There's much research available on this subject, widely available from the science and medical journals. Go look.
So if we got 2, 3, or even possibly 4 measles vaccine injections in 12 months and still got measles? Is there a problem?
Saying it as I see it. And it's clear to see from the comments @shanreagh consistently puts up.
@robertguyton If I got 3 x polio vaccines in 12 months and still got polio, would it be worth asking questions? There's a problem.
Exactly that, empathy and humility are obviously not your strongest points. Give them a go.
You can either have the passport or money, but you can't have both. Choices to make on both sides (of the coin).
"ie the more of us who are vaccinated the less the virus will spread or have virulence." Widely available statistics evidence available that blows 'your opinion' out of the water... Gibraltar, Spain, Ireland, Denmark, Israel, France, Italy, UAE etc etc.
Empathy and humility are obviously not your strongest points. Give them a go sometime soon
Immunity to propaganda... How do we achieve this?!? God knows we all need it.. Boost away when you find the cure
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/world/omicron-norway-christmas-party.amp.html Oh no, vaccinated only party were at least half catch covid.... But you said. Passports are great for control... Of people
Link away to the doom ahead of every child who doesn't vaccinate....
"The best antibody protection came from a two-dose series of one of the mRNA vaccines" No the best antibody protection (future infections) comes from natural exposure to the virus. Endemic. Plenty of science available on this fact, find your own links.
.... most have big, unsightly lumps on the back of their heads, use kittens as door stops and (gasp) don’t recycle. Should we tolerate them? *sarc Good one Robert.
Next you'll be building the hype about those nasty #antivax people are taking up all the ICU beds!? Or maybe you'll take the hateful angle that non-vaxxed should pay for their treatment (if needed), seeing as though you're at the extreme! Since March 2020 ...
Thank you for providing that link, I hoped you would. For both yourself and @KJT, you need to understand this type of information from the MoH clearly muddies the water and blurs the picture! Can you spot the two very different data fields in the link ...
Maybe a good idea to reinstall all the medical personnel fired under mandates.... As the vax clearly does not stop the new variant. Isn't karma a b*@ch.
Please link to the transparent reporting of covid infected patients in hospital, that gives the full breakdown of 'health status'. You know, one shot, two shots, three shots, no shots (eligible for shots, children and medical exemptions noted separately). ...
@fran so very true! Bill seems to have retained his reason and sanity, thank goodness.
Accepting without question a domestic health opportunity passport to participate in society is not a reasoned decision. Its rooted in fear, anger and hate.... For no good reason.
@KJT pull you head out of your 'something'. Bill is clearly suggesting we need a lot more transparency around reporting. I.e. the MoH reports to the media numbers of people in hospital high care as % with two shots, % with one shot (1 shot categorization ...
.....And we should be able to identify those numbers in the statistics, otherwise it's clearly manipulating the facts. Which the MoH and media are. If for example 40% of those in hospital are vaccinated (eligible) and 60% are non-vaccinated (both eligible ...
To use your own words @weka "This patently ignores (or doesn't understand) what public health is. It's about the collective, not a set of individuals." The collective has endured social harm due to these punitive measures, just because you as an individual...
My apologies. That was incorrect it currently stands at 1.8% from the DHB's. 1.8% too many lost during a pandemic that has been hardly affected NZ for many reasons. We will not know the full impact however of healthcare professionals lost to the imposed ...
'mate' I am very interested in the relative risk. I am not in any way supportive of firing people from their careers, destroying livelihoods and families economically or socially. These passports need to be abolished immediately! And forcing/coercion in ...
I'm not your angry slogan #antivax, I'm vaccinated. Do not just cancel, dismiss and push aside with your angry slogans. Listen and talk about what is happening, because there are some very unusual things going on. Rapid antigen test anyone? Nope, the MoH ...
From the link provided - "Previous studies have shown no difference in viral load between symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals.54, 57 In our study, individuals who did not report symptoms had lower viral loads than symptomatic individuals..... limiting...
Look mate, you can carry on with your beliefs that you're not at risk a d you've reduced others risks because you're vaccinated. I'm vaccinated, and I do not for one second believe I'm a lesser risk to my sister who has Rheumatoid Arthritis, or my elderly ...
Yes no suffering due to the punitive measures enforced to control/reduce the spread of the virus... Yip, no suffering to be found outside death
Brilliant, suicide rate is down to 607 last year. 52 (possible) covid related deaths in NZ and according to Medsafe, another 55 deaths post-vax unlikely related, and another 57 deaths with insufficient data. This is a victory in your mind? I say possible ...
'Which one do you chose" Well, the obvious: those who predominantly are at risk because of age, comorbitities, immunocomprimised etc, their choice to get vaccinated or not. And the same for everyone else, your choice with no coercion or mandates that ...
Try getting a rapid antigen test.... Good luck, it's not possible/available to the general public!!? Only available at present in NZ to medical professionals i.e. Doctors, ambulance etc etc and those who have chosen not to be vaccinated flying or sailing ...
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