We don't get to control the National Party's unacceptably low standards and misapplication of the cabinet manual. I agree Collins ought to be disqualified from ever being any sort of Minister ever again, but I don't see any way we can convince the Nats ...
There are literally people threatening those who want to come back. https://twitter.com/LloydBurr/status/1286079734410022918
It's not mixed up. You're right that matters get more operational closer to the ground, (although it doesn't sound like this person was a ground-level employee) but policy vs operational is the official name in the cabinet manual for what sort of matters ...
I should also point out: I know we live in a small country and a lot of people meet partners at work, but... it is not the primary reason anyone goes to a workplace, and people should respect that, and maintain good professional conduct.
He issued the press release himself, they came to light because journalists did their job and investigated. That false equivalency is a ridiculous stretch, as usual.
I replied to this point elsewhere in the thread, but the relevant factor is that this person was in his managerial sphere of responsibility. Let's say there's an organization with multiple Ministers responsible for it, and ILG manages half of it. As long ...
Not really. In his office means he does operational management as well, but in his department still gives him wide policy control over decisions in their workplace which then all become potentially tainted by whether they were made due to sound policy ...
Not being a direct manager in an operational sense isn't particularly relevant if one is at the top of the policy heirarchy, and all of one's policy decisions can be called into question in the light of an inappropriate relationship. I disagree about "most...
This was my understanding from the very beginning listening to the PM's press conference. It might get fuzzier for you, but this has always been a clear violation of ethical standards in my mind.
No, at different levels is fine so long as they're not above that person in the management heirarchy. I once had an entire team I was in have to be shunted to a different manager one level above my immediate boss when a family member of one of the managers...
Yes, that was my understanding of what was going on, although I wasn't aware their nature might have been as an external contractor or similar. The behaviour is still unsupportable and unethical in that situation though, IMO.
lol please And sure, the media shouldn't harass Faloon's family. I don't think that means they need to harass ILG's too because some of them are so unethical they did it last time, but it's entirely possible they will do it, because some of them have no ...
This is... a little incorrect. There are ethical issues with a relationship with ANYONE in a department whose policy direction a Minister is responsible for, because it becomes untenable to claim that the relationship isn't affecting any policy decisions ...
It's a social and personal matter if ILG behaves unethically in his relationship but it doesn't impact his public role, IMO. There's no issue of professional ethics. But in this case, and in Falloon's case, it has been clear breach of professional conduct ...
I mean, she stole that brand from the Greens, so arguably, it's already contagious.
She said it happened after they were a staffer, but staffers are political employees and are a different thing to departmental employees. That they were also a former staffer of his is just context that establishes a prior professional relationship. I ...
For starters, Section 3.51(c) of the cabinet manual: Avoidance of conflict between public duty and personal interests. Forming a relationship with someone you manage inherently compromises your ability to make decisions about anything related to them, and ...
There is a context of unequal power leveraged against people even perceived as female, (regardless of how they feel about their own gender or sex) yes. That doesn't mean that if I have a female boss and she comes onto me that it's appropriate. It's not, ...
He had a relationship with someone whose department he was responsible for managing, while they were working there. It is an inherent conflict of interest, it is a perceived conflict of interest even if he always made rigorous and fair decisions, and the ...
This isn't sex shaming, though. Every case we've had in the public eye thus far has involved major ethical violations, too. I'm okay with us going after people who can't keep their ethics straight, whether or not an affair is involved.
I thought the PM was pretty clear that the person in question was in one of ILG's departments during the relationship?
It is NOT irrelevant. The standard for Ministers is that they should avoid the perception of corrupt behaviour, not just actual corruption. Being star-struck is fine, but my understanding is that ILG was at the top of their org chart. That's not fine. If ...
Remember, the law technically makes it the Trust's responsibility if a libelous claim is posted here, so this isn't just a matter of moderation policy. You need to have receipts if you want to claim that sort of thing online rn, and the contributors to the...
Sure, that's a reality of how it will be seen by the electorate, and that's likely why he took the "extra" step beyond the PM's requirements of resigning from the Party List. (Frankly IMO, he should have been told he'd be sacked from the Party, too) But if...
I feel more like Ardern is living up to the minimum standards we always should have had and tried to pay lip service to. It's a much better practice, but it makes me sad that this is viewed as exceptional behaviour. This is normal behaviour, it's just the ...
Even if this is its first scalp, it's kinda irrelevant. ILG did this to himself by not behaving ethically, potentially pressuring (or being SEEN as pressuring) someone under his influence into a sexual relationship. I know it's hard to handle power well, ...
My understanding from the PM was that the person was a former staffer who had moved on to one of the departments ILG was responsible for before the affair started? It's still inappropriate and the PM has said it involved inappropriate judgement calls ...
1) It's completely untenable for the Minister of Workplace Relations to leave themselves open to allegations of an improper relationship with someone he's responsible for and is a sacking offense given that it shows he does not believe in the policies he ...
The sad thing is that Smith is essentially the last remaining party elder the Nats have.
To clarify this a bit: Any multi-winner system, even a candidate-based one like Block Vote or STV or RRV, has to worry about how proportional it is to each district that candidates are awarded to, or if there are no districts, to the popular vote or party ...
Note that at 26th on the list, he would have been the 10th elected from the Labour list with the expected electorate wins as of the latest Roy Morgan poll, putting him in a very secure position to be an MP, so this retirement is Huo deciding to or being ...
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