freud, Paul Gray, Brent Mydland, Gram Parsons, Brad Renfro, Count Gottfried from Biesmark, Edward E. Hannegan

                  • Tat Loo (CV)

                    If you remove the addictive nature of morphine and look primarly on it’s effect on the body it is less dangerous than marijuana. Purely from a physiological standpoint.

                    That is the stupidest, and most dangerous incorrect statement that I’ve come across all day. I daresay it’s probably a deliberate lie.

                    It’s virtually impossible for someone overusing marijuana to die from it. Maybe if they choke on an accidentally swallowed joint?

                    In comparison it’s dead simple to die from overusing morphine (or sometimes even appropriately using it). A combination of respiratory suppression, coma and shock/cardiac arrest will typically do it.

                    • TheContrarian

                      Yes overdose is easy but in a controlled circumstance (like a hospital) morphine is extremely clean and does little to no damage to the body. That’s why it continues to be the gold standard in pain relief.

          • weka 1.1.1.1.3

            “Just consider how drugs like morphine and fentanyl are legal in NZ for pain management, but marijuana is not. It simply reflects a very outdated historical situation.”

            yeah, but I wouldn’t like to see cannabis as a plant only legal by prescription. If big pharma wants to develop medicines from cannabis once its legal, more power to them. But let people use the plant itself as they see fit too.

            • Chris 1.1.1.1.3.1

              “If big pharma wants to develop medicines from cannabis ”

              Weka, they already do manufacture pain relief meds from cannabis. In Sth Africa it is available in liquid form. Can’t remember the Pharma at the moment, but will post link if I find it.

      • Tat Loo 1.1.2

        Interesting Phil but a lot of work still to do before there’s any place for cannabinoids in the treatment of any cancers.

        Agreed. However for the treatment of cancer associated pain (not for the treatment of cancer itself), it should be one of the options on the table.

        • AsleepWhileWalking 1.1.2.1

          I think there is a derivative (forgot the name) that is available to chronic pain sufferers, but it is a whopping $500 a month.

        • northshoredoc 1.1.2.2

          No it should not there are plenty of proven options on the table at present.

          • miravox 1.1.2.2.1

            “No it should not there are plenty of proven options on the table at present.”

            I don’t know about cancer – but for inflammatory arthritis flares another pain reduction option that works without knocking you out would be gratefully received.

          • Tat Loo 1.1.2.2.2

            Yes there are plenty of proven options. And there should be more. Because for plenty of patients today’s options may start off being effective but eventually end up being unsuitable, with the development of many unwanted adverse effects and reduced efficacy, over a period of months or years.

            • phillip ure 1.1.2.2.2.1

              @ tat loo +1..

              ..it is also good for the treatment of nausea from the side-effects of chemo..

              and @ northshoredoc..

              ..do you have any logical/rational reasons for being opposed to cannabis being an alternative-option for many drugs..?

              ..drugs that often have serious side-effects..?

              ..and as a personal testimony of sorts..i was recently cured of the hepatitis i had been lugging around since junkie-days..

              ..and i have found..in hindsight..is that an effect of hep..is feeling shit..

              ..you wake up in the morning feeling pretty shit..

              ..so for decades i self-medicated with cannabis..

              ..and once again..in hindsight..i am glad i did..

              ..and tho’ i still use cannabis..i use far less..

              ..it is now more recreational..

              ..and there is no longer that need/drive to use it as medicine..

              ..to stop feeling crap..

              ..so..once again..in hindsight..

              ..i would urge all those with hep be offered the option of medical-cannabis..

              ..to help them stop feeling like shit all the time..

              ..’cos i know..it works..

              ..phillip ure..

              • TheContrarian

                Did your former junkie days also have an effect on your ability to construct sentences?

                • ghostrider888

                  inhalations and exhalations
                  integrations and excavations

                • LynWiper

                  TC You have the choice to read and ‘hear’ the personal message and experience shared or move on by. Why choose to criticise the structure? Try a little kindness.

                • @ contrarian..

                  ..quite possibly..but not really..

                  ..i blame ee cummings..(for showing me the option of stripping away of the false-honorifics that are capital letters..)

                  ..and writing words that are designed to be spoken out aloud..(blame bfm 4 that..)

                  ..a bit of a shocker for traditionalists..eh..?

                  ..that throwing all the rules out the window..

                  ..but if you like..

                  ..you can run with the junkie-reason..

                  ..and really..that moniker you have chosen is a contradiction..eh..?

                  ..’cos you really are one of those traditionalists..eh..?

                  ..wot with yr clinging to the wreckage of capital letters..

                  ..eh..?

                  ..phillip ure..

                • weka

                  “Did your former junkie days also have an effect on your ability to construct sentences?”

                  How about first you explain to the rest of us why you have such prejudicial and dickhead views on drug addicts?

                  • TheContrarian

                    I have no prejudicial views towards drug addicts. I’m making fun of his syntax, not his former drug abuse. What do I care what he did with himself in the past or the future.

                    Asshole.

                    • weka

                      I don’t believe you. Either you think there is something wrong with being and addict and/or that being an addict = x,y,z, or you are moron. How can inferring that being a former junkie makes one stupid when it comes to English grammar not be a comment on that person’s past?

                    • TheContrarian

                      Ok don’t believe me.

                    • weka

                      Ok, ignore my argument and I’ll just assume you are both bigoted and stupid.

                    • TheContrarian

                      Whatever suits you.

                • Foreign Waka

                  If you really are inclined to help you first have to stop judging.

                • Murray Olsen

                  My former junkie days had no discernible effect on my ability to construct sentences, nor on my ability to solve differential equations. Your constant harping, on the other hand, has quite an effect on my ability to see good in all people.

          • Murray Olsen 1.1.2.2.3

            If a person is in pain for whatever reason and finds that smoking a joint every now and then, or drinking cannabis tea, helps them, why should the medical profession or law enforcement even be involved?

            I take morphine every day quite legally and don’t like the effects of cannabis on my thinking, so I don’t smoke it. There are people who have the opposite experience. Bloody hell, let them light up.

      • phillip ure 1.1.3

        @ nthshore doc..

        ..of course this story is just one thread in a yarn of investigations into the health benefit possibilities of/from cannabis..

        ..and a manifestation of the madness that is prohibition..

        ..is that illegality has stopped all such research for decades..

        ..that has now changed..

        ..and so yes..it is early days..

        ..but many researchers are excited about what they are finding..

        ..with the above story just the latest in a litany..

        ..phillip ure..

        • northshoredoc 1.1.3.1

          Oh there’s a bit going on Phil – early days yet and certainly no cause to think that it will useful beyond the analgesic and and anticachexic effects.

          http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page5

          I tend to get a bit annoyed with posts like your first one regarding leukaemia as it is misleading in the extreme a bit like the pharma company who sold few million in mussel extract a few years back after misleading items suggesting it was useful for cancer and then got slapped with a wetbusticket 40k fine.

          • phillip ure 1.1.3.1.1

            @ northshoredoc….’annoyed’..?..really..?

            ..are you suggesting all that research currently going on is a fools’ errand..?

            ..and if a doc..are you a cancer-treatment specialist..?

            ..or a g.p..?

            ..(just trying to get yr informed-opinion into some kinda context..eh..?..)

            ..and why not legalise it for those reasons/benefits you cite as being ‘useful’..

            ..’the analgesic and and anticachexic effects.’..?

            ..aren’t they enough to be getting on with ..?

            ..and i will counter yr link..(in which..b.t.w..many/most of the cited references are at least 20 yrs old..with an alarming number dating back to the 70’s..)..

            ..with what i have compiled over more recent times..

            http://whoar.co.nz/?s=cannabis+cancer

            ..fill yer boots..!..eh..?

            ..phillip ure..

      • David H 1.1.4

        Thats cool I’ll just keep taking my ‘medicine’ the same way thanks.

  2. miravox 2

    Not even collateral damage – Assassinated.

    The last time I saw my mother, Momina Bibi, was the evening before Eid al-Adha. She was preparing my children’s clothing and showing them how to make sewaiyaan, a traditional sweet made of milk. She always used to say: the joy of Eid is the excitement it brings to the children.

    Last year, she never had that experience. The next day, 24 October 2012, she was dead, killed by a US drone that rained fire down upon her as she tended her garden.

    • rat in the sun..

      (btw..like the icon..

      ..the similarities are spooky/uncanny..

      ..and that’s on a good day..!..)

      phillip ure..

    • tinfoilhat 3.2

      Can he take the other rat that’s holed up under the desk in the mayor’s office with him ?

      Edit yes I like the icons too – hope it makes for a happier blog !

    • weka 3.3

      “Rat on the run.”

      Or sent packing.

    • wyndham 3.4

      First class material for the American political scene – – – Tea Party probably.

    • Dumrse 3.5

      The real rat will also be on the run before we see too many more sunsets.

    • David H 3.6

      Soon to be joined by Shonky? Then it will be Rats on the run. And I also wonder how many Nats will be buying new suitcases to leave, after the next election, before the vitriol of the country descends upon their heads.

    • chrissy 3.7

      Hope he doesn’t leave an oil slick.

    • Ant 3.8

      So it’s pretty obvious Wewege is the agreed upon scapegoat for the Nat factions.

    • Treetop 3.9

      Sunday Exclusive, will have to wait to see what the rat says.

  3. chrissy 4

    Liked the trailer to 7 Days with David Shearer. (bugger, not again!) Perfect self-deprecation. Very funny. He’s like a different person now.

    • LynWiper 4.1

      Yes, I thought it was a great reintroduction. Excellent use of humour. Well done David Shearer.

  4. richard 5

    Russel Brand’s editorial in the New Statesman (it is very long) –
    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/10/russell-brand-on-revolution

    … and a counter argument, of sorts –
    http://www.salon.com/2013/10/25/i_dont_stand_with_russell_brand_and_neither_should_you/

  5. Steve 6

    The Herald hits the panic button as their finest Jonolists, O’Sullivan and Armstrong, tag team to tell us why Shonkey’s in charge and got options for a win in 2014.

    I can smell the fear.

    • risildowgtn 6.1

      hahahaha and Keys fist is oh so scarey bahahahhahahahaha

    • QoT 6.2

      They have to lay the ground now to make Colin Craig sound palatable to the National voters of the North Shore. “This cup-of-tea candidate won’t make you look like total pawns the way Banks did to your mates in Epsom! Honest!”

  6. Saarbo 7

    National’s LVR policy was always going to have this affect.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11146480

    According to this NZ Herald article, rent in Auckland is going through the roof. So who is this policy (LVR) favouring? Existing house owners but mostly LANDLORDS. This National government is just atrocious, they are really fucking up so much.

    Another major FAIL.

    The answer is clearly a CGT (comprehensive, not half arsed like Australia’s) also taking away the tax deductibility of interest cost on investment houses. And a massive social housing programme focussed on Auckland, this shit that National talk about increasing supply of land will lead to a reduction in the cost of housing is absolute bull shit…greedy land owners will simply not sell as soon as there is a slight reduction in their value of the land.

    • Tat Loo 7.1

      Trying to fit more than 30% of NZ’s population on less than 0.3% of the country’s land area isn’t a great move.

      IMO it’s time for extensive regional development. Let’s get businesses and industry moving to centres like… Whangarei, Rotorua, Napier/Hastings, New Plymouth, Palmerston North, Blenheim, Timaru, Oamaru, Dunedin, Invercargill.

      • Saarbo 7.1.1

        “Trying to fit more than 30% of NZ’s population on less than 0.3% of the country’s land area isn’t a great move.”

        When its framed like that Tat, it does seem ridiculous. But yes, there is some real need for policy that will rebalance some aspects in our economy and currently house prices in Auckland are way out of whack, in my view New Zealand’s biggest issue because expensive house rentals (which are a function of house prices) are one of the main causes of poverty.

        • Tat Loo 7.1.1.1

          Indeed. Expensive rentals feed the capitalist/banker class by creating a huge updraft from workers’ wages going straight into their pockets.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.2

        IMO it’s time for extensive regional development.

        IMO, one of the biggest drivers of regional development in previous decades was the awards rates as moving out of the big cities wouldn’t result in a massive decrease in income.

    • Lanthanide 7.2

      1. Bring in comprehensive capital gains tax.
      2. Get rid of interest deductibility cost on mortgages for residential rentals (actually probably a very tricky policy to write without causing preserve consequences and incentives)
      3. End government “accommodation supplement”.

      These policies if acted in tandem would probably drop house prices by 20-30% overnight.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.3

      This National government is just atrocious, they are really fucking up so much.

      No they’re not as they’re doing precisely what the rentier class want – upping the incomes of the rentiers without the rentiers having to do any more or even to produce any wealth.

  7. Ennui 8

    Ennui is very much a socialist on social issues….during the work week Ennui manages companies which employ lots of people. This week E was hatching plans for one company to increase jobs from 25 to 35 over the next year despite the hard trading conditions. Thats called creating employment and expanding the tax base. E deals with lots of companies, most are struggling, they don’t pay tax because they don’t make a profit…the tax is raised via PAYE and GST. The owners of these companies get short return for risking their money to create more, in the process of which people get jobs. That risk goes without recognition by most of the workers, most of the contributors to this column.

    The point of the above is this: every other person on this column rants about who the government should be funding, paying, subsidising etc etc etc. Nobody stops to consider where the cash comes from. The assumption is that even if the pot is unlimited that they have a divine right to some part of it.

    This might sound like some RWNJ post: it is not. It merely states how real places of work function, how the real economy is underpinned. before you next demand subsidies for your own interests please take a pause and ask: where will the cash come from? Who pays? What does that mean to other employers and workers?

    • Tat Loo 8.1

      Excellent point Ennui. Where does the money come from? I am an employer myself, although on a smaller scale than you.

      Consider this in terms of the macroeconomy:

      – If the Government is making a surplus, it is taking more money from households and the private sector than it is putting back in, to the dollar.

      – If the Government is making a deficit, it is providing more money to households and the private sector than it is taking out, to the dollar.

      Also:

      There are a huge amount of non-circulating hoarded dollars at the moment. If you think about it as tens of millions of hundred dollar notes sitting in a deep freezer the size of a small warehouse, not getting anything useful done in the community (but helping the banks and wall St out a great deal) you get the idea.

      Last point: only one entity in the world can manufacture valid NZD and issue them – the NZ Government.

    • lprent 8.2

      Ennui: You’ll have probably noticed over time that I’m kind of obsessed with exports – especially ones that have little to do with animals and trees. There is a reason for that.

    • @ ennui..’where does the money come from..?’

      ..a capital gains tax..yes..(and increases in tax paid only for the top earners..not those struggling/juggling in the middle..)

      ..but perhaps the simplest/most straightforward/least painful revenue-gatherer..

      ..is a financial transaction tax..where each inter-bank transaction accrues a miniscule bite on it..with the volume of transactions adding up to a serious amount of money..

      ..and don’t forget that treasury research showed that a financial transaction tax on the banks/ters..

      ..would raise enough revenue to enable us to do away with g.s.t..

      ..whoar..!..eh..?

      ..so the question has to be:..why not..?

      ..hope that helps answer yr ‘where will the money come from?’-question..

      ..phillip ure..

    • Saarbo 8.4

      Yep. I have been looking to purchase a small business over the last year, all of the businesses that I have seen for sale NONE seem to be making decent taxable profits, if any. But GST is a real prick of a tax for small businesses, as small businesses often sell at “price points” that customers are really resistant to pay above, so English’s GST increase in Oct 2010 basically meant that many small businesses have had to absorb the 2.5% GST increase therefore reducing margin and taxable income. So I think your comment shows why Income Tax should be raised before GST…the Top Marginal tax rate needs to be increased and CGT needs to be implemented, it seems that the only houses and farms that are being purchased these days are by people who already own several and dont actually need them.

      Small businesses are really struggling in New Zealand, no doubt about that. Brian Gaynor on RNZ the other day mentioned that people above 55 have a lot of money and people below 30 have plenty of money to spend but most people between these age groups are struggling, I guess this group are trying to raise a family and buy a house.

      This is where DC”s Labour will encourage policy that stimulates the economy (I think he mentioned “new keynesian” in TS once?) I hope (perhaps a decrease in GST would help stimulate at the same time as helping the poor). And also as Iprent points out…we need more exports, but Im happy if it comes from farms as long as it doesn’t stuff up our rivers/environment.

      • greywarbler 8.4.1

        Saarbo
        That’s a good point. I can’t see why anyone thoughtful would consider it good to have a two figure rate, and more to be continually raising the flat tax of GST. Isn’t it collected on all the things that lower income people would put their money towards? Though does that include rent? I don’t pay rent and I’ve forgotten.

        But it’s a great way to get a large proportion back by the government of every $ going into the hand of beneficiaries. Sort of like a flag fall for purchases.

        Why should I have to pay 15% to the government for every step in living and transacting I make with others trying to make a living. Now I do regard that as theft!

        And I first came across it in Switzerland. In the 70’s it was a country so wealthy that they hardly seemed to have any sale for second hand utility goods. They tended to update and store the older still useful ones in the basement. Which most of them had as a design feature.

        They were wealthy enough to pay 15% VAT or gst. We are not. It would be a useful and reasonable tax if it was 5%. More becomes a burden on the lower income who are actually more in outcome mode.

        • Tat Loo 8.4.1.1

          Residential rents are excluded from GST, commercial rents are not.

          Residential electricity and residential phone/internet should also be made GST exclusive.

          GST on rates for properties valued over $1M should be doubled. Also known as a quick and dirty land tax.

        • mikesh 8.4.1.2

          GST is payable on commercial rent, but not on domestic rent. I don’t really know why this is so. It could be argued that rent is an investment return, like interest, but that argument would apply just as much to commercial rent as to domestic.

        • Draco T Bastard 8.4.1.3

          GST needs to be removed as it’s regressive and hurts the poor the most.

          • greywarbler 8.4.1.3.1

            DTB
            +1 (and 15%).

            • Tat Loo (CV) 8.4.1.3.1.1

              GST needs to be reduced to 5.0%, but kept as a mechanism with which the government can control consumption and money supply if necessary, in the future.

        • Foreign Waka 8.4.1.4

          GST is actually a quite unjust tax as it is applied as a one size fits all approach to gather revenue. A person earning $ 15.00 per hour is by far harder hit with GST on every living expense that anyone at $ 30.00. Hence it is inherently unjust. The role of any government, regardless what colors they fly, is the fair and just treatment of its citizen/residents. My feeling is that income tax should be teared in incremental steps – the more you earn, the more tax you pay – and GST reduced (8% ?). I don’t belief that a universal transaction tax will help either as this is just another way to grab money from those who can ill afford this. Most transactions these days are electronic and hence will have the tax deducted straight away. Giving cash deals that can be manipulated in tax terms even more reason to exist.

          • greywarbler 8.4.1.4.1

            Foreign Waka I like your joke about tax being teared, not tiered. 😀

            • Foreign Waka 8.4.1.4.1.1

              sorry, it must have brought tears to my eyes when I wrote this. Of cause it should read tiered. Thanks 🙂

        • Saarbo 8.4.1.5

          Yes Greywarbler, There have been a number of suggestion that we need to put the GST rate up to 17.5% to deal with our aging population http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1102/S00020/threat-of-175-gst-sickening.htm . One of the reason I understand that Treasury like GSt is that they believe that it is difficult to avoid paying, which is incredibly naive…there are plenty of people dealing in cash deals to avoid gst. I reckon it should be 10% at the most. I understand that GST makes up $15 billion of tax revenue, so if it was reduced to 10% then the Govt would have to find around $5 billion from other sources….its a really horrible tax in my view, it amazes me that treasury and other economic commentators often talk about raising it more.

          • Draco T Bastard 8.4.1.5.1

            One of the reason I understand that Treasury like GSt is that they believe that it is difficult to avoid paying,

            The only reason Treasury (and the RWNJs) like it is because it means that taxes don’t have to be put up on the rich.

          • greywarbler 8.4.1.5.2

            Saarbo
            Thanks interesting. This business about Treasury wanting things simpler. Its such an oxymoron when you think that computers are supposed to be great because it makes calculation and number crunching simpler, so why Treasury bothers about simpler as if we have rows of clerks perched at desks with quill pens.

            It’s just bloody laziness and poverty of mind. It’s the same thinking that wants to introduce flat tax rather than have progressive as needed. It’s the same sort of thinking that won’t be bothered with tax tables where wage tax is calculated from different columns, used to be general and then for people with dependent children, F1, F2, F3 which I think was where the tax breaks stopped.

            More help for larger families might then have involved applying for a state house to help with their care. A change in this method of up-front tax breaks had been replaced by special help for working families which gets a hostile reaction from members of society who view themselves as self-generated special treasures to the world now they have landed. Other babies and little ones can go jump. If it was Treasury that acrtivated the tax changes – they lack common sense. Call in a child of five (G.Marx) or Peter Dunne (interchangeable).

            (Referring to families, I am listening to Radionz 11.12 Paul Ehrlich – Predicting Collapse on Radionz saying that modern people who love children choose to have small families, not large ones. They care about the type of future their children will have by joining with others in limiting the overpopulation we already have.)

          • Rogue Trooper 8.4.1.5.3

            Yes, this Saarbo

    • Draco T Bastard 8.5

      Nobody stops to consider where the cash comes from.

      Actually, I’ve considered that for quite some time and have said on numerous occasions (another time down thread) that we need to stop the cash coming from the private banks bearing interest and that it should come from government without interest.

      The assumption is that even if the pot is unlimited that they have a divine right to some part of it.

      They do. It is, after all, the peoples economy and their resources being used.

      It merely states how real places of work function, how the real economy is underpinned.

      It represents how the present system works. There’s one thing wrong with that – the present system doesn’t work and thus it needs to be changed.

  8. BLiP 9

    [sigh] . . . another John Key lie. He told Failfax that the tip off regarding Len Brown’s affair was just Mark Mitchell gossiping at a cocktail party. Turns out, that’s not true. According to the now sorrowful Penny Webster . . .

    . . . the comment Mr Mitchell made to her was not at a cocktail party or as part of idle gossip.

    “I was in a business meeting with Mark over electoral/council matters when our conversation turned to local government elections and the mayoral campaign.

    “Mark made a passing comment, something like ‘scuttlebutt floating around for a while about the mayor having a skeleton in his closet; if there is a skeleton I hope that his wife and children know because families are always the victims in these sort of things’.

    I laughed, saying, ‘I’m sure it isn’t correct,’ and he agreed with me . . .

    . . . when lies designed to distance National Ltd™ from the attempted blackmail of Len Brown come straight from the top and, now, involve public apologies for even involving a National Ltd™ MP, my spidey senses start tingling. The New Zealand Fox News Herald Sunday paper apparently has an interview with Luigi Weewedgie; it will be interesting to see if the distancing efforts are carried through there as well.

    • grumpy 9.1

      Good on Penny for apologising…..

    • chris73 9.2

      So we’ll completely ignores the lefts (well mainly Lens highly paid spin doctors) attempts to paint this as a right-wing conspiracy then? Good to know

    • Not a PS Staffer 9.3

      Mark Mitchell, MP for North Shore, is a former NZ Policeman who..

      “launched an international business career which included the start-up of my own company specialising in hostage rescue, supply chain security and risk management. Working closely with the World Economic Forum, I helped to establish Logistic Emergency Response Teams…. ”
      see http://www.markmitchell.co.nz/mark-mitchell-profile.html

      Mitchell’s father-in-law Frank Gill was a National Party North Shore MP as well as being a minister and ambasador to Washington.
      Mitchell is a well integrated into the National Party real power structures. Mitchell is also well integrated into the Special Services network, the Police and the Intelligence Services.

      Mark Mitchell knew about the Len Brown affair because there was a professional project to displace Len that went beyond the Palino/Slater/Wewege amateurs.

      • chris73 9.3.1

        Nope I guess the conspiracy is still strong

        • BLiP 9.3.1.1

          Did John Key lie about how the information got to Len Brown . . . Yes or No?

          • Dumrse 9.3.1.1.1

            Sook sook. Nobody gives a shit about your comments. Focus on the message and don’t get hung up how it was delivered. Your post is childish.

      • Bill Drees 9.3.2

        The Nats/Rodney Hide wanted control over Auckland.
        Wellington did not want an independent Auckland.
        Had a Nat stooge like Palino or Williamson won Auckland the new Rail projects would be cancelled or hobbled. Urban sprawl would be encouraged. The Auckland Council would become a tame lapdog for National and Wellington.

        The Council CEO and many of the CCO Boards and C level execs were appointed by National, Rodney Hide and Wellington. They are all for replacement under a Leftish Len and Council.
        There are many powerful people who were disappointed that Len could not be challenged by a credible candidate. The prospect of a damaging scandal was a god-send.

        John Key, for whom Mark Mitchell seconds for the busy neighbouring Helensville MP from time to time, knows more about the plan to displace Len than he is saying.

        • chris73 9.3.2.1

          Yes because the plan was to make Len have numerous affairs, get free or cheap rates from hotels, be a reference for his mistress, send threatening texts, go on record as saying theres nothing else and then go into hiding after the story breaks

          or

          Len can’t keep it in his pants, tells far too many lies and brought it all on himself

          • BLiP 9.3.2.1.1

            Yes because the plan was to make tempt Len into having numerous an affairs, enabled by mates at SkyCity get free or cheap rates from hotels, then set up to be a reference for his mistress, while operatives send threatening texts, while John Key goes on record as saying “there’s nothing” here else to see here, and then go send Luigi into hiding after the story breaks

            FIFY – no charge.

            • tinfoilhat 9.3.2.1.1.1

              Sorry but I’m sticking with the more obvious explanation that a very ordinary mayor who should know better displayed some stunning lack of judgement over a prolonged period the rest is all just a rise show.

        • Olwyn 9.3.2.2

          It does look like that, with first prize being Len’s resignation, and second prize being a Len who is weakened by public scandal, and hence compliant. I personally hope it goes the other way, and that Len seeks to redeem himself by doing battle against them for his city.

          • Draco T Bastard 9.3.2.2.1

            I don’t think Len has been weakened by the affair as most people just don’t care. What has happened is that most people are sickened by the RWNJs poking their nose into other peoples bedrooms.

            • TheContrarian 9.3.2.2.1.1

              “I don’t think Len has been weakened by the affair as most people just don’t care.”

              I wouldn’t be to sure about that. Sure I don’t care, you don’t care and it seems most people here don’t care but I wonder about the left-wing yet socially conservative, religious faction who may have voted because of Brown’s self professed religious values. Something to take into account.

            • QoT 9.3.2.2.1.2

              I think the question isn’t really whether Len has been weakened, as we’re just not in a situation where weakening him crowns another person. The vast majority of left voters aren’t going to defect to Minto or Bright, and the right doesn’t have a solid candidate.

              If there were the option of a by-election with someone right enough for the right and socially liberal enough for a chunk of the left (coughMauriceWilliamsoncough) then it could be a completely different matter.

          • JK 9.3.2.2.2

            Ah ! I think you’ve got it, Olwyn. I’ve been wondering what’s behind it all.
            Mark Mitchell – with his background of security and SIS – would not have deliberately tipped off Penny Webster without some sort of ulterior motive. This way the “real powers” in National give a drubbing to Collins’ mates – Slater, Palino – while at the same time putting Len more firmly in their power. I hope like you, Olwyn, that Len – silly stupid idiot that he’s been – can see he’s also been used by the top Nats, and redeems himself by battling more intensely for his city’s good, than for his own future.

        • Foreign Waka 9.3.2.3

          The sad part about all this is that real people are involved, Mr Brown’s wife and children. I do not belief hat NZlanders are as vulgar as Americans when it comes to revealing and “marketing” affairs hoping for a “Bill Clinton”. The reality is that there should be more focus on the move to divide a country into city states. When I look at your comment, this is already taking place. Back to the times of the Medici then….

      • BLiP 9.3.3

        Mark Mitchell knew about the Len Brown affair because there was a professional project to displace Len that went beyond the Palino/Slater/Wewege amateurs.

        Seems like it. Wewege has got “operative” written all over him. There’s a heap load of cash tied up in Auckland’s assets which, thus far, Len Brown has managed to keep largely intact. Must have been incredibly frustrating for the business elite to have had the carefully laid down plans, as put in place by Rodney Hide for John Banks to deliver, stymied by pesky democracy and some upstart from Manukau. Plenty of incentive to set up a honey-trap.

        • tinfoilhat 9.3.3.1

          I’ve seen some delusional clap trap in my time mostly from those on the right side of the political spectrum but this takes the cake.

          Len is of exactly the same ilk as Hide and Banks – in it for himself and his mates.

      • millsy 9.3.4

        Wing Commander Frank Gill.

        FYI: One of the hardliners in Muldoon’s cabinet I believe..

        • Anne 9.3.4.1

          Air Commodore Frank Gill millsy. I am told he insisted on being called Air Commodore at all times. A leery old goat. How do I know? He tried it on me and no… he got short shrift!

          Paid him back. He rang for a weather forecast one Xmas holiday many years ago. He and Muldoon were off for a summer boat cruise around North Cape. I told them not to go because there was a trop. cyclone moving into the area. They didn’t go. The cyclone trundled into the West Tasman and swiftly petered out which we already knew was going to happen. Gave me a few giggles.

          • Tim 9.3.4.1.1

            Frank Gill ….. I remember how we used to ridicule the guy – including amongst the little Natty Khandallah Woodmancote Road ilk I once had the misfortune of dwelling amongst.

            He was around during suspender-belt Skeith’s reign.
            I have a vague recollection of his being referred to as “Taxi Frank”.

            I could delve further into the annals of the brain, but I think I’d rather go and piss on his grave – so if you could give me directions as to where that is, I’ll remember next time I’m in his vicinity. As I relieve myself, I’ll be confident I’m expressing (figuratively) the feelings of most that ever had anything to do with the prick.
            (I’ve a weak bladder dontcha know – I put it down to being the offspring of the tall story teller of WWII tales).

            It’s a bugger though sometimes. I often wonder about the legacy some of these Nattyists think they’re leaving their offspring (when all/most of their bullshit emerges – as it surely will).

            Simon Bridges …. Paula Bennett … Nucki Kaye?? … Hek Yea! Parata.
            Christ! they’re full of it!.

            Must be a bugger to know that – before you die – your offspring will come to know that you were an utter cunt

      • Anne 9.3.5

        … Mitchell is also well integrated into the Special Services network, the Police and the Intelligence Services.

        Very, very interesting. Thank you Not a PS Staffer. You appear to be an insider (sort of) on the politician in question. Could it be Mark Mitchell was instructed by someone to drop hints to a councillor associated with Len Brown about the impending scandal? If so, we can but speculate as to the reason why…

  9. joe90 10

    Krugman reviews The Climate Casino:

    I enjoyed The Climate Casino, and felt that I learned a lot from it. Yet as I read it, I couldn’t help wondering whom, exactly, the book was written for. It is, after all, a calm, reasoned tract, marshaling the best available scientific and economic evidence on behalf of a pragmatic policy approach. And here’s the thing: just about everyone responsive to that kind of argument already favors strong climate action. It’s the other guys who constitute the problem.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/nov/07/climate-change-gambling-civilization/

    edit: i do like my new avatar – muchly WTF…ish

  10. greywarbler 11

    An idea. For getting the meaning and value of young people, and their parents, thinking and involved in politics. Could work very well in South Auckland.

    This morning 9..30ish on Radionz a biologist, dealing with amphibians, was talking about getting people in Haiti to take more interest in their environment and learn about it and how to preserve it. He referred to one mountain that has more frog types on it than most other places on the planet, and endangered.

    He said they have lots of problems in Haiti and therefore they have not much time to think about such things. And there was not much factual knowledge about frogs. The idea was that frogs could pee or spit on you and you would go blind. So people tended to kill them on sight.

    So the team got an idea for the youngsters to find out information as a project. They would go and observe and were given cameras to get a record of the habits and lifestyle and locations of these frogs and then of course they were all shown to the youngsters and their parents. In the few months before they finished that project the understanding of frogs was wide, the attitude had changed.

    What if there were groups given subjects to cover, with teams who wanted to work together and choose a subject from a set list of aspects of society and be in charge of an inexpensive and appropriate camera? Making films is in. It would be awesome, and great record for family interest, cultural and neighbourhood interest and history, as background for interested local people to work for better conditions along with the children who wanted to participate. So Pacifica would get their children involved early in political forays into policy. Half of that non-voting group there would vanish and would continue to decrease to perhaps an 80/20 swing away from non-voting. Could be done I think.

    • Tat Loo 11.1

      Very nice

      Big societal change for very little money, producing a lot of creativity and community involvement. Win win win.

  11. chris73 12

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11146498

    – Well this seems fair, banned from seeing your own kid without supervision but set to become a teacher…

    • joe90 12.1

      Image, a woman with a troubled past endeavours to put it all behind her with hopes of a better future – the nerve.
      /

      • chris73 12.1.1

        I’m thinking that if shes not allowed unsupervised contact with her own kid then maybe its not a good idea to allow her unsupervised contact with many kids but thats only my opinion of course. I’m sure the parents of kids would be delighted if they were to find out (which of course they won’t)

        • Draco T Bastard 12.1.1.1

          I take it that you didn’t fully read the article and missed this bit:

          Council spokesman Peter Lind said before any teacher was granted registration, they needed to demonstrate they had been satisfactorily trained to teach, were likely to be a satisfactory teacher, were of good character as evidenced by a police check and were fit to be a teacher.

          Seems that she’s not automatically going to become a teacher and, to be honest, all the things that she’s accused of doing are the result of a crashed relationship. It’s more than likely that she’s over them.

    • Rogue Trooper 12.2

      scraping by chris73

    • richard 13.1

      Don’t worry Chris. As we get closer to the election and Fairfax and the Herald get more panicky, there will be lots more of these stories.

    • The Al1en 13.2

      People coming of benefits happens all the time, they’re just usually aren’t accompanied by news articles with judgemental subtexts from paid reporters pushing an agenda.

      Anyway, when the present government gets fu*ked over next year, you’ll see a lot more ‘good news’, as everyone knows there are many less unemployed under a Labour led government.
      That will make you happy too, no? 😉

      • ghostrider888 13.2.1

        Cor Blimey!

        • The Al1en 13.2.1.1

          It’s a fair cop, guvnor. Given how unemployment reached historic highs under national from the historic lows under the last Labour government, you’d think righties, who love to moan about job seekers, would be sworn socialists by now and eager to change leadership at a moments notice.

          I’m guessing many aren’t really interested in reducing unemployment at all, and enjoy the easy meat, beat up scapegoating instead.

    • Kevin Welsh 13.3

      Bet we don’t see a story of a reformed tax dodger though…

  12. Morrissey 14

    Crazy-ass predictions that make no sense
    No.1: TE REO PUTAKE

    My team has trawled the internet in search of the millennium’s maddest, most moronic statements. We’re kicking off with a real doozy. Enjoy….

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    The NRL will be expanding to WA and they will make it work.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    —–Hapless Standardista Te Reo Putake tapped that out on one miserable Wednesday morning in August 2012. It has not yet been ascertained what hallucinogenic substance, if any, was responsible for that minor classic.

    Open mike 01/08/2012

    Crazy-ass predictions that make no sense is a series devoted to the deluded, the dull, and the dimwitted. Comments, suggestions and submissions for the series will be gratefully received.

    • chris73 14.1

      Did you make a note of this post to reference at a later date or just go back through the archives until you found something?

      • Morrissey 14.1.1

        Did you make a note of this post to reference at a later date or just go back through the archives until you found something?

        I have a long memory. The other day, my old friend swam into my consciousness for some reason, and due to some untraceable series of synaptic connections, I recalled he had made a bizarre statement about the NRL. A quick boolean exercise soon found the offending statement. That’s the thing with the internet: as poor John Palino is finding out, whatever foolish or knavish message you post, tweet, reddit or email, it will come back to haunt you.

      • Te Reo Putake 14.1.2

        He’s a stalker, Chris. Fixated on me for what feels like years now. I suppose its a step up from his earlier efforts on other forums where he used to stalk himself under a variety of pseudonyms. Perhaps the meds are finally kicking in?

        The funny thing about this post is that my prediction remains as true today as it was last year. The Pirates (for that is the name of the team) have already been formed. The NRL will look at confirming expansion post season next year and the two teams likely to be added in season 2017 are the Pirates and the provisionally named Brisbane Bombers. Though the latter is under pressure from a bid from the Central Coast that is extremely popular with fans across Oz.

        Anyhoo, just another bit of Breen bullshit. Nothing to worry about, really.

        • ghostrider888 14.1.2.1

          Weapon of Choice Slim.

        • Morrissey 14.1.2.2

          He’s a stalker, Chris. Fixated on me for what feels like years now.

          Oy vey! What rich irony coming from someone whose entire raison d’être seems to be the stalking of this writer, i.e., moi.

          I suppose its a step up from his earlier efforts on other forums [sic] where he used to stalk himself under a variety of pseudonyms.

          Oh? Could you provide some evidence to back up that remarkable allegation? I would note that you have already been burned on this forum, earning a stern warning from the headmaster Mr. Prent, after you had foolishly insinuated I was another poster.

          Perhaps the meds are finally kicking in?

          Oy vey! Can we work on the jokes, old buddy? You’re not achieving ANY cut-through at the moment.

          The funny thing about this post is that my prediction remains as true today as it was last year. The Pirates (for that is the name of the team) have already been formed. The NRL will look at confirming expansion post season next year and the two teams likely to be added in season 2017 are the Pirates and the provisionally named Brisbane Bombers. Though the latter is under pressure from a bid from the Central Coast that is extremely popular with fans across Oz.

          We look forward to the Perth Pirates taking Perth by storm. One thing is for sure if they DO get off the ground (something that NRL players rarely have to do, by the way) is that tickets will be easy to come by.

          Anyhoo, just another bit of Breen bullshit. Nothing to worry about, really.

          Hmmmmm. Judging by how exercised you are over this, I’d say you were more than a little worried.

          • Lanthanide 14.1.2.2.1

            🙄

            • Morrissey 14.1.2.2.1.1

              Lanthanide, your inability to formulate a coherent reply comes out again, I see. Are you really that hopeless? No wonder you sprang to the defence of poor Hekia Parata when I outed her all that time ago; you were identifying with her inarticulateness as much as her crazy message.

              Hey, Lanthanide, instead of hanging around our minor squabbles, shouldn’t you be hard at work trying to convince us why this morning’s tsunami in Fukushima poses no dangers? No dangers at all?

              Like you did last time.

          • Te Reo Putake 14.1.2.2.2

            Knock yourself out, saddo:

            http://nz.general.narkive.com/gJVa8B9c/public-notice-morrissey-breen-is-still-banned

            “One thing is for sure if they DO get off the ground (something that NRL players rarely have to do, by the way):…”

            Jumping occurs with monotonous regularity in league. About the fifth tackle of every second set, by my count. The other sets end in grubbers.

            Then there’s this collection which includes plenty more of the jumping you’ve apparently never spotted:

            Anyhoo, hope the first link is a suitable aid to your arvo’s onanistic delights.. I’m off to finish the lawns. Daisies don’t cut themselves, y’know.

            • Morrissey 14.1.2.2.2.1

              It just gets better! Look what our friend has written….

              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

              “Jumping occurs with monotonous regularity in league.”

              * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

              I don’t know if that howler is a reflection on your honesty or your perception or your state of mind, or all three.

              What on earth are you going to say next? “Try-scoring occurs with monotonous regularity in cricket”? “Wimbledon AFC looking good to win this year’s European Champions League”? “Jumping occurs with monotonous regularity in ice hockey”?

              Any or all of those would make more sense than your classic.

            • Morrissey 14.1.2.2.2.2

              Jumping occurs with monotonous regularity in league. :rolleyes: About the fifth tackle of every second set, by my count. The other sets end in grubbers.

              In that entire highlights reel, there were three, maybe four, modest attempts at jumping, not one of them contested.

              Then there’s this collection which includes plenty more of the jumping you’ve apparently never spotted:

              Citing that ground-hugging action as evidence of “plenty of jumping” is kind of like citing THIS as evidence of “plenty of finesse”….

    • richard 14.2

      Not so sure about your assertion that the NRL won’t be expanding to WA …
      http://www.nrl.com/bulldogs-to-bring-nrl-game-to-perth/tabid/10874/newsid/75154/default.aspx

      • Morrissey 14.2.1

        Oh sure, they play the odd game there, but the NRL has no hope of establishing itself in Perth. There’s too much competition from Australian football (two professional teams, one of which played in the AFL grand final last month), rugby (Go the Force!) and soccer.

        • Te Reo Putake 14.2.1.1

          There’s only one Perth team in the AFL, Moz. In this year’s AFL Grand Final, Hawthorn defeated the team from the city of Fremantle.

          You really must try harder, try hard.

          • Morrissey 14.2.1.1.1

            There’s only one Perth team in the AFL, Moz. In this year’s AFL Grand Final, Hawthorn defeated the team from the city of Fremantle.

            Okay, in the same way Counties-Manukau (South Auckland) is not really in Auckland, Port Adelaide is not really in Adelaide, Brooklyn is not really in New York, Salford is not really in Manchester and Everton is not really in Liverpool. You’ve got it on a technicality, my friend. Props to you!

            You really must try harder, try hard.

            Good one! I see what you’ve done there….

  13. captain hook 15

    Was very disturbed at the level of debate over the Meridian sale.
    for all the dummies out there the price wan’t really the issue.
    That was then and now the lucky buyers can sit back and enjoy the revenue stream for the rest of their lives.
    nice for some.

    • Tat Loo 15.1

      That was then and now the lucky buyers can sit back and enjoy the revenue stream for the rest of their lives.

      Hmmmmm only if their remaining lives are just 3-6 years long…

  14. Draco T Bastard 16

    1764 – Benjamin Franklin is asked by officials of the Bank of England to explain the prosperity of the colonies in America. He replies,
    “That is simple. In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay no one.”
    As a result of Franklin’s statement, the British Parliament hurriedly passed the Currency Act of 1764. This prohibited colonial officials from issuing their own money and ordered them to pay all future taxes in gold or silver coins.Referring to after this act was passed, Franklin would state the following in his autobiography, “In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the colonies were filled with the unemployed…

    David Cunliffe has already said that he won’t be changing the banking system and so there’s no chance that he will be making life better as it really is the change that needs to be done before all other changes that will bring about prosperity for all.

    • Tat Loo 16.1

      DTB

      What happened to the value of Colonial Scrip, and to the Colonial economy as a whole, when the foreign bankers demanded that remittances to them were made only in gold or silver?

      I’m guessing that Cunliffe is well aware of that piece of history too.

      – CV.

      • Draco T Bastard 16.1.1

        Damn, fucked up the link: Here:

        As to what happened: Colonial scrip was made illegal crashing the economy and creating poverty all so the banksters could have more.

        • Tat Loo (CV) 16.1.1.1

          Yes. And they could do it again. So it’s a pretty good idea to tread very carefully re: the international banking system.

          • Draco T Bastard 16.1.1.1.1

            Yes. And they could do it again.

            Only if we let them which is why I’d change the system via referenda. If they tried to change it back afterwards then we’d know that they were working against democracy.

            • Tat Loo (CV) 16.1.1.1.1.1

              That knowledge is fine, but it won’t provide the foreign currency needed to pay our bills for fuel, drugs and critical chemicals/parts/machinery/technology.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Don’t need foreign currency for that. We buy them with our currency and then they can buy what they want of the resources/products we have available. They could even sell it on the Forex to get whatever currency the want at whatever the exchange rate is or they can negotiate.

                See, no banks needed.

    • ghostrider888 16.2

      Day after Day (the show must go in) 😎

    • greywarbler 16.3

      DTB
      Unfortunately the ability to learn, understand and accept lessons from the past are not part of our highly evolved development. In a generation the right wing have been able to change NZs culture and carry out practices that go against the country’s and the people’s interests long term.

      In one generation the knowledge prevailing in the past one has largely gone. Though that knowledge was only partly considered, what was understood has not been passed on through formal education, parental discussion etc.

      So Cunliffe has to get in with the promise of finding better ways of running the country and providing the economy with a proper system that suits the people. It’s a big ask without offering something even bigger and more different. Something done long ago that is bound to raise the highest hostility and howling derision from NACTs that would destabilise his procession to PM and scare off the middle classes.

      They think they know a lot and that their putea saved up was a sign of their acumen, mental and physical, but many of them are mere children being handed foil wrapped chocolate and told its gold. They believe in the stability of NACTs and their wisdom, even with the evidence of failure before them. While it can be blamed on some externality NACT followers and most of the middle class as well, will cling onto their allegiance to the present economic system.

      • Draco T Bastard 16.3.1

        Yep, quite aware of that which is why I push for better education of these things but sometimes think that only the complete collapse of society will bring about the needed lessons.

        • Tat Loo (CV) 16.3.1.1

          Complete societal and economic collapse usually brings about far worse forms of rule, and far worse kinds of rulers. Best not go there.

      • Foreign Waka 16.3.2

        Yes, you are right and the ground work is being laid at the education level. Unfortunately, this is not a NZ issue. What makes it so difficult to counter any perceived notion by the generation that we will see govern NZ in 20 years time, is the complete lack of world historical knowledge. Not propaganda, knowledge. I look at people like Mr Bridges and I cringe. A men without a conscience, his only drive is the satisfaction of his vanity and zest for celebrity status. Somebody must have raised this child to become what he is today.

        • Tat Loo (CV) 16.3.2.1

          The neoliberals knew that in order for their project to succeed, they had to enforce a kind of nationwide (global?) political economic amnesia. You can even see it in the USA where the lessons of the New Deal have been thoroughly forgotten/ignored.

          And to dull down curiosity about both the past and the present.

          • Draco T Bastard 16.3.2.1.1

            You can even see it in the USA where the lessons of the New Deal have been thoroughly forgotten/ignored.

            Not forgotten or ignored but overwritten by lies.

  15. aerobubble 17

    We are lied to, instead of dealing with high home prices causing home affordability crisis,
    the government makes high home prices sound cool.

  16. dv 18

    Is this a worry? Seems like a very stupid solution

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/9329188/Arsenic-used-in-home-building-materials

    Kiwi homes are being wrapped with plywood containing an arsenic treatment banned in several overseas countries because of toxicity concerns

    Dr Meriel Watts, who has a PhD in pesticide risk assessment and policy, said CCA-treated timber products posed an “unacceptable risk for public health”, particularly for young children.

    “Basically wrapping homes in CCA-treated plywood is a very bad idea,” she told The Press.

    One senior figure in the Canterbury construction industry, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the sealant properties of some forms of the plywood created dangerously unhealthy homes, trapping toxins and moisture inside.

    “[Timber] workers have to handle it with gloves and full body suits, and we are wrapping our houses with it,” he said.

    “Why on earth are we using these products?”

    Workmate Alistair Young said he knew the timber products were “all full of a lot of s…”.

    “Cutting it all the time, that’s a problem. A lot of guys get headaches cutting it, so we’ve got masks and gloves but I don’t use them.”

  17. joe90 19

    Following minor surgery I had a shit of a time dealing with a staphylococcus infection so news like this is rather alarming.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/hunting-the-nightmare-bacteria/dr-arjun-srinivasan-weve-reached-the-end-of-antibiotics-period/

    • Tat Loo (CV) 19.1

      No money in developing new antibiotics

    • Draco T Bastard 19.2

      That was inevitable. The short life bacteria would evolve faster than what either our own immune system could or the drugs that we produce.

  18. Morrissey 20

    CALLING LANTHANIDE! CALLING LANTHANIDE!
    We need the comfort of your calm and considered words

    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/10/25-4

    Please calm our fears, Lanthanide. What comforting words does the Japanese Government have to say THIS time?

  19. FYI

    In my considered opinion, the 2013 Auckland Mayoral election, was phony as.

    In my considered opinion, those who really run the Auckland region, the (unelected) Committee for Auckland are actually very happy with Mayor Len Brown and Deputy Mayor Penny Hulse.

    But – to keep up appearances that this Auckland Mayoral election was ‘left’ vs ‘right’ – as opposed to the reality of the corporate minority vs the public majority, enter political ‘newby’ / ‘novice’ John Palino, who has never attended a single Council meeting in his life.

    Having the former President of the National Party, John Slater, as his ‘campaign manager'(?), helped to give the Palino camp the ‘right’ stamp of approval (as it were).

    But, in my considered opinion, John Palino was never expected or supposed to win the Auckland Mayoralty.

    Unfortunately, for those who REALLY run Auckland, with the very public revelations of the Len Brown ‘affair’ – things have now got quite ‘out of hand’ (as it were).

    So – how best to deal with this?

    Simple.

    Get an ‘inquiry’ / ‘investigation’ set up, which will slap Len Brown on the hand, censure him, do anything but require him to stand down?

    Look who is organising this ‘inquiry’:

    Doug McKay, CEO of Auckland Council ( a member of the Committee for Auckland), passes the inquiry to Ernst and Young (a member company of the Committee for Auckland).

    Who else is a member of the Committee for Auckland?

    Nigel Morrison, CEO of Sky City.

    (If you don’t believe me – check for yourselves http://www.committeeforauckland.co.nz membership …)

    Where I think Len Brown has ‘crossed the line’, is in the alleged use of a Sky City hotel room (rooms), for his illicit sexual liaison(s), which, in my considered opinion, make him effectively ‘beholden’ and arguably potentially subject to blackmail.

    I note that on 27 June 2013, Len Brown argued in favour of the International Convention Centre (Sky City) Bill (deal), at the Auckland Council Governing Body Meeting.

    I also note that it appears that Auckland Council has failed to do any ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering at Sky City arising from this International Convention Centre (Sky City) Bill (deal).

    That is why, it is my intention on Tuesday 29 October 2013, to formally request the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) to conduct an investigation into these matters.

    High time for a New Zealand Independent Commission Against Corruption, and enforceable ‘Codes of Conduct’ for both local and central government elected representatives?

    I think so.

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption /anti-privatisation’ campaigner
    2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

    • Lanthanide 21.1

      This comes across as a conspiracy theory.

      • tinfoilhat 21.1.1

        Yes but a pretty plausible one.

        Thanks Penny I’d love to see you on the council they wouldn’t know what hit them………… or as they used to say on dads army……

        ‘ they don’t like it up ’em ‘

    • ropata 21.2

      Why write a 10 word comment when you can publish a 1000 word essay?

      PB : shrill, boring, and slightly mental. Avoid

  20. PJ 22

    Just want to see my weekend gravatar…

  21. amirite 23

    Only 800+k mansions being built, no sign of affordable housing anywhere.
    So much for living it to the free market fairy.

  22. Tat Loo (CV) 24

    Would you like a Monsanto Round Up flavoured Milkshake?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/9310148/Tests-show-milk-clear-of-Roundup-used-for-silage

    AgResearch expert Trevor James says the herbicide, commonly known as Roundup, has no affect on animals.

    • Foreign Waka 24.1

      Well then, let him drink up then. Lets see whether he can put the money where the mouth is.

  23. Why have I got a grumpy face icon, and how do i change it.

    • Morrissey 25.1

      If you don’t like it, how about you just stay off this forum?

    • Tat Loo (CV) 25.2

      It’s a pain but you can use another email address as your login. A mod will need to approve your post the first time you use your new email.

      However, I’m under the impression that the system is going back to the old gravatars in a couple of days so you could just wait it out.

    • MrSmith 25.3

      Typical, image is everything a Brett.

    • lprent 25.4

      Because wordpress 3.7 had a wee bug to do with the usual identicon – it wasn’t displaying them, but was displaying an empty head (which is what it still shows at the backend).

      I flipped it to a different type of gravatar at the front end and that worked. After I solved how to set it correctly, I had a whim that said to leave it on the “new” ones for this weekend. sysop’s choice for people using default identicons 😈

      The best way to “fix” it is to upload one or more images to gravatar ( http://en.gravatar.com ) against your email “address”. From memory, the email address doesn’t even have to be valid for the second and subsequent ones on an account.

      The image you choose can be uploaded from anything. Most people just put a query into google, select image(s), save them to their hard disk and then upload them. Personally I use gimp ( http://www.gimp.org/ ) to make mine unique.

      The image will then show on most wordpress (and blogger? and others?) websites whenever you use that email “address”

      I shunt my image on all my social media including facebook etc

      BTW: I thought that the “grumpy face icon” suited you..

  24. karol 26

    An unemployed (or possibly about to be unemployed) used car salesman, auditioning for a role on the Shopping Channel. Selling a fish infectif, an upta debt infas chucked ya.

    Sorry. No call back.

    And I thought Shearer had poor delivery. Follow the punctuation, buddy. And don’t stop when the line on the cue card ends… read on to the next line without missing a beat.

    • Lanthanide 26.1

      Wow, that’s abysmal.

      He clearly is reading the text for the first time. So lazy!

      • Tat Loo (CV) 26.1.1

        Check out the left-to-right shuffling of his eyes as he reads the words. *Groan*.

      • Anne 26.1.2

        No, it’s not the first time Lanthanide. He’s been practising his elocution in front of a mirror. You can tell by the emphasis on some of the words. What a dick! I used to talk like that when I was a kid practising my poetry reading in front of a mirror. Fancied myself as being good at it… and I fancied myself.

    • Draco T Bastard 26.2

      Investing smart in infrastructure

      The ultrafast broadband project is the proof that privatisation of infrastructure doesn’t work. If we hadn’t privatised Telecom we wouldn’t have to be forking billions of taxpayer dollars to get Telecom to what needs to be done because it would have been done already.

      • TheContrarian 26.2.1

        We have been over this before Draco – it isn’t proof of anything outside of proof positive of what you think might have happened if what Draco thinks would have happened happened.

  25. Anne 27

    …what he has shown us over the last few years has exposed him as being ‘emotionally, spiritually and compassionately unintelligent.

    Good comments Vanessa. Of course that is an apt description of most right-wingers. That is why they are right-wingers. They have little to no empathy for people outside their own self serving circles. They are spiritually barren – especially the conservative rump church goers like Colin Craig. Their thinking processes are simplistic and almost philistine in nature. Here’s an example:

    was reading a profile of this Nat MP, Mark Mitchell – the one who leaked the Brown scandal to councillor, Penny Webster and who apparently has close ties to the police, defence force and our intelligence agencies. In his own words “I’m passionate about law and order. I just want to see the bad ones locked up”. That no doubt includes climatological scientists, so-called tree huggers and anyone who is associated with that subversive organisation called Greenpeace. And one of the most primeval of all of them is that monkey the Aussies have just elected as their prime minister. Despite the rapidly increasing size and frequency of the bush fires etc., he still scoffs at and denies the overwhelming evidence of Global Warming/Climate Change.

    These are the real bad ones. The ones who should be locked up and throw away their keys.

    [lprent: shunted to OpenMike as some rich moron thinks that they can read science and has therefore gone quite off topic… ]

    • rich the other 27.1

      Anne,
      Do you still seriously believe in global warming ??
      Fact , no temperature increase in the last 15 years , when is it going to start again, 5,15, 50 , 500, or 5million years ????????.
      Wake up , it’s a con which has become political not factual .
      Lucy is a real example of the delusional green brigade.
      You have got to hand it to green peace , they have her fooled and are happy to take advantage of her falling profile, with a bit of luck they will con her into making a protest Russia.
      Throw away the key.

      • lprent 27.1.1

        Always nice to meet rich idiots like you who don’t understand statistics… They have the generic name of “suckers” or “marks”.

      • Tat Loo (CV) 27.1.2

        NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record.

        Question for rich the other: are the years 2005 and 2010 (the hottest years on record according to NASA) within “the last 15 years”?

        Supplementary: do you even give a shit, if they are?

        http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-temps.html

        • rich the other 27.1.2.1

          Tat loo
          So what you are saying is the 2000 IPCC page report on this con is wrong , the 15 years of NO warming is their figure , the actual truth is 18yrs but we won’t quibble over 3yrs.
          This topic has become highly political because some governments around the world have been completely fooled and their reputations are at stake.
          Lucy might like to make a movie on the topic , perhaps the title should be [ The Greatest Con on Earth ] and may I suggest she asks Joyce for a SUBSIDY which would be funded from tax from workers pay packets.

          • lprent 27.1.2.1.1

            Have you looked at the summary figures for ocean warming?

            Actually – strike that. We know that you are merely repeating some other moron and haven’t bothered to read the report.

            Perhaps you could tell us what the IPCC found for heat storage in the oceans over the last 15 years? Possibly what the heat storage capacity of salt water is compared to seal level air? In fact demonstrate ANY ability to read and understand the IPCC report section one?

            You really are a wanker too incapable of doing your own work. You just echo the strokes for some other fool.

            silly puppet..

          • Tat Loo (CV) 27.1.2.1.2

            So what you are saying is the 2000 IPCC page report on this con is wrong , the 15 years of NO warming is their figure

            NASA does the business, my man. Remote sensing is what they do. One good thing about having an active superpower in the world. So let’s run the quote again- with just one exception, the 9 warmest years in the 132 year record have happened since 2000.

            Seems pretty definitive to me.

    • Rogue Trooper 27.2

      Beautiful prose Anne

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Talking Freer Lives: a Marxist gender-critical perspective from Australia
    Among the great new bunch of political friends we have been making recently is the excellent Australian-based Marxist gender-critical site, Freer Lives.  So we asked the comrade who set up that blog to write something for Redline on the blog, himself, his analysis of the rise of gender politics and ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Government spin accepted by union leadership
    by Don Franks  The Auckland City Mission is struggling with a 40 percent increase in demand for food parcels this year. A total of 23,020 were needed by June. Last month Missioner Chris Farrelly told the Herald the “cupboards are bare” and without an emergency food drive, he can’t see ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Forbidden Thoughts
    by The Council of Disobedient Women   Massey Wellington Student Association had a sit-in today. Imagine a sit-in. On a campus. Against a women’s rights meeting. Did the ’60s really happen or did we fucking dream it? They gathered in the student square, an echo chamber. Sitting on soft pillows ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Much love to my loyal Ukrainian readership
    For some reasons, my post about the mystery message from inside the Downing Street bunker seemed to catch people's attention.  Quite a lot of hits from NZ (unsurprisingly) and the USA (a bit more puzzlingly, but hi there, USAians!!) and 76 views from the Ukraine.I've celebrated my Ukrainian readers in ...
    1 week ago
  • Another day of bonkers GNUmours (again, sorry)
    First, almost a score of Labour MPs seem to have sent a letter to the EU basically begging them to accept a deal - any deal - just so Britain can get the Heck on with Brexiting instead of being trapped in limbo:
    To avoid no deal, deliver on the ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour vs working class immigrants – again!
    by Phil Duncan In 2016 the National-led government suspended the Parent Visa Category, through which migrants were able to bring their parents into New Zealand.  Since then over 5,700 people have been in immigration limbo, stuck on the visa wait list. Labour is now bringing back the scheme.  Well, sort ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women press statement: on Massey University and Feminism 2020
    The following was released yesterday (Tues, October 8) by the women’s liberation organisation Speak Up for Women. On 23 September Speak Up For Women announced that we would be holding an event at the Massey University Theaterette in Wellington. The event is called Feminism 2020. The intention of the event ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Farmers support dirty rivers
    The government is currently consulting on plans to improve freshwater quality. So naturally, farmers oppose it:South Taranaki farmers are preparing to fight proposed national freshwater changes that some fear will bankrupt them. The Government's proposed National Environment Standard on Freshwater Management, released in September, rated the Waingongoro River as one ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No-one cares about local government
    Yesterday was the last day for (reliably) posting your vote away in local body elections. Turnouts are mostly much lower than the equivalent time last year (Palmerston North is down 2.3%), and so naturally people are pushing their online-voting snake oil again. Because the online census worked so well, lets ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The political ghosts of eugenics may matter more than the genetic
    This essay, on the political legacy of the eugenics movement, by Kenan Malik was originally published in the Observer on 6 October 2019, under the headline ‘The spirit of eugenics is still with us, as immigrants know to their cost’. Birth control. Intelligence tests. Town planning. Immigration controls. It’s striking how ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • “Surplus” again
    Another year, and the government has announced another enormous government "surplus". And just like last year, its nothing of the sort. When we have people homeless and sick and hungry, when we have schools and hospitals still falling down, when we have underpaid public servants and infrastucture unmaintained or unbuilt, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Inside the Downing Street bunker
    James Forsyth at The Spectator (I know, I know) has tapped one of his contacts inside Number Ten for an insight into the Johnson administration's thinking and strategy.It is fascinating, unsettling and quite, quite mad.  Some key points:Negotiations have stalled and the Johnson administration are keen to blame the EU: ...
    1 week ago
  • Taking Control Of The Nation’s Story.
    Fatal Contact: With the arrival of captain James Cook in October 1769, the islands of what would become New Zealand ceased to be the preserve of Polynesian navigators and settlers and became a part of both the world’s map and the world’s history.THE MAORI NATIONALIST assault upon the historical meaning ...
    1 week ago
  • Are GNUs extinct?
    Another round of tactical talks about forming a Government of National Unity have come to nothing with the Liberal Democrats still refusing countenance putting Jeremy Corbyn into Downing Street:Opposition talks on Monday made little headway over when to try and vote down Boris Johnson's government and who might succeed him as ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour chickens out again
    When the government was elected, it promised to lead the way on electric vehicles, and specifically to make the government vehicle fleet emissions-free where-practicable by 2025.They lied:There are 15,473 vehicles in the government fleet and only 78 are electric. When the coalition Government came into power in late 2017, the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Transgender extremism, violence at work against feminist meeting at British Labour Party conference
    by Nick Rogers The debate around the meaning of sex and gender made an appearance at this year’s British Labour Party conference in Brighton. Women’s Place UK – an organisation that questions the demand that biological males who self-identify as woman should have access to women’s spaces, to all-women shortlists, ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Rebelling in Wellington
    Yesterday I went down to Wellington to participate in the Extinction Rebellion protest. Its part of the latest global wave of XR actions, with actions happening all over the world. Some of those protests are massively disruptive: in Canada, XR is blocking major bridges, stopping people from getting to work. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • ‘The Workshop’ – Report: Talking about Poverty and Welfare Reform: A Guide to Strategies that ...
    The Workshop is a charitable trust for public good. The Workshop undertake research to find ways of communicating that will build support for the solutions that work to solve complex social and environmental problems. See their Report on Talking about Poverty and Welfare Reform below. ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • Exclusive language
    What is language? We generally assume that it a facility unique to humans, allowing us to share what’s in and on our minds. We can tell of our plans, our past exploits, our knowledge. It also allows us to lie. And yet there are vast numbers of people we can’t ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Corballis
    1 week ago
  • April 2018 – Submission to the NZ Govt Tax Working Group
    You can read our submission HERE ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • 2018 – Submission to the NZ Government Tax Working Group
    Read our submission here ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    1 week ago
  • Guardian: Poll shows DISASTER for Corbyn and the End of Times
    The Guardian - ever eager to forewarn of doom and disaster on the left - are leading with a new poll from Opinium, which puts the Conservatives 15% clear of Labour.Con 38% +2Lab 23% -1Lib Dem 15% -5Brexit 12% +1Green 4% +2This isn't good news, and it would be very ...
    2 weeks ago
  • How prostitution became the world’s most modern profession
    Being and Being Bought (Spinifex Press, 2013) by Kajsa Ekis Ekman  A synopsis and commentary of Chapters 1-2 by Daphna Whitmore Ekman, a Swedish journalist and critic, brings together a Marxist and feminist analysis of prostitution and surrogacy in this groundbreaking book She opens the discussion with a definition of ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Clever legal fellow on Scottish challenge to Brexit
    I make no claims to having much legal knowledge,  so I defer to those trained in this area.I am very much enjoying this twitter stream from m'learned friend in Edinburgh, deciphering the legal arguments around the Scottish court challenge to Boris Johnson, based on the charmingly obscure principle of Nobile ...
    2 weeks ago
  • An Open Letter From Closed Minds.
    Ivory Folly? The University of Auckland’s Vice-Chancellor, Professor Stuart McCutcheon, upheld the right of the radical nationalist group, Action Zealandia to exercise their freedom of speech – not matter how distasteful that speech might be. A wiser community of students and scholars would have nodded their agreement and moved on. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Extinction Rebellion members want to “eat babies”
    If you are not convinced terrorist Organisation ‘Extinction Rebellion’ is very, very dangerous – watch this video at one of their recent meetings. Not only is this obviously mentally ill Woman begging the other terrorists to promote killing and “eating” babies and children, if you watch carefully other members nod ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    2 weeks ago

  • Proposals to curb environmental damage help our coasts and the oceans
    Government Ministers today welcomed the release of a marine environment report highlighting the four key issues affecting our oceans, estuaries and coastlines.  The release underlines the importance of government proposals to combat climate pollution, ensure clean freshwater, protect biodiversity, make land use more sustainable, and reduce waste and plastic.    Environment ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago
  • New mental health facility for Waikato
    The Government has approved funding for a new acute mental health facility for Waikato which will provide better care and support to people with mental health and addiction issues. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Health Minister Dr David Clark announced the $100 million project to replace the aging Henry Rongomau ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • 500 new te reo Māori champions in our classrooms
    The Government is making progress on its goal to integrate te reo Māori into education by 2025, with over 500 teachers and support staff already graduating from Te Ahu o te Reo Māori,  Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. Kelvin Davis made the announcement at an awards ceremony in Waikanae today, for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • Minister James Shaw welcomes 2018 Census first release
    Statistics Minister James Shaw has welcomed the first release of 2018 Census data. The first release of data today, 23 September, includes key data on population, regional growth, the number of homes and the size of different ethnic groups in New Zealand. Data from the 2018 Census will support the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Driving transparency, ethics and accountability in government use of algorithms
    Minister for Statistics James Shaw today announced a public consultation on a proposed algorithm charter for government agencies. The charter has been developed by the Government Chief Data Steward in response to growing calls for more transparency in government use of data. Computer algorithms – procedures or formulas for solving ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • New Zealand and the Netherlands working together on climate change
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor, Climate Change Minister James Shaw and visiting Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte co-hosted a business roundtable in Auckland this morning focused on working together to address climate change.  “The Netherlands is an important partner for New Zealand. We share a strong agricultural history. Sustainable agribusiness and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Protecting fairness for workers and businesses
    The Government is taking action to build an inclusive economy where more of us receive our fair share at work and businesses can compete on great products and services, not undercutting wages and conditions, Immigration and Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. Two consultations launched today seek feedback ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago
  • Indigenous Freshwater Fish Bill Passes
    The future for New Zealand’s threatened indigenous freshwater fish looks brighter with the passing of the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill in Parliament today said Minister of Conservation, Eugenie Sage. “Until now, our freshwater fish legislation has been 20 years out of date. We have lacked effective tools to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Kiwis to take part in world’s biggest earthquake drill
    At 1.30pm tomorrow, hundreds of thousands of Kiwis will join about 65 million people around the globe in ShakeOut, the world’s biggest earthquake drill. The annual drill is to remind people of the right action to take during an earthquake which is to Drop, Cover, Hold, and to practise their ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Rising wages and low inflation supporting Kiwis
    Kiwis are benefiting from higher wage growth and low inflation under the Coalition Government. Stats NZ data out today shows the rise in the cost of living remains low, as annual Consumers Price Index (CPI) inflation fell to 1.5% in September from 1.7% in June. “The low inflation comes as ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ economy strong amid global headwinds
    New Zealand’s economic strength and resilience has been recognised in a major update on the state of the global economy. The IMF’s latest World Economic Outlook released overnight shows a reduced global growth forecast over the next two years as issues like the US-China trade war and Brexit take hold. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Keeping New Zealanders safer with better counter-terrorism laws
    Justice Minister Andrew Little has today introduced a new Bill to prevent terrorism and support the de-radicalisation of New Zealanders returning from overseas. The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill gives the New Zealand Police the ability to apply to the High Court to impose control orders on New Zealanders who ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Improved succession and dispute resolution core of Ture Whenua changes
    A Bill that proposes targeted changes to simplify the processes for Māori land owners when engaging with the Māori Land Court has had its First Reading today. “The approach taken by the Government is to ensure that the protection of Māori land remains a priority as we seek to improve ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Speech to CTU Biennial Conference
    Let me first thank all the new unionists and members in the room. There is nothing more important to improving people’s working lives than people making the decision to care, to get on board and help, to take up the reins and get involved. Congratulations to you. You bring the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Minister ensures continued Whenuapai flight operations
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark has signed a certificate exempting the activity of engine testing at Whenuapai Airbase from the Resource Management Act 1991. The Act gives the Minister of Defence the power to exempt activities for the purposes of national security.  The certificate will mean the recent Environment Court ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZ joins Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced New Zealand will join the Coalition of Finance Ministers for Climate Action while attending APEC meetings in Chile. The objective of the 39 member Coalition is to share information and promote action to tackle climate change. It was formed in April this year, in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • CTU speech – DPM
    Ladies and gentlemen, NZCTU President Richard Wagstaff, members of respective unions – thank you for the invitation to speak to you today. This might be preaching to the choir, but the importance of trade unions in New Zealand’s historical arch is difficult to understate. And it is my belief that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Police Association Annual Conference
    "Let’s start by acknowledging that it has been a huge year. " Police Association Annual Conference James Cook Grand Chancellor Hotel Wellington Nau mai, haere mai. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, ka nui te mihi, ki a koutou katoa. President of the Police Association, Chris Cahill; Members of the Association and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New Zealand announces a further P-3 deployment in support of UN sanctions
    Minister of Foreign Affairs Winston Peters and Minister of Defence Ron Mark have announced the New Zealand Government’s decision to again deploy a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K2 (P-3) maritime patrol aircraft to support the implementation of United Nations Security Council (UNSC) resolutions imposing sanctions against North Korea. New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New Zealand deeply concerned at developments in north-east Syria
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters says New Zealand continues to have serious concerns for peace and stability in north-east Syria. “Recent reports that hundreds of ISIS-affiliated families have fled from a camp are deeply concerning from a humanitarian and security perspective”, Mr Peters says. “While we acknowledge Turkey’s domestic security ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government on high alert for stink bugs
    Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor is warning travelling Kiwis to be vigilant as the high-season for the crop-eating brown marmorated stink bug (BMSB) is under way. “We’re on high alert to stop BMSB arriving in NZ. The high season runs until April 30 and we’ve strengthened our measures to stop stink ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Better protections for students in halls of residence
    The Government is moving swiftly to change the law to improve the welfare and pastoral care of students living in university halls of residence and other tertiary hostels. Cabinet has agreed to several changes, including creating a new mandatory Code of Practice that sets out the duty of pastoral care ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New trapping guide for community and expert trappers alike
    The Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage has launched a new comprehensive trapping guide for community trappers to help them protect our native birds, plants and other wildlife, at Zealandia in Wellington today. ‘A practical guide to trapping’, has been developed by the Department of Conservation (DOC), and was launched during ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Widening Access to Contraceptives Welcomed
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter welcomes PHARMAC’s move to improve access to long-acting reversible contraception (LARCs). PHARMAC has today announced it will fund the full cost of Mirena and Jaydess for anyone seeking long term contraception, lifting previous restrictions on access to Mirena. “I welcome women having greater choices ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Major upgrade for Taranaki Base Hospital
    The Government has approved the next stage of a major redevelopment of Taranaki Base Hospital, which will deliver new and improved facilities for patients. Health Minister Dr David Clark has announced details of a $300 million dollar project to build a new East Wing at the New Plymouth hospital. It ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Extra support for rural families
    Extra funding will allow Rural Support Trusts to help farming families, says Minister for Rural Communities and Agriculture Damien O’Connor. “I know that rural families are worried about some of the challenges facing them, including the ongoing uncertainty created by the Mycoplasma bovis outbreak. “Those concerns sit alongside ongoing worries ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Howard Leaque Beekeeper programme graduation
    Thank you for the opportunity to be here to present certificates to the 16 graduates who have completed a beekeeping course delivered by the Howard League.  Let us start by acknowledging Auckland Prison’s Deputy Prison Director Tom Sherlock, and Acting Assistant Regional Commissioner of Corrections Northern Region Scott Walker - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Finance Minister to attend APEC meetings
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson leaves this weekend to attend the APEC Finance Ministers meeting in Santiago, Chile. Discussions between APEC Finance Ministers at the meeting will include the effects of the current global economic uncertainty, risks for APEC economies and sustainable development of the region. While at APEC Grant Robertson ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Pacific languages are a source of strength, they ground us and build confidence
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio says for Pacific people, language can be a source of strength. It can help ground us and give us confidence. When we speak them, our languages provide us with an immediate and intimate access to our identity and our story - and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Major boost to support disabled people in sport and recreation
    The Coalition Government has announced an action plan to improve the wellbeing of disabled New Zealanders by addressing inequalities in play, active recreation and sport. The initiative includes training to develop a workforce that understands the needs of children and young people with a range of impairments, advocacy for fit ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • More prefab homes to be built as red tape cut
    The construction sector is being freed up to allow more homes to be built more quickly as the Government cuts through some of the red tape of the Building Act.  “Every New Zealander deserves a warm, dry, safe home and old inefficiencies in the Building Act make building slow and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Further details of Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall visit to New Zealand
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has welcomed further details on the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall’s visit to New Zealand next month. Their Royal Highnesses will visit New Zealand from 17-23 November – their third joint visit to New Zealand and first in four years. They arrive in Auckland ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • O’Connor in Thailand to push for RCEP deal
    Minister of State for Trade and Export Growth and Minister of Agriculture, Damien O’Connor, heads to Thailand today to attend the final Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) Ministerial meeting, as negotiations enter their final stages. “The RCEP Agreement would anchor New Zealand in a regional agreement that covers 16 countries, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Young Pacific people can access earning and learning opportunities in Hawke’s Bay, Otago and South...
    Pacific young people living in the Hawke’s Bay, Southland and Otago regions will have access to support services that have proved successful in helping young people find new earning and learning opportunities. “Tupu Aotearoa is about changing Pacific young peoples’ lives. Our young people are talented, they are smart, they ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Protecting wellbeing – ACC HQSC Trauma Forum
    Introduction As the Minister for ACC I thank you all for the work that you do supporting New Zealanders in their literally most vulnerable moments. From those who hold people’s lives in their hands, to the people who research technique, technology and trends, your work is highly valued. A special ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • NZ economy in good shape – notes prepared for speeches in Christchurch
    Notes prepared for speeches in Christchurch – Wednesday 9 October 2019 Today’s topic, “trends and opportunities for the New Zealand economy,” is certainly one getting a great deal of commentary at the moment. Looking across the media landscape lately you’ll notice we aren’t the only ones having this discussion. There ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • World Mental Health Day a reminder of the importance of mental health work
    Minister of Health Dr David Clark and Associate Minister of Health Peeni Henare say this year’s World Mental Health Day theme is a reminder of why the Government’s work on mental health is so important. “This year the World Federation for Mental Health has made suicide prevention the main theme ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • Cultural Ministers Meeting
    Associate Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni will represent the government at Australia’s Meeting of Cultural Ministers in Adelaide this week. “This year’s meeting is special because New Zealand is expected to become an International Member of the Meeting of Cultural Ministers at this Australian forum,” Carmel Sepuloni said. “The meeting is an opportunity to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • 608 claims resolved by GCCRS in first year
    The Greater Christchurch Claims Resolution Service has resolved 608 insurance and EQC claims in its first year in operation, Minister Megan Woods has announced. The government service, which celebrates its first birthday today, provides a one stop shop to help Cantabrians still battling to get their homes repaired or rebuilt ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • NZ economy in good shape
    Today’s topic, “trends and opportunities for the New Zealand economy,” is certainly one getting a great deal of commentary at the moment. Looking across the media landscape lately you’ll notice we aren’t the only ones having this discussion. There has been an increasing amount of attention paid to the outlook ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago