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Shame on you

Written By: - Date published: 12:30 pm, November 26th, 2009 - 77 comments
Categories: class war, climate change, maori party, national/act government - Tags: , ,

Never in the history of New Zealand politics has so much taxpayers’ money been hurled into the chasm with such contempt for the poor citizens who will pay billions out of their own dwindling pockets forever while rich polluters wreck the earth with impunity and bask in the profits.

Never in the history of NZ has the importance of our, and the world’s, environment, been casually dismissed with such astonishing alacrity, corporate selfishness and pure f*cking bullsh*t.

Never has the critical advice of the very experts who should guide such economically crucial environmental matters Treasury and the Commissioner for the Environent been suppressed so desperately due to political inconvenience.

Never has the world consensus about the crisis of climate change had its face spat in so ferociously by New Zealand.

Never before has New Zealand laid waste to its rich environmental, tourist and economic reputation with such casual and uninformed recklessness.

Never EVER –  has a minority party betrayed its base like the Maori party has betrayed its voters.

And, of course,  never have so many blatant and provable lies been told by one government in pursuit of such a despicably transparent plot that that was supported by so few and understood by even fewer.

Shame on you National. You will be remembered forever as the government that betrayed your country’s people and hijacked its reputation.

Shame on you John Key. Your legacy has been ruined, after just one year. You will be remembered forever as the Manchurian Candidate of New Zealand politics, the ventriloquist’s dummy whom every one of your puppetmasters had their hand up inside.

 And shame on you Maori Party. You don’t care about your own people. They have enough trouble making ends meet, and you’ve made it harder for all of them (except the lucky, connected few who don’t need the money, but will cream it anyway). Pita and Tariana. You’ve condemned YOUR people to a worse future for the sake of the ‘integrity’ of keeping a ‘promise’ to a bunch of creeps who have exploited and betrayed you since the word go.  Which is like claiming ‘integrity’ because of your newfound loyalty to a scheming, golddigging mistress while your deserving wife weeps in anguish, forgotten and destitute.

National and Maori Party: Your party names will always be associated with the bill that will be your abortive legacy and will hurt this country and the entire world. You will be haunted by this.

 Shame on you.

77 comments on “Shame on you ”

  1. gingercrush 1

    What gutless person wrote this tripe and couldn’t even give us his fake name to go by.

    [lprent: Why would you need it? Just debate the points in the post if you disagree.
    To divert into wanting names is irrelevant and really just shows the paucity of your own opinions. ]

    • Daveo 1.1

      ‘gingercrush’

      • gingercrush 1.1.1

        Yes ok fine. Name: Conrad Lake. Age: 26. Lives in Christchurch.

        My whole point was that this post doesn’t even have a fake name one can attribute it to.

        • snoozer 1.1.1.1

          who gives a toss, gc?

          Look to me like you’re afraid to actually challenge the points made in the post.

          Great post, mysterious stranger!

        • felix 1.1.1.2

          No-one cares about your name, ginge.

          We go by the quality of your argument. And it appears you don’t have one today.

    • Bright Red 1.2

      you’re a pathetic little monkey aren’t you gingercrush.

      you don’t have the brains or the balls to engage in the substance, perhaps there just is no argument to counter what the guest poster writes, so you attack the person.

      Yeah, and I know I am attacking you personally… but what else is there? No substance, no thought, no analysis, just an angry little tool of the capitalist elite.

    • Nick Jolliffe 1.3

      Ginger, I dont know who wrote this (and dont particularly care). What I can say using my own name is that the author is 100% correct. National and the Maori party are a disgrace.

      PS dont bother answering without your real name.

      [lprent: If I see another one of these ‘real name’ conversations, I’ll just start banning left, right, green or centre. It is a stupid tactic that I’m tired of. If people choose to use real names, it is against my advice, and done at their own risk. However it is not a topic of discussion. Argue on the opinions.

      On this site there is exactly one persons name that is required to be visible, that is mine, to register the domain. ]

    • Draco T Bastard 1.4

      The name doesn’t make a difference to the truth and the truth is that National have been lying to us, have passed legislation that will do us harm and have shown themselves to be completely incompetent. All of which our PM is “relaxed” about.

  2. bobo 2

    Hillary Clinton maybe? but yeah the gist of it is true, Nact might be going up on a bonfire if they carry on with slapshit, poorly thought out government once these policies start to bite the general public. Anyone mentioned foreshore lately or is that policy replacement on hold for another year until Nact don’t need the Maori party anymore and discard them faster than a used condom.. that’s if the Maori party hold together that long.

  3. Boris Clarkov 3

    Never in the history of New Zealand politics has so much taxpayers’ money been hurled into the chasm with such contempt

    Surely you’re talking about the last nine years of exorbitant taxation that was entirely flushed down the welfare toilet in order to support the lifestyle choices of the Labour-voting beneficarycriminals.

    Never has the world consensus about the crisis of climate change

    Consensus? Based on scientific data that was intentionally artificial and results which were intentionally obfuscated.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html

    Never EVER – has a minority party betrayed its base like the Maori party has betrayed its voters.

    5th Labour government, that betrayed it’s support base in the tax paying workers of New Zealand, overtaxed them to their knees and flushed the tax take entirely down the welfare toilet, taking the entire country from prosperity into poverty.

    Smoke some more weed hippie, us tax-payers aren’t paying a tithe to the climate-change cult.

    • Daveo 3.1

      Mate – read the post, dude said “minority party”

      • snoozer 3.1.1

        ha! i was going to do a point by point response to Boris but then I thought it would be both more fun and more meaningful to pull my own fingernails.

        • Pascal's bookie 3.1.1.1

          us tax-payers aren’t paying a tithe to the climate-change cult.

          Also, and too, stupid mofo might want to read what the National Party just did.

    • prosaic 3.2

      A trumped-up story about leaked emails (which do nothing in themselves towards refuting the claim that climate change is largely a consequence of human activity) does not alter the scientific consensus.

    • Craig Glen Eden 3.3

      Who let Boris out? Hes a thinker aye!

      Hey Boris have you heard the term white collar criminal? Thought not.

  4. snoozer 4

    i haven’t even seen the right present anything from these emails that is damning. In fact, I haven’t seen any quotes from the emails at all.

    All puff, no substance.

    • Andrei 4.1

      You haven’t read them? And you dismiss them out of hand – that’s very closed minded of you.

      What do you think about scientists pressurizing scientific journals not to publish particular papers?

      What do you think about tit for tat peer reviews of science?

      What do you think about deleting scientific data?

      Its all in there my friend and more in their very own words. And these people custodians of the Global Temperature record as well as IPCC lead authors

      Tsk tsk

      • lprent 4.1.1

        Andrei – to date I haven’t seen anyone come up with anything more than mildly embarrassing about those e-mails. Mainly comments about the authors opinions on other people.

        What I have seen is a lot of misinformed accusations by scientific morons like you. Most of those appear to be related to a completely false view on how science operates. I’d explain, but you really need to get yourself some basic science education first. Otherwise it will just whistle in through one ear and out of the other, which is what usually happens when people explain things to you.

        • Andrei 4.1.1.1

          I see

          Do you think science works best with frank and open discourse, free exchange of data and ideas, with scientists allowing all and sundry to examine their methodologies and test their conclusions independently?

          Or does it work better with a closed clique keeping their data and methodology secret, excluding those with whom they don’t agree and preventing those with whom they don’t agree getting their work published?

          • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1.1

            There’s a difference between free and frank discussion and personal emails.

            • Andrei 4.1.1.1.1.1

              There is also a difference between open discussion of science and the necessity to use the Freedom of Information Act to obtain what should have been accessible to all in the first place.

              And there is certainly a huge problem with deleting scientific data to prevent it being released under the Freedom of Information Act.

            • quenchino 4.1.1.1.1.2

              Who cares . Publish all your own private emails going back a decade or so…and I’ll promise you that I’ll find something to misrepresent.

        • Herodotus 4.1.1.2

          If we exclude the average person from such discussions then who can comment on Fin matters, Education or any other subject?
          Sometimes we get to review our outlook from a question from the “unclean” that makes us re-evaluate our position.
          Should Phil Goff beable to talk about monetary policy, John Key on Foreign policy as neither have the formal education to enable them to do so?
          What happens if climate change is not held not to be caused by CO2. Would that result in science being discredited to such an extent that we do not believe in any science?

          • Andrei 4.1.1.2.1

            If we exclude the average person from such discussions then who can comment on Fin matters, Education or any other subject?
            Sometimes we get to review our outlook from a question from the “unclean’ that makes us re-evaluate our position.

            Exactly and that goes to the very heart of this scandal – the unclean is defined to be anybody who disagrees with the inner circle regardless of qualifications.

            I am reminded of the Catholic church forcing Galileo to recant by all of this – These IPCC clowns did just that and their word was gospel, those working in the field toed the party line or else.

            And its all there in black and white for the world to see now.

            What happens if climate change is not held not to be caused by CO2. Would that result in science being discredited to such an extent that we do not believe in any science?

            Do you mean what happens if it is shown that CO2 is not harming the environment – something I believe.

            Well there will be a huge scandal and many will have eggs on their faces but the Scientific method will actually be validated as show that cheats eventually get exposed – its happened before probably not as high profile as this but it has.

            But this doesn’t invalidate the hypothesis per se, it makes it look somewhat shaky because a great deal of the proof relys on these gentlemen’s work.

            What worries me is that because so many of the rich and powerful have a stake in this that there may be a concerted attempt to make it all go away.

            • Galeandra 4.1.1.2.1.1

              Why not go and look at the reponse of the institution itself as a result of the furore?
              https://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRUupdate

              Believe what you like but accept that the majority anticipate a disaster which is already making. It’s deemed to be past time for action, and I’d be unsurprised if some countries don’t begin to take unilateral actions akin to declaring a State of Emergency in the near future.
              If you want to continue dancing on the heads of pins, try it on an ice floe or in the midst of one of the multitudinous drought zones. Don’t expect to be allowed to obstruct constructive discussion or debate about finding solutions. Quit nit picking.

            • Herodotus 4.1.1.2.1.2

              “that the majority anticipate a disaster which is already making”. Just like Y2K when all the experts were warning of the end of the world as we know it. There are quite a few computer geeks who made a fortune on the event that never happened.
              The Uk wants to go vege. Our 2 greatest earners Tourism will stop, and no one will want our meat/milk. Both will be dirty industries, so what is the alternative then?
              ps So for the Worlds benefit we h the developed world HAVE to cut our emmissions. But the developing world can increase theirs. As we do not want to inpinge on their ability have the gains of a developed country.

  5. Daveosaurus 5

    I’m not surprised that the intertubes are too young to remember when Bruce Beetham hopped into bed with Muldoon after the 1981 election, but surely at least someone remembers when Peters hopped into bed with Bolger in 1996?

    Those people who still think the Maori Party made a wise choice would be well advised to reflect upon the outcome of those two previous arrangements: Social Credit lost two thirds of their 1981 voters in 1984; and Peters First lost all but one of their parliamentary seats in 1999.

  6. prosaic 6

    Well I did see some quotes from the emails (sorry, can’t remember where) and they did absolutely nothing to threaten the consensus on climate change. What I haven’t seen is any analysis–or even a bad argument–purporting to show that these emails have any implications for any climate change arguments, whether for or against anthropogenic climate change. You are right, no substance.

  7. Dear Guest Poster,
    Your palpable indignation is spot on.
    Your eloquent fury is timely.
    This is the wrong government for this crucial and critical moment in time.
    This is so so wrong. And now Copenhagen.

  8. “Never in the history of New Zealand politics has so much taxpayers’ money been hurled into the chasm with such contempt for the poor citizens who will pay billions out of their own dwindling pockets”

    Ah yes, you must be talking about KiwiRail!

    word captcha = “explain” 😀

    • Bored 8.1

      You need to be awarded a brass handled shovel for that comment. The cost of the rail will be minute compared to the cost you and I as citizens and taxpayers will cough up as a result of this legislation. Enjoy the feeling of your filthy lucre slipping off to those you support, from your pocket to theirs. A little hint, they wont thank you for it either, just demand more which you in your myopia will gladly render.

      • What on earth makes you think I support the National Party, its legislation, or those who benefit from it? I’m dead agin it all.

        My only point was one of being amused by a labour party blog being outraged by government waste.

        Word Capture, gets even better! = “labels” 😀

        • snoozer 8.1.1.1

          which labour party blog?

          You might be libertarianz but the reality is it’s your side in power.

          • Quoth the Raven 8.1.1.1.1

            snoozer – You do talk some rubbish. You don’t know what party he supports. What you said is like saying to a green party or alliance supporter unhappy when Labour is in power “well the reality is it’s your side in power”.

        • Bored 8.1.1.2

          You assume Im Labour…hmmmm!!!!!! My award to you of the shovel is entirely based around rail versus ETS. Its a no brainer, you and I will get ripped big time by these clowns.

        • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1.3

          The only government waste as far as Kiwirail is concerned was its sale.

  9. outofbed 9

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0911/S00407.htm
    so Goff does an mini Orewa
    is that wise ?

    • snoozer 9.1

      outofbed. there are legitimate criticisms there and I don’t see any inflamatory language.

      Should Labour not be allowed to criticise things that are wrong if some Maori are benefiting from it?

  10. Anne 10

    Good speech but I wish Goff had left Hone Harawira out of it. He said his Harawira piece a week or two ago. Could he not have left it at that?

    • gingercrush 10.1

      And your opinion of Brash’s speech was?

      And don’t try and pretend Goff was doing anything else other than dogwhistling. There are numerous ways to attack National’s ETS and the deal set up with the Maori Party without coming out with the nonsense Goff did.

      • Galeandra 10.1.1

        Dog whistling? That’s nonsense. He’s quite explicit and makes valid criticisms as well as offering policy alternatives. I find his statements reasonable and worth discussion. You can disagree with them without imputing deviousness or manipulation to him, thoufgh that’s the soft line taken by some of the faces on the news channels today.

    • George D 10.2

      Don’t worry Anne, it’s only wrong when the National Party or ACT do it.

      Captcha: splitting

  11. Ron 11

    I think Goff was expressing the disappointment and anger that many of us feel at the Maori Party betraying New Zealanders. They are now clearly a brown Tory party and therefore fair game. Their agenda MUST be called into question if they are to continue to sleep with the enemy.

    Goff’s speech was completely different from the Orewa speech. Brash’s was a clear call to arms to NZ racist voters. In Goff’s speech he’s asking legitimate questions about the Tories’ (and that now includes the MP) agenda.

  12. Dreamcatcher 12

    Well Guest post (wise soul), are you a member of the ‘intergalactic federation’ by any chance?
    Because I’m sure we have met before.

    I too have a severe problem with the ungrateful human race. We ‘ask’ for respectable leaders and we get ‘empty hearts’ instead.
    But really do the people care- not really, as life is too short to actually ‘care’ about anyone- except yourself.

    Missing the whole point really.

    But as my heart widens I may be able to work some magic, for quite a few of us (and even an odd ghost), bring back a sense of ‘worthiness’ to the pointless pitiful that make up ‘many’.

    True ‘change’ comes from the heart!

  13. Anne 13

    Bang on Ron.
    Goff is “expressing the disappointment and anger many people (including me) feel about the Maori Party.” The suggestion that Goff is doing a Brash is crap! My only criticism was his re-iteration of the Harawira expletives which, in my view, is not the central issue. It is the appalling betrayal of the Maori Party against so many of their own people.

    Thank-you to Guest poster for saying what needed to be said – and doing it in so pungent a way.

  14. Dreamcatcher 14

    Pungent?

    An interesting terminology but not good enough.

    It is ROMANTIC and like a ‘moment’ in the clearing!

    That is the proper term.

    Crystal vision (is the only way) not side stepping the whole ‘point’.

  15. Anne 15

    pungent – sharp-pointed; (of reproof,satire etc) biting, caustic; mentally stimulating, piquant. Is that enough Dreamcatcher? Now go and check your medication. Something’s wrong.

    • Seroquel 15.1

      It has a dual meaning though doesn’t it?
      So you could possibly get away with using this ‘word’ in context, but with an afflicting meaning, to be cheeky?

  16. Nick C 16

    Make no mistake- this is a mini Orewa. Goff is playing to exactly the same sentiments which Brash played to in 2004. And his line is exactly the same as Don Brash’s: That government policy is unfairly favouring Maori.

    • Aklnut 16.1

      Nick that’s bullshit, Brashs speech was just racist crap chasing the redneck vote.

      “Let’s be clear. This deal will not benefit Maori as a whole.”

      “the average taxpayer, Maori and Pakeha, will be paying this bill and it will be huge.They and the rest of us know this will cost our children dearly.”

      “This shabby deal, agreed to in secret …….. was about buying Maori Party support for National’s shambles of an ETS.”

      Doesn’t sound anything like Brashs speech!

  17. Santi 17

    I despise socialism, hate the Labour Party and all it represents, but I do agree with your opinion that Key and the coward National and Maori parties have broken all records for lack of principles and political decency. They deserve to be voted out in 2011.

    NZ is fucked.

  18. Nicky Chapman 18

    People are feeling confused and powerless, just as they’ve started acknowledging climate change is real. We need to change that fast, now.

    I and some friends have a nationwide formal petition going to Parliament on the 7-8 December: ‘Kiwis for 350’.

    The petition urges Govt to set a meaningful target (350 ppm CO2e) – it’s about setting the direction and the principles (using science, working in partnership), not the actual methods which will be many, varied and highly creative!

    I think people are already tired of divisive and punitive approaches – and many do seem to get the point of this petition.

    It’s not about NZ being suicidally self-sacrificing, but it is about playing our part as hard and well as we can.

    In the last two weeks, we have about 1,000 signed petitions from Dunedin alone, and as it’s on websites and blogs, hope for many more. Go to http://www.350.org.nz or http://www.caritas.org.nz. Print it out, sign it, share it around, and get back to address on petition by 2 December.

    Nicky Chapman
    Organiser
    ‘Kiwis for 350’ petition

  19. rave 19

    We shouldnt be surprised. There is a global crisis. Bosses are losing their profits. They are forcing us to pay for them. The Government is a naked servant of finance capital. Key is their stooge. Some of us are awake, many more will wake up. We need a bikers revolt only 1000 times bigger.
    Santi NZ is not fucked, its’s capitalism thats fucked. We don’t want to go down with the shit.
    We need socialism that liberates us from all this shit. The socialism of the past didnt succeed because it was always surrounded isolated and undermined by capitalism and turned into Stalinist dictatorships.
    Now capitalism is burying us all with its global economic crisis and climate catastrophe. Its time to dig ourselves out of the hole.
    We have to do it collectively and democratically so that we take control of production and produce only what we need. What else is that but socialism?
    Rosa Luxemburg once said it came down to socialism or barbarism. That’s the alternative. I know what I want.

    • vto 19.1

      As often rave, you make some small senses

      • swingers club 19.1.1

        Yeah rave- where’s your specialty, besides all the small stuff, what can you offer (that differs)?

        • rave 19.1.1.1

          An argument for a start. What’s your offer?

          • swingers club 19.1.1.1.1

            Well the biker’s revolt won’t do anything, leather jackets and beards won’t make a difference politically. .
            We can’t get rid of tags can we? capitalism, socialism blah blah fucking blah, all will live on- everyone always wants to make money (big business lives), socialism (whatever that means) it doesn’t make a difference it will always exist.
            Dictatorships exist as a ‘common government’ anyway.
            Politics- is just human nature taxing human rights .a blatant paradox.
            Instead of clumping tags, a person’s ‘individuality’ should be ‘praised’ higher.
            But the government don’t want that (as then we know our ‘worth’), that is why we are lumped in ‘groups, lifestyles, tags, religions’.
            Revolutions don’t work, but individual ‘awareness’ works. Knowing who you are.
            We won’t need a ‘tag’ when we are literally ‘free’, will we?
            But that is probably a pipe dream- too ideal for human nature to comprehend.
            But I do like the idea of freedom, instead of a gun to my head, don’t you?
            As freedom, works best, to ensure better compatibilities within human relations.

        • vto 19.1.1.2

          yeah, what’s your offer?

          swinger

  20. tsmithfield 20

    Obviously Goff wants Labour to be in perpetual opposition.

    Offending a potential coalition partner, and the constituents it represents is only confirming to them that Labour can’t be trusted, and National was the best bet out of a bad bunch.

    • quenchino 20.1

      Last.Cab.Off.Rank.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 20.2

      Why would anyone want to be in a coalition with a party who have just sold your children’s future down the drain?

      Did you read the Maori Party report to the Select Committee on the ETS? It was pretty strong stuff condemning the folly of not capping the costs of CO2. Obviously however that was negotiable.

      Time to draw a line in the sand.

      Time to stop using the planet as a political hostage.

      • Aklnut 20.2.1

        You left out they sold their Mana, you know – the one they were supposed to be enhancing.

        Geez this bloody capcha is so appropriate, how does it keep doing that lol

        Captcha – desires

    • Ron 20.3

      I say again. The Maori Party are now obviously Tory party and therefore NOT a potential coalition party for Labour. In my opinion Goff should say to them – “you made the bed….”

  21. tsmithfield 21

    It is quite possible that the Greens might not make the 5% threshold next time. If that happens, the Maori Party might be the only cab on the rank for Labour.

    Advice to Goff: Don’t burn your bridges.

    • quenchino 21.1

      Nah if the election doesn’t swing left enough so that the Greens miss 5%, then Labour will be fracked too. Besides the MP with Turia in it will never go with Labour anyway.. so its one of those arguments that takes you nowhere.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 21.2

      If the Greens don’t win 5%, National will probably be able to govern alone. Interesting to see how they might interpret the Foreshore and Seabed Act under that circumstance.

      Advice to Goff: stick to your principles. No sleazy deals with the Maori Party

    • Ron 21.3

      Advice to Goff – stick by at least some of your principles and burn away.

  22. outofbed 22

    It is quite possible that the Greens might not make the 5% threshold next time

    Dream on

  23. outofbed 23

    Those whacky Greens eh
    Wanted a carbon Tax all those years ago Now practically everyone realizes that is the way to go even Act and Fed farmers
    The Greens have been banging on about our polluted rivers for years
    and today we have news that here we have some of the most polluted rivers in the world
    The Greens came up with the home insulation scheme, Labour fought against it
    and then claimed it, Nick smith dissed and now mentions it at every opportunity

    Perhaps we should listen to them more often

  24. ParkDrive 24

    I’m going to say look, I really don’t understand the actual benefit of the ETS. Irrespective of whether Labours appalling piece of legislation was rendered further worse by the Maori Party and National, the focus should be on just what is the benefit?

    All I’ve heard is a lot of we must reduce carbon emissions.

    Now, how do you calculate that? You can’t. One volcanic eruption (which Ruapehu is due for within the next 12 months) is the equivalent of well over a million cars carbon emissions over the course of a month.

    The truth is there is no way of actually being able to calculate carbon, and what is an optimal level. All we have are guestimates. Nothing concrete, simply as no records were ever kept of carbon levels pre 1980. Barely a generation!

    Over the last 30 years, human activity has rapidly felled forests, and as an apologetic afterthought forests have been replanted at a greater rate than ever before – whether it’s native bush or conifers or macrocarpa pines.
    Plantlife thrives on carbon dioxide. The less carbon there is in the air, the fewer plants that survive.

    Earth is a living breathing organism (The Gaia Hypothesis) It is a fallacy to even begin to think that while everything else on the planet is alive, the earth isn’t? Here’s a tip: Just because it doesn’t have a soul, doesn’t mean it’s not living.
    Gaia knows what is needed. The volcanic eruptions of the last few years, the change in weather patterns, it’s a simple act of re balancing

    The planets poles are shifting. Where the great Scott and forgotten Amundsen planted their flags on the south and north poles respectively, it’s interesting to note that the polar opposite have moved considerably. The north pole for example moved across Hudson Bay for years and is now in the Atlantic ocean.

    The Emissions Trading Scheme is a fraud on both houses. The entire world has been suckered into it, and no doubt, as always, someone stands to gain a great deal of money from windfarms and carbon neutral generators.

    I am nota denier of climate change. I see the evidence all too well. All I’m saying is that it is happening, and nothing that mankind can do will ever stop the process, nor will it slow it down. As a snowball turns into an avalanche, so has the changing of Gaia has begun.

    What is good to see is that we are slowly waking up and realising that the consumerist society we live in is no good. Why have we not banned Plasma Screen TVs yet if we’re serious? Those power suckers use three times as much as LCD. Why don’t we invest in LED TV’s? They use half as much as LCD.
    We’re a TV Nation. We are now. Have you seen how fat people are getting?

    Let’s show we’re deadly serious. Let’s cut our electricity usage. Ban all LCDs and Plasma TVs for sale. Only allow in LEDs. As soon as something better than LED comes along, ban LEDs.
    Ban single glazed windows, ban indoor gas heaters as they pump out carbon monoxide something chronic along with making the house damper than before.
    Introduce compulsory insulation in all rental properties. Floor, Roof and new builds must have wall insulation.

    Only then will we actually be doing something concrete and worthwhile. Yes it will seem very daddy knows best, but it’s nothing that governments haven’t been doing for the last hundred years.
    Ban them all, then offer subsidies for people to replace them if they wish to. Give them cash incentive to return the TV, the gas heater, include windows in the home insulation subsidy, renters will love their landlord making their houses warm, and lets not forget they now compromise the biggest voting block in the country (and the poorest due to power gouging – $1000 each p/a geesus!)

    • George D 24.1

      Why have we not banned Plasma Screen TVs yet if we’re serious? Those power suckers use three times as much as LCD. Why don’t we invest in LED TV’s? They use half as much as LCD.
      We’re a TV Nation. We are now. Have you seen how fat people are getting?

      Let’s show we’re deadly serious. Let’s cut our electricity usage. Ban all LCDs and Plasma TVs for sale. Only allow in LEDs. As soon as something better than LED comes along, ban LEDs.

      I ask myself the same question. We couldn’t even change the lightbulbs, or fit efficient showerheads.

      People will look back on this generation with anger and wonder.

  25. grumpy 25

    Interesting article by Tahu potiki in The Press this morning – unfortunately not yet on their website.

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  • Government receives interim report from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
    The Government has received an interim report from the Royal Commission into Historical Abuse in State Care and in the Care of Faith-Based Institutions. The terms of reference for the Royal Commission required a progress report on the inquiry‘s work to date to be delivered to the Government by the ...
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  • Minister of Foreign Affairs announces diplomatic appointments to Malaysia and Austria
    Foreign Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta has announced Pam Dunn as New Zealand’s next High Commissioner to Malaysia and Brian Hewson as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Austria and UN Permanent Representative, Vienna. Malaysia “New Zealand and Malaysia enjoy a warm bilateral relationship. We have had diplomatic relations for more than 60 years, ...
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  • Intention to appoint a Commission for Tauranga City Council
    Minister of Local Government, Hon Nanaia Mahuta, has confirmed the Tauranga City Council has been advised of her intention to appoint a Commission in response to significant governance problems among the Council’s elected representatives and the findings of an independent review. “I have been closely watching the conduct of the ...
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  • Pacific Health Scholarships 2021 about improving access to healthcare for Pacific communities
    Associate Minister of Health, Aupito William Sio is calling on any Pacific students studying health or disability-related courses to apply now for a Ministry of Health Pacific Health Scholarship. “These scholarships acknowledge the vital role Pacific people play in our health workforce. This was most visible through our Pacific workforce's ...
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  • Speech to Auckland Trade and Economic Policy School
    CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY   Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I want to recognise the hard work of the University of Auckland’s Public Policy Institute in putting on this event. Bringing together internationally recognised leaders and thinkers on trade and economic policy, with exporters, business leaders, diplomats, economists, ...
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  • NCEA Level 1 changes give students a broader foundation
    The Government is making changes to NCEA Level 1 to ensure it remains a strong, credible qualification that supports young people into employment and further education, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Last term, the Government initiated a wide-scale review of the National Certificates of Educational Achievement (NCEA), involving consultation ...
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  • Crown accounts reflect positive economic trend
    The Government’s books were again better than expected as the economy continued to recover post COVID lockdown, the Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Crown Accounts for the four months to the end of October were far more favourable than what was forecast in the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update ...
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  • Increase to supplier diversity through new procurement target for Maori Business
    Māori enterprises are in line for greater opportunities to do business with government agencies under an initiative to spread the benefits of the economic recovery.  The Ministers for Māori Development and Economic and Regional Development have announced a new target to encourage public service agencies to cast the net ...
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  • Climate emergency declaration will be matched with long-term action
    Today’s climate emergency declaration will be backed with ambitious plans to reduce emissions, the Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw today. “Our Government has put New Zealand at the forefront of climate action over the last three years. Declaring a climate emergency and backing this with long-term action to reduce ...
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  • Celebrating the success of Prime Minister’s Oranga Tamariki Award winners
    28 young achievers who have been in the care of Oranga Tamariki or involved with the youth justice system have received Oranga Tamariki Prime Minister Awards in recognition of their success and potential, Children’s Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. At the awards ceremony in Parliament, Kelvin Davis congratulated the rangatahi ...
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  • Public sector to be carbon neutral by 2025
    Public sector to be carbon neutral by 2025 Immediate focus on phasing out largest and most active coal boilers Government agencies required to purchase electric vehicles and reduce the size of their car fleet Green standard required for public sector buildings The Government has launched a major new initiative to ...
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  • Government fulfils election undertaking on new top tax rate
    The Government will today keep its election promise to put in place a new top tax rate of 39 per cent on income earned over $180,000. “This will only affect the top two per cent of earners. It is a balanced measure that is about sharing the load so everyone ...
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  • Sir Robert Martin re-elected to UN Committee
    New Zealand welcomes the news that Sir Robert Martin has been re-elected to the Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, says Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta and Minister for Disability Issues Carmel Sepuloni. “Sir Robert has been a lifetime advocate for persons with disabilities and his experience brings a ...
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  • New rules to protect Kiwis from unaffordable loans
    The Government is making sure all consumers who borrow money get the same protections, regardless of where they get their loans.   “Building on the work to crack down on loan sharks last year, we’re now making the rules clearer for all lenders to help protect borrowers from unaffordable loans” ...
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  • New visitor attraction to boost tourism
    The opening of the first major new tourism attraction since the global outbreak of COVID-19 closed borders to international travellers will provide a welcome boost to visitor numbers in our largest city, says Tourism Minister Stuart Nash. Mr Nash has this afternoon taken part in the official opening ceremony of ...
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  • Govt moves on drug checking to keep young New Zealanders safer this summer
    The Government will pass time limited legislation to give legal certainty to drug checking services, so they can carry out their work to keep New Zealanders safer this summer at festivals without fear of prosecution, Health Minister Andrew Little says. Next year the Government will develop and consult on regulations ...
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  • Public Service Commissioner reappointed
    Minister for the Public Service Chris Hipkins announced today that Public Service Commissioner Peter Hughes CNZM has been reappointed for three years. The Public Service Commissioner is appointed by the Governor-General on the recommendation of the Prime Minister. “Mr Hughes’ reappointment reflects the need for strong leadership and continuity to ...
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  • Pōwhiri marks the start of a critical year for APEC
    New Zealand kicked off its APEC host year today, with a pōwhiri taking place on Wellington’s waterfront with local iwi Te Atiawa, and a number of Government ministers welcoming representatives from the other 20 APEC economies. “APEC is a hugely important international event, and New Zealand is hosting amidst the ...
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  • Speech at APEC 21 Opening Pōwhiri
    9am, Tuesday 1 DecemberTe Whare Waka o Pōneke, Wellington Central He Mihi Kei aku rangatira no ngātapito e whā o te ao huri noa, tātou e huihui mai nei. Tēnā rā kōutou katoa. He tangiapakura ki ngā tini aituā kei waenganui i a tātou, ka tangi tonu te ngākau ki ...
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  • Government extends business debt relief to October 2021
    To assist with the ongoing economic recovery from COVID-19, rules allowing affected businesses to put their debt on hold have been extended by 10 months. “New Zealand’s economy is recovering better than we expected, but the impacts of the pandemic are far-reaching and some businesses need continued support to keep ...
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  • Bill introduced to support workers with 10 days sick leave
    The Government is delivering on a key commitment by introducing a Bill to Parliament to expand sick leave entitlements from five days to ten days a year, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Michael Wood announced today. “COVID-19 has shown how important it is to stay at home when people are ...
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  • Progress on pay equity for DHB staff
    Today’s initial agreement between DHBs and the PSA on pay equity for clerical and administration staff is an important step toward better, fairer pay for this crucial and largely female workforce, Health Minister Andrew Little says. If ratified, the agreement between the Public Service Association and the country’s 20 District ...
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  • Iconic Milford Track officially reopens
    One of New Zealand’s premier hikes and a cornerstone of the Te Anau community, the Milford Track has officially reopened, “From today, hikers booked on the popular Great Walk will be able to complete the walk end-to-end for the first time since early February,” Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. ...
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  • Support for farmers beefed up ahead of La Niña
    Further funding for feed support services and new animal welfare coordinators will help farmers who continue to feel the effects of an extended drought, says Rural Communities Minister Damien O’Connor. “In March this year, I classified the drought in the North Island, parts of the South Island and the Chathams ...
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  • Next steps for Christchurch Hospital campus redevelopment
    Canterbury DHB will be better placed to respond to future demand for services and continue to deliver high quality care, with the next stage of the campus redevelopment programme confirmed, Health Minister Andrew Little says. The Government has approved $154 million in funding for the construction of a third tower ...
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  • Five Power Defence Arrangements Defence Ministers’ Joint Statement
    The Defence Ministers from Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore and United Kingdom reaffirmed their nations’ continued commitment to the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA), and commended the achievements over the past 49 years as the FPDA moves towards its 50th Anniversary in 2021.  The Ministers recognised the FPDA’s significant role ...
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  • Jobs for Nature funding protects health of Hawke’s Bay waterways
    A joint Government and Hawke’s Bay Regional Council project will invest $4.2 million to protect local waterways, enhance biodiversity and employ local people, Environment Minister David Parker announced today.   Over two years, the Hāpara Takatū Jobs for Nature project will fence 195km of private land to exclude stock from vulnerable ...
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  • New Year border exception for seasonal workers in the horticulture and wine industries
    2000 additional RSE workers to enter New Zealand early next year employers must pay these workers at least $22.10 an hour employers will cover costs of managed isolation for the RSE workers RSE workers will be paid the equivalent of 30 hours work a week while in isolation From January ...
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  • Government increases support for New Zealanders to work in seasonal jobs
    The Government is offering further financial support for unemployed New Zealanders to take on seasonal work. These new incentives include: Up to $200 per week for accommodation costs $1000 incentive payment for workers who complete jobs of six weeks or longer increasing wet weather payments when people can’t work to ...
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  • Government receives Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the Terrorist Attack on Christchurch Mos...
    Minister for Internal Affairs Jan Tinetti has today received the Royal Commission of Inquiry report into the Terrorist Attack on Christchurch Mosques, and will table it in Parliament on Tuesday December 8. “I know this will have been a challenging process for whānau, survivors and witnesses of the terrorist attack ...
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  • New Zealand Government to declare a climate emergency
    The Government will declare a climate emergency next week, Climate Change Minister James Shaw said today.                                       “We are in the midst of a climate crisis that will impact on nearly every ...
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  • Call for urgent action on Pacific conservation
    A declaration on the urgency of the global biodiversity crisis and the need for immediate, transformative action in the Pacific was agreed at a pan-Pacific conference today. The 10th Pacific Islands Conference on Nature Conservation and Protected Areas is taking place this week across the Pacific.  Minister of Conservation Kiritapu ...
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  • Speech from the throne
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  • Keynote address to Chartered Accountants Australia and New Zealand conference
    Speech to the CAANZ conference - November 19, 2020 Thank you, Greg, (Greg Haddon, MC) for the welcome. I’d like to acknowledge John Cuthbertson from CAANZ, the Commissioner of Inland Revenue Naomi Ferguson, former fellow MP and former Minister of Revenue, Peter Dunne, other guest speakers and CAANZ members. I ...
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  • Expert independent advisory group appointed to strengthen the future of Māori broadcasting
    A panel of seven experts are adding their support to help shape the future of Māori broadcasting, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson has announced today. “Today I will meet with some of the most experienced Māori broadcasters, commentators and practitioners in the field. They have practical insights on the ...
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  • Government to review housing settings
    New Zealand’s stronger-than-expected economic performance has flowed through to housing demand, so the Government will review housing settings to improve access to the market, the Finance Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “Our focus is on improving access to the housing market for first home buyers and ensuring house price growth ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Crown accounts reflect Govt’s careful economic management
    The better-than-expected Crown accounts released today show the Government’s careful management of the COVID-19 health crisis was the right approach to support the economy. As expected, the Crown accounts for the year to June 2020 show the operating balance before gains and losses, or OBEGAL, was in deficit. However that ...
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  • Community launch marks next step in addressing racism in education
    The launch of Te Hurihanganui in Porirua today is another important milestone in the work needed to address racism in the education system and improve outcomes for Māori learners and their whānau, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis says. Budget 2019 included $42 million over three years to put Te Hurihanganui ...
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  • Government to consider recommendations on DNA use in criminal investigations
    The Minister of Justice has received the Law Commission’s recommending changes to the law governing the way DNA is used in criminal investigations. The report, called The Use of DNA in Criminal Investigations – Te Whahamahi I te Ira Tangata I ngā Mātai Taihara, recommends new legislation to address how ...
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